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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09 - 11/20/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 18, 2009, 09:29:45 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/Caylee20.gif)

Justice for Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: cece on November 04, 2009, 12:32:54 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 12:32:57 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 12:33:01 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: Stacey on November 04, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
Hey Fanny you are so fast with the pictures in the last thread thanks so much for posting it.
Yes that is the picture of little Caylee that I think is GA tat

Monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
Hey Fanny you are so fast with the pictures in the last thread thanks so much for posting it.
Yes that is the picture of little Caylee that I think is GA tat

Monkey hugs

Just for you, I will do it again.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/caylee2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 04, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::  Justice for Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: NickandNora on November 04, 2009, 12:40:50 PM
Hey Fanny you are so fast with the pictures in the last thread thanks so much for posting it.
Yes that is the picture of little Caylee that I think is GA tat

Monkey hugs
Just for you, I will do it again.

I love that one. I meant to post a thanks for the last one of the bathing beauty you put up Fanny...indeed, now THAT was a bathing beauty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 04, 2009, 12:41:31 PM
Thank you for posting that picture of Caylee Fanny - I love that one  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 04, 2009, 12:46:43 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 04, 2009, 12:53:46 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
You would think that, I don't have any tattoos, but the colors sure look washed out. I'm scared to even think what their next move is going to be.  ::MonkeyEek::   Has anyone found out more info on Joy? I know she has been Baker Acted 5/6 times, but what else has she done? Now I'm very curious, and can't imagine that the defense would use her as a witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 04, 2009, 01:21:21 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:21:24 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:23:20 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::
I almost hope they have the nerve to do so.....and then we can watch the State rip her credibility to pieces. Next?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 04, 2009, 01:32:12 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:35:58 PM
11/2/2009     Answer to Amended Complaint/Petition     AND AMENDED COUNTER-CLAIM AND AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES     ANTHONY CASEY
11/3/2009    Answer to Counter Claim/Petition    Answer to Counter Claim/Petition    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details_Ody.aspx?SessionID=44b07ad6-25cf-4116-8c01-f8b0015e99c5&CaseID=1450829


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 01:40:11 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::
I almost hope they have the nerve to do so.....and then we can watch the State rip her credibility to pieces. Next?  ::MonkeyTongue::

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?

I;m looking under "Adult Namce/ case lookup. Is that correct? I am court records illiterate.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:45:57 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.

They knew the day they picked the car up from the tow yard, I have no doubt. I agree the timing is signigicant. They almost would have had to go out of state, or even the country, to have the work done for that little secret to go undetected.

I found this link that talks about tats and the sun.  http://tattoo.about.com/cs/tatfaq/a/tanning.htm
Snipped:

Brand New Tattoo
Don't put sunblock on a new or fresh tattoo - follow your artist's aftercare instructions and keep your tattoo covered or shaded with clothing for the first few weeks. You can use sunblock once your tattoo has finished peeling and has grown it's first protective layer of skin. But sunblock alone is not going to be sufficient for a new tattoo if it is exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time. A tattoo is usually considered well-healed after about 3 months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 01:48:56 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

Where did you see that LOCA?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 01:50:35 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?

I;m looking under "Adult Namce/ case lookup. Is that correct? I am court records illiterate.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I can't even spell NAME!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 01:52:08 PM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.

They knew the day they picked the car up from the tow yard, I have no doubt. I agree the timing is signigicant. They almost would have had to go out of state, or even the country, to have the work done for that little secret to go undetected.

I found this link that talks about tats and the sun.  http://tattoo.about.com/cs/tatfaq/a/tanning.htm
Snipped:

Brand New Tattoo
Don't put sunblock on a new or fresh tattoo - follow your artist's aftercare instructions and keep your tattoo covered or shaded with clothing for the first few weeks. You can use sunblock once your tattoo has finished peeling and has grown it's first protective layer of skin. But sunblock alone is not going to be sufficient for a new tattoo if it is exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time. A tattoo is usually considered well-healed after about 3 months.

Maybe they had it done at their CLEVELAND CLINIC visit.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:52:26 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?
Fanny, on the 1999 box, I'm trying to remember, click on the doc. image over on the far left, I think. That will take you to her cases. I think there are 5 or 6 different case numbers there and underneath that it will say next page and so on. When you pull up each case, again, click on the doc. image to bring up the details. It is laid out a little different than on the Orange County site, but the info is there. I was checking them out this morning and apparently they only let you view so many times and I used up my quota, so I have to wait until tomorrow to go back to re-access it.

I;m looking under "Adult Namce/ case lookup. Is that correct? I am court records illiterate.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 04, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hi Monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

I don't think the defense intends to call anyone, especially an obvious nut case with a rap sheet. I think it is a case of, "needs must when the devil is driving" because one of the attorneys made a claim that had to be validated by February.
I think the only reason they would do this is because they KNOW it isn't going to trial, it would make them look really stupid to put Joy on the stand. Although in my heart I truly wish they would, I would love to see her meltdown on the stand.  ::MonkeyAngel::

 I know I shouldn't wish that on such a feeble, witless creature as joy but I can't help myself,sorry  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 01:54:05 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?
I;m looking under "Adult Namce/ case lookup. Is that correct? I am court records illiterate.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Fanny, on the 1999 box, I'm trying to remember, click on the doc. image over on the far left, I think. That will take you to her cases. I think there are 5 or 6 different case numbers there and underneath that it will say next page and so on. When you pull up each case, again, click on the doc. image to bring up the details. It is laid out a little different than on the Orange County site, but the info is there. I was checking them out this morning and apparently they only let you view so many times and I used up my quota, so I have to wait until tomorrow to go back to re-access it.
I got in your quote box Fanny, I'm fixing that now.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 01:56:02 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.

I did that, and when it comes up there is two boxes showing cases in St Petersburg,1999 and St Marys, 1979. But I can go no further?
Fanny, on the 1999 box, I'm trying to remember, click on the doc. image over on the far left, I think. That will take you to her cases. I think there are 5 or 6 different case numbers there and underneath that it will say next page and so on. When you pull up each case, again, click on the doc. image to bring up the details. It is laid out a little different than on the Orange County site, but the info is there. I was checking them out this morning and apparently they only let you view so many times and I used up my quota, so I have to wait until tomorrow to go back to re-access it.

I;m looking under "Adult Namce/ case lookup. Is that correct? I am court records illiterate.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I could not get back in either.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 02:00:18 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

"Mommy's Little Girl" recounts Casey Anthony case
Updated: Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF
Published : Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF

Diane Fanning, the author of "Mommy's Little Girl", the story about the Casey Anthony case, will appear on the Oprah Winfrey as part of Ms. Winfrey's segment - Book of the Month Club.  A spokeperson from Harpo studios stated that the main reason Ms. Winfrey wants Ms. Fanning as a guest is to rub the Anthony's greed in their face.

The 352-page book also contains eight pages of charming cruise photographs, and gives background information about the miserable life of George and Cindy Anthony and the upbringing of their momster, Casey.

Mommy's Little Girl is available online and at major bookstores for $6.99.

Diane Fannings Website:
http://www.dianefanning.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 02:05:09 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

"Mommy's Little Girl" recounts Casey Anthony case
Updated: Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF
Published : Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF

Diane Fanning, the author of "Mommy's Little Girl", the story about the Casey Anthony case, will appear on the Oprah Winfrey as part of Ms. Winfrey's segment - Book of the Month Club.  A spokeperson from Harpo studios stated that the main reason Ms. Winfrey wants Ms. Fanning as a guest is to rub the Anthony's greed in their face.

The 352-page book also contains eight pages of charming cruise photographs, and gives background information about the miserable life of George and Cindy Anthony and the upbringing of their momster, Casey.

Mommy's Little Girl is available online and at major bookstores for $6.99.

Diane Fannings Website:
http://www.dianefanning.com/

::MonkeyHaHa:: Casually Cool was being funny here! No link, the date, the wording and no cruise pic are in the book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.


ummm, that post of mine was in jest about Oprah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.


ummm, that post of mine was in jest about Oprah.

OOPS  SORRY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 02:08:38 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.


ummm, that post of mine was in jest about Oprah.

OOPS  SORRY!

embarassed I am gonna go hide.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 02:15:23 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

Where did you see that LOCA?

Fanny - I think she was referring to this post I made.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/oprah.jpg)
"Mommy's Little Girl" recounts Casey Anthony case
Updated: Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF
Published : Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF

Diane Fanning, the author of "Mommy's Little Girl", the story about the Casey Anthony case, will appear on the Oprah Winfrey as part of Ms. Winfrey's segment - Book of the Month Club.  A spokeperson from Harpo studios stated that the main reason Ms. Winfrey wants Ms. Fanning as a guest is to rub the Anthony's greed in their face.

The 352-page book also contains eight pages of charming cruise photographs, and gives background information about the miserable life of George and Cindy Anthony and the upbringing of their momster, Casey.

Mommy's Little Girl is available online and at major bookstores for $6.99.

Diane Fannings Website:
http://www.dianefanning.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 02:18:41 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.


ummm, that post of mine was in jest about Oprah.

OOPS  SORRY!

embarassed I am gonna go hide.

I'll find you if you do.      ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 04, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

Where did you see that LOCA?






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"Mommy's Little Girl" recounts Casey Anthony case
Updated: Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF
Published : Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF

Diane Fanning, the author of "Mommy's Little Girl", the story about the Casey Anthony case, will appear on the Oprah Winfrey as part of Ms. Winfrey's segment - Book of the Month Club.  A spokeperson from Harpo studios stated that the main reason Ms. Winfrey wants Ms. Fanning as a guest is to rub the Anthony's greed in their face.

The 352-page book also contains eight pages of charming cruise photographs, and gives background information about the miserable life of George and Cindy Anthony and the upbringing of their momster, Casey.

Mommy's Little Girl is available online and at major bookstores for $6.99.

Diane Fannings Website:
http://www.dianefanning.com/


I never watch Oprah but I might make an exception if she is really going to be on..  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 02:25:07 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.

"Mommy's Little Girl" recounts Casey Anthony case
Updated: Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF
Published : Wednesday, 32 Nov 2009, 12:19 AM WTF

Diane Fanning, the author of "Mommy's Little Girl", the story about the Casey Anthony case, will appear on the Oprah Winfrey as part of Ms. Winfrey's segment - Book of the Month Club.  A spokeperson from Harpo studios stated that the main reason Ms. Winfrey wants Ms. Fanning as a guest is to rub the Anthony's greed in their face.

The 352-page book also contains eight pages of charming cruise photographs, and gives background information about the miserable life of George and Cindy Anthony and the upbringing of their momster, Casey.

Mommy's Little Girl is available online and at major bookstores for $6.99.

Diane Fannings Website:
http://www.dianefanning.com/


Thanks LOCA!!! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 02:31:01 PM
I am happy to read that oprah is trying to expose the anthonys for their greed. This is big exposure and not good for them! they are well deservant of the title she gave them. cindy hasnt been able to keep her mouth shut! their lust for money  will destroy them and their daughter. the world now sees them all for what their are ! media  tramps and the lust for money.
lol casuallycool
but is she realy going to be on there now I cant trust my own judgement lol



ummm, that post of mine was in jest about Oprah.

OOPS  SORRY!

embarassed I am gonna go hide.

I'll find you if you do.      ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
CC! You have me so confused!!! And I guess if TRIMM can't get Joy's records I never will. LOCA, don't feel bad. He fooled me too. TUPELO, thanks for trying to help me.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 02:58:28 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 03:00:45 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 03:03:54 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool::

Hold on big boy,I hit post too fast.I was trying to find a spanking sign.   ::MonkeyDevil::
You're grounded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 03:07:35 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 03:17:22 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 04, 2009, 03:18:02 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

I'll do it for free CC! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 03:20:31 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

I'll do it for free CC! ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 04, 2009, 03:34:09 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: It would have to be a conference call so we could all hear the response......priceless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: It would have to be a conference call so we could all hear the response......priceless.

 ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 04:06:21 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: It would have to be a conference call so we could all hear the response......priceless.

 ::MonkeySlide::

AT&T Operator:  "This is AT&T - will you take a collect call from a Mr. Richard Plesea"?

Scamthony Residence:  CLICK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
$20 bucks for the 1st person to make a collect call to the scamthonys and telling the operator that you're Rick Plesea.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: It would have to be a conference call so we could all hear the response......priceless.
cc your so bad. hey by the way I just picked up my book at barnes and noble for 6.99 havent started reading it yet. its in paper back form.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 04:21:36 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!
lol too funny the jke was on me  omg!! too funny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 04:29:14 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!
lol too funny the jke was on me  omg!! too funny

I fell for it too, and I KNOW CC. I have my ways to make him pay.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I wish we would get the documents so we would have something new to talk about. Please God, don't let it be some more of those lying evil Anthonys on audio or video.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 04, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!
lol too funny the jke was on me  omg!! too funny

Yeah loca, you really have to keep an eye on that Fanny - she's really mischevious isn't she?    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151
Post by: monkalicious on November 04, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
Hey Fanny you are so fast with the pictures in the last thread thanks so much for posting it.
Yes that is the picture of little Caylee that I think is GA tat

Monkey hugs

Just for you, I will do it again.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/caylee2.jpg)

Oh, Fanny, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind!
This is one of my favorite pics of Caylee.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 04, 2009, 05:11:10 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 04, 2009, 05:49:19 PM
Cindy Anthony shopping for a new bathing suit after reading the blogs.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 04, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Cindy Anthony shopping for a new bathing suit after reading the blogs.



 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Good one Missiontoconvict!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 04, 2009, 06:27:54 PM

More on Mommy's Little Girl
http://www.youtube.com/v/4tY5ZdXkGSY&hl=en&fs=1&


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 04, 2009, 06:31:34 PM
Thanks Cece.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 07:15:03 PM

More on Mommy's Little Girl
http://www.youtube.com/v/4tY5ZdXkGSY&hl=en&fs=1&

Thanks CECE!

I guess this means KC is famous... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Does anyone remember right off who the female writer was that was with the original defense "dream team" when they made their famous Suburban Dr remains stand? I wonder whatever happened to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 04, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.

He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 04, 2009, 07:55:41 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.

He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.

So screwy & poorly written, imo - as if there are murders that are kind?  Oi ...   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 07:58:25 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.


oh did I mention buying the book by diane fanning mommy's little girl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 08:04:43 PM
Cindy Anthony shopping for a new bathing suit after reading the blogs.


OMG!! TOO FUNNY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 08:06:58 PM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!

lol too funny the jke was on me  omg!! too funny

Yeah loca, you really have to keep an eye on that Fanny - she's really mischevious isn't she?    ::MonkeyCool::
Yes cc she got me there one up on you fannie lol I fell for that one!! Hook line and sinker.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 04, 2009, 08:08:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.



 I do believe that he is incapable of embarrassment. His massive ego combined with blind ambition totally obliterates any chance of it.  And the rest of the maroons with him, AL is waaay too busy and smackalulu, Uh I don't know. Wonder if Kobalinsky is still on the team?     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 04, 2009, 08:22:17 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.






Hello monkeys, me again... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

In response to this quote,,,Who says they are laughing BEHIND their backs...they are laughing at them straight out...you can see that in court when the SA (wish I could remember his name but I just like him) just shakes his head and laughs (which everyone can see) at anything that BOZO and his Scream Team says that the SA knows is off the wall.......but "I am not predjudice at at.... ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 04, 2009, 08:33:55 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.






Hello monkeys, me again... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

In response to this quote,,,Who says they are laughing BEHIND their backs...they are laughing at them straight out...you can see that in court when the SA (wish I could remember his name but I just like him) just shakes his head and laughs (which everyone can see) at anything that BOZO and his Scream Team says that the SA knows is off the wall.......but "I am not predjudice at at.... ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


     ::MonkeyLaugh::  So true


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: theboyzmom on November 04, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
Cindy Anthony shopping for a new bathing suit after reading the blogs.



OMG!  That is SOOOO funny!  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.
yeseree he said it was almost laughable the motions that baez is filing.  ya know if I was baez I would feel embarassed at the fact that other  professionals are laughing behind his back.






Hello monkeys, me again... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

In response to this quote,,,Who says they are laughing BEHIND their backs...they are laughing at them straight out...you can see that in court when the SA (wish I could remember his name but I just like him) just shakes his head and laughs (which everyone can see) at anything that BOZO and his Scream Team says that the SA knows is off the wall.......but "I am not predjudice at at.... ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Hi PROTECT!!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::  You've been among the missing!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 04, 2009, 09:13:31 PM

Hi PROTECT!!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::  You've been among the missing!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 04, 2009, 10:00:28 PM

Hi PROTECT!!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::  You've been among the missing!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::
goodnight fannie! do try to behave lol and cc thanks it's been fun hanging with yall today seya tomorrow god willing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 04, 2009, 10:25:27 PM

Hi PROTECT!!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::  You've been among the missing!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: Hi Fanny, I really don't post alot BUT I read everything...and thank you for telling me his name...I just like watching him at the hearings...he really does show that he "knows" more than we do...btw....I LOVE MY MONKEYS....keep up the GREAT work... ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 10:35:38 PM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 10:40:14 PM

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I get the biggest kick out of watching Mr. Ashton in court! He doesn't hide his feelings towards the defense team one bit. I think he looks forward to these hearings, just to get a good laugh!  I'm a little surprised that Judge Strickland has not said anything to him about his laughter, but then, Stan most likely feels the same way and has to keep his eyes on his desk so that he, himself won't react in the same way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 04, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
I found this on the Women in Crime Ink site that D. Fanning blogs on.

By lucindapierce
September 17, 2009

A glimpse at MOMMY'S LITTLE GIRL: Casey Anthony and Her Daughter Caylee's Tragic Fate by Diane Fanning, coming November 3 from St. Martin's Press. The first, full-length, in-depth account of this  case.

http://www.youtube.com/v/hTdlMx6kBLU&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 04, 2009, 11:06:39 PM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.

Wow, Tupelo.

Interesting! I am one that doubted that George saw Caylee and Casey leave that morning/early afternoon of June 16. Maybe he was just coached as to what to say about they were wearing? He seemed to recall way too much detail concerning their attire.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 04, 2009, 11:59:29 PM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.
I agree with Mark F.  I believe Caylee was killed at home, probably strangulation (as to make no mess {sorry}) then was put into the laundry bag and trashbags from the home.  She probably did call everyone to see if they were still at their jobs.  She probably planned to dumb Caylee that day, but went to Tony's instead.  Which means Caylee was in the car when she was at Blockbuster's with Tony.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 05, 2009, 12:09:50 AM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.

They knew the day they picked the car up from the tow yard, I have no doubt. I agree the timing is signigicant. They almost would have had to go out of state, or even the country, to have the work done for that little secret to go undetected.

I found this link that talks about tats and the sun.  http://tattoo.about.com/cs/tatfaq/a/tanning.htm
Snipped:

Brand New Tattoo
Don't put sunblock on a new or fresh tattoo - follow your artist's aftercare instructions and keep your tattoo covered or shaded with clothing for the first few weeks. You can use sunblock once your tattoo has finished peeling and has grown it's first protective layer of skin. But sunblock alone is not going to be sufficient for a new tattoo if it is exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time. A tattoo is usually considered well-healed after about 3 months.

Evening all!  Just wanted to chime in with my two cents on.
Message to Cindy & George:  You can't hold a tattoo, snuggle it, or get a love squeeze around the neck from one either.  Tattoos can't sing to You Are My Sunshine to you, CC, in Caylee's little sing-songy voice or kiss you goodnight either, JoJo.  Tattoos can't help decorate Christmas trees or squeal with delight over carefully picked presents from their CC.  They can't go visit sick grandaddies in Nursing homes and bring them joy when they're not feeling well.  They can't make Christmas cookies with you and they don't have eyes that light up in wonder at all the Christmas lights.  You can't help them learn to read or share their delight when they learn to ride a bike.  You can't paint their nails or dress them up for special occasions.  Tattoos can't slip their tiny little hands securely into yours when you're out for a walk.  They can't jump in the leaves or dress up for Halloween.  Tattoos can't munch popcorn with you and have movie nights.  They can't come sneaking into your bed for comforting snuggles when they feel anxious.  Tattoos don't have teeth to lose, so you can't play Tooth Fairy.  Tattoos won't love you unconditionally and forgive you even when you come home grumpy or are overly tired.  They won't shriek with laughter and pure delight swinging and sliding at the park. Tattoos don't have a First Day of school for you to proudly video and tak pictures.  They won't flash you thousand-watt smiles when they're splashing around in the pool with you CC.  You can't take proud pictures of your tattoo and her date, all dressed up for Homecomings and Proms.  Tattoos can't get married, so you won't be invited along to help choose the perfect dress/cake/flowers/reception hall and add your friends/co-workers to the guest list.  You can't host beautiful bridal showers for your tattoos.  Likewise, you can't hold your precious tattoos' first born, creating an everlasting memory.  You can't host the perfect Baby Shower for your tattoo with all the best gifts from her closest family and friends. You can't take generational pictures of your mom, yourself, Casey, and your tattoo.  I hope you really like your tattoos...but wouldn't you rather have Caylee instead?
Cindy & George, one day very soon, this trial is going to be done.  Casey will be gone too and you will be left with your tattoos,  your broken dreams, your memories, and your videos and pictures.  What will you do then?  I don't say this to be harsh at all.  Right now, you've made Casey your cause...it's easy to hide behind that.  When it's over what will you do to fill the void, ease the pain?  How long do you think burying yourselves in a cause is really going to work?  Memorial tattoos are nice, but they can't fill the hole in your heart...Only God can.  The truth not only sets you free, it keeps you there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 05, 2009, 12:14:17 AM
Experiencing some technical difficulty: keyboard went swimming earlier today w/o my permission.  Sending keyboard to Time Out now.  Hope you have a great night!  God bless you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: TOY on November 05, 2009, 01:25:33 AM
I Spy...

What a beautiful, touching post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Bearlyhere on November 05, 2009, 04:17:39 AM
CC! You have me so confused!!! And I guess if TRIMM can't get Joy's records I never will. LOCA, don't feel bad. He fooled me too. TUPELO, thanks for trying to help me.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Fanny, were you drinking the Casually Cool Aid?  Better borrow Northern Rose's anti Kool Aid hat.

 ::MonkeyDevil::

Casually Cool, you devil!

 ::MonkeyDevil2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Bearlyhere on November 05, 2009, 04:19:48 AM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

You know, CC, the only part of you that grows when you lie, is your nose.

 ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Bearlyhere on November 05, 2009, 04:25:08 AM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.
lol that will teach me to not assume and run with something I am not clear about !!! hell she did a damn good job of it too!!
 ::MonkeyShocked::
omg it was so surreal!!!
lol too funny the jke was on me  omg!! too funny

Yeah loca, you really have to keep an eye on that Fanny - she's really mischevious isn't she?    ::MonkeyCool::

You better keep an eye on your own fanny, don't worry about hers!



 (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/kiss_my_ass.gif)

Picture of CC's tattoo!

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Bearlyhere on November 05, 2009, 04:53:27 AM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.

They knew the day they picked the car up from the tow yard, I have no doubt. I agree the timing is signigicant. They almost would have had to go out of state, or even the country, to have the work done for that little secret to go undetected.

I found this link that talks about tats and the sun.  http://tattoo.about.com/cs/tatfaq/a/tanning.htm
Snipped:

Brand New Tattoo
Don't put sunblock on a new or fresh tattoo - follow your artist's aftercare instructions and keep your tattoo covered or shaded with clothing for the first few weeks. You can use sunblock once your tattoo has finished peeling and has grown it's first protective layer of skin. But sunblock alone is not going to be sufficient for a new tattoo if it is exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time. A tattoo is usually considered well-healed after about 3 months.

Evening all!  Just wanted to chime in with my two cents on.
Message to Cindy & George:  You can't hold a tattoo, snuggle it, or get a love squeeze around the neck from one either.  Tattoos can't sing to You Are My Sunshine to you, CC, in Caylee's little sing-songy voice or kiss you goodnight either, JoJo.  Tattoos can't help decorate Christmas trees or squeal with delight over carefully picked presents from their CC.  They can't go visit sick grandaddies in Nursing homes and bring them joy when they're not feeling well.  They can't make Christmas cookies with you and they don't have eyes that light up in wonder at all the Christmas lights.  You can't help them learn to read or share their delight when they learn to ride a bike.  You can't paint their nails or dress them up for special occasions.  Tattoos can't slip their tiny little hands securely into yours when you're out for a walk.  They can't jump in the leaves or dress up for Halloween.  Tattoos can't munch popcorn with you and have movie nights.  They can't come sneaking into your bed for comforting snuggles when they feel anxious.  Tattoos don't have teeth to lose, so you can't play Tooth Fairy.  Tattoos won't love you unconditionally and forgive you even when you come home grumpy or are overly tired.  They won't shriek with laughter and pure delight swinging and sliding at the park. Tattoos don't have a First Day of school for you to proudly video and tak pictures.  They won't flash you thousand-watt smiles when they're splashing around in the pool with you CC.  You can't take proud pictures of your tattoo and her date, all dressed up for Homecomings and Proms.  Tattoos can't get married, so you won't be invited along to help choose the perfect dress/cake/flowers/reception hall and add your friends/co-workers to the guest list.  You can't host beautiful bridal showers for your tattoos.  Likewise, you can't hold your precious tattoos' first born, creating an everlasting memory.  You can't host the perfect Baby Shower for your tattoo with all the best gifts from her closest family and friends. You can't take generational pictures of your mom, yourself, Casey, and your tattoo.  I hope you really like your tattoos...but wouldn't you rather have Caylee instead?
Cindy & George, one day very soon, this trial is going to be done.  Casey will be gone too and you will be left with your tattoos,  your broken dreams, your memories, and your videos and pictures.  What will you do then?  I don't say this to be harsh at all.  Right now, you've made Casey your cause...it's easy to hide behind that.  When it's over what will you do to fill the void, ease the pain?  How long do you think burying yourselves in a cause is really going to work?  Memorial tattoos are nice, but they can't fill the hole in your heart...Only God can.  The truth not only sets you free, it keeps you there.


                 (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/crying.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 06:27:44 AM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/Morning.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 06:39:49 AM

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I get the biggest kick out of watching Mr. Ashton in court! He doesn't hide his feelings towards the defense team one bit. I think he looks forward to these hearings, just to get a good laugh!  I'm a little surprised that Judge Strickland has not said anything to him about his laughter, but then, Stan most likely feels the same way and has to keep his eyes on his desk so that he, himself won't react in the same way.

You are probably right.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 06:40:47 AM
Ok now - is everyone clear?
cc
you mean someone cut n pasted the pic and added that about oprahs spokesperson slash staff? lol?

Yep, and I think that someone was fanny.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

You know, CC, the only part of you that grows when you lie, is your nose.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 06:50:27 AM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=203
Defense Attorneys for Casey Anthony file reply to state’s response
Posted by Melissa Finlay  On November - 3 - 2009
Criminal Defense Attorneys for Casey Anthony respond to State
Defense Attorneys for Casey Anthony have filed a motion that is a Casey Anthony’s reply to the state’s response to the motion to preclude death procedures. Filed by Jose A Baez and Andrea D. Lyon, criminal defense attorneys for Casey Anthony, the motion is in response to the answer given by the Florida State Attorney’s office. The motion to preclude the death penalty procedures was filed by criminal defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon on September 30, 2009. The motion asked the court to preclude the prosecution from seeking the death penalty against their client, Casey Anthony for the following reasons.


The defense attorneys stated that the prosecution sought the death penalty against Casey Anthony using motives that stemmed from bad faith, and that those motives infringed upon Casey Anthony’s civil rights. They also stated that the prosecution does not have a legitimate interest for seeking the death penalty against Casey Anthony. Due to the lack of physical evidence in the case, the defense states that there is not enough evidence, as required by law, to prove aggravating circumstances, or that those circumstances would warrant the death penalty.


Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys also stated that should the prosecution prove capital murder, there would only be one aggravating factor that would constitute a capital felony: that Caylee Anthony was under the age of 12 years old. Baez and Lyon stated that by law, the prosecution cannot prove that Casey Anthony committed a crime that was especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel. They also stated that the prosecution could not show that Casey Anthony was guilty of a cold, calculated, and premeditated murder.
Other specifics mentioned by Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys included that as a matter of law; the prosecution could not establish that Casey Anthony murdered Caylee Anthony after committing aggravated child abuse. They said that it is unconstitutional to seek the death penalty solely because the victim is under the age of 12 years old. They compared the case of Casey Anthony with previous Florida cases and said that should the prosecution prove that Casey Anthony, did in fact murder Caylee Anthony, the death penalty would not be appropriate since it wasn’t upheld in other cases.


Due to the lack of evidence against Casey Anthony, her defense attorneys concluded that the prosecution was seeking the death penalty against Casey solely to gain an advantage over the defense. They also said that the death penalty violated Casey Anthony’s civil rights and prejudiced her.
Click here to read the motion filed on September 20, 2009 regarding the death penalty against Casey Anthony   http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0930/21161952.pdf
Click here to read the response filed by Casey Anthony’s defense attorney’s regarding the State’s response to the motion filed on September 20, 2090.
http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/CaseyMotion-Deathtoss.pdf



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 05, 2009, 07:12:08 AM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.

Thanks ... may have to give his book a perusal.  I think he is a really competent detective.

Off the top of my head, didn't George say his time of leaving for work as at around an hour later?  Maybe not, I'll have to go see if I can find that.  Interesting ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
 :gaah:  I keep getting bounced out of the cage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 05, 2009, 07:41:05 AM
Me too  ::MonkeyMad:: Yesterday was really bad  :smt091


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 05, 2009, 08:16:37 AM

Oh, and its John Ashton, State Attorney!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I get the biggest kick out of watching Mr. Ashton in court! He doesn't hide his feelings towards the defense team one bit. I think he looks forward to these hearings, just to get a good laugh!  I'm a little surprised that Judge Strickland has not said anything to him about his laughter, but then, Stan most likely feels the same way and has to keep his eyes on his desk so that he, himself won't react in the same way.

Oh Lordy...ain't he somethin'! Lol! When he gets riled up, same as we do, about things baez says....and he shakes his head, makes those faces, then whispers something and snickers...hubby and I get so tickled at him. We crack up! It makes the court proceedings bearable somehow while kc's weasel man whines.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 05, 2009, 08:23:22 AM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.
I agree with Mark F.  I believe Caylee was killed at home, probably strangulation (as to make no mess {sorry}) then was put into the laundry bag and trashbags from the home.  She probably did call everyone to see if they were still at their jobs.  She probably planned to dumb Caylee that day, but went to Tony's instead.  Which means Caylee was in the car when she was at Blockbuster's with Tony.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I have got to read that book. I hadn't thought to swing by the book store and give it a looksie...thanks for the idea. I was going to buy it next week, but I can take a peek this week at the store.  ::MonkeyWink:: Thanks. I hadn't thought of that.

This reminds me of something....has the rug that was taken from the A's home been discussed here and if so can someone point me to the link/discussion? That's something I meant to look at in detail more and haven't yet...if we can. I just glanced at it and that was all I got a chance to do at the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 05, 2009, 08:58:04 AM
Memorial tattoos are nice, but they can't fill the hole in your heart...Only God can.  The truth not only sets you free, it keeps you there.

Amen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 05, 2009, 08:59:18 AM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/Morning.jpg)

That's a very cute cup of good morning. Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 05, 2009, 09:22:51 AM
A new tatoo, the colors should be very vibrant. Considering the poor quality of the pics, theirs appear to faded,as in months of sunworshipping (bass boat maybe). JMO
When I got my tattoo they told me to keep it out of the sun for some time. Of course over the years, with a lot of beach time, mine has faded as well. They both have sported tans for some time now so I would think you hit the nail on the head, bass boat, cruises, pool time at various hotels and at home.

Yes, but  fading takes TIME.  I'm just saying I do not think they are new.  You don't memorialize someone you believe to be alive.  The timing Might/maybe be signifigant to what they knew and when.

They knew the day they picked the car up from the tow yard, I have no doubt. I agree the timing is signigicant. They almost would have had to go out of state, or even the country, to have the work done for that little secret to go undetected.

I found this link that talks about tats and the sun.  http://tattoo.about.com/cs/tatfaq/a/tanning.htm
Snipped:

Brand New Tattoo
Don't put sunblock on a new or fresh tattoo - follow your artist's aftercare instructions and keep your tattoo covered or shaded with clothing for the first few weeks. You can use sunblock once your tattoo has finished peeling and has grown it's first protective layer of skin. But sunblock alone is not going to be sufficient for a new tattoo if it is exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time. A tattoo is usually considered well-healed after about 3 months.

Evening all!  Just wanted to chime in with my two cents on.
Message to Cindy & George:  You can't hold a tattoo, snuggle it, or get a love squeeze around the neck from one either.  Tattoos can't sing to You Are My Sunshine to you, CC, in Caylee's little sing-songy voice or kiss you goodnight either, JoJo.  Tattoos can't help decorate Christmas trees or squeal with delight over carefully picked presents from their CC.  They can't go visit sick grandaddies in Nursing homes and bring them joy when they're not feeling well.  They can't make Christmas cookies with you and they don't have eyes that light up in wonder at all the Christmas lights.  You can't help them learn to read or share their delight when they learn to ride a bike.  You can't paint their nails or dress them up for special occasions.  Tattoos can't slip their tiny little hands securely into yours when you're out for a walk.  They can't jump in the leaves or dress up for Halloween.  Tattoos can't munch popcorn with you and have movie nights.  They can't come sneaking into your bed for comforting snuggles when they feel anxious.  Tattoos don't have teeth to lose, so you can't play Tooth Fairy.  Tattoos won't love you unconditionally and forgive you even when you come home grumpy or are overly tired.  They won't shriek with laughter and pure delight swinging and sliding at the park. Tattoos don't have a First Day of school for you to proudly video and tak pictures.  They won't flash you thousand-watt smiles when they're splashing around in the pool with you CC.  You can't take proud pictures of your tattoo and her date, all dressed up for Homecomings and Proms.  Tattoos can't get married, so you won't be invited along to help choose the perfect dress/cake/flowers/reception hall and add your friends/co-workers to the guest list.  You can't host beautiful bridal showers for your tattoos.  Likewise, you can't hold your precious tattoos' first born, creating an everlasting memory.  You can't host the perfect Baby Shower for your tattoo with all the best gifts from her closest family and friends. You can't take generational pictures of your mom, yourself, Casey, and your tattoo.  I hope you really like your tattoos...but wouldn't you rather have Caylee instead?
Cindy & George, one day very soon, this trial is going to be done.  Casey will be gone too and you will be left with your tattoos,  your broken dreams, your memories, and your videos and pictures.  What will you do then?  I don't say this to be harsh at all.  Right now, you've made Casey your cause...it's easy to hide behind that.  When it's over what will you do to fill the void, ease the pain?  How long do you think burying yourselves in a cause is really going to work?  Memorial tattoos are nice, but they can't fill the hole in your heart...Only God can.  The truth not only sets you free, it keeps you there.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!
ISPY....wonderful post...brought tears to my eyes. They do not have sense enough to realize what they are going to be missing watching Caylee grow up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 09:44:22 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Good Morning Monks.  A day late, but thanks trim.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 09:49:44 AM

More on Mommy's Little Girl
http://www.youtube.com/v/4tY5ZdXkGSY&hl=en&fs=1&

Thanks cece


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 05, 2009, 09:52:39 AM
Found the perfect Christmas gift for mushroom head...

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinch.jpg)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinchhead.jpg)

...the Grinch Head T-Shirt


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 09:54:51 AM
I found this on the Women in Crime Ink site that D. Fanning blogs on.

By lucindapierce
September 17, 2009

A glimpse at MOMMY'S LITTLE GIRL: Casey Anthony and Her Daughter Caylee's Tragic Fate by Diane Fanning, coming November 3 from St. Martin's Press. The first, full-length, in-depth account of this  case.

http://www.youtube.com/v/hTdlMx6kBLU&hl=en&fs=1

Thanks tupelo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 05, 2009, 09:59:50 AM
Sunny, sending you a nanners in a minute.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 05, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 10:11:07 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I know!   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 05, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Have no idea who that is. Tried googling it but couldn't find any information. Any missing child is a good thing!!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 05, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
Memorial tattoos are nice, but they can't fill the hole in your heart...Only God can.  The truth not only sets you free, it keeps you there.

Amen.
ISPY, That was an absolutely beautiful post. Sorry your keyboard took a dunk. The Anthonys will never be truly happy and will never realize why. They are too materialistic to even begin to think of all the blessing they already had, and helped throw it all away. They have to be evil to just get through the death and aftermath of Caylee's murder in the manner they have. Your post was very touching. Thank you, and Amen from me too.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: TOY on November 05, 2009, 10:18:25 AM
It's a little 7-month-old baby that was found underneath the babysitter's bed.

Strange situation and the mother may be involved according to early reports.

Very touching to read of the police officers' reactions.  I don't know how LE does what they do. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 05, 2009, 10:20:48 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6410.20

Sorry Boo, here is the link!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Have no idea who that is. Tried googling it but couldn't find any information. Any missing child is a good thing!!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

Here you go Boo.   http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6410.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 05, 2009, 10:24:40 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Have no idea who that is. Tried googling it but couldn't find any information. Any missing child is a good thing!!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

Here you go Boo.   http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6410.0

OH!!! I know who she is now!!! Going to the link to read, thank you!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 10:36:04 AM
Sunny, sending you a nanners in a minute.  ::MonkeyEek::

got it and replied ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 10:37:17 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 10:40:22 AM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 10:44:29 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-20091105,0,737078.story
Casey Anthony case: More discovery to be released Friday
More documents are expected to be released Friday in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

Several hundred pages will be released by the State Attorney's Office in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork.

It's unclear what information will be in the documents. So far, more than 10,000 pages of documents have been made public.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of 2-year-old Caylee Marie, whose remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family's east Orange County home. Authorities ruled her death a homicide but could not determine how she died.

The state is seeking the death penalty against Anthony, who remains in the Orange County Jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 11:07:12 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-20091105,0,737078.story
Casey Anthony case: More discovery to be released Friday
More documents are expected to be released Friday in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

Several hundred pages will be released by the State Attorney's Office in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork.

It's unclear what information will be in the documents. So far, more than 10,000 pages of documents have been made public.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of 2-year-old Caylee Marie, whose remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family's east Orange County home. Authorities ruled her death a homicide but could not determine how she died.

The state is seeking the death penalty against Anthony, who remains in the Orange County Jail.

Thanks trim....Bob Kealing was correct when he guessed it would be Friday ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 05, 2009, 11:07:59 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-20091105,0,737078.story
Casey Anthony case: More discovery to be released Friday
More documents are expected to be released Friday in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

Several hundred pages will be released by the State Attorney's Office in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork.

It's unclear what information will be in the documents. So far, more than 10,000 pages of documents have been made public.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of 2-year-old Caylee Marie, whose remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family's east Orange County home. Authorities ruled her death a homicide but could not determine how she died.

The state is seeking the death penalty against Anthony, who remains in the Orange County Jail.


 ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer2::

Thanks Trimm & Good morning everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 05, 2009, 11:52:25 AM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!

Yes, something hinky- it sounds similar to a recent case in England where the mother conspired with another to fake an abduction- they were after the reward money. They are both in jail and the girl is in care..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 05, 2009, 11:54:22 AM
Thanks Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 05, 2009, 12:35:54 PM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!

Yes, something hinky- it sounds similar to a recent case in England where the mother conspired with another to fake an abduction- they were after the reward money. They are both in jail and the girl is in care..

I remember the England case..the girl taken was about 9 yrs old and I believe that she was missing for about 3 weeks before being found at a male friends home...a friend/acquaintance of the mothers...Hopefully this girl will have a much better life now...last I read/heard, this girl wanted nothing to do with her bio mom...who is in jail...where she belongs...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 05, 2009, 12:41:58 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 05, 2009, 12:56:37 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

Hi Boo! Hi Monkeys! I would just elaborate a bit on no. 6

9. No evidence that an apartment at Sawgrass had ever been rented to Zanny Gonzalas, despite Casey stating she had kept Caylee there for over a year, or that she kept Casey's friend's child either. ( I can't think of his name, sorry!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 05, 2009, 12:58:23 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car

4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Grave wax? I don't know this........  somebody please fill me in? TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 01:03:47 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car

4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Grave wax? I don't know this........  somebody please fill me in? TIA!

Around page 1057
http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/1009/21252103.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 01:31:06 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car
9. saying she wrote bad checks to finance her search for caylee but spent it all on beer, push up bras and clothes for herself
10. not telling anyone caylee was missing lying ! lee said when he picked up caseys things at tonys there were only two diapers and baby wipes nothing belonging to caylee.

4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Grave wax? I don't know this........  somebody please fill me in? TIA!

Around page 1057
http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/1009/21252103.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 01:32:53 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car
sorry I put that in the wrong place. please give me a break lol I am on my first cup of coffee.:)

4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Grave wax? I don't know this........  somebody please fill me in? TIA!

Around page 1057
http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/1009/21252103.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 05, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 
REMEMBER!! That cindy even said she had the nannys phone number but never produced it. the decomp in the car!  not to mention taking the cops on a wild goose chase all over the place!! Amongst many other facts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 01:41:22 PM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!

Yes, something hinky- it sounds similar to a recent case in England where the mother conspired with another to fake an abduction- they were after the reward money. They are both in jail and the girl is in care..

I remember the England case..the girl taken was about 9 yrs old and I believe that she was missing for about 3 weeks before being found at a male friends home...a friend/acquaintance of the mothers...Hopefully this girl will have a much better life now...last I read/heard, this girl wanted nothing to do with her bio mom...who is in jail...where she belongs...
oh what joy I feel that they found shannon I am seeing her on HLN what a beautiful little girl. sad how so many kids are killed by their parents. why cant they just drop them off somewhere where they can be found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 01:43:02 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!
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[/help me here someone what does hinky! mean?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 05, 2009, 01:47:05 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!

Do a Google or Wikipedia search for Adipocere or Grave Wax.
Here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere
It was found smeared on paper towels in the trunk of Casey's car.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 01:48:23 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 
REMEMBER!! That cindy even said she had the nannys phone number but never produced it. the decomp in the car!  not to mention taking the cops on a wild goose chase all over the place!! Amongst many other facts.
In Cindy's depo with the State, she says that she had Zanny's phone # written on a post-it note in her address book.  ::MonkeyDevil:: How convenient for her....that just screams of being a lie. She never had a phone # to begin with, but after saying she did, she magically produced one, on a sticky note.  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: She is still assuming everyone is dumber than dirt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 01:50:45 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!

Do a Google or Wikipedia search for Adipocere or Grave Wax.
Here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere
It was found smeared on paper towels in the trunk of Casey's car.....
As in..... she either wiped it off of her hands or wiped it up from the trunk. I wonder if they found Casey's DNA on that paper towel as well?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 01:56:45 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/why-isnt-there-a-sketch-for-caylee-anthonys-murderer/

Why isn’t there a Sketch for Caylee Anthony’s Murderer?

Thursday, November 5, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 05, 2009, 02:08:35 PM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.
please what is the name of his book?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 05, 2009, 02:09:02 PM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!

Yes, something hinky- it sounds similar to a recent case in England where the mother conspired with another to fake an abduction- they were after the reward money. They are both in jail and the girl is in care..
  And this is EXACTLY why The Ants should be charged with SOMETHING.  People see the circus going on with this (including Cummings and baloon boy) and $ee a $$payday$$$.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 05, 2009, 02:10:41 PM
s'cuse me, balloon boy ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 05, 2009, 02:29:07 PM
Thanks all for the references to the grave wax and it's definition! Wow.............. that ought to be worth a lot! Not exactly the kind of thing you'd normally find in the trunk of your car now is it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 02:31:46 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car


4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

elaborating on #4 - no one reported seeing Caylee after June 15th....except for georgieboy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
OK Monks....just from the information we know...what do you think will be the factors (evidence) that will convict kc?  I'll start......with 3...

1. the reported smell of decomp
2. Caylee's hair with death band
3. grave wax on napkins found in the car

4. Casey out partying with friends and never mentioning her missing daughter will be huge
5. No "script" found that she was supposed to be following
6. No pictures of the Nanny, no contact information found in her belongings
7. Non of Caylee's belongings were found where Casey was staying
8. Baby car seat found in the abandoned car, no parent could legally transport their child around without one
 

 ::MonkeyEek:: Grave wax? I don't know this........  somebody please fill me in? TIA!

CBB, I am sure someone has already answered this for you...but, to me, this has always been a huge piece of evidence that has not been given a lot of attention


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 05, 2009, 02:37:50 PM
I was at Barnes and Noble today and I sat down and read the first chapter of Mark Fuhrman's new book, which is about Caylee. He states that LE knows that Casey killed Caylee at home on June 16th. He also said that George saw Casey and Caylee that morning before he left for work at 12:30. Casey did leave the house, but stayed in the area waiting for George to go to work and then she went back home. The flurry of phone calls Casey made was to make sure her parents were sticking to their normal schedules and would not arrive home before she had a chance to move Caylee's body.
please what is the name of his book?


The Murder Business is the name of the book...I just started reading it and it is very good so far...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 02:50:31 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!

Do a Google or Wikipedia search for Adipocere or Grave Wax.
Here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere
It was found smeared on paper towels in the trunk of Casey's car.....
As in..... she either wiped it off of her hands or wiped it up from the trunk. I wonder if they found Casey's DNA on that paper towel as well?

Good question tupelo! to the best of my knowledge we haven't seen a lab report on those towels/napkins

Anyone else having problems witht the site today??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 02:53:09 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/why-isnt-there-a-sketch-for-caylee-anthonys-murderer/

Why isn’t there a Sketch for Caylee Anthony’s Murderer?

Thursday, November 5, 2009

thanks tupelo....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 05, 2009, 02:57:52 PM
Even though we don't know exactly what was said...I do think georgieboy's GJ testimony is going to play largely in the trial. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 05, 2009, 03:08:48 PM
what exactly is "grave wax"? I read the report but I still am not clear on this...
first time that I have ever heard of this...thanks!

Do a Google or Wikipedia search for Adipocere or Grave Wax.
Here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere
It was found smeared on paper towels in the trunk of Casey's car.....
As in..... she either wiped it off of her hands or wiped it up from the trunk. I wonder if they found Casey's DNA on that paper towel as well?

Good question tupelo! to the best of my knowledge we haven't seen a lab report on those towels/napkins

Anyone else having problems witht the site today??


I keep getting kicked out of here and takes forever to get back in...so yeah, I guess that I am having problems too if this is the site that you mean...SM site...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 05, 2009, 03:45:13 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html

State Attorney To Release Unseen Casey Evidence
1,000 More Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Expected
POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 2:13 pm EST November 5, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla.-- The State Attorney's Office will release 1,000 more pages of evidence in the case against Casey Anthony on Friday, according to a spokeswoman.

WESH 2 has learned much of the material in the documents will be FBI related.

Casey Anothony is charged with the murder of her daughter Caylee Anthony, who was reported missing on July 15, 2008.

Stay with WESH 2 News and WESH.com for complete coverage of this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 05, 2009, 03:46:44 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/5/more_casey_anthony_documents_coming.html

More Casey Anthony Documents Coming
Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:45:38 PM

ORLANDO -- More documents could be coming Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the Florida state Attorney’s Office is expected to release several hundred more pages in response to a public record request.

It was not immediately known what the latest addition to the more than 10,000 pages made public will reveal about the case of Anthony, 23, who is charged with the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Casey’s defense team has reportedly received the paperwork.

The new documents are coming just days after it a book based on the case hit store shelves across the country.

The book, titled “Mommy’s Little Girl,” was based solely on previous court documents, police interviews and recorded conversations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Truth Baby on November 05, 2009, 03:50:01 PM
OT: Fox news just reporting mass shooting 7 dead 20 people injured at Fort Hood Army Post in Texas!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 04:36:14 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/why-isnt-there-a-sketch-for-caylee-anthonys-murderer/

Why isn’t there a Sketch for Caylee Anthony’s Murderer?

Thursday, November 5, 2009

 ::MonkeySlide::  Just got back.Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 05, 2009, 05:07:14 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/EVIL%20KC/KCjumpsuitcoverstattoo-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 05, 2009, 05:56:11 PM
OT    Link to thread on Ft. Hood  TX mass shootings:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6433.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 05, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/EVIL%20KC/KCjumpsuitcoverstattoo-2.jpg)
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 05, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Team Baez has no defense...Casey is doomed.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 06:54:46 PM
Team Baez has no defense...Casey is doomed.  ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html

State Attorney To Release Unseen Casey Evidence
1,000 More Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Expected

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 2:13 pm EST November 5, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The State Attorney's Office will release 1,000 more pages of evidence in the case against Casey Anthony on Friday, according to a spokeswoman.

WESH 2 has learned much of the material in the documents will be FBI related.

Casey Anothony is charged with the murder of her daughter Caylee Anthony, who was reported missing on July 15, 2008.

Stay with WESH 2 News and WESH.com for complete coverage of this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
Oops! I just saw that article has already been posted. I just got excited thinking about NEW discovery.....will it be the entomology report?  Hoping!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 05, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/caylee-anthony-someone-is-using-her-image-mortifying-company.html

Caylee Anthony: Someone is using her image, mortifying company

posted by halboedeker on Nov 5, 2009 5:29:05 PM

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/6a00d83451c3cb69e20120a65819a3970b-.gif)

The Caylee Anthony saga takes still another bizarre turn.

The company Mindspark, based in White Plains, N.Y., has been stunned to learn that someone has used its product Zwinky and inserted the murdered child's image in an ad.

"We knew nothing about it," said Mindspark spokeswoman Deborah Szajngarten. "Someone is using our brand against our wishes. We didn't authorize this. We're mortified. We are unbelievably disturbed."

Szajngarten said she knew nothing of 2-year-old Caylee or the headline-making murder case. The child's mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter.

Szajngarten said the Zwinky product has nothing to do with what this fake ad is presenting.

Rather, Zwinky.com offers a virtual world aimed at girls 13 and older. Zwinky seeks to foster a love of fashion in girls.

"We're absolutely horrified by this use of our brand," Szajngarten said. "We don't know yet who's put it up."

But Mindspark is working to find out.

"It's not ours," she said. "We're trying to get it taken down as quickly as possible. There's a completely dedicated effort to getting it taken down as soon as possible."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 08:09:36 PM
Oops! I just saw that article has already been posted. I just got excited thinking about NEW discovery.....will it be the entomology report?  Hoping!

We can hope.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 05, 2009, 09:53:10 PM
I am reading Mark Fuhrman's book and I am somewhat disappointed so far, although I've only read about 25 pages.  He has events and dates wrong, for instance he says that Casey abandoned the car on July 27th.  He says that Casey borrowed the shovel on June 16.  He says that George left for work at 12:30 on June 16, implying that he left Casey and Caylee there at home when he went to work, after which Casey killed Caylee in the home.  All of these errors and more appear in the first few pages of the book and frankly, I'm not even sure I'm going to finish it. 

I did pre-order Mommy's Little Girl from Amazon but still haven't received it although I received a notice that it had been shipped.  I wish I had just picked it up at Books a Million and I could have had an Italian Cream Soda at the same time.  Yum.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 05, 2009, 10:04:00 PM
Welcome to SM Tilly!
 ::MonkeyCheer3::
That's an interesting point. I have never heard of that before.  Where do these kids get embalming fluid?  I guess, if there's a will, there's a way.....

Merging this with Caylee Marie Anthony Case Discussion Thread #172.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2009, 10:14:11 PM
Justice For Caylee.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 05, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
Found the perfect Christmas gift for mushroom head...

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinch.jpg)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinchhead.jpg)

...the Grinch Head T-Shirt

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image137-1.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 05, 2009, 10:49:02 PM
Good Morning Everybody!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I am just so pumped up this morning over Shannon Detrick being found in Chipley! Thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too!  Great news.....but something hinky in all of it!!

Yes, something hinky- it sounds similar to a recent case in England where the mother conspired with another to fake an abduction- they were after the reward money. They are both in jail and the girl is in care..
  And this is EXACTLY why The Ants should be charged with SOMETHING.  People see the circus going on with this (including Cummings and baloon boy) and $ee a $$payday$$$.

I think their day will come.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 05, 2009, 11:13:01 PM
Found the perfect Christmas gift for mushroom head...

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinch.jpg)
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/grinchhead.jpg)

...the Grinch Head T-Shirt

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image137-1.png)
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I am just so bummed out tonight about the Ft Hood Massacre but I needed a laugh. Thanks Brandi.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 05, 2009, 11:18:05 PM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 06, 2009, 12:30:49 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

 LOVE IT   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 05:07:28 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!   It's doc day!   ::MonkeyCheer3::

Some things from Diane Fanning's book..... Casey was not a 1/2 credit short of getting her diploma.....she was much further behind. She hardly went to class at all during her senior year. George and Cindy were called to the school and informed of everything. The school tried to work with Casey to get her up to speed, but she never took advantage of the offer. So there is another blatant lie from Cindy.  Also, her parents did everything they could to get Casey to finish what she needed to get her diploma, and she never followed through. They got her a scholarship for a photography course and she did nothing about that either.

It's also stated that she ran up $45,000 worth of credit card debt on Cindy's cards.   When Casey made those fake deposits, Cindy had a $700.00 mortgage check bounce because there were no funds in her account.  IMO, Cindy got what she deserved from Casey as she just kept enabling her and never had Casey face any consequences for her actions.

George received $60,000 from his workman's comp claim. Cindy thought that would give them some cushion, but George used the money to pay back some of his gambling debts, but still owed more money. I wonder just how much he owed all together from his internet gambling?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:14:22 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 05:15:58 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:16:03 AM
Hey Tupelo.   ::MonkeyBike:: Documents!   ::MonkeyCheer4::
Thanks for the info from the book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 06:37:42 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/5/more_casey_anthony_documents_coming.html
 More Casey Anthony Documents Coming
Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:45:38 PM
ORLANDO -- More documents could be coming Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the Florida state Attorney’s Office is expected to release several hundred more pages in response to a public record request.

It was not immediately known what the latest addition to the more than 10,000 pages made public will reveal about the case of Anthony, 23, who is charged with the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Casey’s defense team has reportedly received the paperwork.

