Natalee Case Discussion #848 9/25/2010 - 10/7/10

[sandy leiva]

If Rob doesn't mind, I'm going to stand next to him and we can call this little area "vent corner" for the moment.

I'm sick and tired of Castro Castro, supposedly the "toughest prison in the world", letting Joran van der Sloot have a freakin' run of the place!  WTH is going on?  Now he's on tape buying drugs?  Seriously?

For crying out loud, how is one day in solitary justified as sufficient for the complete hissy fit he threw the last time we heard about him?  Tried to hit a guard, tried to run away, threw his clothes on the floor & kicked them, and screamed about someone wanting to kill him.  Well you stinking fruit loop how do think your victims felt?  What is wrong with the director of this prison?  What happened to all the influence Mr. Flores had?  Why the hell isn't Joran being beaten up regularly until he learns to sit down and shut up?

I can't wait to hear how (or should I say 'if') he's going to be punished for breaking the law by buying drugs while in custody.  What are they going to do - make him sit in his cell for an hour?  And if his cell doesn't even have a window, where is smoking pot?  Is he smoking it with the guards?  That's a solid way of keeping him from escaping!  Come on.

Ugh.

not to worry lifesong Joran has embarassed the prison officials time after time. Soon his time will run out with them-sl

[Kermit]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22717-in-memoriam-di-david-d-webb.html



http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22698-boluntario-di-search-a-rescue-den-problema-mey-miya-for-di-renaissance-island.html

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4783&offId=0&offDate=2010-10

1 dia pasa | Fecha: 05/10/2010 | Horario: 12:12
AMBULANCE A BAY CU URGENCIA NA HAVANA PA UN DIVER CU A HAYA PROBLEMA DEN LAMA, E VICTIMA D.W. A FAYECE


UPDATE e victima no a logre, ela fayece.... ta trata aki di David Cedric Webb naci na Aruba 3 di mei 1968 y tabata biba na Siribana 12A. Na famianan di e fayecido ta bay nos mas sincero palabranan di condolencia.

Papiamentu translation:

1 day happen | fecha: 05/10/2010 | horario: 12:12 ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at havana before one diver cu owing to attain problem in lama, the victima d.w. owing to fayece update the victima not owing to logre, ela fayece.... is deal here by david cedric webb naci at aruba 3 by half 1968 y was be alive at siribana 12a. at famianan by the fayecido is bay we more sincero words by condolencia.

------------------------------------------------------
not sure if this is the right link...no time to check...The Webb last name made me think of this

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM »

Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

Webb Plumbing Services & Co.
 Review
Address: Siribana 12A, Santa Cruz
Phone: (297) 963-9465
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/categories/shops-services/plumbing-contractors/

[wreck]

If Rob doesn't mind, I'm going to stand next to him and we can call this little area "vent corner" for the moment.

I'm sick and tired of Castro Castro, supposedly the "toughest prison in the world", letting Joran van der Sloot have a freakin' run of the place!  WTH is going on?  Now he's on tape buying drugs?  Seriously?

For crying out loud, how is one day in solitary justified as sufficient for the complete hissy fit he threw the last time we heard about him?  Tried to hit a guard, tried to run away, threw his clothes on the floor & kicked them, and screamed about someone wanting to kill him.  Well you stinking fruit loop how do think your victims felt?  What is wrong with the director of this prison?  What happened to all the influence Mr. Flores had?  Why the hell isn't Joran being beaten up regularly until he learns to sit down and shut up?

I can't wait to hear how (or should I say 'if') he's going to be punished for breaking the law by buying drugs while in custody.  What are they going to do - make him sit in his cell for an hour?  And if his cell doesn't even have a window, where is smoking pot?  Is he smoking it with the guards?  That's a solid way of keeping him from escaping!  Come on.

Ugh.

not to worry lifesong Joran has embarassed the prison officials time after time. Soon his time will run out with them-sl

I agree -- his antics won't set well with those officials, his guards, and especially his fellow prisoners. He is digging his own grave.

[Kermit]

Thank you Crazy Baby.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22717-in-memoriam-di-david-d-webb.html



http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22698-boluntario-di-search-a-rescue-den-problema-mey-miya-for-di-renaissance-island.html

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4783&offId=0&offDate=2010-10

1 dia pasa | Fecha: 05/10/2010 | Horario: 12:12
AMBULANCE A BAY CU URGENCIA NA HAVANA PA UN DIVER CU A HAYA PROBLEMA DEN LAMA, E VICTIMA D.W. A FAYECE


UPDATE e victima no a logre, ela fayece.... ta trata aki di David Cedric Webb naci na Aruba 3 di mei 1968 y tabata biba na Siribana 12A. Na famianan di e fayecido ta bay nos mas sincero palabranan di condolencia.

