Lively Case Discussion #523a 9/12 - 9/15/2006 (use this one)

[KatzHome]

Hi Strike!  I thought you left...  Cool!  You're here to see that Dana's having Larry Garrison on his show tonight...

Yeah, I saw.  And, although I do have a sexy voice, I am unable to call the show and allow others the chance to see for themselves.  Have a softabll game a little later, and I'm still at the j-o-b finishing some things up before I head over to the park.  Oh wait..my bad.  I know how some don't like me off-topic...

I'll try and listen to the podcast later though...

{{{hugs}}}  Strike!  I think I got lucky and you didn't hear my call!  Sue said it was OK ~ I'm waiting to hear what OF has to say...  if'in he answers...  And I finally answered your email, btw...  

you sounded wonderful and I was the other nut that called about larry and the FBI

I wasn't really listening to what the person said, Sue ~ but the other caller that I did hear, had a very nice voice ~ I can't wait to download the podcast and listen to it later.

[KatzHome]

Hey third, I am good... if you are sexy sounding... you need to call in.... inquiring minds want to know....

   Yeah, we do.

[thirdstrike]

Hey monkeys!!

Hmmmm, does somebody need to get over themselves?

Who does?  Dana's mom?

Hey Scarlett!!    How you doing??

Yes, speak to Scarlett and ignore me.  Well!  I am going to sit in my garden for a while.

C'mon now Lala's...you know we conenct on a different level!  No need for words...

How you doin' this evening?

[KatzHome]

Easy, you gonna call in tonight?

Great hearing your voice Katz!!    

Hi Mishy!

[mrs. red]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

[thirdstrike]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Ok, this is a little extreme.  Believe it or not, there are MANY of us men who've been raised much better then to believe that Tylergal!  I'm actually a little disappointed in this generalization...

[Carnut]

Hey third, I am good... if you are sexy sounding... you need to call in.... inquiring minds want to know....

Didn't you see my post to OF?  I'm very introverted.  Not very good around people, you know?  I've been told I need to open up...

Heh,  heh, something else we have in common.

Might be why some of us hang out so much on the net.

[mrs. red]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Ok, this is a little extreme.  Believe it or not, there are MANY of us men who've been raised much better then to believe that Tylergal!  I'm actually a little disappointed in this generalization...

honey hush, she didn't say ALL men.... but seriously I am seeing an alarming trend back to that...that whole idea of what she was wearing etc... just read around... and what's worse is so many women say this crap...

[Carnut]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Well, it does appear that a lot of men do think that way, possibly something inate in difference in the sexes, don't know.

Guess I'm one of the strange ones, women have to lasso and drag me away before I'm sure they are asking for anything.

[thirdstrike]

Hey third, I am good... if you are sexy sounding... you need to call in.... inquiring minds want to know....

Didn't you see my post to OF?  I'm very introverted.  Not very good around people, you know?  I've been told I need to open up...

Heh,  heh, something else we have in common.

Might be why some of us hang out so much on the net.

Speak for yourself Carnut!!  I'll have you know I actually do quite well outside the confines of the net!!  As a matter of fact, I have a date with a blind and deaf supermodel in about a half an hour...

[Lala'sMom]

Hey XXX, Iknow our connection is much more ethereal than most, but I just have to ask.  How can this crime be a simple crime if the cover up is so dang complicated?

[klaasend]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Ok, this is a little extreme.  Believe it or not, there are MANY of us men who've been raised much better then to believe that Tylergal!  I'm actually a little disappointed in this generalization...

Maybe men in the US, but based upon the men and women (boys/girls) in Aruba, and how they portray themselves and talk about the female tourists, the "she asked for it" attitude is alive and well in Aruba.

[Carnut]

Do hope everyone gets to checkout Louise's lastest adventure in the unsolved crimes forum.

[KatzHome]

honey hush, she didn't say ALL men.... but seriously I am seeing an alarming trend back to that...that whole idea of what she was wearing etc... just read around... and what's worse is so many women say this crap...

Yeah ~ this woman at work ~ was saying something dumb like that last week...  we had a whole hour for me to chew her ear off ~ correcting her perspective...

[thirdstrike]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Ok, this is a little extreme.  Believe it or not, there are MANY of us men who've been raised much better then to believe that Tylergal!  I'm actually a little disappointed in this generalization...

honey hush, she didn't say ALL men.... but seriously I am seeing an alarming trend back to that...that whole idea of what she was wearing etc... just read around... and what's worse is so many women say this crap...

I know Scarlett.  I just think too many times us men get a bad rap in this regard.  Forgive me for being a little sensitive...

[mrs. red]

Do hope everyone gets to checkout Louise's lastest adventure in the unsolved crimes forum.

I am over there all the time.... that is one interesting thread.. thanks to LV...

[KatzHome]

Maybe men in the US, but based upon the men and women (boys/girls) in Aruba, and how they portray themselves and talk about the female tourists, the "she asked for it" attitude is alive and well in Aruba.

Yeah ~ Deepak didn't hesitate to let his attitude show...

[oldfart]

You can put me down for being skeptical of any rape video or porn tapes with
Nat in it.

Way too complicated for the crime of a simple date rape gone wrong.

I think most men are skeptical of this as they believe all women "bring it on themselves" and if there were videos, they probably were "willing."  Just MHO.  I have come to believe that men believe that women "ask for it" and if they died in the act, or while being filmed because said man drugged them, it's just the luck of the draw from a woman who is "asking for it."

I think far too many people think that women bring it on themselves... I am afraid that women are taking giant steps backwards in this regard.

Ok, this is a little extreme.  Believe it or not, there are MANY of us men who've been raised much better then to believe that Tylergal!  I'm actually a little disappointed in this generalization...

Thanks Third...  You said what I was going to...

[Lala'sMom]

I have often felt that men have a tendency toward women "asking" for it.  If this were not the case, why, more often than not, do men make remarks about what some women wear?  I have often heard men remark that "she's asking for it dressed that way". What is that suppose to mean?  Why is it that women are held to a much higher standard than men?  

[Ono]

I just read the new statement. Why did they arrest OR detain him again ? becasue it isn't in there.

I haven't a clue.  There is nothing in MJ's statement or Abraham's statement incriminating.

They were looking for someone to take the "fall" for Joran.  It didn't work because Beth, Jug and Dave didn't back down.  If it hadn't been for them, MJ and AJ would be sitting in KIA right now, IMO.

I agree...absolutely nothing incriminating..in fact, you can hear 'the ring of truth' in both of them. Thank goodness for Beth, Jug and Dave. Aruba should be ashamed for what they tried to do to those two men.