The new documents are coming just days after it a book based on the case hit store shelves across the country.

The book, titled “Mommy’s Little Girl,” was based solely on previous court documents, police interviews and recorded conversations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 06:38:08 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 06:58:28 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

That's wonderful!

Oh how that grinchity grinch hates Document Day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 07:03:21 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!   It's doc day!   ::MonkeyCheer3::

Some things from Diane Fanning's book..... Casey was not a 1/2 credit short of getting her diploma.....she was much further behind. She hardly went to class at all during her senior year. George and Cindy were called to the school and informed of everything. The school tried to work with Casey to get her up to speed, but she never took advantage of the offer. So there is another blatant lie from Cindy.  Also, her parents did everything they could to get Casey to finish what she needed to get her diploma, and she never followed through. They got her a scholarship for a photography course and she did nothing about that either.

It's also stated that she ran up $45,000 worth of credit card debt on Cindy's cards.   When Casey made those fake deposits, Cindy had a $700.00 mortgage check bounce because there were no funds in her account.  IMO, Cindy got what she deserved from Casey as she just kept enabling her and never had Casey face any consequences for her actions.

George received $60,000 from his workman's comp claim. Cindy thought that would give them some cushion, but George used the money to pay back some of his gambling debts, but still owed more money. I wonder just how much he owed all together from his internet gambling?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Tupelohoney...it just fills in the holes doesn't it.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And they just keep on with the lies. I really appreciate you sharing parts of the book.

I didn't put in an order so...it will be a long wait for me. lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks again Tupelo.

That entire conversation between Jeff and george about gas cans still makes my brain spin! Anyone else?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 07:21:58 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/5/more_casey_anthony_documents_coming.html
 More Casey Anthony Documents Coming
Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:45:38 PM
ORLANDO -- More documents could be coming Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the Florida state Attorney’s Office is expected to release several hundred more pages in response to a public record request.

Thanks Trimm.

May it be the reports we've been hoping for and no audio or video of the anthonys!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:25:38 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks again Tupelo.

That entire conversation between Jeff and george about gas cans still makes my brain spin! Anyone else?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes!I don't need much help anyway.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:45:38 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-20091105,0,737078.story
More Casey Anthony documents expected today
By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel

10:56 a.m. EST, November 5, 2009
More documents are expected to be released today in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

Several hundred pages will be released by the State Attorney's Office in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork.

It's unclear what information will be in the documents. So far, more than 10,000 pages of documents have been made public.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of 2-year-old Caylee Marie, whose remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family's east Orange County home. Authorities ruled her death a homicide but could not determine how she died.

The state is seeking the death penalty against Anthony, who remains in the Orange County Jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:55:48 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/detail.html
More Info To Be Released In Casey Case
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death

POSTED: Friday, November 6, 2009
UPDATED: 7:45 am EST November 6, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Hundreds of pages of documents related to the Casey Anthony case are expected to be released on Friday.
The state attorney's office will release the new documents, which have already been seen by Anthony's defense team.

The information in the documents is not known, but Local 6 reporters will peruse them as soon as they're released and provide a full report on Local 6 News at noon.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty, saying that Caylee was kidnapped by a baby sitter.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:57:32 AM
O.K. I'm ready.I borrowed some glasses from Brandi.    ::MonkeyHaHa::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/monkeyguy-reading.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 08:30:23 AM
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Good Morning trim and Monks.  Document day!! ::MonkeyCheer4::

Please take a moment to remember those killed and injured at Ft. Hood, and their families...so many heroes. ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 08:33:37 AM
Sunny.      ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 08:37:51 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 08:56:24 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.

And I thought they were just playing with him on this one, letting him lie to his heart's content, knowing he would be thoroughly tripped up later. I thought that took restraint, I would have wanted to say - Oh Yeah.... what about?... etc and confront him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 06, 2009, 09:00:20 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/why-isnt-there-a-sketch-for-caylee-anthonys-murderer/

Why isn’t there a Sketch for Caylee Anthony’s Murderer?

Thursday, November 5, 2009

 ::MonkeySlide::  Just got back.Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyKiss::
good morning monkeys  __Why do you need a sketch of Caylee Murderer-you have a hundreds of picture fo Casey ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:07:52 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?

CC you are one sick puppy.....setting your brain on fire like that ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:09:24 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/why-isnt-there-a-sketch-for-caylee-anthonys-murderer/

Why isn’t there a Sketch for Caylee Anthony’s Murderer?

Thursday, November 5, 2009

 ::MonkeySlide::  Just got back.Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyKiss::
good morning monkeys  __Why do you need a sketch of Caylee Murderer-you have a hundreds of picture fo Casey ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 09:14:58 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?

CC you are one sick puppy.....setting your brain on fire like that ::MonkeyDevil::

You ain't see nothing yet...

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/fire-1.gif)

Any word on doc dump yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 09:15:50 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?

CC you are one sick puppy.....setting your brain on fire like that ::MonkeyDevil::

Oh Lordy...lol.

I hope the documents come soon. I didn't know our CC is good at startin' fires. I saw the trouble he started recently with his little joke and tried to pin it on poor Fanny Mae...even got some gals riled up about it over at Blinks. OMG. lol. What a stinker! I was lmao!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 09:20:51 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?

CC you are one sick puppy.....setting your brain on fire like that ::MonkeyDevil::

Oh Lordy...lol.

I hope the documents come soon. I didn't know our CC is good at startin' fires. I saw the trouble he started recently with his little joke and tried to pin it on poor Fanny Mae...even got some gals riled up about it over at Blinks. OMG. lol. What a stinker! I was lmao!

Some gals riled up at Blinks?  Oh do tell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:21:21 AM


Any word on doc dump yet?

Not yet...we are waiting!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 09:26:11 AM
Some gals riled up at Blinks?  Oh do tell.

Hmmm...for some reason I feel the need to clarify...riled up as in believed the oprah story.

It's in the thread about Kronk getting fired. A couple of ladies were talking about it and then discovered it was a joke.

Stay out of the rain you cute little gremlin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 09:29:41 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.

OK this is really starting to piss me off!! Why even bother having the word "perjury" on the law books when NO ONE takes this seriously! OMG, these people are lying and contradicting themselves to LE, FBI, Lawyers, anyone that asks them a question and NO FREAKING charges are brought against them. I think they need to create a new "Anthony" law, say whatever you want, we'll accommodate you, no problem. 

How come others are brought up on perjury charges and they are not?? They are setting an example that people don't really have to follow this law, it's all just a smoke screen, we won't really do anything to you. LE needs to grab George and Cindy and throw their azzes in jail over this. JMHO  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MonkeyinSC on November 06, 2009, 09:30:38 AM
G'morning Monkeys -

I hope it is OK for me to post a link to Blink's site regarding today's release:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/#respond

Justice for Caylee !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 09:31:29 AM
Some gals riled up at Blinks?  Oh do tell.

Hmmm...for some reason I feel the need to clarify...riled up as in believed the oprah story.

It's in the thread about Kronk getting fired. A couple of ladies were talking about it and then discovered it was a joke.

Stay out of the rain you cute little gremlin.

LOL.  You know the scamthony's are up to something with the book out and the doc dump today and all.  I sense a meltdown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
Murder case:

11/5/2009     A     NOTICE TAKING DEPO FILED

Is this for Dominic Casey?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:35:08 AM
Trim...would you post this please from the site?


11/5/2009 A NOTICE TAKING DEPO FILED
On the Clerk of Courts records for the murder case...don't know who?.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:35:51 AM
oopppssss sorry tupelo....didn't see that you were on top of it already!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:35:59 AM
Murder case:

11/5/2009     A     NOTICE TAKING DEPO FILED

Is this for Dominic Casey?

I do not know.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 09:37:30 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.

And I thought they were just playing with him on this one, letting him lie to his heart's content, knowing he would be thoroughly tripped up later. I thought that took restraint, I would have wanted to say - Oh Yeah.... what about?... etc and confront him.
My favorite quote is this:
The 12 lb breech baby is bearing down hard at this point.
What this boils down to is George throwing Casey under the bus.  Again.  (As I'll bet we'll see if the Grand Jury testimony resulting in indictment is ever released.)  Duct tape when it left his possession, no duct tape later, then voila, Duct Tape.  (First, there is some duct tape, then there is no duct tape, then there is. To, badly, paraphrase Donovan.)  Who put the duct tape on there?  Well, let's see.  Could it be, no, of course not, not Casey, the Mother of the Year! 
Sorry, Document Day makes me giddy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
I have Kronk down for a deposition on the 19th. at 9:00  by Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 09:38:29 AM
Some gals riled up at Blinks?  Oh do tell.

Hmmm...for some reason I feel the need to clarify...riled up as in believed the oprah story.

It's in the thread about Kronk getting fired. A couple of ladies were talking about it and then discovered it was a joke.

Stay out of the rain you cute little gremlin.

LOL.  You know the scamthony's are up to something with the book out and the doc dump today and all.  I sense a meltdown.

I thought it was funny.

Oh you know they're gonna fire back with something. I'm surprised they haven't already.

Ughhhhhhh!

I have valium kitty on standby!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:38:57 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.

OK this is really starting to piss me off!! Why even bother having the word "perjury" on the law books when NO ONE takes this seriously! OMG, these people are lying and contradicting themselves to LE, FBI, Lawyers, anyone that asks them a question and NO FREAKING charges are brought against them. I think they need to create a new "Anthony" law, say whatever you want, we'll accommodate you, no problem. 

How come others are brought up on perjury charges and they are not?? They are setting an example that people don't really have to follow this law, it's all just a smoke screen, we won't really do anything to you. LE needs to grab George and Cindy and throw their azzes in jail over this. JMHO  ::MonkeyMad::

LOL...Good Morning BOO! ::MonkeyKiss::  Looks like that got your blood moving this morning!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:40:28 AM
You're welcome, Fanny!

I am heavy-hearted as well tonight. Good news that little Shannon Lee was found alive, but then, this Texas massacre!

So we need one more:

       (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation5-sm.gif)

I'm snagging that.  How do you do that?  Photoshop or something?

CC you are one sick puppy.....setting your brain on fire like that ::MonkeyDevil::

Oh Lordy...lol.

I hope the documents come soon. I didn't know our CC is good at startin' fires. I saw the trouble he started recently with his little joke and tried to pin it on poor Fanny Mae...even got some gals riled up about it over at Blinks. OMG. lol. What a stinker! I was lmao!

None of us are safe........   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


he State Attorney's Office has just released more than 2,100 pages of documents in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

The documents were released in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork. Reporters at the Orlando Sentinel are reviewing the documents and will provide an update shortly.

Among the 2,100 pages are emails between Orange County detectives and FBI employees, evidence lists and about a dozen photos, including one of Casey Anthony and her daughter.

continued at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html

State Attorney To Release Unseen Casey Evidence
1,000 More Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Expected

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The State Attorney's Office will release 1,000 more pages of evidence in the case against Casey Anthony on Friday, according to a spokeswoman.

WESH 2 has learned much of the material in the documents will be FBI-related.

Casey Anthony is charged with the murder of her daughter Caylee Anthony, who was reported missing on July 15, 2008.

Millionaire Bob Ward, who is accused of killing his wife, will get a pass this weekend to reportedly attend her funeral, authorities told WESH 2 on Thursday.

Casey Anthony was not allowed to attend her daughter's funeral. However, authorities said, Ward's travel from Orange to Brevard County will set a precedent for the company monitoring his home confinement.

Sarah Cargill, of Court Programs Inc., said the order from Judge Walter Komanski did not specify why Ward was being allowed to travel on Saturday. Sources tell WESH 2 that it's for his late wife's funeral. Diane Ward grew up in Rockledge and her elderly mother still lives there.

"Since I've been here in the history of the company, I don't think we've had a situation like Mr. Ward's, but it does vary," Cargill said.

Watch The Video

Earlier this year, Orange County jail administrators said their policy would never allow murder suspect Casey Anthony to travel to her daughter Caylee's memorial. Some people are asking why Ward is getting special treatment.

An Orange County corrections spokesman described Ward and Anthony's cases as "apples and oranges." Ward is out on bond and no longer in state custody, the spokesman said. This means his travel is up to the judge's discretion.

The home confinement company said Ward has followed court ordered guidelines regarding his bond to the letter.

"He's abiding by everything he's supposed to," the spokesman said.

The sheriff's department said they didn't think letting Ward travel was a good idea and are considering the possibility of sending police presence to the Saturday service.

Stay with WESH 2 News and WESH.com for complete coverage of the evidence set to be released Friday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:45:48 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/detail.html




More Info Released In Anthony Case
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death

POSTED: Friday, November 6, 2009
UPDATED: 9:41 am EST November 6, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Images and hundreds of pages of documents related to the Casey Anthony case were released on Friday.

DOCUMENTS: I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX
IMAGES: Casey Anthony Case | II | III

The state attorney's office released the new documents, which have already been seen by Anthony's defense team, as part of the discovery process.

Local 6 reporters are going over the documents and will provide a full report on Local 6 News at noon.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty, saying that Caylee was kidnapped by a baby sitter.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:46:34 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21539718/detail.html
2,100 Pages Of Documents Relased In Casey Case

Posted: 9:21 am EST November 6, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Over 2,000 pages of documents were released Friday morning in the case against Casey Anthony.

WFTV.com is going through all the documents and will be posting them as quickly as possible.

Check back for the posted documents and details on what they contain.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 09:49:10 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


he State Attorney's Office has just released more than 2,100 pages of documents in the criminal case against Casey Anthony, the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

The documents were released in response to a public record request. Anthony's defense team has already received the paperwork. Reporters at the Orlando Sentinel are reviewing the documents and will provide an update shortly.

Among the 2,100 pages are emails between Orange County detectives and FBI employees, evidence lists and about a dozen photos, including one of Casey Anthony and her daughter.

continued at link


Darn, I see nothing pointing to an entomology report in these 2100 pages.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
I missed this earlier...... ::MonkeyEek::




2.  The spastic phone calls of Cindy Anthony that began on June 30th and went through July 3rd.  This same time period has Cindy creating her myspace and openly stating her concerns about Caylee’s welfare. It also has Cindy phoning Lee and telling him to find his sister in Orlando (which proves Cindy knew damned well Casey was in Orlando), and lastly, but far more importantly, it shows that the “friend” of Casey’s who tipped her off that Lee was coming to talk to her was the same friend we’ve heard George and Cindy testify to in bond hearings, interviews with LE and sworn depositions to be Casey’s BFF – Cindy.  I’m hoping to see prosecutors ask her why she tipped Casey off.  To be quite honest, I don’t think it was Cindy trying to ensure Lee wouldn’t meet up with Casey, I think it’s just another instance of Cindy trying to be a bad-ass and probably calling Casey and threatening that “your brother is coming to get you and you’re coming home”.  Anyways, it’s apparent in the timeline once you stack the ping cell data with the call data that Cindy is, in fact, the one who tipped Casey off


.http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 06, 2009, 09:51:34 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Part 3
November 5th, 2009

Thanks tupelo.......I love this point!!

"Of course, later in the deposition George would go so far as to intimate that OCSO had planted the duct tape on the gas can.  He states the duct tape wasn’t on the gas can when OCSO took it in December, but was on the gas can when they brought it back.  This in the face of the photographic evidence that the duct tape was already on the gas can on August 1…but that seems to be just a minor technicality for George."



QUOTE :
Several things are apparent in this review:

1.  Henkel duct tape is tied to George Anthony and the Anthony home, which in turn means Casey Anthony had opportunity to use it in the management of Caylee’s dead body, if not as a means for murdering Caylee.

2.  George Anthony knows that (1.) is true.  And he is more than prepared, yet extremely unskilled to, lie in sworn depositions, and most likely on the stand, concerning the Henkel duct tape.

3.  And when (2.) takes place during the trial – I’m going to have my DVR going…because I wouldn’t miss this train wreck for the world.

What I find odd about GA's gas can/duct tape lies is that it totally contradicts what Cindy testified to in her depo that was before his. You'd think they'd have discussed it at home after her depo. But maybe the contradicting testimonies is a way for these lowlifes to cover all their bases, they think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 09:52:37 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 09:52:47 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf
Thanks Trimm.  What is page 7 photo of?  Is that from the Anthony porch?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:53:30 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/detail.html
More Info Released In Anthony Case
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death

POSTED: Friday, November 6, 2009
UPDATED: 9:49 am EST November 6, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Images and hundreds of pages of documents related to the Casey Anthony case were released on Friday.

DOCUMENTS: I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII
IMAGES: Casey Anthony Case | II | III

The state attorney's office released the new documents, which have already been seen by Anthony's defense team, as part of the discovery process.

Local 6 reporters are going over the documents and will provide a full report on Local 6 News at noon.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty, saying that Caylee was kidnapped by a baby sitter.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
doc #4  entomology report!  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 09:57:24 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

Man, that knife looks sharp to me! Flatware my azz, that could cut duct tape!!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her little baby doll.... it looks so clean compared to the other items.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 09:59:57 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

I love phorid flies!! You are cooked Casey!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 10:10:40 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

Man, that knife looks sharp to me! Flatware my azz, that could cut duct tape!!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her little baby doll.... it looks so clean compared to the other items.

Feel like you been punched in the gut.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
More Info Released In Anthony Case

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539762.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539769.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539771.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/download/2009/1106/21539802.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539806.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539833.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/download/2009/1106/21539835.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539847.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539886.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539890.pdf


IMAGES:

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250159/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b


http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250247/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:11:44 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

Man, that knife looks sharp to me! Flatware my azz, that could cut duct tape!!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her little baby doll.... it looks so clean compared to the other items.

ITA...that's a sharp knife!!!

Cindy cleaned the doll up a little...according to spindy...ahem.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 10:12:25 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:13:47 AM
I am amazed at the depths of the evidence finds...the leg of a fly!!  Those people are the scene and in the labs were indeed very thorough


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 10:14:36 AM
More Info Released In Anthony Case

Thanks Northern Rose.

Wow...I was expecting them to come in later in the day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:15:35 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

Man, that knife looks sharp to me! Flatware my azz, that could cut duct tape!!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her little baby doll.... it looks so clean compared to the other items.

Yep...that is a steak knife with serrated edges...not just a flatware.

 knife.....I am assuming this the doll found in the car??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:16:17 AM
More Info Released In Anthony Case

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539762.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539769.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539771.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/download/2009/1106/21539802.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539806.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539833.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/download/2009/1106/21539835.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539847.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539886.pdf

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539890.pdf


IMAGES:

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250159/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b


http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250247/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b


thanks NR


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

WHAT IS #11??????  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MonkeyinSC on November 06, 2009, 10:17:19 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

I love phorid flies!! You are cooked Casey!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

From Pg 7 of the Entomology Report:

"... the most likely interpretation is that the body was removed after purging occurred but before decomposition proceeded to post-bloat. These conditions imply that remains were removed earlier in this interval ( June 19-22) rather than later (June 23-27)..."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 10:22:27 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

WHAT IS #11??????  ::MonkeyShocked::

balloon?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 06, 2009, 10:24:07 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

WHAT IS #11??????  ::MonkeyShocked::
Mylar winnie the pooh balloon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

WHAT IS #11??????  ::MonkeyShocked::

IDK - maybe a balloon?    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 10:24:55 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Sass I have missed you  ::MonkeyWink:: It is sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 10:26:05 AM
JSM and Trimm     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 10:26:41 AM
So if I am reading this correctly - is it safe to say they have proof that the stain in the trunk is from decomposition fluids? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 10:28:05 AM

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Sass I have missed you  ::MonkeyWink:: It is sad.

Missed you too!   Wonder what old Georgie and SinSin are doing today?   Maybe getting a new tattoo on their foreheads?   Maybe 666?     ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 06, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
JSM and Trimm     ::MonkeyAngel::
  ::MonkeyKiss:: Hi Sassy. I've missed you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:36:20 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::

Just have to say, I am, in no way, an expert when it comes to this kinda stuff, but after reading, if I was a juror, well...Buh bye Casey!  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 10:37:45 AM
Oh,my.  Heartbreaking.  I was surprised at how easy to read the language of the entomomolgy report was.  (Easier than that sentence I just wrote, that's for sure.)  Did anyone notice the verbiage, "the paper towels were gently straightened out from their wadded condition".  The word gently struck me in the heart.  If only Caylee had been treated with such consideration when she was alive... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 10:38:41 AM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

WHAT IS #11??????  ::MonkeyShocked::

balloon?

That's what it looks like to me.

Good morning everyone & thanks for the links!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 10:42:55 AM
What's with these freaks?  They all have this food fetish - showing half eaten food in their mouths.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
WESH 2 News reporter Eryka Washington details the release of new documents in the Casey Anthony case.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21540211/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

I love phorid flies!! You are cooked Casey!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::
Yes she is and soon she should be fried!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 10:43:22 AM

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Sass I have missed you  ::MonkeyWink:: It is sad.

Missed you too!   Wonder what old Georgie and SinSin are doing today?   Maybe getting a new tattoo on their foreheads?   Maybe 666?     ::MonkeyMad::
SASSY, I was asking about you last night. I hope you are ok. I know this has probably hit you very hard, being ex-military.  :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 10:43:22 AM
Oh,my.  Heartbreaking.  I was surprised at how easy to read the language of the entomomolgy report was.  (Easier than that sentence I just wrote, that's for sure.)  Did anyone notice the verbiage, "the paper towels were gently straightened out from their wadded condition".  The word gently struck me in the heart.  If only Caylee had been treated with such consideration when she was alive... ::MonkeyMad::

Well, I couldn't wait for today and now I don't know if I can't take it.  ::MonkeyTears::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 10:45:08 AM
(http://i35.tinypic.com/6tnsih.jpg)

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15084977/Forensic-Entymology-Report

(page 7)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 10:45:45 AM

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Sass I have missed you  ::MonkeyWink:: It is sad.

Missed you too!   Wonder what old Georgie and SinSin are doing today?   Maybe getting a new tattoo on their foreheads?   Maybe 666?     ::MonkeyMad::
With a big L right next to it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 10:45:56 AM
doc #4  entomology report!  ::cartwheel::

Fill up the needle!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 10:48:47 AM
6/18/08 Tony car shovel?????

6/20/08 boy friend rt side truck open???    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
What's with these freaks?  They all have this food fetish - showing half eaten food in their mouths.

It's all about being gross. Stupid woman...she didn't need the food did she?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 10:52:14 AM
Lee said during his depo that KC's room was always a mess-  thank God she was also such a slob in her car. The evidence is going to kill her...
I was all set to go out today, but have just revised my plans.... gotta love these doc dumps.
Have a nice day Cindy..   explain this away as Junk Science if you can!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:56:43 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::

Just have to say, I am, in no way, an expert when it comes to this kinda stuff, but after reading, if I was a juror, well...Buh bye Casey!  ::MonkeyHang::

Gizzie......me too!!  And the so called dream (nightmare) team and good old Brad needs to read these reports stating in various places...DUCT TAPE REMOVED FROM THE SKULL....you frigging  idiots!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 10:57:17 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::

Just have to say, I am, in no way, an expert when it comes to this kinda stuff, but after reading, if I was a juror, well...Buh bye Casey!  ::MonkeyHang::

Dr Neil Haskell is the world's leading expert- he says Coffin flies were present in the car.
Bye bye  KC! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
Lee said during his depo that KC's room was always a mess-  thank God she was also such a slob in her car. The evidence is going to kill her...
I was all set to go out today, but have just revised my plans.... gotta love these doc dumps.
Have a nice day Cindy..   explain this away as Junk Science if you can!

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 10:58:59 AM
Lee said during his depo that KC's room was always a mess-  thank God she was also such a slob in her car. The evidence is going to kill her...
I was all set to go out today, but have just revised my plans.... gotta love these doc dumps.
Have a nice day Cindy..   explain this away as Junk Science if you can!

 Junk science...LOL....The report is clear....decomp fluid in the DAMN CAR!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 10:59:02 AM
JSM and Trimm     ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:59:33 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::

Just have to say, I am, in no way, an expert when it comes to this kinda stuff, but after reading, if I was a juror, well...Buh bye Casey!  ::MonkeyHang::

Gizzie......me too!!  And the so called dream (nightmare) team and good old Brad needs to read these reports stating in various places...DUCT TAPE REMOVED FROM THE SKULL....you frigging  idiots!!!

 :smt045  :smt043


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 11:00:11 AM
                                                       (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/awww-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 11:00:21 AM

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Sass I have missed you  ::MonkeyWink:: It is sad.

Missed you too!   Wonder what old Georgie and SinSin are doing today?   Maybe getting a new tattoo on their foreheads?   Maybe 666?     ::MonkeyMad::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 11:00:34 AM
What's with these freaks?  They all have this food fetish - showing half eaten food in their mouths.

Disgusting.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 11:03:41 AM
The state of decomp material and bug activity suggest removal from the car June 19-22 rather than later, June 23-27.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 11:03:51 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf
Entomology Report

reading this report is making my stomach queasy and escalating my hatred for kc..................poor Caylee's little body being fed upon by all type of bugs...... ::MonkeyMad::

Just have to say, I am, in no way, an expert when it comes to this kinda stuff, but after reading, if I was a juror, well...Buh bye Casey!  ::MonkeyHang::

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Link to WESH Livewire.
http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Casey_Anthony_Documents_Nov_6_2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 11:15:18 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/

Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: New Discovery Released


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 11:18:02 AM
Firearms examination and bullet jacket found not far from remains???

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539806.pdf  pages 41 - 43     ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 11:20:58 AM
Someone help me with my thinking here...I'm reading about the duct tape.

It has a durable cotton/polyester cloth to prevent machine direction tearing...so it's very very hard to tear and you'd need maybe "flat ware" knife to cut it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 11:22:18 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BugEvidenceSummary-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 11:25:11 AM
6/18/08 Tony car shovel?????

6/20/08 boy friend rt side truck open???    ::MonkeyEek::

Hi Boo!  I remember reading in Tony's depo about Casey running out of gas & he went to help her.  But I don't remember about the shovel at that point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
Casey Anthony Documents Released Nov. 6

PDF: Anthony Documents, Nov. 6, Photographs
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21539968.pdf

PDF: Anthony Documents, Nov. 6, FBI Test
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21540213.pdf

PDF: Anthony Documents, Nov. 6, DNA Tests
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21540216.pdf

PDF: Anthony Documents, Set 13 (Nov. 6) Knife
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21540469.pdf

PDF: Anthony Documents Nov. 6 Insects, Tires
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21540821.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 11:30:27 AM
Someone help me with my thinking here...I'm reading about the duct tape.

It has a durable cotton/polyester cloth to prevent machine direction tearing...so it's very very hard to tear and you'd need maybe "flat ware" knife to cut it?

Never mind...stupid question...she could have cut it with anything at the house. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 11:31:45 AM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 11:31:48 AM
residues of chloroform


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 11:37:30 AM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

yup


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 11:38:34 AM

FBI lab technicians detected traces of chloroform inside a sports drink and plastic syringe recovered near the scene where the remains of Caylee Marie were found in 2008.
Those details and others are included in the more than 2,100 pages of documents released today by the State Attorney's Office in the criminal case against Casey Anthony -- the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

The report from the FBI's lab shows the Cool Blue-flavored Gatorade drink contained an "unknown liquid." The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit" with a plastic syringe inside of the bag.

A report labeled "Summary of results" by Dr. Michael Rickenbach of the FBI indicates chemical tests show the syringe contained chloroform, ethanol and water.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 11:43:39 AM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jennifer34 on November 06, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
I am sure this has been answered some where over the last several months, but I was wondering why a syringe would be needed.  Why wouldn't she just pour the chyloroform in the drink bottle?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 06, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
What is clear to me and probably to everyone else is, that mommy dearest did a bang up job of cleaning up every piece of evidence from all the personal items in the car. KC's clothes, knife, doll, shoes, clothing and generally detailing the whole car. Both parents did this in the full knowledge that they were destroying evidence, luckily they didn't have enough time to finish the job or find a way to get their hands on garbage bag, otherwise there would be nothing left. We all know Georgie knows how to clean a crime scene...
I don't see how charges aren't pending against these people, I'm so angry right now, how do they look at themselves in a mirror and not feel disgust. 
                   ::MonkeyMad::


Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 11:46:44 AM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

6 and 9


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

 ::MonkeyMad::

A SYRINGE!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 11:53:42 AM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?



(http://i36.tinypic.com/abr0ut.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 11:54:03 AM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

What a diabolical piece of chit KC is. I know chloroform is usually breathed into the body, but what effect would it have if it was injected? Wouldn't it be very painful? What would be the effects on the body?  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
What is clear to me and probably to everyone else is, that mommy dearest did a bang up job of cleaning up every piece of evidence from all the personal items in the car. KC's clothes, knife, doll, shoes, clothing and generally detailing the whole car. Both parents did this in the full knowledge that they were destroying evidence, luckily they didn't have enough time to finish the job or find a way to get their hands on garbage bag, otherwise there would be nothing left. We all know Georgie knows how to clean a crime scene...
I don't see how charges aren't pending against these people, I'm so angry right now, how do they look at themselves in a mirror and not feel disgust. 
                   ::MonkeyMad::


Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

Yup! And that's the million dollar question too...how do they not disgust themselves?

It's a good thing they didn't find Caylee or they would have been down there cleaning up that scene too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 11:55:53 AM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?



(http://i36.tinypic.com/abr0ut.jpg)

God only knows how she acted when she found out about the Scamthony cruise....... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
would someone help me with this....
.http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf...page #7, starting with the first paragraph..Since the majority of these specimens.....

I can't copy and paste from a pdf....(signed stupid)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 11:56:58 AM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

6 and 9

Thanks CC & TRIMM.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: karenmamo on November 06, 2009, 11:58:19 AM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

This may be the only thing I laugh about all day.
Thanks for the much needed humor on this day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 11:58:39 AM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?



(http://i36.tinypic.com/abr0ut.jpg)

seeme ::MonkeyKiss::  someone needs to post the instructions, in very SIMPLE terms ::MonkeyWink:: how to do that in the test thread...please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jennifer34 on November 06, 2009, 11:59:40 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sea Searcher on November 06, 2009, 12:00:25 PM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyMad:: If they could just get some fingerprints on anything at that crime scene...

Good Morning Trim !! and Monkeys !! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:01:31 PM
I seldom have much faith in what the rags print...but this one i believe...it sounds just like what she would say and do!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:03:12 PM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyMad:: If they could just get some fingerprints on anything at that crime scene...

Good Morning Trim !! and Monkeys !! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)
Hi SS...and hopefully they have and we just don't know it yet...... ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:09:39 PM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:09:40 PM
Did anyone see a report on the hairs found on the paper towel that was found with decomp?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 06, 2009, 12:11:21 PM
The bug report is helping narrow down the time of death - the car had to smell on June 24th.  George knew then, or the entire scene about the gas cans on the 24th is more Anthony crap.  KC is going to fry and I will be repulsed if George and Cindy are not charged. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 12:16:30 PM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story
That's huge, between this the entomology and the bottle and syringe I want to hear the spin now. Oh, it will be Zanny or one of the boyfriends, Tony or Ricardo who did all this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:19:28 PM
PDF: Document Released 1: Pages 1-12
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539606.pdf

PDF: Document Released 2: Pages 1-11
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539762.pdf

PDF: Document Released 3: Pages 1-2
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539762.pdf

PDF: Document Released 4: Pages 1-30
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539770.pdf

PDF: Document Released 5: Pages 1-71
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539771.pdf

PDF: Document Released 6: Pages 1-68
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539802.pdf

PDF: Document Released 7: Pages 1-61
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539806.pdf

PDF: Document Released 8: Pages 1-25
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539833.pdf

PDF: Document Released 9: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539835.pdf

PDF: Document Released 10: Pages 1-36
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539847.pdf

PDF: Document Released 11: Pages 1-49
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539886.pdf

PDF: Document Released 12: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539890.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 12:19:56 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Injecting chloroform     http://books.google.com/books?id=ibICAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA677&lpg=PA677&dq=injecting+chloroform&source=bl&ots=DUVaD6GV0O&sig=ZYknpgiIMmGz-Qn4tuUddMDT3n0&hl=en&ei=TVn0SvHKLtXe8AbLiNDzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=injecting%20chloroform&f=false


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 12:20:59 PM
Did anyone see a report on the hairs found on the paper towel that was found with decomp?
   They found two kinds of hairs as well in the paper towels. Perhaps those will be able to be identified. One type is short and dark, the other were longer and lighter brown. Even with good cleaning of the trunk George, you can't get rid of all the evidence, never happens.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 12:22:32 PM
The bug report is helping narrow down the time of death - the car had to smell on June 24th.  George knew then, or the entire scene about the gas cans on the 24th is more Anthony crap.  KC is going to fry and I will be repulsed if George and Cindy are not charged. 

Me too.    ::MonkeyMad::       

Thanks to all providing the links, pictures, and such.     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 12:24:44 PM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

6 and 9

Thanks CC & TRIMM.  ::MonkeyCool::

Glad it wasn't just me.I had to go for a walk.I do not feel any better.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
I want to see those idiots spin all this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:25:08 PM
PDF: Document Released 1: Pages 1-12
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539606.pdf
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf

PDF: Document Released 2: Pages 1-11
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539762.pdf
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539762.pdf

PDF: Document Released 3: Pages 1-2
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539762.pdf
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539762.pdf


PDF: Document Released 4: Pages 1-30
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539770.pdf
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf

PDF: Document Released 5: Pages 1-71
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539771.pdf
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539771.pdf


PDF: Document Released 6: Pages 1-68
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539802.pdf

PDF: Document Released 7: Pages 1-61
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539806.pdf

PDF: Document Released 8: Pages 1-25
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539833.pdf

PDF: Document Released 9: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539835.pdf

PDF: Document Released 10: Pages 1-36
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539847.pdf

PDF: Document Released 11: Pages 1-49
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539886.pdf

PDF: Document Released 12: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download…6/21539890.pdf

I am correcting the links......1st ones do not work......I apologize


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:30:19 PM
PDF: Document Released 6: Pages 1-68
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539802.pdf

PDF: Document Released 7: Pages 1-61
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539806.pdf

PDF: Document Released 8: Pages 1-25
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539833.pdf

PDF: Document Released 9: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539835.pdf

PDF: Document Released 10: Pages 1-36
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539847.pdf

PDF: Document Released 11: Pages 1-49
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539886.pdf

PDF: Document Released 12: Pages 1-76
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539890.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 12:30:51 PM
Smoking gun: chloroform, in trunk, by remains, and computer searches. Now where did that testosterone come from, is Jesse, Tony or Ricardo on steriods? Lee and George I doubt, but who knows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 12:31:01 PM
Testosterone was also found in the bottle containing chloroform......I'm wondering where she obtained that.....the Anthony house?  When Cindy first went in for her deposition with the state, she had a plastic bag that some believe contained her medicine bottles. In the article on OS it states that testosterone is used to prevent or reduce osteoporosis, among other diseases. Hmmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 12:31:36 PM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyMad:: If they could just get some fingerprints on anything at that crime scene...

Good Morning Trim !! and Monkeys !! (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/SSmonkeyguycoffeespill.gif)

Hey Sea!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 12:32:00 PM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

Oh what little Caylee went through... my heart just breaks for her!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:32:59 PM
Did anyone see a report on the hairs found on the paper towel that was found with decomp?
   They found two kinds of hairs as well in the paper towels. Perhaps those will be able to be identified. One type is short and dark, the other were longer and lighter brown. Even with good cleaning of the trunk George, you can't get rid of all the evidence, never happens.

Hi nrcg and thanks..I was reading it...got a call and then my computer froze and I had to reboot and had no idea where I was reading it as I had several windows open.  So you didn't see a report stating who the hairs belonged to?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 12:33:21 PM
I am having trouble downloading a couple of pdf's from the ClickOrlando site. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

6 and 9

Thanks CC & TRIMM.  ::MonkeyCool::

Glad it wasn't just me.I had to go for a walk.I do not feel any better.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
I want to see those idiots spin all this. 
:smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
page 5 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539806.pdf

Key with keychain


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
would someone help me with this....
.http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf...page #7, starting with the first paragraph..Since the majority of these specimens.....

I can't copy and paste from a pdf....(signed stupid)

I hope this is what you were looking at


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 12:38:35 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 12:40:43 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

Down town office bldg, Rengents I think they said. per fox


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 12:40:44 PM
Did anyone see a report on the hairs found on the paper towel that was found with decomp?
   They found two kinds of hairs as well in the paper towels. Perhaps those will be able to be identified. One type is short and dark, the other were longer and lighter brown. Even with good cleaning of the trunk George, you can't get rid of all the evidence, never happens.

Hi nrcg and thanks..I was reading it...got a call and then my computer froze and I had to reboot and had no idea where I was reading it as I had several windows open.  So you didn't see a report stating who the hairs belonged to?
No, but I'm having computer issues, and doing other things, and keep running back to read, not sure about who the hairs belong to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

Down town office bldg, REGENTS I think they said. per fox


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:42:37 PM
would someone help me with this....
.http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf...page #7, starting with the first paragraph..Since the majority of these specimens.....

I can't copy and paste from a pdf....(signed stupid)

I hope this is what you were looking at


NR - it was and thank you......positive proof of decomp in the trunk of the car......and on the paper towels...how in the hell is the defense gonna try to put a spin on this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 12:42:52 PM
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

ORLANDO, Fla.-- New evidence released on Friday in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.

That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car.
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:43:25 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

oh mercy!!!  thanks NR


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 12:06 pm EST November 6, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- New evidence released on Friday in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.

That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:45:04 PM
Hey Cece....looks like we're on the same page ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 12:46:12 PM
Did anyone see a report on the hairs found on the paper towel that was found with decomp?
   They found two kinds of hairs as well in the paper towels. Perhaps those will be able to be identified. One type is short and dark, the other were longer and lighter brown. Even with good cleaning of the trunk George, you can't get rid of all the evidence, never happens.

Hi nrcg and thanks..I was reading it...got a call and then my computer froze and I had to reboot and had no idea where I was reading it as I had several windows open.  So you didn't see a report stating who the hairs belonged to?
No, but I'm having computer issues, and doing other things, and keep running back to read, not sure about who the hairs belong to.

Thanks...hope you get your computer issues cleared up quickly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 12:46:19 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Injecting chloroform     http://books.google.com/books?id=ibICAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA677&lpg=PA677&dq=injecting+chloroform&source=bl&ots=DUVaD6GV0O&sig=ZYknpgiIMmGz-Qn4tuUddMDT3n0&hl=en&ei=TVn0SvHKLtXe8AbLiNDzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=injecting%20chloroform&f=false

Thank you. Nothing good........ ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 12:46:58 PM
would someone help me with this....
.http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539770.pdf...page #7, starting with the first paragraph..Since the majority of these specimens.....

I can't copy and paste from a pdf....(signed stupid)

I hope this is what you were looking at


NR - it was and thank you......positive proof of decomp in the trunk of the car......and on the paper towels...how in the hell is the defense gonna try to put a spin on this?

They'll say either that it was not Caylee's body - or that someone else put the body in the car.   Didn't they try to imply that Jesse had a key to the car?    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 12:48:33 PM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

What a diabolical piece of chit KC is. I know chloroform is usually breathed into the body, but what effect would it have if it was injected? Wouldn't it be very painful? What would be the effects on the body?  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was wondering the same things Fanny - this is making me ill.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 12:49:22 PM
Hey Cece....looks like we're on the same page ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 12:49:23 PM
Gateway Center--Orlando, fl shooting

http://www.loopnet.com/property/15525724/1000-Legion-Place/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

check this...
Page 13
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540377.pdf
Benzos and keatmine?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 12:50:46 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
Must be some of that very difficult butter!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

Karma baby!.....I'm doing some wishful thinking as well no rose........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 12:54:42 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
Must be some of that very difficult butter!

For real.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

Oh what a wonderful thought No Rose!

kc would be stupid enough...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

check this...
Page 13
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540377.pdf
Benzos and keatmine?
Interesting, so Alprazolam/Xanax not present, but small amount Clonazepam, same difference more or less of xanax was present.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 01:02:30 PM
For anyone that needs to take a break from the docs:

Random Stupid Quotes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxcVQGlr_0g


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 01:10:40 PM
New Casey Evidence Spans Over 2,000 Pages
Friday, November 06, 2009 11:38:57 AM
ORLANDO -- The latest round of evidence made public in the case against Casey Anthony spans over 2,000 pages of documents.
The state Attorney's Office Friday released an FBI lab report labeled "Summary of Results" in response to a public record request, but the Attorney's Office did not immediately specify what exactly the data means to the case.
Including the new documents, over 12,000 pages of paperwork have been released in the case of Anthony, 23, who is charged with the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.
Casey’s defense team has reportedly received the paperwork. Her attorneys have been trying to get the whole case thrown out, saying her indictment was "unconstitutionally vague."
The new documents are coming just days after it a book based on the case hit store shelves across the country.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/5/...
All 34 docs are on link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 01:11:21 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf
Thanks Trimm.  What is page 7 photo of?  Is that from the Anthony porch?
Blink has stated on her site that is is a photo of the patio rug that lit up under ALS, but no proteins were detected.  Thanks Blink!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 06, 2009, 01:20:09 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 01:20:43 PM
For anyone that needs to take a break from the docs:

Random Stupid Quotes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxcVQGlr_0g


 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thank you CeCe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

check this...
Page 13
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540377.pdf
Benzos and keatmine?
Interesting, so Alprazolam/Xanax not present, but small amount Clonazepam, same difference more or less of xanax was present.

Hiya everyone  ::HelloKitty::, sorries Ive been preoccuppied but I just saw the news break about the shooting in Orlando & something came to mind about this area immediately.   Mark Nejame's office is on So Orange Avenue & Church St which is right there if not in the same building

I see more discovery is on the way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 01:24:02 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

I'll be keeping a look out for that one. Lol. That's a good laugh. We needed that news today...what great timing.

How is she going to afford lawyers for that?!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 01:27:08 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21539606.pdf
Thanks Trimm.  What is page 7 photo of?  Is that from the Anthony porch?
Blink has stated on her site that is is a photo of the patio rug that lit up under ALS, but no proteins were detected.  Thanks Blink!

Sorry,I just saw your post.I am crazy in the head right now.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 06, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Thanks MuffyBee.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 06, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 01:30:01 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623

Just published today 11/06/2009

(http://i33.tinypic.com/16kq82q.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 06, 2009, 01:31:10 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?



(http://i36.tinypic.com/abr0ut.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 01:32:15 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
Sharper than I thought it would be

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/KnifeEvidence.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

I know!!! Right?? It looked totally different than what I had in my head!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 01:36:46 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.

Absolutely CANNOT wait to hear from the duh fense about this being the "junk" science they keep talking about!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:37:17 PM

FBI lab technicians detected traces of chloroform inside a sports drink and plastic syringe recovered near the scene where the remains of Caylee Marie were found in 2008.
Those details and others are included in the more than 2,100 pages of documents released today by the State Attorney's Office in the criminal case against Casey Anthony -- the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

The report from the FBI's lab shows the Cool Blue-flavored Gatorade drink contained an "unknown liquid." The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit" with a plastic syringe inside of the bag.

A report labeled "Summary of results" by Dr. Michael Rickenbach of the FBI indicates chemical tests show the syringe contained chloroform, ethanol and water.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

HUGE stuff today....this shooting is taking away from covering these bombshells....I have alot of catching up to do.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:38:30 PM
Smoking gun: chloroform, in trunk, by remains, and computer searches. Now where did that testosterone come from, is Jesse, Tony or Ricardo on steriods? Lee and George I doubt, but who knows?

Lee and George don't have any testosterone, must have come from one of the guys she was dating.   ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Leroy on November 06, 2009, 01:38:41 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 01:39:53 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 01:40:18 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.

Absolutely CANNOT wait to hear from the duh fense about this being the "junk" science they keep talking about!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

Oh No Rose, you made my heart skip a beat!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



I long for the day that wench is in no position to demand anything.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 01:45:49 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

check this...
Page 13
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540377.pdf
Benzos and keatmine?
Interesting, so Alprazolam/Xanax not present, but small amount Clonazepam, same difference more or less of xanax was present.

Hiya everyone  ::HelloKitty::, sorries Ive been preoccuppied but I just saw the news break about the shooting in Orlando & something came to mind about this area immediately.   Mark Nejame's office is on So Orange Avenue & Church St which is right there if not in the same building

I see more discovery is on the way.

Good to see you Capp.  Hope you are doing well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
Hey Cappy.    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:48:39 PM
O/T - 8 people shot in Orlando

check this...
Page 13
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540377.pdf
Benzos and keatmine?
Interesting, so Alprazolam/Xanax not present, but small amount Clonazepam, same difference more or less of xanax was present.

Hiya everyone  ::HelloKitty::, sorries Ive been preoccuppied but I just saw the news break about the shooting in Orlando & something came to mind about this area immediately.   Mark Nejame's office is on So Orange Avenue & Church St which is right there if not in the same building

I see more discovery is on the way.

Good to see you Capp.  Hope you are doing well.

Tks Cece~  Yea, Im ok - had a bout of an ear infection/vertigo & still recovering but this too shall pass, its gotta I have a ton to do preparing for the holidays & such.   Hope all is well with you and everyone, I really have some major reading back


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 01:48:55 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

That would be the equivalent of winning the Lottery to me.  Of course KC will then blame her mother, claiming jealousy as the motive..
The Defense should be busy trying to beg for a plea bargain, not filing stupid motions about her fraud double jeopardy. Those students have obviously been at it again, shame they have only reached page 3 in the Instructions 'how to present a case'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:49:00 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  You really know how to seize an opportunity when it presents itself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::
And that includes taking a lunch break!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:49:17 PM
 ::HelloKitty:: Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:50:27 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::
And that includes taking a lunch break!

LMAO, yup!   Ill donate the Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:51:15 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



I long for the day that wench is in no position to demand anything.  ::MonkeyMad::

Hey, she has a right to call her lawyer! How else is she going to negotiate a piece of the action from jail?? She probably wants an input of who is going to play her!! You don't really think she objects to being in the spotlight around the world do you?? Naaah, she is reveling in the fact she is "world-renown".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:52:28 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



I long for the day that wench is in no position to demand anything.  ::MonkeyMad::

CASEY:    No money for you!  Bend over, grab your ankles & kiss your fugly @$$ buh bye!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:52:29 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::

No jumping ahead!! We are saving the jury pool bets till closer to the trial!!!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::

No jumping ahead!! We are saving the jury pool bets till closer to the trial!!!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

LOL   Oppsie, my bad...well write mine down 1 hour 20 minutes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



Thanks loca...saw this earlier,  usually Klaas gets it and scans and posts the whole story.....so like she said, perhaps tomorrow we will get the whole story ::MonkeyDevil::  I live in the hicks so I won't see it til I go to wallyworld!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 06, 2009, 01:54:17 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



I long for the day that wench is in no position to demand anything.  ::MonkeyMad::

Hey, she has a right to call her lawyer! How else is she going to negotiate a piece of the action from jail?? She probably wants an input of who is going to play her!! You don't really think she objects to being in the spotlight around the world do you?? Naaah, she is reveling in the fact she is "world-renown".
dern was hoping we could get a reaction when she found out her parents and brother took a caribbean cruise!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:54:31 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623

Just published today 11/06/2009

(http://i33.tinypic.com/16kq82q.jpg)

Thanks seeme ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: I have to say I am with you on that one Cappy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

That would be the equivalent of winning the Lottery to me.  Of course KC will then blame her mother, claiming jealousy as the motive..
The Defense should be busy trying to beg for a plea bargain, not filing stupid motions about her fraud double jeopardy. Those students have obviously been at it again, shame they have only reached page 3 in the Instructions 'how to present a case'.

As for being some of the best info the State has... hmmmm haven't read anything about what those insects were carrying around in their little bodies. I believe they can find Caylee's DNA in them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:55:23 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.

Amen!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 01:56:06 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::
And that includes taking a lunch break!

Yummmm, Chili anyone???   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:56:23 PM
Sharper than I thought it would be

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/KnifeEvidence.jpg)

The steak knives that go with my cutlery looks like this...sure as hell not a butter knife is it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 01:57:06 PM
from IS

I don't know how to post a link, but
There is an article in the national Enquirer about KC.
She exploded when she found out about the play in Austraila.
She demanded to see her f@#$^ lawyer ASAP
She wants to sue

Klaas?

The new Enquirer isn't in my store yet, maybe tomorrow.

Okey Dokey!! ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623
Casey Anthony EXPLODED when she learned a play based on the death of her daughter Caylee is opening,  demanding her lawyer sue to stop it. 



I long for the day that wench is in no position to demand anything.  ::MonkeyMad::

CASEY:    No money for you!  Bend over, grab your ankles & kiss your fugly @$$ buh bye!

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Smoking gun: chloroform, in trunk, by remains, and computer searches. Now where did that testosterone come from, is Jesse, Tony or Ricardo on steriods? Lee and George I doubt, but who knows?

Lee and George don't have any testosterone, must have come from one of the guys she was dating.   ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

NO!!!  I want to see them on the stand at the trial!!!  ::Baseball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

Oh No Rose, you made my heart skip a beat!!  ::MonkeyDevil::
wishful thinking on my part, I'm sure, but could happen, and that would be the biggest smoking gun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 02:01:37 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

That would be the equivalent of winning the Lottery to me.  Of course KC will then blame her mother, claiming jealousy as the motive..
The Defense should be busy trying to beg for a plea bargain, not filing stupid motions about her fraud double jeopardy. Those students have obviously been at it again, shame they have only reached page 3 in the Instructions 'how to present a case'.

As for being some of the best info the State has... hmmmm haven't read anything about what those insects were carrying around in their little bodies. I believe they can find Caylee's DNA in them.
I've been wondering about that too. We still have not seen a report on the maggots either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 06, 2009, 02:02:55 PM
Wonder when Conway will hit the airwaves, been kind of quiet so far  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 02:03:18 PM

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.

Don't stress Western, Caylee has been talking and the right people are listening. If, for some reason, KC doesn't get the death penalty, she will suffer, no doubt by the hands of some prison residents. There is no way she is getting out of this alive. Someone will get her. Years from now we will visit this Caylee thread and remark on how bad the years have treated her and why it took prisoners so long to get to her. Justice will be done!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 02:05:45 PM
Wonder when Conway will hit the airwaves, been kind of quiet so far  ::MonkeyRoll::

He's probably too busy trying to find an escape route  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 02:09:33 PM
Wonder when Conway will hit the airwaves, been kind of quiet so far  ::MonkeyRoll::

He's probably too busy trying to find an escape route  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 02:10:58 PM
Im gonna call it right here, right now with no reservation  & I predict the jury will be out 2 hours or less

 ::MonkeyGavel::GUILTY!   ::MonkeyJustice::

I'll start and pool and keep track of all guesses.  I take 10 hours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Cappuccino on November 06, 2009, 02:12:42 PM
OK  hate to post a few and run but I have to get to the doc's and food shopping afterwards.    News is saying now that the apartment complex where this suspect in the Orlando office building shooting has neighbors reporting one single gun shot & his car was found at the complex...when I get home I have to finish reading docs & Ill cyas later  MUAH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 06, 2009, 02:19:03 PM
Casey Anthony case: syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
FBI lab tests detected the dangerous chemical in evidence from the area where Caylee Marie's remains were found.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

OHMYGAWD!!!! 

 ::MonkeyShocked::

What a diabolical piece of chit KC is. I know chloroform is usually breathed into the body, but what effect would it have if it was injected? Wouldn't it be very painful? What would be the effects on the body?  ::MonkeyWaa::

I was wondering the same things Fanny - this is making me ill.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'd like to point out that "home made" chloroform separates out from the chemicals used to concoct it, it can be removed by syringe and/or anything that can draw the fluid out. So I hope this is the case and I wonder if she made it at home for this purpose....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 02:38:22 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Animation2.gif)

I also want to thank everyone for the great links and articles.

Still catching up, and have enjoyed all your comments.

Docs released today look real bad for the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 02:41:26 PM
Smoking gun: chloroform, in trunk, by remains, and computer searches. Now where did that testosterone come from, is Jesse, Tony or Ricardo on steriods? Lee and George I doubt, but who knows?

Lee and George don't have any testosterone, must have come from one of the guys she was dating.   ::MonkeyTease::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
What would be some of the best info the State has?  The lot number on the syringe is a lot number supplied to the office Cindy worked at, wishful thinking.

That would be the equivalent of winning the Lottery to me.  Of course KC will then blame her mother, claiming jealousy as the motive..
The Defense should be busy trying to beg for a plea bargain, not filing stupid motions about her fraud double jeopardy. Those students have obviously been at it again, shame they have only reached page 3 in the Instructions 'how to present a case'.

As for being some of the best info the State has... hmmmm haven't read anything about what those insects were carrying around in their little bodies. I believe they can find Caylee's DNA in them.

I think you are right Boo - and with what we know she is already in chair the bugs will be the needle.  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
OT Link to thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6437.new#new
2 dead and at least 7 injured in high-rise office shooting in Orlando, FL

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

Leroy:

You sure your last name isn't Brown? You bad, bad ....  LOL

O/T: You have a message from me at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1005966#msg1005966


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Animation2.gif)

I also want to thank everyone for the great links and articles.

Still catching up, and have enjoyed all your comments.

Docs released today look real bad for the Anthonys.

Perfect   BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 02:48:15 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Animation2.gif)

I also want to thank everyone for the great links and articles.

Still catching up, and have enjoyed all your comments.

Docs released today look real bad for the Anthonys.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Thanks Brandi I needed that laugh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
The picture of the knife - a "butter knife", right mushroom head?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Animation2.gif)

I also want to thank everyone for the great links and articles.

Still catching up, and have enjoyed all your comments.

Docs released today look real bad for the Anthonys.

Yes it does.    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 02:55:08 PM
Chloroform Evidence Among New Casey Documents


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Newly-released documents are shedding new light on the evidence prosecutors are using to build their case against Casey Anthony including details about the evidence at the scene where Caylee's body was discovered.

Investigators say they found traces of chloroform that was found on a bottle and a syringe.

There was very damning evidence found at the scene where Caylee's remains were found inside a Disney bag, including a bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade, but when they opened it they found instead a substance containing chloroform and cleaning fluid and a syringe holding a substance containing the potentially deadly chloroform.

