Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[lula]

I haven't posted for a long time, but found this tonight at my favorite news source,and the link to the article says "exceeded band width". The system may have crashed. It says JORAN commited suicide.
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526585/posts?page=51
Moderators please remove if untrue.
Justice for Natalee, finally!  (Edit-Name.  MB)

[texasmom]

Greta was talking about how Aruba bungled the case, Bill O'Reilly cut her off..said it was more than bungled...he was the son of a judge (that irks me every time I hear it, he WASN'T a judge!) and it was cronyism plain and simple...they let him get away with it!

Greta said Beth is distraught.  :monkeytears:

[cajun miracle]

Niteline will cover this tonight on ABC. Hey to all Monkeys!!!!!!!!!!
Justice IS coming!!!!!!!!

Hey cajun! 

Hey Can. Been up in the rafters until this all happened. He will love his new home in Peru!!!!!!!!!!!!

[texasmom]

My guess is that he will try to get to Colombia. Kock and some of the other Aruban attorneys have offices there.

Yes they sure do, I'd forgotten about that!  Thanks Buckeye!

[Port Valerie]

If Joran is running to a country that would possibly not extradite him, why didn't he go over into Brazil?  It's even closer to Peru than Argentina.  Just wondering...

Amazon jungle in Brazil. Full of monkeys.

[BUCKSHOT]

Interpol may need to contact Aruba for their state of the art, cutting-edge, investigative techniques...

Place Joran under the "10-Day Watch" surveillance program...

[klaasend]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/

Police: Former Natalee Holloway Suspect Sought in Murder in Peru

A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in a weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.
fox news

LIMA, Peru -- A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in the weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.

Joran van der Sloot is being sought for Sunday's killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel, police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia told a news conference. He said the suspect crossed into Chile the next day by bus.

Authorities in Chile confirmed that van der Sloot entered their country on May 31 and there is no record of him leaving. Police inspector Douglas Rodriguez in Arica told The Associated Press that police are searching hotels and residences in northern Chile for the suspect.

The Dutch government said Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot.

Guardia said the 22-year-old Dutchman, in Peru for a poker tournament, appears with the young woman in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday and the two were later seen entering the hotel by one of its employees.

The victim's father, circus empresario and former race car driver Ricardo Flores, says his daughter dropped off some girlfriends at 2:35 a.m. then apparently returned to the casino. She and van der Sloot were seen entering the hotel room about 5 a.m., said Guardia, and the Dutchman departed alone about four hours later.

"We have an interview with a worker at the hotel who says she saw this foreigner with the victim enter his room," said Guardia.

Stephany Flores' body was found face down on the hotel room floor on Wednesday, abrasions on her face and body, and signs of trauma, the police general said. He said she was clothed.

Asked if she had been asphyxiated, Guardia said he was awaiting autopsy results for the exact cause of death.

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance of Holloway in Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island.

Van der Sloot left Peru on Monday by land, Guardia said, his exit registered at the Santa Rosa border crossing. He had been staying at the hotel since May 14, having entered on a flight from Colombia, the police general added.

The victim's father is a 48-year-old former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the "Caminos del Inca" rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.

Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot, Dutch Foreign Ministry spokesman Bengt van Loosdrecht told The Associated Press in The Netherlands.

He cited as his sources Peruvian police and the Dutch Embassy in Lima. The embassy's head of consular affairs, Angela Lowe, told the AP she could not comment on the case.

But Rodriguez, the Chilean police inspector, said authorities there had so far only received an order to locate his whereabouts, not an arrest warrant.

An attorney for van der Sloot in New York City, Joe Tacopina, said he did not know his client's whereabouts and has not been in touch with him since the Peru allegations emerged.

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

Van der Sloot was twice arrested but later released for lack of evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway, who was on a high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island.

No trace of her has been found and van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case, said Ann Angela, spokeswoman for the Aruba prosecutor's office.

"What's happening now is incredible," she said. "At this moment we don't have anything to do with it, but we are following the case with great interest and if Peruvian authorities would need us, we are here."

Van der Sloot's late father was a prominent judge in Aruba.

The mystery of Holloway's disappearance has garnered wide attention on television and in newspapers in Europe and the United States.

Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach, drunk.

