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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10 (Read 1003269 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 11, 2010, 09:51:54 PM »
Quote from: Frijole on February 11, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
So the guy that kept the family together is gone.
Is Anita strong enough to endure?
How do the brothers feel? Are they at all angry over having their lives ruined? Will they blame Joran for Paulus' health? Do they not know that Joran is draining them of funds and the ability to have peace in their lifetime? I would think it would be hard to keep it in. I can hope.
Then there are the Kalpoe brothers. Have they learned anything since this began? (I doubt it)!
Paul might have taken the truth to the grave with him but there are others that know and they lived in that house.
Anita was an enabler IMO. What happens when the spouse/partner of an enabler dies? Just thinking.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Quote from: Frijole on February 11, 2010, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
WOW. Look at those photos. The first one is one of love, of hope, of the future. Then something bad happened. And there was no more hope for the future. It is time to end the nonsense and come clean. End the insanity. Anita, clear the air and give your two sons hope for the future - before it is too late.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT FRIJOLE.
What if the truth is her husband was the one with Natalee and her son dropped Natalee off at the house and then dropped her on the beach where he realized she was dying. Her son takes the rap to hide what PAPA did.
EITHER WAY - GIVE NATALEE BACK is the MESSAGE cuz it looks like JUDGEMENT DAY IS HERE!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 11, 2010, 09:57:58 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 11, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 11, 2010, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on February 11, 2010, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: CBB on February 11, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
I figure that Paulus had life insurance, don't you? IMO, he probably bought even more after Natalee's case.
I was thinking he'd have life insurance, too, CBB. Also was wondering about the property & holdings in NL & Aruba.
Depending on how much debt he has - the life insurance may cover his debt and leave Anita and Sebastian forced to move out.
That's what I was thinking. So many years of attorney's fees to pay for his son. Wayward son living the life of Riely in Thailand. Another in college. Debt could well be too high for that house to remain in her hands.
TUITION AND EXPENSES for Emerson College
Cost of Attendance $44,359
Tuition and Fees
$29,928
Room and Board $12,280
Books and Supplies $720
Other Expenses $1,431
DEBT to sue the Aruba gov't
DEBT for legal fees with Joe Tacopina Law Office.
DEBT for legal fees for KALPOES
etc. etc.
If his estate owes more then his life insurance - Anita gets zero and the house may have to be sold in order to pay off the remaining debt.
Don't forget the gambling - both he and his son.
Remember Jossy told us in the beginning Paulus was a womanizer and a serious gambler. I wonder how much he owed Posner on his line of credit at the time of his heart attack
IF it was a heart attack or he became dispensable to the powers-that-be.
Quote from: texasmom on February 11, 2010, 09:01:23 AM
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http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp
· Close · Aruba, February 11th, 2010
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 18 JANUARY 2007 under serial number 35741.0 is the company with the tradename:
CARLO & VAN DER SLOOT
Business address
CONSTANTIJN HUYGENSTRAAT 5
, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form PARTNERSHIP
Name of the company CARLO & VAN DER SLOOT
Date of commencement 1 JANUARY 2007
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 8 JANUARY 2010
OWNERS/PARTNERS
ADVOCATENKANTOOR MR A.A.D.A. CARLO N.V.
Position MANAGING PARTNER
Since 18 JANUARY 2007
Authority FULL
VAN DER SLOOT, PAUL ANTONIUS PETRUS JOHANNA
;
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, BOXTEL on 15 FEBRUARY 1952
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING PARTNER
Effective 18 JANUARY 2007
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
HET UITOEFENEN VAN EEN ADVOCATENKANTOOR.
I keep thinking about this. Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?
Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?
10/9/2009
Awe Mainta Page 10
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
Google translation:
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 11, 2010, 10:08:21 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on February 11, 2010, 09:57:58 PM
I keep thinking about this. Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?
Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?
10/9/2009
Awe Mainta Page 10
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
Google translation:
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com
Wow, very interesting indeed. Then add in the likely hood that the Kalpoes will come away owing money from their Dr. Phil suit too.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Reply #1225 on:
February 11, 2010, 10:18:48 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on February 11, 2010, 10:08:21 PM
Quote from: texasmom on February 11, 2010, 09:57:58 PM
I keep thinking about this. Does anyone think Oduber being kicked to the curb in the elections at the end of September had anything to do with the following, and with the Carlo & Vandersloot company being cancelled?
