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Here!!  Where's Joran?

Here we go!

The first thread of the end of Joran's Days!  May Lady Justice finally serve Natalee and her family.

You did it Magnolia.  I didn't even have to tell you to run to the new thread....LOL

I hope somebody posted Natalee's picture at the end of that last thread!

The end snuck up on me so fast, I didn't even think about it!

If not, please...pretty please add it!

TIA

I brightened Stephany up a bit.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/inter1.jpg)

Joran tries to reach his lawyer

LIMA (Reuters) - Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is suspected of murdering the Peruvian Stephany Flores, through third parties trying to establish contact with his American lawyer, Joseph Pina Taco. This has Pina Taco Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias across the states.

Taco Pina told the radio station not knowing where the client resides. He considers it 'difficult''to defend him because he does not know the Peruvian legislation, said RPP Noticias.

Stephany Flores was found dead in the hotel in the Peruvian capital Lima, where her testimony with Van der Sloot were seen going inside. The 21-year-old was in a room that had been made in the name of Van der Sloot.

According to the Peruvian authorities, the Dutch fled to neighboring Chile.

http://www.brabantsdagblad.nl/algemeen/bdbinnenland/6778629/Joran-probeert-zijn-advocaat-te-bereiken.ece

He's on his way to hell (one way or another), where he belongs!  yippeeee!

I have been in that casino so many times and I am sure that the two guys are in the front door will notice if he had blood on his clothes or he was nervous. It is a major and busy road in front the casino and in one second he will find 5 taxis to ride....I hope that the cameras caught the taxi took him to somewhere

San, it's the first time I have ever been first without cheating!! and I don't even have
a smiley to cheer for me.

So, are the suicide rumors true or not?  ANyone know?

We don't know yet if this is false:

http://dailyworldtrends.com/joran-van-der-sloot-update-joran-van-der-sloot-found-dead-near-peru-border-after-committing-suicide/1720

Broke the heliopause.

God, so great to say that again!

carried over....


OmG

I was just thinking about these earlier.

HA

What a precious girl.

Justice for Natelee! 

Greta will have this story later. Right now she has the governor of Arizona. Wow -- that Arizona sun must be tough. She looks about 110 years old.

Thanks,Carpe.  I was hoping for that.  She is a cute girl.  Very sad.

Joran Van Der Sloot paid 780 thousand suns for it out of the country

The brothers Aparcana Pisconte 500 thousand suns were to transport the Dutchman Nazca to Tacna and then another 280 soles to bring it to the Chilean city of Arica.

The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (21), suspected of the crime of Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores, paid 780 thousand suns to be moved from the Ica region in Peru, the Chilean city of Arica, said the brothers Aparcana Pisconte who is responsible for mobilizing.

In a conversation with RPP, told the stranger paid 500 thousand dollars per shuttle service between Nazca and Tacna, and then paid 280 soles to be taken to Arica.

Also pointed out that the alien was wearing shorts and white sneakers, and was in possession of two suitcases.

"Do not talk to him and he did not know the language. Just got up, smoked and fell asleep again," he added.

They said that Van Der Sloot, who was also linked to the disappearance in 2005 of an American student in Aruba, had a ticket to Cusco, as was "unable to give effect last Sunday.

"We left Nazca at 12 pm or so and have come to Arica at four in the afternoon of Monday," he said.

The head of the Criminal Investigation Department, Cesar Guardia, said Van Der Sloot is the prime suspect. "We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim" at the hotel, he said.

"A hotel employee heard no screams, but saw them entering together," added the general press conference.

Ramirez Flores's body was found early Wednesday in the hotel Tac Lima district of Miraflores.

Guard stated that the victim had "abrasions on his face and body, plus traumatic injuries."

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-02-joran-van-der-sloot-pago-mil-780-soles-para-que-lo-saquen-del-pais-noticia_269525.html

I believe it's false

He's on a bus or in a private car trying to get to the Dutch Consulate in Iquique. That would be his only move, if he is a lone wolf as I believe he is.

I think he feels more secure when he is near the ocean.

This is it for him, this costs him his life - it's just not enough of a price though - and way late. But that's on Aruba, isn't it?

Anita, let's just jump to the award ceremony.

Let's get those certificates out and flyin'

Mother of the Year - NOT

One son that killed two girls and raped at least 8 depended on who's count you're using.

One son that staged a movie assault in an alley-way with a screaming girl and his name is van der Sloot and the cops show up.

And last but not least, the other son, the fat one, he likes to stick left over spaghetti and firecrackers and up his ass and post that on YouTube.

You are what makes Holland proud.

You ARE what makes Europe stand out in the feverish global economic atmosphere.

It is YOUR teaching skills down at ISA that sets you and your children apart for all of the normal crackheads and gangbangers and well, kids that run around nekkid all day.

Yes, you Anita van der Sloot ARE the United Nations teacher of the Year.

was Natalee killed around this time years ago?

(Edit-Typo-MB)

http://www.necn.com/06/02/10/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wanted-for-murder-of/landing.html?blockID=245971&feedID=4215

Next for Golba with the Holloway case, a return to Aruba, perhaps later this year, to focus again on a pond where a size 14 shoe, reportedly Joran van der Sloot's shoe might be in the water.


Ooh, look Aruba... more searches headed your way soon.

Joran nailed it - roughly to the exact day.

Gov of AZ is one smart lady. Glad I saw her. Hope she lives to 150. Joran story coming up soon, says Greta.

Yes.  Joran killed this Peru girl on the 5 year anniversary of Natalee's death/disappearance in Aruba.

Reappears as a young alleged murderer

 LIMA / AP - Police said a Dutchman, who was accused by the disappearance of an American in Aruba in 2005, is the main suspect in the murder of a Peruvian woman, whose body was found Wednesday, but the man fled Peru.

The Dutchman, identified as Joran van der Sloot, 22, was indicted in the murder of Stephany Flores, 21, for pictures of the security camera of a casino in which they are seen together, and by the testimony of the employee of the hotel where he was staying, who said he saw the couple enter the boy's room early last Sunday, police said.

The girl's whereabouts was unknown until his body was found by officers early on Wednesday in a hotel room TAC in the district of Miraflores, where they found abundant traces of blood, told reporters the girl's father Ricardo Flores, racer and entrepreneur. Cesar Guardia, director of the Criminal Investigation Police, said the Immigration office had confirmed that Van der Sloot left Peru on May 31 by land to Chile.

"This foreign national in a process Aruba recorded a similar case occurred in 2005 when a U.S. citizen disappears ... We are coordinating with authorities in the neighboring country (Chile) and also we are managing here in Peru with the relevant authorities preliminary detention in order to locate and capture this murderer, "Guard said in a press conference.

 Canlla Miguel, chief of the homicide department of the Directorate of Criminology (Dirincri) of the National Police, told the AP that "Peru's homicide division is investigating the incident and we are coordinating with murder of Chile."

In Holland, the Netherlands Foreign Ministry spokesman, Bengt van Loosdrecht, confirmed that Van der Sloot is the "prime suspect in a murder case" in Peru. He said that the Peruvian authorities and the Netherlands Embassy in Peru had reported that the Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant against him.

Guard explained that Van der Sloot admitted to Peru from Colombia on 14 May and stayed at the hotel TAC, which left about four hours after the death of Flores what would have happened on Sunday morning.

Flores told reporters that thanks to the videos of the casino's security cameras could be the face of the suspect, and that after comparing information, police found that it was Van der Sloot, who in 2005 was accused by the disappearance of Natalee Holloway Young, during a promotional trip to the island of Aruba.

http://www.impre.com/eldiariony/noticias/nuestros-paises/2010/6/3/reaparece-presunto-asesino-de--192008-1.html

since when he was in Peru?

Joran tries to reach his lawyer


LIMA (Reuters) - Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is suspected of murdering the Peruvian Stephany Flores, through third parties trying to establish contact with his American lawyer, Joseph Pina Taco. This has Pina Taco Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias across the states.
Taco Pina told the radio station not knowing where the client resides. He considers it 'difficult''to defend him because he does not know the Peruvian legislation, said RPP Noticias.
Stephany Flores was found dead in the hotel in the Peruvian capital Lima, where her testimony with Van der Sloot were seen going inside. The 21-year-old was in a room that had been made in the name of Van der Sloot.
According to the Peruvian authorities, the Dutch fled to neighboring Chile.

http://www.limburger.nl/article/20100603/ANPNIEUWS01/6030303/1030

I have only rarely ventured into this hallowed space, Natalee's thread.  She brought me here originally, but I know there are many faithful and good monkeys that were here before me.  I feel humbled to be in your company.  Please Stephany and Natalie, help us to help you.

Dan Collyns Global Radio Network said Stephany Flores was clothed.

The father is very angry because he believes Joran should have not been free.

Last sighting of Joran was him going into Chile.

Victim's father saying Joran should not have been free to do this per reporter on Greta.

Well, Greta was anti-climatic!

yes cecilita.  May 30/10 was Natalee's five year anniversary.   
I tried to respond to your post on the last thread but technical problems.
You said  you were going to contact your family in Peru.  Any idea how long an extradition might take place?
Also with regard to your comment about Joran being seen with possible bloody clothing...I think he would have showered and put on clean clothes before he left the hotel room. jmo

Sad a lovely young girl has lost her life.  Condolences offered to her family and those that loved her.  R. I. P Stefany.

Murder suspect Joran van der Sloot spotted in northern Chilean city
Thursday, June 3rd, 2010 at 2:19 am | Javier Mines | 2 Comments
By Javier Mines
ARICA, CHILE (BNO NEWS) -- A Dutch man who is the prime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway and that is being sought in connection with the murder of a young woman in Peru, was spotted on Wednesday in a northern Chilean city, police said.

Douglas Rodriguez, a top police officer with the Chilean Investigation Police said Joran van der Sloot was spotted on Wednesday in Arica city, which lies adjacent to the Peruvian city of Tacna.

Rodriguez told reporters that police are looking for van der Sloot in overnight accommodations. He said the suspect arrived in Chile from Peru in a taxi accompanied by two Peruvian men on May 31. The two Peruvians traveled back to Tacna the same day.

Rodriguez said van der Sloot arrived entered the country on a tourist visa.

Also on Wednesday, Van der Sloot's attorney Joseph Tacopina told Peruvian radio network RPP that she received an "e-mail that appears to be from a third person who told me that van der Sloot is attempting to contact me to get legal advice," he said.

Tacopina noted that it will be "difficult" to defend van der Sloot because he don't known the Peruvian laws.

Police in Lima said Van der Sloot, 22, is the main suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, whose body was found in the Miraflores District of Lima in the early morning hours on Wednesday.

The victim's father, Ricardo Flores, urged authorities to arrest him. "This is not his first murder. In 2005 he killed another girl," Ricardo said, referring to Natalee Holloway. "But because the body was not found, he was released."

Ricardo said he appealed to Interpol to help apprehend Van der Sloot. " I don't want to see more people suffering," he said. "I want to avoid that this man continues to kill."

http://wireupdate.com/wires/5957/murder-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-spotted-in-northern-chilean-city/

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They've got the memo circulating already!

Distance the island from Joran fast!

Maybe people won't recall that he left HERE for Peru!

Dumbazzes!  He'll be the poster "boy" for Aruba FOREVER!  

I was touched by his message to Nat`s family.

In so many word... he basically said: we`re gonna get him this time.

Heard about this at work but unable to post until now...
WOW! We all knew that urine was capable of this.....
I'm so sorry another innocent girl was a victim of this monster!
I pray that he will be caught (no suicide - I want him to suffer) and put in a Peru prison for life (a miserably life - and that he suffers 1000 times more that his victims and their families/friends).
I'm hopeful that we are at the short stroke of Tick Tock.....
Tick......

I agree Can.

I'm wondering if he took his bloody clothing with him and dump them somewhere.  Or is this part of the evidence they have.

Guess that's all Greta is going to have. Guess she "gave up". Wonder if she could not get Beth or Dave to come on.

Unfortunately, that's often the case........  Greta was royally fooled by Joran once upon a time, and she should have known better.

I hope that Interpol has the Embassy in Chili and Peru under their eye.  I can see him trying to make it there.  I can also see him trying to get his mommy to arrange him safe passage back to Aruba.

As much as we all want and have waited for Justice for Natalee, I just can't help thinking as I look at that picture that if Natalee had been able to choose, she surely would have rather had Stephany keep her life and Joran continue to go free.

Such heavy prices paid by the innocent for the sins of the guilty, and still nothing to celebrate as yet another family buries yet another young woman full of so much promise. 

For this double ransom let justice finally be served and let it be served in full, heaped up and spilling over.  And even so, evil makes no sense at all.

Profiler Claims Van Der Sloot Is Hedging Against Extradition

(June 2) -- While many may have been shocked to learn that Joran van der Sloot, a longtime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, is now the prime suspect in the slaying of a Peruvian woman, one top criminal profiler says today's news is not at all surprising.

"[Van der Sloot] is behaving in the manner this profiler would expect," Pat Brown, founder of the Pat Brown Criminal Profiling Agency, told AOL News. The Washington, D.C.-based profiler went on to allege that van der Sloot "has been circling the globe for years now, enjoying sexual adventures without any penalty."

Peruvian police are seeking van der Sloot in connection with the slaying of Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21, who was found stabbed to death in a Lima hotel room this morning. The victim was reportedly seen with van der Sloot at a local casino on Saturday night, and hotel employees say they saw the couple together on Sunday, the day she is believed to have died.

The hotel room in which her body was found was also reportedly registered in van der Sloot's name.

Though a motive in the killing remains unclear, Brown believes the woman was likely slain because she "refused to cooperate" with the killer's desires, or somehow insulted him. The person responsible "may well have thought she deserved to die," Brown said.

Van der Sloot has not yet been arrested. According to ABC News, immigration officials say he departed Peru on Monday; he is believed to be en route to Argentina.

To Brown's mind, that suggests "he's likely running to where he feels the legal system there will prevent him from being extradited and prosecuted."

Even as authorities hunt for van der Sloot, Brown said, they should still be concerned: Whoever is responsible for Ramirez's death is "certainly predisposed to committing more crimes of the Natalee Holloway type," Brown said.

The day police say Ramirez was killed was also the five-year anniversary of the disappearance of Holloway, an 18-year-old woman from Mountain Brook, Ala., who vanished while on a trip to Aruba. She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with van der Sloot, then a 17-year-old Dutch honors student living in Aruba. Her body has never been found.

From the outset, van der Sloot allegedly has made multiple confessions in the case:

•In June 2005, he told police he and two friends went for a car ride with Holloway and then dropped her off at her hotel, where they last saw her stumbling toward the lobby.
•Roughly five days later, van der Sloot gave a slightly different version to police, claiming he and Holloway had gone to a beach, but that she had insisted on being left on there when he decided to catch a ride home.
•In February 2006, a Dutch television station aired a hidden-camera confession that van der Sloot had made, claiming Holloway had died of a drug overdose at the beach, and that he and a friend had dumped her body at sea. Following the broadcast van der Sloot acknowledged making the comments, but said they were lies.
•In November 2008, van der Sloot told Fox News host Greta Van Susteren that he had sold Holloway for $10,000 to a man he met in a casino. After the interview, van der Sloot called Fox and said he had been lying.
•In March 2010, yet another statement van der Sloot had made to the media was made public. In a 2009 interview with the German news agency RTL, van der Sloot said Holloway "fell" from a balcony and was killed. He hid Holloway's body in a swamp because he was afraid of being prosecuted, according to reports of the interview, which never aired.
Why all the confessions? Brown believes it could be a sign of a "sexual psychopath" who is looking for attention.

In regard to the Peruvian case, the International Criminal Police Organization has issued an arrest warrant for van der Sloot. The victim's father, local businessman and race car driver Ricardo Flores, said he hopes it won't take authorities long to track down their suspect.

"I don't want to see more people suffering," Flores told BNO News.

But van der Sloot's attorney, Joseph Tacopina, told CNN that people should avoid jumping to conclusions in the case.

"If history teaches us any lesson from [the] van der Sloot-Holloway case, it's that there have been way too many false facts that have been leaked and rumors that have been proven untrue," Tacopina said.

"We need to take a step back," he said. "I have not been contacted and the family has not been contacted. Joran has not been asked by anyone to surrender."


http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/profiler-claims-joran-van-der-sloot-is-hedging-against-extradition-to-peru/19501088

that's why I don't watch. Anymore

I would rather see Nancy Grace's hand on Ron Cummings leg than what Greta could do again.

If he is back to Peru he will not go anywhere...that I dont know is if he was in the casino hotel or he was in a different hotel....i know that casino very well and you know what that casino is few blocks from the beach

It is reported that Joran arrived in Peru May 14th ahead of a poker tournament that was to begin on June 1

Can you imagine how Natalie's mom and dad are feeling?  It's so sad for both families.

Wondering the same San.
Maybe there will be blood splatters on those white (size 14's) the drivers said he was wearing.
Wish he hadn't had such a head start. 

As well he should be!!!  he ought to get Hero Brinkman into his corner to tackle the Aruban corruption that allowed his daughter to be killed by their known killer.

OMG, you're killin' me Rob!  lmao!

