THE DEVRIES/VAN DER EEM VIDEO RECORDING AND THE KALPOE VS PHIL MCGRAW CONNECTION

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GUIDO

In Joran's statements the name "Guido" does not enter the picture until the evening of May 30, 2005 yet ... he was detained as a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case.  Obviously ... the players who played a role in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 were not limited to Paulus, Joran, Deepak and Satish.

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Joran van der Sloot - Suspect Statement - June 14, 2005

My tennis lesson was between the hours of 18.00 pm and 19.00 pm. According to me I was not called by anyone during that time. I had also made no calls myself. Approximately 19.00 pm, I was ready with playing tennis. I showered in the clubhouse. After I had finised showering I got dressed. I do not remember what I put on that day. I was wearing a short trousers and a T-shirt. It looked pretty nice/proper. I also wore slippers. Then I called "Andre". I do not remember his phone number. Andre lives near the Marriot Hotel. We had agreed that we would meet at the Wyndham Hotel at approximately 20.00 pm to play poker. I had then also called Guido. Guido had told me that he had to go to work. He would come later and try to enter the tournament for half time.  At approximately 19.15 pm I left on foot for the Wyndham Hotel. ....

At approximately 22.30, Guido arrived at the Wyndham Casino. Guido and myself went for a circular walk. After that Guido and myself walked to his car. His car was in the parking lot of the Wyndham Hotel. After that we drove to the Aruba Grant so that I could cash in my chips at the cashier. These were the chips that I had won earlier. Because it had turned eight o'clock earlier I had been unable to cash my chips then. Guido and myself played black jack in the Aruba Grant Casino for about 45 minutes. At the Aruba Grant I had won approximately U.S. 50,-. After that, at approximately 23.15 pm Guido and I arrived at the Radison Casino. I went to play poker. I was busy playing poker when I was called by Andre. He asked me where I was. I had told him that I was at the Radison Hotel. He told me he would come by there. Deepak had also asked me where I was. I told him that I was at the Radison Casino. Deepak told me that he would be there as soon as possible. At approximately 01.00 am Deepak came over to me. Andre was there too. I was on a roll. I played for about another hour. At approximately 02.00 am I stopped playing. I had "cashed out" my chips. Deepak wanted to go and play black jack. I didn't know why but he wanted to go to the Wyndham Casino. According to him he had no luck at the Radisson Casino. At approximately 02.30 am, Deepak and myself were walking to his car. He was there in his Honda Civic. The car was parked in the parking lot of the Radisson Hotel. Guido left to take Andre home.

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Natalee Holloway Snorted Coke, Fell to Death, Suspect Says
Joran van der Sloots alleged new confession asserts graphic details of the night she died
By CLEOPATRA ANDREADIS and CHRISTINE BROUWER
Feb. 26, 2010

New details in the alleged confession from Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, give an emotional and descriptive account of what he says were Holloways last moments that night she died. ....

More
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/latest-confession-natalee-holloway-suspect/story?id=9954650

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Posting to see if there is any difference in translation:

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/holloway_fell_over_balcony_say.php

Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

Whisky

In the statement, Van der Sloot says he, Natalee and another friend went to the friend's house where they took cocaine and drunk whisky.

Natalee climbed on to the edge of the balcony, he said. 'I think she was really drunk, so she started doing a sort of half strip tease, like she did on stage at Carls & Charlies,' he said.

'I walked to her to dance with her a bit, and I held her hips and when I let go she fell over the balcony.'

When the two ran down stairs, they found Natalee on the ground with a lot of blood. 'I think she hit the ground with her head first,' he is quoted as saying.

The two young men then put the body in a car and hid it in a swamp where he lost a shoe, he claims.

Alibi

The other youth has been given an alibi by his mother, the Telegraaf reports.

The new confession will be broadcast on RTL5 on Sunday night.

In 2008, Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R. de Vries claimed he had solved the mystery surrounding the girl's disappearance using a plant and a hidden camera.

During the programme, Van der Sloot told the plant, who was working for De Vries, that the girl was completely drunk and died while they were on the beach. Her body, he said, was dumped at sea.