Papiamentu translation:

1 day happen | fecha: 05/10/2010 | horario: 12:12 ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at havana before one diver cu owing to attain problem in lama, the victima d.w. owing to fayece update the victima not owing to logre, ela fayece.... is deal here by david cedric webb naci at aruba 3 by half 1968 y was be alive at siribana 12a. at famianan by the fayecido is bay we more sincero words by condolencia.

------------------------------------------------------
not sure if this is the right link...no time to check...The Webb last name made me think of this

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM »

Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

Webb Plumbing Services & Co.
 Review
Address: Siribana 12A, Santa Cruz
Phone: (297) 963-9465
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/categories/shops-services/plumbing-contractors/

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=9898

· Close · Aruba, October 6th, 2010


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 22 MAY 1990 under serial number 9937.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
 
Business address   SIRIBANA 12-A, SANTA CRUZ
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
Date of commencement   22 MAY 1990
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS

WEBB, DAVID CEDRIC;
Born in   ARUBA on 3 MAY 1968
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   22 MAY 1990
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

LOODGIETERSBEDRIJF/AANNEMERSBEDRIJF.

PLUMBING COMPANY / CONSTRUCTION.
 

[wreck]

The help was not late. The victim could not be taught.

   
I realize the translation is poor, but, geeez!

[Lifesong]

If Rob doesn't mind, I'm going to stand next to him and we can call this little area "vent corner" for the moment.

I'm sick and tired of Castro Castro, supposedly the "toughest prison in the world", letting Joran van der Sloot have a freakin' run of the place!  WTH is going on?  Now he's on tape buying drugs?  Seriously?

For crying out loud, how is one day in solitary justified as sufficient for the complete hissy fit he threw the last time we heard about him?  Tried to hit a guard, tried to run away, threw his clothes on the floor & kicked them, and screamed about someone wanting to kill him.  Well you stinking fruit loop how do think your victims felt?  What is wrong with the director of this prison?  What happened to all the influence Mr. Flores had?  Why the hell isn't Joran being beaten up regularly until he learns to sit down and shut up?

I can't wait to hear how (or should I say 'if') he's going to be punished for breaking the law by buying drugs while in custody.  What are they going to do - make him sit in his cell for an hour?  And if his cell doesn't even have a window, where is smoking pot?  Is he smoking it with the guards?  That's a solid way of keeping him from escaping!  Come on.

Ugh.

not to worry lifesong Joran has embarassed the prison officials time after time. Soon his time will run out with them-sl

I agree -- his antics won't set well with those officials, his guards, and especially his fellow prisoners. He is digging his own grave.

Thank you both!  I hope they get fed up with him sooner rather than later, lol.  He's ruining their reputation as a tough place, imo.

[Lifesong]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22717-in-memoriam-di-david-d-webb.html



http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22698-boluntario-di-search-a-rescue-den-problema-mey-miya-for-di-renaissance-island.html

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4783&offId=0&offDate=2010-10

1 dia pasa | Fecha: 05/10/2010 | Horario: 12:12
AMBULANCE A BAY CU URGENCIA NA HAVANA PA UN DIVER CU A HAYA PROBLEMA DEN LAMA, E VICTIMA D.W. A FAYECE


UPDATE e victima no a logre, ela fayece.... ta trata aki di David Cedric Webb naci na Aruba 3 di mei 1968 y tabata biba na Siribana 12A. Na famianan di e fayecido ta bay nos mas sincero palabranan di condolencia.

Papiamentu translation:

1 day happen | fecha: 05/10/2010 | horario: 12:12 ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at havana before one diver cu owing to attain problem in lama, the victima d.w. owing to fayece update the victima not owing to logre, ela fayece.... is deal here by david cedric webb naci at aruba 3 by half 1968 y was be alive at siribana 12a. at famianan by the fayecido is bay we more sincero words by condolencia.