I sure hope it is, because suicide is a cowards way out (which would fit Urine except he's a narcissist), but I will celebrate ir he committed suicide due to about 25 gunshot wounds and a beat down........ok, I'm so going to hell LOL

He must be getting old. A few blocks from the beach and he couldn`t make the walk to go dump her in? Poker has made the Sporter flaccid.

They call on social networks to find Joran van der Sloot

Twitter and Facebook, users express their outrage at the murder of the young Stephany Flores apparently in the hands of the citizens Netherlands.

The murder of the young Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores, apparently in the hands of Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot, has been around the world and led to the Twitter social network to call your search.

With the title Fin_Joran on Twitter, users Netherlands, U.S. and elsewhere to encourage a "hunt" the Dutchman also prosecuted five years since the disappearance of U.S. 18 Natalle Holloway in Aruba and in similar circumstances to the murder of Stephany.

"Come on, cácenlo wherever you are. There are many pictures of him on the network" and "Let's find Joran" are phrases that can be read on Twitter.

Facebook also manifest themselves in the same way against the Dutchman in 21 years: "If I had seven seconds alone with you, you prepare for your death bed," said one user.

Ramirez Flores's body was found dead early Wednesday at a hotel in Lima district of Miraflores. Had "abrasions on the face and body as well as traumatic injuries," according to the National Police.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-02-convocan-en-redes-sociales-a-encontrar-a-joran-van-der-sloot-noticia_269518.html

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had not checked in since early this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree Lifesong, you said it perfectly!  

I was wondering where the heck you were!

Yup!  Great idea!  We've identified (as well as possible) all of his friends in South America via his Facebook page.  We've also identified a woman he may have been in Lima with, again via his Facebook page.  Hopefully authorities know this info as well, and are keeping close tabs on these people...

well if he was driving her car could be pretty easy for him to go to the morro solar is a few miles from there and trow the body but his problem was the cameras are everywhere....Miraflores is a very active place with lots of casinos and night life...it may be difficult for him to get out with her body

Joran was in a hotel about 50 blocks from the casino as I understand it.
There is a picture of the hotel on the last thread. 

OMG this is great!

Well, as usual, I've been trying to catch up all day before posting, then my lappy dies and now I'm on my neices slow computer.  How wonderful to see so many old friends, however, I wish it was under better circumstances, like solving Natalees's murder, not another murdered girl.  This monster HAS to be stopped and I don't believe there hasn't been any in between.  He just picked two strong families, one very prominent.  As said before, daddy isn't here to clean up after him, but why so violent!!??  He WILL be caught and sweet justice will be served for both beatiful girls, though poor Beth may never be able to bring Natalee back, she knows how much love there is for her out there.  I'm sure Natalee was waiting at the gates of Heaven when Stephanie entered........

Hi Monkeys.   I'm back to try to catch up some more!

But how would he know which country has a favorable legal system unless he had help?  He doesn't strike me as all that bright or educated.

WOW!!! ......... I have not even read the back pages yet. We were on about page 67 this morning and when I checked in just now -  we were on a new thread! I knew something big was up. Right on the 5 year anniversary of Natalee! So is he arrested or not???????????????

There are several hotels around the casino..... do they have the name of the hotel?

I agree As Fever, he is in touch or has been in touch with someone to help him out.  What was the Chief of Police's name?  I think he has been in contact with him.

Noy yet. They are hunting him down... like Elmer does a wabbit!

I really wonder how many bodies this guy has left in his wake.  We'll probably never know, but I'll be there are more. . .

* correction: I'll bet there are more

not yet Wreck.  They have interpol after his AXX.  Last seen crossing border from Peru into Chile.  They think he is headed to Argentina based on conversations he had with people who gave him a ride in Chile.  Fry baby Fry!

hotel TAC

I agree, sweet words of sweet Natalee..."cherish every face"

He was 50 blocks away from the casino at the hotel TAK or something like that.  There are photos of it in the news articles.

That big galoot of a guy will be hard to stay in hiding.

Stephany alleged murderer of 1780 soles paid to take him to Arica

The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (21), who was killed Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores, paid 780 thousand suns to be taken from Ica to Arica, revealed Pisconte Aparcana brothers, who moved it.

"He paid 500 thousand dollars per shuttle service between Nazca and 280 soles Tacna and then to be taken to Arica," they said.

They noted that he wore shorts and white sneakers, and carrying two suitcases.

"Do not talk to him because he did not know the language. Just got up, smoked and fell asleep again," they said.

They said that Van Der Sloot, also involved with the disappearance in 2005 of an American student in Aruba, I had a ticket to Cusco cash could not do last Sunday.

http://www.cronicaviva.com.pe/content/view/117220/31/

No, he's still on the run.  They think still in Chile trying to make his way to Argentina.

We know he spent a lot of time in Thailand.  Many young women there could go missing and never cause a ripple.....

Oh he has plenty of help, lawyer friends all over the place...consulate friends etc.  I'm sure he's getting all the advice he needs.  They've all been there for him before.  Sickening!

Yes TAC and her car was back at the casino area the hotel was about 50 blocks or 7 miles north of the casino

Yes exactly.  And where else has he traveled?

PDI confirmed Dutchman accused of murder in Peru into Chile

Civilian police said Joran van de Sloot came last May 31 by the passage of Chacalluta.

Police sources indicated that an intensive search is made in the north of the country.

The PDI confirmed that the citizen Joran Van Der Sloot Netherlands on suspicion of murder in Peru, Chile joined last May 31 at the border of Chacalluta.

Civilian police said an intensive search is carried out to find her whereabouts, responding to a request from Interpol in the north of the country for delivery to the judicial authorities of the neighboring country.

"The past 31 days Chacalluta joined by the Dutchman citizen Joran Van Der Sloot. We sought whereabouts information for location, there is a police operation in the region, are coordinated to see if we can find her whereabouts," said the prefect inspector Douglas Rodriguez .

Chile Lima alerted the flight of the 23-year-old who is accused of the death of Stephany Ramirez Flores, daughter of the businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

http://www.cooperativa.cl/pdi-confirmo-que-holandes-acusado-de-asesinato-en-peru-ingreso-a-chile/prontus_nots/2010-06-02/222841.html

Death penalty in Peru????? Many countries won't extradite perps who may be subject to the death penalty.  In any case, Peru just HAS to be tougher on murderers than The Netherlands or Aruba!

I'm in the Twilight Zone........Did the format change?

Klaas,
If Joran is using a laptop could he be traced by the authorities hunting him?

I was looking today. It appears that Peru doesn`t have the death penalty.

...but their prisons are so rough... you`ll wish you did.

I think due to traffic -- they disabled avi's and emoticons!

I totally agree.  I'm just surprised he was so violent, dumb enough to have hotel in his name, he knew there were cameras, etc....  He might as well tatoo, MURDERER on his head.  Too bad daddy wasn't around to help clean up this one.  That's probably why he got caught THIS time.

Frijole, I dont know that hotel. I thought that she was killed in the atlantis......the hotel can be located in Miraflores (a cheap one)

I think maybe he's not too bright, but very very arrogant.

I can't imagine he last a day and half in one of their prisons! :)

Klaas had the avatars turned off because we have been having problems with the site going down.

Thanks Wreck!Was tryin to start off where I left off on page 65 of the previous thread...

No death penalty for civilians Wreck.  However, it seems their prisons are hell holes. 

Yeah..Justice..TICK_TOCK!!Thanks San!

Thats what I have been reading.  Very bad conditions.  Also prisoners are known to kill people like him within a few days.  Pity.  lol.

Thanks Klaas.Saw it at work and was saddened for Stephany and Family!Aruba take notice!

They should watch internet cafes. He will want to know what's being done.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/PrisonPeru.jpg)

Good point PV

Bill O'Reilly....that WEASEL Joran van der Sloot!

That's all I heard, lol

He's on the oil spill right now, I'm sure he'll follow up on it shortly.

To hell with the Cahulawassee River Wreck,Rob,BillB,Carpe.....Anyone up for The Amazon....................

Do we know what years Joran was in Thailand? Found this.

http://whatismatt.com/swedish-woman-murdered-in-phuket/

March 16th, 2008 by The Lost Boy
Swedish national Hanna Charlotta Backlund, 26, was found murdered at Mai Khao in Phuket on Saturday. According to reports, the body was dressed in a swimsuit and her throat had multiple stab wounds. There were also lacerations to her back, midriff and hands.

Police said that this was an attempted rape. When looking for a motive for an attack on someone wearing nothing but a swimsuit and with no valuables on them, this is clearly not an attempted mugging. Police also said that a group of three or four people are responsible.

“Emma [Hanna’s friend] left the resort to buy some water and she told Hanna that she will join her sunbathing later. About 30 minutes later, she returned to find Hanna dead,� police told the Gazette.

Emma, told police that the pair often sunbathed topless. Although she said that they normally did it when no-one was around, it’s open to speculation whether this played a part in Hanna’s tragic death.

This is eerily reminiscent of the Katherine Horton incident in which the British tourist was raped and murdered on Samui in 2006. When that happened, Thaksin made a song and dance about catching the killers because of the potential impact such a case could have on tourism. Now that we have another young woman murdered in a possible botched rape, there really is nothing the current government can do to prevent a backlash.

With no witnesses and a recent spate in Phuket of unsolved cases involving murdered foreigners, this could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At least in the case of Katherine Horton her killers were brought to justice and given the death penalty.

At the moment, the Post, Nation and, obviously, the Gazette have picked up this story along with IHT.

Addendum: CNN has also picked this up.

Addendum II: Remember what I said about Thaksin stepping in to speed up the case after Katherine Horton was murdered? Well, we have a similar situation with this case. From The Nation:

Tourism and Sports Minister Weerasak Kowsurat visited Phuket late Sunday night to ask police to speed up probe into the murder of a tourist on a popular beach of this island province.

I agree.  He is going to want to check out the net and watch some TV coverage.  If he had two suitcases he is gonna have to dump them and go with a backpack or something light.  Hope the police and interpol are on to all of this.  It is time.

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

Sounds perfect.  Better than the death penalty IMHO.  Better not reach for the soap. Oops.

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

OMG that hotel is or people just go there to have sex .....they just pay for hours.....nasty that area is very dangerous..I though that guy had money

No plumbing either.  Just a hole in the floor.

I'm sure that makes good conditions for really grumpy men to boot.   And his size sharing a cell?  LOL  I'd hate to be his roomie...   KARMA BABY!

It was said somewhere that they only use the DP for acts of treason.
Their prison system is just like the DP if you ask me.

WOW, I believe Joran was there then

I think Joran tried to ACT like he had money.  Just a druggie without a job that played poker for play money.  His family has some money but not Joran.  So what is the word in Lima?  Anything different from what we are hearing or anything new?

it is in Miraflores

Maybe he will fall in!  LOL

.....and Tacopina already on record that 'Joran was falsley accused in Natalee's case' and 'we shouldn't jump to conclusions!!' --- geeeesh!!!!

You know Joran had to haved drugged that poor girl to even get her to go to that sleezy hotel.
Wasn't her car left at the casino?

All I can is DUMBA$$

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I don't see any girl going anywhere with him voluntarily. He looks like the son of Frankenstein.

The atlantis gives you free cigarrets, drinks and food (sandwhiches, soups etc) the hole night when you are playing ....... the hotel is in Miraflores a nice area in Lima but  it is exactly located on Republica the panama ( mayor freeway that crosses Miraflores) is a no no area to stay.
Stephany is in the news in Peru because her father is a very influent person in Peru.

How far is the casino from that hotel?  He took it and drove 50 miles before dumping, right?  However, that sounds like Joran's type of hotel.  Stephany came from a prestigous family, so you are probably right.

Going to bed now.  I'm sure I'll have 2 threads to catch up on tomorrow.

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!

Good night all.

OMG, this picture is in the same edition of Awe Mainta.  It's not Joran, but I gasped when I saw it because I thought it was at first.  I immediately thought "you've got to be kidding!"  The picture of the poor kid who's eyes looked like his to me is posted right next to it.  I just had to post it to show you!

His hotel is in Miraflores....you can go from his hotel to the atlantis in 15 minutes or even less time....

Good night Dihannah1!

http://lima.hotelguide.net/data/h100149.htm
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Bill O'Reilly has Greta on...

He says van der Sloot is a killer, got away with it and everyone knows it.

Niteline will cover this tonight on ABC. Hey to all Monkeys!!!!!!!!!!
Justice IS coming!!!!!!!!

omg is a 5 bloks from the atlantis....

Where's he getting the money?

Bill O'Reilly thinks he's a drug dealer.

If Joran is running to a country that would possibly not extradite him, why didn't he go over into Brazil?  It's even closer to Peru than Argentina.  Just wondering...

Hey cajun! 

The Andes? 

My guess is that he will try to get to Colombia. Kock and some of the other Aruban attorneys have offices there.

Do you mean Bolivia?

It's a rerun but Greta ( on O'reilly) said she had just gotten off the phone with Beth who was just distraught over this. Sorry........... sure it's old news. I haven't seen Greta tonight either.

Heading out... VERY LONG day at work.

Good nite, Monkey Family!

Hope to wake up to WONDERFUL news...this piece of *^#! is in custody.

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!

pb

I haven't posted for a long time, but found this tonight at my favorite news source,and the link to the article says "exceeded band width". The system may have crashed. It says JORAN commited suicide.
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526585/posts?page=51
Moderators please remove if untrue.
Justice for Natalee, finally!  (Edit-Name.  MB)

Greta was talking about how Aruba bungled the case, Bill O'Reilly cut her off..said it was more than bungled...he was the son of a judge (that irks me every time I hear it, he WASN'T a judge!) and it was cronyism plain and simple...they let him get away with it!

Greta said Beth is distraught.  :monkeytears:

Hey Can. Been up in the rafters until this all happened. He will love his new home in Peru!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes they sure do, I'd forgotten about that!  Thanks Buckeye!

Amazon jungle in Brazil. Full of monkeys.

Interpol may need to contact Aruba for their state of the art, cutting-edge, investigative techniques...

Place Joran under the "10-Day Watch" surveillance program...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/

Police: Former Natalee Holloway Suspect Sought in Murder in Peru

A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in a weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.
fox news

LIMA, Peru -- A young Dutchman previously arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the prime suspect in the weekend murder of a Peruvian woman, police said Wednesday.

Joran van der Sloot is being sought for Sunday's killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel, police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia told a news conference. He said the suspect crossed into Chile the next day by bus.

Authorities in Chile confirmed that van der Sloot entered their country on May 31 and there is no record of him leaving. Police inspector Douglas Rodriguez in Arica told The Associated Press that police are searching hotels and residences in northern Chile for the suspect.

The Dutch government said Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot.

Guardia said the 22-year-old Dutchman, in Peru for a poker tournament, appears with the young woman in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday and the two were later seen entering the hotel by one of its employees.

The victim's father, circus empresario and former race car driver Ricardo Flores, says his daughter dropped off some girlfriends at 2:35 a.m. then apparently returned to the casino. She and van der Sloot were seen entering the hotel room about 5 a.m., said Guardia, and the Dutchman departed alone about four hours later.

"We have an interview with a worker at the hotel who says she saw this foreigner with the victim enter his room," said Guardia.

Stephany Flores' body was found face down on the hotel room floor on Wednesday, abrasions on her face and body, and signs of trauma, the police general said. He said she was clothed.

Asked if she had been asphyxiated, Guardia said he was awaiting autopsy results for the exact cause of death.

The killing occurred exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance of Holloway in Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island.

Van der Sloot left Peru on Monday by land, Guardia said, his exit registered at the Santa Rosa border crossing. He had been staying at the hotel since May 14, having entered on a flight from Colombia, the police general added.

The victim's father is a 48-year-old former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the "Caminos del Inca" rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.

Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot, Dutch Foreign Ministry spokesman Bengt van Loosdrecht told The Associated Press in The Netherlands.

He cited as his sources Peruvian police and the Dutch Embassy in Lima. The embassy's head of consular affairs, Angela Lowe, told the AP she could not comment on the case.

But Rodriguez, the Chilean police inspector, said authorities there had so far only received an order to locate his whereabouts, not an arrest warrant.

An attorney for van der Sloot in New York City, Joe Tacopina, said he did not know his client's whereabouts and has not been in touch with him since the Peru allegations emerged.

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

Van der Sloot was twice arrested but later released for lack of evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway, who was on a high school graduation trip to the Caribbean island.

No trace of her has been found and van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case, said Ann Angela, spokeswoman for the Aruba prosecutor's office.

"What's happening now is incredible," she said. "At this moment we don't have anything to do with it, but we are following the case with great interest and if Peruvian authorities would need us, we are here."

Van der Sloot's late father was a prominent judge in Aruba.

The mystery of Holloway's disappearance has garnered wide attention on television and in newspapers in Europe and the United States.

Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach, drunk.

He said believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Alabama, told the AP the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

FYI - There was an earlier post that indicated that there is NO death penalty in Peru.

