Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[Tamikosmom]

Mum

I am not a believer in CAPS and ... at one time ... you and I were on the same page ... I have saved your critical posts.  What changed??

At the beginning of July ... I left the Natalee Holloway forum for five months.

My belief that CAPS cryptic posts were a distraction and ... my heartfelt concern regarding the Persistence/ALE connection ... met with a lot of opposition.

I was a lonely Monkey.

Inconsistencies posted by Kyle regarding the Persistence undertaking were justified.  Changing theories and flawed research posted by CAPS were justified.

Tamikosmom's theories are constantly changing.  Tamikosmom's research is often flawed.  However ... Tamikosmom does not claim to be in the know.  She concedes that she is just speculating on info that is out there.  However ... CAPS is revered as the one in the know.

During that four month period ... I took a "complete" sabatical from the Natalee Holloway case.  When time permitted out of a busy summer ... following the Touch DNA vindication of John and Patsy Ramsey ... I joined a Jonbenet forum on the TOPIX site.

I returned to Scared Monkeys in the fall and ... joined the discussion on the Caylee Marie thread.  However ... when the latest ROV images exposed and ... Kyle's posts submitted to another forum emerged ... I felt somewhat vidicated ... at least on the Persistence issue soooo ... I tippy toed back to the Natalee Holloway thread..

If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... he should just spit it out ... forget the elusive clues.  If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... justice for Natalee Holloway dictates that the FBI/ohn Q. Kelly/family of Natalee Holloway should be made aware of the truth in plain English which I know he grasps perfectly ... not cryptic messages.

IMO

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

SS...JMO, but I believe the trap is the diversion!  But what do I know...I think "Freddy" is not really Freddy!   

Do you think the cage is a diversion for the Manserat pond?  I don't know who Freddy is, but he is not a member of the Arambatzis family.

Heck I don't know SS...I am not sure anymore if it is even the Monserat pond!!!  Kyle posted co-ordinates for another and that Magazine had a pic of yet another...

All I see is that since the trap came up, we have posters snapping at each other and being downright mean...there is no in between, and it seems a lot of time no room for discussion. When there is any discussion it usually gets ugly.

You are either with us or against us. That is what I see as a "diversion".

Very well put Mum.Always keep an open mind and question!My problem is when people say they don't believe someone and don't explain why to the "people not in the know".When anybody makes a statement and doesn't explain their reasoning!If your a memeber of a private site,and or come on here just to discredit someone without explaining to the rest of the Monkey's i find that disrespectful to us all!As this is the best forum that i've found to have transparency in all cases i will ALWAYS swing in the trees of the Monkey's.IMOO i believe private sites have no transparency as there private!Really.How much information do they have that is NOT public??OK enough of the rant.Stay Focused...

[Tamikosmom]

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!!!

Janet
9:20 AM PT

[wreck]

Mum

I am not a believer in CAPS and ... at one time ... you and I were on the same page ... I have saved your critical posts.  What changed??

At the beginning of July ... I left the Natalee Holloway forum for five months.

My belief that CAPS cryptic posts were a distraction and ... my heartfelt concern regarding the Persistence/ALE connection ... met with a lot of opposition.

I was a lonely Monkey.

Inconsistencies posted by Kyle regarding the Persistence undertaking were justified.  Changing theories and flawed research posted by CAPS were justified.

Tamikosmom's theories are constantly changing.  Tamikosmom's research is often flawed.  However ... Tamikosmom does not claim to be in the know.  She concedes that she is just speculating on info that is out there.  However ... CAPS is revered as the one in the know.

During that four month period ... I took a "complete" sabatical from the Natalee Holloway case.  When time permitted out of a busy summer ... following the Touch DNA vindication of John and Patsy Ramsey ... I joined a Jonbenet forum on the TOPIX site.