------------------------------------------------------
not sure if this is the right link...no time to check...The Webb last name made me think of this

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM »

Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

Webb Plumbing Services & Co.
 Review
Address: Siribana 12A, Santa Cruz
Phone: (297) 963-9465
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/categories/shops-services/plumbing-contractors/

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=9898

· Close · Aruba, October 6th, 2010


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 22 MAY 1990 under serial number 9937.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
 
Business address   SIRIBANA 12-A, SANTA CRUZ
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
Date of commencement   22 MAY 1990
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS

WEBB, DAVID CEDRIC;
Born in   ARUBA on 3 MAY 1968
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   22 MAY 1990
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

LOODGIETERSBEDRIJF/AANNEMERSBEDRIJF.

PLUMBING COMPANY / CONSTRUCTION.
 

Thanks for this info, Texasmom.  I was reading the article earlier this afternoon and wondered if this guy could have been a) one of the divers that sampled the contents of the trap and b) the brother of that punk that called to try and threaten Kermit over the phone.

[wreck]

The help was not late. The victim could not be taught.

   
I realize the translation is poor, but, geeez!

I hope no one thought I was trying to impune the "messenger" ---- I'm merely laughing at how Pap is translated. (Who knows -- this is what they might really mean!!)

 

[billb's daughter]

Thanks CBB.....I like it....

[carpe noctem]

Love mine too, thanks CBB!

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22717-in-memoriam-di-david-d-webb.html



http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22698-boluntario-di-search-a-rescue-den-problema-mey-miya-for-di-renaissance-island.html

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=4783&offId=0&offDate=2010-10

1 dia pasa | Fecha: 05/10/2010 | Horario: 12:12
AMBULANCE A BAY CU URGENCIA NA HAVANA PA UN DIVER CU A HAYA PROBLEMA DEN LAMA, E VICTIMA D.W. A FAYECE


UPDATE e victima no a logre, ela fayece.... ta trata aki di David Cedric Webb naci na Aruba 3 di mei 1968 y tabata biba na Siribana 12A. Na famianan di e fayecido ta bay nos mas sincero palabranan di condolencia.

Papiamentu translation:

1 day happen | fecha: 05/10/2010 | horario: 12:12 ambulance owing to bay cu urgencia at havana before one diver cu owing to attain problem in lama, the victima d.w. owing to fayece update the victima not owing to logre, ela fayece.... is deal here by david cedric webb naci at aruba 3 by half 1968 y was be alive at siribana 12a. at famianan by the fayecido is bay we more sincero words by condolencia.

------------------------------------------------------
not sure if this is the right link...no time to check...The Webb last name made me think of this

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM »

Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

Webb Plumbing Services & Co.
 Review
Address: Siribana 12A, Santa Cruz
Phone: (297) 963-9465
http://www.yellowpages-aruba.com/categories/shops-services/plumbing-contractors/

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=9898

· Close · Aruba, October 6th, 2010


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 22 MAY 1990 under serial number 9937.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
 
Business address   SIRIBANA 12-A, SANTA CRUZ
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   WEBB PLUMBING SERVICE & SMALL CONTRACTOR
Date of commencement   22 MAY 1990
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS

WEBB, DAVID CEDRIC;
Born in   ARUBA on 3 MAY 1968
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   22 MAY 1990
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

LOODGIETERSBEDRIJF/AANNEMERSBEDRIJF.

PLUMBING COMPANY / CONSTRUCTION.
 

Thanks for this info, Texasmom.  I was reading the article earlier this afternoon and wondered if this guy could have been a) one of the divers that sampled the contents of the trap and b) the brother of that punk that called to try and threaten Kermit over the phone.

This article mentions his brothers & sisters ? that are also part of the same group...
http://www.upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=papiamento
Rumannan = brothers & sisters
Subrina    = niece (Portuguese, Sobrinha; Spanish, Sobrina)

http://www.diario.aw/2010/10/sarfa-ta-pidi-pa-no-specula-cu-fayecimento-di-nan-voluntario-david-webb/

sarfa is ask before not specula cu fayecimento by they voluntario david webb

publication: diaranson, 6 october 2010.