Records show the Gatorade bottle they found was partially full of a fluid that was later through testing determined to contain chloroform and cleaning fluid. Inside the bottle was a plastic pouch containing a syringe where investigators also found chloroform.

During earlier investigators, computer searches were found on Casey Anthony’s computer on how to make chloroform months before Caylee disappeared and investigators found a web page about chloroform in Casey's ex-boyfriend's computer, which he says she could have seen, months before investigators say she went online researching chloroform.

Chloroform can be made with common household chemicals and can be deadly in high doses.

Investigators also found something on the clothing of Caylee's favorite doll, a doll her family says she never went anywhere without. The doll was found in Casey's car and they later believe that it was urine they found on the doll's clothing.

Chloroform is a byproduct of human decomposition, but investigators confirm what they consider to be an unusually high concentration of chloroform in Casey’s trunk and the new evidence released Friday could be the reason for that.

MORE...

http://www.wftv.com/news/21539718/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 02:56:16 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/06/Chloroform-was-in-bottle-from-Caylee-site/UPI-94181257535267/

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Chloroform was in bottle from Caylee site
Published: Nov. 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM
ORLANDO, Fla., Nov. 6 (UPI) -- FBI lab technicians said traces of chloroform were inside a bottle and a syringe found near the Florida site where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were found.

The Orlando (Fla.) Sentinel said the discovery of the chloroform inside the syringe and sports drink bottle is detailed in more than 2,100 pages of documents released by the State Attorney's Office Friday.

FBI lab technicians said in a report that a plastic syringe was found inside of a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit." The bag was found inside of the drink bottle, the "Summary of results" report states.

The remains of 2-year-old Caylee were found in Orange County, Fla., in December 2008, months after her mother, Casey Anthony, reported her missing.
Anthony, 23, is facing first-degree murder charges for her daughter's death. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for Anthony if she is convicted.

The Sentinel said authorities were unable to determine a cause of death for the toddler.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
New material released today
November 6, 2009 · 63 Comments

More than 2,100 pages of documents were released this morning by the State Attorney’s Office in the case against Casey Anthony. Among the pages are evidence lists, a handful of photos, and e-mails between OCSO detectives and FBI personnel.

Syringe in bottle found near remains contained traces of chloroform

FBI lab technicians found an unknown liquid and chloroform inside a Cool-Blue Gatorade bottle. The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled “Disposable Syringe Kit” with a needle inside. Traces of chloroform were detected inside the syringe.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
joemochas:  I'm looking at Casey Anthony's dad right now. Weird. Can I slap him for being an asshole who raised an even worse daughter?

http://twitter.com/joemochas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 03:06:50 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
New material released today
November 6, 2009 · 63 Comments

More than 2,100 pages of documents were released this morning by the State Attorney’s Office in the case against Casey Anthony. Among the pages are evidence lists, a handful of photos, and e-mails between OCSO detectives and FBI personnel.

Syringe in bottle found near remains contained traces of chloroform

FBI lab technicians found an unknown liquid and chloroform inside a Cool-Blue Gatorade bottle. The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled “Disposable Syringe Kit” with a needle inside. Traces of chloroform were detected inside the syringe.
(http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/summary-of-conclusions.jpg?w=500&h=363)
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I love Olive's comment on this (on his site above):

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It looks as if there is nothing to dispute any longer, the entomology report says it all. From the garbage bag to under the soil where Caylee’s remains were found, is proof of human decomposition. I can’t wait to hear what the defense will say about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 06, 2009, 03:08:31 PM
joemochas:  I'm looking at Casey Anthony's dad right now. Weird. Can I slap him for being an asshole who raised an even worse daughter?

http://twitter.com/joemochas

I hope like hell he does


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
New material released today
November 6, 2009 · 63 Comments

More than 2,100 pages of documents were released this morning by the State Attorney’s Office in the case against Casey Anthony. Among the pages are evidence lists, a handful of photos, and e-mails between OCSO detectives and FBI personnel.

Syringe in bottle found near remains contained traces of chloroform

FBI lab technicians found an unknown liquid and chloroform inside a Cool-Blue Gatorade bottle. The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled “Disposable Syringe Kit” with a needle inside. Traces of chloroform were detected inside the syringe.
(http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/summary-of-conclusions.jpg?w=500&h=363)
(http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/june-19-22.jpg?w=500&h=160)


What a sad thing- Caylee is now being described as Carrion. Never thought I would see that about a beautiful little child.
I hope KC is shown these documents and photos of the remains as found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details

"Blockbuster new information in the case against Casey," WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Vanessa Echols said at noon today.

Stations were racing through the latest documents released in the case against Casey Anthony. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee.

*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.


*** WFTV's Kathi Belich said the latest documents offered "very damning evidence found at the scene where Caylee's remains were found inside a Disney bag."

She highlighted that chloroform and cleaning fluid were found in a Gatorade bottle and that chloroform was found in a syringe inside the bottle. Belich noted that how-to-make-chloroform searches were found on Anthony's computer.

"Investigators also found something on the clothing of Caylee's favorite doll, a doll her family says she never went anywhere without," Belich said. "The doll was found in Casey's car and they later believe it was urine they found on the doll's clothing."

*** On WKMG-Channel 6, Tony Pipitone noted there were 2,100 pages of evidence and that the station was hustling to get through them. He said he found a reference to testosterone in the bag, but didn't know if it was connected to the case.

"So much forensic science in this," anchor Erick Weber said.

"The defense has its team of experts that just might have a different opinion about the bugs and about other things," Pipitone said.

Weber promised more at 6. The other stations will have updated reports on earlier newscasts.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 06, 2009, 03:20:38 PM
WOW, that is a bombshell, cant wait to see how BOZO and his crew try to spin this one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 06, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Orlando East  (OE), is back on the Orlando Sentinel blog, many believe this poster to be Cindy, lock that b&*#( up right next to her murdering whore of a daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 03:38:53 PM
*SPOILERS*You Didn't See this. Ask Yourself:See what? oOo(Chapter 12)

http://www.youtube.com/v/RExLriKzSmc&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 03:54:56 PM
So for me, the implication is that Casey mixed up some household cleaning liquid like Windex, with Chloroform and put Caylee to sleep like a dog, but worse.

It was painful for her (Caylee), to have that concoction flow into her veins, speed up her heart rate and then slowly fall asleep to death. Casey stood there and watched the whole thing, possibly whispering her hate for her daughter in her ears. Caylee, looking into the eyes of the one person she was suppose to trust.

How did her body react to the poison her mother shot into her? Did she shake and shutter? Did she foam at the mouth? Did it feel like getting kicked in the stomach? Casey sat and watched her daughter die, while thinking about her new beautiful life, perhaps giggling on how her mother would react when she heard the news she had been kidnapped! Little did she know her precious little Caylee was right around the corner! Now she just needed to get rid of the body and decide on what to wear tonight for Tony.

Any of you out there that are donating money to her commissary, read this, YOU are supporting this monster. YOU are siding with her and telling others to give her a chance.... a chance her own daughter never got from her.  Review the evidence, note how Caylee's baby doll had chloroform on it.... she held it as she died. Those who continue to support Casey, I hope when your time comes, you are able to watch this scene unfold for all of eternity with the full understanding YOU stood on Casey's side.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Sorry for the graphics monkeys, but this just makes me sick and the thought of her grandparents, even sicker.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tracy1 on November 06, 2009, 04:13:08 PM
Orlando East  (OE), is back on the Orlando Sentinel blog, many believe this poster to be Cindy, lock that b&*#( up right next to her murdering whore of a daughter.


Can you provide a link? I would LOVE to read these posts but can't find it on my own:)  Thanks in advance
T.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tracy1 on November 06, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
I'm sorry Monkey friends!  I haven't been around lately and want to say a big hello with big hugs to all you great monkeys!!  Hi Brandi dear!  Hugs to all--
And what a bombshell today, huh?  A REAL bombshell! Poor little Caylee.  Just when you think this case holds no more surprises...Surprise!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 06, 2009, 04:18:05 PM
Orlando East  (OE), is back on the Orlando Sentinel blog, many believe this poster to be Cindy, lock that b&*#( up right next to her murdering whore of a daughter.


Can you provide a link? I would LOVE to read these posts but can't find it on my own:)  Thanks in advance
T.

Hope this works, try this link, scroll towards the bottom, you should see the comments.  Be sure to look through the comments from about 2:30 on.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
So for me, the implication is that Casey mixed up some household cleaning liquid like Windex, with Chloroform and put Caylee to sleep like a dog, but worse.

It was painful for her (Caylee), to have that concoction flow into her veins, speed up her heart rate and then slowly fall asleep to death. Casey stood there and watched the whole thing, possibly whispering her hate for her daughter in her ears. Caylee, looking into the eyes of the one person she was suppose to trust.

How did her body react to the poison her mother shot into her? Did she shake and shutter? Did she foam at the mouth? Did it feel like getting kicked in the stomach? Casey sat and watched her daughter die, while thinking about her new beautiful life, perhaps giggling on how her mother would react when she heard the news she had been kidnapped! Little did she know her precious little Caylee was right around the corner! Now she just needed to get rid of the body and decide on what to wear tonight for Tony.

Any of you out there that are donating money to her commissary, read this, YOU are supporting this monster. YOU are siding with her and telling others to give her a chance.... a chance her own daughter never got from her.  Review the evidence, note how Caylee's baby doll had chloroform on it.... she held it as she died. Those who continue to support Casey, I hope when your time comes, you are able to watch this scene unfold for all of eternity with the full understanding YOU stood on Casey's side.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Sorry for the graphics monkeys, but this just makes me sick and the thought of her grandparents, even sicker.

BOO :smt056  I know how you feel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tracy1 on November 06, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
Orlando East  (OE), is back on the Orlando Sentinel blog, many believe this poster to be Cindy, lock that b&*#( up right next to her murdering whore of a daughter.


Can you provide a link? I would LOVE to read these posts but can't find it on my own:)  Thanks in advance
T.


A

Hope this works, try this link, scroll towards the bottom, you should see the comments.  Be sure to look through the comments from about 2:30 on.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story




A big thank you!This link works perfectly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
Orlando East  (OE), is back on the Orlando Sentinel blog, many believe this poster to be Cindy, lock that b&*#( up right next to her murdering whore of a daughter.

Mike.....I saw a couple of posts recetly...yep she is badck and just as nasty and inane as ever ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
I'm sorry Monkey friends!  I haven't been around lately and want to say a big hello with big hugs to all you great monkeys!!  Hi Brandi dear!  Hugs to all--
And what a bombshell today, huh?  A REAL bombshell! Poor little Caylee.  Just when you think this case holds no more surprises...Surprise!

Good to see you, Tracy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
I'm sorry Monkey friends!  I haven't been around lately and want to say a big hello with big hugs to all you great monkeys!!  Hi Brandi dear!  Hugs to all--
And what a bombshell today, huh?  A REAL bombshell! Poor little Caylee.  Just when you think this case holds no more surprises...Surprise!

Hi Tracy1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MONKEY/HOLIDAYS/THANKSGIVING/pilgrim1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 04:28:22 PM
So for me, the implication is that Casey mixed up some household cleaning liquid like Windex, with Chloroform and put Caylee to sleep like a dog, but worse.

It was painful for her (Caylee), to have that concoction flow into her veins, speed up her heart rate and then slowly fall asleep to death. Casey stood there and watched the whole thing, possibly whispering her hate for her daughter in her ears. Caylee, looking into the eyes of the one person she was suppose to trust.

How did her body react to the poison her mother shot into her? Did she shake and shutter? Did she foam at the mouth? Did it feel like getting kicked in the stomach? Casey sat and watched her daughter die, while thinking about her new beautiful life, perhaps giggling on how her mother would react when she heard the news she had been kidnapped! Little did she know her precious little Caylee was right around the corner! Now she just needed to get rid of the body and decide on what to wear tonight for Tony.

Any of you out there that are donating money to her commissary, read this, YOU are supporting this monster. YOU are siding with her and telling others to give her a chance.... a chance her own daughter never got from her.  Review the evidence, note how Caylee's baby doll had chloroform on it.... she held it as she died. Those who continue to support Casey, I hope when your time comes, you are able to watch this scene unfold for all of eternity with the full understanding YOU stood on Casey's side.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Sorry for the graphics monkeys, but this just makes me sick and the thought of her grandparents, even sicker.

Boo all of what you posted was going thru my mind too - reading your words made me shiver thinking about what Caylee's last hours on this earth were like.......It makes me so sad yet so mad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 06, 2009, 04:31:35 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tracy1 on November 06, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
I'm sorry Monkey friends!  I haven't been around lately and want to say a big hello with big hugs to all you great monkeys!!  Hi Brandi dear!  Hugs to all--
And what a bombshell today, huh?  A REAL bombshell! Poor little Caylee.  Just when you think this case holds no more surprises...Surprise!

Hi Tracy1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MONKEY/HOLIDAYS/THANKSGIVING/pilgrim1.gif)


Hi CeCe!! Miss you guys so much. will write in musings about my recent craziness. ..when I get a chance.:) you are the best!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
I am still reading docs...

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf

on page 8, at the bottom, there are arrows fromQ238 to Q240.1.1 with hand written notes...at the top is written 'items from the scene'...at the bottom is written..."Det'n foreign chemicals that KILLED VICTIM

Then on pg9 at the top...item #Q244 (doll) there is another hand written note that reada, ' det'n if residues from chemicals that KILLED VICTIM are present'

I think det'n...might mean determine? what do you think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
While reading through the documents I notice that they use Caylee's name and do not refer to her as just the victim except in a few cases. They gave her more respect than her own family who have referred to her as the kids, that child and lastly IT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 04:50:16 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.
That is exactly what I thought.  And her faux sympathies for the tax payers of Florida.  When have you ever heard Cindy be concerned about anyone but "me and mine"? ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 04:52:41 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 06, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.

Guess I need to clarify, I never said she was definitly OE.  Just listening to the folks that live in Orlando, whoever this person is they really have a scamthony view of the world.

So lets drop the identity of OE and get back to watching the whole damn clan fry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 04:54:08 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.
That is exactly what I thought.  And her faux sympathies for the tax payers of Florida.  When have you ever heard Cindy be concerned about anyone but "me and mine"? ::MonkeyBike::

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 04:54:44 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.

Guess I need to clarify, I never said she was definitly OE.  Just listening to the folks that live in Orlando, whoever this person is they really have a scamthony view of the world.

So lets drop the identity of OE and get back to watching the whole damn clan fry.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 04:56:46 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html
Wow, Trimm, you are good! Thanks, so it is possible for a fingerprint, or even a palm print to appear on a paper towel.  Was there any testing done on the paper towels, do you think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 06, 2009, 05:02:51 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html

Oooooo can't wipe your fingerprints off a paper towel!!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::
Good catch Monk and Trimm!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 05:03:28 PM
I am still reading docs...

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf

on page 8, at the bottom, there are arrows fromQ238 to Q240.1.1 with hand written notes...at the top is written 'items from the scene'...at the bottom is written..."Det'n foreign chemicals that KILLED VICTIM

Then on pg9 at the top...item #Q244 (doll) there is another hand written note that reada, ' det'n if residues from chemicals that KILLED VICTIM are present'

I think det'n...might mean determine? what do you think?

Hi Sunny.   I think you're right.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 05:04:31 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

If you had been following her you would agree it's her...IMO ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html

Oooooo can't wipe your fingerprints off a paper towel!!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::
Good catch Monk and Trimm!!!
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:07:55 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html
Wow, Trimm, you are good! Thanks, so it is possible for a fingerprint, or even a palm print to appear on a paper towel.  Was there any testing done on the paper towels, do you think?


I think they have all kind of stuff we don't know about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 05:11:06 PM
I really don't think Orlando East is mushroom head.  She wouldn't know what a rubicon is.

I gotta agree. OE uses words Cindy probably never heard of. Not to mention, proper grammar.

Maybe OE is someone Cindy hired to do her dirty work for her.

Some speculate OE is one of AL's or Bozo's law students.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html
Wow, Trimm, you are good! Thanks, so it is possible for a fingerprint, or even a palm print to appear on a paper towel.  Was there any testing done on the paper towels, do you think?


I think they have all kind of stuff we don't know about.
And thank goodness for that!  I have never thought I was a spiteful b****, but I can't wait for the evidence to swipe the smug off of Cindy.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Monk...not stupid at all. But I have no idea if fingers prints could be lifted from those paper towels.  I think today shows us that there is a lot we haven't seen...but we will!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 05:18:49 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html

 ::MonkeyDance::  trim...you are the BOMB!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 05:20:36 PM
I am still reading docs...

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf

on page 8, at the bottom, there are arrows fromQ238 to Q240.1.1 with hand written notes...at the top is written 'items from the scene'...at the bottom is written..."Det'n foreign chemicals that KILLED VICTIM

Then on pg9 at the top...item #Q244 (doll) there is another hand written note that reada, ' det'n if residues from chemicals that KILLED VICTIM are present'

I think det'n...might mean determine? what do you think?

Hi Sunny.   I think you're right.     

Hi Sassy....I wouldn't have abbreviated it like that...but that's all I could come up with!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:24:36 PM
Okay, maybe this is stupid, but can paper towels have fingerprints on them? I know they tested the ones in the car, but are they too fragile to maintain or lift a print from?  That would definitively tie Casey to the decomp.  And if (a big IF) they could connect the syringe to Cindy's work, and had Casey's fingerprints on it...Slam Dunk!
Miss Anthony, your last meal is served! 
I just know the SA has to have something that warrants the death penalty.  They are way too professional to operate on a hope and a prayer like the so-called defense. Right?

Check this out.  http://www.scafo.org/Library/170401.html
Wow, Trimm, you are good! Thanks, so it is possible for a fingerprint, or even a palm print to appear on a paper towel.  Was there any testing done on the paper towels, do you think?


I think they have all kind of stuff we don't know about.
And thank goodness for that!  I have never thought I was a spiteful b****, but I can't wait for the evidence to swipe the smug off of Cindy.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Those Anthonys bring out the worst in me.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:35:51 PM
WDBO Local News      
Chloroform, syringe were found near Caylee Anthony remains
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ November 6, 2009 3:29 PM Permalink | Comments (0)

Prosecutors have released hundreds of pages of new documents in the case against Casey Anthony.
The evidence includes dozens of photographs from the woods where Caylee Anthony's remains were found along with DNA analysis results.

The documents show that a Gatorade bottle found near Caylee's remains contained a brown liquid, two cardboard rolls, a syringe and other pieces of debris. FBI test results showed the liquid in the containers was composed of chloroform and other elements. Tests also show traces of chloroform were found in the syringe.

It's not clear how close to Caylee's remains the Gatorade bottle was found, and investigators don't say whether they believe it was dumped there by Casey Anthony
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/chloroform-syringe-were-found.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:37:36 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID1168/images/Caylee_Anthony_Photo_3%288%29.jpg)    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 06, 2009, 05:39:46 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.

I said long ago that bugs/plant growth will tell the tale.... she's  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 06, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID1168/images/Caylee_Anthony_Photo_3%288%29.jpg)    ::MonkeyAngel::
I have to go for awhile, but thank you for reminding me of how beautiful she was. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 06, 2009, 05:41:02 PM
 ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 05:44:50 PM

Those Anthonys bring out the worst in me.   ::MonkeyRoll::

They seem to have the effect on many many people trim...you are in good company! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 05:50:52 PM
Chloroform, Evidence Among New Casey Documents
Posted: 9:21 am EST November 6, 2009
Updated: 5:28 pm EST November 6, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla.-- Over 2,000 pages of new documents were released Friday, including information that Casey Anthony may have had a bottle full of chloroform and a used syringe.

The newly-released documents are shedding new light on the evidence prosecutors are using to build their case against Casey Anthony including details about the evidence at the scene where Caylee's body was discovered.

At the scene where investigators found Caylee Anthony’s remains, they recovered a Disney bag that contained a Cool Blue Gatorade bottle. Even after the six months from time Caylee was last seen alive and the time her remains were found, the bottle contained a liquid that still smelled of household chemicals and a used syringe.

In the documents there was a bombshell of evidence:

Tests from the FBI show chloroform was in the bottle and in the syringe. Eyewitness News had reported previously that there were traces of chloroform found in the trunk of Casey’s car.

Forensic experts told Eyewitness News Chloroform could be a by-product of decomposition, but the level found in the trunk would be too high to be natural from a small child. That may suggest chloroform from another source was in the trunk.

Investigators believe Casey had searched the internet on her computer to find out how to make Chloroform. They found similar search results on her ex-boyfriend's computer several months before discovering those on Casey's computer. Chloroform can be made with common household chemicals and can be deadly in high doses.

Test results from an entomology report (read it) show the trunk also reveal the presence of what are called "coffin flies." An entomologist wrote that those are the most common flies found in human decomposition.

They found signs of flies that typically arrive both early and late in the decaying process.

If Caylee's body was in the trunk of Casey’s car, experts determined it was likely her body was removed sometime between June 19 2008, which is three days after she was last seen alive, and June 27; the day the car was found in an Amscot parking lot.

Investigators also found something on the clothing of Caylee's favorite doll, a doll her family says she never went anywhere without. The doll was found in Casey's car and they later believe that it was urine they found on the doll's clothing.

Most the documents released Friday are detailed reports of FBI examinations of evidence (read it). There are also some photos of evidence among the documents (see them).

Also among the documents are Henkel tape product specs along with a list of suppliers (read it) and a document about the day investigators went to the jail to take photos of Casey's tattoo (read doc | see tattoo photos).

http://www.wftv.com/news/21539718/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 05:55:00 PM
I found this posted on another site:

ben·zo·di·az·e·pine (bnz-d-z-pn, -pn)
n.
Any of a group of psychotropic agents used as antianxiety agents, muscle relaxants, sedatives, and hypnotics.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/benzodiazepine_abuse/article_em.htm

Benzodiazepine Abuse Overview
Benzodiazepines are a type of medication known as tranquilizers. Familiar names include Valium and Xanax. They are some of the most commonly prescribed medications in the United States. When people without prescriptions take these drugs for their sedating effects, then use turns into abuse.

•Doctors may prescribe a benzodiazepine for the following legitimate medical conditions:


◦Anxiety


◦Insomnia


◦Alcohol withdrawal


◦Seizure control


◦Muscle relaxation


◦Inducing amnesia for uncomfortable procedures


◦Given before an anesthetic (such as before surgery)


•Benzodiazepines act on the central nervous system, produce sedation and muscle relaxation, and lower anxiety levels.


•Although more than 2000 different benzodiazepines have been produced, only about 15 are currently FDA-approved in the United States. They are usually classified by how long their effects last.


◦Ultra-short acting - Midazolam (Versed), triazolam (Halcion)


◦Short-acting - Alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan)


◦Long-acting - Chlordiazepoxide (Librium), diazepam (Valium
•Benzodiazepines are commonly abused. This abuse is partially related to the toxic effects that they produce and also to their widespread availability. They can be chronically abused or, as seen more commonly in hospital emergency departments, intentionally or accidentally taken in overdose. Death and serious illness rarely result from benzodiazepine abuse alone; however, they are frequently taken with either alcohol or other medications. The combination of benzodiazepines and alcohol can be dangerous.


•Benzodiazepines have also been used as a "date rape" drug because they can markedly impair and even abolish functions that normally allow a person to resist or even want to resist sexual aggression or assault. In recent years, the detection and conviction of people involved in this has increased dramatically. The drug is usually added to alcohol-containing drinks or even soft drinks in powder or liquid forms and can be hard to taste.
http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/ketamine_factsheet.html

Ketamine

Street terms for Ketamine: jet, super acid, Special "K", green, K, cat Valium1

What does Ketamine look like?

Ketamine comes in a clear liquid and a white or off-white powder form.
How is Ketamine used?

Ketamine is a tranquilizer most commonly used on animals.
The liquid form can be injected, consumed in drinks, or added to smokable materials.
The powder form can be used for injection when dissolved.2
In certain areas, Ketamine is being injected intramuscularly.3
Who uses Ketamine?

Ketamine, along with the other "club drugs," has become popular among teens and young adults at dance clubs and "raves."
How does Ketamine get into the United States?

Marketed as a dissociative general anesthetic for human and veterinary use, the only known source of Ketamine is via diversion of pharmaceutical products.
Recent press reports indicate that a significant number of veterinary clinics are being robbed specifically for their Ketamine stock.
DEA reporting indicates that a major source of Ketamine in the United States is product diverted from pharmacies in Mexico.4
How much does Ketamine cost?

Prices average $20 to $25 per dosage unit.5
What are some consequences of Ketamine use?

Higher doses produce an effect referred to as "K-Hole," an "out of body," or "near-death" experience.6
Use of the drug can cause delirium, amnesia, depression, and long-term memory and cognitive difficulties. Due to its dissociative effect, it is reportedly used as a date-rape drug.7


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 05:58:51 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-insect-chloroform-details.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight insect, chloroform details
posted by halboedeker on Nov 6, 2009 12:36:12 PM
<snipped>
*** WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing focused on "the significant decomposition in Casey's car trunk and on paper towels that the scientists believe were used to wipe up the decompositional fluids."

The information was potentially very important because of the scientific opinion, Kealing said. He highlighted that a scientist believed that the child's remains had been dumped in June or July 2008 because of the insect colonization in the skeletonized remains.

"That would contradict the claims of Casey's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after Casey was locked up," Kealing said.

I said long ago that bugs/plant growth will tell the tale.... she's  ::MonkeyHang::

And it can't happen soon enough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 06:03:37 PM
Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on November 06, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
I am still reading docs...

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf

on page 8, at the bottom, there are arrows fromQ238 to Q240.1.1 with hand written notes...at the top is written 'items from the scene'...at the bottom is written..."Det'n foreign chemicals that KILLED VICTIM

Then on pg9 at the top...item #Q244 (doll) there is another hand written note that reada, ' det'n if residues from chemicals that KILLED VICTIM are present'

I think det'n...might mean determine? what do you think?

NOW THIS IS A BOMBSHELL !! I had never said that before **i think**....im in so much shock, the syringe, "cleaning products"....So Casey's friend was telling the truth...Casey said in her own words...."not chloroform, cleaning products.."...wow! Now im confused about the urine..any help? it was within the crystal lite bottle found in the garage?? why would there be pee in a bottle, if caylee was wearing a diaper?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 06:14:02 PM
Thanks tupelo!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's the funniest thing I have heard all day.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 06:38:13 PM
Wonder when Conway will hit the airwaves, been kind of quiet so far  ::MonkeyRoll::

He's probably too busy trying to find an escape route  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ... And this time in a motorized mobility scooter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 06:41:41 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/BUS.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/BUS.jpg)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/MonkeyGuys/monkeyguy-clapping.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 06:50:56 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's the funniest thing I have heard all day.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

We better watch out or CC (with his Oprah liar, liar, pants on fire) just might create some docs and post them! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's the funniest thing I have heard all day.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

We better watch out or CC (with his Oprah liar, liar, pants on fire) just might create some docs and post them! ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 5:13 pm EST November 6, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New evidence released on Friday in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: theboyzmom on November 06, 2009, 07:05:38 PM
Hi Monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I've been waiting to read the doc release all day, but work kept on interupting. Will start now.  One question: Did the FBI techies finally find the dead squirrel that crawled up into KC's car?  Any docs released on that?  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's the funniest thing I have heard all day.   ::MonkeyJnBox::
omg - How funny - perhaps that was the decomp in the trunk - she put it there to give it a proper burial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:06:23 PM
cut my post off...     ::MonkeyRoll::

That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car.



http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
O/T - now sure where to put this....but I am sure a MOD will put it where it belongs!!  But it shows that JUSTICE IS ALIVE

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/091106_royce_zeigler_baby_grace



Jury Convicts Baby Grace's Stepdad of Murder

Updated: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 5:48 PM CST
Published : Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 10:43 AM CST

GALVESTON, Texas - A Southeast Texas man was convicted Friday of capital murder in the 2007 beating death of his 2-year-old stepdaughter whose battered body was found in a container floating in Galveston Bay.

Jurors deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before finding Royce Clyde Zeigler II guilty in the death of the child known as "Baby Grace." He will receive an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did not seek the death penalty. Jurors also could have convicted Zeigler of a lesser charge of manslaughter.

Zeigler and his wife, Kimberly Trenor, the toddler's mother, were accused of killing her during a discipline session that spun out of control. Trenor was convicted of capital murder in February and also received an automatic life sentence.

continued at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 07:09:29 PM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 06, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
cut my post off...     ::MonkeyRoll::

That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car.



http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html

thanks trim....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
Pictures: Casey Anthony evidence released 11/06/09

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-pictures-casey-anthony-evidence-110609,0,6944489.photogallery

The photo of her doll is heartbreaking and thru the tears comes the anger  ::MonkeyTears::

was the baby doll found with Caylee? I forget....
if so, then Cindy could not have cleaned it up right?
it is heartbreaking to see her baby doll...it is all heartbreaking that this little child is even dead and that her bio bag and her grand parents will not tell the truth of what happened to her...imo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 07:16:56 PM
O/T - now sure where to put this....but I am sure a MOD will put it where it belongs!!  But it shows that JUSTICE IS ALIVE

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/091106_royce_zeigler_baby_grace



Jury Convicts Baby Grace's Stepdad of Murder

Updated: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 5:48 PM CST
Published : Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 10:43 AM CST

GALVESTON, Texas - A Southeast Texas man was convicted Friday of capital murder in the 2007 beating death of his 2-year-old stepdaughter whose battered body was found in a container floating in Galveston Bay.

Jurors deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before finding Royce Clyde Zeigler II guilty in the death of the child known as "Baby Grace." He will receive an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did not seek the death penalty. Jurors also could have convicted Zeigler of a lesser charge of manslaughter.

Zeigler and his wife, Kimberly Trenor, the toddler's mother, were accused of killing her during a discipline session that spun out of control. Trenor was convicted of capital murder in February and also received an automatic life sentence.

continued at link


 ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: I hope that they both rot in jail...or have a slow death from the other inmates...justice!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 07:17:16 PM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Yes indeed. However, I don't think CA will allow KC to have her day in court quietly. I wonder how many times she'll interrupt the proceedings? She just can't help/control herself. I also wonder how many time GA will vomit when the disgusting details are discussed. He better bring a trash can with him!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 06, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
O/T - now sure where to put this....but I am sure a MOD will put it where it belongs!!  But it shows that JUSTICE IS ALIVE

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/091106_royce_zeigler_baby_grace



Jury Convicts Baby Grace's Stepdad of Murder

Updated: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 5:48 PM CST
Published : Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 10:43 AM CST

GALVESTON, Texas - A Southeast Texas man was convicted Friday of capital murder in the 2007 beating death of his 2-year-old stepdaughter whose battered body was found in a container floating in Galveston Bay.

Jurors deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before finding Royce Clyde Zeigler II guilty in the death of the child known as "Baby Grace." He will receive an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did not seek the death penalty. Jurors also could have convicted Zeigler of a lesser charge of manslaughter.

Zeigler and his wife, Kimberly Trenor, the toddler's mother, were accused of killing her during a discipline session that spun out of control. Trenor was convicted of capital murder in February and also received an automatic life sentence.

continued at link


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2297.60     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 07:30:28 PM
O/T - now sure where to put this....but I am sure a MOD will put it where it belongs!!  But it shows that JUSTICE IS ALIVE

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/091106_royce_zeigler_baby_grace



Jury Convicts Baby Grace's Stepdad of Murder

Updated: Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 5:48 PM CST
Published : Friday, 06 Nov 2009, 10:43 AM CST

GALVESTON, Texas - A Southeast Texas man was convicted Friday of capital murder in the 2007 beating death of his 2-year-old stepdaughter whose battered body was found in a container floating in Galveston Bay.

Jurors deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before finding Royce Clyde Zeigler II guilty in the death of the child known as "Baby Grace." He will receive an automatic life sentence because prosecutors did not seek the death penalty. Jurors also could have convicted Zeigler of a lesser charge of manslaughter.

Zeigler and his wife, Kimberly Trenor, the toddler's mother, were accused of killing her during a discipline session that spun out of control. Trenor was convicted of capital murder in February and also received an automatic life sentence.

continued at link


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2297.60     ::MonkeyAngel::

my only question is why did it take the jury so long to convict him? would have taken me all of about 2 seconds once I heard all the evidence...but that is just me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 07:32:46 PM
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Casey Anthony

Wesh Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJX9tyz2dc


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 06, 2009, 07:34:48 PM
Evidence Shows Cholorform Containing Syringe

http://www.youtube.com/v/cdOJ0cxHGps&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 07:41:46 PM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Yes indeed. However, I don't think CA will allow KC to have her day in court quietly. I wonder how many times she'll interrupt the proceedings? She just can't help/control herself. I also wonder how many time GA will vomit when the disgusting details are discussed. He better bring a trash can with him!


No doubt it will be a wild scene, unlike anything anyone has ever seen during a trial in a court of law.  Add their antics to the Defense Team who are legends in their own minds, and it will be unique.  It can't help but be.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 07:57:35 PM
Question: What exactly is the hearing for on December 11th? I believe it's for the stolen checks, but is it actually the start of the trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
Nancy Grace has new stuff on her show tonight! Just to let all know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
Nancy Grace is on, with Bombshell News- and for once it's correct- Chloroform is first thing she mentioned. I noticed she wasn't very impressed with the Anthonys taking "a luxury cruise" by selling personal photos of Caylee.  What were these people thinking?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 06, 2009, 08:07:56 PM
Casey Anthony read entomology report

Today, nearly 2,100 photos and documents were released in the Casey Anthony case. Casey Anthony is expected to stand trial the summer of 2010 for the first degree murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Released in the reports and photos is a number of incriminating evidence. The first photos of chloroform released to the public links Casey Anthony to the searches on her computer for chloroform and neck breaking with evidence found by Caylee Anthony’s remains.
 
The entomology report focuses on evidence that was found within Casey Anthony’s trunk. When the vehicle was impounded, Cindy Anthony and George Anthony remarked that the vehicle smelled as if a dead body had been in it. Cindy Anthony made the remark during her second 911 phone call. Later, Cindy Anthony recounted her statement and said the smell was due to rotting pizza. According to the entomology report released today, the smell was due to decomposing flesh as evidenced by the flies discovered in the trunk of the vehicle.

You may read the entomology report below. 

One of the most startling pieces of information in the entomology report is the mention of ‘coffin flies.’ Known as the scuttle fly, the coffin fly is often seen when there is decaying flesh. The entomology report reveals that the coffin fly was recovered from inside a white plastic trash bag that was inside the trunk of Casey Anthony’s white Pontiac Sunbird vehicle.
 
They also discovered phorid flies, which signifies advanced decomposition. The report estimates that flesh from Caylee Anthony’s body, while in the trunk of the vehicle parked in the hot, Florida sun would have completely deteriorated within one week’s time. The estimation due to the report is that all flesh would have been removed by June 27, 2008. This was based upon the fact that the car was impounded on June 30, 2008.

Casey Anthony read entomology report

Casey Anthony documents: Chloroform near Caylee

Casey Anthony documents released tomorrow

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony file reply to State’s response

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony file motion to dismiss defective indictment

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony file motion to dismiss check charges

Casey Anthony play ‘Tot Mom’ due in December

Casey Anthony Timeline part 1

Casey Anthony Timeline part 2

Casey Anthony Timeline part 3

Casey Anthony Timeline part 4

 George and Cindy Anthony attend funeral for Somer Thompson

Caylee Anthony Memorial Service (full video)

Casey Anthony 48 hours: The Untold Story of Caylee Anthony (full video)
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=345


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 06, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY


(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Caylee-1.jpg)


I haven't been here much today. The news for Caylee was worse, much worse than even I could have imagine. The thought of this precious little soul being injected with chloroform and what she must have gone through, is more than I could take. She wasn't put to sleep with it, she was put to death with it. It wasn't a painless death, a simple falling asleep. I always knew it was possible, but I held onto the hope that Caylee didn't know what was happening to her. Now I see what a real rage killing KC meant for her little baby to have, and that she probably got more satisfaction out of it that anyone can imagine. The duct tape was the over-kill, the making absolutely sure that Caylee would never draw another breath.   ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 08:18:06 PM
So many questions but something came to my mind about this syringe.  It appears to me that the syringe holds a needle which tells me she would have had to inject Caylee with this chloroform concoction she made and or bought, I wonder if a receipt exists showing the purchase of a syringe?  She would have had to have bought it after the fight on the 15th unless she had been doing this for quite sometime as has been speculated.  I am just thinking out loud here but this syringe with a needle really bothers me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:20:12 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:22:12 PM
So many questions but something came to my mind about this syringe.  It appears to me that the syringe holds a needle which tells me she would have had to inject Caylee with this chloroform concoction she made and or bought, I wonder if a receipt exists showing the purchase of a syringe?  She would have had to have bought it after the fight on the 15th unless she had been doing this for quite sometime as has been speculated.  I am just thinking out loud here but this syringe with a needle really bothers me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

^^^ see my above post concerning Lee and the testosterone...although he doesn't look like he works out..maybe George?
also, Cindy is a nurse and works at a clinic I believe...and would have access to syringes...or one of her grand parents could be diabetic and would have syringes at their home...Casey wouldn't be above stealing them from her own grand parents as we well know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:24:18 PM
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY


(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Caylee-1.jpg)


I haven't been here much today. The news for Caylee was worse, much worse than even I could have imagine. The thought of this precious little soul being injected with chloroform and what she must have gone through, is more than I could take. She wasn't put to sleep with it, she was put to death with it. It wasn't a painless death, a simple falling asleep. I always knew it was possible, but I held onto the hope that Caylee didn't know what was happening to her. Now I see what a real rage killing KC meant for her little baby to have, and that she probably got more satisfaction out of it that anyone can imagine. The duct tape was the over-kill, the making absolutely sure that Caylee would never draw another breath.   ::MonkeyTears::

I agree..it was not a painless death...Casey would not have wanted Caylee to go out of this world without some pain imo...I hate her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: anothermonkey on November 06, 2009, 08:24:53 PM
Ugh, this makes me so sick.  Was Caylee killed by an injection of chloroform AND being suffocated to death with tape over her mouth?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY


(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Caylee-1.jpg)


I haven't been here much today. The news for Caylee was worse, much worse than even I could have imagine. The thought of this precious little soul being injected with chloroform and what she must have gone through, is more than I could take. She wasn't put to sleep with it, she was put to death with it. It wasn't a painless death, a simple falling asleep. I always knew it was possible, but I held onto the hope that Caylee didn't know what was happening to her. Now I see what a real rage killing KC meant for her little baby to have, and that she probably got more satisfaction out of it that anyone can imagine. The duct tape was the over-kill, the making absolutely sure that Caylee would never draw another breath.   ::MonkeyTears::
Aww Fanny, I felt that was why you weren't here.  :smt056   I've been thinking of you all afternoon.  Yes this is all horrendous, maybe you could try thinking that what you are reading is truth and justice for Caylee speaking out, and maybe it will be easier for you.  It helps me to think that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 06, 2009, 08:27:20 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 08:27:21 PM
Nancy Grace has new stuff on her show tonight! Just to let all know!

Thanks, sweets!

Welcome to the cage!

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-flag2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 06, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Would chloroform injection be a painful death? I know the implications of the duct tape, that she was smothered by the tape, but I don't know much about chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 06, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
Dont know how George or Sin Sin -can go on living after hearing this-it was one thing to think Caylee died a peaceful death by just going to sleep-this is so horrible KC is a monster and evil evil person.  It is making me sick.
Sorry Monkey forgot to say HI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 06, 2009, 08:35:00 PM
HGH is used for body building and also used for weight loss.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
HGH is used for body building and also used for weight loss.

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
Nancy Grace has new stuff on her show tonight! Just to let all know!

Thanks, sweets!

Welcome to the cage!

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-flag2.gif)

Thanks for the Welcome! I dont know much about how to do any of this, but I think this is a great site!
Trying to figure out how to reply to posts....I hope this one even comes out right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
I love how the grandparents can go on a cruise and enjoy themselves with BLOOD MONEY!  They should really go out and get an honest job like normal hard working people!  They are so  pathetic and are making me sick to my stomach and very angry!   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
welcome sweets...!
you need a face... an identity...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 08:45:38 PM
Would chloroform injection be a painful death? I know the implications of the duct tape, that she was smothered by the tape, but I don't know much about chloroform.

Someone posted earlier what would happen to the body if it was injected with chloroform. It wasn't pretty. I can't even remember who posted it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 08:46:22 PM
Nancy Grace has new stuff on her show tonight! Just to let all know!

Thanks, sweets!

Welcome to the cage!

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/welcome-flag2.gif)

Thanks for the Welcome! I dont know much about how to do any of this, but I think this is a great site!
Trying to figure out how to reply to posts....I hope this one even comes out right!
You did perfectly!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/MonkeyGuys/monkeyguy-clapping.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
Thanks for thinking of me TUPELO.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 06, 2009, 08:47:18 PM
Would chloroform injection be a painful death? I know the implications of the duct tape, that she was smothered by the tape, but I don't know much about chloroform.

Someone posted earlier what would happen to the body if it was injected with chloroform. It wasn't pretty. I can't even remember who posted it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Here is one link talking about injecting chloroform.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ibICAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA677&lpg=PA677&dq=injecting+chloroform&source=bl&ots=DUVaD6GV0O&sig=ZYknpgiIMmGz-Qn4tuUddMDT3n0&hl=en&ei=TVn0SvHKLtXe8AbLiNDzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=injecting%20chloroform&f=false


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 08:48:18 PM
WELCOME SWEETS! You are doing just fine.  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 08:48:55 PM
I love how the grandparents can go on a cruise and enjoy themselves with BLOOD MONEY!  They should really go out and get an honest job like normal hard working people!  They are so  pathetic and are making me sick to my stomach and very angry!   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Today has filled me with two major emotions.

Horror/anger at what happened to Caylee.

Relief that I feel LE has just what they need to convict Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 08:52:09 PM
HGH is used for body building and also used for weight loss.

I can't help but remember the picture taken at Lake Vaj where KC was hanging onto someone very built up bicep. She could have gotten one of her friends syringes. Spindy probably had syringes at home, along with multiple thermometers and other supplies she could "lift" from work. JMO It wouldn't surprise me for George to be so conceited as to want to appear "buff." Look at him preening in the cruise pictures. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Treehouse on November 06, 2009, 08:54:08 PM
Some one in Casey's former circle of friends should know where that syringe came from. Today, at least one of them must have had an Ah ha moment. That person can connect the dots.

-just my strong gut reaction-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
HGH is used for body building and also used for weight loss.

I can't help but remember the picture taken at Lake Vaj where KC was hanging onto someone very built up bicep. She could have gotten one of her friends syringes. Spindy probably had syringes at home, along with multiple thermometers and other supplies she could "lift" from work. JMO It wouldn't surprise me for George to be so conceited as to want to appear "buff." Look at him preening in the cruise pictures. JMO

agreed about George...
I remember seeing a picture of Casey and a friend with spiked up highlighted hair who appeared to be a body builder type...I think it was at one of the parties...no clothes allowed one? can't remember exactly but I remember the dude...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 06, 2009, 08:56:27 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
I love how the grandparents can go on a cruise and enjoy themselves with BLOOD MONEY!  They should really go out and get an honest job like normal hard working people!  They are so  pathetic and are making me sick to my stomach and very angry!   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Today has filled me with two major emotions.

Horror/anger at what happened to Caylee.

I totally agree with you Brandi!

Relief that I feel LE has just what they need to convict Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
I love how the grandparents can go on a cruise and enjoy themselves with BLOOD MONEY!  They should really go out and get an honest job like normal hard working people!  They are so  pathetic and are making me sick to my stomach and very angry!   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Today has filled me with two major emotions.

Horror/anger at what happened to Caylee.

I totally agree with you Brandi!

Relief that I feel LE has just what they need to convict Casey.
Boy did I mess that post up!  I agree with Brandi!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 08:59:14 PM
What is with the testosterone in the syringe? That is really baffling me?!?! The whole syringe evidence is just crazy...  She really wanted to kill this child... She did not want her to go to sleep for the "night" so she could party? She wanted to kill her, and now with this new evidence there is NO question in that! I know, I knew that she killed her but really wanted to believe it was an accident.
I really wanted to think this poor little angel, had a peaceful death, but now with all of this new evidence, there is no way she put her in the trunk, and she fell asleep peacefully. And there is no tellling what else this poor child went through before she passed. How could someone be that jealous of their own child? I really hope this sick, sick beast gets what she disearves!  ::MonkeyHang::

R.I.P. Baby Caylee......... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 08:59:29 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

could very well be!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

You may be very right, but she went to take a shower after Caylee went missing. IIRC


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 09:02:50 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

could very well be!
That has always bothered me too!  I do remember those  no clothes party pictures and some looked like they did some body building!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

I agree.  Do you remember the date of the shower?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 09:05:22 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

You may be very right, but she went to take a shower after Caylee went missing. IIRC

I believe you are right, Fanny. July 3rd was the shower day I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

could very well be!

I always thought she was trying to incriminate Jesse...I really do not think he had anything to do with it though. She was just looking for a scapegoat, and he is very lucky his father was looking out for him! Or who knows he could have gotten mixed in this mess also!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 06, 2009, 09:06:59 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

What is baffling though is if Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th she would have had to have the syringe readily available wouldn't she?.......... I do agree with you on the strange shower visit, why wouldn't she just take a shower at home? I would love to know if her fingerprints are all over that syringe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 09:11:07 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: KCJackie on November 06, 2009, 09:12:32 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

I agree.  Do you remember the date of the shower?

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  July 1st around 11:00 a.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 06, 2009, 09:14:19 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

I noticed that too! looked like a bunch of moles on her lower back to me...not too attractive looking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 09:16:11 PM
Thanks KC. So the "remains" would have already been disposed of, correct? Maybe she left something behind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
WELCOME SWEETS! You are doing just fine.  ::MonkeySlide::

Thanks! Im new to the whole blogging thing. I'm very passionate about these children getting justice for the horrible things that are being done to them...

I have a question, I think I have been doing it right but when you want to reply to someones post with all of the quote's, you just click on the most recent "quote"?  And then reply your new post under all of the stuff that comes up in the box? Or is there an easier way to do it? TIA!!!  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 09:19:44 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

I agree.  Do you remember the date of the shower?

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  July 1st around 11:00 a.m.

Yes, KCJackie!

(Sorry I said July 3.)

Just found it in my notes:
July 1st: Casey gets her nails done. Casey slept on couch at Ricardo’s place. She calls Jesse at 10:15 am to ask if she can take a shower, and she stays over at his place until around 12:00. She met Jesse’s roommate Rick Oswald. She doesn’t get back to Amy’s until 11:08 pm that night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2009, 09:20:02 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 09:20:39 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

Yeah, I noticed that also! Oh and don't leave out, getting free money sent to you by hopeless people, that just don't give a crap about Caylee. geesh....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 09:22:48 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

I noticed that too! looked like a bunch of moles on her lower back to me...not too attractive looking...

It was an absolutely awful picture. My impression was that it was a combination of moles and some other activity going on on her back.  It just looked like to many moles to me and many were very red. I'm hoping it's bed bugs or some stress related rash. I hope she's horrified that it's being shown all across the web.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 09:24:56 PM
WELCOME SWEETS! You are doing just fine.  ::MonkeySlide::

Thanks! Im new to the whole blogging thing. I'm very passionate about these children getting justice for the horrible things that are being done to them...

I have a question, I think I have been doing it right but when you want to reply to someones post with all of the quote's, you just click on the most recent "quote"?  And then reply your new post under all of the stuff that comes up in the box? Or is there an easier way to do it? TIA!!!  ::HelloKitty::

If you want to post to the last post in a stack of quotes, you still go to the top and click on the quote at the top. You will have the stack of quotes. After a while you will learn how to cut  quote stacks, but for now, that will be fine. I hope I answered your question.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 09:27:23 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

I noticed that too! looked like a bunch of moles on her lower back to me...not too attractive looking...

It was an absolutely awful picture. My impression was that it was a combination of moles and some other activity going on on her back.  It just looked like to many moles to me and many were very red. I'm hoping it's bed bugs or some stress related rash. I hope she's horrified that it's being shown all across the web.

I think her back was broken out. We have seen her back before in "Party" pics, and in a two piece bathing suit. I don't think they were all moles. Bad eating and lack of hygene as far as I'm concerned. Plus, I think she sleeps on a plastic covered mattress, and even with a sheet, I am sure it makes her back sweat a lot. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 06, 2009, 09:30:48 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

WFTV had a slide show with a previous doc dump. You could see the back of KC very clearly in those. Definitely zits.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 06, 2009, 09:37:11 PM
WELCOME SWEETS! You are doing just fine.  ::MonkeySlide::

Thanks! Im new to the whole blogging thing. I'm very passionate about these children getting justice for the horrible things that are being done to them...

I have a question, I think I have been doing it right but when you want to reply to someones post with all of the quote's, you just click on the most recent "quote"?  And then reply your new post under all of the stuff that comes up in the box? Or is there an easier way to do it? TIA!!!  ::HelloKitty::

If you want to post to the last post in a stack of quotes, you still go to the top and click on the quote at the top. You will have the stack of quotes. After a while you will learn how to cut  quote stacks, but for now, that will be fine. I hope I answered your question.  ::MonkeyWink::
Thanks! I'm pretty quick when it comes to the computer..It will just take me a min to get adjusted! Thanks so much tho!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 09:43:47 PM
I have followed this case since day one and it is so hard to sit back and watch GA and CA use thier precious granddaughter's murder to make a living.  They made $20 million on licensing fees and go on a cruise and whatever they want.  There dream came true!  No more money problems for them now.  No jobs, etc.  The defense filing bogus motions and spewing stupid lies.  No one in this family is standing up for precious Caylee!  If I was the extended family I would not kiss the A's asses  at all!  I would come out and disown them and state what I feel.  LE and some of us bloggers love Caylee more than her family and I just don't understand that at all.  I'm a grandmother of a 3 1/2 year old precious little girl and if I go without seeing her for over 1 week I'm just beside myself.  But I have the privelage of living in the same town. 
Sorry but this just upsets me so much and it is so hard to read here sometimes.  With the new evidence we saw today I hope that's the nail in Casey's coffin!  I want her to die they same way they suspect little Caylee did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 06, 2009, 09:45:55 PM

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.

 
                                                                                                   

Don't stress Western, Caylee has been talking and the right people are listening. If, for some reason, KC doesn't get the death penalty, she will suffer, no doubt by the hands of some prison residents. There is no way she is getting out of this alive. Someone will get her. Years from now we will visit this Caylee thread and remark on how bad the years have treated her and why it took prisoners so long to get to her. Justice will be done!!

I'm still way back trying to catch up in here. So much evidence, so much to process. Hard to read about the way that sweet child died. It's sick and twisted beyond the imagination. I will take that advice about not stressing. Caylee deserves justice, she deserved so much more.The victory  will be when kc has to turn and leave the courtroom for her lifes sentence, whether it's the DP or LWOP.  All this really does almost make me physically sick, Kc is a monster and her family is amoral.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:03:31 PM
With all the evidence that's been released to date, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to read that they don't have KC's prints on the syringe or the baggie or the bottle, but that there is a print of whoever she lifted it from, and the defense will try their spin of reasonable doubt until our heads explode. I just want one piece of evidence that clearly, absolutely, 100 %  links her! Just one! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 06, 2009, 10:06:41 PM

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.

 
                                                                                                   

Don't stress Western, Caylee has been talking and the right people are listening. If, for some reason, KC doesn't get the death penalty, she will suffer, no doubt by the hands of some prison residents. There is no way she is getting out of this alive. Someone will get her. Years from now we will visit this Caylee thread and remark on how bad the years have treated her and why it took prisoners so long to get to her. Justice will be done!!

I'm still way back trying to catch up in here. So much evidence, so much to process. Hard to read about the way that sweet child died. It's sick and twisted beyond the imagination. I will take that advice about not stressing. Caylee deserves justice, she deserved so much more.The victory  will be when kc has to turn and leave the courtroom for her lifes sentence, whether it's the DP or LWOP.  All this really does almost make me physically sick, Kc is a monster and her family is amoral.

I'll take that a step further.

Her family knows right from wrong. They are IMMORAL, IMO.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 06, 2009, 10:12:29 PM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 10:16:00 PM

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.

 
                                                                                                   

Don't stress Western, Caylee has been talking and the right people are listening. If, for some reason, KC doesn't get the death penalty, she will suffer, no doubt by the hands of some prison residents. There is no way she is getting out of this alive. Someone will get her. Years from now we will visit this Caylee thread and remark on how bad the years have treated her and why it took prisoners so long to get to her. Justice will be done!!

I'm still way back trying to catch up in here. So much evidence, so much to process. Hard to read about the way that sweet child died. It's sick and twisted beyond the imagination. I will take that advice about not stressing. Caylee deserves justice, she deserved so much more.The victory  will be when kc has to turn and leave the courtroom for her lifes sentence, whether it's the DP or LWOP.  All this really does almost make me physically sick, Kc is a monster and her family is amoral.

I'll take that a step further.

Her family knows right from wrong. They are IMMORAL, IMO.



I agree and whomever performed their "re-basptisms" should consider another profession.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:18:38 PM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   

I agree and every single one of them deserve it too!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 06, 2009, 10:23:04 PM
I hope those Caylee tattoos they got on their cruise will burn a hole through their skin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 06, 2009, 10:23:15 PM
With all the evidence that's been released to date, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to read that they don't have KC's prints on the syringe or the baggie or the bottle, but that there is a print of whoever she lifted it from, and the defense will try their spin of reasonable doubt until our heads explode. I just want one piece of evidence that clearly, absolutely, 100 %  links her! Just one! 

I know how you feel. I just remind myself that we still haven't received all of the evidence... and I think that's a strategy of the defense. I really do believe she's going to be found guilty. ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 06, 2009, 10:24:33 PM

Everybody repeat after me-  Coffin Flies in my Trunk.  Aint no Scientific Junk.

