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« Reply #400 on: June 07, 2011, 11:37:52 AM »

Re: chloroform testimony:

When Vass got off the stand yesterday, it was likely that everyone hearing the testimony had a pretty clear opinion as to the significance of the chloroform in the trunk. The FBI witness has allowed for the possibility of that opinion to be muddied. I think that's much more likely for a juror that is predisposed to find Casey innocent, but I wish this witness from the FBI hadn't been part of this case or at least testified BEFORE Vass.

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I totally agree.  I wonder if the jury will discount his testimony all together - or if they're even allowed to do that? 
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« Reply #401 on: June 07, 2011, 11:38:46 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

I agree. He was very hesitant and it was confusing as heck.

From what I can tell, he wasn't helpful and I hate any juror was taking notes.

he was confusing but IMO the most important evidence he gave was the sight amount of chloroform detected.....as it dissipates quickly to detest ANY at all indicated there had to be a huge amount to begin with.
But didn't he say it wasn't appropriate to test the way he did? 

I didn't get that...but I did walk away several times while he was testifying....
I could be wrong and maybe misunderstood.  I'm very confused by his testimony.
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« Reply #402 on: June 07, 2011, 11:39:04 AM »

I wish the dog handlers were allowed to bring their dogs into court with them.
Didn't they say yesterday that the handlers were waiting to be called  and that they had their dogs with them?

Not sure about dogs, but dog handlers, yes:

Casey Anthony News13

Dog handlers in the Casey Anthony case are in hallway this afternoon.

22 hours ago

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey
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« Reply #403 on: June 07, 2011, 11:39:16 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

 

He confused Tamkosmom?  Then again ... I have been told by those who claim to love me that I am the definition of confusion.

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« Reply #404 on: June 07, 2011, 11:39:25 AM »

Bobo wants a special arguement? Can someone please translate this. TYIA

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« Reply #405 on: June 07, 2011, 11:39:45 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

I agree. He was very hesitant and it was confusing as heck.

From what I can tell, he wasn't helpful and I hate any juror was taking notes.

he was confusing but IMO the most important evidence he gave was the sight amount of chloroform detected.....as it dissipates quickly to detest ANY at all indicated there had to be a huge amount to begin with.
But didn't he say it wasn't appropriate to test the way he did? 
No I understood it as, he didn't like to put the testing he did into percentages.  He said the results were inappropriate for percentages. 
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« Reply #406 on: June 07, 2011, 11:41:13 AM »

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The FBI expert told the jury he was surprised to find any chloroform on trunk samples because much would have evaporated

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« Reply #407 on: June 07, 2011, 11:41:27 AM »

I still have a hard time taking that blonde lawyer seriously with the zombie make up.
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« Reply #408 on: June 07, 2011, 11:41:56 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

I agree. He was very hesitant and it was confusing as heck.

From what I can tell, he wasn't helpful and I hate any juror was taking notes.

he was confusing but IMO the most important evidence he gave was the sight amount of chloroform detected.....as it dissipates quickly to detest ANY at all indicated there had to be a huge amount to begin with.
But didn't he say it wasn't appropriate to test the way he did? 

What I think I heard him say was it was inappropriate to give a percentage, but Jeff pressured him to give a percentage.  The test he did was qualitative, not quantitative.  Why they didn't run quantitative tests, though, is beyond me.
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« Reply #409 on: June 07, 2011, 11:42:20 AM »

What if they bring a dog in, line up all those cans they have, and see if the dog hits?

That would be awesome!  Cuz a well-trained cadaver dog can alert to the odor even thru cement. 

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« Reply #410 on: June 07, 2011, 11:43:37 AM »

aawwww  Bones did not want to be a biting dog.  I like that.
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« Reply #411 on: June 07, 2011, 11:43:51 AM »

Re: chloroform testimony:

When Vass got off the stand yesterday, it was likely that everyone hearing the testimony had a pretty clear opinion as to the significance of the chloroform in the trunk. The FBI witness has allowed for the possibility of that opinion to be muddied. I think that's much more likely for a juror that is predisposed to find Casey innocent, but I wish this witness from the FBI hadn't been part of this case or at least testified BEFORE Vass.