I returned to Scared Monkeys in the fall and ... joined the discussion on the Caylee Marie thread.  However ... when the latest ROV images exposed and ... Kyle's posts submitted to another forum emerged ... I felt somewhat vidicated ... at least on the Persistence issue soooo ... I tippy toed back to the Natalee Holloway thread..

If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... he should just spit it out ... forget the elusive clues.  If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... justice for Natalee Holloway dictates that the FBI/ohn Q. Kelly/family of Natalee Holloway should be made aware of the truth in plain English which I know he grasps perfectly ... not cryptic messages.

IMO

Janet

That we can agree on Janet! I'm sick and tired of "cryptic" messages and the "just wait" crowd. If you've got something - spit it out! NOTHING at this point is going to "jeopardize" the "investigation"!!

[snoopy]

Snoopy..I hope its alright to ask...I've been wondering about Your little dog...How's He doing? 

O/T

Snoopy is doing well.  The vet is shocked!  If we can keep him stress free I think he'll be ok for a while.  Thanks for asking.

Oh and good morning/afternoon.  lol I slept in. haha.

[Keepthefaith]

Mum

I am not a believer in CAPS and ... at one time ... you and I were on the same page ... I have saved your critical posts.  What changed??

At the beginning of July ... I left the Natalee Holloway forum for five months.

My belief that CAPS cryptic posts were a distraction and ... my heartfelt concern regarding the Persistence/ALE connection ... met with a lot of opposition.

I was a lonely Monkey.

Inconsistencies posted by Kyle regarding the Persistence undertaking were justified.  Changing theories and flawed research posted by CAPS were justified.

Tamikosmom's theories are constantly changing.  Tamikosmom's research is often flawed.  However ... Tamikosmom does not claim to be in the know.  She concedes that she is just speculating on info that is out there.  However ... CAPS is revered as the one in the know.

During that four month period ... I took a "complete" sabatical from the Natalee Holloway case.  When time permitted out of a busy summer ... following the Touch DNA vindication of John and Patsy Ramsey ... I joined a Jonbenet forum on the TOPIX site.

I returned to Scared Monkeys in the fall and ... joined the discussion on the Caylee Marie thread.  However ... when the latest ROV images exposed and ... Kyle's posts submitted to another forum emerged ... I felt somewhat vidicated ... at least on the Persistence issue soooo ... I tippy toed back to the Natalee Holloway thread..

If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... he should just spit it out ... forget the elusive clues.  If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... justice for Natalee Holloway dictates that the FBI/ohn Q. Kelly/family of Natalee Holloway should be made aware of the truth in plain English which I know he grasps perfectly ... not cryptic messages.

IMO

Janet

That we can agree on Janet! I'm sick and tired of "cryptic" messages and the "just wait" crowd. If you've got something - spit it out! NOTHING at this point is going to "jeopardize" the "investigation"!!

I second that Wreck.What are "The people in the Know" waiting for?What is the reasoning,as well as logic for Caps not just spitting it out?What is Caps still trying to validate,and or research??Is Caps in harms way?

[truthseeker2]

Truthseeker......Did you ever do any checking into the Lionstone Group, Miami? Business partners here in the US?

Thanks in Advance.

Yes, I have.  I was particularly interested in looking at where some of the officers of Lionstone also serve on the boards of other companies as well as what they did before joining Lionstone.  I have that at home...I'm working/lurking for the most part. 

I'll try to post about it later after I get home.

Thanks Truthseeker...Anything on Flag Luxury Properties of New York, that you recall? That is who Lionstone built the Ritz in South Beach with. All sorts of companies associated with them...Conn. Chicago, New York, Las Vegas and they or people tied to them seem to have a lot to do with casinos here and in the Caribbean.  TIA

Yes.  I think I still have some of that at home.  (work is interfering with me posting.  hehe)

[MumInOhio]

You have to establish in this particular family who owns what and who controls what..