© DutchNews.nl


http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/dutch-rss-news/natalee-holloway-died-after-fall,-suspect-says_26406.html

It is all about the lining of pockets.  Joran van der Sloot and ... each of the networks/personalities who have publicly revealed the changing confession have mutually benefitted.  I guarantee ... if Joran does not meet an early demise ... there will be more "confessions" to following as long as Joran continues to be assured that he cannot be held legally accountable.

Janet

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April 27, 2009
 
Terror Jaap breaks his silence today over the controversial interview he had with Joran van der Sloot. De Gouden Kooi-winner talks about the special friendship he has quickly built up with Joran and how far he had voluntarily and on camera to talk about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

... Joran had a huge gambling debt…with someone you don’t want to be in debt with. He needed my help.  So I thought…if I ‘invest’ right now…help him then I gain some power over you…you will trust me more…and at a certain point I can ask you…we have to do this. And that’s how it happened.

http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186479/langid=43/contentid=70993

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4918.msg787749#msg787749


Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot
Friday 26 February 2010

... Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/holloway_fell_over_balcony_say.php

 

[Tamikosmom]

It is all about the lining of pockets.  Joran van der Sloot and ... each of the networks/interviewers who have publicly revealed the changing confession have mutually benefitted.

If Joran does not meet an early demise ... there will be more "confessions" to follow as long as Joran continues to be assured that he cannot be held legally accountable.

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April 27, 2009
 
Terror Jaap breaks his silence today over the controversial interview he had with Joran van der Sloot. De Gouden Kooi-winner talks about the special friendship he has quickly built up with Joran and how far he had voluntarily and on camera to talk about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

... Joran had a huge gambling debt…with someone you don’t want to be in debt with. He needed my help.  So I thought…if I ‘invest’ right now…help him then I gain some power over you…you will trust me more…and at a certain point I can ask you…we have to do this. And that’s how it happened.

http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186479/langid=43/contentid=70993

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4918.msg787749#msg787749


Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot
Friday 26 February 2010

... Aruban officials have already dismissed the new statement as 'fantasy and lies'.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/holloway_fell_over_balcony_say.php

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When Joran's most recent "confession" distancing the Kalpoes is consider ... I cannot comprehend Gerold Dompig's response.

Janet

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ARUBAN CHIEF OF POLICE - GEROLD DOMPIG

Holloway fell over balcony, says Van der Sloot
Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.

The Telegraaf, which has seen the 2.5 hour interview, says an emotional Van der Sloot made the confession in a hotel room in Dusseldorf.

Former police chief Gerard Dompig, who was involved in the initial investigation into Holloway's disappearance on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005, says he believes the claim is worth further investigation.

Van der Sloot's new story fits with the time line and is very specific on the details, he told the Telegraaf.

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http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/holloway_fell_over_balcony_say.php


A REMINDER

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'

GEROLD DOMPIG: I still believe that these boys have been lying, they're still lying, and everybody knows that by now. So there's no doubt in my mind that they know something, they're guilty of something.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'

RITA COSBY: Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell. Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?
GEROLD DOMPIG: Yes.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'

GEROLD DOMPIG: Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9727957/


'Abrams Report'

GEROLD DOMPIG: Well, it would take me, I think, a little over two days to go over all the inconsistencies. None of the stories match up, let me put it that way. So when it comes to believing this individual, we know in which category to place him.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188


'The Abrams Report'

GEROLD DOMPIG: I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators. So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/


'The Abrams Report'

GEROLD DOMPIG: So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/


48 Hours Mystery

Dompig says he believes Paulus Van der Sloot does know more than he has been telling about the circumstances surrounding Holloway's disappearance.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page3.shtml

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THE WINDFALL

PETER DEVRIES - FEBRUARY 1, 2008

02 - 01 - 2008 / 5:15 p.m. (G.M.T.)
ABC obtains broadcast rights of Natalee Holloway report

ABC has obtained the American broadcast rights of the Natalee Holloway report produced by Peter R. DeVries. ABC will broadcast the program Monday evening.