How ironic and fitting that Coffin Flies will put KC into her coffin.
God Bless you Caylee, your voice is being heard loud and clear today.
I can't tell you when I have EVER felt so angry as when I read that paper towels used to mop up Caylee's decomposing body were found in KC's trunk.  She could not even treat her corpse with respect. If she doesn't get the death sentence there is NO justice. In fact I would like to see her die of suffocation, exactly the same as Caylee- a panic filled slow death.

 
                                                                                                   

Don't stress Western, Caylee has been talking and the right people are listening. If, for some reason, KC doesn't get the death penalty, she will suffer, no doubt by the hands of some prison residents. There is no way she is getting out of this alive. Someone will get her. Years from now we will visit this Caylee thread and remark on how bad the years have treated her and why it took prisoners so long to get to her. Justice will be done!!

I'm still way back trying to catch up in here. So much evidence, so much to process. Hard to read about the way that sweet child died. It's sick and twisted beyond the imagination. I will take that advice about not stressing. Caylee deserves justice, she deserved so much more.The victory  will be when kc has to turn and leave the courtroom for her lifes sentence, whether it's the DP or LWOP.  All this really does almost make me physically sick, Kc is a monster and her family is amoral.

I'll take that a step further.

Her family knows right from wrong. They are IMMORAL, IMO.



 Good point BRANDI, you're spot on.          ::MonkeyAngel:: for Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 06, 2009, 10:38:18 PM
With all the evidence that's been released to date, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to read that they don't have KC's prints on the syringe or the baggie or the bottle, but that there is a print of whoever she lifted it from, and the defense will try their spin of reasonable doubt until our heads explode. I just want one piece of evidence that clearly, absolutely, 100 %  links her! Just one! 

I know how you feel. I just remind myself that we still haven't received all of the evidence... and I think that's a strategy of the defense. I really do believe she's going to be found guilty. ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::

I believe she will too, but I will admit to having my days where sometimes I doubt it. I just hate this "in between" time, and I can't wait for the day Caylee gets her justice!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Txsflame on November 06, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
I told my family today if Casey Anthony doesnt get the DP for this..Then NO ONE ever again should get it!!!!  Bring her to Texas, we'll take care of her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 06, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
I told my family today if Casey Anthony doesnt get the DP for this..Then NO ONE ever again should get it!!!!  Bring her to Texas, we'll take care of her.


No worries there Txsflame! We're getting pretty sick of baby killers down here in Florida and so far if they are found guilty, they'll get the death penalty. And Casey deserves it. Too bad we got rid of the chair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 10:56:08 PM
I haven't read the new information as my computer is so slow so could somone answer a question for me?   On Nancy Grace it said there was duct tape with hair.  Do the documents say who's hair?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 06, 2009, 11:03:31 PM
Hi Monkeys....
I hope you remember me  ::MonkeyDevil2::
I think that Casey thought that chloroform preserve the bodies a little bit longer  ..that is the reason for her she change the dates that she last seen Caylee.... maybe she thought that her plan will work and caylee will show up less days to be dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: leslee on November 06, 2009, 11:03:51 PM
I haven't read the new information as my computer is so slow so could somone answer a question for me?   On Nancy Grace it said there was duct tape with hair.  Do the documents say who's hair?

The DT with hair actually came out awhile ago, Caylees hair was matted to the duct tape :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 06, 2009, 11:06:59 PM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   

Speaking of LP -  did anyone understand his comment tonight about Tracy?    He said something about Tracey being all upset all day (oh boo hoo to Tracy for being so stupid in the first place) and then something about maybe there's something she didn't tell Nick Savage - that something seems to be missing.....    I don't understand what he is trying to get at.    Does anyone have any ideas?     I think sometimes LP just needs to be quiet when he doesn't know what he's talking about.   JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 06, 2009, 11:07:07 PM
I told my family today if Casey Anthony doesnt get the DP for this..Then NO ONE ever again should get it!!!!  Bring her to Texas, we'll take care of her.
I just saw pictures of the bottle with chloroform


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 11:07:20 PM
I haven't read the new information as my computer is so slow so could somone answer a question for me?   On Nancy Grace it said there was duct tape with hair.  Do the documents say who's hair?

The DT with hair actually came out awhile ago, Caylees hair was matted to the duct tape :(
Thank you!  I had already heard that and thought this was new information. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 11:14:17 PM
Did anyone notice on Nancy Grace the pic of her tatoo that she looked like she had gained some weight and her back looked all broke out with zits!  I guess when you sit on your fanny and eat all day free of charge you get fatter.  LOL

I noticed that too! looked like a bunch of moles on her lower back to me...not too attractive looking...

It was an absolutely awful picture. My impression was that it was a combination of moles and some other activity going on on her back.  It just looked like to many moles to me and many were very red. I'm hoping it's bed bugs or some stress related rash. I hope she's horrified that it's being shown all across the web.

It looked like old acne/cyst scars to me.  And then of course ... the moles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: flutterby42 on November 06, 2009, 11:31:43 PM
OK, don't want to be the bearer of any bad news, but something about the entomology report bothers me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
The entomologist phrases his findings with the assumption that the remains were in a car trunk. Now, I believe they were, but the defense is going to ask if it is possible that the remains were simply in a sealed or enclosed area, rather than SPECIFICALLY a car trunk. Possible bias on the part of the scientist. Never a good idea. ALWAYS phrase findings in a neutral, comprehensive manner. Because the evidence doesn't have an opinion, it just is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 06, 2009, 11:42:17 PM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!
That makes sense, Cookie. That's a real possibility. It could have been anyone that was trying to "pump up" that Casey had contact with, but Lee's a good guess.

The trip to Jesse's house for a 'shower' has always bothered me, she went into the bathroom on a fishing trip, either to leave something incriminating, or take something she KNEW would be there - so I would not be surprised to find one of the Grunds were taking it for muscle building etc.

You may be very right, but she went to take a shower after Caylee went missing. IIRC

After watching this tragic nightmare unfold all these many months, it's difficult not to conclude that everything Casey does is done with a self-serving ulterior motive.  Now we see from the depositions/Dominic Casey-Cindy e-mails just how much acrimony the Anthonys had for Jesse & his family.  Casey had something up her sleeve which she hoped would harm Jesse, IMO, or she wouldn't have dropped in on him out of the blue.  So curious to know what it was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 06, 2009, 11:49:19 PM
Good night all!   I will probably be back on tomorrow to see what you all have to say!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 06, 2009, 11:51:19 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 06, 2009, 11:53:23 PM
Quick thought before it's gone...I'm wondering if the cadaver dogs hit in the backyard because Casey/Cindy/George dumped water from the Wet-Dry Vac when one or more of them attempted to clean the trunk. Back to reading.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 06, 2009, 11:55:43 PM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

Woo-hoo for the FBI!  They deserve medals for all they have to see in the process of testing.  KUDOS to the FBI and MEs!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 07, 2009, 12:11:03 AM
Quick thought before it's gone...I'm wondering if the cadaver dogs hit in the backyard because Casey/Cindy/George dumped water from the Wet-Dry Vac when one or more of them attempted to clean the trunk. Back to reading.

Hi ISpy!

Good thought. IMO very possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 07, 2009, 12:11:40 AM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   

Speaking of LP -  did anyone understand his comment tonight about Tracy?    He said something about Tracey being all upset all day (oh boo hoo to Tracy for being so stupid in the first place) and then something about maybe there's something she didn't tell Nick Savage - that something seems to be missing.....    I don't understand what he is trying to get at.    Does anyone have any ideas?     I think sometimes LP just needs to be quiet when he doesn't know what he's talking about.   JMO.
Sassycat....yeah I was a little confused as to what exactly LP was getting at.  It sounded like Tracy was KC new best friend and she was upset finding out her new best friend was a killer...just like all of Casey friends did.  Listening to Tracy's interviews, I felt she was holding back something; that she was freely giving info especially with all her nervous giggling (and I though Lee was bad).  Why is it when people get around the A's they get sucked in to them?  Does Cindy do voodo or something??  Seriously, I just don't get it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 12:31:59 AM
Quick thought before it's gone...I'm wondering if the cadaver dogs hit in the backyard because Casey/Cindy/George dumped water from the Wet-Dry Vac when one or more of them attempted to clean the trunk. Back to reading.

Oooh ... great thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 12:34:49 AM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

Woo-hoo for the FBI!  They deserve medals for all they have to see in the process of testing.  KUDOS to the FBI and MEs!

I am mightily impressed with all of them.   Heros all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 12:36:40 AM
** heroes **


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!

Cookie- Not to smear anyone's rep here, but I wonder if Ricardo, Jesse, or any of the Lake Vaj brothers were injecting testosterone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: TURBOTHINK on November 07, 2009, 12:55:26 AM

Can someone give the shooter on the loose directions to the Anthony house please?!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: TURBOTHINK on November 07, 2009, 12:57:14 AM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

Woo-hoo for the FBI!  They deserve medals for all they have to see in the process of testing.  KUDOS to the FBI and MEs!

Remember the blond guy? He always looked to me like he used steroids - There is always the possibility that Lee was using them and stupid got the concoctions mixed up together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 01:09:02 AM
Hi, Brandi! Been reading your posts too.   ::MonkeyCool::

O.k., I have to confess.  I was busy all day and looked forward to getting here this evening to read the doc dump...Waiting anxiously (dare I say excitedly) for more evidence that I was sure would come.  Now, I'm wishing I never had.  Fanny- I can totally relate.  I knew Casey was evil, but this far exceeded my expectations.  Truthfully, I consciously made myself ignore the little warnings I was getting that Caylee's death was a very savage event.  I just wasn't willing to go there...still not.  My prayer is that what was done in the dark is brought into the light to be clearly seen and fully known. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 07, 2009, 01:18:04 AM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!

Cookie- Not to smear anyone's rep here, but I wonder if Ricardo, Jesse, or any of the Lake Vaj brothers were injecting testosterone.
I think we might find out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 01:26:26 AM
O.k.,thinking this through a little...bear with me.  Three things come to mind:  the syringe needle may have Caylee's DNA on it;  the Disposable Syringe Kit packaging may have traceable bar code and manufacturing markings (as well as the Gatorade bottle); and thinking the syringe cap/packaging/bottle lid may have had prints.

Well, barely keeping my eyes open here.  So, I'm calling it a night.  Resting in the fact that God loved Caylee so much more than we ever can.  He's capable of seeing this thing through for Caylee.  Hope you all rest well.  God bless you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 07, 2009, 01:56:53 AM
OK, don't want to be the bearer of any bad news, but something about the entomology report bothers me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
The entomologist phrases his findings with the assumption that the remains were in a car trunk. Now, I believe they were, but the defense is going to ask if it is possible that the remains were simply in a sealed or enclosed area, rather than SPECIFICALLY a car trunk. Possible bias on the part of the scientist. Never a good idea. ALWAYS phrase findings in a neutral, comprehensive manner. Because the evidence doesn't have an opinion, it just is.

With all due respect I do not agree, there is evidence of decomposition in the trunk, there are paper towels with grave wax and dead coffin flies only found on decomposing flesh, the car still smells of decomposition to this day, and a plastic bag from the trunk also had maggots inside, Blow flies had also visited at some point. All this evidence came directly and specifically from the car trunk.

There is plenty of evidence of what was in the trunk, this was not an assumption, as in assuming facts not in evidence. the bag with the evidence came from the trunk and the facts are evident. So, you are not the bearer of bad news IMHO

Possible bias? no I don't agree, the findings were presented in a completely forthright and unbiased manner. As you say the evidence "just is" and it is damning. 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 07, 2009, 02:41:56 AM

Here's a thought about the trace of testosterone. Some menopausal drugs actually have small amounts of testosterone in them. Although I've never heard of anyone needing to inject themselves for menopausal symptoms, if there was ever a person who probably could and would it would be CA.
Just thinking outside the box.
KC would've either had to have bought the syringe kit, stolen it from one of friends (who were taking steroids) or someone gave it to her. If they gave it to her, have they spoken up yet??
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 07, 2009, 02:57:19 AM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Yes indeed. However, I don't think CA will allow KC to have her day in court quietly. I wonder how many times she'll interrupt the proceedings? She just can't help/control herself. I also wonder how many time GA will vomit when the disgusting details are discussed. He better bring a trash can with him!

 My guess is 5 and half hours and then I hope it's DP.

Bozo should've  gotten his little pookums to take a plea, long before all this came out but noooooooooooo I really think in his arrogance and ignorance he thought he could stutter and stammer his way to aquital, after all he is the first hispanic atty. to handle a case of this magnitude ( :smt112) and I must say I'm eagerly waiting to sit back and watch
Mt. Saint Spindy blow her top during trial.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:34:14 AM
Quick thought before it's gone...I'm wondering if the cadaver dogs hit in the backyard because Casey/Cindy/George dumped water from the Wet-Dry Vac when one or more of them attempted to clean the trunk. Back to reading.

Oooohhhh! Great question!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:35:19 AM

The FBI reports released today also show a doll recovered from Casey Anthony's white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT had "faint yellowish stains" on the front and back of its white clothing. The June lab tests showed slight traces of chloroform residue on the doll, according to Rickenbach.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story

Woo-hoo for the FBI!  They deserve medals for all they have to see in the process of testing.  KUDOS to the FBI and MEs!

Traces...even after Cindy did her clean-up on the doll!  Yes!!

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:38:38 AM
Chloroform...at the scene where the remains were found and on the doll and in the trunk and search on the computer.  Oh..wait...didn't Cindy say that she was the one making the computer search for chlorform.

Uh-o...isn't Cindy a nurse...sure to have syringes lying around somewhere...hmmmm

Careful Cindy...one could look at you with more than a little suspicion.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:42:25 AM
I believe KC could have gotten a syringe at a number of places:  mom's a nurse; maybe a boyfriend or a male friend could be taking body building drugs (testostrone).

What an evil person KC is.

You know what?  As horrible as it sounds...neck breaking would have been quick and an immediate death.

KC researched that...must have been too painless for her.

With today's doc release and the prior knowledge of duct tape across the mouth and nose, it sure seems to me that KC wanted a painful death to savor.  Dispicable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:45:00 AM
Another thought:  the syringe...could the FBI have found finger prints on the syringe or the cap that was put over the needle?

I think KC put the cap back over the needle; put the syringe back into the plastic cover (so as to make sure all the little parts were disposed of when she put the syringe into the plastic bottle.

I'm lost for words to describe what a terrible person KC really is.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:49:31 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

Could KC have put the duct tape over Caylee's mouth and nose and used the syringe to inject the chloroform into her mouth through the duct tape?  With the nose and mouth covered, Caylee wouldn't be able to breath and would have swallowed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:56:12 AM
O.k.,thinking this through a little...bear with me.  Three things come to mind:  the syringe needle may have Caylee's DNA on it;  the Disposable Syringe Kit packaging may have traceable bar code and manufacturing markings (as well as the Gatorade bottle); and thinking the syringe cap/packaging/bottle lid may have had prints.

Well, barely keeping my eyes open here.  So, I'm calling it a night.  Resting in the fact that God loved Caylee so much more than we ever can.  He's capable of seeing this thing through for Caylee.  Hope you all rest well.  God bless you!

Well...wouldn't it be something if the syringe could be traced to Cindy's workplace; meaning that Cindy probably has/had syringes in her home.  It could turn out that KC could have used one of Cindy's syringes to kill Caylee.  Oh my...it's all so much worse now!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Persia on November 07, 2009, 04:09:06 AM
I believe KC could have gotten a syringe at a number of places:  mom's a nurse; maybe a boyfriend or a male friend could be taking body building drugs (testostrone).

Yes, there are a number of sources for the syringe and the testosterone.  It's not only used for body building.  It can be used to boost libido (sex drive) in both men and women (Cindy and/or George?); it has been found to improve cognitive function in aging folks with senility or Alzheimer's (Cindy's Dad?); it can be used for weight loss (Cindy?); It improves bone mass in old folks with osteoporosis (Cindy's Mom or Dad?)

Another thought/question I have...do we really think Casey is skilled enough to inject Caylee with chloroform in a way that would be lethal?  She would need to be able to hit a vein which is not easy in a squirming two-year-old.  Chloroform is an organic solvent and the inhaled vapors are how it is used for anesthetic.  If you just inject it into the skin or muscle, it would probably only make a really painful ulcer (imagine injecting gasoline,) destroying some flesh - but not kill.  If she did try to inject it into skin or muscle, I think Caylee would scream and maybe Casey put the duct tape on to quiet her anguished cries(?) but the duct tape asphyxiated her?  This scenario would be extremely difficult to explain to either her parents or EMS.

Or, maybe the syringe wasn't used for "injecting" the chloroform at all.  If you read the instructions for making chloroform at home, you'll see that it settles out at the bottom of a container when chilled ethanol or acetone and chlorine are mixed.  It makes like a "bubble" of chloroform at the bottom and this bubble must be collected and isolated from the other ingredients.  A syringe would be helpful to retrieve the chloroform from the bottom of the container where it could then be transferred to another container for use on a rag (for example) to administer the vapors.  Casey probably wouldn't just leave a syringe and the evidence of chloroform manufacture lying around the house, so she stuffed it into the Disney bag and when she panicked, she didn't think to dispose of it separately from Caylee's body.

Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 07:31:54 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 07:37:39 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 07, 2009, 07:39:08 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 07:40:14 AM
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 07, 2009, 07:51:57 AM
I had an idea.  We've all speculated on what story the credit card statements could tell--what if a purchase of a syringe and gatorade were on a receipt?  Maybe this is the smoking gun, (or syringe.) I remember buying a syringe (no needle) to give my twins premeasured doses of cough medicine when they were little.  I know it's a lot of trouble to check, but what if on one of the Target trips, she bought something like that?  Maybe not the Amy related ones but at a different time.  I know it's a long shot, but like others, I want the Casey connection solid and irrefutable.  Lee gave receipts to JB, but what if they didn't give all the receipts to LE?  I absolutely think Casey is bold and arrogant enough to save something like that, thinking that no one could possibly be smart enough to put two and two together. 
On a side note, I'm trying so hard not to think about Caylee's suffering.  My heart is sorely shattered by this latest info, and I am sure my Monkey friends are feeling this way also.  The only saving grace is realizing that this is only another step in the journey to Justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: carolb on November 07, 2009, 07:56:05 AM
I believe KC could have gotten a syringe at a number of places:  mom's a nurse; maybe a boyfriend or a male friend could be taking body building drugs (testostrone).

Yes, there are a number of sources for the syringe and the testosterone.  It's not only used for body building.  It can be used to boost libido (sex drive) in both men and women (Cindy and/or George?); it has been found to improve cognitive function in aging folks with senility or Alzheimer's (Cindy's Dad?); it can be used for weight loss (Cindy?); It improves bone mass in old folks with osteoporosis (Cindy's Mom or Dad?)

Another thought/question I have...do we really think Casey is skilled enough to inject Caylee with chloroform in a way that would be lethal?  She would need to be able to hit a vein which is not easy in a squirming two-year-old.  Chloroform is an organic solvent and the inhaled vapors are how it is used for anesthetic.  If you just inject it into the skin or muscle, it would probably only make a really painful ulcer (imagine injecting gasoline,) destroying some flesh - but not kill.  If she did try to inject it into skin or muscle, I think Caylee would scream and maybe Casey put the duct tape on to quiet her anguished cries(?) but the duct tape asphyxiated her?  This scenario would be extremely difficult to explain to either her parents or EMS.

Or, maybe the syringe wasn't used for "injecting" the chloroform at all.  If you read the instructions for making chloroform at home, you'll see that it settles out at the bottom of a container when chilled ethanol or acetone and chlorine are mixed.  It makes like a "bubble" of chloroform at the bottom and this bubble must be collected and isolated from the other ingredients.  A syringe would be helpful to retrieve the chloroform from the bottom of the container where it could then be transferred to another container for use on a rag (for example) to administer the vapors.  Casey probably wouldn't just leave a syringe and the evidence of chloroform manufacture lying around the house, so she stuffed it into the Disney bag and when she panicked, she didn't think to dispose of it separately from Caylee's body.

Any thoughts?

Your post makes a lot of sense. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 07, 2009, 08:01:04 AM
Hi Monkeys, I am way behind on all of this. I've only read a little bit on here about all the info that was released yesterday. I see the talk about the syaringe needle. My question is did it actually say needle, or just syaringe? I ask because I know they don't always necessarily have needles. When my youngest was born he needed to be put on antibiotics right away and we were given syaringes but they were not needles, just little "tubes" (for lack of a better word) and we just put the medicine directly into his mouth for him to swallow. So, I was just wondering if it were actually a needle that they found in the syaringe, is that what the docs said?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 07, 2009, 08:05:17 AM
I had an idea.  We've all speculated on what story the credit card statements could tell--what if a purchase of a syringe and gatorade were on a receipt?  Maybe this is the smoking gun, (or syringe.) I remember buying a syringe (no needle) to give my twins premeasured doses of cough medicine when they were little.  I know it's a lot of trouble to check, but what if on one of the Target trips, she bought something like that?  Maybe not the Amy related ones but at a different time.  I know it's a long shot, but like others, I want the Casey connection solid and irrefutable.  Lee gave receipts to JB, but what if they didn't give all the receipts to LE?  I absolutely think Casey is bold and arrogant enough to save something like that, thinking that no one could possibly be smart enough to put two and two together. 
On a side note, I'm trying so hard not to think about Caylee's suffering.  My heart is sorely shattered by this latest info, and I am sure my Monkey friends are feeling this way also.  The only saving grace is realizing that this is only another step in the journey to Justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 07, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
Hi Monkeys, I am way behind on all of this. I've only read a little bit on here about all the info that was released yesterday. I see the talk about the syaringe needle. My question is did it actually say needle, or just syaringe? I ask because I know they don't always necessarily have needles. When my youngest was born he needed to be put on antibiotics right away and we were given syaringes but they were not needles, just little "tubes" (for lack of a better word) and we just put the medicine directly into his mouth for him to swallow. So, I was just wondering if it were actually a needle that they found in the syaringe, is that what the docs said?
Hi QM I hope you are doing ok. I have looked at the photo over and over and it appears there is a needle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 07, 2009, 08:11:20 AM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Yes indeed. However, I don't think CA will allow KC to have her day in court quietly. I wonder how many times she'll interrupt the proceedings? She just can't help/control herself. I also wonder how many time GA will vomit when the disgusting details are discussed. He better bring a trash can with him!

 My guess is 5 and half hours and then I hope it's DP.

Bozo should've  gotten his little pookums to take a plea, long before all this came out but noooooooooooo I really think in his arrogance and ignorance he thought he could stutter and stammer his way to aquital, after all he is the first hispanic atty. to handle a case of this magnitude ( :smt112) and I must say I'm eagerly waiting to sit back and watch
Mt. Saint Spindy blow her top during trial.
                                                           ::MonkeyDevil2::

I'm thinking other Hispanic lawyers might wish to disown him after his performance, if what we have seen so far is any indication of how he will do in court..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 07, 2009, 08:14:52 AM
Hi Monkeys, I am way behind on all of this. I've only read a little bit on here about all the info that was released yesterday. I see the talk about the syaringe needle. My question is did it actually say needle, or just syaringe? I ask because I know they don't always necessarily have needles. When my youngest was born he needed to be put on antibiotics right away and we were given syaringes but they were not needles, just little "tubes" (for lack of a better word) and we just put the medicine directly into his mouth for him to swallow. So, I was just wondering if it were actually a needle that they found in the syaringe, is that what the docs said?
Hi QM I hope you are doing ok. I have looked at the photo over and over and it appears there is a needle.
Aww, thanks mission, I'm doing ok right now. See, I didn't even know there were photos. I guess I should look at some of the actual docs. Just a little impatient now I guess. The talk of the syaringe piqued my interest I guess cause there was so much talk about it! Do you know if anyone posted the pic here in SM, would I be able to go back and find it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 07, 2009, 08:18:18 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 07, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Bingo! DepoProvera is medroxyprogesterone. I think this is the most likely answer. Cindy would be just that controlling to take charge of Casey's birth control.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 08:29:21 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Bingo! DepoProvera is medroxyprogesterone. I think this is the most likely answer. Cindy would be just that controlling to take charge of Casey's birth control.


It might also explain why she is so broken out all over her back with acne.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 08:35:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

11/06/09 Bug Report – Entomology
November 6th, 2009



I saw this on another site, apparently they didn't have enough to sample the blood for DNA on the napkins. Did anyone else see more on this?

The following items tested positive (chemically) for blood.

Q81 - Clothing from ME's office
Q82 - Blanket
Q84 - Laundry bag
Q103 - Blanket

Q248.1-Q248.4 ....NAPKINS FROM THE VEHICLE.

Page 1378

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html

How did blood get on all these items AND on the napkins from the vehicle trunk???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 07, 2009, 08:51:13 AM
Hi Monkeys, I am way behind on all of this. I've only read a little bit on here about all the info that was released yesterday. I see the talk about the syaringe needle. My question is did it actually say needle, or just syaringe? I ask because I know they don't always necessarily have needles. When my youngest was born he needed to be put on antibiotics right away and we were given syaringes but they were not needles, just little "tubes" (for lack of a better word) and we just put the medicine directly into his mouth for him to swallow. So, I was just wondering if it were actually a needle that they found in the syaringe, is that what the docs said?
Hi QM I hope you are doing ok. I have looked at the photo over and over and it appears there is a needle.
Aww, thanks mission, I'm doing ok right now. See, I didn't even know there were photos. I guess I should look at some of the actual docs. Just a little impatient now I guess. The talk of the syaringe piqued my interest I guess cause there was so much talk about it! Do you know if anyone posted the pic here in SM, would I be able to go back and find it?

Hang in there QM I am thinking about you.  Here is a link that shows the photo of the syringe.  ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 07, 2009, 08:52:36 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Priceless would be an understatement - depo may be the reason!  Wonder what size needle is used for these shots?  Hmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 07, 2009, 08:55:42 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

11/06/09 Bug Report – Entomology
November 6th, 2009



I saw this on another site, apparently they didn't have enough to sample the blood for DNA on the napkins. Did anyone else see more on this?

The following items tested positive (chemically) for blood.

Q81 - Clothing from ME's office
Q82 - Blanket
Q84 - Laundry bag
Q103 - Blanket

Q248.1-Q248.4 ....NAPKINS FROM THE VEHICLE.

Page 1378

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html

How did blood get on all these items AND on the napkins from the vehicle trunk???


 ::MonkeyShocked:: Wow that is a good question. 

Gotta run monkeys I hope you all have a good day - I will tune in later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 08:56:14 AM
1ml/150mg is what I saw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: theboyzmom on November 07, 2009, 09:12:53 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Bingo! DepoProvera is medroxyprogesterone. I think this is the most likely answer. Cindy would be just that controlling to take charge of Casey's birth control.

Wow - good catch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 07, 2009, 09:15:59 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Priceless would be an understatement - depo may be the reason!  Wonder what size needle is used for these shots?  Hmmmmm
Depo is given IM and the needle is usually a one to one and one half inch needle. The syringe most commonly used is 3 ccs but the medication itself is 1 cc.I am a nurse and gave these injections to a friend of mine for 5 years. She got the script from her doctor, the med from the pharmacy and I gave the injections every 3 months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 09:45:22 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 07, 2009, 09:49:20 AM
The picture of the syringe definitely had the needle attached to it.  You can see it under the cap.  To me (I'm not a nurse), but that needle looks a little long like an injection where you get the shot in the muscle.  Diabetic needles (and I underwent fertility treatments)...those needles are tiny so you can give them to yourself in the stomach.  Would steroid shots go into the muscle?  I would think so.  Any professional opinions??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: janetruth on November 07, 2009, 09:53:59 AM
I told my family today if Casey Anthony doesnt get the DP for this..Then NO ONE ever again should get it!!!!  Bring her to Texas, we'll take care of her.

Unfortunately, even in Texas, baby killers sometimes escape the DP.  In the case quoted a few pages back, http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/091106_royce_zeigler_baby_grace, Royce Zeigler got life, as did the baby's mother, convicted back in February.  The prosecutor did not seek the DP because he wasn't sure he could convince a jury that these two were an ongoing threat to society...I am sorry, but the link I had back in February for that last is no longer active.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 09:57:43 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:00:25 AM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   

But those clothes and toys were paid for my sin-sin....kc didn't have a job....she lived off others and stole from family and friends to get what SHE WANTED!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: janetruth on November 07, 2009, 10:01:39 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

She wouldn't need the needle for that.  And syringes can be had easily, as has been said, from those who use performance-enhancing drugs.

You know the defense is going to say that, just because the syringe was in the vicinity of Caylee's remains, doesn't mean there is a connection...I hope they find something that actually ties that bottle and its contents to Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:02:23 AM
Hi Monkeys....
I hope you remember me  ::MonkeyDevil2::
I think that Casey thought that chloroform preserve the bodies a little bit longer  ..that is the reason for her she change the dates that she last seen Caylee.... maybe she thought that her plan will work and caylee will show up less days to be dead.

Hi cecilita!!  Welcome home!!  And WELCOME to our new Monks!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
This is fairly gruesome reading. Even LP said he was distressed today.
There is no way to defend this evidence. The lawyers that are defending her, well this case is going to be a career breaker. The only thing they ( the defense ) has in their favor is that there were no witnesses to the child being abused and a bunch of pictures of Caylee and Casey where Caylee had alot of nice clothes and toys.   

Speaking of LP -  did anyone understand his comment tonight about Tracy?    He said something about Tracey being all upset all day (oh boo hoo to Tracy for being so stupid in the first place) and then something about maybe there's something she didn't tell Nick Savage - that something seems to be missing.....    I don't understand what he is trying to get at.    Does anyone have any ideas?     I think sometimes LP just needs to be quiet when he doesn't know what he's talking about.   JMO.

Hi Sassy!  I was wondering if he was sending Tracy a message...that she needs to tell ALL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 10:07:46 AM
O.k.,thinking this through a little...bear with me.  Three things come to mind:  the syringe needle may have Caylee's DNA on it;  the Disposable Syringe Kit packaging may have traceable bar code and manufacturing markings (as well as the Gatorade bottle); and thinking the syringe cap/packaging/bottle lid may have had prints.

Well, barely keeping my eyes open here.  So, I'm calling it a night.  Resting in the fact that God loved Caylee so much more than we ever can.  He's capable of seeing this thing through for Caylee.  Hope you all rest well.  God bless you!

I give my dog Charlie insulin shots.  I got the last syringes at Walmart.  The needle is 1/2" long.  There is a 1/4" insulin syringe needle, but Charlie has long hair and i get the long one for him.  There is no identification marking on the syringe, just the plastic bag has a number.  The number is different on each bag.  Unless there is some kind of manufacturing difference, I don't think the syringe can be identified as to where it came from, at least according to the syringes I have for Charlie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:09:58 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 10:12:36 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::
No. There is nothing to link the Disney Bag to Casey. Chloroform seems to be a link to alot of things in this case. There was lot of flotsam in that area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 07, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
[Monkalicious I am with you on this.  I posted earlier asking the same thing about a receipt showing a purchase of a syringe but then I ask where did the testosterone come from? I have to wonder if she had been using these syringes for awhile and that they were readily available (Ant home perhaps) because I can't get it out of my head that Caylee died in the wee hours of the 16th so the syringe would have had to have been already in her possession - I mean did she run out the night of the 15th and buy one or was there one in the house and she took it when she left, or was it in her car in her so called cache of weapons?  Seems as though she had been using them and chloro prior to her leaving that night. I hope I am making sense here.  I would really like to know where Casey was the entire day of June 15th?

That makes sense, that she would have had to have the syringe in advance.  Here's an thought, and this a stretch, I know, what if Casey did have DepoProvera shots, and Cindy administered them to her?  That would account for the testosterone traces, right?  Would it not be priceless to have Cindy's prints as well as Casey's on the syringe?  Two for the price of one.  (And Karmic justice served if Casey gets the needle.)


Bingo! DepoProvera is medroxyprogesterone. I think this is the most likely answer. Cindy would be just that controlling to take charge of Casey's birth control.

Catching up on the posts this morning and...once again ya'll have Nick and I floored!

Scared Monkeys ROCK!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

11/06/09 Bug Report – Entomology
November 6th, 2009



I saw this on another site, apparently they didn't have enough to sample the blood for DNA on the napkins. Did anyone else see more on this?

The following items tested positive (chemically) for blood.

Q81 - Clothing from ME's office
Q82 - Blanket
Q84 - Laundry bag
Q103 - Blanket

Q248.1-Q248.4 ....NAPKINS FROM THE VEHICLE.

Page 1378

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html

How did blood get on all these items AND on the napkins from the vehicle trunk???


Morning tupelo......good question.... how and who's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 10:18:37 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::
No. There is nothing to link the Disney Bag to Casey. Chloroform seems to be a link to alot of things in this case. There was lot of flotsam in that area.
Thank-you, so unless there is DNA/fingerprints on that bottle/syringe of Casey this could be a red herring or it could be huge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 07, 2009, 10:19:14 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 10:22:31 AM
Woo Hoo................ watching Nancy Grace!

me too!

a thought occurred to me...and you smart monkeys may have already thought of it...the syringe found had traces of testosterone along with the other ingredients...wonder if Lee was working out and was using the syringe to inject himself and Casey took the syringe after he tossed it? NG is talking about testosterone now! she must be reading this as I type!

It's been quite a long time since I needed birth control pills, but I believe at least some of them contain testosterone or a similar hormone which is testostrone like.  Maybe she put a pill in the can for good measure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 10:26:11 AM
I believe KC could have gotten a syringe at a number of places:  mom's a nurse; maybe a boyfriend or a male friend could be taking body building drugs (testostrone).

What an evil person KC is.

You know what?  As horrible as it sounds...neck breaking would have been quick and an immediate death.

KC researched that...must have been too painless for her.

With today's doc release and the prior knowledge of duct tape across the mouth and nose, it sure seems to me that KC wanted a painful death to savor.  Dispicable.


I get my dog's insulin syringes at Walmart.  No prescription needed.  No record kept of the purchase. They come in packages of ten and are very cheap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
And they have dogs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 07, 2009, 10:36:39 AM
good morning all monkeys!
very interesting thoughts and theories !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 10:47:33 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
I have been reading predictions about how long it will take a jury to convict her.  My thoughts....if this goes to trial, (I still think there could be a LWOP plea ) I think the jury will go over each piece of evidence with a fine tooth comb with it being a DP case. I think they will be out for days if not a week or more.  I remember the Darlie Routier case......the jury was out 2-3 days, found her guilty and then another 2-3 days to give her the DP. She has been on death row for the past 12-13 years. I knew a lady who's husband was on the jury and later on she said he  had nightmares for month's after the trial ended. The pictures were horrendous and gory. (the boys throat's were slit) He also told her imposing the DP was one of the hardest things he ever did in his life, but those pictures were what finally turned the jury.  So I think it will not be a wham, bam, thank you ma'am decision. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 07, 2009, 10:51:11 AM
OK, don't want to be the bearer of any bad news, but something about the entomology report bothers me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
The entomologist phrases his findings with the assumption that the remains were in a car trunk. Now, I believe they were, but the defense is going to ask if it is possible that the remains were simply in a sealed or enclosed area, rather than SPECIFICALLY a car trunk. Possible bias on the part of the scientist. Never a good idea. ALWAYS phrase findings in a neutral, comprehensive manner. Because the evidence doesn't have an opinion, it just is.

With all de respect that was not an assumption.  There was still the odor of decomp in the car  trunk 6 months later, even with the carpet removed.  A hair with death band was found in the trunk,  Coffin flies were found in the trunk.  The only way any of that got into the trunk is if a dead body were in the trunk..nothing else would have caused any of those 3 situations occurring together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 10:52:47 AM
Good Morning.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I still don't have a lot to contribute yet, as I am still feeling pretty shell shocked.


WELCOME to the new monkeys here! I am sure we will get to know each other.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

Thank you all for keeping the conversation going when I have barely been unable to string a whole sentence together since yesterday. For all of you that think I blab too much, you have gotten a reprieve from my yapping all the time. I have read back to all the posts, and there have been some good ones. I will be here, mostly lurking, until I get back up to speed. I know there are others that are feeling like I am.  :smt056  I think I am soon going to be very angry!

Right now I am feeling like this: (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrycat-1.jpg)

Pretty soon I think I will feel like this(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Kitty-1.gif)

And then Fanny Mae will be back!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 10:52:54 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 11:02:20 AM
I have been reading predictions about how long it will take a jury to convict her.  My thoughts....if this goes to trial, (I still think there could be a LWOP plea ) I think the jury will go over each piece of evidence with a fine tooth comb with it being a DP case. I think they will be out for days if not a week or more.  I remember the Darlie Routier case......the jury was out 2-3 days, found her guilty and then another 2-3 days to give her the DP. She has been on death row for the past 12-13 years. I knew a lady who's husband was on the jury and later on she said he  had nightmares for month's after the trial ended. The pictures were horrendous and gory. (the boys throat's were slit) He also told her imposing the DP was one of the hardest things he ever did in his life, but those pictures were what finally turned the jury.  So I think it will not be a wham, bam, thank you ma'am decision. JMO


Florida juries have a very high rate of deciding for the DP especially in cases involving children. ( I personally think it's because everyone down here is getting sick of so many kids being murdered in our state). We also seem to be one of very few if not the only state that does not require the jury to vote unanimously for the DP. A majority will do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 11:03:18 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 11:05:06 AM
Fanny,I hear you.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 11:12:43 AM
Fanny,I hear you.    ::MonkeyCool::

Me too.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:17:30 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 11:22:58 AM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 07, 2009, 11:29:08 AM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

you could be on to something there Rosie....:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:35:37 AM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.
I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 11:38:56 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.
The chloroform connection is too perfect. They didn't tie anything in that Disney bag to anyone YET.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.
I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.


oooh I don't think you should. I find it really interesting-kind of puts a whole different spin on things. Early on ( it's been so long) but I vaguely recall something about the lack of a diaper bag in the car and that she had multiple diaper bags that were more of the backpack type. Maybe the winnie the pooh diaper bag was originally left behind somewhere.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.
The chloroform connection is too perfect. They didn't tie anything in that Disney bag to anyone YET.


I'm praying for fingerprints, especially on the inside plastic covering for the syringe, or on the syringe itself. If not, I'll take some DNA on the bag or the syringe from KC.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: strayze on November 07, 2009, 11:47:13 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.
I feel I better drop this, but I just feel there is more to the bag and it's contents.


oooh I don't think you should. I find it really interesting-kind of puts a whole different spin on things. Early on ( it's been so long) but I vaguely recall something about the lack of a diaper bag in the car and that she had multiple diaper bags that were more of the backpack type. Maybe the winnie the pooh diaper bag was originally left behind somewhere.
That could be, I just feel that the Anthonys would do anything and everything to protect their daughter, and I'm just wondering if this is part of their plan, could be nothing and could be a lot. I guess we will have to wait and see how this connects.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 11:49:24 AM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

Who are you not trusting, NOROSE? The SA or the Defense?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:50:13 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 
That's what I would like to know, but since it wasn't just chloroform in the bottle, would that dilute to the point that the plastic wouldn't dissolve?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 07, 2009, 11:50:49 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: strayze on November 07, 2009, 11:51:30 AM
Chloroform...at the scene where the remains were found and on the doll and in the trunk and search on the computer.  Oh..wait...didn't Cindy say that she was the one making the computer search for chlorform.

Uh-o...isn't Cindy a nurse...sure to have syringes lying around somewhere...hmmmm

Careful Cindy...one could look at you with more than a little suspicion.


  In Maryland I buy syringes either singly or as a case at the Giant food chain.  Only requirement is the money to buy them.  I get case-loads as I'm on a daily injectable for a very rare lung disease totally unrelated to smoking. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 07, 2009, 11:52:16 AM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

OK, gotta ask, how did you discover your glasses dissolve in chloroform???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
I have great faith in the State. I'm just saying that the bag and it's contents with the info that we have seen does not prove to me that this was Casey's and that is how she killed Caylee. Now the State just may have evidence that they are holding back for trial that has Casey's fingerprints on the bottle/syringe, I have no idea what evidence they have that they are holding on to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 11:56:08 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.
I am just simply stating that I believe there is more to this bag then what meets the eye. And I would have no trouble leaping to the Anthonys knowing where Caylee was the whole time, I just don't trust any of them. Guess we will have to wait until trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 07, 2009, 11:58:48 AM
There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.

Good point.   And you have a great memory!     ::MonkeyAngel::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 07, 2009, 12:00:24 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 
That's what I would like to know, but since it wasn't just chloroform in the bottle, would that dilute to the point that the plastic wouldn't dissolve?

I would have thought that if the chloroform had been extracted by the syringe after the chemical reaction was complete, (there may have been a teaspoon of chloroform after the reaction) and this was removed by syringe through the lighter top layer, there would only be trace evidence of chloroform in the bottle. Not enough to affect the plastic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 07, 2009, 12:01:23 PM
Chloroform...at the scene where the remains were found and on the doll and in the trunk and search on the computer.  Oh..wait...didn't Cindy say that she was the one making the computer search for chlorform.

Uh-o...isn't Cindy a nurse...sure to have syringes lying around somewhere...hmmmm

Careful Cindy...one could look at you with more than a little suspicion.


  In Maryland I buy syringes either singly or as a case at the Giant food chain.  Only requirement is the money to buy them.  I get case-loads as I'm on a daily injectable for a very rare lung disease totally unrelated to smoking. 

Sorry about your illness, but thanks for the info.  I had no idea you could buy them anywhere without a prescription or something...    But it makes sense, the druggies get them somehow.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 07, 2009, 12:06:06 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 
That's what I would like to know, but since it wasn't just chloroform in the bottle, would that dilute to the point that the plastic wouldn't dissolve?

I would have thought that if the chloroform had been extracted by the syringe after the chemical reaction was complete, (there may have been a teaspoon of chloroform after the reaction) and this was removed by syringe through the lighter top layer, there would only be trace evidence of chloroform in the bottle. Not enough to affect the plastic.

Edit. Also the remaining liquid would have been bleach and any by products of the chemical reaction, these products are safe in plastic. People seem to think that there would have been large amounts of chloroform created, when in this container size with what was needed + ice for cooling very little would have been made.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 12:08:34 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-28599-Crime--Media-Examiner~y2009m11d7-Casey-Anthony-documents-released-chloroform-found-near-Caylee-remains
Casey Anthony documents released: chloroform found near Caylee remains
November 7, 2:48 AMCrime & Media ExaminerJason Taylor
On Friday, prosecutors from the Florida State Attorney's Office released more than 2000 pages of documents in the Casey Anthony murder trial.

The documents include dozens of photographs from the woods where Caylee Anthony's remains were found along with DNA analysis results.

Among the evidence were pictures that show a syringe and a Gatorade bottle that were found near Caylee's remains, and a doll that was found in Casey’s white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT.

The FBI reports that the syringe was found inside of a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit." The bag was found inside the Gatorade bottle.

The FBI reports that it found traces of chloroform in both the bottle and the syringe. The reports also indicate that the doll had traces of chloroform as well.

Casey is accused of murdering her 2-year-old daughter Caylee who disappeared in June 2008. Suspicions quickly arose around Caylee’s mother when it was revealed that Casey did not report her daughter missing, and lied about the child’s whereabouts.

The murder trial is slated to begin in June 2010. If convicted, Casey could face the death penalty.
Click here for video detailing new evidence.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJX9tyz2dc


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
Thanks Miki Monkey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 07, 2009, 12:13:56 PM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.

 ::MonkeyEek::  That is pretty interesting and I wouldn't put anything past any of them.     I just hope they found fingerprints to whoever touched it and used it.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: strayze on November 07, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
Fanny, that is what I was wondering, but since it was also in the sports drink bottle then maybe she injected it into there and (hopefully) not Caylee.  The only reason I can figure using a syringe would be if the chloroform was in one of those bottles that you have to extract with a needle.  Like you see at the dr.'s office. If not, then why put it in the sports drink?

Evening, all!  Joining the ranks of the incredibly angered tonight!  Jennifer34, your questions made me think of something else.  What if Casey didn't use the syringe to inject the Chloroform into Caylee, but used it as you suggested, to syphon the chloroform out of some type of bottle (the Gatorade bottle or another one)?  Perhaps she used the syringe to inject the chloroform into the bottle of Cool Blue Gatorade to mix it and then gave Caylee some of it to drink or used the syringe to squirt it into her mouth (as mothers do, giving objectionable medicine to babies and toddlers).  I wonder if there were any Disposable Syringe Kits in Casey's purchase receipts or from store records.

I don't have a gatorade bottle to test, but my question is:  Will the Gatorade bottle dissolve in chloroform?  I do know that my plastic glasses dissolve in chloroform, both rims and lenses. 

OK, gotta ask, how did you discover your glasses dissolve in chloroform???

I was in the lab and my glasses needed cleaning.  So I used the nearest solvent available.  Very bad choice.   

With regard to Gatorade bottle dissolving in chloroform, that was the wrong question, since the forensic report says a mixture of water, alcohol (presumably ethanol, but could be isopropanol), and chloroform.  Apparently this mixture was compatible with the Gatorade bottle.   Mixtures of solvents have different properties than any of their components taken alone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: oldhippychik on November 07, 2009, 12:24:52 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 12:33:47 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO
I'm really hoping and thinking they have a fingerprints on the duct tape. They are holding the big stuff for trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 07, 2009, 12:34:21 PM
I don't think they released anything with fingerprints but I could be wrong. There are literally THOUSANDS of pages of documents and I haven't seen anything about fingerprints. You'd think there'd be someone's fingerprints on some of the items. I'm wondering if it'll be the very last thing the SA releases before trial. The smoking gun so to speak.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 12:36:48 PM
I don't think they released anything with fingerprints but I could be wrong. There are literally THOUSANDS of pages of documents and I haven't seen anything about fingerprints. You'd think there'd be someone's fingerprints on some of the items. I'm wondering if it'll be the very last thing the SA releases before trial. The smoking gun so to speak.
They just have to have fingerprints, they have to have more that they are holding on to imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 07, 2009, 12:43:30 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO
I'm really hoping and thinking they have a fingerprints on the duct tape. They are holding the big stuff for trial.

I totally agree with you on this!!!  They had to have something big to put the death penalty back on the table.  IMO   We all know what a thief Casey is and she could have gotten the syringe anywhere.  I still say that there are a couple of her guy friends that look like they could be body builders.   I'm still so in shock of what that poor baby must have gone through in life and while someone she trusted murdered her it makes me sick to my stomach.
I would love to be able to come to Orlando for the trial even if I couldn't get in the courtroom.  I would just love to drive by the A's house and see how they act each day after more and more evidence are told to the jurors and public.  IMO  the whole family needs to go down with her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 07, 2009, 12:48:01 PM
Well everyone I need to get off of here for a little while and get something done!  It's almost noon and here I sit reading and drinking coffee.  It's supposed to be 70 here today, which is great!  Be back later. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
I was just talking with someone who works in the medical field and she said that Gentamycin is usually used for pink eye, in drop form. It can be used for infections that other antibiotics don't work on. So, I would tend to think that Caylee more than likely had pink eye than a serious infection. IDK tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 01:16:07 PM
I was just talking with someone who works in the medical field and she said that Gentamycin is usually used for pink eye, in drop form. It can be used for infections that other antibiotics don't work on. So, I would tend to think that Caylee more than likely had pink eye than a serious infection. IDK tho.

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 07, 2009, 01:24:51 PM
I don't think they released anything with fingerprints but I could be wrong. There are literally THOUSANDS of pages of documents and I haven't seen anything about fingerprints. You'd think there'd be someone's fingerprints on some of the items. I'm wondering if it'll be the very last thing the SA releases before trial. The smoking gun so to speak.
They just have to have fingerprints, they have to have more that they are holding on to imo.

I agree tht they definitely have fingerprints.  They list the fingerprints taken of George, Cindy and Lee as  fingerprints for elimination purposes.  If you didn't have fingerprints on something, well you wouldn't need to eliminate them from other prints would you?  And I believe they have more then just one fingerprint on one item.   I think we are looking at the gas can and the tape on that, the duct tape found at the scene..several peices, the syringe, the bottle and the Sprite can, as well as the paper towels, and some of the black plastic from the scene.  She left fingerprints somewhere.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 07, 2009, 01:40:01 PM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

you could be on to something there Rosie....:)
no rose=who did the planting-sin sin -george- lee   -anything is possiblw with these evil people-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

OK,  am with you now. Thanks for the explanation.

you could be on to something there Rosie....:)
no rose=who did the planting-sin sin -george- lee   -anything is possiblw with these evil people-
They are evil and who knows what they are all capable of doing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 01:59:16 PM
They are evil and who knows what they are all capable of doing?

No Rose, I share your concerns, and it would not surprise one bit if that bottle and syringe is a plant. It just seems too perfect, doesn't it? I really hope there is a print or some type of DNA to link it to KC, or any of the A's, and it shuts their yaps for good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 02:04:17 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 02:05:43 PM
They are evil and who knows what they are all capable of doing?

No Rose, I share your concerns, and it would not surprise one bit if that bottle and syringe is a plant. It just seems too perfect, doesn't it? I really hope there is a print or some type of DNA to link it to KC, or any of the A's, and it shuts their yaps for good!
Something is just to perfect. Maybe I watch way too much crime shows, or read too many crime books. Thing is we may never know what really happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 02:06:21 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 07, 2009, 02:07:10 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
There is no way in my mind that a murder of a 2yrs child is not cruel-I notice they did not say accident-because if it was an accident-you would feel remorse-you would be guilt ridden you would not be out partying-in other words you would not do any of the things that evil bitch did

He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: leslee on November 07, 2009, 02:12:54 PM
They are evil and who knows what they are all capable of doing?

No Rose, I share your concerns, and it would not surprise one bit if that bottle and syringe is a plant. It just seems too perfect, doesn't it? I really hope there is a print or some type of DNA to link it to KC, or any of the A's, and it shuts their yaps for good!
Something is just to perfect. Maybe I watch way too much crime shows, or read too many crime books. Thing is we may never know what really happened.

I really am not convinced it is a plant. KC had no way of knowing just WHEN Caylee would be discovered. She was a careless, lazy slob in every other aspect of her life. She couldn't even be bothered to attempt to dig a grave for her child....... This may actually be the means by which Caylee died, disguised in a Disney bag to portray the nanny story ( Zanny took her to SeaWorld, Disney etc.). I would think since KC had no way of knowing just when Caylee would be discovered that she made an effort to wipe her prints off of everything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 02:15:50 PM
They are evil and who knows what they are all capable of doing?

No Rose, I share your concerns, and it would not surprise one bit if that bottle and syringe is a plant. It just seems too perfect, doesn't it? I really hope there is a print or some type of DNA to link it to KC, or any of the A's, and it shuts their yaps for good!
Something is just to perfect. Maybe I watch way too much crime shows, or read too many crime books. Thing is we may never know what really happened.

I really am not convinced it is a plant. KC had no way of knowing just WHEN Caylee would be discovered. She was a careless, lazy slob in every other aspect of her life. She couldn't even be bothered to attempt to dig a grave for her child....... This may actually be the means by which Caylee died, disguised in a Disney bag to portray the nanny story ( Zanny took her to SeaWorld, Disney etc.). I would think since KC had no way of knowing just when Caylee would be discovered that she made an effort to wipe her prints off of everything.
And not only the Disney bag, but the Winnie balloon, to show all the fun places Zanny took Caylee too. Who really knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 02:29:25 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::

He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 07, 2009, 02:29:54 PM
Good Morning, Monkeys !

(Well where I am it is still morning for a few minutes...lol) 

Not up to date with today's posting and not through all of the docs yet, but was wondering this:  The state announced they would seek the death penalty in April... (was it the 13th? one article i read seemed to say that).  Anyway, looking at the dates of the tests, etc... could we figure out what exactly in the evidence decided that for them.  It seems like some of these tests are after the decision to seek it... I could be totally off base and confused here, but wondering if there is really an even better "smoking gun" piece of evidence to come?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 07, 2009, 02:36:07 PM
I had an idea.  We've all speculated on what story the credit card statements could tell--what if a purchase of a syringe and gatorade were on a receipt?  Maybe this is the smoking gun, (or syringe.) I remember buying a syringe (no needle) to give my twins premeasured doses of cough medicine when they were little.  I know it's a lot of trouble to check, but what if on one of the Target trips, she bought something like that?  Maybe not the Amy related ones but at a different time.  I know it's a long shot, but like others, I want the Casey connection solid and irrefutable.  Lee gave receipts to JB, but what if they didn't give all the receipts to LE?  I absolutely think Casey is bold and arrogant enough to save something like that, thinking that no one could possibly be smart enough to put two and two together. 
On a side note, I'm trying so hard not to think about Caylee's suffering.  My heart is sorely shattered by this latest info, and I am sure my Monkey friends are feeling this way also.  The only saving grace is realizing that this is only another step in the journey to Justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Wouldn't it be wild if they could prove that was what she was supposedly surreptitiously carrying out of the walmart when the computer store guy saw her being so mean to little Caylee on the 16th?  How perfect would it be if they found a date-time stamped receipt from Walmart with that on it?  I know , too much wrong with his story, but , what a tidy package that would be.  And would show her state of mind prior to the killing too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 02:43:08 PM
I think the day that Keith Miller put the bag with the clothes, toys and the Fathers day balloon in Spindy's hands,  she absolutely knew that Caylee was in the woods. Even though she said they were not Caylee's, she knew. Weren't they also in a Disney bag?

No way do I think it was a plant for the Disney bag to be a the remains site. KC thought she was so smart, that everything would wash away and be cleansed in the process. She was familiar with the ebb and flow of the swamp where she left Caylee. Thus the smirks. I notice she isn't smirking so much the last few times in court. And I don't think it is because the Battlewagon is telling her to clean up her act. I just don't believe she thought so much was going to be found. EVER!

I still say Thank God for Krunk, whatever his motives. Can you imagine how many dollars Spindy and George could have REALLY drug in and how SYMPATHETIC they would be at this time? I am glad they are showing the crassness. I am glad they are showing their hard hearts. I am glad they are showing how materialistic they are. I am glad they are showing how KC got just the way she is! I am glad!!! Bad evil seed from bad evil people.   ::MonkeyMad::

Edit:  Fix typo.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 02:44:32 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122897
Caylee Anthony - More Evidence Released Against Tot’s Mom
Posted on November 7th, 2009
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime
Read 171 times.

