Natalee Case Discussion #678 8/16 - 8/26/2007

[Kiwi]

Thanks to all for giving the bridge another look. Maybe more will be found with time. Things have away of coming to the surface.

[Kiwi]

hey I got a suggestion that some out there may be able to put into action. Would love to see the reward move up to 1 million for information and conviction of those responsible for the loss of Natalee. Suggestion would be the Aruba tourism industry and especially the gaming industry. That has to be better pr solving the case rather than the multi millions lost to date and future loss, just good business cutting the weight of the sloots and K2's lose. On a more personal note it would be nice to bring her home.

[Observer]

Robert Werner accepted the Headmaster position in Rio de Janiero and arrived in brazil late July.


Email Address:   robert.werner@earj.com.br
Email Address:   Kristine.Werner@earj.com.br
Email Address:   Barbara.Werner@earj.com.br

Dr. Robert Werner, Headmaster  (2007-2008)
American School of Rio de Janeiro
Estrada da Gavea, 132
22451-260 Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil
Tel: 55-21-2125-9002
Fax: 55-21-2259-1606
Web: www.earj.com.br

Issue Number 033   June 8, 2007 Issue of the Extra Edition

Headmaster's Message

My wife, Kristine, and I look forward to the 2007-8 school year.  We are excited to become part of the EARJ community and towards the upcoming challenges we all will face as we strive to provide the best programs and facilities for our students.  In addition to our normal tasks, this coming semester will also be especially busy as we will be hosting an accreditation visit by the Southern Association of Schools & Colleges the end of September and the regional education conference for the Association of American Schools in South America in October.  These events will give us a chance to introduce our school and community to other professionals from around the world which will be exciting and will continue to assist us towards achieving continuous improvement. Over the last few months there have been many improvements made to both the Gavea and Barra campuses.  Both campuses have received face lifts and technology has been updated with the installation of new computers/software and new personnel added for technical assistance.  In addition the auditorium has been modified so we now have a sound and light room with more modern equipment to improve the productions that take place there.  We have also started to use the MuseOn which also enhances opportunities for all of us. As we begin the new school year we welcome around 80 new students that come from around the world.  We wish them great success at EARJ and invite them to take advantages of the many opportunities EARJ and the Rio community have to offer. In closing, I look forward to meeting all the faculty, staff, students, and parents and look forward to a great year. Sincerely, Robert Lee Werner, Headmaster Escola Americana

I leave the school in good hands since Bob Werner is already familiar with Brazil from his work at both Graded School in Sao Paulo and the American School in Brasilia. His most recent experience in Aruba included building a new campus, a project that Escola Americana is in the process of planning in Barra da Tijuca. With the Barra preschool now a clear success, we are determined to expand our presence in this fast-growing part of the city. I look forward to staying in touch with Escola Americana by attending reunions in the U.S. and returning to this wonderful country whenever I can. Best wishes to all! Peter R. Cooper Headmaster

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[Leslie]

Bob Werner is a very poor example of leadership lacking honesty, integrity, bravery, strength and loyalty.  He could have set the record straight about the question of Joran's attendance at school on that Monday and changed the entire investigation, yet he did not.  He is beneath contempt.

[sharon]

Interesting.

I spent 4th grade (when the dinosaurs roamed) at the 'Graded' school in Sao Paolo.

I don't have 'contacts' anymore though.  When I get back in town, I'll check with my dad to see if he remembers anything worth researching.

When I went -- it was k thru 12. Basically all American kids -- a few Japanese -- whose parents were in Brasil with American or Japanese companies (Hellman's, Caterpillar, etc) as part of the 'civilization'  of Brasil

[MuffyBee]

Good morning monkeys   I checked the Front Page as I came swinging in the cage this morning.  "Confirmation of Suspicions of Suspect in the Disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba" the You Tube Klaas made is there.  The pictures, the story even the music ask the question that cannot be ignored:  "Aruba, how much confirmation do you need to act?"    I am still mulling over what comment I would like to make to this on the front page, but the answer is so obvious there is no other way to put it:  Just how much confirmation do you need to act? 

[klaasend]

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

Thijsen received first threat  

ORANJESTAD – Fraction-leader Ady Thijsen (MEP) indicated this morning that he was not asked to step down. as was reported in an article in Don Dia this morning.  “Nobody has asked me anything, but I have received my first threat”, said Thijsen. 

On August 9th and 14th, Thijsen has asked his fellow party members ministers Marisol Tromp of Education, Social Affairs, and Infrastructure and Ramon Lee of Labour, Culture, and Sports some critical questions.   The questions to Tromp were about giving commercial long-lease grounds, especially the one near Fisherman’s Huts.  As a result of this and an earlier letter to Prime Minister Nelson Oduber, in which he criticized the government’s policy, the media was full with rumours about him stepping down.  His fellow party members as well as government members were apparently pressing him.  There were several party-meetings last weekend about the position of Thijsen. 

MEP-fraction members Dirk Dumfries denies this though.  “We have not met this weekend and we have not asked Thijsen to step down as leader of the fraction.  Those are all gossips.”   

He also doesn’t know anything about a compromising DVD about Thijsen, pressing him to resign.  Also Thijsen doesn’t have a clue.  “I do not know anything about a DVD not MEP meetings.  But in this case, I am the subject, so who knows.”  He was told in a threat-sms to throw himself in Boca Mahos, before somebody else does it for him. 