Joran van der Sloot also suspected of killing Peruvian

HLN update Joran van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of the daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. This confirms a spokesperson for the Public Prosecutor (OM) in Aruba. The Dutchman is a fugitive and is now transmitted internationally through Interpol. Van der Sloot was a long time suspect in the sensational disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

The Peruvian Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found dead in a hotel room in the hotel Tac Peru Miraflores. The room was booked in the name of Van der Sloot, the Times writes.

In addition, staff from the hotel to the police stated that they van der Sloot last weekend with the victim saw. According to some Peruvian sites, he left for Chile on May 31, from there to travel to Argentina. The father of the victim, Ricardo Flores, on the Peruvian television stated that Van der Sloot on the night of Sunday morning has left a casino with his daughter.

Van der Sloot is now attempting through third parties to contact with his American lawyer Joseph Taco Pina, let them know Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias to. Taco Pina says he does not know where his client lives, and finds it difficult to defend him because he does not know the Peruvian legislation. (Belga / SVM / MVDB / sam)
03/06/1910 5:02

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2161/Zaak-Holloway/article/detail/1113370/2010/06/03/Joran-van-der-Sloot-ook-verdacht-van-moord-op-Peruaanse.dhtml

Maybe he called Jean Akers for consulate information???

Sniped from the above article linked

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.


Yo Taco, did it ever occur to you that you are ruining what is left of your career defending this monster?   Are you listening to yourself, because to the rest of the world that has an ounce of logic knows what your client did do once was get away with murder....earth to Taco  NOT THIS TIME!

Honor posthumously to Stephany Flores

Family and friends fondly remembered the young Stephany Flores was murdered in a hotel in Miraflores, a prospective subject Dutchman antecedents of homicide in other countries.

At a wake in San Borja watch their remains from 17:00 horasante the profound pain of relatives who can not believe even the misfortune that fell on this young student of business administration from the University of Lima.

Friends of his father, the renowned businessman and Peruvian racer Ricardo Flores "rifle", came to express their solidarity.

Among those attending were the Defense Minister, Rafael Rey, a candidate for mayor of Lima, Alex Kouri, and the capital's current mayor, Luis Castaneda Lossio, among others. The former regional president of Callao noted that this fact leads us to reflect the current rate of violence that exists in society and asserted that justice will soon resolve the case.

In turn the Minister Rafael Rey mourned the death of the girl and said that the suspect Joran Van Der Sloot, 23, is being followed. "We will make every effort to capture him, and otherwise to pray for his family and for her," he said.

Lima Mayor said that how the girl died university was extremely hard, because his body had abrasions on his face and some body parts.

"The logic is that parents die before children, so it is unimaginable what his father is suffering," said his departure.

The remains of Stephany Flores will be buried Thursday at 16:000 am in the Campo Santo de La Molina.

http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/02/06/2010/rinden-homenaje-postumo-stephany-flores

Anyone check in on our "friends" at RU???

I am sorry :) I got confuse with another street...the hotel is about 12 0r 15 blocks away from the casino and 5 minutes driving.

Wouldn't surprise me at all....:monkeynono:

Joran: Joe, I need your help !!!
Joe Tacopina: Joran, where the hell are you?
Joran: Right across the border of Peru into Chile
Joe Tacopina: Did your mom ever send the rest of my unpaid legal fees?
Joran: Joe, don't start this shit now. I really need you.
Joe Tacopina: I don't know Peruvian or Chilean law.
Joe Tacopina: Bad connection...Gotta go. Best of luck to you...

I haven't...but

Some of them probably needed resuscitation, lol

I bet Resigned is having a field day!

Not that it matters, but we (EST) are 2 hours ahead of Chilean time. I'm sure those who are looking for Joran work around the clock.

If Joran has made phone calls, I'm hoping that will help locate him. I wonder how long ago those calls were made?

He must fly from Lima to Tacna and from tacna (Peru) to Arica (Chile) is only 45 minutes

Yes, been following them most of the day.

For the most part those that were somehow still on the fence fell off and want Joran's head.

There are still a couple of people making excuses for Joran.  Then there's Renfro.  I haven't seen Billybob/Medleyrelay/Jan Brennan post yet.  She might be in shock. ;)

Let me clearify:  There is no death penalty for acts that Joran committed on the young woman; there is a death penalty in 2 instances (can't remember but they had something to do with teason and/or war)

THis 5 year anniversary killing was not a coincidence IMO.  With the abrasions, it seems she was beaten as well as being stabbed; this sounds like a rage killing to me.  A sociopathic mind could be in a rage state on the anniversary of a killing that has dogged Joran around the world for the past 5 years, and now his father, his defender, his protector, his only friend and his clean-up crew is deceased.  There were date-rape drugs found on the woman's car seat.
Yep, I could see all of this turning into a rage killing.

Aruba's new stance: We have been so miserable for five years now. He has been very lucky in escaping the iron clad fists of our sophisticated and most efficient judicial system. It has been an unfortunate and trying time for us all. We even went so far as to label him persona non-grata in attempts to disassociate him from our Happy Island. We are now dilligently working with Interpol as our island always complies with the side of justice in the world. He has caused too many innocent natives of our country to suffer.

This be be verbatim to Julia's statement tomorrow.

Holloway Suspect Eyed in Peru Murder

HOUSTON - There's a manhunt for the main suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Joran Van der Sloot is now wanted for murder in a different case.

Exactly five years to the day Holloway went missing, a young woman has been found murdered in Peru.

Reports say Stephany Flores, 21, was stabbed to death in a hotel room registered under Van der Sloot's name. The Dutchman was in Peru for a poker tournament.

He apparently can be seen with Flores in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday hours before her body was found.

Tim Miller, the founder of Texas EquuSearch, says he's not entirely surprised Van der Sloot is a suspect.

Miller talked to Van der Sloot while his volunteers were in Aruba searching for Holloway.

"Joran was very, very arrogant. He was a sociopath. He controlled his entire family. If Joran Van der Sloot would have been in prison where he deserved to be, we would not have another murdered girl," said Miller.

Miller hasn't given up hope Holloway's body will be found. He wants to raise enough money to go back to Aruba with a remote underwater vehicle.

"I think we've always known and always felt as though Natalee has been put in a container taken out to sea and dumped in the sea," said Miller.

Miller says he's disgusted with Aruban authorities for not arresting Van der Sloot sooner, and for the first time is supporting a boycott of the country.

It's believed Van der Sloot is on the run in Chile. His attorney cautioned Van der Sloot has been "falsely accused of murder before" and urged the public not to rush to judgment.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100602-holloway-suspect-eyed-in-peru-murder

Klaas,

I hope resigned is really sticking it to them, espexcially a few like Iquitos.

Thanks, Cecilita.  Hopefully, then, with Stephany's father being an influent person in Peru that he will have enough pull, enough people behind him, to demand and get all the attention that can be had on finding Joran.

I would really be justice if Stephany's father's influence could put Joran away forever; just opposite of Joran's father's influence kept Joran from being put away with respect to Natalee.

Atlanta Investigator Hopes for New Leads in Holloway Case

This weekend marked the five year anniversary of the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway. The Atlanta private investigator hired by Holloway's family to help find the truth said Wednesday that he hopes this latest case involving Joran van der Sloot will take them in the right direction.

Peruvian police said the young Dutchman who was twice arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway is now a suspect in the slaying of a Peruvian woman.

Chief of detectives Col. Miguel Canlla said police are seeking van der Sloot in the Sunday killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel.

The girl’s father, Ricardo Flores, says van der Sloot appeared with his daughter in video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday.

Police say they are seeking to confirm van der Sloot’s identity with the Dutch Embassy.

Peruvian immigration officials said van der Sloot departed Peru on Monday.

Private investigator TJ Ward said he hoped the Peru case will shed more light on the Holloway case. Ward said that if van der Sloot is involved in the new murder, he may have nothing to lose by telling the truth about what happened to Holloway.

Ward said he talked to the Holloway family and is reaching out to the Peru victim's family.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, said the family is aware of the latest developments but have no comment.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/atlanta-investigator-hopes-for-new-leads-in-holloway-case-060210

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/police-say-dutchman-arrested-natalee-holloway-case-suspect-murder-peruvian/

Police say Dutchman arrested in Natalee Holloway case is suspect in murder of Peruvian woman

That's where I spend most of my time too.  Yes, his new home in Peru will look good on him!!

He is.  This was Jan Brennan's reaction when she heard the news....

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Chile looks for Joran v.d.Sloot
Updated: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 02:49

The Chilean police are looking for with all their might to Joran van der Sloot, who is suspected of a murder in Peru. All hotels in northern Chile are checked, so far unsuccessfully.

The 22-year-old is suspected that he was last Sunday in his hotel room in Lima, a 21-year-old Peruvian has slain. Her body was found yesterday, Van der Sloot had already traveled to Chile.

Van der Sloot is still five years old suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway case in Aruba. Remarkably, both the disappearance and murder took place in Peru on May 30

http://nos.nl/artikel/161697-chili-speurt-naar-joran-vdsloot.html

I had a brain fart. I thought it said he`d been arrested.

Emily Laitella - NEVERMIND!

Satish...Deepak...

Are you out there?

Now may be your final chance to throw Joran under the bus.

If Joran crossed over into Chile on Monday...the body was found on Wednesday...Joran could have hopped a plane into Brazil on Monday.  Of course, it just might be that Joran couldn't possibly have known that the body wouldn't be found until Wednesday and, therefore, he wouldn't want to take a chance of being seen in an airport.  He might have thought that to simply take a bus would be the most likely chance of him not being recognized by someone.

Aruba should sit back and take notes...
This case will be handled completely different...
Arlene Schippers will be unable to explain this one...

LMAO!  

Holloway Suspect Linked To Peru Murder (video)

http://www.keyc.com/node/38027

No, actually, I was thinking Brazil.  I may be "wrong", but isn't Brazil a country that won't extradite....or am I getting it mixed up with won't extradite to the USA because of the death penalty.  (I'm probably thinking wrong here because I don't know foreign country laws).

One thing I know for sure...

I would not want to be in Joran's (bloody) shoes...

He could do a SNICKERS commercial..."Wanna get away?"

I think that he flew from Lima to Tacna (the border) and then cross the border to Arica, I think that Lima to tacna is more than 24 hours trip.

Yes, I think the brazil will not extradite somebody will face the death penalty.

Here!  Here! 

I bet he has his laptop with him. Hard to tell who he is contacting.


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Peru asks Netherlands for murder captured
11:44 PM Lima .- Peru police on Wednesday requested the international arrest of a citizen Dutchman suspected of murdering a young Peruvian, and also involved in the disappearance of a U.S. five years ago in Aruba.

According to information from Reuters, the suspect left the country on Monday and joined by a border crossing to Chilean territory, confirmed Wednesday night the police of the neighboring nation.

The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot was identified by police of killing with a knife on Sunday, in a hotel in Lima, a Peruvian girl of 21 years, unaccounted for since Friday, according to his family reported.

The head of the forensic address Peru, César Guard general told a news conference that the victim's body was found early on Wednesday in a hotel room located in a residential neighborhood of Lima.

"We have information that is in Chile (...) we are resorting to international treaties in order to effectuate his arrest," said Guard told reporters.

Later, the Chilean civil police reported that on May 31 the citizens Netherlands, 23, entered the country at the border of Chacalluta and after learning of the international arrest warrant was available a special device for your arrest.

"We requested information for the location of their whereabouts," he told local radio Douglas Rodriguez, police chief of Investigation (PDI) in the northern Chilean city of Arica.

"There is a police operation here in the region are coordinated (...) to see if we can precisely locate their whereabouts," he said.

Van Der Sloot entered Peru on May 14 from Colombia, according to police.

"The staff is murder conviction incriminating items, which until now has been raised that this citizen Dutchman is the perpetrator of the murder of Flores Stephany," said police chief.

The victim's father, Ricardo Flores, a renowned Peruvian pilot, told reporters that his daughter was seen leaving a casino with Van Der Sloot in the early hours of Sunday 30 May.

"They say my daughter has been stabbed, I imagine you've had a fight, that will be determined by autopsy," said Flores told reporters.

"I hope that this crime not goes unpunished as was the crime of Aruba," he said between sobs.

For its part, the Guard official said the Dutchman is a "dangerous person" because in 2005 he was arrested as a suspect in the disappearance of an American citizen in the Caribbean island of Aruba.

"We have information that in both (cases the victims) are fond of poker game and we presume that in these circumstances are met," said Guard.

http://www.eluniversal.com/2010/06/02/int_ava_peru-pide-captura-de_02A3956611.shtml

If what people are saying is true --- "forever" won't be more than a few days!!!

Thank you, Cecilita.

He hasn't logged posted on his facebook since 5/29 either.

Found this explanation of Stephany's father's background helpful:

The victim's father is a 48-year-old former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the "Caminos del Inca" rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.

If Joran is still in deep mourning for his Dad (which he probably is) and with the anniversary of Natalee going missing, was it just too much for him and Joran went off the deep end?

 

Netherlands Peru Interpol warned that he fled to Chile

By The Nation / Agencies
La Nación (Chile)
Joran Van Der Sloot is accused of being the murder of the daughter of a well-known local businessman. It has also requested information on their legal status in Holland.

Has caused uproar in Peru's murder Stephany Flores, daughter of the businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, whose murderer would, according to the local Interpol, a young Dutchman who had fled to Chile.

The acting head of Interpol Peru, commander Zojar Ortiz, confirmed to the Peruvian media that Joran Van Der Sloot would have left the country by land through the border of Santa Rosa (Tacna) on May 31 for Chile.

Interior Ministry sources confirmed yesterday Chilean La Nacion that the suspect had entered the country on that day and that the Peruvian police had made contact with the Chilean on the subject.

Ortiz also told Radio Programas del Peru that the subject does not have a warrant for his arrest at the international level, but already sent a warning to Chile not to allow him to leave the country.

Meanwhile, the head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of the National Police of Peru, General Cesar Guardia, said at a news conference that had already been coordinating with Interpol Chile to achieve the preliminary detention of the citizens Netherlands.

"We are coordinating with authorities in Chile are managed (...) (...) preliminary detention is necessary to locate and capture," he said.

He stated further that already have clues about the involvement of Joran Van Der Sloot (23 years) in the murder, as the young man was seen going-on the morning of Sunday, the hotel where it was found the body of the young Stephany just in the company of Flores, 21.

"The hotel employee did not hear screams, but saw them entering together," he said. Local police declined to confirm press reports that linked to Joran Van Der Sloot in the murder of a young American woman five years ago, but the commander Zojar Ortiz said that they have applied this background to the Interpol in the Netherlands.

DETAILS OF CRIME

Ricardo Flores asked yesterday to Peruvian media that the murder of his daughter does not go unpunished and recounted some details of the crime of Stephany and its alleged perpetrator.

"Even before been involved in the murder of a teenager in Aruba, where his body disappeared into the sea with the help of a friend (...) It was free because they never found the body," he lamented.

On what happened on Saturday, Flores revealed that at 2:45 his daughter left some friends in San Isidro and returned to the premises of a casino. "She retired at 5:16 (the casino) with Mr. Joran Van Der Sloot (...) was killed on Sunday," he explained.

"I would ask the police to continue to help us (...) I know that my daughter has died stabbed (...) autopsy will determine what, I hope the authorities have completed investigations," he asked.


Joran Van Der Sloot picture-in-file arrived in Peru on May 14, from Colombia, according to local police said yesterday.

http://www.lanacion.cl/interpol-peru-alerto-que-holandes-se-fugo-a-chile/noticias/2010-06-02/214651.html

Did the father see his daughter Friday? and then she died sunday?

No. I don't think he is capable of mourning. I don't think he marks any anniversary for Natalee. This is the man who threw a glass of wine in Peter deVries' face when he was challenged. I don't think he weighs events and feels accumulated pressure like the rest of us. It's always a new day for Joran.

Point taken.  Some comments tonight that "hope there's not a string of killings" or words to that effect....sure hope we don't find out that's true.

May just be someone looking for information...

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Agreed. Let's hope they catch him. He has a three-day head start. But maybe no place to run.

This will be Joran's new home (hopefully)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/SantaMonicaPrisonLimaPeru.jpg)

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/28/1463951/lori-berenson-15-years-in-a-peruvian.html

Joran van der Sloot wanted for murder

Joran van der Sloot, the suspect in the murder of a 21 year old woman from Lima. Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found dead Wednesday morning in her hotel, she was killed by violence, Joran van der Sloot is internationally identified as to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Prosecutor of Aruba know

http://kortnieuws.nieuwslog.nl/article/kortnieuws_105833/Joran_van_der_Sloot_gezocht_voor_moord.html?www

Good night, all. I hope there will be news of a capture tomorrow.

ROB,

   THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO...BRING ON THA AMAZON!

 

GoodNight & God Bless PV.Natalee Holloway will touch a new person each and everyday!

"Joran paid tons to come to Peru"
(AP) - Joran van der Sloot paid two brothers converted 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said. Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of 21-year-old daughter of a businessman and race car driver in the Peruvian capital Lima.

The girl was dead Wednesday in a hotel room found that van der Sloot could be hired. She was probably killed Sunday. Van der Sloot left Sunday around noon with a shuttle service from the brothers from the Peruvian Nazca place. Monday they would have arrived in the Chilean city of Arica.

