Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11

[trimmonthelake]

http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/2011/10/29/dr-lillian-glass-weighs-in-on-the-baby-lisa-case/
Dr. Lillian Glass Weighs In On the Baby Lisa Case
October 29th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2011/11/11/missing-baby-lisa-turns-one-year-old-parents-celebrate-birthday-private
Small memorial marks Baby Lisa’s birthday
By Jim Spellman, November 11, 2011
NEED TO KNOW

    Police have been searching for Lisa Irwin since October 4
    Balloon release planned to mark baby’s first birthday

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark-her-first-birthday
Family of missing KC baby mark her first birthday
Posted: 11/11/2011
Last Updated: 41 minutes ago
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The family of a missing Kansas City baby held a private gathering Friday evening to mark her first birthday.

Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark-her-first-birthday#ixzz1dRjMbU1i

[trimmonthelake]

A balloon release does not make up for the fact that the entire family has gone out of their way to avoid helping find Lisa..they are fooling nobody with this fake, public act.

Is it possible Jersey is a witness, not a suspect?

I have posted this before and agree to what you propose. Whether or not Jersey is involved, nothing happened in that neighborhood that he doesn't know about and who is involved, when things went down, everything. A man on foot can cover a lot of ground.

[yuknomenot]

A balloon release does not make up for the fact that the entire family has gone out of their way to avoid helping find Lisa..they are fooling nobody with this fake, public act.

Is it possible Jersey is a witness, not a suspect?

I have posted this before and agree to what you propose. Whether or not Jersey is involved, nothing happened in that neighborhood that he doesn't know about and who is involved, when things went down, everything. A man on foot can cover a lot of ground.

My apologies, I try to read every post but I missed your's.  If that story about him turning off the neighbors water around 11 is true, the timing would be about right.  IF he is a witness would anyone believe him though.

[Jazzy]

Personally,I would have taken the town apart by now,walked barefoot on glass and through fire if I thought it would bring my child home.

I agree there wouldnt be a stone unturned or an inch of ground searched if that was my baby out there missing. I sure as he77 wouldnt lawyer up, or refuse to help LE or FEDS either I would be up their butts so far they would be begging me to take a break from looking. And I sure as crap wouldnt of been drinking and ignoring my sick baby prior to her going missing.
I'm wondering if baby Lisa wasn't sold into the black market?

[TnMuse]

He re-posted it again.....

http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2011/11/baby-lisa-case-cell-phone-mystery.html

November 11, 2011
The Baby Lisa Case: The Cell Phone Mystery
By
Ron Rugen, Kansas City Private Investigator

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Megan told me that when her phone was used that night, she got it back with the incoming/outgoing call logs deleted.  Because she was using a pay-as-you-go Virgin Mobile cell phone, there are no telephone company records and this phone has no SIMM card.   She says she believes that authorities were going to “ghost” her telephone to recover the information.  Megan says authorities still have her phone and a GPS she was advertising for sale on Craig’s List.

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BBM   Mr. PI states this as fact.  If he believes this, sure hope he doesn't use one for confidential discussions with his clients.  You can access your call records on their website, and of course they have to keep records to validate the minutes used.

Does anyone know if "Dane" and "Shane" know each other?

[cw618]

Megan told me that when her phone was used that night, she got it back with the incoming/outgoing call logs deleted.  Because she was using a pay-as-you-go Virgin Mobile cell phone, there are no telephone company records and this phone has no SIMM card.    She says she believes that authorities were going to “ghost” her telephone to recover the information.  Megan says authorities still have her phone and a GPS she was advertising for sale on Craig’s List.
http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2011/11/baby-lisa-case-cell-phone-mystery.html

BBM
i found this....

Data privacy
 
Virgin Mobile keeps text messages for three months and keeps a list of who called who and at what time for two to three months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mobile_USA
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im starting to hate the dam phone situation,maybe just maybe,lisa disappearance,and the stolen phones,were a coincidence,as in both events just happened the same nite,and one has nothing to do with the other maybe thats why its so hard to get a lead to lisa,2 separate crimes

[fatcatlurker]

Megan told me that when her phone was used that night, she got it back with the incoming/outgoing call logs deleted.  Because she was using a pay-as-you-go Virgin Mobile cell phone, there are no telephone company records and this phone has no SIMM card.    She says she believes that authorities were going to “ghost” her telephone to recover the information.  Megan says authorities still have her phone and a GPS she was advertising for sale on Craig’s List.
http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2011/11/baby-lisa-case-cell-phone-mystery.html

BBM
i found this....