Was Paulus still even with the Carlo law firm when he died?
10/9/2009
Awe Mainta Page 10
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
Google translation:
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A. Carlo N.V.
Currently, our office space for:
an attorney-employee
for general legal practice, in particular di
litigation practice.
Written solliciaties, with a curriculum vitae, can
You within fourteen (14) days after the publication of this
ad e-mail/post or by fax addressed to
A.A.D.A. Carlo, whose details can be obtained
become.
Lawyers mr A.A.D.A Carlo N.V.
Constantijn Huygens Street Number
Mon Plaisir, Oranjestad
Aruba
tel: (297) 5824440
fax: (297) 5824460
email: antonio @ carlolawo ce.com
Wow, very interesting indeed. Then add in the likely hood that the Kalpoes will come away owing money from their Dr. Phil suit too.
It's the mafia way - remove and move assets
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February 11, 2010, 10:20:29 PM »
Greta will be talking about Aruba tonight. She just went to commercial.
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Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot
This is starting to get interesting! I agree about the Kalpoes ................. they should take your advice and try to take asylum in the US. It only takes one "link in the chain" to fail for the whole length to be worthless. That first "masterlink" just failed!
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What's happened on Greta????
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Many thanks to the wonderful Monkey who provides the funds for the court documents! Thanks also to Klaas!
Rob - Hello back. Please make yourself known more often
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Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot
It would be veery interesting to know if there was a parting of the ways, and iif so, why?
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Quote from: wreck on February 11, 2010, 10:32:00 PM
What's happened on Greta????
I'm not watching but my guess is at the end of her hour. She still has another 25 min. or so.
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Quote from: MuffyBee on February 11, 2010, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Frijole on February 11, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
So the guy that kept the family together is gone.
Is Anita strong enough to endure?
How do the brothers feel? Are they at all angry over having their lives ruined? Will they blame Joran for Paulus' health? Do they not know that Joran is draining them of funds and the ability to have peace in their lifetime? I would think it would be hard to keep it in. I can hope.
Then there are the Kalpoe brothers. Have they learned anything since this began? (I doubt it)!
Paul might have taken the truth to the grave with him but there are others that know and they lived in that house.
Anita was an enabler IMO. What happens when the spouse/partner of an enabler dies? Just thinking.
Muffy that's a very interesting question. Wish I knew the answer.
Would think an enabler would eventually repeat the pattern. In the meantime she has always enabled Joran, and will continue to do so (to protect secrets) IMO.
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Greta, just after the finish of this commercial
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Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot
Just wanted to add this in case. The website still has the Sloot name:
Domain Name.......... carlolawoffice.com
Creation Date........ 2004-12-11
Registration Date.... 2004-12-11
Expiry Date.......... 2010-12-11
Organisation Name.... Antonio Carlo
Organisation Address. Constantijn Huygenstr. 5
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Oranjestad
Organisation Address. 12345
Organisation Address. AW
Organisation Address. ARUBA
Admin Name........... Elvis Lacle
Admin Address........ Bubali 98-G
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Oranjestad.
Admin Address........ 12345
Admin Address........ AW
Admin Address........ ARUBA
Admin Email.......... **********@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.2975876688
Admin Fax............
Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... ***********@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... ns1.secure.net
Name Server.......... ns2.secure.net
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 11, 2010, 10:46:57 PM »
Quote from: wreck on February 11, 2010, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 11, 2010, 10:13:27 PM
Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot
This is starting to get interesting! I agree about the Kalpoes ................. they should take your advice and try to take asylum in the US. It only takes one "link in the chain" to fail for the whole length to be worthless. That first "masterlink" just failed!
They'd better break out those "pocketless" pants!
DEEPAK: Mama, please sew up the pockets in my pants.
MAMA: Deepak, why would you want mama to sew up your pockets?
DEEPAK: So when they find me hanging, my hands won't be in them!
MAMA: SATISH! Get out from under that bed now, and STOP that whining...I'm trying to
talk!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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OH GOD Renfro's voice still creeps me out.
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Julia Renfro sounds drunk.
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According to her sources Joran is in school.
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I'm not watching but so far that I've heard, Renfro is on and she sounds like she's been hitting the bottle again.
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