Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #33

[always 1]

Klaasend, I understand we are trying to save bandwith by not being off topic.  I was wondering if each post contains so many sentances that can be used????  In other words, would we save bandwith if we would ask all of our questions within one post?????? 

It has NOTHING to do with bandwidth.  It has to do with people trying to catch up in a thread and having to go through a bunch of posts about avatars and other off topic.

Ok, thank you both for clearing that up for me!!!!!

[BeachGirl4]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

[klaasend]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

Just curious, did the audio change your opinion of George?  How do you feel about him now?

[KiahJ]

Good Morning, Monkeys...

Did I see somewhere at the end of the last thread that the FBI results are back?
I may have read it wrong b/c I was trying to race through all of the posts that I missed, but someone said something about Geraldo and the Body Farm, then there was a reply that the FBI has the DNA results...

Has that been confirmed?

I think you saw my response.  Geraldo has said that the evidence results from the body farm couldn't for sure confirm it was Caylee.  All I was saying is the FBI Lab had other evidence from the trunk they were testing.  Yes, I believe all the testing is back including FBI but I don't think it's confirmed by LE.

ah, gotcha.  Thanks Klaas

[nikkibnurse]

annie looks like she has put on a few..I heard that pot makes you hungry....

[always 1]

I just saw where they found the corpses of two children frozen in a freezer in Maryland.  They had been frozen since February.  Please tell me the freezer in George's car has been cleared????

[Steel Monkey]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

Just curious, did the audio change your opinion of George?  How do you feel about him now?

Can someone PLEASE direct me to that audio link - other than CF News 13?  That link does not work for me!

TIA

[Lisa39]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

I am getting ready to I just finished Cindys second one and I say wowo as well!!!!

[Sea Searcher]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-092908,0,830360.story

Casey Anthony to meet with home-confinement officer

Robyn Shelton and Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writers
11:35 AM EDT, September 29, 2008

Casey Anthony is scheduled to meet with her home-confinement case manager at the Orange County Jail this afternoon. She must be back at her house by 4 p.m.

This is a regular meeting with her case manager who will set up Anthony's schedule to leave home this week.

Can anyone tell me...if she goes for her appointment at say 12:30 and it lasts for an hour, makes it 1:30...does she have to go directly home ?? I've always thought this reads like a curfew ...how would they know where she went...no GPS if I understand correctly, although the news folks probably follow her everywhere.

In the article, it says "protesters across the street" are they limited to that area now ?

TIA

and Good Afternoon All !     waiting for the "BIG TRUTH" tonight..I dunno, it never seems to be what it's played up to..haven't decided on JG or RG yet..

[goodnmad]

What is this "Big Truth"? Something Padilla said? Sigh, seems like we're always waiting and somehow never surprised by what comes out. I hope she's arrested very soon.

[BeachGirl4]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

Just curious, did the audio change your opinion of George?  How do you feel about him now?

I think he started out wanting to be honest about the what he knew.  He states in the interview that he DOES NOT like that smell in the car.  He knew what that smell was...period.

Now...LIAR

Very Sad...seemed to be a decent guy in the interview. 

What do you think?

[Tamikosmom]

Leonard Padilla was supposed to come out with blockbuster info last night (I thought).  I haven't seen that.  Has it come out yet?

The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio - Sunday, September 28, 2008 - Guests Include Dr. Clint Van Zandt, Kim Palmer and Leonard Padilla

September 28, 2008

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/09/28/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-sunday-september-28-2008-guests-include-dr-clint-van-zandt-and-kim-palmer/

[cubbeegirl]

Hahaha! I have always loved Clint VanZandt....

"THE NUT DOESN"T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE!!!"

[BeachGirl4]

I just listened to the Audio of George..Wow just Wow

Just curious, did the audio change your opinion of George?  How do you feel about him now?

Can someone PLEASE direct me to that audio link - other than CF News 13?  That link does not work for me!

TIA

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/27/audio_video_recordings_released_by_law_enforcement.html

[Sea Searcher]

Good Morning, Monkeys...

Did I see somewhere at the end of the last thread that the FBI results are back?
I may have read it wrong b/c I was trying to race through all of the posts that I missed, but someone said something about Geraldo and the Body Farm, then there was a reply that the FBI has the DNA results...

Has that been confirmed?

I think you saw my response.  Geraldo has said that the evidence results from the body farm couldn't for sure confirm it was Caylee.  All I was saying is the FBI Lab had other evidence from the trunk they were testing.  Yes, I believe all the testing is back including FBI but I don't think it's confirmed by LE.

I have no time for Geraldo...I wouldn't take his word for what day it is..They should have locked him in Al Capone's vault once he got it open 

[sharon]

Question:

Is there such a thing as a "typical narcissist"? Is narcissism a "pure" mental disorder or a "cocktail" of a few? Is there a typical way in which narcissists react to life crises? Is it true that they are prone to suicide?

Answer:

I have to dispel a few hidden assumptions in the study of narcissism. The first is that there is such thing as a typical narcissist. One must always specify whether one is referring to a cerebral narcissist or to a somatic one.

A cerebral narcissist uses his intelligence to obtain Narcissistic Supply. A somatic narcissist uses his body, his looks and his sexuality to do likewise. Inevitably, each type is likely to react very differently to a narcissistic injury brought about by an disfiguring accident, for instance.