For instance Luis Mansur is listed as assistant editor on the DARIO !!!
Yet he gets arrested for major things..
He Shoots a gun at police and has major amounts of cocaine money and weapons in his possession in his home !! The judge in his case claimed he has hurt others..
His partners call him the Boss
And he is Josy's brother. He acts out as being above the law.. That is a pattern of behavior.
That type of pattern that hurts others.

But he is just a family member like some lost cousin ?

Someone may have already answered this but I think the Luis Mansur that is ths assistant editor of Diaro is Joseys son( named after his brother).

Thanks SuzieQ...Saw you up there and remembered your post. I believe you are correct on this. Again Thanks it has been months since I looked at the family relationships!

[Keepthefaith]

Kermit - How do Beth and Dave feel about the situation involving the cage photographs?

If I do not have to, I don't want to get into what they feel, say etc.

Kermit.Do we have a definitive year that The VDS family arrived in Aruba,as well as what was the position Paulus was given upon his arrival and by whom?TIA

1970s - Paulus went to University of Tiburg
He became an attorney and assisted citizens who had conflicts with gov't in Arnhem.
1973 - 1993 found against construction of a motorway that was to go partly over the van der sloot estate.
In 1978 his dad at the time worked at the social legal aid office in Arnhem
page 1 Joran's book

 In 1990 Paul van der Sloot was offered a job at the "Central Bureau of Legal and General Affairs on Aruba.



RVD, 20.12.2002

Meer informatie
Benoemingen Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba
Persbericht | 20-12-2002 | PDF document, 5 Kb

i cut the link in half so it would not blow the margins. you wanna see it, put it back together.
Translation:
The lord Mr. P.A.P.J. of of the ditch (50) is proposed for appointment to deputy member of the common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. The lord of of the ditch is now operative as a principal private secretary at the Procurator-General of Aruba. The appointment discusses 1 January 2003 for a period of three years.

Paulus van der Sloot and Oduber both got their education at Tilburg University.

“ in 1990 Paul van der Sloot was offered a job at the "Central Bureau of Legal and General Affairs on Aruba.” (Chapter 1 of Joran's book: Island boy)


In Aruba Paulus goes to work as an attorney for the Government for 5 yrs for Aruba gov't as an attorney
PvdS when he worked at the GEA, reported to Director Hubert Maduro.

member of Aruba's Council of State Hubert Maduro

sometime during 1994 Paulus switches jobs

Lastly, it is believed that Paulus Van der Sloot participated on a panel which agreed to extradite two relatives of the Mansurs to the US under serious charges some years back
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivo rous_conservative/2005/06/joran_van_der_s.html

More and more the name Mansur turns up in money laundering cases. Alex and Eric Mansur were indicted in Puerto Rico in August 1994
http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=archives_tblick_aruba


1995 - Paulus became cabinets leader for the public ministry and gave classes of Administrative Law at the local university.

1996 Zwinkels is fired from the Attorney General job



1997-1997 - Zwinkels left after a 2 yr battle with the Aruban gov't (they accused him of stealing drug money)
van Daalen became procureur general of Aruba in 1997 after procureur general Jan van Zwinkels was fired in 1996 by Aruba

2003 – January 2 – Paulus starts his judge-in-training and was said to of heard some cases.

Interesting.Didn't know that.To take on the Mansur family Paulus must have someone serious behind him.JMOO.One would think Jossy,as well as the Mansur family is enjoying watching the SLOW destruction of their family??

Kermit...Thank You...This is what I found from my research and posts months ago.Hmmm...I think I have posted this a couple of times in the last couple of days...

Keepthefaith....For months now I have been questioning on this Forum if Paulus had anything to do with those extradictions. I spent hours over 2 or 3 days checking into what Kermit has posted above. My computer with my documents has been zapped again...three weekes after coming back from the shop, so I can't post what I found. My posts about this are in the archives. Johan posted about Paulus being a Landsadvokaat, and I was posting about the FP posters stating he worked at KABNAA, if you want to search them.

