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Topic: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 - 11/26/10 (Read 332733 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: kkthy on November 23, 2010, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: can on November 23, 2010, 01:23:54 PM
kkthy -
I'd like to thank you and your husband and friends for doing the right thing.
There is someone who waits to be identified. Who deserves to be identified.
Perhaps there is another family longing to know if this is their loved one.
I hope in time we will learn, who that is.
Good and decent people are rare and you are among them.
God bless you and your family and the Beulieu's (sp)
and God bless Natalee and her family.
Can,
Thank you so much. The news was quite a let down today. If we are asked for a 2nd interview, I will be sure to express those same thoughts that this "person" needs to be identified. I know that saying this sounds a bit strange, but I really feel that this jaw bone wanted to be found... like something was drawing Gil toward it. They really need to find out who it belongs to.
Your so awesome!! Thank you for treating the remains of whoever is lost out there with so much respect and thank you for coming here to share all you knew. There are many of us here that hope and pray everyday that Natalee is returned home. Although this wasn't her, maybe someones loved one can be returned to them because of you all.
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BOYCOTT AND.......
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Quote from: MuffyBee on November 23, 2010, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 23, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
BOYCOTT AND.......
I needed that, Klaas!
Oh yeah!!
BIG TIME!!
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Quote from: klaasend on November 23, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
BOYCOTT AND.......
RIGHT ON KLASS
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Maybe it's
Amy Lynn Bradley
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Race: Caucasian
Age: 23
Hair: Short Brown
Eyes: Green
Height: 5' 6"
Weight: 115 Pounds
Tattoos on:Left Shoulder, Right Ankle, Navel (Belly Button), Lower Back.
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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We "felt sure" that Dave and Beth had been notified.
But this is Holland and Aruba
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We "felt sure" that since there was a big hoopla, it was Natalee.
But this is Aruba and Holland.
We "felt sure" that as soon as an ID could be made, if it weren't Natalee, they would simply announce that she had been excluded but an investigation would continue to determine identity.
But this is Holland and Aruba.
That's the way of it. People of good character, despite a multitude of contrary evidence, instinctively expect others to have similar ethics.
We aren't dealing with "normal". We are dealing with sick, sadistic bastards. They exist. They particularly exist in high places in Aruba and Holland. I HATE THEM ALL!
One Down and his spawn on the way. TICK TOCK.....
I'm going shopping to buy food for Thanksgiving. I'm thankful I get hopeful, and I'm thankful I can be counted among you all. This isn't over; not by a long shot. Aruba's bone littered beaches need to be bare! I'm starting with a CME cruise this Spring for Physicians that makes a stop in Aruba. Not if I can help it, and I think I can...............
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Quote from: jen3560 on November 23, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
CALL ME CRAZY.......... (it's in my name), BUT I have an opinion about this whole thing.
I believe the bone was Natalee's.
I believe the bone slipped through the crab trap.
I believe they weighed the outcome if they admitted it was Natalee's, and their judgement has been consistently WRONG.
I believe that Renho would not have set herself up to be wrong when she made her prediction, and the fact that she did tells me that the spin machine had been notified. No need for that if you're dealing with truth.
I believe they either have Natalee's remains or they have destroyed them.
I believe they wanted to wait to Thanksgiving to try to bury the story, but pressure was mounting.
I believe they will regret what they've done. We need to all commit ourselves to that cause.
I believe all that you believe, CBB.
But I also believe Joran laughed when he heard of the jaw bone being found - because
he knew
ALE had recovered her remains from that cage, and therefore thought this couldn't belong to Natalee.
But I agree - that jawbone likely slipped thru the bottom of that cage at some point before Persistence found it.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: Tylergal on November 23, 2010, 01:55:08 PM
Seeing as how that took weeks to identify a wisdom tooth, and they already had Beth's DNA from long ago (which would/should have been kept in an open file), it makes me wonder: Did they know this was Natalee upon receipt but they could not admit it for fear of showing how incompetent their baby island and the Hague are, and so they had to wait for another young Caucasian jawbone to arrive or to be found, so that if Beth requested this for AFIP, they would have another ready for shipment to AFIP if requested by Beth's family members.
Yes, right on target, Tyler! Exactly!
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 01:37:36 PM
For posters who are newer to this case, you've just witnessed an example of how Aruba and Holland have handled this case from day one.
Welcome to the Natalee Holloway case.
I feel bad for the Holloway family. All I can say is that they must be a VERY VERY STRONG FAMILY to go though that they have gone through for so many years. My prayers are with them right now. I now understand their hesitation to get too excited of this recent find.
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: AZSunny on November 23, 2010, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 01:37:36 PM
For posters who are newer to this case, you've just witnessed an example of how Aruba and Holland have handled this case from day one.
Welcome to the Natalee Holloway case.
I knew what to expect after all these years, but it still makes me so sad. I hate that place.
When will we ever learn, huh? Although I would rather be an eternal optimist and hope for the best than an evil rat bastard obstructionist hiding the truth and preventing the facts to come forward of a missing girl.
Law enforcement that was willing to accept the lie that two black security guards were guilty because the last three people ever seen with Natalee said so. Even though they never thought to check the security cameras.
A place where after holes were dug in the landfill to search for Natalee, they were mysteriously covered up over night.
The continued lack of pursuing JVDS because his statements cannot be held against him because he lies all the time.
How do you people in Aruba feel, knowing that because you did nothing, even worse, there was an obstruction of justice that Joran sits in a prison guilty of yet another murder? Hmm?