He said believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Alabama, told the AP the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

[Puzzler]

Death penalty in Peru????? Many countries won't extradite perps who may be subject to the death penalty.  In any case, Peru just HAS to be tougher on murderers than The Netherlands or Aruba!

FYI - There was an earlier post that indicated that there is NO death penalty in Peru.

[Northern Rose]

Joran van der Sloot also suspected of killing Peruvian

HLN update Joran van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of the daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. This confirms a spokesperson for the Public Prosecutor (OM) in Aruba. The Dutchman is a fugitive and is now transmitted internationally through Interpol. Van der Sloot was a long time suspect in the sensational disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

The Peruvian Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found dead in a hotel room in the hotel Tac Peru Miraflores. The room was booked in the name of Van der Sloot, the Times writes.

In addition, staff from the hotel to the police stated that they van der Sloot last weekend with the victim saw. According to some Peruvian sites, he left for Chile on May 31, from there to travel to Argentina. The father of the victim, Ricardo Flores, on the Peruvian television stated that Van der Sloot on the night of Sunday morning has left a casino with his daughter.

Van der Sloot is now attempting through third parties to contact with his American lawyer Joseph Taco Pina, let them know Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias to. Taco Pina says he does not know where his client lives, and finds it difficult to defend him because he does not know the Peruvian legislation. (Belga / SVM / MVDB / sam)
03/06/1910 5:02

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2161/Zaak-Holloway/article/detail/1113370/2010/06/03/Joran-van-der-Sloot-ook-verdacht-van-moord-op-Peruaanse.dhtml

[Magnolia]

Maybe he called Jean Akers for consulate information???

[Cappuccino]

Sniped from the above article linked

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.


Yo Taco, did it ever occur to you that you are ruining what is left of your career defending this monster?   Are you listening to yourself, because to the rest of the world that has an ounce of logic knows what your client did do once was get away with murder....earth to Taco  NOT THIS TIME!

[Northern Rose]

Honor posthumously to Stephany Flores

Family and friends fondly remembered the young Stephany Flores was murdered in a hotel in Miraflores, a prospective subject Dutchman antecedents of homicide in other countries.

At a wake in San Borja watch their remains from 17:00 horasante the profound pain of relatives who can not believe even the misfortune that fell on this young student of business administration from the University of Lima.

Friends of his father, the renowned businessman and Peruvian racer Ricardo Flores "rifle", came to express their solidarity.

Among those attending were the Defense Minister, Rafael Rey, a candidate for mayor of Lima, Alex Kouri, and the capital's current mayor, Luis Castaneda Lossio, among others. The former regional president of Callao noted that this fact leads us to reflect the current rate of violence that exists in society and asserted that justice will soon resolve the case.

In turn the Minister Rafael Rey mourned the death of the girl and said that the suspect Joran Van Der Sloot, 23, is being followed. "We will make every effort to capture him, and otherwise to pray for his family and for her," he said.

Lima Mayor said that how the girl died university was extremely hard, because his body had abrasions on his face and some body parts.

"The logic is that parents die before children, so it is unimaginable what his father is suffering," said his departure.

The remains of Stephany Flores will be buried Thursday at 16:000 am in the Campo Santo de La Molina.

http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/02/06/2010/rinden-homenaje-postumo-stephany-flores

[wreck]

Anyone check in on our "friends" at RU???

[cecilita]

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omg is a 5 bloks from the atlantis....

I am sorry I got confuse with another street...the hotel is about 12 0r 15 blocks away from the casino and 5 minutes driving.

[texasmom]

Maybe he called Jean Akers for consulate information???

Wouldn't surprise me at all....:monkeynono:

[BUCKSHOT]

Joran tries to reach his lawyer


LIMA (Reuters) - Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is suspected of murdering the Peruvian Stephany Flores, through third parties trying to establish contact with his American lawyer, Joseph Pina Taco. This has Pina Taco Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias across the states.
Taco Pina told the radio station not knowing where the client resides. He considers it 'difficult''to defend him because he does not know the Peruvian legislation, said RPP Noticias.
Stephany Flores was found dead in the hotel in the Peruvian capital Lima, where her testimony with Van der Sloot were seen going inside. The 21-year-old was in a room that had been made in the name of Van der Sloot.
According to the Peruvian authorities, the Dutch fled to neighboring Chile.

http://www.limburger.nl/article/20100603/ANPNIEUWS01/6030303/1030

Joran: Joe, I need your help !!!
Joe Tacopina: Joran, where the hell are you?
Joran: Right across the border of Peru into Chile
Joe Tacopina: Did your mom ever send the rest of my unpaid legal fees?
Joran: Joe, don't start this shit now. I really need you.
Joe Tacopina: I don't know Peruvian or Chilean law.
Joe Tacopina: Bad connection...Gotta go. Best of luck to you...

