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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 - 3/20/15 (Read 661382 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-convicted-murderer-joran-van-der-sloot-to-marry-peruvian-citizen-next-month-102958
Convicted murderer Joran Van der Sloot to marry Peruvian citizen next month
4 Hours ago
From El Comercio
Translated and adapted by Rachel Chase
Anti-extradition strategy?
Van der Sloot’s interest in marriage seems to have gained momentum after March 9, when the Peruvian government approved the United States’ petition that he be extradited so he could face charges in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. If he marries a Peruvian national, current law holds that Van der Sloot would gain the nationality of his spouse, which could complicate an extradition.
However, Van der Sloot’s lawyer Altez says that there is no strategy in play, as the existing extradition treaty between the U.S. and Peru applies to citizens as well as foreigners.
In spite of Altez’s clarifications, it is clear that Van der Sloot has an interest in reducing his sentence. This is evidenced by his recent entry into a distance learning program in administration and international business with the Universidad Alas Peruanas. If he finishes the course of study successfully and gains a degree, he will have access to penitentiary benefits that could allow him to reduce his sentence.
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Think about how long we've been reading about this wedding...if THIS is even true.
http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-convicted-murderer-joran-van-der-sloot-to-marry-peruvian-citizen-next-month-102958
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Though several days ago Van der Sloot’s lawyer Maximo Altez announced that the wedding announcement would be published soon, no local newspaper has received any such submission.
However, Ancon municipal authorities have confirmed that
the paperwork for the marriage was
initiated at the end of 2013
by Figueroa
, who indicated that the ceremony would take place in the Piedras Gordas maximum security prison, which is located in the aforementioned district.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Might be interesting to know the whole story behind all of this BS.
Has Anita orchestrated it all? Have to wonder.
JMO
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/joran-van-der-sloot-pregnant-jail-never-met-woman/
Joran Van Der Sloot ‘Has Never Met Woman Who Claims He Got Her Pregnant,’ Says Lawyer
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“It is not true that Joran got someone pregnant,” the convicted killer’s lawyer Aldo-Favio Cotrina told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview. “He doesn’t have any conjugal visitation, in order to get that you have to be married as it is only allowed with a wife,” he explained.
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As Radar previously reported, a woman identified as “Leidi” told Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that the 25-year-old had knocked her up, but Cotrina revealed his client has never even met the impostor, who has since been named as Carol Figueroa Uceda.
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Neither girl managed to gain access into the high security prison, as
the only visitors he is allowed are his main attorney, Altez, and his mother, Anita.
“At Piedras Gordas, you go by the book and they only allow direct family,” said Cotrina.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Justice for Stephany!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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I think that the defense/his strategy now is to reduce his sentence (take college courses) and complicate the extradition (get married). jmo
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joran-van-der-sloots-bride-to-be-speaks-to-cbs-news-crimesider/
May 13, 2014, 3:17 PM
Joran van der Sloot's bride-to-be speaks to "Crimesider"
Joran van der Sloot is scheduled to say "I do" on May 22 at about noon, according to Figueroa, who spoke to CBS News' Crimesider. The civil ceremony will take place inside the Piedras Gordas prison, where van der Sloot is serving a 28 year sentence for murder. Figueroa tells Crimesider that the witnesses will be van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Maximo Altez, and Figueroa's godmother.
Joran van der Sloot's family in Aruba will not be attending the wedding. But his mother has met his intended during her earlier visits to Peru.
Figueroa has recently bought a house near the prison, and says she is five months pregnant with van der Sloot's child; the baby is due in September. According to van der Sloot's lawyer, the Dutchman is studying international business management through correspondence courses from a Peruvian university.
Figueroa tells Crimesider that Joran van der Sloot has transformed himself "into a new person." She also says that van der Sloot is enjoying his prison arts and crafts classes.
Van der Sloot had his lawyer get the wedding ring last year, according to Figueroa. The ring has a small stone, not a diamond. The bride is still looking for a wedding dress. She is also working on getting a permit to videotape and photograph the ceremony.
There will be no reception at the prison. But Peru media reports that van der Sloot has two close friends in Peidras Gordas. They are "Crazy David" Sanchez and "El Cholo" Payet, two soccer hooligans each serving 35 years for a homicide during a soccer game in 2011.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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Quote from: grace-land on May 14, 2014, 12:56:18 AM
I think that the defense/his strategy now is to reduce his sentence (take college courses) and complicate the extradition (get married). jmo
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joran-van-der-sloots-bride-to-be-speaks-to-cbs-news-crimesider/
May 13, 2014, 3:17 PM
Joran van der Sloot's bride-to-be speaks to "Crimesider"
Joran van der Sloot is scheduled to say "I do" on May 22 at about noon, according to Figueroa, who spoke to CBS News' Crimesider. The civil ceremony will take place inside the Piedras Gordas prison, where van der Sloot is serving a 28 year sentence for murder. Figueroa tells Crimesider that the witnesses will be van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Maximo Altez, and Figueroa's godmother.
Joran van der Sloot's family in Aruba will not be attending the wedding. But his mother has met his intended during her earlier visits to Peru.
Figueroa has recently bought a house near the prison, and says she is five months pregnant with van der Sloot's child; the baby is due in September. According to van der Sloot's lawyer, the Dutchman is studying international business management through correspondence courses from a Peruvian university.
Figueroa tells Crimesider that Joran van der Sloot has transformed himself "into a new person." She also says that van der Sloot is enjoying his prison arts and crafts classes.
Van der Sloot had his lawyer get the wedding ring last year, according to Figueroa. The ring has a small stone, not a diamond. The bride is still looking for a wedding dress. She is also working on getting a permit to videotape and photograph the ceremony.