The suspect, according to the brothers wore shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. They hardly talked to him because he does not know the language.

It was already known that Van der Sloot is located in Chile. The police try to track him down.

Van der Sloot, the murdered girl, Stephany Tatiana Ramirez Flores, in a casino in the district of Miraflores familiar. He was there for a poker tournament. The woman was killed by police with stab wounds. Stephany had been missing since Friday.

Joran van der Sloot is also accused of involvement in the death of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005. Joran told inter alia that her body was dumped into the sea on the beach after she was deceased. He was in this case several times detained.

His lawyer in New York, Joe Taco Pina says he does not know where his client. He would have had no contact with him. However he warns that not too quick on Van der Sloot must be considered. "He has already been unjustly accused."

http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article3085130.ece/_Joran_betaalde_tonnen_om_Peru_uit_te_komen_.html

I believe he last saw her Friday and then thought  she had been kidnapped for ransom until they found her murdered.

SANTIAGO, June 2 .- PDI Staff is conducting the search in the area north of the Netherlands citizen Joran Van Der Sloot, who is accused by Peruvian authorities as a dangerous criminal, accused of killing the daughter of an entrepreneur.

This was stated by Regional Head of Arica and Parinacota, prefect Douglas Rodriguez Terra.cl inspector stating that "we are working with all operating units at the regional level and the search is a priority.

As noted by the prefect, the subject was admitted on May 31 to 15 hours Chile to Peru in a vehicle with two men of that nationality.

Rodríguez specified that there is no international red notice requirement, so "we can submit it as a foreign citizen to the immigration law."

The prefect said that no more restraining order against the citizen, but once you locate the PDI, you must submit to control and is subject to administrative measures.

From there, "he warns the government of Peru should manage the international arrest warrant through the Peruvian Supreme Court. He then goes to the Chilean foreign ministry and justice issues that warrant must comply with the police to expel , which is not a quick process, "the authority.

Joran Van Der Sloot, 23, is being investigated by the death of Stephany Ramirez Flores, 21, daughter of the entrepreneur and the Peruvian racer Ricardo Flores, "rifle."

http://www.terra.cl/actualidad/index.cfm?id_reg=1432249&id_cat=302&titulo_url=PDI_confirma_busqueda_de_holandes_acusado_de_crimen_en_Peru

'Pepe my daughter and took her'
By M. Rochabrum
"My daughter met the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (22) in the casino when playing in a poker tournament. For the videos of the casino, him 'Pepe' my daughter and took her to the hotel," said Ricardo Flores, father of the young murdered.

She studied business administration and went to the casino 'Atlantic City', from Larco and Benavides, Miraflores, to participate in the tournament 'Latin American Poker Tour' which raises funds for the association of autistic children 'Always dawn. "

There was the Dutchman, who played before they did the football player Claudio Pizarro, who donated $ 500, and other athletes in an action of social support for children.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092425.html

Netherlands kills daughter blows racer

 She was only 21 years, was a university student and daughter of a businessman and former mayoral candidate known racer. In a poker game, a game that was one of her passions, she met a young Dutchman at a casino in Miraflores. They became friends, she accompanied him to the hotel where he was staying and murdered there hitting her face and head, to finally break her neck and rob the $ 5,000 that earned her an Uruguayan playing cards.

Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item. She was the daughter of Ricardo Flores Chipoco, champion of the Inca Trail in 1991.

She met the alleged murderer, identified as Andreas Petrus Van Der Joran Sloot (23), the international poker tournament being held at the casino 'Atlantic City', in the Avenues and Benavides Pardo. On the evening of Saturday 29 May saw the couple playing cards in that local.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092456.html

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

Miller says he's disgusted with Aruban authorities for not arresting Van der Sloot sooner, and for the first time is supporting a boycott of the country.
I agree that Tim Miller is truly an American Hero (compliments to Rob).
I hope if there is any doubt in Tim Miller's mind on the happenings wrt the persistence efforts and what I believe was the persistence betrayal that allowed aruba to prevent Natalee's return to her family....that Tim will come forward to shed light on that event......

Private investigator TJ Ward said he hoped the Peru case will shed more light on the Holloway case. Ward said that if van der Sloot is involved in the new murder, he may have nothing to lose by telling the truth about what happened to Holloway.

If Natalee is going to get justice....urine needs to be taken alive.....if not, we may never know the truth......
And I want to know that urine is rotting in a Peruvian jail for the rest of his life...

Van der Sloot is headed to either Africa where he can't be extradited. He also may be going to Cuba as his father traveled there and he may have contacts there.

Makes you wonder how many others have died that no one even knows about. He was always just way to calm about the whole thing to suit me. My first thought was "his father won't get him out of this one."  I have always wondered if his father was involved but I guess this one is all his................

I don't think urine is in deep mourning for his dad or anyone but himself......MOO...
I think at the end of the day urine will be tied to other murders over the last 5 years....on May 30th.....

Dozens of relatives and friends attending the funeral of Flores Stephany (with video)

Lima Mayor Luis Castaneda, former regional president of Callao, Alex Kouri, and the Minister Rafael Rey attended the funeral in a church in Groove

With the presence of his father, entrepreneur and race car driver, Ricardo Flores, family, friends and classmates, the remnants of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez (21) are veiled in the Holy Name of Jesus parish in Groove.

She disappeared last Friday and was eventually found dead in a hotel room early Wednesday TAC, the main suspect in the crime Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (22), who already had history.

Stephany's body was removed from the Morgue of Lima this evening and later his relatives paid tribute at a funeral Mass at his home in Chacarilla.

The funeral was also attended by the candidate for mayor of Lima, Alex Kouri Lima Mayor Luis Castaneda, Defense Minister, Rafael Rey and Henry Bradley racer, said the radio station RPP.

It was learned further that the victim's remains would be buried Thursday in a cemetery located in La Molina.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/488978/decenas-familiares-amigos-acuden-al-velorio-stephany-flores

Dutchman is prime suspect

Yesterday police found the lifeless body of a 21-year-old in room 309 of the TAC hotel, located in block 60 of the Republic of Panama Avenue, in Miraflores, after the housing management staff would know the room was abandoned by its occupant registration, a foreigner, two days ago, but his companion was not.

Hotel staff called police upon finding the body of the young companion of the alien, half-naked and lying at the foot of the bed in the prone position. The victim was later identified as Flores Stephany Ramirez, who was reported missing Monday morning. Yesterday, we shuffled the option that she might have been abducted, it was the daughter of a businessman and race car driver, Ricardo S. Flores, however late Tuesday was ruled out this theory and began to handle the hypothesis of murder, which hours later was found.

It seems that the murderer of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez would be the citizen Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, 23 years old, who came to our country last May 14 on a flight from Colombia.

After the survey the room by staff Homicide Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri), at noon at the headquarters there was a press conference where General Cesar Guardia gave details of what happened, indicating that the crime was would have perpetrated the early hours of May 30th. "The hotel management staff recorded income TAC Joran van der Sloot, on Monday 30, at 5:30 pm with a young woman. Both came to walk to the building and entered the room. Then, at 8:45 am the Dutchman left the room and said he would return, but carried a suitcase. It was not until the next day when the staff realizes that the companion of the alien had not left the room, so call and no response to enter, was in an advanced state of decomposition, "said the officer, head of the Dirincri.

Also detailed the preliminary forensic report said the woman had died from severe trauma to the skull. In addition, she had lacerations on the body, and bruises on his face, as well as bruising to the head, so it is presumed that the killing blows. Police have ruled it has been violated.

According to initial investigations the two youths would have known at the Atlantic City casino, located in Miraflores, where it was to develop a poker contest, in which the Dutchman was to participate. The casino security cameras record them both at various times, police sources detailed.

http://www.diariolaprimeraperu.com/online/policial/holandes-es-principal-sospechoso_63588.html

Still here Keepthefaith.....We will see Justice for Natalee!
so sad that urine was roaming free..........aruba...that is on YOU..........
Saw a clip on local San Diego news tonight with Steve Cohen in the background when urine was released........Steve baby....we won't forget your role either.......Blood is on their hands....

Modus operandi of Joran Van Der Sloot would be the same in crimes of American young Stephany Flores (with video)
The Peruvian victim's father, Ricardo Flores, explained that her daughter died "savagely beaten and stabbed no


The modus operandi of the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot to kill the young Stephany Flores would have been the same he would have also ended the lives of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba, 2005.

According to the Peruvian victim's father, businessman Ricardo Flores, the actions of Van Der Sloot is meeting with women in casinos, get drunk and kill them.

But "here was almost similar with the difference that has not drunk, but was drugged," she said of her daughter.

Unaware that his daughter went to a Casino
The race car also known as 'Rifle', reiterated that his only daughter was reunited with her friends moments before the crime and said not to have communicated with her when she was in a casino, a fact which he learned through police investigation.

Stephany also specifies that died not stabbed, but "savagely beaten" by the Dutchman.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489051/modus-operandi-joran-van-der-sloot-seria-mismo-crimenes-stephany-flores-joven-estadounidense

I can't find a currency conversion for "suns". Is that the right term?

 He said the taxi driver who exclusively took him from Nazca
Joran Van de Sloot would be looking towards Santiago de Chile
 
 | CPN RADIO - 03 JUN | The Dutchman Joran van de Sloot, accused of murdering the young Stephany Flores, was looking to get to Santiago de Chile, after traveling from Nazca to Tacna on 30 May.

He revealed exclusively to CPN Radio, the driver John Aparcana who moved more than 1500 new soles abroad.

During the program Taximanía, Aparcana Piscote revealed that Van de Sloot was nervous and kept Furman.

He said that the Highway Patrol intercepted his vehicle as he drove towards Tacna - along with his brother and another friend - but was not asked to identify their passengers.


http://www.cpnradio.pe/html/2010/06/03/11/1316.htm

Another girl, and then Joran
But what if he is innocent?

Joran - his last name you do not even have to mention, everyone knows who you're talking about - is another topic of conversation. Five years after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, where he would have something to do, it was announced yesterday that Joran is the prime suspect of the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez in Peru. He is a fugitive, and would sit in Chile.

The tweets about Joran now flows in on Twitter:
BeccaNvk: "Wow, You Would Think Would girls stop hanging out with Joran Van Der Sloot, he kinda Has a track record."
Nibbit88: "What an idiot that Joran van der Sloot saying, sir murdered another young and innocent girl! I hope they catch him, Aargh! "
LifeofLieke: "How Can It Be That Joran van der Sloot travels so much? Does (alleged) murder That pay well? "
Franque89: "Let them that Joran van der Sloot # PLEASE quickly shut!"

Innocent until proven guilty, Joran seems not to apply. Well, Tatiana's hotel room in Lima was in his name and they are seen together. And everyone remembers the confession about Natalee disappearance that he was two years ago for the hidden camera did in the program by Peter R. de Vries, although under the influence of marijuana, and he later denied. In March this year, Joran in a broadcast by RTL 5 Terror Jaap again with a different story, but the Chief Aruba saw this primarily an attempt to evade prosecution.
 
But what if he is innocent? What if Tatiana stabbed by someone else?

Ok, it is again a young girl, there is again a casino involved and it takes place in an exotic location off AGAIN. And it is again Joran.

But nothing was proven.

http://www.nrcnext.nl/blog/2010/06/03/weer-een-meisje-en-weer-joran/

CBB
I think NEW SOL (Peruvian currency)
306122.44070 US Dollar
870K to US dollars:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=%2fPENUS
I can't believe he paid $306K...maybe $30K? probably $3K?

OH ROBOTS!!!! IF YOU'RE AROUND, I HAVE A FRESH CIGAR FOR YOU AND WOULD LOVE TO SHARE A PUFF WITH YOU!!!!!      <grin>

This is such a weird emotion for me. I'm angry that Aruba allowed and enabled Joran to harm anyone else. This is such a tragedy for that poor girl and her family! It was so preventable! My heart breaks for them!

I'm also exhilerated that Joran seems just on the brink of being held accountable! I'm happy to see the Renho's of this world squirm and twist. I'm worried for Beth because I know that the manner of death for Natalie has to be on her mind and she has to wonder if it was similar to this girl's. I don't know......... this is just hard. More than anything this is just so, so sad and tragic!

AH!! Thank you billb!! I felt silly asking, but that never stops me for long!!  :D

"Joran paid tons to come to Peru"
(AP) - Joran van der Sloot paid two brothers converted 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said. Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of 21-year-old daughter of a businessman and race car driver in the Peruvian capital Lima.

http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article3085130.ece/_Joran_betaalde_tonnen_om_Peru_uit_te_komen_.html

Silly CBB.... :)
Robots is busy fixing the oil leak BP left for the Gulf coast......
If Robots does come back....I'd love to help you light his cigar!

Joran van der Sloot on suspicion of murder Peruvian

UPDATE LIMA - Joran van der Sloot is suspected the 21-year-old Stephany Ramirez Tatiana Flores, daughter of a Peruvian businessman, have been killed in the Peruvian capital Lima. The woman was found Wednesday morning dead in a hotel room. Van der Sloot was the last person in her family saw her alive, Peruvian media reported.

Two brothers converted the Dutchman paid 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said.

The girl was dead in a hotel room Wednesday found that Van der Sloot would be hired. She was probably killed Sunday. Van der Sloot left Sunday around noon with a shuttle service from the brothers from the Peruvian Nazca place.
 
Monday they would have arrived in the Chilean city of Arica.
The suspect, according to the brothers wore shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. They hardly talked to him because he does not know the language.
 
Van der Sloot, the murdered girl in a casino in the Miraflores district have come to know. He was there for a poker tournament. The woman was killed by police with stab wounds. Stephany had been missing since Friday.
 
His lawyer in New York, Joe Taco Pina says he does not know where his client. He would have had no contact with him. However he warns that not too quick on Van der Sloot must be considered. "He has already been unjustly accused."

The father of murdered woman took on Peruvian television an emotional appeal to the authorities to quickly address the offender.

Leaving the casino together
Camera images would have us that they left the casino together. Stephany had been missing since Friday. The lifeless body of the victim was on the street Tac Hotel Republica de Panama found.

Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot on May 14 Peru entered. He would again have left Peru May 31 and are now in Chile.
 
According to a spokesperson for the Public Prosecutor (OM) in Aruba, Joran van der Sloot is a fugitive. He is now internationally identified through Interpol.

Natalee Holloway
Joran van der Sloot is still suspected of involvement in the death of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005.

Joran told inter alia that her body was dumped into the sea on the beach after she was deceased. He was in this case several times detained. (AP / MV / AK / LB)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/487654/2010/06/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-verdacht-van-moord-op-Peruaanse.dhtml

I want to know where Urine gets the money for all of his International travel. This is yet another case of parents enabling a horrible monster that continues to prey upon innocent lives.

Who saw Joran to last? by our internet editor

AMSTERDAM - The Dutch national Joran van der Sloot, who now wanted by Interpol as the main suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez, remains a fugitive. He was currently staying in Chile. Have you recently had contact with Joran van der Sloot, or have you recently seen him or spoken in Peru or Chile, please contact the editor of our newspaper.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6850161/__Wie_zag_Joran_voor_het_laatst___.html?sn=binnenland

Arica, Chile is a port city.  Wonder if Joran left by sea?

I read that Interpol has warned Chile not to let Joran leave Chile....but that warning was issued on Wednesday and Joran was in Arica long before that...so no one was looking for him.

He could have left by sea without any hinderance.  Hmmm....

Good Night Good Monkeys....
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner......
urine is toast........paulass is burnt toast.....

CBB, I made sure Robots knew about this and hoped he would stop by.  But at least he knows and is monitoring it all.  I haven't checked the front page to see if he has posted there or not but maybe he will come by tomorrow.

Hate to go to sleep for fear they will catch Joran and I will miss it!

But will give it a try anyway.  I hope we all awaken to Joran arrested by Interpol and fully in custody back in Peru where he will be made to stand trial. 

I am in the same place.  Waiting for an article that says he was caught or they left a tail of pieces of him as they were tying to catch him

Anyone still awake?

Murderer Dutchman is wanted in Chile
Stephany Flores was found dead in hotel room where he was staying abroad, who fled the Southern country. Police in both countries makes the coordination to catch. Author: ANA BRICEÑO
CompartirEnviar.La last time her parents saw her alive was the last Saturday afternoon. At that time, Stephany Tatiana Ramirez Flores, 21, took his leave saying he would come out with some friends and would return at night, but never returned to his home in Santiago de Surco. At dawn yesterday, was found dead in a hotel room of Miraflores.

Until Tuesday night, his father, Ricardo Flores racer Chipoco, kept the hope that her daughter was alive. Even thought it might be a kidnapping. However, yesterday, at 00:40 of the day, the corpse of Business Administration student was found with multiple blows to the face and body.

"I was in the prone position, thrown on the floor of the bedroom. He had no signs of having been raped. The autopsy showed cervical cranial trauma. That is, was killed with severe blows below the neck and punching, "said an expert from the Homicide Division Dirincri.

In room 309 of the TAC hotel, located in the Republic of Panama Avenue 6160, had a double bed and clothes in disarray, and the mattress was out of place.

