LaLa, This is how CAPS led us to Steve. It evolved as most of his information does, and he finally said Hendrick Croes, Jr. and moved on to the dicemen and Lorenzo. This ironically is the same family tree that Finbar led us to when he said we would find an ex-monkey (AG) and the 5th. Finbar then jumped back in an made a comment about Hendrick and the earlobes. I have not seen any absolute factual anything that makes Steve=Hendrick, Jr. I decded to finally just go with Finbar and CAPS. This is some hot family tree.
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 03, 2008, 08:42:49 PM
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all keys Sofar are working perfectly and fits based on research and who is pulling the string
THE USA NEWS MEDIA) know that the blame lies on (.....)
Question who did the the USA NEWS MEDIA blame for this problem in 2005
Caps…I really don’t mean to be a wet sock, but how can you say something is working when you have not verified the answer to the first question and have moved on two more steps.
You are now on Steve Croes and we don’t even know that Marianne Croes two pages back is right. It appears it is not!
It is almost as though you have the answer and are making it fit!
I am sorry you have totally lost me here, and I am going back to my own logic. Not the boo..whatever computer logic!
CAPS
I
have and I am building a relationship table also.
without this relationship table you can not climb over the other wall
Steve croes come in to the pricture and is link to Paules van der Sloot and not Joran, When Beth come to Aruba, they did not want beth to see Steve Croes
When Babalu have discover DH few minutes later they have discover Steve Croes. Quote from: texasmom on April 03, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
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before I replay to the Lordship,
Who was the speaker of the Prosecuter office on that day in question
Need a name
If by the day in question, you mean the day Natalee disappeared, then I want to say Marianne Croes, but I will bow to others who may have better memories and records to back it up.
She is "The Gods"
and "the gods" are "USA NEWS MEDIA)
and many gods are "INTERNATIONAL NEWS MEDIA"
The gods are done for
Sorry Finn…I am still looking for this link…Marianne Croes...You may have better luck than me!
If this is correct, she must have come in after March of 2005, still checking.....
http://www.infoplease.com/world/leaders/aruba.htmlArubaChiefs of State and Cabinet Members of Foreign Governments
Date of Information: 3/2/2005
Governor Fredis REFENJOL
Prime Minister Nelson ODUBER
Min. of Education Fredis REFENJOL
Min. of Finance & Economic Affairs Nilo SWAEN
Min. of General Affairs & Utilities Nelson ODUBER
Min. of Justice Rudy CROES
Min. of Public Health Booshi WEVER
Min. of Public Works Marisol TROMP
Min. of Sports, Culture, & Labor Ramon LEE
Min. of Tourism & Transportation Eddy BRIESEN
Attorney General Ruud ROSINGH
Pres., Central Bank A.R. CARAM
Steve Croes is related to who ?
Steve Croes work for who.???... whos is pulling his strings ---An office or a PersonSS
CAPS,
We went around and around over Steve Croes a few weeks ago. He lives with his grandparents. His mother's name is Imolda Statia Saliana. His aunt and uncle live next door to his grandparents. He is related through the aunt. The uncle's name is Rufo Solognier. I have read rumors that his father might be a judicial figure on Curacao. I don't think any of us have figured out why he came forward to lie for the Kalpoes. He was supposed to be working on the Tatoo that night, but witnesses have reportedly placed him at C&Cs. Some think that he is Daury because he had access to Tatoo and the smaller water taxi that services Tatoo. Croes did lose his job after he was arrested and reportedly he eventually worked at C&Cs. A few of us tried to figure out who he is related to, but there are so many Croes that we have been able to narrow the search. Finbar wanted us to take a good look at Steve Croes as the 5th suspect. Supposedly his earlobes will be a hint as to who he is related to.
TEXASMOM
SS,
I was totally on the same page as to who Finbar was leading us to until I saw this:
VAN CROMVOIRT, WILHELMUS BERNARDUS HENRIQUEZ PETRUS PAULUS
Haven't we seen that name somewhere? See if you can find anything......
SS
I found four people who could be possible connections to our DJ. They were Theresa Croes-Fernandez, Rudy Croes. Hendrik Croes, or the Croes from the Croes and Wever law firm.
I also found something a while back which was also a connection to the name Henriquez. Finbar had told us to look for the grandmother and if I recall, I don't think that we ever identified her. There was a Maria Regina Croes (12/30/1906 - 8/9/1991). I have this woman as a mother of Ellen Henriquez who was born 11/21/1943. I wondered at the time if this woman was the maternal grandmother. This would be an Henriques connection. I also found an Inoivia Beltranda Croes (11/10/1904 - 8/4/1979). Her son was a Jacobo Alders who was born 9/2/1939. I suspected that this was a possible paternal grandmother.
Because of what Finbar was trying to tell us, I have to feel that he shares a common grandmother with someone important. I have suspected Rudy Croes. And, they both have earlobes that curl. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 03, 2008, 08:42:49 PM
Quote Caps…
all keys Sofar are working perfectly and fits based on research and who is pulling the string
THE USA NEWS MEDIA) know that the blame lies on (.....)
Question who did the the USA NEWS MEDIA blame for this problem in 2005
Caps…I really don’t mean to be a wet sock, but how can you say something is working when you have not verified the answer to the first question and have moved on two more steps.
You are now on Steve Croes and we don’t even know that Marianne Croes two pages back is right. It appears it is not!
It is almost as though you have the answer and are making it fit!
I am sorry you have totally lost me here, and I am going back to my own logic. Not the boo..whatever computer logic!
CAPS
I have and I am building a relationship table also.
without this relationship table you can not climb over the other wall
Steve croes come in to the pricture and is link to Paules van der Sloot and not Joran, When Beth come to Aruba, they did not want beth to see Steve Croes
When Babalu have discover DH few minutes later they have discover Steve Croes. MUM
SS...Help here please...I thought the Croes from the Wever Croes Tchong (sp...it's late for me) lawfirm was Hendrick Croes, Rudy's brother!
SS
Yes Mum, you are correct. I checked my notes and didn't see the arrow that I had made.
Hendrick Croes is in the lawfirm and he is Rudy's brother. The genealogy search gets very difficult for people who are currently alive. Most genealogy databases do not give the full names of living people in order to protect their identity. This is why I can't make the connections for current generations. There are so many Croes people running around on that island.
Quote from: MumInOhio on April 03, 2008, 09:34:51 PM
SS...Thanks...I was hoping there was not two Hendrik Croes! I am not very good at following any of it...
CAPS
Let iit roll klaas
The Diceman is link to Steve Croes, and steve Croes is link to Puales V/D Sloot
to go to these parties, the diceman must be invited by steve croes. (Now who is this SOB), Maybe Hendrick Croes Jr. or who.SS
CAPS -
Are you saying the Steve Croes' correct name is Hendrick Severino Croes?
If so, then Finbar was giving us the correct tip and his great grandparents would have been Ezau Henriquez and Maria Regina Croes. Their daughter, Ellen Henriquez, would have had a daughter named Imolda who married someone named Croes - Rudy, Hendrick, or an additional brother. Which one is Dirty Hand?
Finbar
Henriquez
Fed the messengers(not the god with the misspelled name)
The ear lobes were just an observation.Fin
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Hold on to the tought of Guido the diceman and Steve Croes.Snago says: paul sing because he can sing any song.. We know that, But to sing to save his offspring while hanging Joran do not compute, Which other offspring does Paules have?
Lorenzo
OK last name:?
other key scores
Lorenzo van Rijn