Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[yapperz1]

IBE was wanting to see the original pic of the guy in the cammo shirt. Here is the one I have.

[Anna]

Yappers,
Well, he's not tall, not blond and doesn't appear to have blue eyes, either!  Other than that, maybe the description fits.  

And this one looks a bit better than Leon von Loon with whom Julia and scubajap also tried to make a connection as well.  Yes, she photoshopped Darlene in the car with him, too, and in various photos she posted here.

83 hours the MB kids were in Aruba counting sleeping time.  They must be the most energetic, hyperactive kids anywhere to have done all they are said to have done.

And every move they made was something shocking, no normal activity at all and yet where are the photos and videos of this wild behavior?  There aren't any because it didn't happen.  These are not kids who had never been anywhere or done anything in their lives and this was their only chance ever to have any fun, either.  

Just Aruban spin to trash all of them and most especially Natalee and Beth.  If Beth could lead the whole investigation astray, it wasn't much to start with.  Just making such a claim in this country would likely get a cop canned if he can't handle grieving parents any better than that.  Total lack of professionalism and total lack of anything close to an investigation.

JMO.

[bleachedblack]

CBB, Klaas & All if you look at the skirt of Lee's dress in this pic the pattern is also different than the pattern of her shirt.

Oh Hiya Monkeys & Happy Easter To All[/quote]

Happy Easter Monkeys. Caught  your post Yapperz1 and just have to mention, I don't see Lee's skirt in this bar pic. The shirt comes down maybe 3-4" below the waist as it appears to do in the beach pic. Am I looking at it wrong?

[bleachedblack]

IBE was wanting to see the original pic of the guy in the cammo shirt. Here is the one I have.

Gee doesn't that look like Anita dancing at C+C"s (down fron and center in photo-behind the hand slightly)?      

[carpe noctem]

Did ya catch this one?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/photochoppeNAT.png

[carpe noctem]

There's just no way.

The shirt isn't right.

the strap

boob size

gravity doesn't appear to be affecting the shirt like it should

[carpe noctem]

ITT Industries, System Division (ITT), Colorado Springs, Colo., is being awarded a $7,876,673 firm-fixed-price with cost-reimbursable line items contract. This contract covers performing all support operations necessary to perform Forward Operating Location – Base Operating Support (FOL-BOS) services in support of the United States Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) aerial counterdrug surveillance mission at Reina Beatrix IAP Aruba (Optional FOL Site), HATO IAP Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, and Elroy Alfarao IAP Manta, Ecuador, US surveillance aircraft supporting USSOUTHCOM, Department of Defense (DoD), US State Department, and multi-counterdrug agencies currently operate from the FOLs to assure continued counterdrug surveillance in the Caribbean and Central and South American theaters. The Air Force Chief of Staff, Air Combat Command Commander, and Twelfth Air Force Commander determined that FOL support functions shall be contracted to the maximum extent possible. At this time, total funds have been obligated. This work will be complete September 2007. Headquarters Air Combat Command Acquisition Management and Integration Center, Langley Air Force Base, Va., is the contracting activity (FA4890-07-C-0007).

In case everyone was busy deciphering the magnificent work of the monkeys and photoshopped picture....the above information (furnished by Carpe) is part of the reason our FBI and Department of State has said or done very little about this case.  Bigger fish to fry.

Bingo!

I feel 1/2 and 1/2 about it. I understand that the country
needs protecting...

... but somehow I just know in my bones if it was a military gen.

or a political figure that this had happened to, somebody would have

dropped the hammer OVERNIGHT. What the Holloways have gone through

in the last 2 yrs sucks. (and that's the clean version)    

[Anna]

HAPPY EASTER ALL!

I'll be back late tonight!

 

shhhh!  I think she had a date with the Easter Bunny...don't tell it's a secret.

But can she do that?  Just leave us like this for that long?  What if we need her?  No phone number for emergencies or anything!      

[Sleuth]

HAPPY EASTER/ HAPPY PASSOVER EVERYONE.  


I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this photoshopped picture.  Doesn't anyone here remember very long discussions about this same photo eons ago - like summer/fall of 2005 - consensus was that it was fake.  There wasn't any discussion that I'm aware of in regards to Lee or the little head, but definitely regarding Natalee's top being altered.  I'm not certain it was in this forum or via chat, but there was definitely a lot of discussion.

