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Re: The Lawless' in Religion
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Reply #40 on:
June 12, 2009, 08:14:05 PM »
hmm on the victory baptist merging with sovereign grace.
The Victory Missionary Baptist Church of Tracy was looking for assistance because of the failing health of Pastor Scott. Victory then approached Eld. (Lane) Lawless and Sovereign Grace (Missionary Baptist Church of Mountain View CA) to request he consider a pastorate in Tracy.
The churches voted to merge. In 1981, the members of Victory joined Sovereign Grace, donating their property and assets to the Sovereign Grace Church. The name of the church was changed to Clover Road Baptist Church. Lane has pastored Clover Road Baptist Church of Tracy CA - since 1981.
so now they have how many members AFTER they MERGED LOL how many did they have BEFORE they merged? 5? LOL and how many of these people are related or married to relatives of CLL? or his family. I wish we had the members list.
so the baptist church transfered the property and assets to the sovereign grace. and how many members were at sovereign grace at that time, so a baptist church just gives a few people all their assets and property? and then the place never grows in 30 years.
so are they even a 503c1? I tried to do a quick look-up to see and could not find clover road baptist church. so what are they under? if they are a "charity" they should still be a 501c3. so what name are they under? dang I wish I lived near tracy I would be camped inside their courthouse!
another thing, if they merged with sovereign grace before CCL went there, who had the place then, and where did their pastor go, did they just boot him, did they ever have one? did they have a lot of members at one time and after cll got there they all left? or what?
my personal opinion is- there is something very hokie about this church and it might trace back to the other churches he has pastored also.
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9/11/1972
DEED
grantor - ENTERPRISE ASSEMBLY OF GOD
grantee - BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
__________________
4/8/1977
DEED
GRANTOR - BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE - BEARD, CHARLES R; BEARD, GERALDINE T
________________________
9/16/1977
DEED
GRANTOR: BEARD, CHARLES R; BEARD, GERALDINE T
GRANTEE: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
_____________________
6/9/1980
ASSIGNMENT OF DEED OF TRUST
GRANTOR: MARTIN, MARY JANE; MARTIN, JOSEPH J; JOSEPH J MARTIN & ASSOCIATES
GRANTEE: FREEMAN, NORMA C; FREEMAN, PAUL R; HUGHES, LOUISE; HUGHES, TED;
WANKOWSKI, WILLIAM; STEYER, VIRGINIA L ; BROOKS, MARY F; WANKOWSKI, MURIEL J; STEYER, RICHARD W; BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH ; GIEBLER, RALPH A;
MARTIN, CHRISTOPHER S
_________________________
1/6/1981
ASSIGNMENT OF DEED OF TRUST
GRANTORS:
MARTIN, MARY JANE
MARTIN, JOSEPH J
JOSEPH J MARTIN & ASSOCIATES
GRANTEES:
JOHNSON, MARIE L
TREVOR, EVERETT
TYLER, JACK
BAYLISS, DANIEL
BAYLISS, ELIZABETH
SHERWOOD, T W
SHERWOOD, JEANNETTE
THOMPSON, R FRANCES
BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
DEGRAFF, EDWIN W
EVERETT TREVOR MD PENSION PLAN
_______________________
4/24/1981
DEFERRED IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE: REDDING CITY OF
_____________________
8/23/2001 9:35:00 AM
DEED
GRANTORS:
BOEN, GORMAN A - TR
BOEN, LORA B - TR
GORMAN A BOEN/ETAL FAMILY TRUST
GRANTEE:
BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
____________________________
11/30/2001 2:34:00 PM
DEED
GRANTORS:TURK 1995 REVOCABLE LIVING TRUST; TURK, FLORENCE E - TR
GRANTEE: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
__________________________
11/30/2001 2:34:00 PM
DEED OF TRUST
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE:
BOOTH, YVONNE E - TR
MOORE, LARRY
MOORE, SHARON
WINFRED R BOOTH/ETAL FAMILY TRUST
________________________
5/16/2002 9:50:00 AM
DEED
GRANTORS:
HANCOCK, LINDA A - TR
HANCOCK, ROBERT LINCOLN - TR
HOMER HANCOCK/ETAL STEWARDSHIP TRUST
GRANTEE: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
_____________________
5/16/2002 9:50:00 AM
DEED OF TRUST
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE: LONICH, DAVID J; LONICH, LINDA A