categoria: general

have to keep result by autopsia

oranjestad (aan): the organizacion sarfa, search and rescue, in one conferencia by prensa teni yesterday in oranan by afternoon owing to give one splicacion amplio by all thing cu owing to happen cu owing to conduci at fayecimento by they acolyte voluntario david cedric webb, naci at aruba, day 3 by half 1968. chairman by sarfa adolf croes, cu one voz notablemente complete by dolor, owing to splica cu they colega david webb have six year in they organizacion, together cu some acolyte by her family more, esta her rumannan danilo y rudy, y her sobrina danielsa. david by 42 year by edad, is one acolyte activo y always owing to mantene her self at altitude by all thing cu have by haber cu search and rescue y trainingnan cu is worde organiza door by the organizacion. croes owing to splica cu before motibo by informacion eroneo cu is circula in comunidad, owing to laydown cu sarfa owing to dicidi by be called the conferencia by prensa before suministra the informacion corecto by will sucedido. monday in oranan by afternoon owing to come into the informe cu have one dive-boat be called “amigo” cu owing to stick on the rif behind renaissance island. sarfa owing to depart cu they boat sigmund edmundis before brinda aid necesario. during cu was give asistencia, one wave big owing to hoist they nave stick on the rif also before cual not can owing to follow give asistencia. at once owing to beat alarma close aruba ports authority y valero marine before give they asistencia. the yacht “big wy” by valero at once owing to depart before brinda asistencia. owing to saca the boat by sarfa for by rif y djey owing to saca “amigo”. at instant cu owing to bay lastre before trece earth, past owing to bolter door by the weight abordo (tankinan by buceo y another materialnan). the weight owing to sake for by ekilibrio y bolter this. owing to lastre so y trece at surfside, caminda cu aid by another person owing to succeed bire. owing to laydown on trailer y owing to hibe back before her owner. entire the at night at surfside, david webb was present y owing to brinda aid till in oranan late by at night. the at night ey owing to remain word cu will go back at renaissance island before busca the anchor by sarfa cu owing to worde throw in lama. yesterday morning they owing to worde compaña also before owner by the boat by dive before see if can encounter algo also cu they owing to lose hour cu the dive-boat owing to bolter on lama. croes owing to splica cu had more voluntario abordo. before more or less 11.55 owing to come into informacion cu one by the voluntarionan by sarfa is in problem y is in estado critico. the had her life-jacket dress y owing to descend at water manner procedura prescribi. the jacket do not by blow but is wanta the person y cabez on water. the informacion is follow say cu her brother is dunando the victima cpr on beach. the brother during the exit here was capitan by sigfrid edmundis y is entrena before give aid in emergencia. all the time all autoridad owing to worde poni before altitude y owing to bay before elugar. one boat owing to depart for by surfside cu personal by ambulance abordo before brinda asistencia. autoridadnan owing to dicidi by bring the victima platform by oranjestad caminda dr. lin owing to constata dead before 12.55 y the curpa owing to worde take in beslag before determina the cause exact by fayecimento by david. the cause exact will worde give at family y they will dicidi if will publica this. all esnan cu was present owing to worde atendi door by bureau slachtoffer hulp. adolf croes owing to say cu despite cu not was deal by one rescate, more cu never they owing to worde confronta cu the riesgonan cu they're core before aid comunidad. pesey they have aprecio before all they voluntarionan, cu is riesga they vida before aid another. ruben croes, another acolyte by sarfa owing to splica cu the informacion cu past owing to attain for by danilo, the brother by the fayecido, cu two acolyte owing to descend at water before busca the anchor. y david owing to descend after. by hour cu the victima owing to descend y before see cu danilo owing to bay buske owing to tarda 20 minuut. hour cu past owing to haye, past owing to constata cu the not was landando. y the life-jacket cu the had is suppose by owing to glove on water. then niun person know cu exactitud kico can owing to happen. more still because the not owing to saca neither water. ruben owing to say cu at the instant here not can bay specula y is mihor before keep on result by autopsia. adolf croes at end owing to say cu david is one person cu is bakea on lama. the have her own boat y is one good landando. the do not one person cu is take riesgo. if the situation do not conoci pe, the will not take the riesgo. at the instant by the sucedido had more person in water, y owing to haci one evaluacion by the riesgonan first cu owing to descend at water. sarfa is send word by condolencia at parents by david, her rumannan, wife y child y other family.

[texasmom]

The help was not late. The victim could not be taught.

   
I realize the translation is poor, but, geeez!

I hope no one thought I was trying to impune the "messenger" ---- I'm merely laughing at how Pap is translated. (Who knows -- this is what they might really mean!!)

 

I think the whole language is designed to confuse.   

[wreck]

Back to the judge in the K vs Dr P case, ---- the judge has made a "preliminary" ruling that the case is not "complex". I wonder if Dr. Phil's atty's will now follow through with their "Summary Judgement" filing????

[Magnolia]

I wonder if David Webb had been to the bank and had a cup of coffee before the dive.