Data privacy
 
Virgin Mobile keeps text messages for three months and keeps a list of who called who and at what time for two to three months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mobile_USA
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im starting to hate the dam phone situation,maybe just maybe,lisa disappearance,and the stolen phones,were a coincidence,as in both events just happened the same nite,and one has nothing to do with the other maybe thats why its so hard to get a lead to lisa,2 separate crimes

Or one wanted the phones and the other Lisa?  More than one perp?  Or someone walked in and took the phones and D and J are guilty of Lisa? 

I think it walked thru the front door regardless.  Perp maybe tried the window than the door?

[fatcatlurker]

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260417/baby-lisas-attorney-explains-parents.html#ixzz1dRqvZfZI

Attorney for Lisa Irwin’s parents explains their cooperation situation with police

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“At this point there’s nothing more to be said,” said Picerno, who joined the case two weeks ago.

He said the idea that the parents have not been cooperative “is just fantasy.”

Bradley and Irwin have been interviewed separately twice without attorneys, he said.

The third time they were interviewed, with an attorney present, “it got nasty,” according to Picerno.

The attorney called off those interviews, he said.

“He had enough, and that’s enough for us,” Picerno said.

That attorney, Sean O’Brien, confirmed Friday that he had stopped those interviews because of the “accusatory” nature of police questioning.

“It was clear to me it was not going to produce any relevant information,” O’Brien said.

O’Brien said that Bradley and Irwin consented to that interview even though previous interviews also had involved accusatory tactics.

“They still wanted to give information because they know the police are the best hope of finding their baby,” he said.

Picerno said he believes that police are “absolutely” focusing too much on the parents, and he said his clients have indicated that police are treating them like suspects.

“They told them as much, Debbie in particular,” he said.

But a Kansas City police spokeswoman on Friday disputed that anyone had been singled out as a suspect.

“We have no suspects in this case,” said Police Sgt. Stacey Graves.

Picerno said Friday that if police have questions they want answered, the questions can be relayed to him or co-counsel Joe Tacopina of New York, and they will get answers.

“What we’re not going to do is let our clients be subjected to interrogation techniques,” Picerno said.

Police conducted another search of a wooded area in the Northland on Friday, Graves said. The search near Vivion Road and Interstate 35 was not prompted by a specific tip but was part of the ongoing effort to expand the search area. It did not yield any new information, she said.

Also on Friday, Picerno spoke about Thursday night’s interviews that an expert conducted with Lisa’s two older half brothers. Picerno said an FBI agent told him the interviews “went well” but yielded “no new developments.”

Picerno said he won’t have access to videos of the interviews unless charges are filed.

The whole ordeal has been traumatic for the two boys, who are 8 and 5, Picerno said. He described meeting them for the first time.

“Are you going to help us find Lisa?” he said the older boy asked him.

And finding Lisa is the family’s primary focus, he said.

The team representing the family is conducting an independent investigation of Lisa’s disappearance, but Picerno declined to discuss specifics. He said anything the team uncovers will be relayed to police.
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[fatcatlurker]

sorry, I didn't realize I took so much of the article.

[StarMonkey]

Very odd IF the last data from DB phone was before 4 when JI got home.

[cartfly]

Megan told me that when her phone was used that night, she got it back with the incoming/outgoing call logs deleted.  Because she was using a pay-as-you-go Virgin Mobile cell phone, there are no telephone company records and this phone has no SIMM card.    She says she believes that authorities were going to “ghost” her telephone to recover the information.  Megan says authorities still have her phone and a GPS she was advertising for sale on Craig’s List.
http://kansascitypi.blogspot.com/2011/11/baby-lisa-case-cell-phone-mystery.html

BBM
i found this....

Data privacy
 
Virgin Mobile keeps text messages for three months and keeps a list of who called who and at what time for two to three months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mobile_USA
---------------
im starting to hate the dam phone situation,maybe just maybe,lisa disappearance,and the stolen phones,were a coincidence,as in both events just happened the same nite,and one has nothing to do with the other maybe thats why its so hard to get a lead to lisa,2 separate crimes

Or one wanted the phones and the other Lisa?  More than one perp?  Or someone walked in and took the phones and D and J are guilty of Lisa? 

I think it walked thru the front door regardless.  Perp maybe tried the window than the door?

Thanks for the updates Monkeys
To me there is no way someone went through that window with a baby unless there was someone to hand the baby off to. All of these characters involvement have me "confuzzled"

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/11/11/lisa-irwin-case-the-cell-phone-records/#more-8424
Lisa Irwin case: The cell phone records
Posted on November 11, 2011 by Valhall

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16017789/baby-lisas-first-birthday-and-still-few-clues
New search on baby Lisa's first birthday
Posted: Nov 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST Updated: Nov 12, 2011 12:10 AM CST

Video at link.
KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

Lisa Irwin turned 1 year old Friday as the Kansas City Police Department searched a Northland area for the missing baby.