FATAL ENCOUNTER. The only suspect in the crime is the Dutchman Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, 22, who was locked in that room since 14 May when the country came from Colombia, to participate in an international poker tournament.

That Saturday, Stephany joined the Atlantic City casino, in Miraflores. The victim liked to play poker. It was in that place where she met her murderer, but police have not ruled that related days earlier.

"At 5 am on Sunday entered the hotel TAC in the van of the girl and, at 8:45 am, the Dutchman retired with a suitcase. He left the car in Groove "said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Dirincri. A hotel employee was the one who gave notice of the discovery of the body, which was in a state of decomposition. She told police she saw the stranger entering the girl.

Escaped. The Directorate of Migration reported that Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot crossed the border into Chile on Monday 31 May. Ica Some drivers were told that the alien suns S/.1500 paid over to take him to Arica. The Chilean Investigative Police confirmed that the Dutchman is in his country, although there is as no. Interpol also works to stop overseas.

http://peru21.pe/impresa/noticia/asesino-holandes-buscado-chile/2010-06-03/276535

5000.0 PEN = 1765.15 USD

Sooooo, that means that he paid: 174 x 5000.0 PEN to equal 870,000

therefore you would need to also multiply 1765.15 times 174. right?

That equals 307,136.10 (MONKEY SHOCK)!! DANG! Did I do that right???

Here's where I did the conversion to get the 5000.0 PEN = 1765.15 USD:

http://pen.cer24.com/usd/?q=5000

LOL!! Night billb! Sleep well and God Bless!

Chilean Police: Joran Van Der Sloot is still in Arica
Chilean police are searching the young Dutchman, who is the prime suspect in the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of the businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

Chilean police are searching the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), prime suspect in the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, who fled by road to the Chilean city of Arica.

"We have deployed our security devices primarily in the Region XV. We have provided staffing at the checkpoint of which, we believe that is still in the region," said Douglas Rodriguez, head of the Arica-Parinacota police region.

Dutchman reiterated that Chile joined the afternoon of 31 May by the Chacalluta complex in a vehicle driven by two Peruvian citizens who returned home around 18:00.

Rodriguez said that information provided by bus companies and air, realize that the youth has not left the region.

"We have a strict control Whose sector (south of Arica) and we are also coordinated with the other regions, mainly in Iquique and Antofagasta where border control is also to Argentina and Bolivia", he said.

Rodriguez explained that the Chilean authorities have a location request of Van Der Sloot's whereabouts, but may not be arrested "because there is no international legal requirement, nor at the country level."

"The work we do is to be located, that put him to control migration and to determine your home with surveillance pending the Peruvian authorities to decide," ended.

The Dutchman is the main suspect in the murder of the young Flores Ramirez (21), whose body was found early Wednesday at a hotel in Lima district of Miraflores.

"We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim" at the hotel, said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of Peru.

"A hotel employee heard no screams, but saw them entering together," added Vasquez Guard.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-03-policia-chilena-joran-van-der-sloot-aun-se-encuentra-en-arica-noticia_269565.html

Netherlands psychopath fled to Chile

Police warned yesterday cholita its pair of Jaguarlandia by the eventual presence in our country the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), for the murder of a Peruvian girl in a hotel in the district of Miraflores, Lima.

The victim is Stephany Flores Ramirez (21), daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

The European psychopath (below) had come to Peru May 14, from Colombia, to participate in a poker tournament. Van Der Sloot intimate with the girl, but then killed her and left her body in his hotel room.

According to the Peruvian police, the kid he traveled overland to Tacna and Chile joined later by the city of Arica.

The Netherlands recorded a process in Aruba for a similar condor committed in 2005 when he allegedly killed and then burned his body of Natalee Holloway gringa, who accompanied him

http://www.lacuarta.cl/noticias/vuelta-al-mundo/2010/06/66-75756-9-holandes-sicopata-huyo-a-chile.shtml

Joran (various media)

Most morning newspapers bring news that Joran van der Sloot again a murder suspect. "Another girl Joran dead" headline in De Telegraaf. A spokeswoman for the judiciary on Aruba in the AD says: "We need that guy really in charge. He is still our main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway case.''

http://www.bnr.nl/artikel/15471462/overzicht-ochtendkranten-3-juni

Joran v.d.Sloot is wanted for murder in Peru
June 3, 2010

 
The Chilean police are looking for with all their might to Joran van der Sloot, who is suspected of a murder in Peru. All hotels in northern Chile are controlled, so far unsuccessfully. The 22-year-old is suspected that he was last Sunday in his hotel room in Lima, a 21-year-old Peruvian has slain. Van der Sloot had already traveled to Chile.

http://www.radio1.nl/contents/16303-joran-v-d-sloot-wordt-gezocht-voor-moord-in-peru

My, oh, my...beating so severely to break the neck and cause abuse the head so badly as to cause the death.  That's truly savage.  So sorry to say that it's nothing less that you would expect from a sociopathic monster like Joran. He's a beast!

Some articles from the Dutch Telegraaf this morning:

Joran paid for escape from Peru
http://tinyurl.com/2b3dpp9

Joran tries to reach his lawyer

http://tinyurl.com/2b9j3rh

Murder Stephany exactly five years after going missing Natalee

http://tinyurl.com/3xoonom

Who saw Joran last

http://tinyurl.com/2b33opk

G'Day monkeys.

CBB - The CNN video report I heard was that he paid $635 (US Dollars)

LOL!! Well......... that makes more sense, Sleuth! Thank You!! There was an article posted that said he paid 870,000 "suns" and we thought it was referring to the Pervuvian currency. Thanks again!  :D

In one of the other posts I read here earlier, it was said that Joran took $5,000 from Stephany.  If so, then after spending the $635 for a taxi trip across the border of Chile, Joran still has quite a bit of money.

I'm wondering if he didn't pay someone with a boat, maybe a fishing boat, to take him down the coast toward Argentina. 

He was in Chile on Monday, bu the news about the murder didn't come out until Wednesday.

Joran could travel a long distance in 2 days.

But where can he go? Aruba may not be such a cozy place for him now that he is a grown man instead of a young high school student. Maybe back to Thailand? He is not well educated, as someone here noted earlier. In one interview, he said he has not read that many books. He will be most comfortable in the world of twenty-year-olds, casinos, gambling, alcohol, and drugs. Aren't they heading into winter down there? I think he likes warm weather and beaches. Suriname would be good for him. The Kalpoes can come and visit.

Where would he go?  Great question!  I hope there's no place on the face of the earth that he can hide this time.  I do think that HE thinks he can outsmart everyone and he's going to try to do just that.

If the news articles are correct...he literally beat her to death...that's quite a rage.  He's on the run.  THis is different than last time.  Daddy is no longer in charge and Joran is no longer underage and he's even in a country where he can't communicate effectively.

Earlier reports were that he's trying to get to Argentina.  I don't have a good knowledge of South American countries or their laws, so I, personally, don't even know "why" the authorities think Joran's trying to get to Argentina.  So, I was thinking that "if" he is trying to get to Argentina, that on Monday, he was not a wanted man and could have easily hired a boat to travel toward Argentina.

I can't wait for more news on this later today.  It's moving quickly.  We now know she was beaten to death (not stabbed) (all those head wounds would be why the father saw so much blood and probably why it was thought that she was stabbed), we know there were drugs found in her car (fingerprints on car...drug wrappers?), we know the room was a mess...surely there's "hair" in there somewhere...maybe even in the blood, we heard that they're testing something found under her fingernails (I pray it's Joran's DNA), I even read in one post that they have footprints in the blood (they stated it as "Joran's" footprints...that would have to be proven; however, not too many men wear a shoe in the large size that Joran does), and they have a tourist witness that saw Joran and Stephany entering the room.

Yes!!!

Another thought (perhaps a crazy thought).  After seeing the pictures of the Peru prison, any other prison would be a much better place to be.  This is a "what if".  What if Joran knows that and is trying to get to a place where he can make contact with Aruban attorneys to turn himself in to for the Natalee murder.  "What if" (a miracle happened) he slipped Interpol and made his way back to Aruba and turned himself in....I don't know foreign laws...but with the Natalee case being the first case, would Joran have to stand trial and spend his sentence in prison on that case BEFORE the Stephany case?  We know the prison in Aruba is fairly new and he would have mommy and his brothers to visit him.  Just saying...and questioning...

He looked very out-of-place when he was in Holland, riding a little bike and wearing winter clothes. I think he will head north very fast for warm weather.

Looks like South American countries may have better border controls than we do. They seem to know who is in their country and who has left.

Yes!!!

Interesting idea, Puzzler. If he confessed yet again, would Aruba lock him up? What would be different about another confession? He would have to produce more facts. Which would be fine.

Just thinking:

They should watch casinos, McDonalds, and Internet cafes. He might try to hook up with another young woman who steps out of the pack. He won't hang out with other European males; more likely to go with native young men of a lower economic status. He doesn't fully understand the depth of the trouble he is in. When caught, will probably have a story about two native men who went to the hotel room with him. Maybe he will be "adopted" by an older experienced predator who will protect him as his father did.

I watch too many "Criminal Minds."

"Joran awaits trial in Peru"

LONDON - If Joran van der Sloot in South America is arrested and transferred to Peru, he awaits a criminal trial in that country, probably on suspicion of murder or manslaughter. He enjoys no special legal protection as a Dutchman. Netherlands is not expected to ask his extradition, for lack of interest.

That international criminal law expert, says Geert-Jan Knoops. "I assume that Joran is indeed the main suspect and that the Peruvian judicial proceedings are pursued. In that case he is an ordinary defendant in Peru. Netherlands, most consular assistance. "
If a conviction come, Van der Sloot must serve the sentence in Peru, said Knoops. Netherlands has no treaty with Peru in which the transfer of criminal sentences is regulated, although there are discussions going on. "Joran would possibly be able to transfer the verdict questions," says Button, "but it must be irrevocable. It may take a long time before that is the case. "
The Dutch justice would Peruvian colleagues may provide information, said Knoops, for example the case of Natalee Holloway, which Van der Sloot is still a suspect. A final prosecution decision in that case by the public prosecutor in Aruba, where Holloway vanished five years ago, has still not taken.

http://tinyurl.com/33m6877

So, it was everything we knew, and quite a bit of what Pat Brown has said.

He could have stopped with just pounding her face in and breaking her neck.

...but it wasn't enough.

He had to stab her, repeatedly. Splattering blood all over the room.

Complete and total overkill.

There is sex in his violence. He actually gets off on it.

You don't have to rape for it to be present.

I woke up to Beth's voice in my head this morning.

She said: "Well, that son of a bitch!"

Today is Joran's last day in the murder business.

Ricardo Flores said that police found his daughter's car about 50 blocks from the hotel, and that inside, they found pills like those used in date rape cases.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/06/02/peru.murder.case/index.html

Nice insight into a peruvian prison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Wuf3z7cLw

Joran will have plenty of opportunity to learn spanish there.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/06/police_in_chile_on_joran_van_d.php
Police in Chile on Joran van der Sloot's trail
Thursday 03 June 2010
Police in Chile are said to be closing in on Dutch national Joran van der Sloot who is wanted in connection with the murder of a Peruvian woman earlier this week.

According to Peruvian media reports, Van der Sloot is hiding out in the town of Arica, after paying two brothers to take him over the border.

Dutch media reported earlier that an international arrest warrant has been issued for Van der Sloot, who is suspected of killing Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21.

Hotel

However, local police chief Douglas Rodríguez has told the international media that there is still no international warrant for Van der Sloot´s arrest.

Ramirez disappeared on Friday and was found dead on Wednesday morning at a hotel in Lima.

She was last seen in the company of Van der Sloot and the hotel room where she was found was in Van der Sloot's name, according to local media reports.

Holloway

Her murder comes almost exactly five years after American teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on the Caribbean island of Aruba. She was last seen in the company of Van der Sloot, who was 17 at the time.

International criminal law expert Geert-Jans Knoops told the Telegraaf on Thursday Van der Sloot would not get any special legal protection as a Dutch national in Peru. Nor is is likely the Netherlands ask for him to extradited to the Netherlands.
n addition, Van der Sloot would have to serve any jail term in Peru because there is no prisoner exchange treaty between the two countries,he said.

There comes a time when even the mother must throw in the cards and call it.  Anita knows.  Save yourself and your sons, Anita.  Renfro, you are a piece of work.  Joran is slowly burning bridges behind him.  No one wants him in their country.  Run coward run.  I'm presuming phones are tapped and he will be caught soon.  How many more girls will he hurt?  If Aruba's government would have locked this punk up, this young lady would not have been murdered.  Bury your head in the sand Aruba, Peru won't do that.  After 5 years and one week, I feel we will see justice finally.  The world has seen what the Sporter Player really is.  Young ladies unite......... if Joran Vandersloot drugged you on your last day or took advantage of you in any way, come forward.  If anyone knows anything about this punk, please come forward.  Melody, as a mom, please............     I will pray for the Holloway's until the day I die........ someone, somehow STOP Joran.

You all will have to excuse me here, because I am fuming!
How friggin' stupid can one person be? We all knew it would just be a matter of time before this $hithead murdered again, but to go from being so slick about it to just plain obvious is amazing to me. And then his next brilliant idea is to try to contact takeapenny for advice??? Gee, I wonder why he didn't call his Mommy or his good friend, Julia wannabe Renfo?
I bet she is scrambling to excuse his behavior in her sorry excuse for a newspaper. I cannot wait to see how the other side is reacting to this.
Maybe Stephani laughed at Joran's 'manhood'?
May God give comfort to the souls of Natalee and Stephani, and may Joran rot in Hell for what he has done.
GRRRR!
Moving this post in Articles Only thread to Natalee Holloway #833