I am sorry, but I can't go back and find the discussions. And quite honestly I am tired of spending hours backing up my posts, and it is disregarded, but if Kermit posts the same thing it is New news.

IIRC It was posted a couple of times, that weekend that Monkeys were taking sides, that the Private Forum that Kermit and Kyle posted on was Natalee Freebirds.

Back to following the money and Lions...Oh My!

I for one was unaware of that.Shows you that i'm definitly not in the know.LOL.Find it interesting.I do believe we'll have a better understanding of this all if we can understand the flow of money in Aruba which is probably a major undertaking..

[hotping]

Snoopy..I hope its alright to ask...I've been wondering about Your little dog...How's He doing? 

O/T

Snoopy is doing well.  The vet is shocked!  If we can keep him stress free I think he'll be ok for a while.  Thanks for asking.

Oh and good morning/afternoon.  lol I slept in. haha.

Good Morning Snoopy! I'm sooo Happy that Your dog is doing well.....and You're Welcome! 

[blah]

http://acting411.blogspot.com/2008/11/lifetime-network-tv-movie-natalee.html

December 16, 2008


The Lifetime Network in association with Sony Pictures Television are currently in pre-production on the TV Movie "Natalee Holloway". Casting directors are now accepting photos and resumes.

*** Please submit photos and resumes by mail only. No phone calls or personal drop-offs ***

See the post titled Headshot and Resume Information regarding how to submit for acting roles.


Send photo and resume to:

Susan Bluestein Casting
Sunset/Gower Studios
1438 N. Gower St.
Bldg. 35, Ste. 156
Los Angees CA 90028


Production Company:

Sony Pictures Television
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Producers:

Robert M. Sertner - Executive Producer
Frank von Zerneck - Executive Producer

Director:

Mikael Salomon

Writer (Novel): Beth Holloway-Twitty

Filming Location:

Sony Studios
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Various on-location sets.


Cast:

TBA

Story:

The true story of high school senior Natalee Holloway and her disappearance in Aruba.

Ohhhhh Aruba - I think this is going to leave a mark!!!!! 

[MumInOhio]

Mum

I am not a believer in CAPS and ... at one time ... you and I were on the same page ... I have saved your critical posts.  What changed??

At the beginning of July ... I left the Natalee Holloway forum for five months.

My belief that CAPS cryptic posts were a distraction and ... my heartfelt concern regarding the Persistence/ALE connection ... met with a lot of opposition.

I was a lonely Monkey.

Inconsistencies posted by Kyle regarding the Persistence undertaking were justified.  Changing theories and flawed research posted by CAPS were justified.

Tamikosmom's theories are constantly changing.  Tamikosmom's research is often flawed.  However ... Tamikosmom does not claim to be in the know.  She concedes that she is just speculating on info that is out there.  However ... CAPS is revered as the one in the know.

During that four month period ... I took a "complete" sabatical from the Natalee Holloway case.  When time permitted out of a busy summer ... following the Touch DNA vindication of John and Patsy Ramsey ... I joined a Jonbenet forum on the TOPIX site.

I returned to Scared Monkeys in the fall and ... joined the discussion on the Caylee Marie thread.  However ... when the latest ROV images exposed and ... Kyle's posts submitted to another forum emerged ... I felt somewhat vidicated ... at least on the Persistence issue soooo ... I tippy toed back to the Natalee Holloway thread..

If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... he should just spit it out ... forget the elusive clues.  If CAPS is the bearer of the truth ... justice for Natalee Holloway dictates that the FBI/ohn Q. Kelly/family of Natalee Holloway should be made aware of the truth in plain English which I know he grasps perfectly ... not cryptic messages.

IMO

Janet

Janet...I'm not sure that anything has changed. I am not sure either that we were on exactly the same page regarding Caps.

As stated a little while back, I have refrained from posting about this lately. If there is even a slim chance that Hotshot really knows what she is talking about, I do not want to be the one to get in the way of Justice For Natalee.