______________________
5/16/2002 9:50:00 AM
DEED OF TRUST
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE: LONICH, DAVID J; LONICH, LINDA A
___________________
5/16/2002 9:50:00 AM
ASSIGNMENT OF RENTS
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE: LONICH, DAVID J; LONICH, LINDA A
_____________________
10/7/2002 8:00:00 AM
DEED
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEE: PETERSON, CHARLIE J; PETERSON, MARION
______________________
6/19/2003 2:15:03 PM
SUBSTITUTION OF TRUSTEE
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEES:
BOOTH, YVONNE E - TR
MOORE, LARRY
MOORE, SHARON
WINFRED R BOOTH/ETAL FAMILY TRUST
__________________
1/8/2004 2:00:00 PM
DEED
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEES: BRIDGES, WELDON E; OAKES, JEAN A
____________________
5/23/2006 8:36:00 AM
DEED
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEES: WHARTON, DENNIS; WHARTON, LINDA
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Re: The Lawless' in Religion
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June 12, 2009, 08:33:14 PM »
http://www.beaconmbc.com/index.htm
If anyone is interested in reading about the church in Redding.
Bro. Wharton received Jesus as his personal Savior on a Friday night in August 1959 at a church camp in Iowa.
I'll have to look it up to see which one, but we have a few from IOWA. anyone remember who it is from IOWA?
Dennis R. Wharton
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Re: The Lawless' in Religion
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June 12, 2009, 08:36:37 PM »
Dennis Wharton is the webmaster for the Beacon site as well as being the Grantee posted above.
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June 12, 2009, 08:41:43 PM »
If someone smarter than me would click on the site for beaconmbc.com -- there are numerous churches affiliated, including Texas and Canada and others in Texas. I can't get it to work to post the info.
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June 12, 2009, 09:02:35 PM »
one of their sites says "secret devotions" -- WTH
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June 12, 2009, 11:43:46 PM »
http://www.olneydailymail.com/archive/x110653247/Bret-Lawless-50
Bret Edmond Lawless, 50, of Linden, Texas died Sunday, March 15, 2009, in Abilene, Texas.
Visitation will be from 6-8 p.m. Thursday at Reeder-Davis-Schindler Funeral Home in Linden. Services will be at 2 p.m. Friday in the chapel of the funeral home, with Revs. Buck Newsome and Ed Lawless officiating. Burial will be in New Colony Cemetery.
Mr. Lawless was born October 14, 1958 to Rev. Ed and Mary Lou Lawless, in Olney. He studied astrology and wrote poetry. He was an auctioneer, raised dogs, was a trader at Canton First Monday Trade Days and at the age of 12 he had his own merchandise in his parents' store. He was a non-denominational Christian.
Mr. Lawless is survived by his daughter, Tonya Kirby and her husband, Tracy, of Alba, Texas; his parents, Rev. Ed and Mary Lou Lawless, of Linden, Texas; one brother, Jeff Lawless and wife, Colette, of Atlanta, Ga.; three sisters, Brenda Lawless Washington and husband, James; Renee Lawless Eaves and husband, Deriek, and Diana Lawless Nimmo and husband, Keith, all of Linden, Texas; six grandchildren, Christopher Kirby, Tyler Kirby, Cora Kirby, Summer Kirby, Ty Kirby and Trent Kirby, and numerous aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews.
Gets weirder:
http://www.thepamperedprisoner.com/blawlesstx.htm
Please dont cut and paste from the site to this thread, but do read it.
Bret died in prison. There is alot more information about him such as confessing to murders in 2000 of his ex girlfriends daughter and her two kids, which DNA cleared him of.
So again, we have a Reverend without a church (ED) and I do not believe that is his given name. Who else was born around the time this Rev would have had to have been to have a child in 1958? Say 1938ish at the earliest?
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June 14, 2009, 04:35:33 PM »
ok, maybe not, this article says HE and it is Jessie James Lawless, but notice the affiliation with the Baptist church...