The American television channel will present a special edition of the program 20/20, based on the report by Peter R. DeVries. The program will be broadcast from coast to coast Monday evening from 9:30 to 11:00 p.m. (EDT). Today Goodmorning America has started showing previews.

Peter Schouten, spokesman of Peter R. DeVries’s production company Endemol will not disclose how much ABC payed for the deal.
 
Sunday night 8:30 p.m. (GMT) the Dutch television station SBS6 will present the report on the Natalee Holloway case for the first time.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/


PETER DEVRIES - FEBRUARY 8, 2008
 
CRIME
Cracking the Holloway Case?
Meet the crime writer who believes he's solved the mystery.
By Catharine Skipp | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Feb 8, 2008 | Updated: 10:56  a.m. ET Feb 8, 2008

What is in this for van der Eem?
 
Patrick tells us he just wants to help solve this. He has two children and he is Aruban. He hates what this case has done to Aruba.

Was he compensated for his assistance?

We paid him 25,000 euros ($37,000) over five months.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/2


PATRICK VANDER EEM - FEBRUARY 2, 2008
 
Disposed - Patrick vander Eem

Chapter 21

Friday the second of February the prosecutor’s office of Aruba announced that it would reopen the Holloway case

The night before Peter Schouten had sealed an exclusive deal with ABC in his hotel room with a handwritten contract. After the interview he told me the amount he sold the rights for to ABC. I was astonished and had to pinch myself in my arm.

Chapter 23

The ironic thing of it all is that I roughly got my three hundred thousand Euros after all but in a way completely unexpected. When Peter R offered me half of the rights on foreign sold clips I was told not to expect much. Endemol had no experience selling these clips and even if they did the shelf life of the product is short, only a few days, and seldom sells for much. No one could have predicted that Peter Schouten would walk in and in a matter of days strike an exclusive deal with ABC for 830,000 dollars.  Endemol themselves managed to sell only a few thousand Euros worth in Europe.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13561414/Patrick-van-der-Eem-book

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COLLABORATING FOR THE ENEMY

Considering the Dutch investigators at the the highest level were forwarned by Patrick regarding his plans to secretly record Joran and ... considering the Aruban prosecutor's office had input in regards to questions ... could it be that Joran received a heads-up and ... that is the reason for all the lies that spewed from his lips.

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The Persistence Undertaking

private eye
Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »

... But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750

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Peter Devries has more faith in the Aruban prosecutor's office?  Since when did the Dutch/Aruban "powers that be" become advocates for justice when it comes to Natalee Holloway.

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02 - 15 - 2008 / 11:30 a.m. (G.M.T.)
INVESTIGATION CONTINUES

For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.

Peter R. de Vries

http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-norearrest.htm

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THAT HINKY FEELING

Lifesong
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
« Reply #749 on: February 15, 2008, 01:04:54 PM »

Ya know - while most of these recent events in last few months don't sit right with me, joran's confession notwithstanding, two of them are especially troubling.

First, when Joran was arrested in November, there were reports of infiltration and secret recording of him by someone close to him in Holland.  This was not part of the 'new' evidence Mos presented and these reports were never explained.

Second, both Peter and Patrick stated in interviews that either the day before or the actual day that they were supposed to start recording Joran in the outfitted SUV he was suddenly arrested and taken to Aruba.

These two items of information taken together lead me to believe that Joran was arrested and returned to Aruba to PREVENT him from confessing on the hidden tapes.   Even JQK said Mos didn't have anything new at the time.

It was fortunate that Joran is such an *sshole that he'd come right out of jail, get into the vehicle and start talking.