More evidence was released by prosecutors yesterday in the case against little Caylee Anthony’s Mom. Caylee’s remains were found on December 11, 2008 after a wide search was held looking for her since mid July. The child was reportedly last seen in mid June when her mother claims she dropped her off with a so called baby sitter and she never saw her again.

Instead of reporting the child missing dear Mom decides to do her own investigating looking in places she thought the baby sitter might be like night clubs, while partying with her friends (Casey’s friends though NOT the babysitters) and Target Stores, and Blockbusters and apparently even a tattoo parlor. I suppose Casey had to get a tattoo in order to get information about the baby sitter instead of flashing a 50 dollar bill or a 100 dollar bill at the guy for any information he might have on the whereabouts of her daughter. Sorry I am not buying these excuses and I seriously doubt many people will.

Casey was indicted by the Florida Grand Jury and has been in jail ever since being held without bond on charges of first degree murder and the state is asking for the death penalty. Now the defense is claiming that they have evidence to prove Casey didn’t kill her daughter but instead of coming forth with such evidence which they clearly state can clear their client, her attorney, Jose (Bozo) Baez claims she wants her day in court so she is going to continue sitting in jail until her court date comes which I believe is sometimes in June or July of 2010. OK so this is another one I am not buying unless sitting in jail is that much better than living with George and Cindy Anthony, which well I might be able to buy that one.

Including in the new evidence yesterday was dozens of pictures taken from where Caylee’s remains were found. There was also some DNA analysis results released too.

Documents released say that a Gatorade Cool Blue Sports bottle was found near Caylee’s remains. A plastic bag labeled “Disposable Syringe Kit” with a syringe was found inside the bottle. There were some traces of chloroform found inside the syringe along with testosterone, ethanol and water.

A photo of the tattoo that Casey Anthony has on her back shoulder which says “Bella Vita” which when translated into English it means “Beautiful Life”, was released along with an explanation of what the prosecution had to go through in order to get this photo. Casey got the tattoo after she claims Caylee went missing but before she reported it to anyone, which for the record she never did herself personally. Her mother, Cindy did so.

Also a report was released from an insect expert that found what they called “coffin flies” in a bag of trash found in the trunk of Casey’s car. Forensic expert, Shelley Shaffer says, “Those bugs attract to decomposing any kind of animal flesh or human flesh.” This leaves investigators to believe that something dead was likely removed from the trunk of the car between June 20th and June 27th of last year and put somewhere else after it had started the decomposing stage. The same type of bugs was found near Caylee’s remains.

Now I have to admit I am not even close to being a fan of the National Enquirer Magazine but I must say I ran across something I found interesting of something they are reporting. Now this may not be true but then again knowing Casey Anthony I wouldn’t be surprised. At any rate they are claiming that when Casey got news of the upcoming play created by Steven Soderbergh titled “Tot Mom” that is scheduled to run from December 18, 2009 through January 31, 2010 in Australia, her response was, “Are you (expletive) kidding me? You get my (expletive) lawyer, now!”

An inmate supposedly told the Enquirer, “Casey was completely out of control after hearing about the play. She was screaming so loud that a guard threatened to lock her in an isolation unit. She demanded that guards contact her attorney, Jose Baez.”

Now one could ask, was this response a rage from knowing she was not going to get a penny from royalties from the play which is based on official documents and coverage of the case or because they aren’t siding with her perhaps? Who knows what goes through this woman’s head.

Let’s hope this puts a stop to Baez’s motion yet again to get this thrown out on his client which he claims her indictment was unconstitutionally vague. I have to ask all the time how can any attorney on the so called wannabe dream team of Casey Anthony, sleep at night knowing they are defending this woman. My conscience would not let me sleep if I knew I was working day and night to defend a cold blooded murderer.

In closing I would like to ask everyone to say a special thanks to God for answering our prayers for bringing little Shannon Dedrick back safe and healthy. She still needs our prayers that she will be given the chance to be with someone that can give her a normal life and a safe one.

Please continue praying for all the others that are still lost that need to be found and for those that have been taken from us. Pray that those will soon get the justice that they deserve.

For those that know me and read my articles, you know I have to name the list of children I have that we at BNN have reported on just to keep their names in print in hopes that it will keep them from being forgotten.

Caylee Anthony, Adji Desir, Haleigh Cummings, Somer Thompson, Elizabeth Olten, Masaraha Ross, Alex Mercado and Rebecca Marie Allen. They all need our prayers. God bless you all that care.

Jan Barrett






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 02:45:26 PM
Not going to repeat the whole post. I hope you know I mean KC instead of KS. 

I am really angry and upset today. ::MonkeyMad::

Yep, I knew what you meant Fanny, but I fixed it for you.
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 07, 2009, 02:47:41 PM
Good Morning and Welcome Persia, very good post.  Okay, I've bee thinking about this Disney Bag and the bottle and syringe and the contents of the bottle. Is it proven that the Disney Bag is Caseys? Something doesn't seem right here, if someone has read the bag is definitely Casey's please direct me to the docs that show that. I'm even going to go out on a limb here, my thoughts are this bag could have been planted, just a thought, it just seems all to perfect and neat.  ::MonkeyEek::

nrcg...I am not following your thinking on this, sorry. Who do you think might have planted it? And for what purpose? (call me slow this morning)
I don't trust any of them, as of now there is no connection that the Disney bag was Casey's. It just seems to me that one wouldn't leave the items behind that you killed a person with. But you might plant evidence to make it look like someone else did it, Cindy herself said that Jesse had access to Casey's car, and I'm willling to bet when Casey went to take a shower at Jesse's that perhaps she took something of his, something with testoserone in it. To me this is just not proof that this bag has to do with Caylee's death, now if there is more evidence that comes out to prove it, I will change my mind. And also many things out of their mouths about Jesse and his temper, was this being set up for a roid rage type of thing? And I want to be clear, I don't under any circumstances believe Jesse, or any of the other friends had anything to do with this. Though I don't trust Annie at all.

I hear what you are saying, BUT, the state has done all the testing (ie: fingerprints, I hope, and possible blood evidence) and have  not seemed to glance in any direction but Casey.  And they brought the DP.  I don't think it is a successful frame, if that is what she intended..... JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 07, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
Not going to repeat the whole post. I hope you know I mean KC instead of KS. 

I am really angry and upset today. ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
I really don't think Casey purchased the syringe, because of the testosterone. I think she lifted it from someone who was using steroids to pump up. In the report it says it was Testosterone Propionate. This is found on page 913  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html  See this link about testosterone propionate.  http://old.steroidology.com/steroid-articles/steroid.info/33/Testosterone_propionate.html

But with Casey, who knows. She may have thought that by having the testosterone in with the chloroform mixture it would tend to point to a male being the one who caused Caylee's death (even though Zanny is female) and maybe even a very specific male to boot.  I sure hope there are fingerprints on that syringe....if she lifted it, the original owners prints should be there. JMO





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:17:01 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO

Good point.  This doc dump could well be due to the defense making motion to take away death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence.

At some time back, the SA decided to put back the death penalty against KC.  First there was the death penalty, then it was dropped.  I don't believe that the SA would have added back the death penalty without absolute proof of KC's guilt.  Not after having gone back-and-forth with the death penalty.  I think that when the SA added back on the death penalty, was at a point when the testing of the evidence proved something very positive against KC. 

I can't remember the timeframe of when the announcement was of the death penalty was added back.  Does any monkey remember that time frame?  If so, we could probably figure out what evidence they had at that time (given that we now have so much evidence to go throught and that the evidence is dated).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 07, 2009, 03:22:53 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO

Good point.  This doc dump could well be due to the defense making motion to take away death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence.

At some time back, the SA decided to put back the death penalty against KC.  First there was the death penalty, then it was dropped.  I don't believe that the SA would have added back the death penalty without absolute proof of KC's guilt.  Not after having gone back-and-forth with the death penalty.  I think that when the SA added back on the death penalty, was at a point when the testing of the evidence proved something very positive against KC. 

I can't remember the timeframe of when the announcement was of the death penalty was added back.  Does any monkey remember that time frame?  If so, we could probably figure out what evidence they had at that time (given that we now have so much evidence to go throught and that the evidence is dated).



Hey, Puzzler,

I was thinking along those lines this am myself.  The date I found for the announcement of seeking the death penalty was April 13th....   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: leslee on November 07, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
Maybe this latest doc dump is a responce to Bozo and Lyon's motion to take away the death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence. The SA may be giving a little tip of the hand as to what evidence they are holding back until trail. If they showed us this much, I would have to believe there is actual proof linking KillerCasey, MO

Good point.  This doc dump could well be due to the defense making motion to take away death penalty or drop the charges due to no evidence.

At some time back, the SA decided to put back the death penalty against KC.  First there was the death penalty, then it was dropped.  I don't believe that the SA would have added back the death penalty without absolute proof of KC's guilt.  Not after having gone back-and-forth with the death penalty.  I think that when the SA added back on the death penalty, was at a point when the testing of the evidence proved something very positive against KC. 

I can't remember the timeframe of when the announcement was of the death penalty was added back.  Does any monkey remember that time frame?  If so, we could probably figure out what evidence they had at that time (given that we now have so much evidence to go throught and that the evidence is dated).



April 14th.............. could have been after testing came back?

Heres a story from CNN about it
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/13/casey.caylee.anthony/index.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 07, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::

He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Yeah.... but what about Georgies "diamonds"  ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Searching on November 07, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122897
Caylee Anthony - More Evidence Released Against Tot’s Mom
Posted on November 7th, 2009
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime
Read 171 times.

More evidence was released by prosecutors yesterday in the case against little Caylee Anthony’s Mom. Caylee’s remains were found on December 11, 2008 after a wide search was held looking for her since mid July. The child was reportedly last seen in mid June when her mother claims she dropped her off with a so called baby sitter and she never saw her again.

Instead of reporting the child missing dear Mom decides to do her own investigating looking in places she thought the baby sitter might be like night clubs, while partying with her friends (Casey’s friends though NOT the babysitters) and Target Stores, and Blockbusters and apparently even a tattoo parlor. I suppose Casey had to get a tattoo in order to get information about the baby sitter instead of flashing a 50 dollar bill or a 100 dollar bill at the guy for any information he might have on the whereabouts of her daughter. Sorry I am not buying these excuses and I seriously doubt many people will.

Casey was indicted by the Florida Grand Jury and has been in jail ever since being held without bond on charges of first degree murder and the state is asking for the death penalty. Now the defense is claiming that they have evidence to prove Casey didn’t kill her daughter but instead of coming forth with such evidence which they clearly state can clear their client, her attorney, Jose (Bozo) Baez claims she wants her day in court so she is going to continue sitting in jail until her court date comes which I believe is sometimes in June or July of 2010. OK so this is another one I am not buying unless sitting in jail is that much better than living with George and Cindy Anthony, which well I might be able to buy that one.

Including in the new evidence yesterday was dozens of pictures taken from where Caylee’s remains were found. There was also some DNA analysis results released too.

Documents released say that a Gatorade Cool Blue Sports bottle was found near Caylee’s remains. A plastic bag labeled “Disposable Syringe Kit” with a syringe was found inside the bottle. There were some traces of chloroform found inside the syringe along with testosterone, ethanol and water.

A photo of the tattoo that Casey Anthony has on her back shoulder which says “Bella Vita” which when translated into English it means “Beautiful Life”, was released along with an explanation of what the prosecution had to go through in order to get this photo. Casey got the tattoo after she claims Caylee went missing but before she reported it to anyone, which for the record she never did herself personally. Her mother, Cindy did so.

Also a report was released from an insect expert that found what they called “coffin flies” in a bag of trash found in the trunk of Casey’s car. Forensic expert, Shelley Shaffer says, “Those bugs attract to decomposing any kind of animal flesh or human flesh.” This leaves investigators to believe that something dead was likely removed from the trunk of the car between June 20th and June 27th of last year and put somewhere else after it had started the decomposing stage. The same type of bugs was found near Caylee’s remains.

Now I have to admit I am not even close to being a fan of the National Enquirer Magazine but I must say I ran across something I found interesting of something they are reporting. Now this may not be true but then again knowing Casey Anthony I wouldn’t be surprised. At any rate they are claiming that when Casey got news of the upcoming play created by Steven Soderbergh titled “Tot Mom” that is scheduled to run from December 18, 2009 through January 31, 2010 in Australia, her response was, “Are you (expletive) kidding me? You get my (expletive) lawyer, now!”

An inmate supposedly told the Enquirer, “Casey was completely out of control after hearing about the play. She was screaming so loud that a guard threatened to lock her in an isolation unit. She demanded that guards contact her attorney, Jose Baez.”

Now one could ask, was this response a rage from knowing she was not going to get a penny from royalties from the play which is based on official documents and coverage of the case or because they aren’t siding with her perhaps? Who knows what goes through this woman’s head.

Let’s hope this puts a stop to Baez’s motion yet again to get this thrown out on his client which he claims her indictment was unconstitutionally vague. I have to ask all the time how can any attorney on the so called wannabe dream team of Casey Anthony, sleep at night knowing they are defending this woman. My conscience would not let me sleep if I knew I was working day and night to defend a cold blooded murderer.

In closing I would like to ask everyone to say a special thanks to God for answering our prayers for bringing little Shannon Dedrick back safe and healthy. She still needs our prayers that she will be given the chance to be with someone that can give her a normal life and a safe one.

Please continue praying for all the others that are still lost that need to be found and for those that have been taken from us. Pray that those will soon get the justice that they deserve.

For those that know me and read my articles, you know I have to name the list of children I have that we at BNN have reported on just to keep their names in print in hopes that it will keep them from being forgotten.

Caylee Anthony, Adji Desir, Haleigh Cummings, Somer Thompson, Elizabeth Olten, Masaraha Ross, Alex Mercado and Rebecca Marie Allen. They all need our prayers. God bless you all that care.

Jan Barrett





Can someone tell me if we have a thread for her and her Mom please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 07, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

Okay.  So the SA thought about it, but decided not to seek the death penalty.  Then, in April, the SA reversed their decision and did put the death penalty against KC on the table.  Got it.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 04:05:06 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 07, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 04:42:12 PM
I think the day that Keith Miller put the bag with the clothes, toys and the Fathers day balloon in Spindy's hands,  she absolutely knew that Caylee was in the woods. Even though she said they were not Caylee's, she knew. Weren't they also in a Disney bag?

No way do I think it was a plant for the Disney bag to be a the remains site. KC thought she was so smart, that everything would wash away and be cleansed in the process. She was familiar with the ebb and flow of the swamp where she left Caylee. Thus the smirks. I notice she isn't smirking so much the last few times in court. And I don't think it is because the Battlewagon is telling her to clean up her act. I just don't believe she thought so much was going to be found. EVER!

I still say Thank God for Krunk, whatever his motives. Can you imagine how many dollars Spindy and George could have REALLY drug in and how SYMPATHETIC they would be at this time? I am glad they are showing the crassness. I am glad they are showing their hard hearts. I am glad they are showing how materialistic they are. I am glad they are showing how KS got just the way she is! I am glad!!! Bad evil seed from bad evil people.   ::MonkeyMad::

Boy, you're not kidding!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 05:56:43 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!
There is no legal basis to support that statement that Strickland could pick and choose what to release on a discovery motion. Baez / Lyon will be filing a motion for those tests and if they are NOT released, there can be misconduct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: oldhippychik on November 07, 2009, 06:19:29 PM
Kat-Gram, is it possible that the test were given to the defense, but the Judge said they may not be released to the public? I don't know how these things work with the Sunshine Law. Ty for a response.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 07, 2009, 06:25:03 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!
There is no
 legal basis to support that statement that Strickland could pick and choose what to release on a discovery motion. Baez / Lyon will be filing a motion for those tests and if they are NOT released, there can be misconduct.
I don't know any thing about the laws but it sounded good to me.  Not sure how things work in that regard but thanks for those that do to let us know. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 07, 2009, 06:29:28 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 07, 2009, 07:08:27 PM
 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Hello monkeys, I hope everyone is well after that doc dump...I am just sad!!...I have a question,,,wasn't their a pharmacy receipt found at the site as well and could this possibly the receipt for the syringes???

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 07, 2009, 07:11:06 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!
There is no legal basis to support that statement that Strickland could pick and choose what to release on a discovery motion. Baez / Lyon will be filing a motion for those tests and if they are NOT released, there can be misconduct.

I agree Kat Gram...the State must release the evidence they have as it is asked for by the defense.  Meaning this is a cat and mouse game..the defense must ask  for the appropriate evidence to get the appropriate responses.  They can't go on a fishing expediation, they must ask for exactly what they want, not in broad terms. 

What makes it hard is their client is not cooperating with them..so they have to blindly ask for things to do with the home evidence, the vehicle evidence and the remains scene evidence. As well as other records, cell phone, ping data, text messages etc.

If Casey hasn't told them exactly what happened then they are left to ask broad questions..which means the State can supply only what is asked for..they need to supply no more.  So they are asking for the release of info from the scenes and then having to go from there to request reports and tests etc they think may have been done on the evidence.  That is why you are seeing requests for chain of custody of evidence and the clinical certifacation of the people examining the evidence.  Not only so later they can attack the chain of custody and the experts..but so they get a feel for what evidence the State has..so they can then ask further info for specific evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 07:18:06 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.
I was saying the death penalty was never brought to the table until April 13th. I never heard that they removed the murder 1 charge, can you lead me to that info please? That is quite interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 07, 2009, 07:20:15 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!
There is no legal basis to support that statement that Strickland could pick and choose what to release on a discovery motion. Baez / Lyon will be filing a motion for those tests and if they are NOT released, there can be misconduct.

I agree Kat Gram...the State must release the evidence they have as it is asked for by the defense.  Meaning this is a cat and mouse game..the defense must ask  for the appropriate evidence to get the appropriate responses.  They can't go on a fishing expediation, they must ask for exactly what they want, not in broad terms. 

What makes it hard is their client is not cooperating with them..so they have to blindly ask for things to do with the home evidence, the vehicle evidence and the remains scene evidence. As well as other records, cell phone, ping data, text messages etc.

If Casey hasn't told them exactly what happened then they are left to ask broad questions..which means the State can supply only what is asked for..they need to supply no more.  So they are asking for the release of info from the scenes and then having to go from there to request reports and tests etc they think may have been done on the evidence.  That is why you are seeing requests for chain of custody of evidence and the clinical certifacation of the people examining the evidence.  Not only so later they can attack the chain of custody and the experts..but so they get a feel for what evidence the State has..so they can then ask further info for specific evidence.

I misread the statement. Judge Strickland decides what is released to the public. My bad. Of course the defense knows every thing the State has, they could not defend their client properly if they didn't. Sorry for my misunderstanding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 07:21:06 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.

Yes, you're right Gypsy.  And as I recall the DP was removed after Baez obtained the services of an attorney to file a brief as to why the DP should not be imposed.  Shortly therereafter, the DP was removed from the possibilities by the SA.  (I hate the term "On the table.)This attorney whose name I don't recall, but he was a FL attorney, is experienced in filing papers as to why the DP should not be imposed.  It's in the documents from early on, but I don't have the time or inclination to search, also probably couldn't find it anyhow. Then, once the body was found, the DP was brought back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 07, 2009, 07:27:37 PM
Hi Monkeys! 

Am trying to figure out why a book/play on this case has already been allowed to be released, when they haven't even had the trial yet!  Is it because of the sunshine law? 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 07, 2009, 07:53:40 PM
Hi Monkeys! 

Am trying to figure out why a book/play on this case has already been allowed to be released, when they haven't even had the trial yet!  Is it because of the sunshine law? 





I guess it is freedom of speech, or if not that freedom of "art. Either way, it is disgusting.

O/T The way I am feeling today, I might have to borrow back the Smiley running around in circles.... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 08:13:39 PM
The stuff we will not see until the trial are the photos of the remains and all of the scene in the woods. The public might not even see them at trial.
What is usually held back is the investigators notes.
..
The syringe in the bottle might not have anything to do with this, there was just so much flotsam and unrelated garbage near the remains.
..
The cadaver dog hits in the backyard and the trunk, the smell in the car, the garbage from the car having grave wax, the flies, plus Neil Haskell's evidence: to me this is the forensic " junk science " lol that  is going to put her on death row. The duct tape that had Caylee's hair, the list is too long.
Plus all of the other stuff we have repeated over and over like Nancy Grace
about Tot Mom having a party while poor baby Caylee was in the woods being eaten by animals and her remains being infested by insects, etc.
Gee, I am making myself nauseated. Sleep well Cindy and George and Lee and Mallory. I need to go and wash those images from my brain. Cindy and George must have no real emotions or no real brains.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2009, 08:24:33 PM
OT -  Searching had asked if there was a thread for Roneyka Holmes and her 3 year old daughter Masaraha Ross.  I've started a thread in our missing persons forum: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6450.new#new 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 07, 2009, 08:27:05 PM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

I think Jesse too. Or Ricardo. I think KC stole the used syringe from one of them on July 3rd and planted it there in a plastic bag to preserve their fingerprints. She may not have used it to kill Caylee, but knowing that she used chloroform, and thinking that Caylees body would be found sooner than it ultimately was (in which case traces of chloroform may not have all dissipated), she probably put some of her chloroform cocktail into the syringe using gloves. I think she realized that day that the jig was up especially after Cindy went to Universal looking for her. She had to start her coverup. She was at both Ricardo's and Jesse's places on the 3rd. JMO, for now--subject to change from one second to the next!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 08:39:43 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::

He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2009, 08:41:01 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::

He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Indeed.  Tacky tats.   :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.
Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

I think Jesse too. Or Ricardo. I think KC stole the used syringe from one of them on July 3rd and planted it there in a plastic bag to preserve their fingerprints. She may not have used it to kill Caylee, but knowing that she used chloroform, and thinking that Caylees body would be found sooner than it ultimately was (in which case traces of chloroform may not have all dissipated), she probably put some of her chloroform cocktail into the syringe using gloves. I think she realized that day that the jig was up especially after Cindy went to Universal looking for her. She had to start her coverup. She was at both Ricardo's and Jesse's places on the 3rd. JMO, for now--subject to change from one second to the next!
Either one, that makes sense to me, it is hard for me to believe that she would leave that there to incriminate herself, to me that makes no sense, I think it was planted there, or it could be like some think it was just some random trash, but being there was chloroform in that bottle, that would really be some extremely bizarre coincidence. I still believe that Caylee either was strangled or drowned. And I thought for sometime that the high level of chloroform in the car was from the stellar job of cleaning that was done in that trunk. Not quite stellar, because you can never clean everything away, but George sure gave a pretty good go of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 07, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.
For me I can see that, some people think to keep Caylee quiet. But keeping the fluids from purging sure makes sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
What I find hard to comprehend is who on earth would want to see a play about this case????  How can a decent script be written?  And at this time???  The story is not complete yet.  How on earth can there be anything of entertainment value therein?  This is morbid and maudlin at best.  And this is not honoring Caylee, IMO.

What in the world would anyone derive from producing or seeing it?   What is there to gain?  ... This makes no sense to me, unless they are trying like heck to see if the audience can come up with various defense theories that they can float in court?    It is sickening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 09:02:17 PM
These documents were released as part of the discovery process as per Bozo's request. Why no fingerprint test result ? The State can't pick and chose what to release. 
True, but Judge Strickland can!
  I never thought of that but he sure can!
There is no legal basis to support that statement that Strickland could pick and choose what to release on a discovery motion. Baez / Lyon will be filing a motion for those tests and if they are NOT released, there can be misconduct.

I agree Kat Gram...the State must release the evidence they have as it is asked for by the defense.  Meaning this is a cat and mouse game..the defense must ask  for the appropriate evidence to get the appropriate responses.  They can't go on a fishing expediation, they must ask for exactly what they want, not in broad terms. 

What makes it hard is their client is not cooperating with them..so they have to blindly ask for things to do with the home evidence, the vehicle evidence and the remains scene evidence. As well as other records, cell phone, ping data, text messages etc.

If Casey hasn't told them exactly what happened then they are left to ask broad questions..which means the State can supply only what is asked for..they need to supply no more.  So they are asking for the release of info from the scenes and then having to go from there to request reports and tests etc they think may have been done on the evidence.  That is why you are seeing requests for chain of custody of evidence and the clinical certifacation of the people examining the evidence.  Not only so later they can attack the chain of custody and the experts..but so they get a feel for what evidence the State has..so they can then ask further info for specific evidence.

Would the defense have to specifically request print evidence of KC? And if they have asked and received, could be possible they are purposely not releasing the results because there's a match, and by doing so, their reasonable doubt tour would end? Or is it that whatever they request, becomes public, therefore, since we haven't seen it yet, they haven't requested it yet? Does this make sense?  ::MonkeyConfused:: I guess I'm asking would the defense really wait until trial to see if there are any prints linking KC to anything?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 07, 2009, 09:09:17 PM

Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

I think Jesse too. Or Ricardo. I think KC stole the used syringe from one of them on July 3rd and planted it there in a plastic bag to preserve their fingerprints. She may not have used it to kill Caylee, but knowing that she used chloroform, and thinking that Caylees body would be found sooner than it ultimately was (in which case traces of chloroform may not have all dissipated), she probably put some of her chloroform cocktail into the syringe using gloves. I think she realized that day that the jig was up especially after Cindy went to Universal looking for her. She had to start her coverup. She was at both Ricardo's and Jesse's places on the 3rd. JMO, for now--subject to change from one second to the next!
Either one, that makes sense to me, it is hard for me to believe that she would leave that there to incriminate herself, to me that makes no sense, I think it was planted there, or it could be like some think it was just some random trash, but being there was chloroform in that bottle, that would really be some extremely bizarre coincidence. I still believe that Caylee either was strangled or drowned. And I thought for sometime that the high level of chloroform in the car was from the stellar job of cleaning that was done in that trunk. Not quite stellar, because you can never clean everything away, but George sure gave a pretty good go of it.
I was always suspicous of her visit to Jesse's for a shower. Didn't Ricardo's place have a shower? She needed plenty of time to rummage around looking for something in the bathroom to frame Jesse with. The noise from the running shower would have masked any sounds of her opening cabinets or whatever. However, I think even if something was found at the crime scene that could be traced back to Jesse, it will backfire on KC, highlighting a failed frameup.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.

One theory of mine is the tape was applied so as to be viewed as part of the pretend kidnapping scenario pitched to the unsuspecting public/LE if & when her remains were discovered.   It could have had several uses to the murderer, actually.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 07, 2009, 09:12:59 PM
Gizzie: Great question. I'd like to understand this issue better.  Maybe the defense doesn't want to request all of the information because it may be disadvantageous in  negotiating a plea? If it becomes very apparent that she's totally guilty beyond any story they can create, the defense would be hard put to negotiate much beyond LWOP.  What do other Monkeys think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mgoblue on November 07, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.

One theory of mine is the tape was applied so as to be viewed as part of the pretend kidnapping scenario pitched to the unsuspecting public/LE if & when her remains were discovered.   It could have had several uses to the murderer, actually.

Yes, that makes sense also. This case drives me nuts! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 07, 2009, 09:19:47 PM
The stuff we will not see until the trial are the photos of the remains and all of the scene in the woods. The public might not even see them at trial.
What is usually held back is the investigators notes.
..
The syringe in the bottle might not have anything to do with this, there was just so much flotsam and unrelated garbage near the remains.
..
The cadaver dog hits in the backyard and the trunk, the smell in the car, the garbage from the car having grave wax, the flies, plus Neil Haskell's evidence: to me this is the forensic " junk science " lol that  is going to put her on death row. The duct tape that had Caylee's hair, the list is too long.
Plus all of the other stuff we have repeated over and over like Nancy Grace
about Tot Mom having a party while poor baby Caylee was in the woods being eaten by animals and her remains being infested by insects, etc.
Gee, I am making myself nauseated. Sleep well Cindy and George and Lee and Mallory. I need to go and wash those images from my brain. Cindy and George must have no real emotions or no real brains.
 
katgram
is it possible that the other anthonys are also just as narcassistic as casey and also be sociopaths. they lie just like her.I have never seen anything like it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 07, 2009, 09:20:30 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.

One theory of mine is the tape was applied so as to be viewed as part of the pretend kidnapping scenario pitched to the unsuspecting public/LE if & when her remains were discovered.   It could have had several uses to the murderer, actually.

If however it does turn out that the duct was applied prior to death, it was probably placed there to suffocate Caylee, after she was unconscious from chloroform or a sleep-inducing drug, so she wouldn't struggle. At least I hope she was unconcious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.

One theory of mine is the tape was applied so as to be viewed as part of the pretend kidnapping scenario pitched to the unsuspecting public/LE if & when her remains were discovered.   It could have had several uses to the murderer, actually.

Yes, that makes sense also. This case drives me nuts! ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::
It sure does, kidnapping scenario works also  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 09:27:44 PM
Gizzie: Great question. I'd like to understand this issue better.  Maybe the defense doesn't want to request all of the information because it may be disadvantageous in  negotiating a plea? If it becomes very apparent that she's totally guilty beyond any story they can create, the defense would be hard put to negotiate much beyond LWOP.  What do other Monkeys think?

I'm seriously starting to think they have to know something. Then I start thinking about the players on the defense side, and I wonder would they really put their names, or heck, even their careers on the line like this, knowing full well the SA has it bagged! I just don't know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2009, 09:28:01 PM
The stuff we will not see until the trial are the photos of the remains and all of the scene in the woods. The public might not even see them at trial.
What is usually held back is the investigators notes.
..
The syringe in the bottle might not have anything to do with this, there was just so much flotsam and unrelated garbage near the remains.
..
The cadaver dog hits in the backyard and the trunk, the smell in the car, the garbage from the car having grave wax, the flies, plus Neil Haskell's evidence: to me this is the forensic " junk science " lol that  is going to put her on death row. The duct tape that had Caylee's hair, the list is too long.
Plus all of the other stuff we have repeated over and over like Nancy Grace
about Tot Mom having a party while poor baby Caylee was in the woods being eaten by animals and her remains being infested by insects, etc.
Gee, I am making myself nauseated. Sleep well Cindy and George and Lee and Mallory. I need to go and wash those images from my brain. Cindy and George must have no real emotions or no real brains.
 
katgram
is it possible that the other anthonys are also just as narcassistic as casey and also be sociopaths. they lie just like her.I have never seen anything like it.
It is hard to imagine that an entire family can be like this, but it sure seems like that is the case. I'm curious what the chances are for a family to all be this way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 07, 2009, 10:18:33 PM
Hello Monkeys!!
I am curious if LE check all cameras on Target, Walmart, grocery stores...etc   ..to see if Casey at the moment to put all her stuffs in her car,  she put her shopping bags in the trunk or she always put them on the back sit of the car to put all her shopping(trying to avoid the trunk) , and also check if after she disposed the body she start using the trunk to put her shopping bags


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 10:26:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
There is no way in my mind that a murder of a 2yrs child is not cruel-I notice they did not say accident-because if it was an accident-you would feel remorse-you would be guilt ridden you would not be out partying-in other words you would not do any of the things that evil bitch did

He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.

O.k., how would Baez know if her murder was not calculated or cruel?  Was HE there?  Only someone who was there would know if it was calculated or cruel.  So what exactly does he know and who told him?  Casey, IMO.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 07, 2009, 10:27:18 PM
I think an entire family can be this way. Why not ? The apple does not fall far from the tree is a good expression that holds. If a woman like Cindy raised you a certain way and the Dad never stood up because there goes his meal tickie, why not ? There was a war going on in that house and since Cindy was the one paying the bills, she won. If abuse of any kind goes on in a house, the kids usually think that is normal and SOP. When they grow up and start their own relationships they will revert to what they think is normal. Not in all cases, people usually have to overcome this and do.
Grandma Shirley seems " normal" but how much was she there to provide an alternative role model. The four of them were a closed system without alot of outside influences. We don't see any family celebration pictures, like sit down dinners or friends or family around, why not ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: janetruth on November 07, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-28599-Crime--Media-Examiner~y2009m11d7-Casey-Anthony-documents-released-chloroform-found-near-Caylee-remains
Casey Anthony documents released: chloroform found near Caylee remains
November 7, 2:48 AMCrime & Media ExaminerJason Taylor
On Friday, prosecutors from the Florida State Attorney's Office released more than 2000 pages of documents in the Casey Anthony murder trial.

The documents include dozens of photographs from the woods where Caylee Anthony's remains were found along with DNA analysis results.

Among the evidence were pictures that show a syringe and a Gatorade bottle that were found near Caylee's remains, and a doll that was found in Casey’s white 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT.

The FBI reports that the syringe was found inside of a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit." The bag was found inside the Gatorade bottle.

The FBI reports that it found traces of chloroform in both the bottle and the syringe. The reports also indicate that the doll had traces of chloroform as well.

Casey is accused of murdering her 2-year-old daughter Caylee who disappeared in June 2008. Suspicions quickly arose around Caylee’s mother when it was revealed that Casey did not report her daughter missing, and lied about the child’s whereabouts.

The murder trial is slated to begin in June 2010. If convicted, Casey could face the death penalty.
Click here for video detailing new evidence.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJX9tyz2dc

I could be wrong (never having had to buy one myself), but "disposable syringe kit" sounds like something that was packaged for medical use, or EMS, maybe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 07, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/21512848/index.html
Legal analyst's comment on the motions filed.

Interesting comment from the Defense that Caylee, that  'her murder was not calculated or cruel'-  so they admit that she WAS murdered, just don't agree how......  hmm
Glad to see Bill Sheaffer is back at work, I love his commentary. He sounds so disgusted with Baez et al.
There is no way in my mind that a murder of a 2yrs child is not cruel-I notice they did not say accident-because if it was an accident-you would feel remorse-you would be guilt ridden you would not be out partying-in other words you would not do any of the things that evil bitch did

He does sound disgusted.
Does it sound like they might be trying for some lesser charge like manslaughter or something by saying "her murder was not calculated or cruel" or just yet another very poorly written motion? Her defense team is pathetic, just what she deserves.

O.k., how would Baez know if her murder was not calculated or cruel?  Was HE there?  Only someone who was there would know if it was calculated or cruel.  So what exactly does he know and who told him?  Casey, IMO.   

Possibly Casey did tell him ... but I always go back to my deeper question:  What murder is not calculated or cruel? It's murder ...  Murder is stealing an innocent person's life from them and is painful to the max I'm sure.  That is cruel.  Baez can't water that down and it's preposterous for him to try to do so. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 10:59:19 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.

Yes, you're right Gypsy.  And as I recall the DP was removed after Baez obtained the services of an attorney to file a brief as to why the DP should not be imposed.  Shortly therereafter, the DP was removed from the possibilities by the SA.  (I hate the term "On the table.)This attorney whose name I don't recall, but he was a FL attorney, is experienced in filing papers as to why the DP should not be imposed.  It's in the documents from early on, but I don't have the time or inclination to search, also probably couldn't find it anyhow. Then, once the body was found, the DP was brought back.

I remember now.  The DP lawyer's name is Terrence Lenaman or Lenamon from South Florida.  It came to me while I was out at dinner.  My companion thought I was nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 07, 2009, 11:01:27 PM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.

Yes, you're right Gypsy.  And as I recall the DP was removed after Baez obtained the services of an attorney to file a brief as to why the DP should not be imposed.  Shortly therereafter, the DP was removed from the possibilities by the SA.  (I hate the term "On the table.)This attorney whose name I don't recall, but he was a FL attorney, is experienced in filing papers as to why the DP should not be imposed.  It's in the documents from early on, but I don't have the time or inclination to search, also probably couldn't find it anyhow. Then, once the body was found, the DP was brought back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
Hi Monkeys. Thanks for all of the great and thoughtful posts. Not to be too graphic, but I have a question. Does anyone else think that the duct tape may have been applied to Caylee once her body started purging fluids in the trunk? It makes sense to me, but I'd sure appreciate other's opinions. Thanks.

**GRAPHIC ALERT- My Sensitive Monkey friends may want to skip this**

I don't want to be graphic either (nor have this on my mind close to beddy-by time), but someone else suggested that as well (I think the hinkymeter website or something like that).  I doubt that the tape was applied in response to bloating and purging.  While all duct tape is highly adhesive (and this one even more so being a commercial grade),  I don't think it would have adhered to already wet surfaces nor adhered for nearly 6 months in the heat, humidity, and wetness generated by the wrapping/storage/decomposition process.
O.k., forgive me for this.  Wrapping the facial area once the body was already bloated and purging would not have produced such a tightly wound, intact wrap around the skull once that bloated tissue was gone.  The ME's report was very specific about the tape being wrapped tightly enough to hold the lower jaw bone intact even after 6 months, as well as the hair mat...neither of which would have occurred if the body was already bloated and purging fluids.  Given the decomp process itself, the hurricane effects (water & wind jostling the bag), and known animal activity, that must have been a very tight wrap job, given how fragile skeletal bones are.  I'm sorry to be so graphic about this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 07, 2009, 11:04:44 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!

In regard to the fingerprints and such in the document dumps...IIRC way back in one of the motion hearings Bozo was whining about what the SA was releasing to him and the SA stated that they had not received some of the information from the FBI and could not give him something they did not have. He was informed that if he wanted it he would have to request it from the FBI himself. He was told if the FBI would release it to him they were fine with it, but if they didn't there was nothing they could do. The FBI is not subject to the Florida Sunshine Law.....so they maybe holding on to pertinent info that will not be released til trial. That is my understanding.

Thought I would stop in and help keep the conversation going for those you can't. Cindy and George do not know what they will be missing  in not having Caylee around. I had five of my babies overnight and all day. Just sent them home to their mommies and daddies. We had a glorious night and day!.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
**Sensitive Monkeys-you may want to scroll on**

Thinking through my previous post...the nose & mouth had to have been taped prior to bloating and purging (don't want to elaborate), which is why Dr. G. stated it the way she did in the ME's report.  That's why the wrap was still so tight and remained so intact...the pressure from the layers of tape forced the tissue to remain constricted, rather than bloating in that area.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
Gizzie: Great question. I'd like to understand this issue better.  Maybe the defense doesn't want to request all of the information because it may be disadvantageous in  negotiating a plea? If it becomes very apparent that she's totally guilty beyond any story they can create, the defense would be hard put to negotiate much beyond LWOP.  What do other Monkeys think?

mgoblue- Good observation!  You may be onto something here.  IMO, the defense is playing a chess game, requesting just enough evidence to get a feel for how much specific evidence and what type the state has.  They're walking a fine line if they're hoping to plea.  It's a delicate balance between getting enough disclosure to know when a plea would be a better deal for their client and getting too much, making a plea bargain a mute point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 07, 2009, 11:33:01 PM
O.k., I have a question here and maybe a more legal-eagle monkey can help me with this.  I seem to remember reading something that explained the disclosure of evidence to the defense process.  As I understood it, the state is required to provide only the evidence in it's possession, as it is specifically requested by the defense (sort of like playing "Go Fish"). IIRC, however, the release of evidence could be somewhat circumvented or delayed if the testing/lab results were "delayed".  Is that, in fact, true?  TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 11:44:14 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!

In regard to the fingerprints and such in the document dumps...IIRC way back in one of the motion hearings Bozo was whining about what the SA was releasing to him and the SA stated that they had not received some of the information from the FBI and could not give him something they did not have. He was informed that if he wanted it he would have to request it from the FBI himself. He was told if the FBI would release it to him they were fine with it, but if they didn't there was nothing they could do. The FBI is not subject to the Florida Sunshine Law.....so they maybe holding on to pertinent info that will not be released til trial. That is my understanding.

Thought I would stop in and help keep the conversation going for those you can't. Cindy and George do not know what they will be missing  in not having Caylee around. I had five of my babies overnight and all day. Just sent them home to their mommies and daddies. We had a glorious night and day!.

Hi Darla! Thank you! I do remember reading that now. It's been so long, I've forgotten so many things. Gives me hope again about a fingerprint. Glad you had a great time with your babies!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 07, 2009, 11:51:09 PM
**Sensitive Monkeys-you may want to scroll on**

Thinking through my previous post...the nose & mouth had to have been taped prior to bloating and purging (don't want to elaborate), which is why Dr. G. stated it the way she did in the ME's report.  That's why the wrap was still so tight and remained so intact...the pressure from the layers of tape forced the tissue to remain constricted, rather than bloating in that area.  JMO

Hello to you, ISpy, I was going to ask about the pressure keeping the tape intact, but you're theory makes sense, that the tissue remained constricted. And I remember reading it didn't take long at all until Caylee was fully decomposed. I think I read under 2 weeks? I was thinking that if a body had gone thru the normal rate of decomposing, the pressure would have been enough to maybe split the tape somewhere.  I'm curious if the gases would have the strength to do that...kinda.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 12:22:59 AM
JMO, but I'd be surprised if the state bargains on this case.  IMO, both Baez and the Anthonys have used the mainstream and local media to be excessively antagonistic toward Orange County LE, Texas Equisearch, the State's Attorney's Office, and Mark Nejame.  IMO, they've been casting aspersions and attempting character assassinations on them and scores of innocent people (Cindy's ridiculous and defamatory statements about Jesse Grund, Amy Huzienga, Ricardo Morales, Rev. Grund, Tim Miller, and all the people named in her now-released emailed "tips" to Dominic Casey).   Factoring in Cindy's email that she knowingly gave LE the wrong hairbrush and all of Cindy & George's discrepancies in their LE statements and varied depos, why should the state's attorneys bargain?  I'd be going for Accessory To/After The Fact, Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, etc. if it were me ("Grieving Grandparents", bah!).  Of course, the plethora of evidence + the Power Struggle-Revenge motive I believe LE will successfully establish per interviews of Casey's friends/Lee/George (particularly Lee, who's apparently only willing to go so far for Casey) doesn't hurt any either. ::MonkeyWink::
JMO, of course.

Sidenote: Personally, I think Lee loves his sister, but he's had enough.  IMO, he loves his parents and he's unwilling to allow Casey (by her behavior and emotional manipulation) to completely destroy them all.  I do, in an extremely miniscule way, admire his candor for at least being the only one to really disclose the true about Cindy and Casey's competitive, controlling, and combative relationship in both his LE and depo statements.  He neither denied it, nor minimized it.  He was careful to walk the fence by not laying blame solely on either.  I appreciated his willingness to stick his neck out in that instance.  **Of course, that doesn't excuse anything else.**  However, for those few fleeting minutes, I felt like he was a human being after all.  I mean, seriously, why did he tell the truth?  He could have just lied like Cindy & George did (MO).  What prompted him to even tell LE that Cindy & Casey had had a physical confrontation with Cindy choking Casey on June 15th?  Fear of the neighbors reporting the disturbance?  I kind of doubt that.  Lee doesn't strike me as the type of person to volunteer damaging info of that magnitude on his family to anyone.  Lee is a study in contrasts, IMO.  We have his raw honesty on a pretty damaging issue contrasted by the whole "C M A" debacle.  Was the "C M A" a tortured cry, resulting from the culmination of the massive havoc Casey had finally wreaked in their lives?  Don't we have some in-house Monkeys who can analyze this guy?             


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 12:26:24 AM
Good Evening Monkeys and guest!

In regard to the fingerprints and such in the document dumps...IIRC way back in one of the motion hearings Bozo was whining about what the SA was releasing to him and the SA stated that they had not received some of the information from the FBI and could not give him something they did not have. He was informed that if he wanted it he would have to request it from the FBI himself. He was told if the FBI would release it to him they were fine with it, but if they didn't there was nothing they could do. The FBI is not subject to the Florida Sunshine Law.....so they maybe holding on to pertinent info that will not be released til trial. That is my understanding.

Thought I would stop in and help keep the conversation going for those you can't. Cindy and George do not know what they will be missing  in not having Caylee around. I had five of my babies overnight and all day. Just sent them home to their mommies and daddies. We had a glorious night and day!.

Hi Darla! Thank you! I do remember reading that now. It's been so long, I've forgotten so many things. Gives me hope again about a fingerprint. Glad you had a great time with your babies!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Darla- thank you for bringing that up!  I thought that's kind of what I was remembering too.  Gizzie- Hey there!  Thanks for bringing this up.  Somehow, I missed Darla's post and I kept thinking I had read something about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 12:40:30 AM
**Sensitive Monkeys-you may want to scroll on**

Thinking through my previous post...the nose & mouth had to have been taped prior to bloating and purging (don't want to elaborate), which is why Dr. G. stated it the way she did in the ME's report.  That's why the wrap was still so tight and remained so intact...the pressure from the layers of tape forced the tissue to remain constricted, rather than bloating in that area.  JMO

Hello to you, ISpy, I was going to ask about the pressure keeping the tape intact, but you're theory makes sense, that the tissue remained constricted. And I remember reading it didn't take long at all until Caylee was fully decomposed. I think I read under 2 weeks? I was thinking that if a body had gone thru the normal rate of decomposing, the pressure would have been enough to maybe split the tape somewhere.  I'm curious if the gases would have the strength to do that...kinda.

Gizzie-I was wondering that too (not that I sit around and think of these things).  As long as I try to think about and analyze this in terms of scientific evidence, I can sort of think it through to a degree.  When it starts getting personal, I don't do well.  That's why I have respect for First-Responders, EMTs, Firemen/women, Police Officers, Rescue Personnel, ER Doctors and Nurses, Medical Examiners, Coroners, Crime Scene Photographers and Photography processors, etc.  My spouse doesn't quite understand why I feel the need to thank these people when I meet them out...because I have only a small clue of what they see in a day's time and they come right back the next day and do it again.   :smt038


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 08, 2009, 01:02:18 AM
JMO, but I'd be surprised if the state bargains on this case.  IMO, both Baez and the Anthonys have used the mainstream and local media to be excessively antagonistic toward Orange County LE, Texas Equisearch, the State's Attorney's Office, and Mark Nejame.  IMO, they've been casting aspersions and attempting character assassinations on them and scores of innocent people (Cindy's ridiculous and defamatory statements about Jesse Grund, Amy Huzienga, Ricardo Morales, Rev. Grund, Tim Miller, and all the people named in her now-released emailed "tips" to Dominic Casey).   Factoring in Cindy's email that she knowingly gave LE the wrong hairbrush and all of Cindy & George's discrepancies in their LE statements and varied depos, why should the state's attorneys bargain?  I'd be going for Accessory To/After The Fact, Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, etc. if it were me ("Grieving Grandparents", bah!).  Of course, the plethora of evidence + the Power Struggle-Revenge motive I believe LE will successfully establish per interviews of Casey's friends/Lee/George (particularly Lee, who's apparently only willing to go so far for Casey) doesn't hurt any either. ::MonkeyWink::
JMO, of course.

Sidenote: Personally, I think Lee loves his sister, but he's had enough.  IMO, he loves his parents and he's unwilling to allow Casey (by her behavior and emotional manipulation) to completely destroy them all.  I do, in an extremely miniscule way, admire his candor for at least being the only one to really disclose the true about Cindy and Casey's competitive, controlling, and combative relationship in both his LE and depo statements.  He neither denied it, nor minimized it.  He was careful to walk the fence by not laying blame solely on either.  I appreciated his willingness to stick his neck out in that instance.  **Of course, that doesn't excuse anything else.**  However, for those few fleeting minutes, I felt like he was a human being after all.  I mean, seriously, why did he tell the truth?  He could have just lied like Cindy & George did (MO).  What prompted him to even tell LE that Cindy & Casey had had a physical confrontation with Cindy choking Casey on June 15th?   Fear of the neighbors reporting the disturbance?  I kind of doubt that.  Lee doesn't strike me as the type of person to volunteer damaging info of that magnitude on his family to anyone.  Lee is a study in contrasts, IMO.  We have his raw honesty on a pretty damaging issue contrasted by the whole "C M A" debacle.  Was the "C M A" a tortured cry, resulting from the culmination of the massive havoc Casey had finally wreaked in their lives?  Don't we have some in-house Monkeys who can analyze this guy?             

ISpy, I totally missed somehow the part where he told LE about Cindy choking KC. Which deposition was it in? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:08:47 AM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:11:12 AM
I really do not think the SA will talk a deal. The defense has carried it to far. And I really truly don't think Casey will take a plea if one is offered. She thinks she is going to beat it. I believe the state has all they need to put her away for life or a death sentence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 08, 2009, 01:15:30 AM
JMO, but I'd be surprised if the state bargains on this case.  IMO, both Baez and the Anthonys have used the mainstream and local media to be excessively antagonistic toward Orange County LE, Texas Equisearch, the State's Attorney's Office, and Mark Nejame.  IMO, they've been casting aspersions and attempting character assassinations on them and scores of innocent people (Cindy's ridiculous and defamatory statements about Jesse Grund, Amy Huzienga, Ricardo Morales, Rev. Grund, Tim Miller, and all the people named in her now-released emailed "tips" to Dominic Casey).   Factoring in Cindy's email that she knowingly gave LE the wrong hairbrush and all of Cindy & George's discrepancies in their LE statements and varied depos, why should the state's attorneys bargain?  I'd be going for Accessory To/After The Fact, Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, etc. if it were me ("Grieving Grandparents", bah!).  Of course, the plethora of evidence + the Power Struggle-Revenge motive I believe LE will successfully establish per interviews of Casey's friends/Lee/George (particularly Lee, who's apparently only willing to go so far for Casey) doesn't hurt any either. ::MonkeyWink::
JMO, of course.

Sidenote: Personally, I think Lee loves his sister, but he's had enough.  IMO, he loves his parents and he's unwilling to allow Casey (by her behavior and emotional manipulation) to completely destroy them all.  I do, in an extremely miniscule way, admire his candor for at least being the only one to really disclose the true about Cindy and Casey's competitive, controlling, and combative relationship in both his LE and depo statements.  He neither denied it, nor minimized it.  He was careful to walk the fence by not laying blame solely on either.  I appreciated his willingness to stick his neck out in that instance.  **Of course, that doesn't excuse anything else.**  However, for those few fleeting minutes, I felt like he was a human being after all.  I mean, seriously, why did he tell the truth?  He could have just lied like Cindy & George did (MO).  What prompted him to even tell LE that Cindy & Casey had had a physical confrontation with Cindy choking Casey on June 15th?  Fear of the neighbors reporting the disturbance?  I kind of doubt that.  Lee doesn't strike me as the type of person to volunteer damaging info of that magnitude on his family to anyone.  Lee is a study in contrasts, IMO.  We have his raw honesty on a pretty damaging issue contrasted by the whole "C M A" debacle.  Was the "C M A" a tortured cry, resulting from the culmination of the massive havoc Casey had finally wreaked in their lives?  Don't we have some in-house Monkeys who can analyze this guy?             
ISpy, Excellent post(s). I think you are spot on about the duct tape. It was placed over her mouth prior to death or immediately after for the reasons you specified. At the memorial service when Lee made his CMA cry, I believe this was in reference to Caylee because he stated "I won't forget my promise to you." I think that promise to her early on was to find her killer. I have not seen him come to Casey's defense and his behavior has been the least toxic of that family. While Cindy and George were stretching wildly to explain the decomp in the car, the inappropriate partying of Casey, etc. he has been mostly silent. I think he initially believed the kidnapping story but at some point realized it was a fabrication. IMO Lee is far more complicated than his sister and parents and may come close to having a conscience. On the other hand he could simply be using avoidance as his main coping skill. The good Lord knows you would need that if you were a member of this family. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 08, 2009, 01:18:51 AM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.

Darla, thank you ! It makes me feel so much better to hear that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:22:10 AM
You are welcome. I remembered the motion hearing and when my son picked up the kids tonight I ask him about it. I hope it answered a few questions. You guys have a great night. I have got to go to bed...have my eyes propped open trying to catch up on the threads.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 01:26:01 AM
Our area's had several missing persons searches through the years and I think of those people who took/take their free time to search for people they didn't even know, with little to no regard for "What if I find them dead?".  Their first concern was/is finding the person and their second was/is bringing the family some resolution, some measure of relief from the not knowing.  I truly appreciate Tim Miller, Texas Equisearch, and all the many search organizations like them out there.  That takes an incredible amount of caring about about other people.  I don't expect Tim to be Superman.  I know he's a human being just like me.  I'm also well aware he's lost a child in the worst possible way.  I "absolutely" detested that Cindy Anthony felt the need to kick somebody in the teeth, who'd traveled five states to organize hundreds of strangers to look for her granddaughter, when each search must remind him of his own loss.  IMO, her unwarranted attack was motivated by anger and fear...Anger that Tim wasn't buying her & Casey's story and Fear that Tim and Co. might actually find Caylee: in her own neighborhood and with a "plethora" of evidence to convict Casey and maybe them also (Accessory After/Obstruction of Justice/Perjury, etc.).  Cindy clearly perceived Tim Miller as a threat the moment she realized she couldn't control him and the extent of the search...that Tim would search for Caylee period, dead or alive because he personally had to.  At that point, IMO, Cindy was clearly (and frantically) attempting to divert the investigation away from both a deceased Caylee and their neighborhood.  The only way to do so was to attack Tim's credibility.

Very soon, Cindy's going to reap what she sowed back upon herself when she's called to testify in Casey's trial.  It's going to make the Zenaida Gonzales depositions look like a walk in the park.  If she felt pressured (and her extremely defensive behavior clearly showed she did), she hasn't seen anything yet.  IMO, I would not be surprised if she & George are not being coached by Jim Lichtenstein  http://www.j2sc.com/jiml.htm (http://www.j2sc.com/jiml.htm) because their inability or unwillingness to control themselves in court is a liability to Casey.  I'm 99.99999% positive there have been discussions and advice to that effect between Baez and Conway.  Look at Cindy's latest state depos where Baez is forcefully telling Cindy to "Zip it.".  Baez does not want Cindy to testify in Casey's case, you can bet on it.  So, I think Jim's doing some prep work with Cindy (particularly) and George for Casey's trial.  We'll see.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 01:32:33 AM
Scatty- Looking for it now.  I'm using a loaner computer tonight-do it may take me a little bit.