Taco was on The Early Show....spewing same ole' crap. CBS
A friend of Natalee's family will be on later...I did not catch a name.
~~~~~

Good Morning America will cover it now.... ABC

Link to Natalee's Candles:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.msg878415#msg878415

Thanks Bearly!

Good morning Monkeys!

May today be the day that Joran is captured!

I am heartsick and queasy to learn of the brutality and force in which Stefany died. Then my thoughts turn to sweet little Natalee.

It is just too much for Beth and family and Stefany's loved ones to bear.

God bless the families.




 

Nothing here:
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wanted/Default.asp
http://www.interpol.int/public/wanted/fugitiveinvestserv.asp
http://www.interpol.int/public/news/news2010.asp

http://www.criminaltrackeralert.com/interpol/SearchForm.asp

I asked a question yesterday that was not answered.

If Joran is using his laptop - is it possible his whereabouts could be traced?

Any one?

Good morning y'all.  Thank you for the links and the candle reminder.  I hope they catch him today!

Good morning Monkeys!

I hope they catch him soon.

Morning!  Please God!

They can track him to a general area such as IP (internet provider) or if he is hitchhiking on somebodies wireless they can trace him that far.

Have you heard that he was found dead of an apparent suicide?

http://dailyworldtrends.com/joran-van-der-sloot-update-joran-van-der-sloot-found-dead-near-peru-border-after-committing-suicide/1720


BREAKING NEWS: Some reports say that Joran van der Sloot, longtime suspect in the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway five years ago and prime suspect of the brutal stabbing death days ago of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, has been found dead near the Peru border after allegedly committing suicide.

There are currently no more details on this breaking news but we’ll post updates here in Daily World Trends regarding this piece of news so keep it here.

Possible? Yes

But we would need to know in advance what computer he was using and the IP address to be able to track his computer. And that he was the one in possession of the computer at the time (hope that makes sense)



Apparently Steph has family in Miami -- cousins -- they were on the Today show this morning. I can't find anything in the local paper, I will keep looking.

Steph is the angel that will result in Natalee's justice. I can feel it. RIP Stephany.

karma = peruvian justice 

It started on twitter but none of the networks are running with it and its been out there since early last night so we are thinking it is false.

Joran is going down.  May today be his last day of "freedom".  It is time.  Justice for Natalee.  Justice for Stephany.

Ok, thanks. Not that I wouldn't like to see him dead, but this is too easy...  plus it would leave two families w/out closure.

Thanks sleddogs!

Thanks Sharon...
Yes, justice is coming!   Joran's world is getting smaller and smaller.

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/van-der-sloot-a-murder-suspect-again

Van der Sloot a murder suspect again

Published on : 2 June 2010 - 9:09pm | By Erik Klooster    (Photo:ANP)
More about:    Aruba Caribbean Joran van der Sloot Lima Lima murder Miraflores Natalee Holloway news Peru South and Central America Stephany Ramírez

Joran van der Sloot, the chief suspect in the disappearance of US high school graduate Natalee Holloway, is once again suspected of murder. It is alleged that he stabbed a Peruvian woman, 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez, to death in a hotel room in Lima, the capital of Peru. The murder took place on Monday morning. The room was booked in the name of Van der Sloot.

His name has surfaced in various Peruvian media, and the Public Prosecutor’s Office on the island of Aruba, where Ms Holloway disappeared, has since confirmed that he is a suspect.

Mr Van der Sloot and Ms Ramírez are reported to have visited a casino before the murder, and security camera images reputedly show the couple leaving it together. Hotel employees have also stated that they saw the two together. The police are said to have found Mr Van der Sloot’s footprints.

The events took place in Miraflores, a rich district of Lima, famed for its many shops, restaurants and clubs and a popular spot for people in their teens and twenties. Ms Ramírez was the daughter of Ricardo Flores, a noted Peruvian businessman and racing driver. He has recounted the story of his daughter’s murder on Peruvian television.

Listen to Peruvian journalist Pamela Montes, speaking to RNW's Willemien Groot:


The Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office says Mr Van der Sloot is now a fugitive and being sought by Interpol. He is thought to have departed for Chile on Monday, and from there to be preparing to travel to Argentina. The Dutch Foreign Ministry in The Hague says he is still in Chile.

The 22-year-old man has long been considered the chief suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, who went missing on the Caribbean island of Aruba in 2005. No trace of her has ever been found and Aruban police and justice officials still have no concrete evidence about what happened to her. On separate occasions since, Mr Van der Sloot claimed to have helped dispose of her body and to have sold her into slavery. He later retracted both statements.

Media

The latest developments in the Joran van der Sloot saga have captured the imagination of many news media around the world.

Peru's daily El Comercio writes, 'Holandés presunto asesino de Stephany Flores también está implicado en casos de proxenetismo', devoting considerable space on its website to the recent murder and to Joran's past "as a pimp".

With the suspect of the Natalee Holloway disappearance case back into the limelight, US media are following suit. CBS for a while opened its website with "Joran van der Sloot Eyed for Murder in Peru; Previously Detained in Natalee Holloway Case", triggering a flood of online reactions. ABC News, too, is receiving lots of responses to the latest development.

The wait is for more news from Peru. RPP Noticias says its reporters spoke to two brothers who took Joran van der Sloot to the Chilean border town of Arica. "We didn't talk, he didn't speak any Spanish. All he did was wake up, smoke and fall asleep again," the brothers say on the Peruvian news site.

They describe Joran as wearing shorts, white sneakers and carrying two suitcases.


Links to some of the media mentioned:

ABC News about Joran van der Sloot
NECN (New England Cable News): Joran van der Sloot wanted for murder
El Comercio about the killing of Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez (in Spanish)
 
And in the course of Thursday, both Joran and Sloot became top-10 trending topics at Twitter. This merely means that many people are tweeting about these topics, not necessarily that any new information is emanating from them.

Amen!
Good Morning.

Maybe I have missed it...is there reward $$ for finding Urine?

Someone asked about this yesterday.  I've seen nothing in any of the reports on it.

Oh my God.  I always knew he was depraved.  And I always felt he killed Natalee violently as well.  But with someone as narcissistic as he, I never imagined rape with a foreign object.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3144/Photos#tab-Overview/6 (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3144/Photos#tab-Overview/6)An article on Peruvian prison.  Mother VDS will not be happy with her baby's new accommodations.

Also, does anyone know when his reservation was up at the hotel?  I don't think he "checked out" on Sunday but just left. 

I'm a bit hung up on this.  I hope the authorities are gathering this info.
Even though he is on the run, I can't imagine Joran being silent for long.

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/peruvian-jail-term-likely-joran-if-convicted

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/06032010_RadioNetherlandsWorldwide.jpg)

OH!  Ok, please forgive my last post.  That prior article confused me.

Urine is a punk coward.  I hope authorities are keeping close watch on his mother and brothers.  He strikes me as the type to call his mommy crying....  I also think he is too much of a p%ssy to hurt himself (suicide) unless he has a stash of GHB and could OD.  

Anita left a comment on Joran's Facebook page on Monday that referenced the Johnny Walker bottle in his profile pic. Somtething to the effect that "the bottle should be empty by now".  Jan Brennan had responded back "spoken just like a mother".  I noticed that Jan Brennan went back yesterday and deleted her comment, though Anita's still stands.

So.......she fell and hit her head too.......

Hunt for Joran Van Der Sloot: Former Lawyer Questions Evidence in Peru Murder, Natalee Holloway Case
Ex-Girlfriend Describes Peruvian Victim as Good Girl Struggling With a Troubled Life

June 3, 2010
A former lawyer for Dutch playboy-turned-fugitive Joran van der Sloot is questioning the evidence in the murder of a young Peruvian woman, saying previous accusations against his one-time client have been heavy on rumor and light on credibility.

Van der Sloot is believed to be on the run in Chile, following this week's murder of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, whose body was found in van der Sloot's Peru hotel room.

Police believe she was killed exactly five years to the day of the disappearance in Aruba of American teenager Natalee Holloway. Van der Sloot has long been the chief person of interest in that case, but charges were never filed, even after two arrests.

"It just doesn't make sense to me," van der Sloot's former defense attorney Joe Tacopina told "Good Morning America" today. "I don't know enough about the facts -- the so-called facts -- of this new investigation."

Peruvian newspapers have taken to calling van der Sloot the "international assassin" and Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant.

Flores, who was reportedly an out lesbian struggling with her sexuality, was found beaten and stabbed to death in a room at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima booked in van der Sloot's name, police said. The two were seen on surveillance video leaving a casino together. A hotel employee told police that Flores entered the hotel early Sunday morning with van der Sloot.

But Tacopina pointed out that her body was not found until Wednesday and questioned how it was possible she was killed days before without hotel staff knowing. Authorities believe van der Sloot fled Peru, passing through customs into Chile, and is on his way to Argentina.

"I don't know if he's innocent or not. I don't know if he's on the run or not," Tacopina said. "If, in fact there is an international warrant out for his arrest, then he should deal with it."

Tacopina said that after all the accusations in the Holloway case -- accusations that have yet to lead to charges or a conviction -- he's hesitant to believe anything the media presents about van der Sloot.

"There have been so many incidents where false facts have been presented," he said. "Rumors take on a life of their own."

Flores' funeral will be held today in Peru.

Though living openly as a lesbian, Flores struggled to balance her sexuality with her parents' intense disapproval, her ex-girlfriend Stephanie Jimenez told "Good Morning America" today.

Jimenez said that Flores had recently been hitting the casinos especially hard, spending thousands of dollars at a time. She described Flores as a good girl whose intense insecurity shaped much of her behavior.

Jimenez, now living in Miami, said that Flores would often flirt with men while gambling at the casino with her father, Peruvian businessman and racecar driver Ricardo Flores, even though she was out to the gay community.

"She knew something bad was going to happen to her regarding gambling, regarding this environment," Jimenez said. "I mean, this guy appeared out of nowhere. They went to a hotel, and I can't believe this."

Jimenez said it wasn't unusual for either Flores or her father to disappear for a few days at a time, but she's shocked her friend would go to a hotel with van der Sloot.

"She wouldn't do that, she wouldn't do that just for fun," Jimenez said. "She was afraid of something like this happening."

There are several similarities between Flores' death and Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005. Most notably, the two women seem to have met van der Sloot under similar circumstances and both were captured on video leaving with him.

The lack of charges against van der Sloot have been a painful source of frustration for Holloway's friends and family, especially after he was heard in February 2008 on a reporter's hidden camera saying investigators would never find Holloway's body.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TheLaw/joran-van-der-sloot-international-manhunt-natalee-holloway/story?id=10813490



http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TheLaw/joran-van-der-sloot-international-manhunt-natalee-holloway/story?id=10813490

Maybe 870,000 suns refers to the number of days he will spend rotting in a Peruvian prison.  :-)

Natalee Holloway Suspect Wanted for Murder in Peru

Aired June 2, 2010 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/02/ng.01.html

Dutch lawyer Joran surprised

LONDON - The Dutch lawyer of Joran van der Sloot, Bert de Rooij, Wednesday was the beginning of the evening surprised by the news of his client's disappearance Natalee Holloway case.

That said, the lawyer Thursday in a first reaction to the new suspicions against Van der Sloot. The authorities in Peru of the murder suspect Joran Stephany Flores. The victim is the daughter of Peruvian businessman and driver Ricardo Flores.

''I raised my light last night at the circle of people around Joran. They had some email contact with, but not on this matter'', De Rooij.

''I told him then emailed asking if I like him could mean. Then I have no answer.''

http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2261656/nederlandse-advocaat-joran-verrast.html

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487752/2010/06/03/Geruchten-zelfmoord-Joran-missen-elke-grond.dhtml

Through translator:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/JoranSuicide1.jpg)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487785/2010/06/03/Joran-wacht-strafproces-in-Peru.dhtml

Through translator:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/JoranPeruTrial.jpg)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Through translator:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/JoranChili.jpg)

Stephany Flores was hit in the head of the Netherlands
Nobody heard anything in the hotel on the block 61 of the Republic of Panama Avenue, within walking distance of Atlantic City casino, where he allegedly met with Joran van der Sloot


Tatiana was supposed Stephany Ramirez Flores, 21 years college student, was at a friend's house, where he had spent the weekend, but found his truck abandoned in a modern rather than old Groove, made suspect his father, Ricardo Flores Chipoco, that something bad had happened.

Stephany had communicated with his father on Saturday around 10 pm and had said he would participate in a competition Latin American Poker Tour in Atlantic City casino de Miraflores, so going to be late.

Since that time, Stephany's trail was lost. His father, fearing the worst, sounded the warning to police on Monday after the discovery of the vehicle. He thought he had been kidnapped, although the family had not received phone calls for money.

The tragic end of Stephany met in last Tuesday night, when a hotel worker Tac restaurant, located in the Republic of Panama Avenue 6160, the administration announced the discovery of the corpse of a young woman on the side of the bed. The maid knocked on the door of Room 309 to confirm whether this had already been evacuated.

Employees reported the news to the police station and is at the Homicide Division of the PNP, which found that the girl lying face down on the floor was Stephany, daughter of businessman and race car driver, Ricardo Flores Chipoco, "rifle."

APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH
Stephany, according to one of her friends, attended the Atlantic City casino to participate in the poker competition and met with Joran van der Sloot, a citizen Dutchman, 23, who had arrived in Peru on May 14 from Colombia .

A casino video shows when the pair play poker in one of the tables. Since then her friends lost track. Stephany forgot all about the world, did not call anyone and concentrated on the game and his new friend.

At 4 am on Sunday 30 May, the couple goes to the hotel where Van der Sloot was staying in the block 61 of the Republic of Panama Avenue, within walking distance of Atlantic City casino.

She drove his Jeep Cherokee A1B-533 to the aforementioned accommodation.

According to investigations by the Homicide Division, between 4:00 a.m. and 8:20 a.m. Stephany Sunday and Joran had discussed although the reasons have not been clarified. The Dutchman would have beaten the girl in the head and body several times into unconsciousness. Nobody heard anything in the hotel. No one noticed the crime.

The room was messy and the body was on one side of the bed. The mattress was not in place. There were some coffee and clothing on the floor.

At 8:20 a.m. Dutchman left the hotel with a suitcase and a backpack. With the keys to the vehicle, which would have taken portfolio Stephany, climbed into the cab of his victim and left the area.

On the afternoon of Monday the vehicle was found abandoned on the block passage 19 of Jorge Chavez, Surco.

Reports indicate that migratory Van der Sloot traveled overland to Nasca and then to Tacna. He left the country for the position of Santa Rosa towards Chile.

CERVICAL TRAUMA
Stephany's body was removed from the hotel at 4:00 a.m. yesterday and taken to the Morgue of Lima. The autopsy examination showed cervical blunt cranial trauma. He also had injuries in various body.

His remains are blurred in the Holy Name of Jesus Church Chacarilla. The funeral is scheduled for today at 4 p.m. in the Gardens of Peace Cemetery in La Molina.

The news quickly spread through CNN in Spanish and the front pages of newspaper websites in the Netherlands. The information generated hundreds of comments from readers. Also in the cable news agencies.

THE DATA
"I am very affectionate"
In his Hi5 wrote: "I'm always happy, I cracked up laughing at my legs, I am very affectionate, I love hanging out with my friends, dancing, going to the beach (I'll Asia, heh, heh), I love playing football, I like going to take with my friends and fun. "

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489182/stephany-flores-recibio-golpe-cabeza-holandes

FYI - heard from HAMMER

Hopefully he'll stop by today :)

Thanks Klaas!

One of Joran's friends posted this on his Facebook page.

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Flash back to June 2005:

What were they trying to cover up at the rocks?


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lol

I saw that too.  Posted before they found out what happened.  Anita is likely in shock and that's why she hasn't deleted her comment as well.

Wonder if Anita, Valentijn and Sabastian are proud of Joran now?

i was hoping to wake up this morning and find out they had caught him.
i thought i was going to gag after seeing joe tacopina on gma. glad robin wouldn't let him off the hook!

Thu June 3, 2010, 08:05
 The crackdown on Joran van der ...


 Who saw Joran to last?

AMSTERDAM - LONDON - The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who now wanted by Interpol as the main suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez, remains a fugitive.  He was currently staying in Chile.  Have you recently had contact with Joran van der Sloot, or have you recently seen him or spoken in Peru or Chile, please contact the editor of our newspaper.

http://tinyurl.com/HAVE-YOU-SEEN-JORAN

I love this!  Joran has few places to turn to. 

Joran admitted the murder to a poker friend.
He said he killed her because he wanted media attention.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html

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Thanks caesu

PERU
Natalee Holloway suspect wanted in new death
Five years after Natalee Holloway disappeared in Aruba, one of the prime suspects in the case -- a young Dutch poker player -- is being accused of murdering a 21-year-old woman in Peru.



BY SIOBHAN MORRISSEY AND JIM WYSS
jwyss@MiamiHerald.com


Five years to the day Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared in Aruba, the prime suspect emerged at the center of a grisly murder in Lima, Peru.

Peruvian Criminal Police Chief Gen. César Guardia told reporters Wednesday that they've launched an international manhunt for Joran van der Sloot, 22, in the Sunday slaying of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel.

Van der Sloot was captured on video leaving a casino in the Miraflores district of Lima early Sunday with the young woman, Guardia said. Workers also saw him check into his hotel with Flores, Guardia added.

Van der Sloot checked out Sunday, four hours after he arrived with Flores, and fled overland to Chile on Monday, Guardia said.

According to the Peruvian newspaper El Comercio, Flores' body was found stabbed and wrapped in a blanket in a hotel room registered under van der Sloot's name.

Peruvian police have asked Chilean authorities to be on the lookout for van der Sloot. Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for him.

The killing occurred exactly five years after the disappearance in Aruba of Holloway. That case sparked an international search for the Alabama teen -- who is presumed dead -- and has been tabloid and television fodder ever since.

``I was surprised and shocked when I heard the news,'' Aruba's chief prosecutor, Peter Blanken told The Miami Herald.

Blanken, who is leading the Holloway investigation, said it was too soon to tell how the latest developments would affect the case.

`MORE PROOF'

The Peruvian case appears more solid, he said, because there is significant evidence.

``There is more proof,'' he said. ``There is a body, and in Aruba we never found a body.''

