Somer Renee Thompson #2 10/29/09 - 4/26/10

[Lenie]

I wonder if they have evidence that she was dumped from the trash truck?

I believe that was confirmed.  She was found in the midst of the trash collected from that area near her home.

Thanks, I wasn't for sure on that.

[FindingAnswers]

4getunot. I know what you mean. Especially after the other cases we have heard about where the preditor was a teenager. I dont think it is but as you say. Leave no stone unturned.

Lenie . The producer for the nancy grace show said tha they have tracked down the truck that Somers body was dumped from. They don't know the dumping site that that truck picked up her body from tho.

Brandi. I also didn't think the regular trash would run at that house but a friend of mine told me that when she was selling her home and having some minor work done. she had the trash pick up still in effect. So I thougth I would ask.

This case is madening. I hope it doesn't become another unsolved case.

[Lenie]

4getunot. I know what you mean. Especially after the other cases we have heard about where the preditor was a teenager. I dont think it is but as you say. Leave no stone unturned.

Lenie . The producer for the nancy grace show said tha they have tracked down the truck that Somers body was dumped from. They don't know the dumping site that that truck picked up her body from tho.

Brandi. I also didn't think the regular trash would run at that house but a friend of mine told me that when she was selling her home and having some minor work done. she had the trash pick up still in effect. So I thougth I would ask.

This case is madening. I hope it doesn't become another unsolved case.

Thanks Finding Answers.

[peacelove76]

Peacelove

You look very pretty in your new avi!!!!

Thanks, 4getUnot! Brandi made it for me. She must be psychic because it actually resembles me a bit. Funny, I am actually quite good with computers and I usually like to use Avatars and Icons etc. But I get so exhausted on this site, it is all I can do to just get my words out!!!! 

[FindingAnswers]

You are welcome Lenie.

[Mary]

Because this all happened in a very narrow space of time and so many people around at
the time (mostly children) it makes me wonder if its someone everyone knows. I wish
LE would say if she was sexually assaulted. At least that would narrow the field somewhat. I don't think she was because of the short time to get rid of her, and they
would have to redress her. I hate to ask this but I haven't heard much about the 13
year old 1/2 brother. Did they get along to-gether etc. I know his mom picked him up on
the road on her way home before she stopped the police car but thats about all. I'd
like to know more. Anyone have any pictures of him? Like I said I hate to think this way
but I had 1/2 brothers and sisters and we were not close at all. Disfuntional family!

[Brandi]

Because this all happened in a very narrow space of time and so many people around at
the time (mostly children) it makes me wonder if its someone everyone knows. I wish
LE would say if she was sexually assaulted. At least that would narrow the field somewhat. I don't think she was because of the short time to get rid of her, and they
would have to redress her. I hate to ask this but I haven't heard much about the 13
year old 1/2 brother. Did they get along to-gether etc. I know his mom picked him up on
the road on her way home before she stopped the police car but thats about all. I'd
like to know more. Anyone have any pictures of him? Like I said I hate to think this way
but I had 1/2 brothers and sisters and we were not close at all. Disfuntional family!

I looked for Andrew, the 13 year-old brother in videos and pictures at the memorial and funeral and vigils. I don't believe I ever spotted him. I saw Sam, the twin, and Abigail, the 10 year old sister quite a bit. The fact that I never spotted Andrew made me wonder why. He is listed as Andrew Cardinal in the obit, and I don't know if that is his middle name or surname. The police report names him as Andrew Thompson. I have never seen anything to suggest that Samuel Thompson, Somer's dad, is or is not his bio dad.

I do know that according to the police report, Diena drove from work to pick him up at Grove Park OPAA before contacting police about Somer's disappearance. The police report states that she flagged down Officer Coan at Gano Avenue and Floyd Circle West and told him Diena was missing after looking around with Andrew for Somer.

That's about all I can tell you. I found his absence from any videos and pictures odd. Could be he just likes his privacy and was staying out of the media's eye. I dunno.

[Brandi]

Mary,

I just found some pictures of the family going into the Memorial service and Andrew is with the other kids and Diena.

I am not sure how proper it would be for me to post them here, since he is a child. He does have long hair, and if the pictures had not been labeled, I would not have thought he was a boy.

Anyway, I wanted to correct my post that I did not see him at the Memorial service, because he was there.