Darla- Thank you for asking your son.  I knew I had read something to that effect.  Have a good evening/morning!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 01:57:50 AM
Blumonkey-  Good points!  I hope you're right about the Lee "C M A"-promise to Caylee thing.  You're more willing than I am to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe I need to work on that.  You do have a good point though.  He's far more forthcoming than anyone else in the family.  I've been of the opinion he's been willing to cover for Casey on other stuff, but he's not going to cover for her this time and he's definitely not willing to go to jail for her (as in perjury)...unlike George & Cindy.  JMO  I think, based on his ZG and LE depo statements (as well as his initial LE interview), he was suspicious and doubted Casey from the get-go.  He knows her best and accurately read her behavior (as evidenced by his own statements and his responses to her in her first call to home from jail-also why she refused to talk to him).  However, I think he honestly believed for awhile that Casey was either: 1. hiding Caylee with a friend and made up the kidnapping story to get back at Cindy or 2. Casey had given Caylee away/sold her.  I think he was going with option #1.  However, somewhere along the line, I do think he crossed over to Casey's side, with the jail code speak, the high-five with Casey for eluding reporters, repeating the fatherhood story to reporters, and playing junior detective with Dominic Casey.  Although, after Caylee was found, he really did try to play straight in the ZG depos, without coming right out and accusing Casey though.  I think he's somewhat between a rock and a hard place, as far as Casey goes.  He's unwilling to, in effect, destroy her because he does love her and he's "carried" her for years, but he can no longer defend her either.  He knew she was manipulating and self-serving, but even he didn't think she'd actually kill Caylee.  So, I think you're right-he just tries to avoid it as much as he can.  JMO         


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 02:07:25 AM
It's just really incredibly sad that the Anthony family are the way they are.  It didn't have to be this way.  It's far more important to parent children than to be friends with them.  If God wanted you to just be their friend, you would be and not their parent.  Not saying parents can't be friends, but if they're parents first, being a trusted adviser/listener/friend will follow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 08, 2009, 02:13:00 AM

Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

I think Jesse too. Or Ricardo. I think KC stole the used syringe from one of them on July 3rd and planted it there in a plastic bag to preserve their fingerprints. She may not have used it to kill Caylee, but knowing that she used chloroform, and thinking that Caylees body would be found sooner than it ultimately was (in which case traces of chloroform may not have all dissipated), she probably put some of her chloroform cocktail into the syringe using gloves. I think she realized that day that the jig was up especially after Cindy went to Universal looking for her. She had to start her coverup. She was at both Ricardo's and Jesse's places on the 3rd. JMO, for now--subject to change from one second to the next!
Either one, that makes sense to me, it is hard for me to believe that she would leave that there to incriminate herself, to me that makes no sense, I think it was planted there, or it could be like some think it was just some random trash, but being there was chloroform in that bottle, that would really be some extremely bizarre coincidence. I still believe that Caylee either was strangled or drowned. And I thought for sometime that the high level of chloroform in the car was from the stellar job of cleaning that was done in that trunk. Not quite stellar, because you can never clean everything away, but George sure gave a pretty good go of it.
I was always suspicous of her visit to Jesse's for a shower. Didn't Ricardo's place have a shower? She needed plenty of time to rummage around looking for something in the bathroom to frame Jesse with. The noise from the running shower would have masked any sounds of her opening cabinets or whatever. However, I think even if something was found at the crime scene that could be traced back to Jesse, it will backfire on KC, highlighting a failed frameup.

To be honest I don't think KC is all that bright, in spite of what her mother would have us believe. It is not a stretch for me to conclude that someone who leaves a maggoty plastic bag and used paper towels with grave wax on them in the trunk of a car, wouldn't think twice about shoving her daughter, plus what ever she used to kill her altogether and throwing it in the dense undergrowth.

HOWEVER...

If this was a frame up, then it could only have been done by KC before she was arrested or by her immediate family at some later date. Maybe the PI dropped it off in the general area and CA sent him to retrieve it when they realized it would do more to incriminate them than implicate another.

If this were the case then there a lot of people involved who are rather pleased that KC isn't talking. I bet she could bring the lot of them down were she so inclined.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 02:40:21 AM
BBL.  Scatty- gone looking for Lee's statement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 03:22:19 AM
Scatty- Here's where Leonard Padilla references Cindy & Casey's argument on June 15th.   http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910)

Need to hit the hay, but will try to find more tomorrow (Trimm on another monkey can probably find it for you faster though).  She's very organized and is great at finding fast facts.  You may want to ask later this morning.

Time for bed!  *children all over the world whining "Awwwww. Do I have to?"*  Hope you have a good morning, wherever you are.  God bless you!


Good Morning, Trimm!   ::MonkeyWink::     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 06:27:06 AM
Scatty- Here's where Leonard Padilla references Cindy & Casey's argument on June 15th.   http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910)

Need to hit the hay, but will try to find more tomorrow (Trimm on another monkey can probably find it for you faster though).  She's very organized and is great at finding fast facts.  You may want to ask later this morning.

Time for bed!  *children all over the world whining "Awwwww. Do I have to?"*  Hope you have a good morning, wherever you are.  God bless you!


Good Morning, Trimm!   ::MonkeyWink::     

Hey ISpy.   ::MonkeyBike::  I found where Leonard talks about it.Haven't found where Lee talks about it yet.
http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 06:27:51 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 07:22:41 AM
Scatty- Here's where Leonard Padilla references Cindy & Casey's argument on June 15th.   http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5441.msg851910#msg851910)

Need to hit the hay, but will try to find more tomorrow (Trimm on another monkey can probably find it for you faster though).  She's very organized and is great at finding fast facts.  You may want to ask later this morning.

Time for bed!  *children all over the world whining "Awwwww. Do I have to?"*  Hope you have a good morning, wherever you are.  God bless you!


Good Morning, Trimm!   ::MonkeyWink::     

Hey ISpy.   ::MonkeyBike::  I found where Leonard talks about it.Haven't found where Lee talks about it yet.
http://www.wftv.com/news/19507717/detail.html

Grund talks about fight allegation.
http://www.wesh.com/news/19129886/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 08, 2009, 07:29:52 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyFootball::

Back atcha trimm! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 07:48:53 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyFootball::

Back atcha trimm! ::MonkeyBike::

  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 07:52:46 AM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=445
Casey Anthony chloroform in syringe
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 7 - 2009

Casey Anthony Chloroform in Syringe


The shocking news that traces of chloroform was found in a syringe near Caylee Anthony’s skeletal remains has riveted the case to new proportions. It was revealed yesterday, amongst approximately 2000 documents, that the prosecution had the proverbially smoking gun all along. Theories flew out the window as soon as the images of the syringe and Gatorade bottle were made public. What was left was a more sinister picture of Casey Anthony than many dared realize.  As many tried to soften the reality of what might have happened to Caylee Anthony numerous theories and conjectures surfaced.


The first and most vocal of these may have been the theory given by Leonard Padilla himself. Night after night he would appear on the Nancy Grace show and give his supposed scenario regarding what happened to little Caylee Anthony. It had been released previously that Casey Anthony had searched for neck breaking and chloroform on her home computer (though the defense will point out that someone else might have been the one making those searches); the idea that Casey Anthony had used chloroform to sedate Caylee Anthony was frequently discussed. What hadn’t been discussed was the notion that Casey Anthony purposefully and brutally injected Caylee’s little two year old body with a syringe full of chloroform.


The Prosecution has been saving their best evidence for last and this is going to be hard for the defense to get around. No doubt, they’ll try. But no longer is the image of Casey trying to sedate Caylee so she can go out and party a relevant issue. The evidence screams premeditated murder and the proof is in the syringe.
Also found with the syringe was a Gatorade bottle that also showed traces of chloroform. It might be possible that the Defense is continuing to hold out on their most prized evidence: DNA. There is a great chance that the State has DNA evidence linking Casey to the Gatorade bottle and Caylee Anthony to the syringe. If not, it appears that they have more than enough evidence to convict.


They better hurry on finding that impartial jury for Casey’s trial. With the new upcoming play Tot Mom it appears Australia is out of the question. Maybe they should consider moving it to Antarctica.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 08, 2009, 08:34:52 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::     Move the trial to Antarctica and leave her butt down there to freeze to death.   Works for me.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 08:42:11 AM
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::     Move the trial to Antarctica and leave her butt down there to freeze to death.   Works for me.   ::MonkeyRoll::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 08, 2009, 08:47:56 AM
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::     Move the trial to Antarctica and leave her butt down there to freeze to death.   Works for me.   ::MonkeyRoll::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Good morning Everyone!   Trimm - thanks for the updates.     ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 08, 2009, 09:02:28 AM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.


Good info, thanks.    So basically, the best evidence is yet to come.     ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyJustice::

Its like the SA says to Bozo:    ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d7-Report-Zwinky-ad-with-Caylee-Anthony-image-removed-from-Web-fake-ad-remains-active-link-provided
Report: Zwinky ad with Caylee Anthony image removed from Web, fake ad remains active (link provided)
November 7, 7:29 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
Last week, it was reported that an advertisement for the Zwinky Web site featured a photo of slain toddler, Caylee Anthony. Zwinky is owned by Mindspark, a company based in White Plains, NY.

Hal Boedeker of the Orlando Sentinel wrote that a spokesperson for the company, Deborah Szajngarten, said “We knew nothing about it. Someone is using our brand against our wishes. We didn’t authorize this. We’re mortified. We are unbelievably disturbed.” She also said she had never heard of Caylee or the Casey Anthony case.

Casey, 23, is charged with the first-degree murder of Caylee—her 2-year-old daughter.
According to Boedeker, on Friday, the ad was still on the Web. Szajngarten said that Mindspark is “…working to get it shut down.” She added, “This is not what we’re looking for.”
To see the faux Zwinky ad, click here. http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.a/6a00d83451c3cb69e20120a65819a3970b-popup
Boedeker also noted that Zwinky ads have used images of other crime victims, including Stephanie Condon, an Oregon murder victim, and Natalee Holloway, a graduating high school senior who disappeared in Aruba several years ago.

Szajngarten reacted to this information by saying “That’s even more disturbing. We’re evaluating every possible option to the fullest extent of the law to have this shut down.”

Zwinky.com allows girls, 13-years and older, to enter a virtual world, where users can chat with friends, shop for Zwinky clothes, and play games.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 08, 2009, 09:12:48 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

The Gatorade bottle and a Syringe – Chemical Analysis

November 8th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 08, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
I was always suspicous of her visit to Jesse's for a shower. Didn't Ricardo's place have a shower? She needed plenty of time to rummage around looking for something in the bathroom to frame Jesse with. The noise from the running shower would have masked any sounds of her opening cabinets or whatever. However, I think even if something was found at the crime scene that could be traced back to Jesse, it will backfire on KC, highlighting a failed frameup.

Just me - but I always thought the reason KC went to Jesse's house for a shower was because she really did need a body wash/shower after having sex with someone other than her boyfriend.   Maybe she had just turned a trick (she was hard-up for money) or maybe she had just had a quickie with one of her many "friends"  (Tony R. comes to mind), and needed to refresh herself.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 08, 2009, 09:26:12 AM
What I find hard to comprehend is who on earth would want to see a play about this case????  How can a decent script be written?  And at this time???  The story is not complete yet.  How on earth can there be anything of entertainment value therein?  This is morbid and maudlin at best.  And this is not honoring Caylee, IMO.

What in the world would anyone derive from producing or seeing it?   What is there to gain?  ... This makes no sense to me, unless they are trying like heck to see if the audience can come up with various defense theories that they can float in court?    It is sickening.

I agree.   I wouldn't waste my money going to this play.       ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 08, 2009, 10:20:40 AM
What I find hard to comprehend is who on earth would want to see a play about this case????  How can a decent script be written?  And at this time???  The story is not complete yet.  How on earth can there be anything of entertainment value therein?  This is morbid and maudlin at best.  And this is not honoring Caylee, IMO.

What in the world would anyone derive from producing or seeing it?   What is there to gain?  ... This makes no sense to me, unless they are trying like heck to see if the audience can come up with various defense theories that they can float in court?    It is sickening.

I agree.   I wouldn't waste my money going to this play.       ::MonkeyNoNo::
I predict a huge wave of apathy from Australian theater goers.. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 08, 2009, 10:22:57 AM
I was always suspicous of her visit to Jesse's for a shower. Didn't Ricardo's place have a shower? She needed plenty of time to rummage around looking for something in the bathroom to frame Jesse with. The noise from the running shower would have masked any sounds of her opening cabinets or whatever. However, I think even if something was found at the crime scene that could be traced back to Jesse, it will backfire on KC, highlighting a failed frameup.

Just me - but I always thought the reason KC went to Jesse's house for a shower was because she really did need a body wash/shower after having sex with someone other than her boyfriend.   Maybe she had just turned a trick (she was hard-up for money) or maybe she had just had a quickie with one of her many "friends"  (Tony R. comes to mind), and needed to refresh herself.   
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I always thought it was a fishing expedition- she was either trying to take something from his bathroom to dump with Caylee, or was going to leave something with the hope the LE would search and find something implicating...  If anything found with the remains can be traced back to JG we shall know which it was.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 08, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
The State announced that they would seek the DP against Casey on April 13th. It was never on the table before that. The murder 1 charge can bring either LWOP or the DP. I think without the body being found, they decided not to seek the DP......of course that all changed after they found her and evidence that linked her death back to Casey and the Anthony home.

With all due respect the murder  one charge was on the table after the Grand Jury.  It was then removed for some reason..and once the body was found was reinstated.

Yes, you're right Gypsy.  And as I recall the DP was removed after Baez obtained the services of an attorney to file a brief as to why the DP should not be imposed.  Shortly therereafter, the DP was removed from the possibilities by the SA.  (I hate the term "On the table.)This attorney whose name I don't recall, but he was a FL attorney, is experienced in filing papers as to why the DP should not be imposed.  It's in the documents from early on, but I don't have the time or inclination to search, also probably couldn't find it anyhow. Then, once the body was found, the DP was brought back.

I remember the name of the DP qualified attorney from South Florida.  Terrence Lenamon or Lenaman.  I also believe this was long after the body was found, maybe April or May, but I could be wrong on that.  IMO the DP was brought back because some of the analyses of the evidence was returned to  SA and it indicated premeditation or cruel or heinous and of course, the victim was younger than 12 which can bring other laws into play.  What ever it was, it was enough to bring back the DP in the opinion of SA. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 10:26:03 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

The Gatorade bottle and a Syringe – Chemical Analysis

November 8th, 2009
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 08, 2009, 10:26:28 AM
Any one know if Jesse Grund was into body building?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 08, 2009, 11:13:12 AM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.

That is my understanding also. The defense will be filing a motion to produce that specific test. IMO And they will do it soon. If it was  "flotsam" from the area with DNA belonging to no one that could be identified, well then the Phantom Nanny did it and there will be a party at Bozo's house. There was alot of garbage at that scene, not everything there was related to this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 08, 2009, 11:37:22 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

The Gatorade bottle and a Syringe – Chemical Analysis

November 8th, 2009

Oooooh Nooooo! ::MonkeyEek:: I hope this person is wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 11:56:20 AM
After reading everything and Blink's site I believe the bag was planted. The gatorade bottle looked to new to have been out in the elements that long, someone is being framed imo.

Hmm, how so? The items were picked up when Caylee's little body was found. That would mean that the evidence had to have been placed there by someone who knew where she was buried,  before Roy Kronk or anyone else found the body. Interestingly if you are saying that someone else knew and PLANTED evidence after the car was processed and before her body was found, then that implies others knew KC had killed her daughter and where she was placed. The only people who fit this description are the parents. In this scenario the crime scene would be compromised before anyone knew she was dead. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion would like to hear more on this theory.
I am just simply stating that I believe there is more to this bag then what meets the eye. And I would have no trouble leaping to the Anthonys knowing where Caylee was the whole time, I just don't trust any of them. Guess we will have to wait until trial.

Hi Moneys!  As usual, trying to catch up here and again as usual, always impressed by everybody's thoughts and views! Love my Monkeys! This is all truly beyond comprehension and I'm speechless as usual.  But I believe it is a good idea for anybody, such as Rose, play "Devils Advocate" and bring other thoughts and ideas to light.  We know the defense is going to have 'something' to say, so it's a good idea to cover every avenue.  I do agree, there is more than likely, the SA has more than we know about, so this will eventually be brought out, one way or another, but this is a very valid question, though it may be hard to swallow, it is still something the defense will or can bring up.  So need to cover every base.  Back to catching up.  You all never cease to amaze me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 12:22:19 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::

He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Indeed.  Tacky tats.   :smt045 :smt045

I have a question.  I've been reading about these tats and thought I'd seen all pics from the cruise, but I swear I don't remember seeing pics of these tats, being talked about.  Can somebody, please provide me a link or a pic of them?  I'm really curious to see them.  Oh CA and GA make me soooo sick!  ::MonkeyNoNo::  tia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.


Makes perfect sense Darla! Thank you!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 12:31:34 PM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.


Wouldn't that be cool if the FBI DOES have the print, and the SA knows it, and all they can say to the defense is nanny nanny boo boo, we got you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 08, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::



http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/ (http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/)

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Indeed.  Tacky tats.   :smt045 :smt045

I have a question.  I've been reading about these tats and thought I'd seen all pics from the cruise, but I swear I don't remember seeing pics of these tats, being talked about.  Can somebody, please provide me a link or a pic of them?  I'm really curious to see them.  Oh CA and GA make me soooo sick!  ::MonkeyNoNo::  tia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: espresso on November 08, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 12:52:31 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 01:02:41 PM
Good afternoon. The syringe and the Gatorade bottle has haunted me since Friday. I don't think it was a plant. The Gatorade bottle looked newer because it was protected somewhat by the Disney bag from the elements.

The duct tape was the cou de gras for KC to make sure if the chloroform injection didn't kill Caylee right away, she would be sure not be able to scream during her seizures and pain, and not be able to breath. KC probably knew nothing of purging fluids, not did she care. KC was simply getting rid of the "big problem in a little package". She had no love for Caylee, she was everything KC wasn't at that point in her life with her family and friends and getting all the attention that KC was not. This was a rage murder and she wanted her victim to suffer. KC no doubtedly loved to watch her die, and savored it in her memory, even today. 

It has been haunting my thoughts ever since I read the docs of Friday....
This is the rough part of the road for me. I knew it was coming. I didn't realize how bad it was going to throw me, and how bad it was going to bruise me up.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:06:39 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::


Walmart has some really pretty one for $9.99. But the ones George had were kind of big so maybe he splurged for a $19.99 pair. Who knows, those folks are beyond tacky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 01:10:46 PM
 Blink, I found your last article about the docs very informative, and I especially found your response to comment 228 very interesting, and can't wait to hear more on that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:11:02 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:12:58 PM
Good afternoon. The syringe and the Gatorade bottle has haunted me since Friday. I don't think it was a plant. The Gatorade bottle looked newer because it was protected somewhat by the Disney bag from the elements.

The duct tape was the cou de gras for KC to make sure if the chloroform injection didn't kill Caylee right away, she would be sure not be able to scream during her seizures and pain, and not be able to breath. KC probably knew nothing of purging fluids, not did she care. KC was simply getting rid of the "big problem in a little package". She had no love for Caylee, she was everything KC wasn't at that point in her life with her family and friends and getting all the attention that KC was not. This was a rage murder and she wanted her victim to suffer. KC no doubtedly loved to watch her die, and savored it in her memory, even today. 

It has been haunting my thoughts ever since I read the docs of Friday....
This is the rough part of the road for me. I knew it was coming. I didn't realize how bad it was going to throw me, and how bad it was going to bruise me up.   

 :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 01:20:05 PM
Blink, I found your last article about the docs very informative, and I especially found your response to comment 228 very interesting, and can't wait to hear more on that.

I guess I haven't read the last Blink article on the docs that impressed you so. I have gone back and tried to find it. Could you or Bink kindly direct me to it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:25:27 PM
Blink, I found your last article about the docs very informative, and I especially found your response to comment 228 very interesting, and can't wait to hear more on that.

I guess I haven't read the last Blink article on the docs that impressed you so. I have gone back and tried to find it. Could you or Bink kindly direct me to it?


Not NoRose or Blink, but thought I'd help you out...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/#comments

# Comment by Word Girl — November 7, 2009 @ 1:37 am

Those documents felt like an extra large funeral pall for a an extra small little girl…Tristesse.

I’m thinking tattoo parlor bathroom for a testosterone-laced needle. Or someone’s bathroom.
Just gotta do as Winnie-the-Pooh says, “Think, think, think.”

What say you, Blink, blink, blink?

I say its related to Casey and this case. I say she put it there to frame someone, and I say there is more to come on this connection. wink, wink, wink.
B


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 08, 2009, 01:28:55 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe, cos 20,000, {3 going to conman} so 17,000 doesn't go that far when you are getting tats, cruising and gambling. I would be surprised if there were enough left over for CZ's.

Maybe they are Austrian crystal  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
Blink, I found your last article about the docs very informative, and I especially found your response to comment 228 very interesting, and can't wait to hear more on that.

I guess I haven't read the last Blink article on the docs that impressed you so. I have gone back and tried to find it. Could you or Bink kindly direct me to it?


Not NoRose or Blink, but thought I'd help you out...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/#comments

# Comment by Word Girl — November 7, 2009 @ 1:37 am

Those documents felt like an extra large funeral pall for a an extra small little girl…Tristesse.

I’m thinking tattoo parlor bathroom for a testosterone-laced needle. Or someone’s bathroom.
Just gotta do as Winnie-the-Pooh says, “Think, think, think.”

What say you, Blink, blink, blink?

I say its related to Casey and this case. I say she put it there to frame someone, and I say there is more to come on this connection. wink, wink, wink.
B


Thank you GIZZIE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
Ispy and Gizzie, my son is LE ...not in Fla. but I ask him some questions and he said as long as the SA does not have the written info from the FBI Bozo can't compel them to produce it. The FBI has their own set of rules and can hold evidence til trial. The SA's can be aware of what they have but as long as they don't have the paper work, Bozo can't make them produce it. I hope that makes sense.


Wouldn't that be cool if the FBI DOES have the print, and the SA knows it, and all they can say to the defense is nanny nanny boo boo, we got you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:35:16 PM

Thank you GIZZIE.

You are very welcome! I'm just bored, looking for excuses not to get my butt in gear, so thought I'd get it for ya!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 01:36:27 PM
Blink, I found your last article about the docs very informative, and I especially found your response to comment 228 very interesting, and can't wait to hear more on that.

I guess I haven't read the last Blink article on the docs that impressed you so. I have gone back and tried to find it. Could you or Bink kindly direct me to it?


Not NoRose or Blink, but thought I'd help you out...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/#comments

# Comment by Word Girl — November 7, 2009 @ 1:37 am

Those documents felt like an extra large funeral pall for a an extra small little girl…Tristesse.

I’m thinking tattoo parlor bathroom for a testosterone-laced needle. Or someone’s bathroom.
Just gotta do as Winnie-the-Pooh says, “Think, think, think.”

What say you, Blink, blink, blink?

I say its related to Casey and this case. I say she put it there to frame someone, and I say there is more to come on this connection. wink, wink, wink.
B


I'm with Blink.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 01:37:51 PM

Thank you GIZZIE.

You are very welcome! I'm just bored, looking for excuses not to get my butt in gear, so thought I'd get it for ya!  ::MonkeyKiss::

I have been busy and keep coming back to see if winking Blink has any news.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 01:39:52 PM
Good afternoon. The syringe and the Gatorade bottle has haunted me since Friday. I don't think it was a plant. The Gatorade bottle looked newer because it was protected somewhat by the Disney bag from the elements.

The duct tape was the cou de gras for KC to make sure if the chloroform injection didn't kill Caylee right away, she would be sure not be able to scream during her seizures and pain, and not be able to breath. KC probably knew nothing of purging fluids, not did she care. KC was simply getting rid of the "big problem in a little package". She had no love for Caylee, she was everything KC wasn't at that point in her life with her family and friends and getting all the attention that KC was not. This was a rage murder and she wanted her victim to suffer. KC no doubtedly loved to watch her die, and savored it in her memory, even today. 

It has been haunting my thoughts ever since I read the docs of Friday....
This is the rough part of the road for me. I knew it was coming. I didn't realize how bad it was going to throw me, and how bad it was going to bruise me up.   

Bothered me too Fanny.I have had it on my mind all weekend.   :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
If you just click on crime at the top of the page it will take you straight to Blink's site.

I hope Blink winks soon! hint hint!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 01:41:00 PM

Thank you GIZZIE.

You are very welcome! I'm just bored, looking for excuses not to get my butt in gear, so thought I'd get it for ya!  ::MonkeyKiss::

I have been busy and keep coming back to see if winking Blink has any news.   ::MonkeyRoll::
Me too, I hope she can tell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
Reading more of Blinks comments, and I found this one to be interesting as well. Don't like it, but hmmm...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/06/cayleecasey-anthony-case-new-discovery-released/#comments

# Comment by Todd in Tulsa — November 7, 2009 @ 10:27 am

Speaking of plea deal, if Casey was to plea out, what is the minimum sentence required by law? Would that be LWOP?
depends on when it was accepted. If she waits until a felony conviction in the fraud trial, probably.

If she pleas before, and as I have stated already, cops to the entire incident without any remaining questions, etc and it can be corroberated, I do think she might get 25-life with the possibility of parole, and concurrent with the result of the fraud charges. What I dont think alot of people realize is how this dinky fraud trial going PRIOR to the murder trial is HUGE.. If it was to occur after the murder trial, there is a bevy of evidence and witnesses that I promise you the state would not be able to use in the murder trial.
B



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:41:19 PM
NRCG...whenever you can get into your email...check it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2009, 01:43:04 PM
Good afternoon. The syringe and the Gatorade bottle has haunted me since Friday. I don't think it was a plant. The Gatorade bottle looked newer because it was protected somewhat by the Disney bag from the elements.

The duct tape was the cou de gras for KC to make sure if the chloroform injection didn't kill Caylee right away, she would be sure not be able to scream during her seizures and pain, and not be able to breath. KC probably knew nothing of purging fluids, not did she care. KC was simply getting rid of the "big problem in a little package". She had no love for Caylee, she was everything KC wasn't at that point in her life with her family and friends and getting all the attention that KC was not. This was a rage murder and she wanted her victim to suffer. KC no doubtedly loved to watch her die, and savored it in her memory, even today. 

It has been haunting my thoughts ever since I read the docs of Friday....
This is the rough part of the road for me. I knew it was coming. I didn't realize how bad it was going to throw me, and how bad it was going to bruise me up.   

Fanny I agree this lastest doc dump has been gruesome to read.  I was impressed vy the wording that was used, how gentle and carefullythey did there research and findings, and the resppect they paid to the deceased.

I also agree that with all the research on how to perform murder with household contents, she did little thinking about the outcome of the remains.  I think she probably knew there would be some purging of fluids, but didn't understand the ectent of it.  I think if she had known she would have put Caylee in a large Rubbermaid box..to help keep the smell and fluids in check.  Instead she choose trash bags and a laundry bag later and they just didn't do the trick.  Whicih is where I think she lost it..she needed to get rid of the body quickly because it smelled so bad and was attracting flies to outside of her car....I am sure they were swarming by the trunk before she got rid of the body.  So she quckly tosses the body and anything else she feels in need to toss and goes on her merry way to try to clean the trunk.  But it still smells..hence the trash bag from Tony's apt, the fabric softener sheets..and parking by the dumpster at Amscott.  She was hoping the car would be stolen , but it wasn't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 01:43:09 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::



http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/ (http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/)

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Indeed.  Tacky tats.   :smt045 :smt045

I have a question.  I've been reading about these tats and thought I'd seen all pics from the cruise, but I swear I don't remember seeing pics of these tats, being talked about.  Can somebody, please provide me a link or a pic of them?  I'm really curious to see them.  Oh CA and GA make me soooo sick!  ::MonkeyNoNo::  tia

Thanks Espresso. I thought there was a pic floating around of the tats. I did see the diamond stud on GA and it looks ridiculous, especially  for a man his age.  It's too big! Mid life crisis? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
I have always wondered if she put the gas cans in the back of the car to try to cover some of the smell. The fumes from gas can overpower alot of odors...but not decomp.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 08, 2009, 01:53:16 PM
Have a good day, all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
What I find hard to comprehend is who on earth would want to see a play about this case????  How can a decent script be written?  And at this time???  The story is not complete yet.  How on earth can there be anything of entertainment value therein?  This is morbid and maudlin at best.  And this is not honoring Caylee, IMO.

What in the world would anyone derive from producing or seeing it?   What is there to gain?  ... This makes no sense to me, unless they are trying like heck to see if the audience can come up with various defense theories that they can float in court?    It is sickening.

I agree.   I wouldn't waste my money going to this play.       ::MonkeyNoNo::
I predict a huge wave of apathy from Australian theater goers.. ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  We can only hope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 01:54:14 PM
You too Gizie...I have to get some things done also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 01:57:30 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  On special ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Wonder why we haven't heard anything from the duh fense, since they had this info days before we did? Every other time we've gotten documents, they've been there spewing their theories, but this time, nada. I'm really curious what they're gonna try and come up with now.
And nothing from Conway either  ::MonkeyRoll::



http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/ (http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/)

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



He said the other day that the Anthony's tats were not expensive.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

He missed the point-they're tacky!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Indeed.  Tacky tats.   :smt045 :smt045

I have a question.  I've been reading about these tats and thought I'd seen all pics from the cruise, but I swear I don't remember seeing pics of these tats, being talked about.  Can somebody, please provide me a link or a pic of them?  I'm really curious to see them.  Oh CA and GA make me soooo sick!  ::MonkeyNoNo::  tia
I'm sure glad that the A's are living high on the hog with the blood money from their granddaughters murder.  Cruise, diamond earrings, tatoos!  Like I said before thier dream came true.  They don't have to work anymore thanks to thier daughter killing Caylee!  They make me want to throw up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 08, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
I have always wondered if she put the gas cans in the back of the car to try to cover some of the smell. The fumes from gas can overpower alot of odors...but not decomp.

I have been worrying on no rose's statement about this evidence being planted, it isn't difficult to imagine KC going to the home of Jesse to get evidence to "frame" him. I do have issue with her coming up with that Idea, perhaps her parents sent her there because she told them what she did. They were the ones with enough knowledge to have sent her to get evidence for the frame up.
Of course this would mean that they knew long before July and before the so called reporting to the police. So the whole thing could have been set up to get her off from the very beginning.....
                                                                            ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 02:02:47 PM
NRCG...whenever you can get into your email...check it.
Check yours also  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 02:06:20 PM
If you just click on crime at the top of the page it will take you straight to Blink's site.

I hope Blink winks soon! hint hint!

Me too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  On special ...

Absolutely!  That's what they look like!  They look so tacky and ridiculous.  I'm surprised Spindy "allowed" him to get them and walk around looking like a ridiculous man, in Mid Life Crisis.  Especially at a time like this.  OH MY, what will the neighbors think?  Oh yeah,  she doesn't give a crap what people think!  She's made a fool of herself. But she does control everybody else's actions, especially his..... just saying....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 02:07:38 PM
The diamond studs were probably just CZ's lol
From QVC  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  On special ...

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 02:08:38 PM
LOL,  the studs on him, remind me of a little girl playing dress up.  But they will never get to see that again!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
I've been thinking about what I read on here and I think there might be something to the tatoo parlor.  Casey went there a lot prior to her last tatoo.  We know that she searched for ways to make chloroform on the internet months prior to Caylee's murder so she could have got some used needles from there and stashed them until she was ready. 

Just thinking out loud. 

This is all so very upsetting to me.  I haven't been on her for so long as my computer is so slow but ever since the news on Friday I needed to see what you all think about the latest documents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 02:15:45 PM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=468
Zwinky ad featuring Caylee Anthony horrifies company: Mindspark orders cease and desist
Posted by Melissa Finlay  On November - 7 - 2009
(http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/wp-content/uploads/Caylee-Anthony.jpg)
Caylee Anthony’s image appeared on a fake ad for Zwinky.com. Zwinky is a social netowrking website geared towards girls thirteen and older. 

The parent company, Mindspark,  is not amused by what appears to be someone’s sick practical joke and stated that once they identify who created the ad, they will order a cease and desist.

Apparently, they located the culprit and the original ad has since been removed. The original ad was located here Click here and is no longer accessible.The images that are now circulating the web are old snapshots of the original ad and are not the original image from Zwinky.com.

Neither Mindspark nor Zwinky had any involvement in creating the fake ad. It was not made from a user from the Zwinky site as the image that was previously uploaded did not originate from Zwinky or Mindspark’s servers.

Not only did the creator of the Caylee Anthony Zwinky ad devise an ad that was in poor taste, they also embarked upon copyright and trademark infringement.

“We knew nothing about it.   Someone is using our brand against our wishes. We didn’t authorize this. We’re mortified. We are unbelievably disturbed.” said Mindspark spokeswoman Deborah Szajngarten.
Caylee Anthony disappeared on June 15, 2008. Her remains were found six months later in a wooded area near her grandparents’ home. Casey Anthony, her mother, has been charged with first degree murder and if convicted faces the death penalty.

Yesterday, numerous documents were released pertaining to Casey Anthony’s trial. The media coverage surrounding Caylee Anthony’s disappearance has been vast. The case has captivated the public worldwide.
Mindspark Advertising http://www.mindsparkadvertising.com/sales/websites/zwinky/index.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 02:26:15 PM
Hi Monkeys! 

Am trying to figure out why a book/play on this case has already been allowed to be released, when they haven't even had the trial yet!  Is it because of the sunshine law? 





I guess it is freedom of speech, or if not that freedom of "art. Either way, it is disgusting.

O/T The way I am feeling today, I might have to borrow back the Smiley running around in circles.... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Anytime!!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/runcircles.gif)

This is one busy lil guy, needed in many of our threads!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
I have read Blinks article and the comments. I do no think KC ever returned to the site where she put Caylee to begin with on Suburban drive to "plant" anything. If it was put there, it was put there in the beginning. As soon as the deed was done, she was off to her new life, and probably never even drove down to Suburban Drive to go in and out of the neighborhood when she came home to get clean clothes and replenish her supplies of whatever she needed to steal take for her own pleasure. After the dumping of Caylee's body, her BELLA VITA had started. I doubt for a moment she did another thing to cover her tracks. It was done in her mind. Wink, wink.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Hi Monkeys! 

Am trying to figure out why a book/play on this case has already been allowed to be released, when they haven't even had the trial yet!  Is it because of the sunshine law? 





I guess it is freedom of speech, or if not that freedom of "art. Either way, it is disgusting.

O/T The way I am feeling today, I might have to borrow back the Smiley running around in circles.... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Anytime!!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/runcircles.gif)

This is one busy lil guy, needed in many of our threads!  lol


Thank you. My state of mind is not getting any better.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 02:33:27 PM
I have read Blinks article and the comments. I do no think KC ever returned to the site where she put Caylee to begin with on Suburban drive to "plant" anything. If it was put there, it was put there in the beginning. As soon as the deed was done, she was off to her new life, and probably never even drove down to Suburban Drive to go in and out of the neighborhood when she came home to get clean clothes and replenish her supplies of whatever she needed to steal take for her own pleasure. After the dumping of Caylee's body, her BELLA VITA had started. I doubt for a moment she did another thing to cover her tracks. It was done in her mind. Wink, wink.
I agree with you too Fanny!  I don't think anyone planted anything.  If it was used to murder Caylee then the slore left it there.  I think the tattoo, "Beautiful Life" meant that she was going to have one now.  Not that Caylee had one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
She had to go on Suburban to get to the house. She could have thrown the botle out of the window as close as Caylee was to the road.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 02:46:37 PM
It's just really incredibly sad that the Anthony family are the way they are.  It didn't have to be this way.  It's far more important to parent children than to be friends with them.  If God wanted you to just be their friend, you would be and not their parent.  Not saying parents can't be friends, but if they're parents first, being a trusted adviser/listener/friend will follow.

ISpy, thank you for this and your other well-thought-out, excellent posts.  I always look forward to reading what you post.  It kicks my brain into gear and gets me thinking thinking... thank you for that!  Often your posts lead to other monkeys digging in and thinking deeper and even out of the box.  We have great monkeys in here, with so many excellent posts, it's hard to keep up at times!  My brain gets a workout, that's for sure!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

<monkey hugs to you, and all>



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 08, 2009, 02:58:09 PM
I have read Blinks article and the comments. I do no think KC ever returned to the site where she put Caylee to begin with on Suburban drive to "plant" anything. If it was put there, it was put there in the beginning. As soon as the deed was done, she was off to her new life, and probably never even drove down to Suburban Drive to go in and out of the neighborhood when she came home to get clean clothes and replenish her supplies of whatever she needed to steal take for her own pleasure. After the dumping of Caylee's body, her BELLA VITA had started. I doubt for a moment she did another thing to cover her tracks. It was done in her mind. Wink, wink.
I agree with you too Fanny!  I don't think anyone planted anything.  If it was used to murder Caylee then the slore left it there.  I think the tattoo, "Beautiful Life" meant that she was going to have one now.  Not that Caylee had one.
I too agree with fanny mae out of sight out of mind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 02:58:28 PM
She had to go on Suburban to get to the house. She could have thrown the botle out of the window as close as Caylee was to the road.

No Darla, she did not HAVE to go out on Suburban. There was other ways out, but Grandee Dr was just as close, and she wouldn't have driven past the "dump" site even if she had gone out on Suburban.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 08, 2009, 03:00:34 PM
It's just really incredibly sad that the Anthony family are the way they are.  It didn't have to be this way.  It's far more important to parent children than to be friends with them.  If God wanted you to just be their friend, you would be and not their parent.  Not saying parents can't be friends, but if they're parents first, being a trusted adviser/listener/friend will follow.

ISpy, thank you for this and your other well-thought-out, excellent posts.  I always look forward to reading what you post.  It kicks my brain into gear and gets me thinking thinking... thank you for that!  Often your posts lead to other monkeys digging in and thinking deeper and even out of the box.  We have great monkeys in here, with so many excellent posts, it's hard to keep up at times!  My brain gets a workout, that's for sure!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

<monkey hugs to you, and all>


I have never met anyone like the anthony's and hope I never will again. they are dispicable and disgusting and their image to the public is bad and not any help to their daughters defense !! thank god for that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 08, 2009, 03:08:12 PM
She had to go on Suburban to get to the house. She could have thrown the botle out of the window as close as Caylee was to the road.

You can get to Hopespring Drive without driving onto Suburban. From the main road Chickasaw Trail you can take Grandee Drive which brings you to Ant's house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 03:09:36 PM
Well, I finally caught up and it's a little slow in here, which surprises me with the new doc dump.  But then again, what more can be said?  I have a thousand things going through my head, besides, total and utter disgust at the whole scenario and have read some great ideas here to add to them.  I need to run to the store and will check back in later.

One last note:  Casey and the Anthony's really suck!  They are dispicible and disgusting excuses for human beings.  I know there is nothing, anymore that will cease to amaze me, it makes me sick to think of what else will comes out.  Go SA/FBI/LE! God Bless your hard work!

Justice for Caylee!  ::MonkeyAngel::

If nothing else, she is in a better, peaceful place than she could have ever been here on earth, especially with those evil people, no more suffering.  So maybe it was a blessing in disguise and I know God has a plan.  KC needs to fry and parents need to be convicted of perjury and coverup!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 03:11:39 PM
She had to go on Suburban to get to the house. She could have thrown the botle out of the window as close as Caylee was to the road.

You can get to Hopespring Drive without driving onto Suburban. From the main road Chickasaw Trail you can take Grandee Drive which brings you to Ant's house.

My bad, thought Suburban was the only road in ...I was under the impression that Hopespring was a cul-de-sac.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 08, 2009, 03:14:47 PM
Good afternoon. The syringe and the Gatorade bottle has haunted me since Friday. I don't think it was a plant. The Gatorade bottle looked newer because it was protected somewhat by the Disney bag from the elements.

The duct tape was the cou de gras for KC to make sure if the chloroform injection didn't kill Caylee right away, she would be sure not be able to scream during her seizures and pain, and not be able to breath. KC probably knew nothing of purging fluids, not did she care. KC was simply getting rid of the "big problem in a little package". She had no love for Caylee, she was everything KC wasn't at that point in her life with her family and friends and getting all the attention that KC was not. This was a rage murder and she wanted her victim to suffer. KC no doubtedly loved to watch her die, and savored it in her memory, even today. 

It has been haunting my thoughts ever since I read the docs of Friday....
This is the rough part of the road for me. I knew it was coming. I didn't realize how bad it was going to throw me, and how bad it was going to bruise me up.   

Fanny I agree this lastest doc dump has been gruesome to read.  I was impressed vy the wording that was used, how gentle and carefullythey did there research and findings, and the resppect they paid to the deceased.

I also agree that with all the research on how to perform murder with household contents, she did little thinking about the outcome of the remains.  I think she probably knew there would be some purging of fluids, but didn't understand the ectent of it.  I think if she had known she would have put Caylee in a large Rubbermaid box..to help keep the smell and fluids in check.  Instead she choose trash bags and a laundry bag later and they just didn't do the trick.  Whicih is where I think she lost it..she needed to get rid of the body quickly because it smelled so bad and was attracting flies to outside of her car....I am sure they were swarming by the trunk before she got rid of the body.  So she quckly tosses the body and anything else she feels in need to toss and goes on her merry way to try to clean the trunk.  But it still smells..hence the trash bag from Tony's apt, the fabric softener sheets..and parking by the dumpster at Amscott.  She was hoping the car would be stolen , but it wasn't.
how could she see her babys rotting flesh  dripping  from rot and not get sick or let it affect her?  only someone sick sick in the head could stomach that . but she went on with her life and partied like there was no tomorrow. thats just something that makes me wanna puke. how could someone stomach it??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 08, 2009, 03:20:34 PM
She had to go on Suburban to get to the house. She could have thrown the botle out of the window as close as Caylee was to the road.

You can get to Hopespring Drive without driving onto Suburban. From the main road Chickasaw Trail you can take Grandee Drive which brings you to Ant's house.

My bad, thought Suburban was the only road in ...I was under the impression that Hopespring was a cul-de-sac.

No problem Darla.....we all have senior moments with so much info about this case. I only know of the other route because I went to the neighborhood in January and drove to the Ant's from both roads.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 08, 2009, 03:23:37 PM

Who is being framed ?

My first thought is Jesse, don't know. But that bag just seems to perfect to be there, something is off to me.

I think Jesse too. Or Ricardo. I think KC stole the used syringe from one of them on July 3rd and planted it there in a plastic bag to preserve their fingerprints. She may not have used it to kill Caylee, but knowing that she used chloroform, and thinking that Caylees body would be found sooner than it ultimately was (in which case traces of chloroform may not have all dissipated), she probably put some of her chloroform cocktail into the syringe using gloves. I think she realized that day that the jig was up especially after Cindy went to Universal looking for her. She had to start her coverup. She was at both Ricardo's and Jesse's places on the 3rd. JMO, for now--subject to change from one second to the next!
Either one, that makes sense to me, it is hard for me to believe that she would leave that there to incriminate herself, to me that makes no sense, I think it was planted there, or it could be like some think it was just some random trash, but being there was chloroform in that bottle, that would really be some extremely bizarre coincidence. I still believe that Caylee either was strangled or drowned. And I thought for sometime that the high level of chloroform in the car was from the stellar job of cleaning that was done in that trunk. Not quite stellar, because you can never clean everything away, but George sure gave a pretty good go of it.
I was always suspicous of her visit to Jesse's for a shower. Didn't Ricardo's place have a shower? She needed plenty of time to rummage around looking for something in the bathroom to frame Jesse with. The noise from the running shower would have masked any sounds of her opening cabinets or whatever. However, I think even if something was found at the crime scene that could be traced back to Jesse, it will backfire on KC, highlighting a failed frameup.

Seems weird that she would leave the door ajar if she was searching the bathroom, though, to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Dihannah1 on November 08, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
Girlz,  I agree.  But along with all her other disgusting habits, she obviously displayed some exhibitionism,  look at all her pics.  In her mind, she's "all that".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: strayze on November 08, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
Cindy played a major role in Casey's rage against little Caylee.  It was Cindy who in her super-controlling nature made life most difficult for Casey in that household.  I don't know which came first, but it seems that Cindy took over Casey's role as primary care-giver, but, it may have been that Casey showed no interest in the child to begin with.  Casey strikes me as extremely sinister and creepy, a rather striking personality trait.  It's hard to know what makes her tick, but she certainly is unusual.  Those pictures of Casey at the hearings spooks me out.   I believe Cindy and George certainly knew about Casey's sociopathic personality.  They had a more normal Lee to compare with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 03:37:05 PM
Thanks for the map seeme....I have so many senior moments here lately...I scare me...lol. I don't know where I got the cul-de-sac idea from.

But i can see Casey riding by the site just to gloat about what she did and thought she had gotten away with. She is one sick puppy. No offense to any puppies out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
Girlz,  I agree.  But along with all her other disgusting habits, she obviously displayed some exhibitionism,  look at all her pics.  In her mind, she's "all that".

A definite "10" in her own mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 03:48:44 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 03:56:17 PM
No matter what all has gone on in this case, what's been said and done by whomever, I keep coming back to these four things.... 


In the second 911 call, Cindy says, "I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!"


Lee (in his audo interview with LE on July 29th) said that Cindy did her own questioning of Casey before the deputies arrived.  He also said the first thing Cindy asked Casey was, "What have you done?


In a jailhouse call, Casey says to Cindy, "Mom..... You don't know what my involvement is...?


George said with passion, (in anger/desperation?) to the media/protesters in front of his house:  "...The person that was in the back of my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!"


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And I waited til after lunchtime, hopefully for everyone, to say this. 

Warning for our sensitive monks..............

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We've read that Caylee's body was very likely in the trunk, for a length of time.  That her body very likely decomposed rapidly due to the heat, etc.  One of the reports explained the finding of some sort of partial outline in the trunk that her body had made.  Curled in the fetal position, IIRC.  Also found in the trunk and at the scene was decomposition fluid/leakage from her body.  I cannot remember if the partial outline was from the pressure of her body, or from the fluids/leakage. 

Here's where it gets ermmm.. even more graphic.. I'm so sorry.

Due to how quickly a body can decompose in just days in the heat etc, am thinking that what was later placed into the woods, in no way resembled a body at all, except for her bones.  Sigh. 

Am thinking that George, in his passionate outburst, was very likely thinking in terms of this, possibly because he and Cindy (someone) did a fairly good job of "cleaning up" the fluids/leakage in the car and trunk, and items found inside. 

Am thinking that George in no way wanted to, or could at that point .. maybe at any point .. connect the fluids/leakage to his precious granddaughter.  And in that, I can surely empathize. 

Sigh.   ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 04:10:49 PM
No matter what all has gone on in this case, what's been said and done by whomever, I keep coming back to these four things.... 


In the second 911 call, Cindy says, "I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!"


Lee (in his audo interview with LE on July 29th) said that Cindy did her own questioning of Casey before the deputies arrived.  He also said the first thing Cindy asked Casey was, "What have you done?


In a jailhouse call, Casey says to Cindy, "Mom..... You don't know what my involvement is...?


George said with passion, (in anger/desperation?) to the media/protesters in front of his house:  "...The person that was in the back of my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!"


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And I waited til after lunchtime, hopefully for everyone, to say this. 

Warning for our sensitive monks..............

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.
.
.
.
.
.

We've read that Caylee's body was very likely in the trunk, for a length of time.  That her body very likely decomposed rapidly due to the heat, etc.  One of the reports explained the finding of some sort of partial outline in the trunk that her body had made.  Curled in the fetal position, IIRC.  Also found in the trunk and at the scene was decomposition fluid/leakage from her body.  I cannot remember if the partial outline was from the pressure of her body, or from the fluids/leakage. 

Here's where it gets ermmm.. even more graphic.. I'm so sorry.

Due to how quickly a body can decompose in just days in the heat etc, am thinking that what was later placed into the woods, in no way resembled a body at all, except for her bones.  Sigh. 

Am thinking that George, in his passionate outburst, was very likely thinking in terms of this, possibly because he and Cindy (someone) did a fairly good job of "cleaning up" the fluids/leakage in the car and trunk, and items found inside. 

Am thinking that George in no way wanted to, or could at that point .. maybe at any point .. connect the fluids/leakage to his precious granddaughter.  And in that, I can surely empathize. 

Sigh.   ::MonkeyWaa::



I believe that Caylee became an "it" as soon as she was dead. And rapidly became an "it" as soon as Georgie & Spindy saw the trunk. "It" needed to be taken care of first by KC and later by Georgie and Spindy. None of them could wrap their minds around that "it" was Caylee. Therefore, they can keep the two thing separate. "It" was a problem and a horrible reality. Caylee was a warm, sweet smelling little girl. Evil, despicable, conniving people. I hope Georgie pukes every day of his life with the memory. KC and Spindy are too cold and detached to even go there. The worst that can happen to them is to have all their material things taken away from them. Georgie is just along for the ride. He'll puke, but he will take what he can get. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 04:17:02 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 04:26:11 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.

Yes, Lee and Mallory were both on the cruise. There was a slide show of the pics, plus I think the Globe had a front page article about it.  WFTV had the slide show. I have looked, but haven't found it. Maybe TRIMM will post it again. It is in the pages on the last thread, IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 04:28:07 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Doesn't Georgie look like a likely candidate for Testosterone? Isn't he lovely??? ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 04:28:24 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/ANTHONY_family_Cruise_small.jpg)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/10/21/cindy-george-anthony-lee-and-mallory-on-a-cruise-caption-contest-hey-casey-wish-you-were-here/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 04:30:28 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Doesn't Georgie look like a likely candidate for Testosterone? Isn't he lovely??? ::MonkeyMad::

Eewwww!   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 04:32:08 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Doesn't Georgie look like a likely candidate for Testosterone? Isn't he lovely??? ::MonkeyMad::
Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 08, 2009, 04:35:34 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.

Lol, how much evidence do you need than Caylee wasn't reported missing for 31 days. The only evidence that can not be explained away or have a spin to it. No one parties, lies, steals from friends while they know their child is missing, unless of course you are the one responsible for it. Case closed...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Doesn't Georgie look like a likely candidate for Testosterone? Isn't he lovely??? ::MonkeyMad::
Thanks!
OMG  Mallory really needs to wear a one piece suit!  Gross


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 08, 2009, 04:41:33 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.

Lol, how much evidence do you need than Caylee wasn't reported missing for 31 days. The only evidence that can not be explained away or have a spin to it. No one parties, lies, steals from friends while they know their child is missing, unless of course you are the one responsible for it. Case closed...
LOL  I don't need anymore evidence!  But there are those people out ther that are still sending her money, etc.  This slore need to s die!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 05:31:19 PM
No matter what all has gone on in this case, what's been said and done by whomever, I keep coming back to these four things.... 


In the second 911 call, Cindy says, "I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!"


Lee (in his audo interview with LE on July 29th) said that Cindy did her own questioning of Casey before the deputies arrived.  He also said the first thing Cindy asked Casey was, "What have you done?


In a jailhouse call, Casey says to Cindy, "Mom..... You don't know what my involvement is...?


George said with passion, (in anger/desperation?) to the media/protesters in front of his house:  "...The person that was in the back of my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!"


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And I waited til after lunchtime, hopefully for everyone, to say this. 

Warning for our sensitive monks..............

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We've read that Caylee's body was very likely in the trunk, for a length of time.  That her body very likely decomposed rapidly due to the heat, etc.  One of the reports explained the finding of some sort of partial outline in the trunk that her body had made.  Curled in the fetal position, IIRC.  Also found in the trunk and at the scene was decomposition fluid/leakage from her body.  I cannot remember if the partial outline was from the pressure of her body, or from the fluids/leakage. 

Here's where it gets ermmm.. even more graphic.. I'm so sorry.

Due to how quickly a body can decompose in just days in the heat etc, am thinking that what was later placed into the woods, in no way resembled a body at all, except for her bones.  Sigh. 

Am thinking that George, in his passionate outburst, was very likely thinking in terms of this, possibly because he and Cindy (someone) did a fairly good job of "cleaning up" the fluids/leakage in the car and trunk, and items found inside. 

Am thinking that George in no way wanted to, or could at that point .. maybe at any point .. connect the fluids/leakage to his precious granddaughter.  And in that, I can surely empathize. 

Sigh.   ::MonkeyWaa::



Wyks-  Excellent!!!!  I think you are spot on with your comments here.  George's angry (enraged, livid, barely contained) outburst of "The person that was in the back of my daughter's car...." was one of the most damaging public statements he's ever made.  Obviously, he outright admitted that there was, in fact, a person in the back of Casey's car.  Moreover, how did HE know that and how did HE know it wasn't Caylee?  Only one of two choices:  Casey told him (which means he knew there was a body in the back of the car at some point-BIG problem for him) or George saw the body himself (even bigger problem given his numerous LE, Grand Jury, state's attorney depos, and ZG depos) and by Lee & Cindy's own accounts, he's the car detailer in the family (Accessory after the fact, Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence, more?).  You accurately pinned George's statement.  In his mind, at that stage of the game (and it was a game to Casey, Cindy, and George- "Hide and No Seek"), he was unable and consciously-subconsciously unwilling to reconcile what he saw in Casey's trunk (IMO) with his leaving, breathing, laughing, playing grandchild.  He was also completely unwilling to believe Casey had killed her.  The overwhelming concern in their minds was taking care of the "problem" by getting rid of the evidence ASAP, IMO.

Additionally, he's the only family member who's thrown up repeatedly when discussing this with LE.  This is significant in itself, but more so in light of his LE employment.  His physical discomfort is a direct manifestation of his fear of LE.  Notice George is angry, defiant, rude, and contemptuous with Morgan & Morgan and the State's Attorneys.  He is smart alecky and contemptuous in court, but not physically sick.  You could almost see the fear and panic rising, when George misinterpreted the line of questioning in the ZG depos.  He thought they were actually questioning him about the last time he saw Caylee.  Within seconds, he became belligerent, almost to the point of hysteria.  His fear and panic, even as the question was still being asked, was nearly palpable.  You could almost "see" him sharply inhale and recoil.  That fear, combined with his recollection of the event, and anger at the people reminding him and "questioning" him about it, provoked his extreme reaction.  ITA with LE, George is a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.  JMOO

Having said that, I empathize in the sense that it would be indescribably traumatic to see the remains of your family member.  Beyond that point, choices were made with the specific goal in mind to get Casey off.  MOO     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 06:13:00 PM
where were the other passengers when the photo of the A;s were laying out on the deck of the cruise ship? didn't anyone else want to be around them? only the 4 of them there..


in their private moments, don't you imagine that there has been a time when they have admitted to each other that Casey did murder Caylee? how can they keep lying for that slore? what are they hiding about themselves?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 08, 2009, 06:27:45 PM
where were the other passengers when the photo of the A;s were laying out on the deck of the cruise ship? didn't anyone else want to be around them? only the 4 of them there..


in their private moments, don't you imagine that there has been a time when they have admitted to each other that Casey did murder Caylee? how can they keep lying for that slore? what are they hiding about themselves?