But I am armed and ready when we start that new thread.

[MumInOhio]

Snoopy..I hope its alright to ask...I've been wondering about Your little dog...How's He doing? 

O/T

Snoopy is doing well.  The vet is shocked!  If we can keep him stress free I think he'll be ok for a while.  Thanks for asking.

Oh and good morning/afternoon.  lol I slept in. haha.

Hi Snoopy...Really great news!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Another person we've been discussing is  Mr.Riverol.Worth more questions and,or discussion!

Who was the refinery sold to not long ago?

A company from Brazil, wasn't it?  Petrobras.

I thought that fell through or something...would have to research, again.....not happening tonight.

Don't know.  I saw a blurb on it last week while looking for something else.  Something about Petrobras backing off after a fire at the refinery.  Now that the refinery has been repaired they were thought to be closing the deal.  I'll see if I can find it again and post it for you.

I didn't forget about this and know you are at work.  Found this:

December 04, 2008
Valero still plans to sell its Aruba plant
 
Valero Energy said yesterday that it's taking its refineries in Ardmore, Okla. and Memphis, Tenn. off the auction block. The plants could have fetched as much as $1 billion each, according to published reports. But some analysts speculated that Valero couldn't get that much for the plants because of a global economic slowdown.
Valero stil has one refinery for sale -- its 275,000 barrel-a-day plant in Aruba in the Caribbean.
"Aruba is still under review," Valero spokesman Bill Day said. "We are currently in discussions with parties who are interested in the plant, but we don’t have any timetable for making a decision."

Valero bought the plant in 2004 from El Paso Corp. for $365 million.

— Vicki Vaughan

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/clockingin/2008/12/valero_still_plans_to_sell_its.html

*********
This may be what you were referring to, written in May, 2008:

Petrobras yet to decide on Valero Aruba refinery
.LOS ANGELES, May 15 (Reuters) - Petrobras (PETR4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) (PBR.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) has not yet made a decision on whether to purchase the Valero Energy (VLO.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) oil refinery in the southern Caribbean island of Aruba, Petrobras Americas President Alberto Guimaraes said on Thursday.

No timeline on a decision has been set, said Guimaraes,

There were hints before a May 9 company board of directors meeting that a decision on the 275,000-barrels-per-day refinery would be made.

Guimaraes said the board heard a report on the refinery but no formal proposal on the possible purchase.

"We have some opportunities," Guimaraes said. "There is no formal proposal to be approved or disapproved."

He would not comment on speculation that the plant owned by the biggest U.S. refiner is valued at about $2.8 billion.

Valero bought the Aruba refinery four years ago for $627 million.

Valero Chief Executive Bill Klesse said earlier this month that the company expected by the end of 2008 to have sold four refineries, including the one in Aruba.

Valero is expected to finish repairs to a 155,000-bpd vacuum distillation unit at the plant this month, published reports have shown. It was damaged in a late-January fire.

Valero's Klesse has said the sale of the Aruba plant would conclude in the second quarter of this year.

Guimaraes said he does not think that the fire affected Petrobras' interest in the refinery in Aruba, which is north of Venezuela.

Guimaraes spoke with Reuters before he addressed Town Hall Los Angeles at The Regency Club in Los Angeles on Wednesday. (Reporting by Bernard Woodall, editing by Richard Chang)

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSN1534975720080516

[MuffyBee]

Snoopy..I hope its alright to ask...I've been wondering about Your little dog...How's He doing? 

O/T

Snoopy is doing well.  The vet is shocked!  If we can keep him stress free I think he'll be ok for a while.  Thanks for asking.

Oh and good morning/afternoon.  lol I slept in. haha.

Hi Snoopy...Really great news!

     

[truthseeker2]

Another person we've been discussing is  Mr.Riverol.Worth more questions and,or discussion!

Who was the refinery sold to not long ago?

A company from Brazil, wasn't it?  Petrobras.