Rev. Jessie Lawless
Funeral s e r v i c e s for
Rev.
esse James Lawless, 67, of
Mendota, the assistant minister
if the Little Zion Baptist Church
if Mendota
, will be held at 11
i.m. Monday in the Little Zion
Baptist Church. Burial will be
n the Dos Palos Cemetery.
Lawless died Aug. 26 in 7resno hospital following a long
llness. He was born in Arkanas
and had lived in Mendota
six years.
Surviving are a son, Eddie of
Wilson, Ark., and four grandchildren.
The Jesse E. Cooley Jr. Funeral isn't cooley the name of that SO?Service is in charge of arrangements.
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June 14, 2009, 04:37:19 PM »
Quote from: Sister on June 14, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
ok, maybe not, this article says HE and it is Jessie James Lawless, but notice the affiliation with the Baptist church...
Rev. Jessie Lawless
Funeral s e r v i c e s for
Rev.
esse James Lawless, 67, of
Mendota, the assistant minister
if the Little Zion Baptist Church
if Mendota
, will be held at 11
i.m. Monday in the Little Zion
Baptist Church. Burial will be
n the Dos Palos Cemetery.
Lawless died Aug. 26 in 7resno hospital following a long
llness. He was born in Arkanas
and had lived in Mendota
six years.
Surviving are a son, Eddie of
Wilson, Ark., and four grandchildren.
The Jesse E. Cooley Jr. Funeral isn't cooley the name of that SO?Service is in charge of arrangements.
Full Name: Scott Edmund Cooley Date of Birth: 06/04/1970
AKAs: Height: 6'0"
Weight: 204 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male
ADDRESSES
Possible Previous Address 1: DAYAN ST, LOWVILLE, NY 13367
S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1 Offense Date:
Legend
Bv Behavioral
Bu Business
D Drug & Alcohol
S Sex Related
T Theft/Robbery
V Violent
O Traffic/Other
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code: PL130.30
Offense Description: RAPE-2ND DEGREE OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25
Date Reported:
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: PL130.45
Offense Description: SODOMY-2ND DEGREE OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25
Date Reported:
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 16161
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: PL130.6503
Offense Description: SEXUAL ABUSE 1ST:SEXUAL CONTACT WITH INDIVIDUAL LESS THAN 11YEARS OLD OTHER VICTIM AGE: 4
Conviction Date: 2001/06/25
Date Reported:
And another Scott Cooley...
Name
Marvin Cooley Designation
Sexual Offender Status
Dept. of Corrections #
P17289
Date of Birth
Oct 20 1980
Race
White
Sex
Male
Height
6'00
Hair
Blond
Eyes
Hazel
Weight
282 lbs
Alias
Marvin Scott Cooley
Alias
Scott Cooley
Adjudication Date
03/14/2002 Crime Description
Lewd or lascivious battery victim 12-15 years old; F.S. 800.04(4)
Court Case Number
0100208
Jurisdiction & State
SANTA ROSA, FL
Adjudication
Guilty/convict
http://search.criminalcheck.com/PDdetails.php?db=FLSX_AN&rec=94481&ed=175&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC
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Re: The Lawless' in Religion
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June 14, 2009, 04:44:56 PM »
Quote from: Sister on June 12, 2009, 08:08:57 PM
Clover Road Baptist Church
I cant view the actual document, but their is a "charity license", although not a 501c3 for this church on Dec31, 1999, but it has an expiration date 5 months later, but says "active". Can anyone find the actual document?
They are not on pub 78 of the IRS.
Sister this I think came up before. I wish I can get to he records department, in this county it is in Stockton. I cannot get there during the week.
Any real church is going to function under a 501c3 or they are going to get slammed on taxes. Does this building have any tax liens? Where do you find that information?
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June 14, 2009, 04:59:03 PM »
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 14, 2009, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Sister on June 12, 2009, 08:08:57 PM
Clover Road Baptist Church
I cant view the actual document, but their is a "charity license", although not a 501c3 for this church on Dec31, 1999, but it has an expiration date 5 months later, but says "active". Can anyone find the actual document?
They are not on pub 78 of the IRS.