[Brandi]

Because this all happened in a very narrow space of time and so many people around at
the time (mostly children) it makes me wonder if its someone everyone knows. I wish
LE would say if she was sexually assaulted. At least that would narrow the field somewhat. I don't think she was because of the short time to get rid of her, and they
would have to redress her. I hate to ask this but I haven't heard much about the 13
year old 1/2 brother. Did they get along to-gether etc. I know his mom picked him up on
the road on her way home before she stopped the police car but thats about all. I'd
like to know more. Anyone have any pictures of him? Like I said I hate to think this way
but I had 1/2 brothers and sisters and we were not close at all. Disfuntional family!

I looked for Andrew, the 13 year-old brother in videos and pictures at the memorial and funeral and vigils. I don't believe I ever spotted him. I saw Sam, the twin, and Abigail, the 10 year old sister quite a bit. The fact that I never spotted Andrew made me wonder why. He is listed as Andrew Cardinal in the obit, and I don't know if that is his middle name or surname. The police report names him as Andrew Thompson. I have never seen anything to suggest that Samuel Thompson, Somer's dad, is or is not his bio dad.

I do know that according to the police report, Diena drove from work to pick him up at Grove Park OPAA before contacting police about Somer's disappearance. The police report states that she flagged down Officer Coan at Gano Avenue and Floyd Circle West and told him Diena was missing after looking around with Andrew for Somer.

That's about all I can tell you. I found his absence from any videos and pictures odd. Could be he just likes his privacy and was staying out of the media's eye. I dunno.

Quoting myself for correction.

Andrew is at the Memorial in this video walking in with his family. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=147103

[trimmonthelake]

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/letters_from_readers/2009-10-31/story/this_year_halloween_is_a_whole_new_type_of_scary
This year, Halloween is a whole new type of scary.

    * Story updated at 12:20 AM on Saturday, Oct. 31, 2009
HALLOWEEN

The scary reality

This year, Halloween is a whole new type of scary.

After the case of Somer Thompson, all parents will become more watchful over their children.

According to the Web site, connectforkids.org, approximately 2,000 kids go missing every day. If we ignore our children when they're outside, this will increase.

Parents should keep a better watch on their kids on Halloween.

Stranger danger should be a permanent rule, no exceptions.

We need to watch for opportunists, and we need to proceed with caution while letting our children eat candy.

Together, we can look forward to a better tomorrow by making a difference today.

ELAINA ANDERSON,

[theboyzmom]

Because this all happened in a very narrow space of time and so many people around at
the time (mostly children) it makes me wonder if its someone everyone knows. I wish
LE would say if she was sexually assaulted. At least that would narrow the field somewhat. I don't think she was because of the short time to get rid of her, and they
would have to redress her. I hate to ask this but I haven't heard much about the 13
year old 1/2 brother. Did they get along to-gether etc. I know his mom picked him up on
the road on her way home before she stopped the police car but thats about all. I'd
like to know more. Anyone have any pictures of him? Like I said I hate to think this way
but I had 1/2 brothers and sisters and we were not close at all. Disfuntional family!

I agree that we need to look at the brother/half brother. I wish we knew more about him. when did mom and dad get married - if it was after this kid was born it would lean to a half brother. Did he live with mom? So many details I can not remember them all.
I am sure if he was a half brother there was a lot of jealousy at mom having new kids. And since he was a bit older, he could have been into something that he did not want Somer to tell mom about. Would not have to be anything big - could be he was smoking with some other boys or skipped school. But kids Somer's age love to tell on brothers or sisters! 

[Kat_Gram]

Someone here who lives in the area said that Andrew went to a different school as he was older and that the school he went to had a dismissal time of 3:45. From what we have read, it seems as if he went to play some sport
after school and Diena went to pick him up. Kid probably knew nothing about this until she went to get him. Time doesn't work for me. Neither does motive.
Or means or opportunity.
Also LE had asked  / mentioned wounds on a perp.
Think they might have looked at the closest persons to her first.   
..
The person who called the news station calling himself " Kyle " who was working at the house is more interesting to me. The Kyle Wade Rose person is an RSO. he lives in Jacksonville. Wish there were more details available on the exact nature of what he did. He was into kiddy porn that was the basis for the conviction. Don't know if it is the same person.
..
Somer was according to Kyle at the burnt house, she had soot on her according to Samuel Thompson, CSI was at the house.   

[Heart]

Good Morning all!

State ranks 3rd in missing persons

 
By Anthony Colarossi Sentinel Staff Writer

October 31, 2009

At times Florida can seem to be the national epicenter of reported missing children and child abductions.