I thought that fell through or something...would have to research, again.....not happening tonight.

Don't know.  I saw a blurb on it last week while looking for something else.  Something about Petrobras backing off after a fire at the refinery.  Now that the refinery has been repaired they were thought to be closing the deal.  I'll see if I can find it again and post it for you.

I didn't forget about this and know you are at work.  Found this:

December 04, 2008
Valero still plans to sell its Aruba plant
 
Valero Energy said yesterday that it's taking its refineries in Ardmore, Okla. and Memphis, Tenn. off the auction block. The plants could have fetched as much as $1 billion each, according to published reports. But some analysts speculated that Valero couldn't get that much for the plants because of a global economic slowdown.
Valero stil has one refinery for sale -- its 275,000 barrel-a-day plant in Aruba in the Caribbean.
"Aruba is still under review," Valero spokesman Bill Day said. "We are currently in discussions with parties who are interested in the plant, but we don’t have any timetable for making a decision."

Valero bought the plant in 2004 from El Paso Corp. for $365 million.

— Vicki Vaughan

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/clockingin/2008/12/valero_still_plans_to_sell_its.html

*********
This may be what you were referring to, written in May, 2008:

Petrobras yet to decide on Valero Aruba refinery
.LOS ANGELES, May 15 (Reuters) - Petrobras (PETR4.SA: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) (PBR.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) has not yet made a decision on whether to purchase the Valero Energy (VLO.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) oil refinery in the southern Caribbean island of Aruba, Petrobras Americas President Alberto Guimaraes said on Thursday.

No timeline on a decision has been set, said Guimaraes,

There were hints before a May 9 company board of directors meeting that a decision on the 275,000-barrels-per-day refinery would be made.

Guimaraes said the board heard a report on the refinery but no formal proposal on the possible purchase.

"We have some opportunities," Guimaraes said. "There is no formal proposal to be approved or disapproved."

He would not comment on speculation that the plant owned by the biggest U.S. refiner is valued at about $2.8 billion.

Valero bought the Aruba refinery four years ago for $627 million.

Valero Chief Executive Bill Klesse said earlier this month that the company expected by the end of 2008 to have sold four refineries, including the one in Aruba.

Valero is expected to finish repairs to a 155,000-bpd vacuum distillation unit at the plant this month, published reports have shown. It was damaged in a late-January fire.

Valero's Klesse has said the sale of the Aruba plant would conclude in the second quarter of this year.

Guimaraes said he does not think that the fire affected Petrobras' interest in the refinery in Aruba, which is north of Venezuela.

Guimaraes spoke with Reuters before he addressed Town Hall Los Angeles at The Regency Club in Los Angeles on Wednesday. (Reporting by Bernard Woodall, editing by Richard Chang)

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSN1534975720080516

I knew about the Memphis one.  I work in Memphis and have lived in the area all my life.  I remember when it was called Delta Refinery.  meny, many years ago.

I think what you have posted rearding the Aruba refinery may have been what I saw.  The information about the fire stuck in my mind.  So...it appears they still have not sold it.

Thanks for posting that.

[EURobert]

Hi guys,

I got an email from Johan Remkes this afternoon - very brief - in respons to the email I sent Sunday:

Geachte heer ...,

Dank voor uw mail inzake de verdwijning van mej. N. Holloway. Tweede Kamerleden moeten naar mijn oordeel uiterst terughoudend zijn om zich in opsporings- en vervolgingsonderzoek te mengen. Die verantwoordelijkheid ligt bij de justitiële autoriteiten, primair op Aruba.

Hoogachtend en met vriendelijke groet,
Johan Remkes VVD 
Tweede Kamer der Staten- Generaal

••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Dear mister ...,

Thanks for your email concerning the disappearance of miss N. Holloway. Members of Parliament should, according to my judgement, be very reserved to interfere in a tracing- and prosecution-investigation. That responsibility lies at the justicial authorities, primarily at Aruba.

