Lively Case Discussion #611 5/1 - 5/2/2007

[Sam]

It was Juan and he was from Venezuela. He was always very nice in chat but so was Fred.    

http://everwoodmusic.com/forum/post-21196.html&highlight=#21196

Thanks VMS for remembering that. Juan was the name that came to my mind as well but was not positive. Was Fred from Venezuela as well?

[klaasend]

One of the links I found for Meneses is an x-plane simulator discussion.

Klaas sees all!!!

Ever hear of any of the pimps being interested in aviation/games? Freddy, Joran, Sander? Does not have to be Val on the comp.

Not off the top of my head but I know that one of the Arends (z) was into it.  Don't remember which one now.

[Anna]

that night JORAN was VAL  

He was switching screen names.  I know my sisters password and can access her email.

There is still a time over lap.  I wonder if they have something like two accounts.  OK ALE would only check and look for one.

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[robots]

remember the 4 wheeler ???
was it guido's they took ??

[igsigs]

Good chance Paulus was NOT HOME that night. IMO

[Lala'sMom]

remember the 4 wheeler ???
was it guido's they took ??

quad racer...same thing...'nother name.

[Anna]

Anna I think if you do networking you can have 2 people on at the same time. Klaas or anyone do you know?

But according to PVDS there was only one computer in the house at the time.

You don't suppose they held out a whole computer on ALE do you???

     

[Dayhiker]

Interesting igsigs

I know the data on this is thin Rob. But this x-plane site is right up Meneses' alley. And i was going over the comp records recently so that was the first thing that popped into my mind.

Another thing i noticed is that VAL is not on the computer all night but jumps on right after the 8 minute phone call from Joran to Deepak. In the early AM...on a school night?

igisgs, the answers to the case have been in the cell, text, computer and land line records. This is not that complicated, unless they can't connect the dots.

Hammer, knows more about that 8 minute call.. that was the longest call ever between Joran and Deepak if I remember what KJ said about that call.. and I think I have that correct.

They had an internet plan in place very quickly. How do the phone calls match up to the internet activity timewise?

[vms]

It was Juan and he was from Venezuela. He was always very nice in chat but so was Fred.    

http://everwoodmusic.com/forum/post-21196.html&highlight=#21196

Thanks VMS for remembering that. Juan was the name that came to my mind as well but was not positive. Was Fred from Venezuela as well?

Noooooooooo

Totally different story, not related at all. I was just using that as an example of how people are not always as they seem. Sorry, I thought you were there when Fred was raised from the dead...

[Lala'sMom]

Good chance Paulus was NOT HOME that night. IMO

Where was Paulus?  At a party?  Waiting for the prize?

[Dayhiker]

Anna I think if you do networking you can have 2 people on at the same time. Klaas or anyone do you know?

But according to PVDS there was only one computer in the house at the time.

You don't suppose they held out a whole computer on ALE do you???

     

Or ALE held out a computer on the investigation.

[klaasend]

It was Juan and he was from Venezuela. He was always very nice in chat but so was Fred.    

http://everwoodmusic.com/forum/post-21196.html&highlight=#21196

Thanks VMS for remembering that. Juan was the name that came to my mind as well but was not positive. Was Fred from Venezuela as well?

Noooooooooo

Totally different story, not related at all. I was just using that as an example of how people are not always as they seem. Sorry, I thought you were there when Fred was raised from the dead...

I wasn't there but I watched it transpire.  Unbelievable

[robots]

remember the 4 wheeler ???
was it guido's they took ??

quad racer...same thing...'nother name.

yea, thats the one


what you think is up with that?

i have a little theory

but anxious to hear others also

[Anna]

Klaas,

Was that Larissa friend of Jorans, the one on the boat and the one in the shower, from Puerto Rico?

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[klaasend]

Anna I think if you do networking you can have 2 people on at the same time. Klaas or anyone do you know?

But according to PVDS there was only one computer in the house at the time.

You don't suppose they held out a whole computer on ALE do you???

     

Or ALE held out a computer on the investigation.

Didn't they make a point of saying they only had the one PC in the family room so they could monitor the boys PC use    

[klaasend]

Klaas,

Was that Larissa friend of Jorans, the one on the boat and the one in the shower, from Puerto Rico?

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I think Costa Rica which is where Andres is from as well.  Not Puerto Rico.

[robots]

Anna I think if you do networking you can have 2 people on at the same time. Klaas or anyone do you know?

But according to PVDS there was only one computer in the house at the time.

You don't suppose they held out a whole computer on ALE do you???

     

Or ALE held out a computer on the investigation.

Didn't they make a point of saying they only had the one PC in the family room so they could monitor the boys PC use    

good job anita and paulus

way to keep your eyes on JORAN  

[Dayhiker]

Anna I think if you do networking you can have 2 people on at the same time. Klaas or anyone do you know?

But according to PVDS there was only one computer in the house at the time.

You don't suppose they held out a whole computer on ALE do you???

     

Or ALE held out a computer on the investigation.

Didn't they make a point of saying they only had the one PC in the family room so they could monitor the boys PC use    

Yes they did say that, and it was in the main residence. The very place the judge wouldn't allow searched.

[Anna]

Klaas,

Was that Larissa friend of Jorans, the one on the boat and the one in the shower, from Puerto Rico?

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I think Costa Rica which is where Andres is from as well.  Not Puerto Rico.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, Costa Rica not Puerto Rico.  I wonder if she is friends with this guy as well.

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[igsigs]

Good chance Paulus was NOT HOME that night. IMO

Where was Paulus?  At a party?  Waiting for the prize?

Kids up/out all night? School night. Watching porn in the main house at 4am? Paulus could have been somewhere that he would not want Anita to know about.