[truthseeker2]

   If Anita was in Holland the Tues. or Wed before Mon.,  the 30th of May, and Paulus was in Curusau, that meant that either the 2 younger boys were in Holland with Anita ( which seems to be something that could be easily confirmed or denied) but has never been, beyond a doubt, ie travel manifest  OR the 2 younger ones were staying with friends and Joran was having one hullava time at is Apartamento and making inticate, devious  plans for whatever his latest "tourist-victim" would be.

I believe that the two younger boys were with Anita.  I also believe Anita was smart enough never to leave those two boys home alone with that Psycho.

I agree with your reasoning -- but I just can't see them being able to keep this "lie" afloat. They would have to have cooperation from the entire school and all of the other parents for all this time. Too many people in the loop for the truth not to come out. No matter how much the island would try to protect one of their own -- the effects of the boycott would HAVE to cause those affected to unharness their wrath on the VDS's. --JMO

It could be that the two younger boys stayed with friends.  Paulus did say that that he had to get back home because someone was dropping one of those boys off on Sunday afternoon/evening.  Also, we know someone logged into Val's email at 2:30 in the morning, 05/30.  I know, I know, that doesn't necessarily mean it was Val, but that is what we have to go on.

Joran could have stayed at home while everyone else was away.  Now, the question is, who logged into Joran's email at 10:30pm on Sunday 05/29?  Paulus still had not picked him up yet...so they say.

[Nut44x4]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1882/8/

?? Does this suggest that the auto photos here in the ditch are that of a Taxi???

[Nut44x4]

http://www.votanel.aw/
looks like a vote count from 2005?

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1882/8/

?? Does this suggest that the auto photos here in the ditch are that of a Taxi???

Not sure:

Taxi:

Taxi Service (servicio de Taxi): 011-297-587-5900 o 011-297-587-1998
Taxi Central (Central de Taxi): 011-297-582-2116 o 011-297-582-2010
Aruba Taxi Service (Servicio Taxi Aruba): 011-297-585-5361

http://www.hyattcasinoaruba.com/sp/about/directions/index.php

also found this:

http://www.taxiaruba.com/bookings.html

For service arrangement using a taxi union (not for a specific driver): you can make online advanced time-call orders through TAXI CENTRAL for arrangement of services. For Bookings please fillup the form below:



If it is a TAXI it sure doesn't look like one!

[Nut44x4]

oopssssss delete mine please klaas, lol

[klaasend]

oopssssss delete mine please klaas, lol

OK?  Vote count?  I can leave it if you want.

[Nut44x4]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1882/8/

?? Does this suggest that the auto photos here in the ditch are that of a Taxi???

Not sure:

Taxi:

Taxi Service (servicio de Taxi): 011-297-587-5900 o 011-297-587-1998
Taxi Central (Central de Taxi): 011-297-582-2116 o 011-297-582-2010
Aruba Taxi Service (Servicio Taxi Aruba): 011-297-585-5361

http://www.hyattcasinoaruba.com/sp/about/directions/index.php

also found this:

http://www.taxiaruba.com/bookings.html

For service arrangement using a taxi union (not for a specific driver): you can make online advanced time-call orders through TAXI CENTRAL for arrangement of services. For Bookings please fillup the form below:



If it is a TAXI it sure doesn't look like one!

Was wondering because there are no window stickers or sign on top or correct license plates to be a taxi.....my mind always goes back to Natalee really believing she was getting into a taxi...it always will.

[Nut44x4]

oopssssss delete mine please klaas, lol

OK?  Vote count?  I can leave it if you want.

nooooooooo.....the one about the threat of politician

[MuffyBee]

iirc taxis on Aruba look like other cars.  It's the license plates that are different. 

[MuffyBee]

fwi  I have traveled in other places than the U.S., and there are people that see tourists and will try to pick them up to make a fare, even though they aren't official taxis.  It can be illegal to do this, but the lure of making money is there.  And think about what it would be like to walk out of a club late at night and there are cars out there, but they don't look like a taxi we know.  No yellow car with checkers or light that says 'taxi" on top.  And add to that some people get steered toward getting into those cars.  You might see same person around for a couple days, and feel like you can trust them when tell you there is a ride back to hotel. 

[klaasend]

iirc taxis on Aruba look like other cars.  It's the license plates that are different. 

Not sure about the licence plate but I believe they have a sign they either put in their window or on top of their vehicle.

[Auntiem]

I'm too lazy to go back and re-quote  the poster (my apologies)-- but I think you need to take Shango's quote in context of his previous quotes that night.  That is not to say that this new bone, her top, etc. are unrelated to the Natural Bridge "area." I think the "Shango Speak" was unrelated to the Natural Bridge. Also, I kind of had the feeling Joran was "The Lamb" (as in sacrifical lamb.)  (He was involved -- but not "Mr. Big")

[/b]


 Many took "the lamb" as Joran being "the sacrificial lamb", that was one interpretation I NEVER bought......nothing lamb-like him.....could never see the analogy and I always felt it was the Joran "lovers" who were promoting this interpretation (ex. gagmegirl).

        I don't believe in Soothsayers or Mediums or whatever some were making Shango out to be.  I do believe that he was someone in the Police, ALE, FBI, or someone too afraid to come out with information or someone enjoying playing a game (like a sick minded seriel criminal), who was in possession of a lot of inside information and enjoying playing his "riddle game".