[texasmom]

Anyone check in on our "friends" at RU???

I haven't...but

Some of them probably needed resuscitation, lol

I bet Resigned is having a field day!

[crazybabyborg]

Not that it matters, but we (EST) are 2 hours ahead of Chilean time. I'm sure those who are looking for Joran work around the clock.

If Joran has made phone calls, I'm hoping that will help locate him. I wonder how long ago those calls were made?

[cecilita]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/

Police: Former Natalee Holloway Suspect Sought in Murder in Peru

A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in a weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.
fox news

LIMA, Peru -- A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in the weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.

Joran van der Sloot is being sought for Sunday's killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel, police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia told a news conference. He said the suspect crossed into Chile the next day by bus.

Authorities in Chile confirmed that van der Sloot entered their country on May 31 and there is no record of him leaving. Police inspector Douglas Rodriguez in Arica told The Associated Press that police are searching hotels and residences in northern Chile for the suspect.

The Dutch government said Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot.

Guardia said the 22-year-old Dutchman, in Peru for a poker tournament, appears with the young woman in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday and the two were later seen entering the hotel by one of its employees.

The victim's father, circus empresario and former race car driver Ricardo Flores, says his daughter dropped off some girlfriends at 2:35 a.m. then apparently returned to the casino. She and van der Sloot were seen entering the hotel room about 5 a.m., said Guardia, and the Dutchman departed alone about four hours later.

"We have an interview with a worker at the hotel who says she saw this foreigner with the victim enter his room," said Guardia.

Stephany Flores' body was found face down on the hotel room floor on Wednesday, abrasions on her face and body, and signs of trauma, the police general said. He said she was clothed.

Asked if she had been asphyxiated, Guardia said he was awaiting autopsy results for the exact cause of death.

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance of Holloway in Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island.

Van der Sloot left Peru on Monday by land, Guardia said, his exit registered at the Santa Rosa border crossing. He had been staying at the hotel since May 14, having entered on a flight from Colombia, the police general added.

The victim's father is a 48-year-old former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the "Caminos del Inca" rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.

Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot, Dutch Foreign Ministry spokesman Bengt van Loosdrecht told The Associated Press in The Netherlands.

He cited as his sources Peruvian police and the Dutch Embassy in Lima. The embassy's head of consular affairs, Angela Lowe, told the AP she could not comment on the case.

But Rodriguez, the Chilean police inspector, said authorities there had so far only received an order to locate his whereabouts, not an arrest warrant.

An attorney for van der Sloot in New York City, Joe Tacopina, said he did not know his client's whereabouts and has not been in touch with him since the Peru allegations emerged.

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

Van der Sloot was twice arrested but later released for lack of evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway, who was on a high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island.

No trace of her has been found and van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case, said Ann Angela, spokeswoman for the Aruba prosecutor's office.

"What's happening now is incredible," she said. "At this moment we don't have anything to do with it, but we are following the case with great interest and if Peruvian authorities would need us, we are here."

Van der Sloot's late father was a prominent judge in Aruba.

The mystery of Holloway's disappearance has garnered wide attention on television and in newspapers in Europe and the United States.

Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach, drunk.

He said believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Alabama, told the AP the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

He must fly from Lima to Tacna and from tacna (Peru) to Arica (Chile) is only 45 minutes

[klaasend]

Anyone check in on our "friends" at RU???

Yes, been following them most of the day.

For the most part those that were somehow still on the fence fell off and want Joran's head.

There are still a couple of people making excuses for Joran.  Then there's Renfro.  I haven't seen Billybob/Medleyrelay/Jan Brennan post yet.  She might be in shock.