Good Evening all!

Cookie don't you remember George saying they don't discuss the case , even when Casey was home?
Sarcasm alert!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 06:30:12 PM
No matter what all has gone on in this case, what's been said and done by whomever, I keep coming back to these four things.... 


In the second 911 call, Cindy says, "I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!"


Lee (in his audo interview with LE on July 29th) said that Cindy did her own questioning of Casey before the deputies arrived.  He also said the first thing Cindy asked Casey was, "What have you done?


In a jailhouse call, Casey says to Cindy, "Mom..... You don't know what my involvement is...?


George said with passion, (in anger/desperation?) to the media/protesters in front of his house:  "...The person that was in the back of my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!"


---------

And I waited til after lunchtime, hopefully for everyone, to say this. 

Warning for our sensitive monks..............

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.
.
.
.
.
.

We've read that Caylee's body was very likely in the trunk, for a length of time.  That her body very likely decomposed rapidly due to the heat, etc.  One of the reports explained the finding of some sort of partial outline in the trunk that her body had made.  Curled in the fetal position, IIRC.  Also found in the trunk and at the scene was decomposition fluid/leakage from her body.  I cannot remember if the partial outline was from the pressure of her body, or from the fluids/leakage. 

Here's where it gets ermmm.. even more graphic.. I'm so sorry.

Due to how quickly a body can decompose in just days in the heat etc, am thinking that what was later placed into the woods, in no way resembled a body at all, except for her bones.  Sigh. 

Am thinking that George, in his passionate outburst, was very likely thinking in terms of this, possibly because he and Cindy (someone) did a fairly good job of "cleaning up" the fluids/leakage in the car and trunk, and items found inside. 

Am thinking that George in no way wanted to, or could at that point .. maybe at any point .. connect the fluids/leakage to his precious granddaughter.  And in that, I can surely empathize. 

Sigh.   ::MonkeyWaa::



Wyks-  Excellent!!!!  I think you are spot on with your comments here.  George's angry (enraged, livid, barely contained) outburst of "The person that was in the back of my daughter's car...." was one of the most damaging public statements he's ever made.  Obviously, he outright admitted that there was, in fact, a person in the back of Casey's car.  Moreover, how did HE know that and how did HE know it wasn't Caylee?  Only one of two choices:  Casey told him (which means he knew there was a body in the back of the car at some point-BIG problem for him) or George saw the body himself (even bigger problem given his numerous LE, Grand Jury, state's attorney depos, and ZG depos) and by Lee & Cindy's own accounts, he's the car detailer in the family (Accessory after the fact, Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence, more?).  You accurately pinned George's statement.  In his mind, at that stage of the game (and it was a game to Casey, Cindy, and George- "Hide and No Seek"), he was unable and consciously-subconsciously unwilling to reconcile what he saw in Casey's trunk (IMO) with his leaving, breathing, laughing, playing grandchild.  He was also completely unwilling to believe Casey had killed her.  The overwhelming concern in their minds was taking care of the "problem" by getting rid of the evidence ASAP, IMO.

Additionally, he's the only family member who's thrown up repeatedly when discussing this with LE.  This is significant in itself, but more so in light of his LE employment.  His physical discomfort is a direct manifestation of his fear of LE.  Notice George is angry, defiant, rude, and contemptuous with Morgan & Morgan and the State's Attorneys.  He is smart alecky and contemptuous in court, but not physically sick.  You could almost see the fear and panic rising, when George misinterpreted the line of questioning in the ZG depos.  He thought they were actually questioning him about the last time he saw Caylee.  Within seconds, he became belligerent, almost to the point of hysteria.  His fear and panic, even as the question was still being asked, was nearly palpable.  You could almost "see" him sharply inhale and recoil.  That fear, combined with his recollection of the event, and anger at the people reminding him and "questioning" him about it, provoked his extreme reaction.  ITA with LE, George is a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.  JMOO

Having said that, I empathize in the sense that it would be indescribably traumatic to see the remains of your family member.  Beyond that point, choices were made with the specific goal in mind to get Casey off.  MOO     
ISPY, another well thought out post from you. I hate so bad that I am no longer a night owl and able to post with you. We hardly ever are on at the same time. But I do read each and every post you make. I wish I was able to put into words my feelings about Calyee's murder as well as you. Thank you.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
Everyone, I'm sorry.  I don't know how to shorten quote stacks so I copied and pasted Fanny Mae's comments up above on this page (Pg. 43).

"I believe that Caylee became an "it" as soon as she was dead. And rapidly became an "it" as soon as Georgie & Spindy saw the trunk. "It" needed to be taken care of first by KC and later by Georgie and Spindy. None of them could wrap their minds around that "it" was Caylee. Therefore, they can keep the two thing separate. "It" was a problem and a horrible reality. Caylee was a warm, sweet smelling little girl. Evil, despicable, conniving people. I hope Georgie pukes every day of his life with the memory. KC and Spindy are too cold and detached to even go there. The worst that can happen to them is to have all their material things taken away from them. Georgie is just along for the ride. He'll puke, but he will take what he can get. JMO "

Fanny- You are exactly right!  ITA! The only thing I would change was that Casey could have cared less that "it" was Caylee, either way.  You perfectly described Cindy & George's difficulty reconciling the "It" with Caylee.  That also explains why, when they have to discuss Caylee, their subconscious initially causes them to call Caylee "that little girl" or "it" to distance themselves from the recollection.  In the few milliseconds it takes for them to hear their own words and process them, they become conscious of their stilted, emotionally detached words and rush to correct them with "Caylee" or "Caylee Marie" (in Cindy's case).  As more evidence began to be released, they became further removed in their speech.  When reporters, readers, posters, and lawyers began pointing this abnormality out, George and Cindy began making a concerted effort to say Caylee or Caylee Marie more often.  The odd thing is, they seem to have to really choose to say her name before they say it.  There's appears to be a very awkward break or hesitation before they actually say it, as opposed to the natural flow of conversation about someone you know well and dearly love.  JMOO

I think George and Cindy quickly ascertained that it was Caylee who was in trouble because: they'd been in contact with Casey and Lee had some idea of where she was and could reach her (Lee's testimony about staking out the party and how he subsequently contacted her, she refused to answer, he got Mallory to text her, she immediately and angrily texted back that she knew Lee was there with Mallory using her to get Casey to answer, etc).  *Sidenote- I'd like to know why Cindy or George didn't call Lee at work and ask him to come home immediately.*  IMO, they realized the truth and abruptly made the choice to protect Casey at all costs...and so Operation Cover-Up began.  JMO  The reality is what Casey did is inescapable (try as they all may) and what Cindy & George have done will haunt them-it's called reaping and sowing.  They can only run so far and so fast before they will hit the wall (so to speak).  They are like a dogs on chains chasing squirrels (freedom)...they'll abruptly and repeatedly be jerked back by their chains (visual reminders of Caylee-her empty room/her toys & clothes/family pics & videos/the backyard toys, their permanently altered lifestyle, snide/angry public comments everywhere they go, little chance of future employment coupled with mounting expenses, Casey's death or permanent incarceration-I personally believe she'll get death, the breakdown of their marriage due to stress, their lack of credibility, and not least of all-a future devoid of sweet Caylee herself and her unconditional love).  That doesn't begin to take into account any charges they may individually face resulting from their statements & testimonies.   All MOO



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 06:38:29 PM
I SPY.....
yeah...what Fanny just said! good posts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 06:39:34 PM
where were the other passengers when the photo of the A;s were laying out on the deck of the cruise ship? didn't anyone else want to be around them? only the 4 of them there..


in their private moments, don't you imagine that there has been a time when they have admitted to each other that Casey did murder Caylee? how can they keep lying for that slore? what are they hiding about themselves?

Good Evening all!

Cookie don't you remember George saying they don't discuss the case , even when Casey was home?
Sarcasm alert!

lol! yes I do remember....all BS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2009, 06:44:49 PM
where were the other passengers when the photo of the A;s were laying out on the deck of the cruise ship? didn't anyone else want to be around them? only the 4 of them there..


in their private moments, don't you imagine that there has been a time when they have admitted to each other that Casey did murder Caylee? how can they keep lying for that slore? what are they hiding about themselves?

Good Evening all!

Cookie don't you remember George saying they don't discuss the case , even when Casey was home?
Sarcasm alert!

lol! yes I do remember....all BS!

 :smt045  I despise them all.    ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 06:48:43 PM
Fanny-I miss your nighttime posts too!  :smt039  Praying for you with this doc dump.  You've had a lot of good points in the last 24 hours.  When I feel overloaded, I head out and spend some extra time with family and friends.  I give myself permission not to read every last detail and I talk to God about this whole thing.    :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 06:51:32 PM
Just realized I never said "Hello!".  Well, it's "Hi!" and "Bye." all in one.  Have to run-have some things to attend to.  Good talking with you all and reading all the excellent comments.  See you all later.  Take a good care and have a great night!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Fanny-I miss your nighttime posts too!  :smt039  Praying for you with this doc dump.  You've had a lot of good points in the last 24 hours.  When I feel overloaded, I head out and spend some extra time with family and friends.  I give myself permission not to read every last detail and I talk to God about this whole thing.    :smt056
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 08, 2009, 07:30:58 PM
Girlz,  I agree.  But along with all her other disgusting habits, she obviously displayed some exhibitionism,  look at all her pics.  In her mind, she's "all that".

A definite "10" in her own mind.


Probably also why Caylee was always taking off "Mama" dolls clothes. Of course she asociated Mama with KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on November 08, 2009, 07:32:28 PM
From just what little I've read so far it is an open & shut case.  I give the jury 30 minutes or less.   I really do hope it comes to trial and there's no plea deal.  Caylee needs her day in court!



Yes indeed. However, I don't think CA will allow KC to have her day in court quietly. I wonder how many times she'll interrupt the proceedings? She just can't help/control herself. I also wonder how many time GA will vomit when the disgusting details are discussed. He better bring a trash can with him!

 My guess is 5 and half hours and then I hope it's DP.

Bozo should've  gotten his little pookums to take a plea, long before all this came out but noooooooooooo I really think in his arrogance and ignorance he thought he could stutter and stammer his way to aquital, after all he is the first hispanic atty. to handle a case of this magnitude ( :smt112) and I must say I'm eagerly waiting to sit back and watch
Mt. Saint Spindy blow her top during trial.
                                                           ::MonkeyDevil2::

Hi monkeys! MzJay I completely agree with you, Bozo wanted to see his day in court where he could get a famous murderer off, so he could play Top Dog Lawyer Millionaire....one problem= he was to stupid to even attempt to fathom how twisted this slor really is!


btw---- Ricardo has always been a mystery....and that chloroform banner on his myspace has to have meant something to him. You think the night of the 9th when Caylee and Casey spent the night, Casey found it and stole it? According to Amy, Caylee could sleep through anything.........with a little help.   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: KCJackie on November 08, 2009, 07:37:56 PM
 ::MonkeyBike:: Hi Monkeys, the helium balloon is driving me crazy - is this something new or something that has been out there for a while?  It seems kinda familiar to me. ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Has anyone came forward remembering KC buying a Winnie the Pooh balloon?  Could George or Cindy have placed it there?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2009, 08:33:26 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 

Sorry Fanny..just catching up here.  Lee...hmmm...I think the CMA and high five was just to cover his ass with Casey.  I do not blame him...his parents have put the blinders on and are 100 percent behind Casey..as they have always been.  He has no way out other then to distance himself..he cannot go against the family creed of Casey is innocent.  Yet I think during his time in this family he has always chose the path of least resistence.  He had to cope with Casey's temper tantrums, her stealing from him, her attitude..just to get by..he went to his room and shut the door.  I just feel Lee is trying to survive in this dysfunctional family.

However..I think that Lee needs to grow up and get some brass B*lls of his own..this little play is coming to an end quickly.  He will be number one son due to his going along to get along...but he will be haunted by Casey and Caylee the rest of his life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2009, 08:43:55 PM
I just want to say one thing...as a parent you do know when your child is mentally unstable, you do know when they are mentally ill, especially when they are still living most of the time in your home..not having an apartment.  You get to see their day to day relations with the family.

Cindy was a nurse..she knew damn well that Casey was mentally ill.  She knew damn well that Casey was not putting her daughter, Caylee, first.  She knew the family dynamics were dysfunctional.  Yet she did nothing..even after she sought a counselor.  The counselor said to kick Casey to the curb.  Cindy said she didn't because of Caylee.  Well ..that said to me she knew at that time that Casey was not taking good care of Caylee and left to her own devices it would not be a good outcome for Caylee.  Otherwise she would have said to Casey you and Caylee need to be on your own.  She never did..because she knew Casey could not handle that situation.

Cindy knew her daughter was not a good mom, was mentally ill and Caylee was at risk being left alone with Casey..yet she took no one's advice and let this situation fester until the explosion on June 15th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 08:45:51 PM
I just want to say one thing...as a parent you do know when your child is mentally unstable, you do know when they are mentally ill, especially when they are still living most of the time in your home..not having an apartment.  You get to see their day to day relations with the family.

Cindy was a nurse..she knew damn well that Casey was mentally ill.  She knew damn well that Casey was not putting her daughter, Caylee, first.  She knew the family dynamics were dysfunctional.  Yet she did nothing..even after she sought a counselor.  The counselor said to kick Casey to the curb.  Cindy said she didn't because of Caylee.  Well ..that said to me she knew at that time that Casey was not taking good care of Caylee and left to her own devices it would not be a good outcome for Caylee.  Otherwise she would have said to Casey you and Caylee need to be on your own.  She never did..because she knew Casey could not handle that situation.

Cindy knew her daughter was not a good mom, was mentally ill and Caylee was at risk being left alone with Casey..yet she took no one's advice and let this situation fester until the explosion on June 15th.

yep...you summed it up about Cindy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2009, 08:46:29 PM
PS Just wanted to add I didn't mean that Casey was mentally ill because she was still living at home..just that when a person is living with you..parent or not..you know rather or not they are mentally or emotionally stable by their day to day reactions to the family life and other situations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
o/t...the Jaycee Dugard story is starting on TLC at 8:00 PM...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2009, 08:51:08 PM
TY Cookie..I just wish Cindy and George would either speak up with the truth or shut up..they are doing such a disservice to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 08:57:10 PM
TY Cookie..I just wish Cindy and George would either speak up with the truth or shut up..they are doing such a disservice to Caylee.

I agree..
how can they look into Caylee's soft brown eyes from her pictures and  not want to see justice for her? I could never cover for the murderer of my grand daughter, no matter who was involved...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
Cindy played a major role in Casey's rage against little Caylee.  It was Cindy who in her super-controlling nature made life most difficult for Casey in that household.  I don't know which came first, but it seems that Cindy took over Casey's role as primary care-giver, but, it may have been that Casey showed no interest in the child to begin with.  Casey strikes me as extremely sinister and creepy, a rather striking personality trait.  It's hard to know what makes her tick, but she certainly is unusual.  Those pictures of Casey at the hearings spooks me out.   I believe Cindy and George certainly knew about Casey's sociopathic personality.  They had a more normal Lee to compare with.

If you think about it, in the outside world, both George & Cindy gravitated toward jobs which were in the "controlling" decision-making department of Life.   Law enforcement/security [ mostly ] ... and nursing/home health patient care decisions.   Whole lotta controlling going on.  Was the Home Front the battlefield for control between the two generals after 'coming home from the wars'?   IMO, both parents are control freaks-each in his/her own way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 09:07:08 PM
I got what I wanted out of the last doc dump. In fact, I got more. A kick in the stomach, so to speak. So now, for me, the only thing I am waiting for are the fingerprints.  They have not been mentioned, except to rule out the Anthonys and Lee. That will be the real mother lode. There is no longer any doubt in my mind what happened to Caylee.

The only thing left for me is to see George & Spindy get their just due. God, how I pray I live to see that day come! For now, I will give Lee a by because he has at least tried to distance himself. The pictures of him on the cruise bring me a little closer to wanting to see him have to bite the bullet too though. I think, "How could he?" And the "CMA" stuff and the "High Five!" Maybe I will change my mind about him again. 
Was Lee on the cruise too?  Where is the link to all the pics?  I just saw a couple of George and Spindy.

I just have to think that there is a whole lot more evidence that they have that will be shown at the trial or when the time is right.  I just want whoever helped in the cover up and knew what this slore did to pay.  They are not grieving grandparents or and uncle if they helped in anyway to cover up anything.  After reading what someone posted about why the dogs may have hit in the back yard could be due to the Anthony's possibly dumping the water from the wet vac or shampoer there really makes some sense and makes you think  about it.



(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/ANTHONY_family_Cruise_small.jpg)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/10/21/cindy-george-anthony-lee-and-mallory-on-a-cruise-caption-contest-hey-casey-wish-you-were-here/

What a motley crew.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 09:20:24 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/george-cindy-display-caylee-tattoos-on-cruise-the-globe-says/

***Thanks to Jo, a reader, for the tip about photos — in the Globe — of George and Cindy Anthony on that Caribbean cruise. The revelation: The grandparents are sporting tattoos in honor of Caylee.

Cindy’s tattoo, on her abdomen, has Caylee’s name and a butterfly.

George’s tattoo, on his left pec, features a girl, sunbeams and the words “My Sunshine.” The Globe also notes that George “was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings.”



Sorry I screwed up quoting.

Ahhhh yes, the grieving grandparents....    ::MonkeyTongue::



Doesn't Georgie look like a likely candidate for Testosterone? Isn't he lovely??? ::MonkeyMad::

Every time I see that photo of them sitting in the deck chairs pretending to be unaware of the camera, for some reason,  that shot of George reminds me of the Albert Goldman character in the 1996 movie version of The Bird Cage.  The oversized earring or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 08, 2009, 09:22:34 PM
Ono...that was exactly my thought when I saw the 4 of them lined up on the chairs..!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 08, 2009, 09:34:58 PM
Ono...that was exactly my thought when I saw the 4 of them lined up on the chairs..!

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 10:22:09 PM
Evening, everyone!  Just stopping in for a few minutes, have a few more things to take care of.  Just trying to keep a few things in perspective tonight.  The bottle with the syringe was no surprise, as we already knew from previous doc dumps.   As far as the chloroform, testosterone, and ethanol go, that was a surprise to quite a few.  Granted, finding these items close to the body is a little too coincidental, but we have not been given definitive proof or documentation that they are connected.  So, I'm going to pass on theorizing on death by injection for now and save myself the stress/anger.  I'd really hate to get all worked up only to discover in the next three months that they're totally unconnected.  I'd rather hope for the best and be right, than imagine the worst and be right.  Just my two cents.  *Is that avoidance? ::MonkeyWink::
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
I SPY.....
yeah...what Fanny just said! good posts!

Thanks, Cookie!  Lucy looks so cute in her Pilgrim garb!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
Reading back over Pgs. 43-44 reminded me...Does anyone else think it's odd that Caylee named her doll Mama?  I've known lots of little toddler girls and on up and I've never heard one name a doll Mama.  Almost without exception, they name them after a TV show character, family member (like sisters, cousins, aunts), family friends, playmates, or book characters.  I wonder if Caylee named her after the mama in Suppertime For Freida Fuzzypaws?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 08, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
Well, time to go.  Hope you all have a good evening and take care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 08, 2009, 11:40:05 PM
Reading back over Pgs. 43-44 reminded me...Does anyone else think it's odd that Caylee named her doll Mama?  I've known lots of little toddler girls and on up and I've never heard one name a doll Mama.  Almost without exception, they name them after a TV show character, family member (like sisters, cousins, aunts), family friends, playmates, or book characters.  I wonder if Caylee named her after the mama in Suppertime For Freida Fuzzypaws?

I think her doll was named Mama because it used to belong to KC. OR maybe the doll says "mama" as in a talking doll.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 09, 2009, 12:46:45 AM
o/t...the Jaycee Dugard story is starting on TLC at 8:00 PM...

Darn it!! Missed that! Hope they have some other showings.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
Boy I  enjoyed my friend coming to visit, but it was hard to try and sneek in a few minutes to read all of this and then try to process it.
While I was talking to my daughter tonight we were talking about the chloroform, I want to know where kc was able to take the time to make it. seems like it would take at least a couple of tries to get it right. Even though she did have a lot of free time after the folks went to work, CA is such an anal freak, seems like she would notice any jar or container missing right away. KC would've had to set up her makeshift lab, then make it, then super carefully get rid of any empty bottles, make sure that nothing got spilled and stained anything etc.
Where I'm going with this is, maybe there is a friend, like Annie D. who helped with the chloro project. I don't believe that the night Caylee died it was the first time it was used. She had to already have it made. Could it be that the chloroform experiment began at someone else's house, kc tried it a few times on Caylee to knock her out for fun times with her friends. Maybe that's why Annie D. acted so weird, she stops short of really asking what happened when she was at the post jail slumber party?? Maybe she was scared chitless that she could be implicated over the chloroform deal, possibly when kc stuck to "the nanny did it" nonsense, annie just clammed up and prayed real hard that kc would stick with that story and nobody would ever know.
???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 06:15:23 AM
Good Morning.    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 06:17:13 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d9-Report-indicates-Casey-Anthony-furious-over-Steven-Soderbergh-Tot-Mom-play
Report indicates Casey Anthony furious over Steven Soderbergh ‘Tot Mom’ play
November 9, 4:29 AMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams

In late October, it was announced that Oscar-winning director, Steven Soderbergh, created a play based on the Casey Anthony case. Soderbergh won an Oscar for directing the film ‘Traffic’ and has a number of noteworthy other noteworthy credits in the entertainment industry.

The play will reportedly star award winning actress, Cate Blanchett, and is due to hit the Australian stage in December and run through the end of January.

Casey is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, and dumping her body in a wooded area near the Anthony family home.

The production called ‘Tot Mom’ will use transcripts from Nancy Grace’s HLN show, police reports, and court documents as its source material and is being produced by the Sydney Theatre Co.

The National Enquirer now reports that news of the play has infuriated the woman who’s the center of the play, 23-year-old Casey Anthony. According to the report, a fellow inmate said that once Casey heard about the production, she said “Are you [expletive] kidding me? You get my [expletive] lawyer, now!“
The inmate told the Enquirer that “Casey was completely out of control after hearing about the play. She was screaming so loud that a guard threatened to lock her in an isolation unit. She demanded that guards contact her attorney, Jose Baez.”

The Orlando Sentinel reports that by taking the play Australia, Soderbergh does not have to compensate anyone for material used in the production--including Casey and her family.

Casey’s murder trial is slated to begin June 2010. She faces the death penalty if convicted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 09, 2009, 07:58:49 AM
Reading back over Pgs. 43-44 reminded me...Does anyone else think it's odd that Caylee named her doll Mama?  I've known lots of little toddler girls and on up and I've never heard one name a doll Mama.  Almost without exception, they name them after a TV show character, family member (like sisters, cousins, aunts), family friends, playmates, or book characters.  I wonder if Caylee named her after the mama in Suppertime For Freida Fuzzypaws?

I had a Mama doll ... my first dollie and my alltime favorite.  I still have her packed away after all these years as she was my most cherished possession - my best toy.   The Mama doll stems from the many, many manufactured dolls that when you bend them forward and then backward in a rocking motion, there is a mechanism inside the cloth tummy which makes a sound saying: "Mama" ...  More than likely, Cindy had a Mama doll too, or ... Caylee's litle doll also had the same sound mechanism.  I really don't think the fact that Caylee's dollie was called "Mama" means anything at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 09, 2009, 08:27:29 AM
Good Morning Monks..old and new....I took a break from the case and the internet this past weekend. I am on the fence about the darn syringe.....if it is related I sure hope it is the smoking gun! 

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-is-outraged-by-play-tot-mom-tabloid-says-.html

Casey Anthony: Casey Anthony is outraged by play 'Tot Mom,' tabloid says -- but jail blasts history of 'reckless' reporting
posted by halboedeker on Nov 8, 2009 8:39:33 AM


A lot of people following the Casey Anthony saga are outraged that Steven Soderbergh is staging a play in Australia about media coverage of the high-profile case.

Turns out that Anthony is angry, too, according to The National Enquirer. Does her supposed fury change anyone's anger over the play "Tot Mom"?

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

The Orange County Jail discounted the Enquirer's reporting on the case, saying the tabloid has used former inmates who come forward with fabrications.

The Enquirer titles its short article: "Casey rants over play about Caylee." The tabloid quotes "a jail source" who says that Anthony "was completely out of control after hearing about the play" and wanted her attorney Jose Baez immediately. The article says that "Casey ranted to guards that she'll sue if she's not paid by the producers of the play."

Ah, well. About that point: Soderbergh is drawing on the public record (court documents, police reports) to create the play. Thus, he doesn't have to pay anyone for the material.

Allen Moore, spokesman for the Orange County Jail, said, "The National Enquirer has demonstrated a reckless regard for the truth with regard to Casey Anthony's incarceration."

Moore added, "Casey Anthony has never acted out in jail or created a disturbance in the jail. She is basically a very compliant inmate."

Moore said, "If all inmates were as compliant as Miss Anthony, there would be no problems in the jail."

The Sydney Theatre Company, which is staging the play, has sent a form e-mail to readers who have complained about "Tot Mom." The company highlights the play's focus on Nancy Grace -- transcripts from her HLN show are another source for Soderbergh. The company says: "Her public crusade for justice for little Caylee transformed the case from a tragic story to a 24-hour news spectacle."

The company also stresses that "the Sydney Theatre Company will make no profit from this production."

The company, however, might have Anthony mad.

Or not.

This episode could be another scene for the play.






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 09, 2009, 08:43:03 AM
Good morning Monkeys-Its hard to read the new doc dump-poor Caylee.  Evil witch for a mother-uncaring grandparents-moron for an uncle.
They go on a cruise diamond earing-tats-this is so nuts -is it possible they are doing all these horrible things to turn people against KC-so they never have to fear that she will come home. They say she is innnocent-but they know she did it-and they fear her-so thye make public statement supporting her-but do everything to make people hate them and her. If this is not the case --then they are all monster's  and  never loved Caylee-  After this last doc dump-the only vac George should be  taking is going back to the suicide motel and take Sin SIN with him -and for the first time in his life do something right-blow her brains and then his--eh thougth of how Caylee died is so hear breaking-just cant get it out of my mind


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 09:00:40 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/18/crimesider/entry5250389.shtml
November 9, 2009 8:15 AM
Book 'Em: Mommy's Little Girl, Casey Anthony and her Daughter Caylee's Tragic Fate
Posted by Barry Leibowitz
(http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/11/09/image5587028x.jpg)
NEW YORK (CBS) In the summer of 2008, two-year-old Caylee Anthony was reported missing. Five months later, her body was found near the family home in Orlando, Florida. In MOMMY’S LITTLE GIRL: Casey Anthony and her Daughter Caylee's Tragic Fate, Diane Fanning goes behind the headlines to provide a heartbreaking account of a case that shocked the nation.

It's an account based on thousands of pages of police transcripts and reports, and other official documents, as well as taped interviews and on-site research.

When news broke of Caylee Anthony’s disappearance, there was a huge outpouring of sympathy. The search made front-page headlines. But there was one huge question mark hanging over the case: the toddler's mother.
As the investigation continued and suspicions mounted, Casey Anthony became the prime suspect. In October 2008, a grand jury indicted the young single mother based on new evidence -- her erratic behavior and lies, and signs of human decomposition in the trunk of the car she'd been driving before Caylee disappeared. Casey Anthony pled not guilty to charges of first-degree murder; now her trial is pending.

This timely account weaves together the details surrounding this highly publicized case, about the tragic death of a little girl whose fate captivated a nation.


Interview with Diane Fanning by Barry Leibowitz, Senior Writer at 48 Hours | Mystery

What makes the Caylee Anthony case so compelling?

Fanning: The emotional draw of three of the basic elements of this story drew the public’s eye and made it easy to care about the outcome.

First of all, the most important person in this drama is the victim, little Caylee Marie. She was a beautiful little girl with the wide-eyed charm that stirs up our basic protective instincts and embodies the essence of innocence. When we first learned of her, Caylee was a missing child. We had high hopes for a happy ending—despite grim statistics to the contrary. We wanted to believe she could be found, safe and sound, and returned home to her family. The public made an emotional investment in this positive outcome.
Secondly, the story had the perfect setting for this sunny optimism—Orlando, Florida. This city is a Mecca for children, reflecting their wonder, their wishes, their dreams.

Middle class America yearns to take their children on a trip to this magical city in the sunshine state. This upbeat image of Orlando promises a Disney-like happy ending.

Unfortunately, for Caylee, that promise was not kept. It was destroyed by the third compelling element of this story—the accused perpetrator.

We think of those who would harm an innocent child as monsters. We could feel untouched by a crime if all these monsters were easy to recognize on sight—wild-eyed, drooling, depraved strangers. They rarely are—most of these monsters look just like us. In this case, the suspected villain is a young, attractive single mother without a history of poverty, abuse or deprivation to give us an understanding of her heartlessness. She was a slightly pampered, middle-class woman, much like the girl who lives next door. And that made us all question our assumptions and preconceived notions.
Those three elements alone made a heady combination that could easily capture the interest of crime watchers from coast to coast.

But this case brought even more to the table. Between the state’s slow and deliberate public release of discovery documents and an ever-changing side show of eccentric characters from a black-hatted bounty-hunter to a controversial band on a flatbed truck, this story never faded from the attention of the 24-hour news cycle.

What's the most fascinating forensic aspect of the case that needs answers?

Fanning: What has fascinated me the most is the odor analysis in the back of the car that indicated little Caylee’s body was stashed for some time in the trunk. There is a lot of skepticism about the strength of the science behind this forensic technique. On the one hand, you have highly regarded scientists examining this evidence and presenting it as fact. On the other, the cynics peer at it suspiciously suspecting junk science where data is twisted to prove a point rather than leading to a conclusion through scientific method. If the science behind it could be demonstrated to be sound through its presentation in this trial, it could have huge implications for future courtroom confrontations.

I, personally, maintain a querulous pose on the issue but, also find it, in my mind, to be irrelevant. I was far more moved by the anecdotal evidence. Not only did trained dogs hit on the trunk, but experienced investigators and other observers recognized the smell of decomposing human flesh. They all assure us that it is an odor never forgotten and never mistaken. To me, that is compelling evidence.

The only question that really matters in this case, though, is the jurors’ perception. Will they accept the forensic analysis or reject it? If the latter, will the personal observation testimony be sufficient to convince them, as it was for me?
Did you uncover anything that may prove more important than most people realize?

Fanning: The exquisite ease of making chloroform at home, to my thinking, is a critical part of this story. Not only is it easier than I would have believed possible but, apparently, in some circles, it is the preferred method employed by some date rapists.

The state knows that Casey Anthony researched this subject. If the prosecutors believe she employed it to eliminate her child, a courtroom presentation of this process could prove to be the most dramatic moment in the trial.

Is there an issue in the Caylee Anthony case that you think will be decisive?

Fanning: The most decisive issue in this case is that of premeditation. The prosecution needs to overcome the accident theory and the impulsive moment of passion theory in order to prove its existence. Often, when we think of premeditation, we expect a well-planned crime executed on a pre-determined schedule.

But with many indicators that Casey reacted when she did because of an argument with her mother, the state will need to show that although the actual timing, the day that it happened, might have been an impulsive act prompted by events, it was still backed by months of dogged research and deep contemplation.
What's your take on the relationship between Casey Anthony and her mother – and with her parents in general – and will it have a direct bearing on the outcome?

Fanning: Casey and Cindy Anthony seemed to have an excellent and close mother-daughter relationship before Casey hit puberty. In her early teens, Casey honed her skills in manipulation and deception by practicing on Cindy. It was difficult for Cindy, as it is for any mother, to distinguish between the normal adolescent breaking-away in search of independence and less socially acceptable behavior.

When the latter became obvious, Cindy refused to see it.

With each passing year, Casey became better and bolder with her prevarication and Cindy found it easier to deny the evidence of Casey’s behavior and accept whatever cover stories her daughter concocted. Cindy did not want to believe that her daughter would lie to her and therefore, refused to accept that reality.

George, on the other hand, attempted to question Casey’s version of events on many occasions but when he did his wife took his daughter’s side, racing to her defense. Any parenting expert makes it clear that a united front is vital when raising a teenager. It was there that Cindy and George failed and Casey learned manipulating them one against the other was the best way to insure that she would get whatever she wanted.
Even when the conflict between Casey and Cindy escalated into all-out war after Caylee’s birth, Casey still found it easy to revert to the manipulative behavior needed to get the response from her mother that she wanted. She couldn’t maintain that pleasant demeanor with her mother but she could call on it when all else failed.

Both Cindy and George tended to see the actions of their daughter as a reflection on themselves. George’s response was usually to shoulder the guilt upon himself as a parent instead of placing it on his daughter where it belonged. In the process, he taught Casey that personal responsibility was an unnecessary value.

Cindy, on the other hand, seemed incapable of separating herself and her daughter into two separate people at times. If Casey did something that Cindy could not imagine doing herself, Cindy’s only remaining option was denial—against all evidence, all logic and all common sense.

Cindy’s willingness to do anything to protect her daughter, including the withholding of important evidence, has destroyed her credibility and made even a mother’s plea for mercy in the penalty phase at trial, if it comes to that, meaningless and unmoving.

Is there an element of the case you think is still to be unraveled?

Fanning: Yes -- Who is Caylee’s father?

It is not clear that even Casey Anthony knows the real answer to that question. She’s admitted to at least one sexual encounter with a man whose last name she never knew—there could be many more.

Will someone step forward before the trial? Will some young man quietly submit to DNA testing and when paternity is confirmed, reveal himself as a champion for justice for the daughter he never knew?

It sounds too melodramatic to happen. But all along, this story has been filled with those unexpected, jaw-dropping, head-scratching moments that no one saw coming. Could the appearance of Caylee’s biological father be another one of them?
BONUS QUESTION: What question should Crimesider have asked you that we didn’t... and what’s the answer?

Fanning: Why does this story matter? First and foremost, it matters because Caylee Marie Anthony matters. Because this little girl deserved to experience life from its beginning until its natural end. Because her life was stolen from her, by all indications, by the one person she should have been able to trust more than anyone else in the whole world.
Many ask “What makes Caylee more important than the other toddlers who lose their lives to homicide, unnoticed and uncelebrated in the media?” The answer is simple.

Caylee is more than one little girl—Caylee is the face and the voice for all young innocent children cut down by the cruelty, narcissism and depravity of others.

A generic story about hundreds of murdered children may shock us but it doesn’t have the emotional impact of directly looking into the eyes of one victimized child.

We often hear of stories of massive tragedies where hundreds or thousands of people are killed in a massacre or natural disaster. We are stunned by these large numbers but we cannot feel the texture of the pain, plunge into the depth of the tragedy or draw these victims close to our hearts until a journalist takes us straight to one victim, to the grief of that person’s family and community, to the loss that one individual’s life has brought to the world.

Caylee is just one little girl who deserved to live but when I look at her, I see so much more. I see legions of nameless children who suffered similar fates, lining up behind her demanding justice, pleading for change, begging for protection. And our little Caylee is standing vigil for them all.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 09:18:38 AM
Good Morning!  ::MonkeyAngel::
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I posted this because I need something to laugh this morning. I think I need to thank Brandi.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 09:23:50 AM
Good Morning!  ::MonkeyAngel::
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I posted this because I need something to laugh this morning. I think I need to thank Brandi.  ::MonkeyDevil::


 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 09, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Good Morning!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 09, 2009, 09:47:52 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I saw a pic somewhere of George where you could really see the stud, and it was really some kind of fake or real diamond. There was one in each ear. DUFUS!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122914
Haleigh Anthony & Caylee Anthony – BNN Radio Wrap Up Nov 8
Posted on November 9th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime
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It was the usual interesting 90 minutes. Our panel consisted of Simon and Jan Barrett, TJ Hart, and William Cobra Stuabs. Denny Griffin was unable to be with us, however in his place we had fellow Blog Talk Radio host Levi Page. Levi has been following both the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases, and it was interesting to get a new perspective on them.

We started off on the Caylee Anthony case, late last week the prosecution released another huge dump of documents. Some people are even speculating this in this release is a speck of pure gold that will seal Casey Anthony’s fate. A syringe with traces of chloroform in it. The other interesting document is from an insect specialist, who claims that Coffin flies were found both in the truck of Casey’s car and also at the location where the remains were found.

On the Haleigh Cummings story it was a relatively slow week with little of any substance directly pertaining to the search being released.

On the periphery though there was still lots to talk about. The internet has been awash with allegations that one of the several Haleigh forums is in fact being run by a man who is a convicted child molester. The claims are that in the early 1990’s he raped two girls under the age of 14.

There is also a good deal of speculation doing the rounds about the so called benefit concert held in Austin, Texas. The proceeds of which were supposed to go to Tim Miller’s Equusearch group, Levi Page has been doing some investigation and revealed on air that he has spoken with TES and they have received no money whatsoever from this event. Clearly tickets were sold, although how many is a huge unknown. One set of rumors has it that sales were far less than anticipated, and after costs there was nothing left to donate. This scenario makes for a certain omount sense, while the Haleigh Cumming story has garnered nation and even international attention, holding a cencert in Austin is akin to holding a fund-raiser for your local small town High School Marching Band three states away! Why didn’t the band hold this benefit in Gainsville, Jacksonville, or Ocala, where the Haleigh story is so much better known?

Misty Croslin’s uncle Tommy managed to get himself arrested over a drug issue, and Ruby Kanger’s legal problems continue on in Kentucky.

It appears thet Ronald Cummings via his lawyer has retained at least one private investigator.  I guess Ron himself is too busy chasing exotic dancers to be out searching for his missing daughter!

You can hear the discussion about Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings here.

Once again I would like to thank Levi Page for bringing his insight into the cases, and do hope that he will be participating in future programs.

Simon and Jan Barrett




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 09, 2009, 10:02:12 AM

Wyks-  Excellent!!!!  I think you are spot on with your comments here.  George's angry (enraged, livid, barely contained) outburst of "The person that was in the back of my daughter's car...." was one of the most damaging public statements he's ever made.  Obviously, he outright admitted that there was, in fact, a person in the back of Casey's car.  Moreover, how did HE know that and how did HE know it wasn't Caylee?  Only one of two choices:  Casey told him (which means he knew there was a body in the back of the car at some point-BIG problem for him) or George saw the body himself (even bigger problem given his numerous LE, Grand Jury, state's attorney depos, and ZG depos) and by Lee & Cindy's own accounts, he's the car detailer in the family (Accessory after the fact, Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence, more?).  You accurately pinned George's statement.  In his mind, at that stage of the game (and it was a game to Casey, Cindy, and George- "Hide and No Seek"), he was unable and consciously-subconsciously unwilling to reconcile what he saw in Casey's trunk (IMO) with his leaving, breathing, laughing, playing grandchild.  He was also completely unwilling to believe Casey had killed her.  The overwhelming concern in their minds was taking care of the "problem" by getting rid of the evidence ASAP, IMO.

Additionally, he's the only family member who's thrown up repeatedly when discussing this with LE.  This is significant in itself, but more so in light of his LE employment.  His physical discomfort is a direct manifestation of his fear of LE.  Notice George is angry, defiant, rude, and contemptuous with Morgan & Morgan and the State's Attorneys.  He is smart alecky and contemptuous in court, but not physically sick.  You could almost see the fear and panic rising, when George misinterpreted the line of questioning in the ZG depos.  He thought they were actually questioning him about the last time he saw Caylee.  Within seconds, he became belligerent, almost to the point of hysteria.  His fear and panic, even as the question was still being asked, was nearly palpable.  You could almost "see" him sharply inhale and recoil.  That fear, combined with his recollection of the event, and anger at the people reminding him and "questioning" him about it, provoked his extreme reaction.  ITA with LE, George is a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.  JMOO

Having said that, I empathize in the sense that it would be indescribably traumatic to see the remains of your family member.  Beyond that point, choices were made with the specific goal in mind to get Casey off.  MOO     

Thanks, ISpy!! 

I agree with what you've said here as well.  Which is just one more reason I'm looking at LE in this case with such a mixture of amazement and disgust.  For THIS much (and more) having been done/said by 'other players' in this case, why have there been no further arrrests?  Just gotta wonder if they EVER are going to arrest anyone else for, as you've mentioned, 'Accessory after the fact, Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence, more?'  Had either you, me, or the postman etc, dared to do ANY of what the A's have done/said, our butts would have been nailed to the wall the very first occasion. 

So then I've thought... hmmmm... maybe LE is just biding their time, letting the rope out bit by bit - the one that the A's and whomever may just hang themselves with.  But for pete's sake, how much rope do they need to hang em high?  Sigh.  What possibly could they be waiting on?  Would it jeopardize Casey's case/trial were they to make further arrests now?  Could they be holding off possible future arrests until after her trial?  I just want someone to tell me, assure me, (if possible, lol) that the A's will NOT act in these ways and totally get away with it.  And somehow, it seems that they, under the guise of 'being supportive', blah blah, are only memorializing Caylee by saying 'nanny nanny boo boo', we'll do what we friggin please.   ::MonkeyMad::


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Wyks on November 09, 2009, 10:09:24 AM
where were the other passengers when the photo of the A;s were laying out on the deck of the cruise ship? didn't anyone else want to be around them? only the 4 of them there..


in their private moments, don't you imagine that there has been a time when they have admitted to each other that Casey did murder Caylee? how can they keep lying for that slore? what are they hiding about themselves?

Good points, Cookie! 

Am kind of wondering if, while on that cruise, the A's and Mallory were given 'celebrity status', with the other passengers being cleared from the area before that photo op was done.  Kind of makes it seem that they simply all donned their swim suits, flagged down a passing ship, and hopped aboard just long enough for that pic.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 09, 2009, 10:33:46 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

You could be right, rosebuddy may not know the proper place to wear a seasick disc. I remember a monkey mentioning that while on the cruise, mushroom head told rosebuudy to put a potato in his swim trucks - and rosebuddy put it in the back, not the front.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 10:47:15 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

You could be right, rosebuddy may not know the proper place to wear a seasick disc. I remember a monkey mentioning that while on the cruise, mushroom head told rosebuudy to put a potato in his swim trucks - and rosebuddy put it in the back, not the front.
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish it had been my rotten potato and he sat on it.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 09, 2009, 10:48:50 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

You could be right, rosebuddy may not know the proper place to wear a seasick disc. I remember a monkey mentioning that while on the cruise, mushroom head told rosebuudy to put a potato in his swim trucks - and rosebuddy put it in the back, not the front.

lol! he would have needed a speedo suit for the needed effect though! ewwwwwww....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 09, 2009, 10:52:59 AM
I really thought that George's earrings were a seasick disc. However, I've been looking for them on the net, and they seem to be all worn behind, not on the ear. I just can't believe that he'd wear earrings, but I keep forgetting that this whole family is just bizarre.

I'm not sure what my reaction would be under these horrific circumstances, but getting tattooed, taking a cruise on the dime of exploiting my murdered grandaughter, and hitting a mid life crisis would NOT be it!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

You could be right, rosebuddy may not know the proper place to wear a seasick disc. I remember a monkey mentioning that while on the cruise, mushroom head told rosebuudy to put a potato in his swim trucks - and rosebuddy put it in the back, not the front.
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish it had been my rotten potato and he sat on it.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 09, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Reading back over Pgs. 43-44 reminded me...Does anyone else think it's odd that Caylee named her doll Mama?  I've known lots of little toddler girls and on up and I've never heard one name a doll Mama.  Almost without exception, they name them after a TV show character, family member (like sisters, cousins, aunts), family friends, playmates, or book characters.  I wonder if Caylee named her after the mama in Suppertime For Freida Fuzzypaws?

I had a Mama doll ... my first dollie and my alltime favorite.  I still have her packed away after all these years as she was my most cherished possession - my best toy.   The Mama doll stems from the many, many manufactured dolls that when you bend them forward and then backward in a rocking motion, there is a mechanism inside the cloth tummy which makes a sound saying: "Mama" ...  More than likely, Cindy had a Mama doll too, or ... Caylee's litle doll also had the same sound mechanism.  I really don't think the fact that Caylee's dollie was called "Mama" means anything at all.
I'm just jumping in, I haven't read anything else, so please forgive me if this has been covered.  I seem to recall that Cindy said that the Mama doll had been Casey's as a little girl.   I could sort of see that, they gave it to her and said this is "Mama's doll", trying to explain it, and the name stuck.  That's what I remember, but the synapses aren't all firing today, I had to clean the whole basement, including my office,  because the carpet cleaners are coming today.  On a side note, I can't believe we live in such squalor!  (This is my usual battle cry whenever I have to clean.   Bah!
Oh, and Good Morning, Monkeys! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: kdel on November 09, 2009, 11:34:57 AM
Good morning everyone!! I'm desperately trying to catch up but had a thought (sorry if it's been covered).  About the doll: I was thinking KC may have put the chloroform on Caylee's doll hoping she would hug the doll and pass out from fumes? Ugh...breaks my heart to even think about!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 09, 2009, 11:41:49 AM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?

It was said that Georgie went to work since he was beginning a new job. But I am not sure it was ever really verified he was there. The job didn't last long, at any rate. Maybe he did an hour or two cleaning before he went to work while Spindy went back to work, and when she finally did return, she finished up. I cannot imagine Spindy going back to work unless she knew the car was being taken care of. I think the garbage bag was retrieved from the Anthony's garbage can, and after Spindy did the cleaning on the other items, they were put back so it would look like that is how they found it. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 11:59:13 AM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?

It was said that Georgie went to work since he was beginning a new job. But I am not sure it was ever really verified he was there. The job didn't last long, at any rate. Maybe he did an hour or two cleaning before he went to work while Spindy went back to work, and when she finally did return, she finished up. I cannot imagine Spindy going back to work unless she knew the car was being taken care of. I think the garbage bag was retrieved from the Anthony's garbage can, and after Spindy did the cleaning on the other items, they were put back so it would look like that is how they found it. JMO

I meant to add that the "garbage bag" that was retrieved from the Anthonys probably wasn't in the car, but it was what the items they found in the car were put into. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 09, 2009, 12:01:39 PM
Girlz,  I agree.  But along with all her other disgusting habits, she obviously displayed some exhibitionism,  look at all her pics.  In her mind, she's "all that".

Oh, yes.... there is that!  LOL  And she probably would never believe that she would get caught at anything that she couldn't 'mistruth' away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
Good morning everyone!! I'm desperately trying to catch up but had a thought (sorry if it's been covered).  About the doll: I was thinking KC may have put the chloroform on Caylee's doll hoping she would hug the doll and pass out from fumes? Ugh...breaks my heart to even think about!  ::MonkeyWaa::

The doll originally tested positive for traces of chloroform at first, but when later tested, it only showed urine stains. I wondered if trace amounts chloroform was already in Caylee's system when she lost control of her bladder.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 12:05:03 PM
Another thing about the car, it wasn't picked up right away. The police were not on the scene with Spindy and Georgie all the time while the LE had KC taking her hither and yon before they arrested her. Some of the neighbors even reported the car was parked outside with the trunk opened. No telling how much cleaning that car really got before it was impounded. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 09, 2009, 12:12:45 PM
Good morning everyone!! I'm desperately trying to catch up but had a thought (sorry if it's been covered).  About the doll: I was thinking KC may have put the chloroform on Caylee's doll hoping she would hug the doll and pass out from fumes? Ugh...breaks my heart to even think about!  ::MonkeyWaa::

The doll originally tested positive for traces of chloroform at first, but when later tested, it only showed urine stains. I wondered if trace amounts chloroform was already in Caylee's system when she lost control of her bladder.  ::MonkeyWaa::
That was my thought, too, Fanny.  I really don't want to think about these things, but if it means finding out the truth and seeing justice done, I guess it's worth it.  I have always had respect for first responders to tragedy, but since I've followed this case so closely, my admiration for LE knows no bounds.  I have nightmares and daymares about the anguish of these little children, but I'm sure it can't compare to what those who deal with this on a daily basis go through.  It really helps me when I get agitated about Caylee's death to come here and vent, and know that there are other people who are as affected as I am.  Then I start thinking how complete strangers seem to be more compassionate than the A's, and I get angry again.  (Okay, I'll stop now.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 09, 2009, 12:17:15 PM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?

Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

The bag wasn't with the Anthony family, it was removed from the car at the tow yard and thrown in the trash where it was retrieved later. Had it got back to the home we wouldn't have the evidence we do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 12:29:24 PM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?

Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

The bag wasn't with the Anthony family, it was removed from the car at the tow yard and thrown in the trash where it was retrieved later. Had it got back to the home we wouldn't have the evidence we do.


Hi MIKI!  ::MonkeyKiss::
There was another bag of garbage at the Anthonys that was retrieved from their garbage can. Either Spindy or Georgie gave it to the LE.
The original so called stinky bag was retrieved from the tow yard the night of July 15/16. It was in an early-on doc dump.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 09, 2009, 12:29:43 PM
Good morning everyone!! I'm desperately trying to catch up but had a thought (sorry if it's been covered).  About the doll: I was thinking KC may have put the chloroform on Caylee's doll hoping she would hug the doll and pass out from fumes? Ugh...breaks my heart to even think about!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Okay, I admit to being a little hit and miss reading all of documents.... can someone clarify for me:  Was it definitely chloroform traces on the doll?  I had read that there were stains of urine on the body of the doll.  Was there both?  Was urine ruled out?  Was there traces of chlorform in little Caylee's urine???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 09, 2009, 12:31:23 PM
If someone can clarify for me;  When did the Ants clean the car? George is the "detailer", but he was at work. Cindy went back to work.  Was it cleaned and then garbage bags put back in it?  Why leave diaper bag, mama, ect, but taked the clothes and shoes to be washed?  I can't wrap my head around this part, what am I missing?

It was said that Georgie went to work since he was beginning a new job. But I am not sure it was ever really verified he was there. The job didn't last long, at any rate. Maybe he did an hour or two cleaning before he went to work while Spindy went back to work, and when she finally did return, she finished up. I cannot imagine Spindy going back to work unless she knew the car was being taken care of. I think the garbage bag was retrieved from the Anthony's garbage can, and after Spindy did the cleaning on the other items, they were put back so it would look like that is how they found it. JMO

or, is the garbage bag the one that the police retrieved from the dumpster near the towyard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 09, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
Good morning everyone!! I'm desperately trying to catch up but had a thought (sorry if it's been covered).  About the doll: I was thinking KC may have put the chloroform on Caylee's doll hoping she would hug the doll and pass out from fumes? Ugh...breaks my heart to even think about!  ::MonkeyWaa::

The doll originally tested positive for traces of chloroform at first, but when later tested, it only showed urine stains. I wondered if trace amounts chloroform was already in Caylee's system when she lost control of her bladder.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thanks, Fanny, you answered just the question i was wondering about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Girlzrock on November 09, 2009, 12:37:35 PM
Good Morning everyone!

Guess I learned my lesson.... just read and all my questions will be answered.  Silly me, should know this by now!  I am constantly in awe of your collective memory and attention to detail! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 12:54:58 PM
Good Morning everyone!

Guess I learned my lesson.... just read and all my questions will be answered.  Silly me, should know this by now!  I am constantly in awe of your collective memory and attention to detail! 

Sometimes I wish I didn't know so many details and mostly retained them.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 09, 2009, 01:01:06 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 09, 2009, 01:14:29 PM
I've read about half of Diana Fanning's book and it is well written, using LE interviews, documents and her own interviews with various witnesses and Casey's ex-friends.  She makes it clear that Casey is innocent until proven guilty (IMO in a court of law only) and does not accuse her.  She reports what is known to the public along with some comments I hadn't heard before. 

I don't consider this book any different from all the other books about true crime, murders, etc.  This is what Ms. Fanning does for a living and she is compensated for it, just like all the other authors.  I do have a big problem with relatives of murder victims making a career and money off of the death.

I also have a problem with someone the age of Cindy Anthony getting a big tattoo on their belly.  She is essentially trash.

I stopped reading Mark Furhman's book because there are just too many inaccuracies in it, i.e. Lee is 36 years old and Cindy is straightlaced.  I might go back to it if I get desperate for reading material.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 01:49:35 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Several reasons, one of which is the tow yard owner knew what that smell was, and the Anthonys were not sure he would not report it to the police. Another is Spindy blabbed to Amy that it smelled of death. I know there are more, but I can't think of them now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 09, 2009, 01:55:13 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Several reasons, one of which is the tow yard owner knew what that smell was, and the Anthonys were not sure he would not report it to the police. Another is Spindy blabbed to Amy that it smelled of death. I know there are more, but I can't think of them now.
Yes, now that makes sense.  I have problems wrapping my mind around different scenarios, of who knew what, when.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 09, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Several reasons, one of which is the tow yard owner knew what that smell was, and the Anthonys were not sure he would not report it to the police. Another is Spindy blabbed to Amy that it smelled of death. I know there are more, but I can't think of them now.
Didn't she also tell her co-workers that there was a terrible smell in the car?  The Anthonys just can't keep their mouths shut and it will all come to bite them in the butt in due time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 02:24:31 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Several reasons, one of which is the tow yard owner knew what that smell was, and the Anthonys were not sure he would not report it to the police. Another is Spindy blabbed to Amy that it smelled of death. I know there are more, but I can't think of them now.
Didn't she also tell her co-workers that there was a terrible smell in the car?  The Anthonys just can't keep their mouths shut and it will all come to bite them in the butt in due time.