Somatic narcissists are a variation upon HPD (the Histrionic Personality Disorder). They are seductive, provocative and obsessive-compulsive when it comes to their bodies, their sexual activities and their health (they are likely to be hypochondriacs as well).

I believe that there is a continuum between families of mental health disorders. I believe that HPD (the Histrionic Personality Disorder) is actually NPD where the Narcissistic Supply is sex or physique. I think that BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) is a form of NPD with emphasis on abandonment issues. I think that AsPD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) is NPD with deficient impulse control. I think that pathological narcissism underlies all these – wrongly distinguished – disorders. This is why my book is titled NARCISSISM Revisited and not NPD. But, while I dispute the existence of a typical narcissist, I do accept that certain behavioural and character traits are common to all narcissists.

Pathological lying seems to be such a trait. Even the DSM defines NPD with words such as "fantasy", "grandiose" and "exploit", which imply the usage of half-truths, inaccuracies and lies on a regular basis. Kernberg and others coined the term False Self not in vain.

Narcissists are not gregarious. Actually, narcissists and schizoids have a lot in common (for more on this, see FAQ67).

Of course narcissists love to have an audience. But they love an audience only because and as long as it provides them with Narcissistic Supply. Otherwise, they are not interested in human beings (they lack empathy which makes other humans much less fascinating than they are to empathic people).

Narcissists are terrified of introspection. I am not referring to intellectualisation or rationalisation or simple application of their intelligence – this would not constitute introspection. Proper introspection must include an emotional element, an insight and the ability to emotionally integrate the insight so that it affects behaviour. Some people are narcissists and they KNOW it (cognitively). They even think about it from time to time – is this introspection? Not really. Narcissists do engage in real introspection following a life crisis, though. They attend therapy at such time.

So, while there are no "typical" narcissists – there are traits and behaviour patterns typical to all narcissists.

The second "myth" is that narcissism is a pure phenomenon that can be dealt with experimentally. This is not the case. Actually, due to the fuzziness of the whole field, diagnosticians are both forced AND encouraged to render multiple diagnoses ("co-morbidity"). NPD usually appears in tandem with some other Cluster B disorder (such as AsPD, HPD or, most often, BPD).

Regarding the third myth (that narcissists are prone to suicide, especially after a life crisis involving a narcissistic injury):

Narcissists VERY rarely commit suicide. They have suicidal ideation and reactive psychoses under severe stress – but to commit suicide runs against the grain of narcissism. This is more of a BPD trait. The differential diagnosis of NPD from BPD rests on the absence of attempted suicide and self-mutilation in NPD.

In response to a life crisis (divorce, disgrace, imprisonment, accident and severe narcissistic injuries) the narcissist is likely to adopt either of two reactions:

   1.

      He finally refers himself to therapy, realising that something is dangerously wrong with him. Statistics show that talk therapies are rather ineffective when it comes to narcissists. Soon enough, the therapist is bored, fed up or actively repelled by the grandiose fantasies and open contempt of the narcissist. The therapeutic alliance crumbles and the narcissist emerges "triumphant" having sucked the therapist's energy dry.

   2.

      He frantically gropes for alternative Sources of Narcissistic Supply. Narcissists are very creative. If all fails, they exhibitionistically make use of their own misery. Or they lie, create a fantasy, invent stories, harp on other people's emotions, forge a medical condition, pull a stunt, fall in ideal love with the chief nurse, make a provocative move or a crime… The narcissist is bound to come up with a surprising angle.

Experience shows that most narcissists go through (1) and then through (2).

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The exposure of the False Self for what it is – false – is a major narcissistic injury. The narcissist is likely to react with severe self-deprecation and self-flagellation even to the point of suicidal ideation. This – on the inside. On the outside, he is likely to react aggressively. This is his way of channelling his life-threatening aggression.

Rather than endure its assault and its frightening outcomes – he redirects the aggression, transforms it and hurls it at others.

What form his aggression might assume is nigh impossible to predict without knowing the narcissist in question intimately. It could be anything from cynical humour, through brutal honesty, verbal abuse, passive aggressive behaviours (frustrating others) and down to actual physical violence.

These three debunked myths demonstrate the untenability of the proposition that narcissism is an isolated mental health phenomenon.

Interesting.

Thanks bb 

[always 1]

I bet Casey faked the seisure so she could get some drugs.  Some of the seisure medication is like Xanax.  Have they ever released Caylee's medical records???  I am surprised she did not try to claim ADD so she could get those meds.  Many students sell their ADD medicine to others to get high.

[BeachGirl4]

Sorry thats the only link I can find right now. 

[Sea Searcher]

What is this "Big Truth"? Something Padilla said? Sigh, seems like we're always waiting and somehow never surprised by what comes out. I hope she's arrested very soon.

No...not LP...RG supposedly is going to shed the light of truth on this case tonight on NG's show..it was on his myspace, someone here has the link ???

[sharon]

Any documents or testimony by Annie is notibily missing:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

And Sean Daly

Unless I missed it

Sean's is there.

He tells LE about Annie and calls her in front of LE. Annie tells Sean that LE had been at her parents home, but had not spoken with her yet.

NOTHING from Annie.