JMO, of course.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2605.msg350638#msg350638


BUCKSHOT
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #731 2/14 -
« Reply #770 on: February 15, 2008, 01:33:26 PM »

The reality of the situation is that Joran was arrested so he could be told about Patrick and Peter's secret taping, in addition to raising the bar that much higher for a future detainment. DO NOT KID YOURSELF, ARUBA HAS PLANNED THIS OUT AND PATIENTLY WAITED FOR THE APPROPRIATE TIME(S) TO MOST EFFECTIVELY DERAIL THE PROCESS.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4519.20

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Patrick vander Eem provides transcripts of all five rides in his book DISPOSED.  It appears that ... Joran is on a mission to implicate only himself in a misdemeanor under Dutch law of assisting in the disposal of a body.  He falsely implicates a friend.

Joran also negates the Persistence find of the trap/cage in his "confession".

Why does Peter Devries not acknowlege that Joran's words in the Range Rover recording ... other than the seizure segment ... are all lies?  Devries has an indept knowledge of the Natalee Holloway case.  Why does he refer to the recording as a "full confession"?  Why does he uphold the Aruban investigation?

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THE COMPLETE STORY
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Peter Devries:

Joran phones a person named ‘Daury’ who is half Dutch and half Aruban. A couple of other times Joran talks about the fact that he was helped by several other people that night.  Daury has a boat docked in front of the hotel in which he takes cruise tourists on ‘tubes’ and ‘bananas’.  Daury came instantly to Joran and together they quickly declared that Natalee was in fact dead.

Together they carried the girl from the beach into Daury’s boat. Daury tells Joran to walk home. He, the friend, takes off onto the ocean where he throws Natalee’s body out of the boat into the sea. After that he visits Joran at his home, he has an apartment in the garden of his parent’s house, to talk about what happened. ....

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent. ....

For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.
 

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm

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Was Hans Mos implying to Kyle Kingman that when the Range Rover recording was released in ten days it would be clear that a trap/cage was not an issue in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway therefore the mission of the Persistence had been been based on a false premise from the beginning?

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Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman: "10 days before the announcement of the DeVries tapes I met Mos downtown in public"

During this time, I was eagerly waiting for results from the Jan-7th trap samples. I expected him to know something by then. When we met, he asked me how I was doing and he said that he was suprised that I was still in Aruba. After some small talk back and forth, he asked when I was leaving. I flipped the question around on him, asking, "Hans, you tell me. When am I going home?" With that, he hesitated. It was clear to me that he knew something big that we didn't. I picked up on this and looked right into his eyes and asked him "Hans, between you and I, when will my family see me again?" He looked around for anyone watching or listening, leaned forward and said into my ear: "ten days". He then turned and walked away without saying another word.

I had no idea what 10 days meant at the time, but it meant something big was going to happen. I had assumed it related to the trap and it's contents, but couldn't prove anything. Well, 10 days later the announcement was made about the existence of the land rover tapes. I was really confused and didn't know what to feel. I honestly was a little dissapointed that the 10 days was about the confession tapes.

Credit: Kermit

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DAVE HOLLOWAY - THE RANGE ROVER CONFESSION

Nancy Grace – March 5, 2010

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Dave, there is a new prosecutor. Do you have any faith that there`s going to be a prosecution?

DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S FATHER: You know, I`m not really sure, Nancy. I had an opportunity to speak with him for a long period of time yesterday. I was inspired from what I heard. He believes that this latest story is false, and he gave me some reasons why. And you know, he just felt like the original video with Peter De Vries was the most accurate confession because it was not under any terms of money being paid. It was not under any duress or anything like that. He gave it voluntarily.

And after he gave that statement, Nancy, you know, everyone turned on him and realized that he`s the -- you know, the wolf in the sheep`s clothing. And then he had a difficult time of making friends with anyone. And they finally decided that, Hey, we`ve got to get him out of here, get him somewhere where no one knows him. You know, he`s had death threats, bodily harm issues and that sort of thing. So they tried to send him to Australia, and Australia blocked him from going to that country, and he ended up in Thailand, where he continued on with his issues and ...

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/05/ng.01.html

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In regards to the Range Rover "confession" ... has Natalee's father stopped to consider that:

1.  The new Aruban prosecutor does not work independently from those controlling the Natalee Holloway investigation ... those who have prevented justice from prevailing for almost five years.