There will be no reception at the prison. But Peru media reports that van der Sloot has two close friends in Peidras Gordas. They are "Crazy David" Sanchez and "El Cholo" Payet, two soccer hooligans each serving 35 years for a homicide during a soccer game in 2011.
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If the news articles are true and he's taking courses and getting married, I agree with you grace-land.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627942/Joran-Van-Der-Sloot-marry-five-months-pregnant-girlfriend-maximum-security-Peruvian-prison-bride-claims-killer-transformed-new-person.html
Joran Van Der Sloot to marry pregnant girlfriend in maximum security Peruvian prison as bride-to-be claims killer has ‘transformed into new person'
Published: 03:26 EST, 14 May 2014 | Updated: 14:59 EST
A pregnant bride-to-be has confirmed her plans to marry a convicted killer in a Peruvian jail who is wanted in the U.S. over the disappearance of another woman.
Leidy Figueroa is planning to wed Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is currently serving 28 years in jail for the murder of local college student Stephany Flores in 2010
The site will not let me copy and paste any more of the article. It is a long article with pictures, and comments.
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Nancy Grace tonight... "Natalee Holloway Murder Suspect To Wed Behind Bars"
Jossy was on the phone. He said the response there had generally been of astonishment because these things aren't allowed on Aruba.
Joran's lawyer says Joran is working to make himself a better person.
Well good golly gee wizzzzz, he might as well; he's got plenty of time to work on it!
Whatever differences in the Peruvian law and Dutch law that according to Jossy doesn't allow the same privileges Joran is enjoying; at least Peru prosecuted the POS and he's in prison.
JMO
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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Somebody somewhere paid this chick something to marry this somebody.
Bet your bottom dollar.
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Quote from: texasmom on May 14, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Nancy Grace tonight... "Natalee Holloway Murder Suspect To Wed Behind Bars"
Jossy was on the phone. He said the response there had generally been of astonishment because these things aren't allowed on Aruba.
Joran's lawyer says Joran is working to make himself a better person.
Well good golly gee wizzzzz, he might as well; he's got plenty of time to work on it!
Whatever differences in the Peruvian law and Dutch law that according to Jossy doesn't allow the same privileges Joran is enjoying; at least Peru prosecuted the POS and he's in prison
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #868 8/16/13 -
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Personally I think it's all BS to make money from the tabloids
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Imprisoned Murderer Joran van der Sloot to Marry 23 Year Old Leydi Carol Figueroa Uceda, Pregnant With His Child … Something Natalee Holloway & Stephany Flores Will Never Experience
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2014/05/15/imprisoned-murderer-joran-van-der-sloot-to-marry-23-year-old-leydi-carol-figueroa-uceda-pregnant-with-his-child-something-natalee-holloway-stephany-flores-will-never-experience/
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May 2005 Natalee Holloway goes missing in Aruba while on vacation with other teens from Mountainbrook, Alabama and Joran van der Sloot was and still is the primary suspect in all rational thinking people’s minds in her disappearance and death. Five years to the day that Natalee went missing, May 2010 Joran van der Sloot murders 21 year old Stephany Flores and later confesses to the crime and is eventually found guilty and sentenced to 28 years in prison in Peru. Now May 2014, Joran van der Sloot through his attorney tells the world that the sociopath is getting married in a couple of weeks to 23 year old Leydi Carol Figueroa Uceda, who is pregnant with his child. Coincidence, hardly.
Sadly, neither Natalee Holloway nor Stephany Flores will ever be able to experience the joys of marriage or being a parent. Yet this sociopath is allowed to do both. One day there will be a reckoning Joran and it will not be pretty.
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Personally I think it's all BS to make money from the tabloids
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Also, IMO any woman stupid enough to marry the demon seed deserves anything that happens to her.
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Quote from: klaasend on May 14, 2014, 11:36:13 PM
Personally I think it's all BS to make money from the tabloids
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: cadillac on May 14, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
Somebody somewhere paid this chick something to marry this somebody.
Bet your bottom dollar.
The prime suspect IMO.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152468140908336&set=a.466414958335.257065.582598335&type=1&source=11
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on May 15, 2014, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: cadillac on May 14, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
Somebody somewhere paid this chick something to marry this somebody.
Bet your bottom dollar.
The prime suspect IMO.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152468140908336&set=a.466414958335.257065.582598335&type=1&source=11
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Sooo, where is that published marriage announcement--hmmm?
http://www.localnews8.com/news/Joran-van-der-Sloot-to-marry-become-father/25983870
Joran van der Sloot to marry, become father
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In compliance with Peruvian law, van der Sloot's attorney is publishing his client's intent to marry in newspapers across Peru on Thursday.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joran-van-der-sloots-bride-to-be-speaks-to-cbs-news-crimesider/
May 13, 2014, 3:17 PM
Joran van der Sloot's bride-to-be speaks to "Crimesider"
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Joran van der Sloot is scheduled to say "I do" on May 22 at about noon, according to Figueroa, who spoke to CBS News' Crimesider.
http://www.expatperu.com/marrying-a-peruvian-in-peru.html
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Once you have all this paperwork together, you’ll take everything back to the municipal building, pick the date, and pay for the ceremony. In some cases, you may be required to post a marriage announcement that runs for 7 days, and gives anyone with due cause fair warning and a chance to speak out against your upcoming nuptials.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-gq2OHj004
http://www.youtube.com/v/r-gq2OHj004
Joran van der Sloot to marry pregnant girlfriend in prison
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An attorney for convicted killer Joran van der Sloot says his client is set to marry his Peruvian girlfriend â who is five-months pregnant â in a ceremony that will take place at a maximum security prison. For more on this story, watch Nancy Grace weeknights at 8 p.m. ET on HLN. Follow the show on Facebook, and follow Nancy on Twitter. For more information please visit
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
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===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
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