Flores' slaying on the fifth anniversary of Holloway's disappearance is ``a dreadful coincidence,'' said Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the Aruban prosecutor's office.

Holloway was vacationing with several high school classmates in Aruba when she disappeared on May 30, 2005, after accepting a ride from van der Sloot when the bar they were in -- Carlos' n Charlie's -- closed for the night.

Initially, Aruba had closed the case against van der Sloot due to lack of evidence, Angela said.

It was reopened after a Dutch journalist secretly videotaped van der Sloot admitting that Holloway had died in front of him on an Aruban beach and that he had disposed of her body.

Angela said van der Sloot told several versions of what happened to Holloway the night she disappeared, including the latest in which he describes throwing her over a balcony.

Speaking to reporters in Lima, Stephany Flores' father said he was convinced van der Sloot was guilty.

``No other parents should have to feel the pain we are suffering,'' Ricardo Flores said. ``We must keep this man from killing again.''

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Ala., said that the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

Authorities in Aruba said van der Sloot had been there as recently as three or four weeks ago.

Van der Sloot, who had been studying in Holland, arrived back in Aruba after his father, Paulus, died in February, according to local reports.

POKER WORLD

Harold Faro, assistant editor of Bon Dia Aruba, confirmed that van der Sloot left Aruba last week, traveling to Colombia, Argentina and Peru, where the Latin American Poker Tour is hosting a tournament.

``He's a poker player,'' Faro said. ``He goes to a lot of poker tournaments, and in Peru they had a big poker tournament.''

Van der Sloot also met Holloway for the first time five years ago while playing poker at a hotel in Aruba.

Blanken, the prosecutor in Aruba, said he hopes Holloway's family will ultimately have some closure.

``It's the biggest case that has drawn more attention than any case in Aruba,'' he said. ``I would like to solve the case of Natalee Holloway so that her family knows what happened.''

The report was supplemented with material from The Associated Press.



http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/02/1660850/natalee-holloway-suspect-wanted.html#ixzz0pl8dTi3g

Netherlands kills daughter (of) racer

Cyril E / Photo: Joseph Box




He was only 21 years, was a university student and daughter of a businessman and former mayoral candidate known racer. In a poker game, a game that was one of his passions, he met a young Dutchman at a casino in Miraflores. They became friends, she accompanied him to the hotel where he was staying and murdered there hitting his face and head, to finally break his neck and rob the $ 5,000 that earned him an Uruguayan playing cards.


Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item. She was the daughter of Ricardo Flores Chipoco, champion of the Inca Trail in 1991.


She met the murderer, Joran Andreas Petrus identified as Van Der Sloot (23), the international poker tournament being held at the casino 'Atlantic City', in the Avenues and Benavides Pardo. On the evening of Saturday 29 May saw the couple playing cards in that local.


Two cups of coffee
On the morning of Sunday, both retired and went to the hotel 'Tac' Avenue Republic of Panama 6160, where he was staying abroad.


At 5:20 am, Adeli Manchero Abad, hosting employee told police he saw the girl and the stranger enter the room 309.

At 8 am, the subject left the hotel and bought two cups of coffee at a local supermarket. He returned to the room at 8:40 and left with a rucksack and hand luggage. 'I'll be back', reportedly told an employee.


The murderer approached the Jeep, Cherokee, A1B-533 plate, black, Stephanie Flores and then left in the passage Jorge Chavez, Surco.



The crime was allegedly committed after a heated argument between the couple.


At the foot of the bed
Police driving this hypothesis because the clothes were disordered bed, mattress for two people out of place, clothes scattered and in disarray. The body was lying on the floor at the foot of the bed in the prone position (face down). Just had a blouse, a coat and bathing suit.


Attended Wake

Last night, Stephany Flores remains were laid to rest in the church of the Holy Name of Jesus in San Borja, arriving relatives, friends and personalities like Defence Minister, Rafael Rey, the mayor of Lima, Luis Castañeda, the candidate mayor of Lima, Alex Kouri, among others, who expressed their solidarity.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092456.html

Well that's impossible to read.....ughhhhhhh

come across?

Here's the tidied up version:

Thu June 3, 2010, 15:36 | 17 comments
Joran famous murder poker friend
Bart Mos
LONDON - Joran van der Sloot has acknowledged earlier this week by telephone that he is guilty of the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Ramirez Tatiana Flores, last Sunday in a hotel in Peru.

Report various sources in the friends of Joran. The now fled to Chile last Tuesday Van der Sloot would have been in contact with a Dutch poker friend. Joran would have told him that he was the girl with a knife to it alive.
Following the murder of Stephany would Joran pathological need for media attention have been. The girl was stabbed Sunday in Lima and was found murdered in a hotel room. That room was in the name of Joran. Sunday was exactly five years ago in Aruba Natalee Holloway disappeared.
Joran had a few weeks ago to contact Jaap Amesz (Terror Jaap). At that moment he would still have existed in Venezuela. "Joran was at that time through properly have been. He told Jaap he walked around with plans to deprive himself of life," said one insider.
Jaap Amesz would not answer questions about his alleged recent contact with Joran "I want the police investigation is not jeopardized."

http://www.onlinepoker.net/poker-news/general-poker-news/dutch-poker-pro-run-suspected-murder/6106


Dutch Poker Pro On The Run Over Suspected Second Murder

June 3rd, 2010 Author: A. MitchellYoung Dutch poker pro Joran van der Sloot would appear to be on the run in South America, after the body of 21 year-old Stephany Flores was discovered in a Peruvian hotel shortly after being spotted with Sloot.

The murder took place on May 30th 2010, and in a possible case of history repeating itself, Joran van der Sloot was the prime suspect in another young woman’s disappearance, Natalee Ann Holloway, exactly five years earlier to the day in 2005.

Holloway went missing on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba, and although no body was ever discovered, Sloot was arrested twice on suspicion of her murder. Police were unable to find sufficient evidence to charge him at the time and he was subsequently released.

Fast forward to 2010, and video evidence from a Lima casino early Sunday morning shows Joran van der Sloot with Stephany Flores just prior to her murder and, as Criminal police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia explains:

“We have an interview with a worker at the hotel who says she saw this foreigner with the victim enter his room.”

Apparently, the young poker pro had travelled from Aruba, Colombia, and onto Argentina, as he took part in the Latin American Poker Tour (LAPT). Joran van der Sloot then arrived in Lima to join the LAPT Lima poker event, which was due to start on June 2, when the incident occurred.

“He’s a poker player,” said assistant editor of Bon Dia Aruba, Harold Faro. “He goes to a lot of poker tournaments, and in Peru they had a big poker tournament.”

Sloot, who plays online at Party Poker under the name AANOTILTKK, won around $13,000 at their $300K Guaranteed tournament, last year and is said to have been a successful enough player to maintain a lavish lifestyle.

The day after Stephany Flores’ body was discovered, Sloot apparently fled to Chile by land and now has an international arrest warrant out on him.

I don't know if this is true, found it on google news:



First paid for transportation of 1,500 soles to Nasca Ica and then paid 280 soles to be taken to Arica, Chile. That was how would the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot left the country, Alleged murderer of the young Stephany Flores, Daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

This happened last Sunday, according to Oswaldo Aparcana, taxi driver responsible for transporting the Nasca Dutchman who observed it and a lot of nervousness manifested in the constant consumption of cigarettes.
Pisconte Aparcana also told that the suspect was wearing shorts and white sneakers, and was in possession of two suitcases.

“We have left Nasca at 12 pm or so and have come to Arica at four in the afternoon of Monday,” he told RPP radio station.

He added that Van der Sloot also had a ticket to Cusco, where he apparently was going to run on Sunday, but that ultimately failed to do.

Bullshit.... he killed her because he is a sick freak.

This report various sources in the circle of friends of Joran.  The meanwhile to Chili fled Van of the Ditch would have had past Tuesday contact with a Dutch poker friend.  At him will Joran told that he the girl with a knife round the life have brought.
Following the murder of Stephany would Joran pathological need for media attention have been. The girl was stabbed Sunday in Lima and was found murdered in a hotel room. That room was in the name of Joran. Sunday was exactly five years ago in Aruba Natalee Holloway disappeared.
Joran had also single weeks ago yet contact with Jaap Amesz (Terror Jaap).  On that moment will he self yet in Venezuela found.  "Joran will there on that moment properly through sat.  He told Jaap that he went around with plans itself of the life to rob", according to an inaugurated. 
(another translation of last paragraph)
Joran had a few weeks ago to contact Jaap Amesz (Terror Jaap). At that time he would still have existed in Venezuela. "Joran was at that time through properly have been. He told Jaap he walked around with plans to deprive himself of life," said one insider.
 
Jaap Amesz would not answer questions about his alleged recent contact with Joran

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html

Chilean police searching the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), prime suspect in the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, who fled by road to the Chilean city of Arica. Joran Van Der Sloot, entered Peru on May 14, from Colombia, and left the country on 31 May .

“We have deployed our security devices primarily in the Region XV. We have provided staffing at the checkpoint of which, we believe that is still in the region,” said Douglas Rodriguez, head of the Arica-Parinacota police region.
Rodriguez said that information provided by bus companies and air, realize that the youth has not left the region.
“We have a strict control Whose sector (south of Arica) and we are also coordinated with the other regions, mainly in Iquique and Antofagasta where border control is also to Argentina and Bolivia”, he said.

Rodriguez explained that the Chilean authorities have a location request of Van Der Sloot’s whereabouts, but may not be arrested “because there is no international legal requirement, nor at the country level.”

“The work we do is to be located, that put him to control migration and to determine your home with surveillance pending the Peruvian authorities to decide,” ended.

The Dutchman is the main suspect in the murder of the young Flores Ramirez (21), whose body was found early Wednesday at a hotel in Lima district of Miraflores.

“We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim” at the hotel, said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of Peru.

“A hotel employee heard no screams, but saw them entering together,” added Vasquez Guard.

Stupid, running, sweaty sporter....I'd be surprised to see the SOB give up..

Morning the cuz and all!  I too was hoping to hear first thing that the animal had been caught. Where the hell is he? Who is helping him hide!!

thanks Klaas!

I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we'll even see some more 'incidents': desperate needs lead to desperate deeds.

view the location of this item Peruvian jail term likely for Joran if convictedPublished on 3 June 2010 - 12:15pm
Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is now suspected of murdering a woman in Peru on Monday, is likely to be put on trial there if he is found and arrested in Chile or any other Latin American country, Law Professor Geert-Jan Knoops has told members of the press in Amsterdam.

Joran van der Sloot - already the main suspect in case of the disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba in 2005 - had rented the hotel room in Lima where 21-year old Stephany Tatiana Ramírez was found murdered on Monday.

In the professor's opinion, Joran's Dutch nationality does not grant him any protection in Peru, nor will the Netherlands ask for his extradition. "I asssume that Joran is the main suspect in the Peru murder case and that the Peruvian authorities will want to prosecute him. In that case, he is an ordinary suspect. All the Netherlands can do is give him consular assistance."

If Joran van der Sloot is convicted, he will have to serve his term in Peru, Professor Knoops says. There is no judicial treaty between Peru and the Netherlands which would allow the sentence to be served in a Dutch jail. An ad hoc transfer of the verdict to the Dutch legal system would be possible only after Joran had exhausted all appeal options in Peru. "That could take quite a long time," according to the International Law professor.

Meanwhile, the public prosecutor in Aruba - where Natalee Holloway disappeared five years ago - is still considering whether to prosecute Joran, although he has argued that there is insufficient evidence to launch a prosecution.

 

I'm so glad-was hoping he'd post!

That's alright, we understand!

Thu June 3, 2010, 08:15 | 428 responses

Police Joran sits on the heels - UPDATE
LIMA - The crackdown on Joran van der Sloot is in full swing. The Chilean police would sit him on the heels of Arica. There have been roadblocks set up around the port, so that he could not escape.Against Van der Sloot is an international warrant for the murder of the 21-year-old daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. Stephany in Lima on Sunday with stab wounds have been killed and was found in a hotel room. That room was in the name of Joran.
Jan-Albert Hootsen, correspondent in Mexico, twittert that the Chilean police are currently looking at hotels and hostels to find the suspect. There are also decorated checkpoints. The Chief of Police Douglas Rodriguez believes that Joran is still around. According to Rodriguez, there is close contact with other police forces, like the border with Argentina and Bolivia. Arica is located 18 km south of the border with Peru and has 185,268 inhabitants.
Cause of death
According to an expert from the Homicide Division, there were no signs that the young woman was raped. However Peruvian media reported that her car "date-rape pills" have been found, such as GHB. Stephany is on the floor of the bedroom found. Initial reports reported death from stab wounds, but doctors say in various media that they covered in bruises and contusions Sat The cause of death was brain injury are.
A hotel representative says the sounds of fighting from room to have caught. On security cameras shows that Stephany and Joran were previously playing in the casino. Then they are seen as she went inside the hotel. Joran there about four hours later would have gone.
Flee
Joran van der Sloot has two Peruvian brothers almost 1800 Peruvian soles (about 500 euros) was paid to him from Peru to Chile to carry. The brothers Aparcana Pisconte told the Peruvian news RPP they transported him. They have a shuttle service company and brought Van der Sloot from Nazca, Peru to Arica in Chile, where they declared. This distance is approximately 1000 km.
Joran was wearing shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. The brothers said they have not talked to him because he did not speak the language. However he smoked one cigarette after another. He would soon have fallen asleep.
Suicide
Thursday rumors around, especially through Twitter, that Joran would have committed suicide. There is no official source that can confirm this. Also crime reporter Peter R. de Vries said on its website that the rumors surrounding the suicide "every groundless."
Joran arrived in Peru on May 14 with a flight from Colombia. Since then he stayed in a hotel in the Miraflores district. He said he did participate in an international poker tournament. If he is in South America is arrested and transferred to Peru, he awaits a criminal trial in that country.

http://tinyurl.com/29q4ta8

I've heard on an ABC report (that I can't find myself) that she was a lesbian. Maybe that's what set him off. Must have been one hell of a fight, with her injuries. Hard to believe no one heard anything.

Regis stated that Joran was "exonerated" in Natalee's case!  UGGHHH...I wish he'd get his facts straight!

AP) - Joran van der Sloot said Tuesday at a Dutch poker friend announced his 21-year old daughter of a businessman and race car driver killed in the Peruvian capital Lima. The Times reported Thursday that according to sources in the Friends of Van der Sloot.

The girl, Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found Wednesday dead in a hotel room that Van der Sloot would be hired. They probably have been killed Sunday. Exactly five years earlier, on May 30, 2005, disappeared the 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba. In that case, Van der Sloot suspect.

Van der Sloot has since left Peru. He was a taxi driver the equivalent of some five hundred million paid to him to get out of Peru. Monday around 16.00 hours, he arrived in the Chilean city of Arica. Police in Chile is trying to track him down.

In an interview on the phone to van der Sloot on his poker friends have entrusted the girl with stab wounds to have killed. The occasion was the "pathological need" to media coverage of Van der Sloot have been.

A few weeks ago, Van der Sloot also have had contact with Jaap Amesz, also known as Terror Jaap from "The Golden Cage '. An insider claims that he would have told Amesz he walked around with plans to deprive himself of life. Amesz itself wants nothing to say about his recent alleged contact with Van der Sloot, because he does not compromise the police investigation would bring.

http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/598823/van_der_sloot_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend

She probably laughed at his teeny weeny and set him off.  He'd never admit that.

 Joran Van Der Sloot lawyer questions evidence in Peru murder

Joran Van Der Sloot, Stephany Flores

by JOHN QUINONES, ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CLEOPATRA ANDREADIS and SARAH NETTER

ABC News

Posted on June 3, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Related:

    * Holloway suspect sought in Peru murder
   
(ABC News) - A former lawyer for Dutch playboy-turned-fugitive Joran van der Sloot is questioning the evidence in the murder of a young Peruvian woman, saying previous accusations against his one-time client have been heavy on rumor and light on credibility.
Van der Sloot is believed to be on the run in Chile, following this week's murder of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez , whose body was found in van der Sloot's Peru hotel room.
Police believe she was killed exactly five years to the day of the disappearance in Aruba of American teenager Natalee Holloway. Van der Sloot has long been the chief person of interest in that case, but charges were never filed, even after two arrests.
"It just doesn't make sense to me," van der Sloot's former defense attorney Joe Tacopina told "Good Morning America" today. "I don't know enough about the facts -- the so-called facts -- of this new investigation."
Peruvian newspapers have taken to calling van der Sloot the "international assassin" and Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant.
Flores, who was reportedly an out lesbian struggling with her sexuality, was found beaten and stabbed to death in a room at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima booked in van der Sloot's name, police said. The two were seen on surveillance video leaving a casino together. A hotel employee told police that Flores entered the hotel early Sunday morning with van der Sloot.
But Tacopina pointed out that her body was not found until Wednesday and questioned how it was possible she was killed days before without hotel staff knowing. Authorities believe van der Sloot fled Peru, passing through customs into Chile, and is on his way to Argentina.
"I don't know if he's innocent or not. I don't know if he's on the run or not," Tacopina said. "If, in fact there is an international warrant out for his arrest, then he should deal with it."
Tacopina said that after all the accusations in the Holloway case -- accusations that have yet to lead to charges or a conviction -- he's hesitant to believe anything the media presents about van der Sloot.
"There have been so many incidents where false facts have been presented," he said. "Rumors take on a life of their own."
Flores' funeral will be held today in Peru.
Though living openly as a lesbian, Flores struggled to balance her sexuality with her parents' intense disapproval, her ex-girlfriend Stephanie Jimenez told "Good Morning America" today.
Jimenez said that Flores had recently been hitting the casinos especially hard, spending thousands of dollars at a time. She described Flores as a good girl whose intense insecurity shaped much of her behavior.
Joran van der Sloot: Similarities Between Holloway Case and Peru Murder?
Jimenez, now living in Miami, said that Flores would often flirt with men while gambling at the casino with her father, Peruvian businessman and racecar driver Ricardo Flores, even though she was out to the gay community.
"She knew something bad was going to happen to her regarding gambling, regarding this environment," Jimenez said. "I mean, this guy appeared out of nowhere. They went to a hotel, and I can't believe this."
Jimenez said it wasn't unusual for either Flores or her father to disappear for a few days at a time, but she's shocked her friend would go to a hotel with van der Sloot.