Sister this I think came up before. I wish I can get to he records department, in this county it is in Stockton. I cannot get there during the week.
Any real church is going to function under a 501c3 or they are going to get slammed on taxes. Does this building have any tax liens? Where do you find that information?
This was a question posted by Blink in mid-May. I have not seen any research on it, though I still have lots of posts to re-read. On this thread, not too far up, there is a list of grantors and grantees, one of which I thought was interesting -- a Dennis Wharton, who is one of the webmaster's on the Clover Road Baptist Church site.
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Re: The Lawless' in Religion
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Quote from: Sister on June 14, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 14, 2009, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Sister on June 12, 2009, 08:08:57 PM
Clover Road Baptist Church
I cant view the actual document, but their is a "charity license", although not a 501c3 for this church on Dec31, 1999, but it has an expiration date 5 months later, but says "active". Can anyone find the actual document?
They are not on pub 78 of the IRS.
Sister this I think came up before. I wish I can get to he records department, in this county it is in Stockton. I cannot get there during the week.
Any real church is going to function under a 501c3 or they are going to get slammed on taxes. Does this building have any tax liens? Where do you find that information?
This was a question posted by Blink in mid-May. I have not seen any research on it, though I still have lots of posts to re-read. On this thread, not too far up, there is a list of grantors and grantees, one of which I thought was interesting -- a Dennis Wharton, who is one of the webmaster's on the Clover Road Baptist Church site.
Hi Guys!!!
This is very important stuff your discussing here, I think!
Something is not right....
If memory serves...if....
We were NOT able to resolve these issues with the church. And the connection to the other churches...
I almost feel likesomething's right here and we are just missing some small detail ...
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June 14, 2009, 10:50:48 PM »
You know what?
I think we need to post on this thread
ANY
info we can find on the church in Washington or was it Idaho ...where Pastor Lane was accused of child abuse/molestationin the 1980's...
Whew...let's see what we can find...
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June 14, 2009, 10:56:22 PM »
Snipped:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d26-Video-Sandra-Cantu-case-Child-abuse-at-Washington-church-where-Huckabys-grandfather-was-pastor
A
Clarkston, Wash. church
where Melissa Huckaby’s grandfather was once pastor is being looked at by the FBI.
Lane Lawless is now the pastor of the Clover Lane Baptist church in Tracy, Calif., which was cordoned off as a crime scene in the Sandra Cantu case earlier this month.
In the 1980s, when Lawless was the pastor of the church in Washington, there were allegations of child molestation.
Authorities say Lawless was never arrested or charged in connection with the abuse allegations.
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First Church of GOD - Clarkston Washington
Where alleged abuse occurred in the eighties
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Lone, will you do a search on that Dennis Wharton guy? I haven't figured out why the property was transferred so many times. Doesn't make sense to me. Course, nothing with these people makes any sense on any level.
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Quote from: lonemonkey on June 14, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
First Church of GOD - Clarkston Washington
Where alleged abuse occurred in the eighties
Ok... this seems a bit weird...
Wrong church????
1 member???
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Above Snipped:
http://www.mychurch.org/churches/WA/Clarkston/234919/First-Church-of-God
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5/23/2006 8:36:00 AM
DEED
GRANTOR: BEACON MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH
GRANTEES: WHARTON, DENNIS; WHARTON, LINDA
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Hmmmm...
First Church Of God Inc
910 Sycamore St, Clarkston, WA 99403-2139
Contact Phone: (509) 758-2363
URL (web address):
Business Category: Religious Organization in Clarkston, WA
Industry (SIC): Religious Organizations
Business Information
This company profile is for the
private company First Church Of God Inc
, located in Clarkston, WA. First Church Of God Inc's line of business is religious organization.
Company Name: First Church Of God Inc
Is This Your Company?
Address: 910 Sycamore St, Clarkston, WA 99403-2139 (Map)
Alt Business Name:
Location Type: Single Location
Est. Annual Sales: $87,000
Est. # of Employees: 3
Est. Empl. at Loc.: 3
Year Started: 1917
State of Incorp:
SIC #Code: 8661
Contact's Name: Dale Johnson
Contact's Title: Pastor
NAICS: Religious Organizations
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===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Natalee Holloway
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