I also wonder, like Lifesong, if he was part of the recovery crew that dove on the fish trap.

[texasmom]

I was wondering the same as Magnolia...this is what they're saying the autopsy said.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22766-david-webb-a-haya-atake-celebral.html

Papiamentu translation:

david webb owing to attain atake celebral

wednesday, 06 october 2010 22:58

quite owing to remain babuca con one boluntario cu quite year by experiencia, cu have her same boat can owing to hoga yudando others on lama. here we is referi at david webb that owing to die in the lama tuesday cu owing to happen. the was have her salbabida dress cumpliendo cu all the reglanan cu sarfa have. past owing to descend for by the boat cumpliendo also cu the reglanan cu have. pesey quite owing to ask is kico genuinely owing to happen cu david webb. one autopsia was necesario. family not owing to see problem before attain the berdad by the dead by david. diaranson morning the autopsia did take luga. result owing to indicate cu david webb owing to attain one atake celebral masivo. the attain enough blood in her cabes. seems cu the was have dolor by cabes the dianan cu owing to happen. naturally neither person can owing to think cu the salud was critico so. several acolyte more by the family is aid sarfa. saturday at present they will despedi by dje at mass at sta cruz. once more paz at her restonan y forza at the family.

[Bearlyhere]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

TM, you're home!

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79239.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Volunteer SARFA dies in recovery action
October 6, 2010, 14:02 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The 42-year-old volunteer David Cedric Webb yesterday morning by unknown causes deceased during salvage operations of the Search and Rescue Foundation Aruba (SARFA). The body has been subpoenaed for investigation. Autopsy to determine cause of death of the victim.

This SARFA President Adolf Croes announced yesterday at a press conference. Croes said the incident: "We went back again yesterday morning to the reef behind Renaissance Island to search for our anchorage. That night before we were lost during an operation in which the boat went Amigo help. This was run on the reef. "Because of the rough weather and high waves, however, the lifeboat is also thrown on the reef and got stuck. Another boat came to their aid and eventually all boats to the side could be achieved. It lost a lifeboat from SARFA Amigo anchor and the boat lost some diving equipment.
The victim was one of the volunteers during the recovery SARFA went into the water to search for the lost anchor. Around midday it was reported that Webb was found dead in the water. SARFA Another employee, a brother of the victim by chance, given Webb on the beach first aid. A neighboring boat diving company Fly and Dive ambulance workers brought to the victim. The help was not late. The victim could not be taught. The initial findings of the doctor is the victim not killed by drowning. What was the cause of death, autopsy should tell. SARFA stressed that the victim was a good swimmer, took no unnecessary risks and adhere to the procedures taken. He also had a life vest so that his head is always supposed to stay above water, even if he loses consciousness.

TM, you're home!

Yes I am, Hi Sis!   

[Bearlyhere]

This is what we need to send into prison for Joran

A SECURITY MONKEY

(I am posting link as I can't get it up anyother way)

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/

Thanks, Blue Moon!  My son loves those Trunk Monkey videos, we laugh over them for hours.  It's been a while since we have imbibed.

 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I was wondering the same as Magnolia...this is what they're saying the autopsy said.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/22766-david-webb-a-haya-atake-celebral.html

Papiamentu translation:

david webb owing to attain atake celebral

wednesday, 06 october 2010 22:58

quite owing to remain babuca con one boluntario cu quite year by experiencia, cu have her same boat can owing to hoga yudando others on lama. here we is referi at david webb that owing to die in the lama tuesday cu owing to happen. the was have her salbabida dress cumpliendo cu all the reglanan cu sarfa have. past owing to descend for by the boat cumpliendo also cu the reglanan cu have. pesey quite owing to ask is kico genuinely owing to happen cu david webb. one autopsia was necesario. family not owing to see problem before attain the berdad by the dead by david. diaranson morning the autopsia did take luga. result owing to indicate cu david webb owing to attain one atake celebral masivo. the attain enough blood in her cabes. seems cu the was have dolor by cabes the dianan cu owing to happen. naturally neither person can owing to think cu the salud was critico so. several acolyte more by the family is aid sarfa. saturday at present they will despedi by dje at mass at sta cruz. once more paz at her restonan y forza at the family.

So they are saying it was a cerebral hemorrhage (sp)?  At least it's a change from suicide.  No insult intended to the departed or his family, just referring to the many deaths that we've discussed here.

Thanks, Texasmom.