Angie and Elaine - no problem regarding the little head.  Different opinions are good as it makes us all look harder.

Angie - the next time I see you on here I will repost the basin thing that you asked about.  

Klaasend - the only photo that I saw of Natalee at CnC on MSM was the one of the group dancing on the stage.  Never the fake one.

[Sleuth]

HAPPY EASTER/ HAPPY PASSOVER EVERYONE.  


I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this photoshopped picture.  Doesn't anyone here remember very long discussions about this same photo eons ago - like summer/fall of 2005 - consensus was that it was fake.  There wasn't any discussion that I'm aware of in regards to Lee or the little head, but definitely regarding Natalee's top being altered.  I'm not certain it was in this forum or via chat, but there was definitely a lot of discussion.

Angie and Elaine - no problem regarding the little head.  Different opinions are good as it makes us all look harder.

Angie - the next time I see you on here I will repost the basin thing that you asked about.  

Klaasend - the only photo that I saw of Natalee at CnC on MSM was the one of the group dancing on the stage.  Never the fake one.

Sorry, correction - summer/fall of 2006.

[justinsmama]

MONKEYS ROCK!

[yapperz1]

BB I may be looking at it wrong  
It looks to me like whoever put Lee in the pic forgot she had on a white skirt in the beach pic. It looks like they tried to make her top into a dress?
Look to the right of the beer bottle about the height of the table. There is a different pattern of colors than her "top".

Sleuth I don't remember any talk of this pic being fake b4. Not saying it didn't happen just that I don't remember it.

I do not suffer from selective CRS like some folks we know of that ;ive on a certain rock.

[yapperz1]

BB I may be looking at it wrong  
It looks to me like whoever put Lee in the pic forgot she had on a white skirt in the beach pic. It looks like they tried to make her top into a dress?
Look to the right of the beer bottle about the height of the table. There is a different pattern of colors than her "top".

Sleuth I don't remember any talk of this pic being fake b4. Not saying it didn't happen just that I don't remember it.

I do not suffer from selective CRS like some folks we know of that live on a certain rock.

(self edit due to suffering from angieitis)  

[AZSunny]

CBB, Klaas & All if you look at the skirt of Lee's dress in this pic the pattern is also different than the pattern of her shirt.

Oh Hiya Monkeys & Happy Easter To All[/quote]

I think it is still her top...look at how long her arm is from her shoulder to her elbow. really a stretched out picture.

[Cat]

Carpe,I agree with you on about every thing.It is a shame,but I know we have people in the area.Yap,it is good to see you post,again.Happy easter to all,He has risen,a fact we all can know.When you are running and afraid,and suddendly stand up to be killed,brutaly and you don't care,it is because you have seen a miracle.cat

[bleachedblack]

BB I may be looking at it wrong  
It looks to me like whoever put Lee in the pic forgot she had on a white skirt in the beach pic. It looks like they tried to make her top into a dress?
Look to the right of the beer bottle about the height of the table. There is a different pattern of colors than her "top".

Sleuth I don't remember any talk of this pic being fake b4. Not saying it didn't happen just that I don't remember it.

I do not suffer from selective CRS like some folks we know of that ;ive on a certain rock.

In the beach pic Lee has on a light denim color skirt Yap.

[Anna]

I don't think that's Lee.  Or Natalee.  Not Lee's hair, for sure.  But the outfits are very similar but neither exact.

Don't recall any discussion of the photo being fake but could have missed it.  I was online when it was first posted at RWV and always try to read about it.  We didn't question at the time for it never occurred to anybody that the fix was already in and people would be altering photos.

I would like to know what Dan has to say about this.  He always claimed his sources were so superior to those of the rest of us so how did this happen?  I doubt he knew.

Sleuth, are the the same one posting on that thread at RWV, too?  Have you looked closely at the other photos?  If this is not Natalee, they could have been taken at any time prior to their being sent to RWV.  Now I wonder what else is fake.

Guess we were too trusting.  

[BIGORANGECRUSH]

BOC on a flyby! Happy Easter Monks!

[Anna]

Was Lee in the casino?  If so, what was she wearing there?  Had she changed from the beach?

[yapperz1]

[quote="bleachedblack]

In the beach pic Lee has on a light denim color skirt Yap.[/quote]

Sorry I have a pic where her skirt looks white. No Matter we all know she had on a topn n skirt not a dress.