"She wouldn't do that, she wouldn't do that just for fun," Jimenez said. "She was afraid of something like this happening."
There are several similarities between Flores' death and Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005. Most notably, the two women seem to have met van der Sloot under similar circumstances and both were captured on video leaving with him.
The lack of charges against van der Sloot have been a painful source of frustration for Holloway's friends and family, especially after he was heard in February 2008 on a reporter's hidden camera saying investigators would never find Holloway's body.
The video prompted Aruban investigators to re-open the case, but van der Sloot was never brought back to the island.
And in February 2010, a Dutch tabloid published a supposed confession by van der Sloot in which he said Holloway got drunk and fell from a balcony.
The Justice Department in Aruba was quick to dismiss the details of van der Sloot's alleged confession, telling ABC News, "We have been aware of the existence of this interview since August of last year. We investigated the claims made. The Aruban police investigated, with help from specialists with the Dutch police.
Spokeswoman for the Aruban Justice Department, Ann Angela continued to say that their "conclusion was that the statements made by Joran van der Sloot are entirely unbelievable."
But former FBI agent Brad Garrett said Flores's death may force authorities there to take another look at van der Sloot.
"It might bolster the case in Aruba, particularly if they are similar," he said.
For now, Jimenez said she wants people to know that Flores was a good person despite a troubled life.
"I want everybody to see the real Stephany, the sweet Stephany -- the good friend, good daughter," she said. "She was a good person and that's what matters."

http://www.whas11.com/news/Joran-Van-Der-Sloot-lawyer-questions-evidence-in-Peru-murder-95511634.html

He's just like some I've talked to about the case.  They don't pay attention to the details and really don't care.  He's probably got a timeshare in Aruba. 

Lima, Peru Stephany Flores: rebellious woman with love of poker

The Peruvian Stephany Flores, the victim of the murder which Joran van der Sloot is suspected, was already a few days missing. At first thought her surroundings that she was abducted. But Wednesday was her blood-stained body was found in a hotel in the Peruvian capital Lima. In a room's name was on the 22-year-old Joran van der Sloot.
 
About Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez is not much known. She was 21 years and still lived with her parents in the middle district Chacarilla. She was fond of poker. Possible that her fatal become.
 
Rebellious
A rumor that on the night before her death row would have had with her father, remains unproven. Well told her father that Stephany often headstrong and rebellious was. He had thereby admit that he's always really has spoiled.
 
Gamble
Stephany was first out with friends, and then she would be with Joran van der Sloot at a casino are gone. According to her father, she has a few days with the Dutchman. After the evening of gambling, left Joran and Stephany Tac together to hotel in Miraflores. The next morning, Van der Sloot left, and was dead in the hotel room Stephany found. Murdered, the police said. Not with stab wounds, as previously reported, but with a "blunt instrument". Perhaps she was drugged before.
 
Great guy
About the father of Stephany we know more. He is "Riflo ', a symbol of Ricardo Flores Chipoco. Riflo is fairly well known in Peru as a businessman and race car driver. But also as confidant of Vladimiro Montesinos, the right hand of former President Alberto Fujimori, who discredited hit because of bribes. Montesinos called Riflo on a video recording "a winner, a great guy."
 
Mafia
In the Internet reactions to the death of Stephany refers to the political past of her father. People suggest that Ricardo Flores, through his association with the political mafia, bad example has given to his daughter. But most reactions have been shocked.
 
Sleep
On her Facebook page shows that Stephany over 400 friends there, including many university students. She loved music from Coldplay, the Portuguese footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and the Peruvian national dish lomo saltado. Furthermore, she writes love to be on sleep. Slightly tart, so they never going to wake up.

http://www.rnw.nl/nederlands/article/stephany-flores-rebelse-vrouw-met-voorliefde-voor-pokeren

Thanks EURobert!

Father of alleged murderer had protected Netherlands after his first murder in 2005

 CPN RADIO - 03 JUN | The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot, the alleged murderer of a young Peruvian, was protected by his father when he was a prosecutor in Aruba, after having committed his first murder in 2005.

This was announced from the Netherlands to Hoy por Hoy CPN Radio journalist Paul Scheltus, who said that the individual has become well known in his country, for this crime and its constants media appearances.

"This case has always pursued. At various times has made controversial statements "the man told the press, noting that even in the 2008 Van Der Sloot involved with a gang of trafficking.

He added that if the suspect is caught and sent to Peru, Chile, would face trial and conviction in our country because - as stated - The Netherlands has no treaty to extradite him.

http://www.cpnradio.pe/html/2010/06/03/7/121.htm

Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.........plug the oil well with Joran Van Der Sloot

They confirm that Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot is still in Arica

Chilean police have orders to locate the suspected murderer of Stephany Flores, but you can not stop it because there is no court order.


"We have deployed our security devices primarily in the Region XV, as we have information that is still in the area," said Douglas Rodriguez this morning, police chief of the Arica-Parinacota region.

According to the official, are also coordinating with other regions, mainly as Iquique and Antofagasta adjacent to the Dutchman can not flee to other parts of the country and hide.

http://www.24horas.com.pe/internacionales/1275581664.php

I hope not, but am afraid of that.

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5 Years, To The Day...

And the night of gaming forecasts the deed.

Perhaps a trigger at the game table sparks the psychopathic urge within.  The wrong card at the wrong time.  A dead girl follows the dead girl, with the tragic likelihood of unknown dead girls in between.  A chance encounter, or fate?  Ms Ramirez, you deserved much better, so much better.

On the east coast of Australia and the Farillon Islands, documented anniversary killings by the savages of the sea are known facts; the great white shark returns on the date of previous attacks to kill again.  

The goon is a wild beast that must be hunted down, and caged away from the world of civil men, women, boys and girls.

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Me too.

Joran: an overview
Media Land is in turmoil. The Dutch Joran van der Sloot is again suspected of murder. This time the victim is 21-year-old Peruvian Stephany Flores.

Different media have different stories. Rumors going around the world, and the Dutch news sources do not always agree. Televizier shows.

NU.nl
Flores, the daughter of a race car driver and entrepreneur, was found dead in a hotel in Lima, Peru's capital. The room was allegedly on behalf of Joran van der Sloot. Also Joran the night before the disappearance of Flores and her reported.

After the murder Joran would take a taxi to Arica, a town in the north of neighboring Chile, have gone. Almost all Dutch media have also taken these facts.

RTL
The Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reported in RTL that Van der Sloot two brothers, owners of a shuttle company, around 500 million paid out in Arica. The trip would have taken place Sunday. An investigative report issued for Van der Sloot.

The Reuters
The local newspaper, the Reuters reported today that Joran now internationally through Interpol alert.

The Telegraph
The Telegraph headline: "Police is Joran on the heels". According to the website of the newspaper have set up roadblocks around the town, so he could not escape.

The newspaper also said that according to an expert from the Homicide Division no signs of rape on the body of Flores were found. However Peruvian media reported that her car called "date-rape pills" have been found, such as the drug GHB.

NOS
The NOS reported that there is no evidence that Van der Sloot has left Chile again. The website also says that Joran took part in a poker tournament last weekend.

Today Online Database Name out of the Meertens Institute notes that the first name since Joran van der Sloot know a lot less often given to newborn children.

From late 1970 called Joran a steady increase until 2006. Then plummets to use the name dramatically, from over 120 in 2006 to less than 10 in 2009.

http://www.televizier.nl/site/Joran_een_overzicht/list_messages/8656

So true, it's GREAT to see you!

morning, all.

are the news reports saying that he stole $5,000 from Stephany?

The way I'm reading and putting together all these articles it is that Joran beat her so badly around the upper chest / neck area that it broke her neck and that she had several head wounds, one was so severe as to be the mortal wound.  (I'm wondering if he used something to hit her with)...

Also, during the night and this morning...after the above information started coming out about what was obviously IMO leaks from the autopsy, there was never a mention of stab wounds.  With the mention of one of the head wounds being the mortal wound....I'm thinking she was not stabbed.

Stabbing creates a lot of blood....but head wounds create a LOT of blood.  The father said that blood was all over the room...something that is definately created with hitting someone on the head. 

I'm gleaning that he literally beat her to death...a sociopathic beast in a rage!

My 2 cents...

Timeshare .. I thought the same thing-lol.

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interesting...

Hammer!  Great to see you! 

I'm torn.  In some ways I wish he'd just kill himself but that seems too easy.  I do believe a Peru prison will be far more punishment for him than death.

He must have forgot the great "No Body, No Case" advice his daddy gave him.

Good to see you again, Hammer!!!!

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Once part of Bolivia, and Bolivia's access to the sea to export silver from the mines in Potosí, Arica became Chilean territory in the War of the Pacific, whose naval victories are celebrated annually as the Glorias Navales. Arica still functions as Bolivia's access to the sea, connected to Bolivia by train.

Now, Arica is a developing seaside resort, with golden sand dunes, miles of seashore, duty-free shopping and lively nightlife. Arica is also the gateway to inland ruins of ancient cultures, Lauca National Park with its many animal species including vicuña, alpaca, nandu and wild chinchilla, volcanos and the highest mountain lake in the world.

Getting There

•By air:
•Aereopuerto Chacalluta, north of the city, handles domestic flights from Santiago and other Chilean cities, plus international flights to and from Peru and Bolivia.

•By land:
•The PanAmerican Highway connects Arica to Peru and other Chilean cities.
•Bus service, either domestic, or international to and from Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina is available.
•Train service to Peru via Tacna, (see ENAFER Tacna - Arica/Chile line) and to La Paz, Bolivia is available. The train to La Paz offers limited seating, and it's best to make reservations the week ahead during the summer months.
•Taxis and car rental.
 
•By sea:
•In addition to being a commercial port, Arica is also a port-of-call for many cruise ships who offer day-trip excursions inland as well as city tours.
•Private sailboats and yachts berth at the marina.

http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/southamerica/a/ChiArica.htm

Yes, stupid of him he didn't check in a hotel near an ocean.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Arica.jpg)

I have the same question Jill

It's international news....I was just looking at a map and Santiago seems quite a bit farther south than where he reportedly went to.  There will be many looking for new information....jmo

yes, that was reported in a few of the articles out of Peru.

"Usual Suspect"


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10222012.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10222012.stm)

Michael Jackson and Van Der Sloot Netherlands shared the same lawyer

The Netherlands citizen, Joran Van Der Sloot, chief suspect in the death of the young Stephany Flores shared his lawyer with the famous Michael Jackson, when young, being smaller, was a suspect in the disappearance of a young woman in Aruba.
Joseph Tacopina blameless let the 'King of Pop "in the controversial case of child abuse, where after a media trial, the district attorney of Santa Barbara dropped all charges against the late singer.

Van Der Sloot is the main suspect in the murder of the young Peruvian unveiled as the head of the Criminal Investigation Department, Cesar Guardia.

"We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim to the hotel," the official added.

On the other hand, the brothers said they received Aparcana Pisconte 1500 soles of the Dutchman to transport Nazca to Tacna and then another 280 soles to bring it to the Chilean city of Arica.

http://www.terra.com.pe/noticias/noticias/act2358544/michael-jackson-holandes-van-der-sloot-compartian-mismo-abogado.html

Me too, one of the articles I read this morning made me think that.

We heard on NG show last night the Joran and Stephany left the casino and went to her car and sat in it for 37 minutes before the car left the parking lot.

I read somewhere this morning that a friend of Stephany's said she would never go off with someone she had just met and that Stephany was very concious about not doing that.

We read that date-rape drug wrappers were found in Stephany's car.

Now...if Joran walked her to her car, got in to talk a few minutes, they had a drink...which he drugged...and he waited for the drug to take effect...wouldn't that take about 37 minutes?  Then Joran could drive the car away and take Stephany into the room.  She was drugged...that's why she went with a guy she just met IMO.

Joran van der Sloot Netherlands already has an international arrest warrant
The alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, who would be hidden in Arica, could be arrested in the coming hours. Peruvian police also sent a warning to Argentina

Dirincri chief Cesar Guardia, said a moment ago the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot and has an international arrest warrant. As is known, the subject fled to Arica (Chile), the last Monday after the death of the young Stephany Flores, who had killed a day earlier in a Miraflores hotel.

After being alerted by the Peruvian police, the Chilean authorities began a major deployment to the whereabouts of Joran van der Sloot. Quoted by AFP, the U.S. authorities indicated that the Dutchman could not leave Arica and thus reinforced the police search of the Arica-Parinacota region.

However, the region's police chief, Douglas Rodriguez, had warned that Van Der Sloot was not going to be arrested "because there is no international legal requirement, nor at the country level." This situation has changed now thanks to the efforts of the Peruvian police. His capture could occur within hours.

ALERT ARGENTINA
The interior minister, Octavio Salazar, reported this morning that police were alerted to Argentina also possible possible flight to that country.

"I would not go into details because this person can be informed about the actions we are taking (...) we have all made coordination with the Ministers of Interior of Chile and Argentina because it is easy to spend the best from Chile to Argentina" he said.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489222/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-ya-tiene-orden-captura-internacional

Hi Monkeys!

Peeking in from work, but know there are lots of monkeys here that I haven't seen in a while. I didn't want to miss the chance to give everyone a hug!  HUGS!!!

I know Joran's not in Kansas/Aruba anymore, but I'll breath easier when he's caught to shut down any remote possibility that he'll get away this time! We should start a poll. My guess is that by days end, they'll have him!




 

Love Hammer's post, and I too am torn. I wish Joran would just die so noone would ever have to worry again, but I want him to suffer, REALLY SUFFER, for the rest of his pathetic life! He is a psycopath, just like Casey, so I don't believe he would ever take his own life; he loves himself too much! he's only interested in taking other lives. jmo

Ashley Banfield is discussing it on the View right now.....not the funds but that her body wasn't found right away. Now Joy just called the Aruban police "idiots"

Backatcha CBB!  (((hugs)))

Van der Sloot to be still in Arica
Thursday, June 3, 2010 | 17:00

ARICA (Reuters) - Joran van der Sloot, who was charged with the Peruvian Stephany Flores to the murder, is probably still in the northern Chilean city Arica. It said police inspector Douglas Rodriguez Thursday to the AP.

"We have inspected the roads and the airport, and no information given that Van der Sloot has left the city'', says Rodríguez. The inspector said that the Chilean police, according to international rules Van der Sloot can not continue. "We can trace him, to guard and take his passport. But that is an administrative proceeding, not criminal. The Peruvian justice must then request to Chile to arrest him.''

The Chilean Customs guarding the borders to prevent that Van der Sloot leaves the country, Rodríguez said. In particular the northern region of Antofagasta is being watched.''Van der Sloot was through that region of northern Argentina and Bolivia can go inside.

The Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reported that Stephany Flores by blows to the head and body to killed. Before she would a discussion with Van der Sloot had. The paper is based on the homicide division of the Peruvian police.

http://www.pzc.nl/algemeen/binnenland/6781391/Van-der-Sloot-waarschijnlijk-nog-in-Arica.ece

Yep!  There's killing and then there's a raging beast killing.  Guess which one Joran did...

mucho hugs

Holloway Ally: Flores Murder Brings It All Back
Missing Persons Search Group Founder: Aruba Police Commissioner Said van der Sloot Responsible for Natalee's Death

(CBS)  Five years after Natalee Holloway went missing, the man who has previously been arrested riwce in connection with her disappearance, Joran van der Sloot, is now being sought in another killing, that of Stephany Flores, 21, whose body was found Sunday in Lima, Peru.

Van der Sloot Lawyer: Inconsistencies Already
Photos: Van der Sloot Wanted for Murder
Photos: Photos: Natalee Holloway, Paradise Lost

Tim Miller, founder of Texas Equusearch, a non-profit organization that searches for missing persons, has assisted with the search of Natalee Holloway from almost the beginning, and has become very close with the Holloway family over the last five years.

Miller spoke Natalee Holloway's father, David Holloway, on Wednesday. Miller said David sends his condolences to Flores' family in Peru.

Miller said, "(David is) talking about what a senseless death that was, that we feel as though the cover-up that went on in Aruba, with Joran van der Sloot never being arrested, that we need to hold a lot of people accountable for Stephany's death in Peru. I mean, a very, very sad time for everybody. And Dave is just trying to, I think, just digest what's really happening in his life again right now. And of course it brings it all back to Dave and Beth, I'm sure that it's like it happened like yesterday. So there's disappointment, there's anger, there's frustrations. And, again, Stephany, there's no reason she should be dead today. Somebody made some huge mistakes over there."

Miller also discussed an incident two years ago in Aruba in which he and David Holloway were pulled over by a police commissioner.

"We were actually digging in a landfill, and we went back to get the permits to continue digging. And Gerold Dompig actually took us to a little warehouse -- it was kind of like we were into do some drug deal like you see on TV -- and he says, 'You don't need to be digging in the landfill anymore,' he said 'Joran van der Sloot is responsible for this, that body was taken out to sea.' Gerald Dompig's words to us were that Joran van der Sloot was a sociopath, that he controlled the entire family, even his father was afraid of him. And it's unfortunate that more couldn't be done to have Joran locked up."

He continued, "The other question is, 'Where has Joran been for the last five years?' We know he's traveled all over the country. Where is his money coming from, who has he been involved with? And we hate to even think like that. Did he kill Natalee, did he kill Stephany, yes, but he's really responsible for his father's death dying way before his time with the stress he went through. So Joran van der Sloot single-handedly probably destroyed an island, destroyed two different families, and certainly his own family."

Miller's own daughter, Laura Miller, was murdered in 1984 when she was 16. He founded Texas EquuSearch in 2000 in her memory and has since aided in the search of many missing persons including Natalee Holloway, Haleigh Cummings and victims of the 2004 tsunami.

Miller said the Holloways are still planning to look for Natalee's body.

"She deserves that funeral, Miller said, "And, yes, they want that person in prison for the rest of his life. And I know that feeling. I went through 17 months where Laura disappeared. … So I know what they go through. I made a promise to God and to Laura I'd never leave a family alone if there was anything I could ever do to help. And unfortunately, there's too many families out there."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/03/earlyshow/main6544006.shtml