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on November 23, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
CALL ME CRAZY.......... (it's in my name), BUT I have an opinion about this whole thing.
I believe the bone was Natalee's.
I believe the bone slipped through the crab trap.
I believe they weighed the outcome if they admitted it was Natalee's, and their judgement has been consistently WRONG.
I believe that Renho would not have set herself up to be wrong when she made her prediction, and the fact that she did tells me that the spin machine had been notified. No need for that if you're dealing with truth.
I believe they either have Natalee's remains or they have destroyed them.
I believe they wanted to wait to Thanksgiving to try to bury the story, but pressure was mounting.
I believe they will regret what they've done. We need to all commit ourselves to that cause.
I believe all that you believe, CBB.
But I also believe Joran laughed when he heard of the jaw bone being found - because
he knew
ALE had recovered her remains from that cage, and therefore thought this couldn't belong to Natalee.
But I agree - that jawbone likely slipped thru the bottom of that cage at some point before Persistence found it.
Question...can we request the jawbone and test it ourselves? Or because it was found in Aruba, it has to stay in Aruba? I do not trust Aruba either......
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Justice for Natalee Holloway never stood a chance.
Janet
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'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Dec. 5th
updated 12/6/2005 9:18:21 AM ET
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 -- at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn.
They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one. ….
What was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on June the 5th.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348437/
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #853 11/23/10 -
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Quote from: WesleyBear on November 23, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on November 23, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: CBB on November 23, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
CALL ME CRAZY.......... (it's in my name), BUT I have an opinion about this whole thing.
I believe the bone was Natalee's.
I believe the bone slipped through the crab trap.
I believe they weighed the outcome if they admitted it was Natalee's, and their judgement has been consistently WRONG.
I believe that Renho would not have set herself up to be wrong when she made her prediction, and the fact that she did tells me that the spin machine had been notified. No need for that if you're dealing with truth.
I believe they either have Natalee's remains or they have destroyed them.
I believe they wanted to wait to Thanksgiving to try to bury the story, but pressure was mounting.
I believe they will regret what they've done. We need to all commit ourselves to that cause.
I believe all that you believe, CBB.
But I also believe Joran laughed when he heard of the jaw bone being found - because
he knew
ALE had recovered her remains from that cage, and therefore thought this couldn't belong to Natalee.
But I agree - that jawbone likely slipped thru the bottom of that cage at some point before Persistence found it.
Question...can we request the jawbone and test it ourselves? Or because it was found in Aruba, it has to stay in Aruba? I do not trust Aruba either......
I don't know, but note that the media is saying the tooth will be removed. We wouldn't get the actual bone found, IMO. I believe it was Natalee's. JMO.
Thanks for that post Red. Well said and I needed that.
OT:
IBE has asked about her avi several times. It's in my thread, if someone could relay that to her if she shows up before I get back, I'd appreciate it. I'm off to the grocery store and will see you all a little later.
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Just like all the other evidence collected and sent to be examined -- we don't know if they really sent the ACTUAL real samples. The chain of control is just a complete joke.
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Quote from: wreck on November 23, 2010, 02:36:06 PM
Just like all the other evidence collected and sent to be examined -- we don't know if they really sent the ACTUAL real samples. The chain of control is just a complete joke.
I thought we would be breaking out the cigars Wreck..
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I just don't even know what to say. We really should not be surprised. It all went according to the script they've played by for 5.5 years! I don't know what to think right now. But I do know that I feel desperate. Yes, desperate because time is not kind to any remains wherever they may be. This may be our last window of opportunity to get her home. Yes, answers can still come as long as Joran is breathing but we want to get her home. I went to bed thinking about how Natalee put that bone there to be found so that her family could have closure. I slept with the tv on all night thinking somthing may happen in the middle of the night. And damn it if it wasn't all a cruel hoax.
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on November 23, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Apparently Joran knew.......remember he laughed when he heard the bone being found.....
DIG UP THE SLOOT POOL Surround!!!
I agree.
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Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr on November 23, 2010, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: wreck on November 23, 2010, 02:36:06 PM
Just like all the other evidence collected and sent to be examined -- we don't know if they really sent the ACTUAL real samples. The chain of control is just a complete joke.
I thought we would be breaking out the cigars Wreck..
Me too!
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Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr on November 23, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 23, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
BOYCOTT AND.......
Klaas, Angie911, Monkeys "let's roll!" (those words are in honor of you, Angeie911)
Time to keep the pressure screw on Aruba, NL., Joran, Joran's family, the FBI, our terrorism laws that apply here, our government and any one, anyway to think outside the box.
Think protesting the travel shows will help again?
IMO no body, no crime. Body gone for sure=cremation by Paulus. I always thought she'd be under the fountain next to the pool but, no go, someday could be found. Why did Anita know about NH panties in such detail? For goodness sake, Anita, try to save your child's Soul, yours and your family's.
Let's not let the Justice for Stephany go out of our mines; more than one way to skin the terrible cat=Joran
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Has any of the online publications/networks post a transcript of a transcript of Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein's statement to the media this morning this morning?
Thanks
Janet
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Results of Bone Analysis on Possible Holloway Link to Be Announced Tuesday
Published November 22, 2010
The results of the forensic analysis on a jawbone found this month in Aruba will be announced on Tuesday, potentially providing the first piece of concrete evidence in the death of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway.
Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the Aruba Prosecutor's Office, told Fox News she did not have results of the analysis early Monday.
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein will make a statement following the announcement, she said
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/22/results-bone-analysis-possible-holloway-link-announced-tuesday/
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