The cases here gain national prominence and rarely have happy endings. After the media fanfare is over, the children's names stick out as sad reminders: Carlie Brucia. Jessica Lunsford. Trenton Duckett. Caylee Anthony. Haleigh Cummings. And now Somer Thompson.

The state does hold a number of unfortunate distinctions when it comes to measuring the number of children reported missing and, what some consider a related statistic, the number of registered sex offenders in the state.

According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Florida generally ranks third in the nation — behind only California and Texas — for reported missing persons, most of whom are children, registered sex offenders and the number of "stereotypical kidnappings," the most serious kind of stranger abductions.

The numbers can seem frightening for parents. Florida had nearly 62,000 missing-person reports during 2007. And as of July, the state had 51,560 registered sex offenders.

The vast majority of missing-person cases end up getting resolved. Many times reported missing children are kids who get lost or are runaways, said Ernie Allen with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Many other cases involve custodial disputes. So of the roughly 800,000 kids reported missing nationwide each year, only about 58,000 represent "nonfamily abductions," Allen said. And only about 115 of those are defined as "stereotypical kidnappings."

Those involve someone the child does not know or has only a slight acquaintance with and who "holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom or intends to keep the child permanently," according to Allen and U.S. Department of Justice statistics.

The large missing-persons numbers in California, Texas and Florida may be explained by a number of common factors.

"You've got large, populous states. You've got magnet states," Allen said. "You've got year-round climate, and kids tend to be relatively more accessible."

The large numbers of sex offenders in those states "probably" have some correlation, Allen said, but he also noted that not all sex offenders' crimes involve children.

"The 51,000 in Florida does not mean they all represent a serious threat to children in the state," said Allen, who has called for a tiered system for delineating sex offenders.

Florida ranks behind 13 other states in the number of sex offenders per 100,000 people. Florida has 281 such offenders per 100,000. Nationwide the ratio is 223 per 100,000.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-somer-sidebar-103109,0,73629.story

[Moreplease]

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Hi everyone. This looked like a good place for a first post. I am so sad about Somer and other children. I just wanted to say hello and that I'm not involved like one poster who asked about "new" people. You are all soooooo smart here and I hope that your sleuthing rubs off on me!

I am just getting here today so I am pages behind, but I want to welcome Moreplease to the cage!

Glad to have you joining us!



lovepeace76: I left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1000182#msg1000182

Still reading pages back right now. Trying to catch up!

Hi Brandi, thank-you for the welcome!

[Jerseygirl345]

Hmmm Is this Kuhn speaking ...

Thanks for the video Brandi...

[Jerseygirl345]

Hmmm Is this Kuhn speaking ...

Thanks for the video Brandi...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=147103

[Jerseygirl345]

Correction.. The pic on first coast ... After reviewing the video it states he is a neighbor named Robert O'Cain.

Sorry..

[Jerseygirl345]

Robert O'Cain... Let no stone be unturn

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[Tracygirl]

Good morning Monkeys
Has anyone done a business search for the company working on the house? Can someone post the name of the business? It starts with a "V" Versallis or something. I can't find it. 

I think "kyle" is a made up name, if not then I think every news person and their brother would be all over this person.

I was coming on to post about the construction dumpster and that they are not picked up with regular trash. I am also thinking maybe the person wanted her to be found? This morning I was considering whether or not they placed her in a truck, tool box, trunk and took her out of the area but not sure why they would bring her back to dump her.

Depending on the condition of the electrical and if it had been repaired after the fire, they most likely do not have electrical. Usually a house under construction that is down to framing the plumping and electrical are still being repaired or installed. Once those things are done, the drywall goes up. I wonder how long they had been working on the house. To be at the stud stage still seems a bit slow to me unless the house was determined to be condemned or the permit process in Florida is slow. Anyhow, my point is, the electrical is most likely being worked on.

On a construction site there are many people usually. Electricians, plumbers, laborers, foremen...If she was taken at the house, and if I am correct in my thinking there were more then just 1 or 2 workers and could have been many, someone saw something. I would like to know the size of this design company and if they use subcontractors. It is also not unlikely that a construction worker have scratches and bruises, it is a common occurrence, that is why the workers comp for the industry is so expensive!

That is enough of my rambling... Have a good morning all.

[Brandi]

Hmmm Is this Kuhn speaking ...

Thanks for the video Brandi...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=147103

As just posted by JG:

Correction.. The pic on first coast ... After reviewing the video it states he is a neighbor named Robert O'Cain.

I also believe this is neighbor Robert O'Cain, NOT William Kuhn (Kuhn was pasted as an inset for comparison):