With regards and friendly greetings,

Johan Remkes VVD
Second Chamber of the States General

Well, that was to be expected.
But maybe the coming days he thinks again...
Or he can’t sleep one of the coming nights....
And he picks up the telephone and..... 

[COLOMBO]

http://acting411.blogspot.com/2008/11/lifetime-network-tv-movie-natalee.html

December 16, 2008


The Lifetime Network in association with Sony Pictures Television are currently in pre-production on the TV Movie "Natalee Holloway". Casting directors are now accepting photos and resumes.

*** Please submit photos and resumes by mail only. No phone calls or personal drop-offs ***

See the post titled Headshot and Resume Information regarding how to submit for acting roles.


Send photo and resume to:

Susan Bluestein Casting
Sunset/Gower Studios
1438 N. Gower St.
Bldg. 35, Ste. 156
Los Angees CA 90028


Production Company:

Sony Pictures Television
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Producers:

Robert M. Sertner - Executive Producer
Frank von Zerneck - Executive Producer

Director:

Mikael Salomon

Writer (Novel): Beth Holloway-Twitty

Filming Location:

Sony Studios
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Various on-location sets.


Cast:

TBA

Story:

The true story of high school senior Natalee Holloway and her disappearance in Aruba.

PVDS:  http://msxml.excite.com/excite/ws/results/Images/robocop%20boddicker/1/0/0/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

[texasmom]

Hi guys,

I got an email from Johan Remkes this afternoon - very brief - in respons to the email I sent Sunday:

Geachte heer ...,

Dank voor uw mail inzake de verdwijning van mej. N. Holloway. Tweede Kamerleden moeten naar mijn oordeel uiterst terughoudend zijn om zich in opsporings- en vervolgingsonderzoek te mengen. Die verantwoordelijkheid ligt bij de justitiële autoriteiten, primair op Aruba.

Hoogachtend en met vriendelijke groet,
Johan Remkes VVD 
Tweede Kamer der Staten- Generaal

••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Dear mister ...,

Thanks for your email concerning the disappearance of miss N. Holloway. Members of Parliament should, according to my judgement, be very reserved to interfere in a tracing- and prosecution-investigation. That responsibility lies at the justicial authorities, primarily at Aruba.

With regards and friendly greetings,

Johan Remkes VVD
Second Chamber of the States General

Well, that was to be expected.
But maybe the coming days he thinks again...
Or he can’t sleep one of the coming nights....
And he picks up the telephone and..... 

Thanks for sharing that EuroRobert!  We can hope, but some people just don't have a conscience.  

[caesu]

Hi guys,

I got an email from Johan Remkes this afternoon - very brief - in respons to the email I sent Sunday:

Geachte heer ...,

Dank voor uw mail inzake de verdwijning van mej. N. Holloway. Tweede Kamerleden moeten naar mijn oordeel uiterst terughoudend zijn om zich in opsporings- en vervolgingsonderzoek te mengen. Die verantwoordelijkheid ligt bij de justitiële autoriteiten, primair op Aruba.

Hoogachtend en met vriendelijke groet,
Johan Remkes VVD 
Tweede Kamer der Staten- Generaal

••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Dear mister ...,

Thanks for your email concerning the disappearance of miss N. Holloway. Members of Parliament should, according to my judgement, be very reserved to interfere in a tracing- and prosecution-investigation. That responsibility lies at the justicial authorities, primarily at Aruba.

With regards and friendly greetings,

Johan Remkes VVD
Second Chamber of the States General

Well, that was to be expected.
But maybe the coming days he thinks again...
Or he can’t sleep one of the coming nights....
And he picks up the telephone and..... 

yes, that was expected.

but Remkes was manager (korpsbeheerder) of the KLPD in 2006.
a new investigation (by the Rijksrecherche) is an acknowledgement that the KLPD investigation of 2006 wasn't thorough enough.