2.  Dutch investigators at the highest level were forwarded by Patrick vander Eem in regards to the planned “secret” recording of Joran van der Sloot?  Patrick’s book DISPOSED is a must read.

3.  Peter Devries and the Aruban Prosecutor’s Office collaborated in regards to the questions that would be presented to Joran by Patrick during the “secret” recording.

4.  Possibly Joran was forwarded  by investigators/prosecutor during his rearrest at the end of November … prior to the beginning of the “secret” recordings in January.  It may have been a time of getting stories straight for Joran and the Kalpoes.

5.  The family attorney … Joran’s attorney … the Kalpoes’ attorney and … the Aruban judges were all on the same page in regards to the November rearrest of the three prime suspects in the Natalee Holloway case … NO NEW EVIDENCE! 

6.  The Range Rover recording concurs perfectly with the Aruban cover up agenda …the Aruban cover up agenda that was established at the getgo to protect Joran and Paulus from implication in the demise of Natalee.

7.  The Range Rover recording implicates ONLY Joran in a misdemeanour under Dutch law in regards to a disposal of a body while distancing ALL OTHERS except an unidentified accomplice:

SUSPECTS IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

Joran van der Sloot
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Deepak Kalpoe
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
08/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Satish Kalpoe
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
08/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Paulus van der Sloot
06/2005 -  complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping.

Steve Croes
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.   

Geoffrey van Cromvoirt
04/2006 - criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance"of Natalee Holloway.

Guido Weaver
04/2006 - Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen


Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis

FOX News - September 01, 2005
The Kalpoe brothers were released July 4 and rearrested last week with a friend of the three young men, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis (search), 21.  Zedan-Arambatzis, who is not suspected of involvement in the Holloway case, is accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and of showing the photos to other people, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia. He is also suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl, she said.  The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incident, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, Emerencia said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168233,00.html


CRUCIAL WITNESS IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

Carlos Ramos (Gardener)


PRIMARY COVER UP PARTICIPANTS

Jan vander Straten
Dennis Jacobs

[Tamikosmom]

In Joran's various "confessions" ... he never implicates those who were detained as suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.  Are the "confessions" all distractions from the truth in regards to those who participated in the the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing?

Janet

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STEVE CROES

Steve Croes
6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.


'Scarborough Country' - October 21, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  So, what happened was, Steve Croes came forward.  And Joran even mentions him in his first statement, that Steve Croes is the witness to seeing him drop Natalee off at the Holiday Inn and the two security guards coming up to take her. 

So, Steve Croes comes up.  That‘s where he sticks his neck out for some reason.  He volunteers this information that, oh, he witnessed this happening at the Holiday Inn.  Well, that never even happened.  So, that‘s why Steve Croes was arrested.  But I‘m sure there is another motive behind Steve Croes.  I‘m sure that it was that he has involvement.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/


On the Record w/ Greta - April 18, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: .... And when I think of Joran van der Sloot and when I think of Steven Croes and I think of this new suspect and the lies that were coming out early, very early, the moment we arrived on the island, if we find out that these three suspects are acquaintances or know each other — somebody needs to connect the dots. I mean, there certainly is a reason why Steven Croes came forward early on and stated, lied to the authorities that he had seen the two security guards taking Natalee. You know, people don't just do that for no reason, Greta.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192141,00.html

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Joran van der Sloot is silent in the Range Rover recording in regards to Steve Croes and Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

When the vicinity of their respective employment is considered ... could Steve Croes and Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt have availed their services to Paulus van der Sloot on the morning of May 30, 2005 by moving a deceased Natalee to another location ... a deceased Natalee who a short time earlier had either been buried in a shallow grave or hidden by Joran, Satish (?) and Deepak?  Could GVC have provided the vehicle?

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THE STEVE CROES AND GEOFFREY VAN CROMVOIRTCONNECTION


Suspicions

Steve Croes
6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

Geoffrey van Cromvoirt
4/2006 - criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance"of Natalee Holloway.