JMO.
I totally agree.  I wonder if the jury will discount his testimony all together - or if they're even allowed to do that? 

Ok, still trying to catch up and get an answer...so, this last FBI guy admitted that he hadn't tested air for chloroform before, is that correct? And what was the mistake I heard the prosecution had made wrt giving someone the wrong can????

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« Reply #412 on: June 07, 2011, 11:44:00 AM »

I'm not liking how these dogs are treated as just commodities, handed off from one owner to another as needed. Very depressing.
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« Reply #413 on: June 07, 2011, 11:44:31 AM »

What if they bring a dog in, line up all those cans they have, and see if the dog hits?

Now that makes sense!

However ... I would suggest that the dogs, handlers, prosecutor and defence are transported to nowhere, Florida to conduct the exercise.

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« Reply #414 on: June 07, 2011, 11:44:35 AM »

Re: chloroform testimony:

When Vass got off the stand yesterday, it was likely that everyone hearing the testimony had a pretty clear opinion as to the significance of the chloroform in the trunk. The FBI witness has allowed for the possibility of that opinion to be muddied. I think that's much more likely for a juror that is predisposed to find Casey innocent, but I wish this witness from the FBI hadn't been part of this case or at least testified BEFORE Vass.

JMO.
I totally agree.  I wonder if the jury will discount his testimony all together - or if they're even allowed to do that? 

They're allowed to assign any weight they want to any witness's testimony, either positive or negative. 
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« Reply #415 on: June 07, 2011, 11:44:53 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

I agree. He was very hesitant and it was confusing as heck.

From what I can tell, he wasn't helpful and I hate any juror was taking notes.

he was confusing but IMO the most important evidence he gave was the sight amount of chloroform detected.....as it dissipates quickly to detest ANY at all indicated there had to be a huge amount to begin with.
But didn't he say it wasn't appropriate to test the way he did? 

I didn't get that...but I did walk away several times while he was testifying....
I could be wrong and maybe misunderstood.  I'm very confused by his testimony.

I don't think he hurt the State's chloroform evidence, but I don't think he helped..he was very confusing
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« Reply #416 on: June 07, 2011, 11:45:13 AM »

Awwww he knew the dog's birthday! That just melted my heart!   
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« Reply #417 on: June 07, 2011, 11:45:32 AM »

I still have a hard time taking that blonde lawyer seriously with the zombie make up.

I noticed she brought Doogie Howser with her today.  They have been yaking it up.
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« Reply #418 on: June 07, 2011, 11:45:34 AM »

This witness for the prosecution will confuse the jury, imo.

I agree. He was very hesitant and it was confusing as heck.

From what I can tell, he wasn't helpful and I hate any juror was taking notes.

he was confusing but IMO the most important evidence he gave was the sight amount of chloroform detected.....as it dissipates quickly to detest ANY at all indicated there had to be a huge amount to begin with.
But didn't he say it wasn't appropriate to test the way he did? 

What I think I heard him say was it was inappropriate to give a percentage, but Jeff pressured him to give a percentage.  The test he did was qualitative, not quantitative.  Why they didn't run quantitative tests, though, is beyond me.
I didn't like it that he wasn't comfortable putting a % and Jeff "pressured" him to do so.  I didn't like it he said that to the jury.  <(
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« Reply #419 on: June 07, 2011, 11:45:37 AM »

Re: chloroform testimony:

When Vass got off the stand yesterday, it was likely that everyone hearing the testimony had a pretty clear opinion as to the significance of the chloroform in the trunk. The FBI witness has allowed for the possibility of that opinion to be muddied. I think that's much more likely for a juror that is predisposed to find Casey innocent, but I wish this witness from the FBI hadn't been part of this case or at least testified BEFORE Vass.

JMO.
I totally agree.  I wonder if the jury will discount his testimony all together - or if they're even allowed to do that? 

Ok, still trying to catch up and get an answer...so, this last FBI guy admitted that he hadn't tested air for chloroform before, is that correct? And what was the mistake I heard the prosecution had made wrt giving someone the wrong can????

Thanks

The can issue was a simple misidentification by Dr Vass yesterday between two cans & it was corrected on the record.
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