KCPD spokesman Capt. Steve Young said an area near the Stroud's chicken restaurant was searched again.

"Just the next idea, nothing more," Young said in email to KCTV5.

This came the day after Lisa's two older, half-brothers met with a trained child specialist with the FBI.
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Kansas City police have asked for the parents to submit to separate interviews in which tough questions will be asked. Young reiterated Friday that police are not asking for Bradley and Irwin's attorneys to be excluded from the interviews, but that the couple not be interviewed together.

Picerno outlined the hours that Bradley and Irwin submitted to interviews in the first days that their daughter went missing. He said neither he nor Tacopina will allow Irwin and Bradley to submit to hostile, accusatory interrogation techniques by authorities.

Altogether, they have been interrogated more than 30 hours on five occasions, he said.
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Stanton said the parents continue to cooperate with investigators. He said he purposefully has said few words to Lisa's brothers other than pleasantries. He said it is important that neither he nor the parents be seen as coaching the boys or tampering with the investigation.

"I did not want to get in the way of the investigation," he said. "Everybody has been screaming why weren't the boys interviewed and now they've been interviewed and now they will say they were coached, no matter what the findings."

Stanton also discussed those close to the case other than the parents who could offer interesting insights.

Police have questioned John "Jersey" Tanko, a handyman who worked in the area, and James Brando, who lived next door to baby Lisa and moved out just hours before her parents reported her missing.

Kansas City Police said they have "moved on" from both men, but KCPD spokesman Capt. Steve Young said Friday that no one has been cleared in case new information arises that warrants a review. Tanko is in jail on separate charges.

Brando told CNN that he cooperated with detectives. He said he took and passed a polygraph test.

Stanton said he finds Brando "interesting," but he is not a focus.

"He's not the prime person I'm looking at this," he said.

However, he said Tanko and his former girlfriend, Megan Wright, do have his attention.

"We keep hearing his name again and again," Stanton said.

Wright has said her telephone received a phone call from a phone associated with Bradley and Irwin in the hours before Lisa was reported missing. Wright has said she did not have the phone at the time the 50-second call was received.

Wright originally said the call came in around 8:30 p.m. but this week said the phone call came in at 11:57 p.m.

Police have not confirmed Wright's account and Stanton does not know what the telephone records for the phones associated with Irwin and Bradley show. He said he has seen part of the records, but not all of them and has not reviewed them extensively.

He did not explain why, as an investigator, that he has not looked at the records in detail. He also did not explain whether anyone associated with Irwin or Bradley has a connection to Wright.

CNN reported this week that neither Stanton nor any of his investigators have interviewed Wright.
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[pharlap]

http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/2011/10/29/dr-lillian-glass-weighs-in-on-the-baby-lisa-case/
Dr. Lillian Glass Weighs In On the Baby Lisa Case
October 29th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Tks for sharing this link.  Good read as always.

 Things that I thought tis morning.
Why would a child snatcher (if alive Lisa)not take the blanket with?

If the person was drunk/on drugs why weren't there any finger prints,hairs, anything of this child snatcher in the house?

Who in the world would leave the lights on after taking a child?

Jmo, don't think Lisa is a live.....hope I'm wrong.
 

[trimmonthelake]

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/11/exclusive-irwin-family-attorney-john-picerno-talks-to-fox-4s-john-holt/
Exclusive: Irwin Family Attorney John Picerno Talks to FOX 4′s John Holt
9:23 pm, November 11, 2011, by John Holt

Three part video at link.

[trimmonthelake]

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/11/111111-baby-lisa-turns-one/
Solemn Gathering as Missing Baby Lisa Turns One Year Old
9:23 pm, November 11, 2011, by Sarah Clark

Video at link.

[MuffyBee]

http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/2011/10/29/dr-lillian-glass-weighs-in-on-the-baby-lisa-case/
Dr. Lillian Glass Weighs In On the Baby Lisa Case
October 29th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Tks for sharing this link.  Good read as always.

 Things that I thought tis morning.
Why would a child snatcher (if alive Lisa)not take the blanket with?

If the person was drunk/on drugs why weren't there any finger prints,hairs, anything of this child snatcher in the house?

Who in the world would leave the lights on after taking a child?

Jmo, don't think Lisa is a live.....hope I'm wrong.
 

pharlap, I agree with your list of "Things that I thought this morning".  It just doesn't make sense.  And like you, I don't believe Lisa is alive, and I hope we're both wrong.  I base some of my thoughts on Lisa's demise from the way Joe Tacopina has been brought in and the way the case is being handled by him.

[MuffyBee]

Good morning Clarice    I see you up in the rafters.     Would you like to share any thoughts you have on the case?