Connnect the Dots

On the Record w/ Greta - April 18, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: .... And when I think of Joran van der Sloot and when I think of Steven Croes and I think of this new suspect (GVC) and the lies that were coming out early, very early, the moment we arrived on the island, if we find out that these three suspects are acquaintances or know each other — somebody needs to connect the dots. I mean, there certainly is a reason why Steven Croes came forward early on and stated, lied to the authorities that he had seen the two security guards taking Natalee. You know, people don't just do that for no reason, Greta. Somebody needs to connect the dots on those three, if they know each other.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192141,00.html


Same Attorneys

On the Record w/ Greta - April 19, 2006

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: John, what I heard a little bit earlier today from someone I spoke to in Aruba is that the lawyer for "G.V.C." is also the lawyer — it's a woman — who represented Steve Croes, who is the man who came forward with the false alibi to the police which supported lie number one of Deepak, Satish and Joran. Do you know anything about the lawyer representing both Steve Croes and now "G.V.C."?

JOHN KELLY: I know that's the situation. It's a woman, and that is the person who represented Croes and would be representing this individual now. And actually, Ms. Janssen, when I talked to her today, she was just getting ready to turn over the dossier to "G.V.C.'s" attorney for review before they did go into court.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, Steve Croes, John — it was sort of a curious thing. He came forward seemingly out of the blue and said that he witnessed Deepak, Satish and Joran dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn and stumbling, and then two security guards coming up. That was a complete lie that he sort of volunteered, went to the police. He was taken into custody. He was then released. Is he free and clear of all of this, or is he still somewhat in the mix? ...

Then it's bizarre that this lawyer would represent both Steve Croes and GVC because at least here in the United States, I think most lawyers would say that there is a potential for conflict of interest and a lawyer shouldn't be representing both.

KELLY: I think that's right .....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192309,00.html


White Pick Up

Nancy Grace - July 29, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
 
JOSSY MANSUR: There`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html


Natalee's Uncle

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #312 on: January 22, 2008, 08:43:21 PM »

While I think that was excellent logic, I think that possibly the only difference I believe is that the boys buried her by the fishermans hut, and Paulus and Co moved her without the boys knowledge because of Joran's confession and the fact the boys recorded conversation  indicate they don't know where she is now. Also, if Lorenzo is involved, maybe Guido was there only the party was at Lorenzo's?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331268;topicseen#msg331268

[Tamikosmom]

In both the Range Rover recording and ... the most recent "confession" ... Joran van der Sloot fails to implicate even one of the suspects detained in the Natalee Holloway case.

Could it be that not one of those suspects would go down without revealing ALL who were participants in one way or another in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning of May 30, 2005 when Natalee Holloway disappeared?  In other words ... implication would imply that the Aruban house of cards would collapse.

In my opinion ... Joran van der Sloot's "confessions" are all part of the misinformation campaign that has existed for almost five years ... a misinformation campaign meant to distract from the truth and deny Natalee Holloway justice.

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[Tamikosmom]

In both the Range Rover recording and ... the most recent "confession" ... Joran van der Sloot fails to implicate even one of the suspects detained in the Natalee Holloway case.

Could it be that not one of those suspects would go down without revealing ALL who were participants in one way or another in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning of May 30, 2005 when Natalee Holloway disappeared?  In other words ... implication would imply that the Aruban house of cards would collapse.

In my opinion ... Joran van der Sloot's "confessions" are all part of the misinformation campaign that has existed for almost five years ... a misinformation campaign meant to distract from the truth and deny Natalee Holloway justice.

SUSPECTS IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

Joran van der Sloot
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Deepak Kalpoe
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
08/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Satish Kalpoe
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.
08/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.
11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

Paulus van der Sloot
06/2005 -  complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping.

Steve Croes
06/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.   

Geoffrey van Cromvoirt
04/2006 - criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance"of Natalee Holloway.

Guido Weaver
04/2006 - Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen


Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis

FOX News - September 01, 2005
The Kalpoe brothers were released July 4 and rearrested last week with a friend of the three young men, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis (search), 21.  Zedan-Arambatzis, who is not suspected of involvement in the Holloway case, is accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and of showing the photos to other people, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia. He is also suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl, she said.  The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incident, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, Emerencia said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168233,00.html

[Tamikosmom]

Considering their parents were in the know ... tt appears that Deepak, Satish and Joran had a heads up prior to their November, 2007 rearrests.  I can only assume that the prosecutor's office had dialogs with the families of the security guards prior to converging on their respective homes to make the arrests in the wee hours of the morning.

Janet

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Natalee Holloway’s family surprised by arrests
Thurs., Nov . 22, 2007

Van der Sloot's mother, Anita, denied her son was arrested and said he was only taken into custody for more questioning. She said he wasn't put in handcuffs.

"What they want to do with Joran is to bring him to Aruba for a final reconstruction," Anita van der Sloot told the Associated Press by telephone from the family's home in Aruba.

She said her family and that of the Kalpoe brothers had also been questioned in recent weeks.

"The questions they asked were so obvious, things like, 'Why did Joran leave his shoes on the beach?'" she said, referring to the place where her son said he kissed Holloway alone before her disappearance. "I think it's ridiculous after two-and-a-half years to be doing this."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21928803/

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[Tamikosmom]

Could it have been that ALL the suspects who have been detained in the Natalee Holloway case ... had been detained for the purpose of getting stories straight?  Did the prosecutors get it wrong every time?

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Nancy Grace - October 4, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  I mean I think of Freddy and I think what happened to him? You know what has happened to all of these persons of interest.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html

[Tamikosmom]

I am a believer that Phil McGraw's attorneys should not require any case documents to defend their case.  If the recording heard on the Dr. Phil show was not deceptively manipulated ... a professional comparison with Jamie Skeeters' hard drive is all that is necessary to prove that Deepak Kalpoe was not defamed by McGraw.  He defamed himself with his own words.

Could it be the Kalpoes' attorneys will claims that conforming to the request of Phil McGraw's attorneys in regards to producing documents is not possible as those documents were never in their possession?

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Nancy Grace - June 10, 2005

VIVIAN VAN DER BIEZEN, SPOKESPERSON FOR ARUBA PROSECUTOR: When a defense attorney has a client, then the defense attorney will have only the statements that relate to his clients. If the defense attorney doesn`t have information about one of the suspects, this means that this suspect did not have any accusations against his client.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/10/ng.01.html

fyi

[Tamikosmom]

Any confession of Joran van der Sloot that does not implicate Deepak and Satish Kalpoe ... is part of the misinformation campaign that was established early on to distract media attention from the truth encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 ... the morning Natalee Holloway went missing.

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'The Abrams Report' - August 26, 2005

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Prosecutors say all of this is based on new information.  Here‘s the quote from them.

“In the early morning hours of Friday, the 26th of August, 2005, police once more arrested the brothers, Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe.  They are in custody based on the same suspicions as before.  They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody.  Aside from these suspicions against the two brothers, there are new suspicions, which at this point the prosecutor is not commenting on.  To arrest S.K. and D.K.  again, there had to be new facts and circumstances.  That is the case.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9118769/


On the Record w/Greta - August 30, 2005

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Arlene, the re-arrests of Deepak and Satish and the arrest now of this third young man: put it in perspective. What does this mean?

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well, it means that the investigation is moving forward and there's hope that we might go towards a trial because, at first, I was doubting whether we were even facing a trial. It shows that the police have done some good work and apparently gathered evidence, new evidence enough for to bring them back in custody

VAN SUSTEREN: Is there any doubt in your mind, Arlene, that this is a huge step forward for Natalee Holloway's family?

ELLIS-SCHIPPER: I think it's a step forward. I think there's hope.

VAN SUSTEREN: But just a step forward, or do you think this is really a big moment?

ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, I think it's a big moment, Greta. You know, the prosecution and the investigation is moving very carefully. They don't want to make more mistakes, and they are very careful. So they must have had some real, real evidence and new facts that they felt confident enough to haul them back in.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167372,00.html