IMO, when CA blurted that out on the phone, it was the one and only time in this entire saga that she was bewildered, afraid and HONEST. At that split second in time I think she was sick with fear that since kc was right there and Caylee wasn't, alarm bells were screaming in her head and she was not in spin mode, not yet.
Once the realization hit, then the cover up began, why is the real question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=589
Casey Anthony furious over Tot Mom play, can report be trusted?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 9 - 2009
Casey Anthony play Tot Mom
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Casey Anthony is furious over the Steven Soderbergh play Tot Mom, according to a report by the National Enquirer. Though many are also upset that Steven Soderbergh has turned the saga of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first degree murder of her daughter, Caylee Anthony, many wonder if the National Enquirer report is true.


The National Enquire wrote an article titled, “Casey rants over play about Caylee” and continues to quote an anonymous jail source who describes Casey Anthony’s demeanor after hearing that Soderbergh would run the play from December 18, 2009 until January 31, 2010. The play is set to star Cate Blanchett and Essie Davis.


According to the Orlando Sentinel’s Hal Boedeker, the report is a complete fabrication as his sources from the Orlando County Jail have revealed. The National Enquirer has a history of fabricating stories and often prints stories that border on factual truths.


The Enquirer published the first photo of Jaycee Dugard that was on the back of Phillip Garrido’s business card. After the publication, spokesperson for the Jaycee Dugard family quickly took to the media to denounce the image as not being Jaycee. Both Casey Anthony and Jaycee Dugard’s case have garnered plenty of media attention and it is common in high profile cases for certain publications to fabricate stories to promote sales.
According to the Orlando Sentinel  and Hal Boedeker’s sources, Casey Anthony has never acted out in jail or created a disturbance. A quote from Allen Moore, in Boedeker’s article states that the Enquirer has shown little regard for truth when it pertains to Casey Anthony.


The play Tot Mom was written from police reports, discovery released to the public, and episodes from the Nancy Grace show. No one from the Anthony family, nor Casey Anthony herself stands to gain anything from the play.


Casey Anthony is expected to stand trial in the summer of 2010.

You may read the National Enquirer article here.http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_caylee_steven_soderbergh_tot_mom/celebrity/67623


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 02:59:07 PM
Hey Monkeys!  I've missed you guys!  Work has been brutal, and I had to take a step back to "save" (regain?) my sanity....

I'm catching up, but one thing I don't seem to be able to find is transcripts from the interviews with LP and Tracy.  Were they ever released?  Thanks in advance!

(And thanks, Brandi, for "sprucing me up"!)  Muah!  Muah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 09, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 03:07:27 PM
Hey Monkeys!  I've missed you guys!  Work has been brutal, and I had to take a step back to "save" (regain?) my sanity....

I'm catching up, but one thing I don't seem to be able to find is transcripts from the interviews with LP and Tracy.  Were they ever released?  Thanks in advance!

(And thanks, Brandi, for "sprucing me up"!)  Muah!  Muah!

Here you go.   ::MonkeyBike::  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d10-New-audio-files-released-in-Casey-Anthony-case-listen-now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 03:10:17 PM
Irish Monkey they are posted here also.  http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/09/04/cayleecasey-anthony-case-padilla-interviews-released-today/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:10:24 PM
Hey Monkeys!  I've missed you guys!  Work has been brutal, and I had to take a step back to "save" (regain?) my sanity....

I'm catching up, but one thing I don't seem to be able to find is transcripts from the interviews with LP and Tracy.  Were they ever released?  Thanks in advance!

(And thanks, Brandi, for "sprucing me up"!)  Muah!  Muah!

Here you go.   ::MonkeyBike::  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d10-New-audio-files-released-in-Casey-Anthony-case-listen-now


Thanks Trim!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 09, 2009, 03:14:32 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?

Nevermind, the Gatoraide bottle was found in the backback, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 03:29:19 PM
Why would anyone bother to sterilize a needle when preparing to kill someone with it? Surely not for re-use....  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Several reasons, one of which is the tow yard owner knew what that smell was, and the Anthonys were not sure he would not report it to the police. Another is Spindy blabbed to Amy that it smelled of death. I know there are more, but I can't think of them now.
Didn't she also tell her co-workers that there was a terrible smell in the car?  The Anthonys just can't keep their mouths shut and it will all come to bite them in the butt in due time.

IMO, when CA blurted that out on the phone, it was the one and only time in this entire saga that she was bewildered, afraid and HONEST. At that split second in time I think she was sick with fear that since kc was right there and Caylee wasn't, alarm bells were screaming in her head and she was not in spin mode, not yet.
Once the realization hit, then the cover up began, why is the real question.

Yes, Panic over-rode everything else. As soon as that calmed down the lying began and has never stopped.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 03:33:14 PM
I've read about half of Diana Fanning's book and it is well written, using LE interviews, documents and her own interviews with various witnesses and Casey's ex-friends.  She makes it clear that Casey is innocent until proven guilty (IMO in a court of law only) and does not accuse her.  She reports what is known to the public along with some comments I hadn't heard before. 

I don't consider this book any different from all the other books about true crime, murders, etc.  This is what Ms. Fanning does for a living and she is compensated for it, just like all the other authors.  I do have a big problem with relatives of murder victims making a career and money off of the death.

I also have a problem with someone the age of Cindy Anthony getting a big tattoo on their belly.  She is essentially trash.

I stopped reading Mark Furhman's book because there are just too many inaccuracies in it, i.e. Lee is 36 years old and Cindy is straightlaced.  I might go back to it if I get desperate for reading material.

I agree, I started to read Mark Fuhrman's book online, the first chapter was so full of inaccuracies regarding the case- not opinions, but documented facts that I lost faith rapidly, which surprised me, because I thought better of him than to be that careless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NM on November 09, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
CC
the gatorade bottle w/ needle was found in a plastic Disney bag near Caylee's remains.
PS Love your posts. Thx.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 03:46:27 PM
Hey Monkeys!  I've missed you guys!  Work has been brutal, and I had to take a step back to "save" (regain?) my sanity....

I'm catching up, but one thing I don't seem to be able to find is transcripts from the interviews with LP and Tracy.  Were they ever released?  Thanks in advance!

(And thanks, Brandi, for "sprucing me up"!)  Muah!  Muah!
IRISH! I have wondered about you. I have hung in here and now I am way-far over the edge of sanity!!!! Yes, the interviews were released! And much, much more. I am so glad to see you! I always download the PDF's to a file, so I don't have the exact links, but I am sure some smart monkey here can direct you to them.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?

I am praying the syringe was used to draw the chloroform out of the bottom of the bottle where it separates but in my heart, I feel she injected Caylee with it. Here I go again... ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:50:54 PM
Hey Monkeys!  I've missed you guys!  Work has been brutal, and I had to take a step back to "save" (regain?) my sanity....

I'm catching up, but one thing I don't seem to be able to find is transcripts from the interviews with LP and Tracy.  Were they ever released?  Thanks in advance!

(And thanks, Brandi, for "sprucing me up"!)  Muah!  Muah!
IRISH! I have wondered about you. I have hung in here and now I am way-far over the edge of sanity!!!! Yes, the interviews were released! And much, much more. I am so glad to see you! I always download the PDF's to a file, so I don't have the exact links, but I am sure some smart monkey here can direct you to them.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Thanks Fanny!  My firm has gone through three staff reductions since I last swung on a vine here...but I'm still swinging!  And trying, to get caught up.  Just when I think nothing more in this case can cause me to be surprised, astounded, and mortified, I am proven wrong!         WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:51:33 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?

I am praying the syringe was used to draw the chloroform out of the bottom of the bottle where it separates but in my heart, I feel she injected Caylee with it. Here I go again... ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Deep breaths, honey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 03:51:51 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:52:35 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 03:53:49 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?

I am praying the syringe was used to draw the chloroform out of the bottom of the bottle where it separates but in my heart, I feel she injected Caylee with it. Here I go again... ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
::MonkeyAngel::


Deep breaths, honey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 03:54:53 PM
Could it be that the syringe has nothing to do with this case and was found with the chloraform to be used as a type of bleach to sterilze the needle?

I am praying the syringe was used to draw the chloroform out of the bottom of the bottle where it separates but in my heart, I feel she injected Caylee with it. Here I go again... ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Deep breaths, honey!
::MonkeyAngel:: I got in your box, but you knew that!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
And I'm sure this has been noted, but I just read the transcripts of the LE interviews of Sindy, Geo and Lee.  UNBELIEVABLE.  The two parents couldn't tell the truth to save their own lives.  I have never been witness to so many "mistruths" and "misdirections" in my life.  I smell perjury charges coming, after the fact......

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 03:58:14 PM
And don't even get me started on the cruise....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 09, 2009, 04:00:02 PM
Nite all!  Stock market is closing, and I'm headed for home.  It's great to catch back up with y'all.  Have a blessed evening!

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 04:04:17 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

Exactly. The way we've all been able to see the way CA lies, that phone call didn't seem to have any of her trademark smirks, sarcasm, outrageous details, transference of blame etc. , that whole afternoon she probably was livid. she couldn't wait to confront kc and wring the story out of her but when it was clear that Caylee wasn't  being held from  just her, for two seconds, it was all about Caylee. But then.................like you said, to this day, lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 09, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

Had they already gone into ultra spin mode by the time they got there? The "tow guy threw out a pile of stinky garbage" ? I'll need to back and check the account of all that. I can only guess that by the time the police arrived the cover up had begun and as we've all seen, the entire family convoluters screaming/talking at once maybe threw the officers off their game a little? There's been a few times that the local LE seemed a little lax


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 04:41:51 PM


Had they already gone into ultra spin mode by the time they got there? The "tow guy threw out a pile of stinky garbage" ? I'll need to back and check the account of all that. I can only guess that by the time the police arrived the cover up had begun and as we've all seen, the entire family convoluters screaming/talking at once maybe threw the officers off their game a little? There's been a few times that the local LE seemed a little lax

Gosh, I can only imagine how the officers felt after just a few minutes of those nuts! I'd a been thrown off my game too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 09, 2009, 04:42:29 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Hi, DD, Hi WO, Hi Fanny Mae---I agree.  That telephone call seems to be the last and in fact only time Cindy-poo has told the truth. Then the coverup set in.  Clean the car, remove and clean contents, etc.  Cindy and George, by that time, knew exactly what they were doing and why they were doing it, IMO.

I am disappointed that those two morons haven't been charged with anything.  The statute of limitations is running on all of the actions with which they might be charged and I honestly think LE will never charge them. They've been through enough, doncha know?

It is too horrible for me to contemplate that Casey might have injected Caylee with chloroform. But, OMG, I think she probably did.  Maybe she put the tape over her mouth so she wouldn't scream.  I'd like to put duct tape over all of their mouths, but I am not a criminal so I'll leave it to them to cook their own goose.

I've also come to believe it likely that Casey did kill Caylee at home on the 16th. After George went to work, she came back and did the deed, IMO, because the material she needed was there at home and if she had left in a huff the night before she wouldn't have had what she needed to torture and kill sweet little Caylee.  Of course she could have left the night before and come back the next day to complete her plans.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 09, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
I could never clean out a car trunk thinking, knowing that my grand daughter was the reason for me cleaning out the car and for the smell coming from that trunk. because she had been dead in that trunk!!..I could never, ever do it! the car could go to the junk yard or to the police repo area for all I would care... I would not want the vehicle back and I certainly could never use sponges and paper towels etc to clean up traces of my grand daughter!  and especially to cover up for the person who had murdered her!  but that is just me....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 05:01:58 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 3:54 pm EST November 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New evidence released in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition, Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.
That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car. Investigators also said they found a Gatorade bottle with a syringe inside that showed traces of chloroform near Caylee's remains in the woods off Suburban Drive.

"My reaction is now I understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty. You now have the premeditation filled in. You now have the cause of death filled in," attorney Richard Hornsby said.

"They confirm Caylee was dead at the time Casey had the car. In fact, she was trying to conceal the car from everybody else," Hornsby said of the so-called coffin flies found in Anthony's car.

Hornsby said that there are now multiple reliable scientific opinions based on insects, plant growth and from the medical examiner that the remains were dumped in late June or early July -- not by someone else after Anthony was locked up as her defense argues.

Hornsby said the syringe further removes reasonable doubt about how Caylee died.
"The chloroform is the smoking gun. It's the nail in the coffin, and the duct tape supports the imposition of the death penalty," he said.

Based on the new evidence, Hornsby said it's time for Anthony's defense team to strongly reconsider their all or nothing strategy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 05:03:04 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?
No, George told them to some degree about the smell, and related it to the garbage bag that was thrown away at the tow yard, ( he knew better than to think it was garbage after driving it home without being able to breathe for the stink)  so Yuri Melich went over there late that pm and retrieved it. There is debate whether Cindy's remarks regarding the smell of a dead body in the damn car" were ever relayed by the EMS operator, to the responding Police....  interesting to see how that comes out.  At that point LE knew next to nothing about Casey and were starting the investigation into her story of kidnapping etc. After they got the measure of her with all her lies, job/friends/Zanny/ the next day,they went in an entirely different direction. Also Simon Birch the manager of the tow yard had second thoughts about the garbage when he heard on the news next am about Caylee being missing- he called Yuri and discussed the garbage and the smell of decomposition and - LE picked up the car and....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:09:37 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police?  

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

The car was closed up in the garage, and I don't think the first LE focused so much on the car, but where KC said she last saw Caylee. Thus the drive around that night and the next day. I think they were investigating a missing Caylee, and not a dead Caylee at the very beginning. It has never made any sense to me to have left the car in the possession of the Anthonys that long.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 05:09:42 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police? 

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

ddex - iirc Geo. p/u car from tow yard and put it into the closed garage.
Casey took the police on that wild goose chase - sawgrass apt's, her phony workplace.  I've often wondered if that time wasting by Casey was deliberate and she knew that her parents would do what they could to clean up after her.  Cindy took all kinds of stuff from the car and washed
it, including a pair of Casey's trousers, the knife etc.
The evidence in that vehicle was impossible to clean as we have seen by the reports.
I digress, anyway I think it was after the interview w/Casey that the police returned to the Anthony residence and took the car into custody.
It has always bothered me greatly that Cindy had any opportunity at all to mess with the evidence.   ::MonkeyMad::


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 09, 2009, 05:17:06 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

Wow, seeme, somehow I missed that, she must be really flattered to know that.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 05:18:43 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 ::MonkeyRoll::  Yep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 09, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 3:54 pm EST November 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New evidence released in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition, Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.
That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car. Investigators also said they found a Gatorade bottle with a syringe inside that showed traces of chloroform near Caylee's remains in the woods off Suburban Drive.

"My reaction is now I understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty. You now have the premeditation filled in. You now have the cause of death filled in," attorney Richard Hornsby said.

"They confirm Caylee was dead at the time Casey had the car. In fact, she was trying to conceal the car from everybody else," Hornsby said of the so-called coffin flies found in Anthony's car.

Hornsby said that there are now multiple reliable scientific opinions based on insects, plant growth and from the medical examiner that the remains were dumped in late June or early July -- not by someone else after Anthony was locked up as her defense argues.

Hornsby said the syringe further removes reasonable doubt about how Caylee died.
"The chloroform is the smoking gun. It's the nail in the coffin, and the duct tape supports the imposition of the death penalty," he said.

Based on the new evidence, Hornsby said it's time for Anthony's defense team to strongly reconsider their all or nothing strategy.

I doubt they will do that though, LKB wants her day in court to argue against the expert testimony ( and she needs the publicity for her book) and Lyons wants to save Casey from the DP ( and she needs the publicity for her book).
That leaves Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 05:28:41 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 EWWWW, ya know I always tend to focus my repulsion on spindy and georgie but Lee and his C M A jungle howl just came in my memory. Again, how could he want to send that lying, baby killing sister of his a message of undying love????  Again and again, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT FAMILY????????????  What is wrong with Mallory, she can't be that desparate to take backseat to everyone, surely profitting from the fraudation can't be that lucrative


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 09, 2009, 05:28:53 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 ::MonkeyRoll::  Yep.

also don't forget the part where Casey said that Lee had tried to have sex with her ! wonder if Mallory questioned Lee about that one! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
Small Flies Could Be Big Evidence Against Anthony
Hundreds Of Pages Of Anthony Case Documents Available

POSTED: 1:26 pm EST November 5, 2009
UPDATED: 3:54 pm EST November 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New evidence released in the case against Casey Anthony may finally include the smoking gun prosecutors have been seeking since her arrest.

According to forensic reports, the presence of microscopic flies in Anthony's trunk is important because the flies feed on decomposition. Reports indicated the insects were also found at the site where Caylee Anthony's body was found in December.

The forensic report was dated Sept. 22, 2009. Inside the trunk and a trash bag from Anthony's car, investigators recovered a large number of so-called coffin flies, which are gnats that feed on human decomposition.

Forensic botanist Neal Haskell concluded that a large number of the insects found on paper towels inside a trash bag meant there was decompositional fluid on the towels.

"Given the association of the towels with the car, it seems most likely that the paper toweling was used in an attempt to clean the decompositional fluids purged from the remains in the trunk of the car," the report stated.

In addition, Haskell said the insects found in Caylee's skeletalized remains and near the body indicated insects started colonizing there in late June or early July 2008.
That would contradict a claim from Anthony's defense team that someone else put the remains in the woods after she was jailed in October.

FBI lab reports also indicated traces of chloroform on four pieces of trunk liner taken from Anthony's car. Investigators also said they found a Gatorade bottle with a syringe inside that showed traces of chloroform near Caylee's remains in the woods off Suburban Drive.

"My reaction is now I understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty. You now have the premeditation filled in. You now have the cause of death filled in," attorney Richard Hornsby said.

"They confirm Caylee was dead at the time Casey had the car. In fact, she was trying to conceal the car from everybody else," Hornsby said of the so-called coffin flies found in Anthony's car.

Hornsby said that there are now multiple reliable scientific opinions based on insects, plant growth and from the medical examiner that the remains were dumped in late June or early July -- not by someone else after Anthony was locked up as her defense argues.

Hornsby said the syringe further removes reasonable doubt about how Caylee died.
"The chloroform is the smoking gun. It's the nail in the coffin, and the duct tape supports the imposition of the death penalty," he said.

Based on the new evidence, Hornsby said it's time for Anthony's defense team to strongly reconsider their all or nothing strategy.

I doubt they will do that though, LKB wants her day in court to argue against the expert testimony ( and she needs the publicity for her book) and Lyons wants to save Casey from the DP ( and she needs the publicity for her book).
That leaves Baez.

  And Baez will need publicity for his book, yet to be written, but astronomical odds that it will hit the stores shortly after all of this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
Thanks folks, If they cleaned the car after smelling death, then what was the point of calling police? 

Cindy called the police at first to call Casey's 'bluff' as she thought and force her to return Caylee to her- at that point she thought KC was just being vicious in keeping Caylee away from her. Once Casey was back at the house, was even more evasive,lying and Cindy knew it, Lee was able to extract from her the "I haven't seen my baby in 31 days story'- so Cindy calls again, in a panic, not knowing what Casey "had done" but half believing the Zanny story, and then after the calls were made she was able to think of the full implications, Caylee missing, smell of death, Casey lying her azz off as usual, and the light dawned. Then she started denying, lying, covering, and is to this day.   

I'm on the branch with you, because I think that is exactly what happened. Spindy didn't really know before, but she damned sure knew it right after she hung up that phone on the third 911 call.

Move on over, if there is room for one more....
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

ddex - iirc Geo. p/u car from tow yard and put it into the closed garage.
Casey took the police on that wild goose chase - sawgrass apt's, her phony workplace.  I've often wondered if that time wasting by Casey was deliberate and she knew that her parents would do what they could to clean up after her.  Cindy took all kinds of stuff from the car and washed
it, including a pair of Casey's trousers, the knife etc.
The evidence in that vehicle was impossible to clean as we have seen by the reports.
I digress, anyway I think it was after the interview w/Casey that the police returned to the Anthony residence and took the car into custody.
It has always bothered me greatly that Cindy had any opportunity at all to mess with the evidence.   ::MonkeyMad::


 

One of the HUGE reasons why I believe Cindy has been the ring-leader of cover up.....In July interview Cindy gives the FBI the 2nd kidnapping scenario at Blanchard Park.........this was never discussed with Casey in any of the video jail visits or phone calls to any family members from her arrest July 16th. Lee, months later stated this 2nd scenario wasn't divulged by Casey to him until her after release from jail August 21st. So, either (1) this was either discussed between Casey and Cindy from July 15th when she picked Casey up from Tony's and her arrest late afternoon July 16th.......(2)Cindy made this scenario up herself as part of her cover-up plan/script. IMO

Cindy and Casey had from IIRC 8am July 16th until her arrest in the afternoon of the same day. Yes, Cindy said they spent that time making her myspace for Caylee. I have the original times she downloaded the pictures of Caylee to her photobucket and myspace. They were downloaded between 8-8:40am. (40 minutes)Quite a few hours remained for clean-up, destroy evidence, and to create more fictional stories.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 05:33:31 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 ::MonkeyRoll::  Yep.

also don't forget the part where Casey said that Lee had tried to have sex with her ! wonder if Mallory questioned Lee about that one! ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

Ugh! You're right! I should just keep my mouth shut! Starting to really confuse so much of this, and wind up looking like a fool!  ::MonkeyConfused:: Sorry!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?
No, George told them to some degree about the smell, and related it to the garbage bag that was thrown away at the tow yard, ( he knew better than to think it was garbage after driving it home without being able to breathe for the stink)  so Yuri Melich went over there late that pm and retrieved it. There is debate whether Cindy's remarks regarding the smell of a dead body in the damn car" were ever relayed by the EMS operator, to the responding Police....  interesting to see how that comes out.  At that point LE knew next to nothing about Casey and were starting the investigation into her story of kidnapping etc. After they got the measure of her with all her lies, job/friends/Zanny/ the next day,they went in an entirely different direction. Also Simon Birch the manager of the tow yard had second thoughts about the garbage when he heard on the news next am about Caylee being missing- he called Yuri and discussed the garbage and the smell of decomposition and - LE picked up the car and....

Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 05:39:01 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

That's what I remember too Fanny.  Is that when greedy Cindy snatched the cash from Casey's wallet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:42:48 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 EWWWW, ya know I always tend to focus my repulsion on spindy and georgie but Lee and his C M A jungle howl just came in my memory. Again, how could he want to send that lying, baby killing sister of his a message of undying love????  Again and again, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT FAMILY????????????  What is wrong with Mallory, she can't be that desparate to take backseat to everyone, surely profitting from the fraudation can't be that lucrative

Well, she DID get to go on a cruise....... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 05:43:31 PM
Seemeatthebeach.  I agree, Cindy is the ringleader and Geo. keeps tripping himself up trying to dance to her tune.  Liars all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:44:28 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

YUP!  ::MonkeyCool::

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

That's what I remember too Fanny.  Is that when greedy Cindy snatched the cash from Casey's wallet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

That's what I remember too Fanny.  Is that when greedy Cindy snatched the cash from Casey's wallet?

I meant Yup!  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 05:47:11 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 05:49:43 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

That's what I remember too Fanny.  Is that when greedy Cindy snatched the cash from Casey's wallet?

I meant Yup!  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyHaHa::- thanks Fanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 09, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



maybe...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

Ugh! You're right! I should just keep my mouth shut! Starting to really confuse so much of this, and wind up looking like a fool!  ::MonkeyConfused:: Sorry!

No, GIZZIE, don't do that. I am wrong a lot of the time too. I can look like a bigger fool than you most any day.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 05:54:06 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:54:52 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 ::MonkeyRoll::  Yep.

also don't forget the part where Casey said that Lee had tried to have sex with her ! wonder if Mallory questioned Lee about that one! ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder if he has tried to have sex with Malibu yet???  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Uh Oh. I might get a smack for that one......(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 05:56:49 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 09, 2009, 05:58:06 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



maybe...

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:58:19 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



Nope! He'll just glaze over and keep remembering the $$$$$$'s, the trips, the cruises, the tats, the bread pudding, the diamond studs, his new wardrobe, his fine tan, and what kind of sports car he is going to get. He won't spill the beans. JoJo's time to do the right thing has long past. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 09, 2009, 05:59:04 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



Yes, I do.  I think he will not only spill those beans, but he will spill whatever he had for lunch.  George loses his nerve when lovely Cindy is not there to dig her claws into his thigh.  There's a chance he will repeat what he said to the Grand Jury, which must have been powerful as it resulted in the indictment. And the SA has a transcript of his GJ testimony, so he can hardly deny it.  No Wait.  He can deny it.  They change their stories all the time.  But this time it can get him thrown in jail.  Well, one can hope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 05:59:53 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-jumping4.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-jumping4.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-jumping4.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-jumping4.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 09, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
Fanny...who is Malibu? thanks...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 06:01:27 PM
Mike G. talking about Casey case on HLN now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:02:14 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



Yes, I do.  I think he will not only spill those beans, but he will spill whatever he had for lunch.  George loses his nerve when lovely Cindy is not there to dig her claws into his thigh.  There's a chance he will repeat what he said to the Grand Jury, which must have been powerful as it resulted in the indictment. And the SA has a transcript of his GJ testimony, so he can hardly deny it.  No Wait.  He can deny it.  They change their stories all the time.  But this time it can get him thrown in jail.  Well, one can hope.

I certainly don't see the SA allowing George to yell at them and tell them not to mention the word "remains" again!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:03:03 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



maybe...

Umm, maybe but he's had a lot of time to make out a list of pros and cons ( truth doesn't factor into those), he's seemingly made up with cincin and their united stand has probably been jackhammered into him for hours and hours and hours. I believe at heart he is a coward that assesses which situation will best benefit him. caylee is a sweet memory by now, memorialized in a fugly tattoo. I think a lot of his drama about the "remains" was for effect. He was defiant and overly aggressive during that supposed show of indignation. If that really bothered him, seems more likely he would've shown despair or hopelessness about that reference. As always just my view.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:04:16 PM
Fanny...who is Malibu? thanks...

Mallory. She must have the lowest self esteem of anyone I have ever heard of.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 06:04:31 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
I am still conflicted, the car has this unmiskenable smell.  So the clean up would have been in the wee night hours, after police left?  Why did the police leave the car if it smelled so bad?

I have wanted the answer to this as well. They had to have been able to smell it too. Wasn't a female officer going thru the car too? Wonder why no one questioned it or brought it up?

I don't remember a female officer going through the car. I remember a female officer going through KC's belongings when Lee brought them home from Tone's. JMO

Ugh! You're right! I should just keep my mouth shut! Starting to really confuse so much of this, and wind up looking like a fool!  ::MonkeyConfused:: Sorry!

No, GIZZIE, don't do that. I am wrong a lot of the time too. I can look like a bigger fool than you most any day.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Doubt that!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:06:50 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:06:58 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



Yes, I do.  I think he will not only spill those beans, but he will spill whatever he had for lunch.  George loses his nerve when lovely Cindy is not there to dig her claws into his thigh.  There's a chance he will repeat what he said to the Grand Jury, which must have been powerful as it resulted in the indictment. And the SA has a transcript of his GJ testimony, so he can hardly deny it.  No Wait.  He can deny it.  They change their stories all the time.  But this time it can get him thrown in jail.  Well, one can hope.
::MonkeyHaHa::                     I hope, I hope, I hope


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 09, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I'm not getting my hopes up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 09, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus


 EWWWW, ya know I always tend to focus my repulsion on spindy and georgie but Lee and his C M A jungle howl just came in my memory. Again, how could he want to send that lying, baby killing sister of his a message of undying love????  Again and again, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT FAMILY????????????  What is wrong with Mallory, she can't be that desparate to take backseat to everyone, surely profitting from the fraudation can't be that lucrative

Well, she DID get to go on a cruise....... ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: A teeny tiny one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?


I wish, I wish!!
No, I don't think he will spill the beans.  I think the jury though will see him for what he is and he will carry no credibility.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:10:48 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can see Baez LEAPING to object and then not knowing what to say when the judge asks him what is his objection.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 09, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can see Baez LEAPING to object and then not knowing what to say when the judge asks him what is his objection.   ::MonkeyTongue::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 09, 2009, 06:12:15 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Me too.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:13:09 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can see Baez LEAPING to object and then not knowing what to say when the judge asks him what is his objection.   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 09, 2009, 06:13:50 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Me too.    ::MonkeyCool::
ME THREE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:15:30 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?


I wish, I wish!!
No, I don't think he will spill the beans.  I think the jury though will see him for what he is and he will carry no credibility.



George will either tell the truth (unlikely) or else the SA will totally IMPEACH George on the stand.  All those recorded depos he's had with OCSO and FBI and whatever he said to the grand jury.....IF George does not tell the truth up front, he will be rendered to have no credibility whatsoever, before he leaves the stand.

And that's just for starters....then comes Cindy.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 09, 2009, 06:15:49 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Georgie will look down at his pants.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:16:41 PM
I think no charges will be brought against the Ant's until after Casey's trial......the State does not want them to justify their taking the 5th on the witness stand. They (prosecutors) IMO can't wait to destroy any/all credibility for the jury from the get-go. I personally can't wait for my new BFF Linda Drane Burdick to rip Cindy to shreds! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Me too.    ::MonkeyCool::
ME THREE

ME FOUR   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:18:08 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:20:01 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:20:35 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can see Baez LEAPING to object and then not knowing what to say when the judge asks him what is his objection.   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

He'd have to run over and confer with the Battlewagon.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 06:20:53 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Georgie will look down at his pants.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Poor Bozo probably has to practice saying "Zip It" after months of saying "UN-Zip it" to his client. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 09, 2009, 06:21:26 PM
Reading back over Pgs. 43-44 reminded me...Does anyone else think it's odd that Caylee named her doll Mama?  I've known lots of little toddler girls and on up and I've never heard one name a doll Mama.  Almost without exception, they name them after a TV show character, family member (like sisters, cousins, aunts), family friends, playmates, or book characters.  I wonder if Caylee named her after the mama in Suppertime For Freida Fuzzypaws?
My granddaughter is a few months younger than Caylee and she has like 10 dolls at my house.  She calls them all her babies but when playing with them all together she sometimes says one is the mommy and the smaller ones are her babieis.  I think that's a little different though as she has never called them all mommy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:21:35 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Georgie will look down at his pants.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:22:51 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Does anyone think that when George is on the stand in KC's trial, and he's being asked difficult questions and all emotional, that a few impeachment questions to any lies he's telling could just completely fluster George and him ending up spilling out the beans (beans equaling the truth) in his flustered state?



I would pay to see that! And Baez and the rest of them trying their best to shut him up before he goes too far. He'll be telling Georgie boy to zip it next! I'll bet the 2 of them have Baez & co going crazy at the thought of, him especially, losing it on the stand!

I wonder if Baez would jump up in court and tell Georgie to "Zip it!" like he did Spindy at her SA depo?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can see Baez LEAPING to object and then not knowing what to say when the judge asks him what is his objection.   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

He'd have to run over and confer with the Battlewagon.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 Undoubtedly she will have the briefcase with everyone's ba!!s in there, to be dispensed when she's not using them!       ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 09, 2009, 06:25:30 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Add a vendor selling Cindy's Chili outside the courthouse..... :smt073 :smt073 :smt073 :smt073


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:25:50 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Maybe by the time her trial comes about, he will be brave enough to have some dangley ones.
Dream catchers.....with feathers....and beads.....kinda like Dog the Bounty Hunter....... Someone please stop me......... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:27:18 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



 Priceless, what I'd really like to see and I sure hope the camera is focused right on it.... when kc's head spins around and the projectile vomit erupts. Graphic I know, but I don't have a scintilla of doubt that it happens on a regular basis.........................back to the real world now ( but still hoping0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:27:35 PM
I can see George literally spilling his beans when the pictures of the crime scene with the remains are show to the jury.

What you want to bet....the A's don't show up for court that day?!?!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:28:16 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



Maybe by the time her trial comes about, he will be brave enough to have some dangley ones.
Dream catchers.....with feathers....and beads.....kinda like Dog the Bounty Hunter....... Someone please stop me......... ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: stop it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:28:21 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



 Priceless, what I'd really like to see and I sure hope the camera is focused right on it.... when kc's head spins around and the projectile vomit erupts. Graphic I know, but I don't have a scintilla of doubt that it happens on a regular basis.........................back to the real world now ( but still hoping0
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:29:06 PM

 Wonder if the A's will resurrect their Caylee wardrobe and 45 pounds of trashy jewelry, tote bags, water bottles, booger hankies for trial?

Wonder if the stealthy baezsvengali will do another bang up job of smuggling in some Caylee bracelets for kc to fiddle with?
 ::Baseball::
 

Can't you just imagine KC coming into court and looking a Dad and seeing his earrings!

One can wish for a total explosion!!
 ::MonkeyDance::



 Priceless, what I'd really like to see and I sure hope the camera is focused right on it.... when kc's head spins around and the projectile vomit erupts. Graphic I know, but I don't have a scintilla of doubt that it happens on a regular basis.........................back to the real world now ( but still hoping0
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/511-doll-head-spin.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 09, 2009, 06:39:37 PM
I was a states witness in a homicide trial.  The state put me on as 1st witness so I could sit in for the whole trial. Other witnesses were not allowed in until they had testified.  If that is the case , either CA or GA will testify without the other in the room.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:42:11 PM
I was a states witness in a homicide trial.  The state put me on as 1st witness so I could sit in for the whole trial. Other witnesses were not allowed in until they had testified.  If that is the case , either CA or GA will testify without the other in the room.

I know...tee hee...AND "if" George goes first...he just might become very rattled.  Here's hoping.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:42:15 PM

  ...........I'm composed now.  Don't you know that the prosecution has to be looking forward to this, not only for justice and all, but to really get to not only watch the circus but be  part of the craziest fiasco they'll probably ever see in their careers. Barnum Brothers couldn't even compete with this.

I can see it now, Amazonia in a tutu, carefully inching across the tightwire.  LkBadabing doing acrobatics, and of course the time worn favorite, bobbing and weaving in his colorful clown suit.

Ok, mods.....I'll get back on topic, promise... unless somebody else eggs me on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:43:21 PM
Did we ever find out "what the ID was" that was taken from KC's wallet? 

I just wonder if KC had "different" ID's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on November 09, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 06:46:01 PM

  ...........I'm composed now.  Don't you know that the prosecution has to be looking forward to this, not only for justice and all, but to really get to not only watch the circus but be  part of the craziest fiasco they'll probably ever see in their careers. Barnum Brothers couldn't even compete with this.

I can see it now, Amazonia in a tutu, carefully inching across the tightwire.  LkBadabing doing acrobatics, and of course the time worn favorite, bobbing and weaving in his colorful clown suit.

Ok, mods.....I'll get back on topic, promise... unless somebody else eggs me on

I can see that the SA would have layer after layer of ways to come after the lying A's.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 06:58:07 PM

  ...........I'm composed now.  Don't you know that the prosecution has to be looking forward to this, not only for justice and all, but to really get to not only watch the circus but be  part of the craziest fiasco they'll probably ever see in their careers. Barnum Brothers couldn't even compete with this.

I can see it now, Amazonia in a tutu, carefully inching across the tightwire.  LkBadabing doing acrobatics, and of course the time worn favorite, bobbing and weaving in his colorful clown suit.

Ok, mods.....I'll get back on topic, promise... unless somebody else eggs me on
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/l_e03f756ed7ee47a28a4b0c8cc9f933-1.jpg) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bozo.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/33v14q9.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 06:59:16 PM

  ...........I'm composed now.  Don't you know that the prosecution has to be looking forward to this, not only for justice and all, but to really get to not only watch the circus but be  part of the craziest fiasco they'll probably ever see in their careers. Barnum Brothers couldn't even compete with this.

I can see it now, Amazonia in a tutu, carefully inching across the tightwire.  LkBadabing doing acrobatics, and of course the time worn favorite, bobbing and weaving in his colorful clown suit.

Ok, mods.....I'll get back on topic, promise... unless somebody else eggs me on

I can see that the SA would have layer after layer of ways to come after the lying A's.



Yep, their very own statements contradict and the pings, computer searches, pictures, forensics, police reports, neighbor testimony.... layers and layers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:01:19 PM

  ...........I'm composed now.  Don't you know that the prosecution has to be looking forward to this, not only for justice and all, but to really get to not only watch the circus but be  part of the craziest fiasco they'll probably ever see in their careers. Barnum Brothers couldn't even compete with this.

I can see it now, Amazonia in a tutu, carefully inching across the tightwire.  LkBadabing doing acrobatics, and of course the time worn favorite, bobbing and weaving in his colorful clown suit.

Ok, mods.....I'll get back on topic, promise... unless somebody else eggs me on

I can see that the SA would have layer after layer of ways to come after the lying A's.



Yep, their very own statements contradict and the pings, computer searches, pictures, forensics, police reports, neighbor testimony.... layers and layers

Not to mention D Casey, if he tells what he knows truthfully. What he might be privy to might blow them out of the water


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 09, 2009, 07:03:49 PM
I still want to know what Casey bought @ Sears.  I wonder if it was a replacement for the laundry bag that little Caylee was found in. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 09, 2009, 07:10:46 PM
MONKEY'S
I have a question?
does anyone think?
that casey actualy think's that she will walk. Dont you think she may have her doubts? or is she 100% confident that baez  will get her off?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:13:20 PM
I still want to know what Casey bought @ Sears.  I wonder if it was a replacement for the laundry bag that little Caylee was found in. 

???  I forgot about that. there's so many things that she did that I hope they have found out what she was really up to.
All the little details that they all have shrugged off and assumed that will be forgotten won't be. I think that's Baez's biggest downfall too, he acts like the small stuff is inconsequential, but in reality sometimes a very small detail can bring down the whole house of cards.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:18:34 PM

Now FANNY, I said for people to stop egging me on, notice I didn't even quote your very fine post with the pics? However, they were awesome. Who wouldn't want them defending your life?
                                ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 09, 2009, 07:19:49 PM
I am curious as to why Dominic Casey would pledge such loyalty to the anthony's. It would be in his best interest to sing like a canary and tell the truth. as far as I have seen
the anthonys have had no loyalty to anyone for long, not even their dead grandaughter. yupp it's going to be quite interesting to see what they get out of him and especialy mallory parker! she is quite loyal to the anthonys even if she is number 5 on the scale and definetely not a ten must be a disappointment to cindy.
I am sure cindy is grilling the hell outta her but I am counting on her nerves giving into the best of her and get confused as to what cindy told her to say or not say ya think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 09, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
IF it was me in mallorys shoes(thank gd I am not) But if it was me I would  be like:

I'm helen and I'm tellin!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 07:23:49 PM
MONKEY'S
I have a question?
does anyone think?
that casey actualy think's that she will walk. Dont you think she may have her doubts? or is she 100% confident that baez  will get her off?

I think KC believes with all her heart that Bozo is going to get her off. He keeps her isolated, and no one else but him and his cronies can really talk to her. I am sure he reassures her every time they meet she will be free, and loll on Miami Beach and life will be beautiful. I think they have little tiffs from time to time, but I do not think reality has really sunk in to her yet. I think she is tired of being in jail, but glad to be away from her mother and her big mouth.  She reads, listens to her music, and soothes herself with food. She writes, and boy! Would I like to see what she writes and draws. She is an evil swine, wallowing in her celebrity. Living the Vita Loca, but she doesn't realize it. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 07:25:05 PM

Now FANNY, I said for people to stop egging me on, notice I didn't even quote your very fine post with the pics? However, they were awesome. Who wouldn't want them defending your life?
                                ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 07:27:55 PM

Now FANNY, I said for people to stop egging me on, notice I didn't even quote your very fine post with the pics? However, they were awesome. Who wouldn't want them defending your life?
                                ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

GEORGE: (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/MrTSockMonkey.jpg)

SPINDY: (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Animation5-sm.gif)

WTF(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/WINKY.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:32:09 PM
IF it was me in mallorys shoes(thank gd I am not) But if it was me I would  be like:

I'm helen and I'm tellin!!
::MonkeyHaHa::
Since I'm in a blabby mood today and you asked earlier about whether kc thinks she could walk, I'll take a stab at it.
I think in the beginning Baez pretty much kept her in the dark, he wants this to go on as long as possible. During all that time, she probably still was in her dream world that she was the cutest, smartest girl around and that soon her hero would have her eating chili and cornbread again, since Lyons was brought in, surely she gets it that if she manges to squirm out of the death penalty, she's looking at life in prison. Not her own private "room" in the jail but the big, grey prison. The only thing is, she is a narcissistic sociopath who may not feel there's any way that she'll be convicted. How's that for a non-answer?  I don't know what to think about her. 
                                                                                                                                                                                 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:35:17 PM

Now FANNY, I said for people to stop egging me on, notice I didn't even quote your very fine post with the pics? However, they were awesome. Who wouldn't want them defending your life?
                                ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

GEORGE: (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/MrTSockMonkey.jpg)

SPINDY: (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Animation5-sm.gif)

WTF(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/WINKY.gif)

That PR advisor has certainly done wonders to improve their image. Pictures say a 1000 words, thanks for those.       ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 09, 2009, 07:41:29 PM
I'll stop MIZJAY. I am so steamed over the Ft Hood thread I am trying to keep my cool by playing around.
PAPA, ARE YOU TIRED, PAPA?


(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/CayleeandPapa.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 09, 2009, 07:55:33 PM
I'll stop MIZJAY. I am so steamed over the Ft Hood thread I am trying to keep my cool by playing around.
PAPA, ARE YOU TIRED, PAPA?


(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/CayleeandPapa.jpg)



I've been avoiding any news on that subject today but I guess I need to go catch up cause that how a lot of this has gotten out of hand (people avoiding the elephant in the room, muslim extremeists in our midst)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 07:58:02 PM
MONKEY'S
I have a question?
does anyone think?
that casey actualy think's that she will walk. Dont you think she may have her doubts? or is she 100% confident that baez  will get her off?

I think KC believes with all her heart that Bozo is going to get her off. He keeps her isolated, and no one else but him and his cronies can really talk to her. I am sure he reassures her every time they meet she will be free, and loll on Miami Beach and life will be beautiful. I think they have little tiffs from time to time, but I do not think reality has really sunk in to her yet. I think she is tired of being in jail, but glad to be away from her mother and her big mouth.  She reads, listens to her music, and soothes herself with food. She writes, and boy! Would I like to see what she writes and draws. She is an evil swine, wallowing in her celebrity. Living the Vita Loca, but she doesn't realize it. JMO

I don't think it's sunk in to KC yet, either.  Her personality...she's just telling herself she just has to get through the trial and all will be well.

However, there's another trial first...check fraud....and she will be found guilty and probably given a 5 year sentence.  At that time...it'll start sinking in that she's in jail for at least 5 years.

But for right now, IMO, KC is pizzed that "everything has been TAKEN from her"...she would never admit, even to herself, that she might be the reason everything is taken from her.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Would some nice monkey please give me the link to the Ft. Hood thread?  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 09, 2009, 08:04:22 PM
Would some nice monkey please give me the link to the Ft. Hood thread?  TIA

Never mind...I found it...Puzzler


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 09, 2009, 10:31:56 PM
Alllll by myyyy seelllf, don't wanna be, alllll by myyyyy seeelllf, anymore!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: FindingAnswers on November 09, 2009, 11:31:21 PM
I can't wait to find out if Caylee's DNA is forund on that syringe needle and Casey's fingerprints or dna on it. They now have touch DNA evidence that can be used in many cases.

I heard defense attorney's on Nancy Grace saying that just because there is that evidence of a syringe with chloroform near the remains doesn't prove Casey did the crime.

I say if they can prove Caylee's DNA is on that needle and Casey's is on the bag or syringe or her fingerprints. they have enough evidence to convict along with all the other evidence.

How is the defense going to keep out the evidence of the one attorney who sent the document to prosecutors stating that if Casey was responsible it was most certain it was an accidental overdose of certain drugs etc?
Casey deserves to suffer being trapped in jail with no freedom since that is why she IMO killed her daughter but after she suffers being isolated and loss of her freedom she should get the DP.

How her mother could not only defend her but lie for her then claim she is an advocate for missing and murdered children is beyond me.

How can Cindy claim such a thing when she won't advocate TRUE justice for her own grandchild. She is basically saying Caylee doesn't matter as long as she gets to save her daughter from being punished for the crime.

I wonder if she had to look in little Caylee's eyes and tell her that she doesn't care that her own mother killed her and in the next breath claim she loves her and wants justice for her. How Cindy could reconcile that in her mind and to little Caylee if she were ever given that opportunity



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 09, 2009, 11:35:22 PM
Likely already posted:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wesh-analyst-sees-chloroform-as-smoking-gun.html

Casey Anthony: WESH analyst sees chloroform as smoking gun; Orange County Jail dismisses tabloid report
posted by halboedeker on Nov 9, 2009 5:55:04 PM


WESH-Channel 2 today took another long look at evidence released Friday in the Casey Anthony case. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Chloroform evidence "could be the closest thing we've seen to a smoking gun so far,"  WESH anchor Martha Sugalski said in introducing a report.

Reporter Bob Kealing turned to Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby for analysis about the evidence. Hornsby focused on a syringe, with traces of chloroform, found near Caylee's remains and on coffin flies found in Anthony's car.

"I now understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty," Hornsby said. "You have the premeditation filled in. You have the cause of death filled in."

He described the chloroform as "the smoking gun, it's the nail in the coffin" and the duct tape found on Caylee's remains as the impetus for imposition of the death penalty.

Hornsby said the state has a solid case and the defense needs to change its strategy. His suggestion: Argue that Caylee's death was unintentional and put Casey on the stand.


**** The Orange County Corrections Department is dismissing a National Enquirer report that Anthony ranted over news that a play is being staged about the case. Oscar-winner director Steven Soderbergh has created "Tot Mom" from public documents and will stage the play in Sydney, Australia.

"I have thoroughly researched the latest allegation that inmate Anthony was 'screaming so loud' that she was 'threatened to be locked in an isolation unit.' This is just not true," jail spokesman Allen Moore said.

Moore noted that Anthony has been in a cell by herself and has no direct contact with other inmates.

"We stand by our statement that inmate Anthony has never created a disturbance or yelled out while inside the Orange County Jail," Moore said. "In fact, she has always been compliant and cooperative with correctional staff."

Moore blasted the National Enquirer for continuing "to demonstrate a reckless disregard for the truth and unethical journalistic practices when reporting on matters at the Orange County Jail."




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 06:33:22 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 06:36:26 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Caylee Anthony:Is There A Message Found In This Bottle?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 07:13:21 AM
Issues 11/9/09 Casey Anthony
http://www.youtube.com/v/Kh4tDwGS1c4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 07:19:00 AM
Prime News 11/9/09 Casey Anthony Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/v/wpyvbYdIF8g&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1

Prime News 11/9/09 Casey Anthony Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/v/WOBrkyhHr_0&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 10, 2009, 08:24:51 AM
O/T

Nicholas Francisco found alive in California

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2625.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 08:54:02 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Caylee Anthony:Is There A Message Found In This Bottle?


Hey Trimm - isn't malibu and the dom suppose to give depositions this Thursday?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 08:56:57 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

WHY
November 10, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Who, what, where, why and how

Since July of last year, we’ve received mountains of information addressing the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony and her mother, who is charged with the crime. Because the evidence points to one person, I think it’s safe to say that 99.7% of the people interested in this case believe, without a doubt, that Casey Marie Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

So far, we know who it was and we are sure we know who was responsible. We know what happened. Caylee was murdered. Do we know where the crime took place? If Casey is truly guilty, odds are it occurred inside the Anthony home. Could it have happened anywhere else? Conceivably, yes, and more about this aspect may come out prior to or during trial.

I don’t think we’ll ever know how Caylee died. Several theories are floating around. The latest one is death by injection of homemade chloroform, but there is no precise evidence to verify it. Lots of garbage was tossed into the woods where she was found. How will the state prove it was Casey’s needle? How will prosecutors explain the testosterone found on it? In court, “maybes” won’t count and the defense is well aware of that.
As we consider who, what, where and how, have we ever really sat down to ponder why Caylee was murdered in a, seemingly, cold-blooded fashion? If you think about it, none of the media outlets have given any thought to it. None. In April, I wrote an article titled, When a mother kills. In it, I took an in-depth look at filicide, which is the deliberate act of a parent killing their own son or daughter. In real life, Motown singer/songwriter Marvin Gaye was shot to death by his father in 1984. In mythology, Hercules killed his wife and children in a fit of rage induced by the goddess Hera. The list is long and society looks the other way, never considering possible causes.

What I’d like to know is why Caylee was killed. As much as we seem to know about this horrible murder, what are some of the possible motives? If, in fact, her mother committed the crime, why did she do it? Was it jealousy? To be able to party again? Was it because deep down inside, Casey never wanted to have a child? Certainly, to wander aimlessly for a month without fully comprehending the magnitude of her daughter’s death, was something terribly askew in her mind? What sane person would think like that? Could there be underlying factors at work? Are you aware of postpartum depression? The symptoms may hide themselves as manic-depression or bipolar disorder. Bouts of euphoria, agitation, sleeplessness, sexual promiscuity, and hyperactivity are not unusual. Very easily, poor judgment could be a result. This is, in no manner, meant to soften the blow, and Casey is not claiming she suffered from any form of mental disorder, but if she killed Caylee, why did she do it? Why haven’t the media taken an in-depth look into the mind of this filicidal mother, to discern and recognize some of the possible reasons? So far, all we’ve really discussed are the whos, whats, wheres and hows. Do we have any whys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 10, 2009, 09:02:02 AM
Morning Trimm! thanks for the article...
Morning all....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 10, 2009, 09:18:40 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

WHY
November 10, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Who, what, where, why and how

Since July of last year, we’ve received mountains of information addressing the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony and her mother, who is charged with the crime. Because the evidence points to one person, I think it’s safe to say that 99.7% of the people interested in this case believe, without a doubt, that Casey Marie Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

So far, we know who it was and we are sure we know who was responsible. We know what happened. Caylee was murdered. Do we know where the crime took place? If Casey is truly guilty, odds are it occurred inside the Anthony home. Could it have happened anywhere else? Conceivably, yes, and more about this aspect may come out prior to or during trial.

I don’t think we’ll ever know how Caylee died. Several theories are floating around. The latest one is death by injection of homemade chloroform, but there is no precise evidence to verify it. Lots of garbage was tossed into the woods where she was found. How will the state prove it was Casey’s needle? How will prosecutors explain the testosterone found on it? In court, “maybes” won’t count and the defense is well aware of that.
As we consider who, what, where and how, have we ever really sat down to ponder why Caylee was murdered in a, seemingly, cold-blooded fashion? If you think about it, none of the media outlets have given any thought to it. None. In April, I wrote an article titled, When a mother kills. In it, I took an in-depth look at filicide, which is the deliberate act of a parent killing their own son or daughter. In real life, Motown singer/songwriter Marvin Gaye was shot to death by his father in 1984. In mythology, Hercules killed his wife and children in a fit of rage induced by the goddess Hera. The list is long and society looks the other way, never considering possible causes.

What I’d like to know is why Caylee was killed. As much as we seem to know about this horrible murder, what are some of the possible motives? If, in fact, her mother committed the crime, why did she do it? Was it jealousy? To be able to party again? Was it because deep down inside, Casey never wanted to have a child? Certainly, to wander aimlessly for a month without fully comprehending the magnitude of her daughter’s death, was something terribly askew in her mind? What sane person would think like that? Could there be underlying factors at work? Are you aware of postpartum depression? The symptoms may hide themselves as manic-depression or bipolar disorder. Bouts of euphoria, agitation, sleeplessness, sexual promiscuity, and hyperactivity are not unusual. Very easily, poor judgment could be a result. This is, in no manner, meant to soften the blow, and Casey is not claiming she suffered from any form of mental disorder, but if she killed Caylee, why did she do it? Why haven’t the media taken an in-depth look into the mind of this filicidal mother, to discern and recognize some of the possible reasons? So far, all we’ve really discussed are the whos, whats, wheres and hows. Do we have any whys?

Casey underwent a Psychological exam and was not found to be suffering any disorder.
There is such a thing as evil, and not every 'abnormal' behavior merits a Psychiatric label. Some people are just cruel, unkind and amoral.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 09:52:36 AM
Morning Trimm! thanks for the article...
Morning all....


Hey Cookie!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 10:03:12 AM
Good Morning Monks. trim thanks for all the updates.  I do hope the syringe is the smoking gun!

Stange we haven't heard a word from anyone one the defense side.....not even BC, since the tattoo remarks...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 10:05:54 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

WHY
November 10, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Who, what, where, why and how

Since July of last year, we’ve received mountains of information addressing the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony and her mother, who is charged with the crime. Because the evidence points to one person, I think it’s safe to say that 99.7% of the people interested in this case believe, without a doubt, that Casey Marie Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

So far, we know who it was and we are sure we know who was responsible. We know what happened. Caylee was murdered. Do we know where the crime took place? If Casey is truly guilty, odds are it occurred inside the Anthony home. Could it have happened anywhere else? Conceivably, yes, and more about this aspect may come out prior to or during trial.

I don’t think we’ll ever know how Caylee died. Several theories are floating around. The latest one is death by injection of homemade chloroform, but there is no precise evidence to verify it. Lots of garbage was tossed into the woods where she was found. How will the state prove it was Casey’s needle? How will prosecutors explain the testosterone found on it? In court, “maybes” won’t count and the defense is well aware of that.
As we consider who, what, where and how, have we ever really sat down to ponder why Caylee was murdered in a, seemingly, cold-blooded fashion? If you think about it, none of the media outlets have given any thought to it. None. In April, I wrote an article titled, When a mother kills. In it, I took an in-depth look at filicide, which is the deliberate act of a parent killing their own son or daughter. In real life, Motown singer/songwriter Marvin Gaye was shot to death by his father in 1984. In mythology, Hercules killed his wife and children in a fit of rage induced by the goddess Hera. The list is long and society looks the other way, never considering possible causes.

What I’d like to know is why Caylee was killed.


Because she is a "spiteful bitch"  I don't know, but why does it matter?  I think there is a long list of reasons why..........she was never ever once held accountable for her actions growing up - she was made to feel as she was insurmountable therefore she actually thought she could get away with murder and not to mention I believe she hates Cindy and in a fit of rage killed Caylee.  Either way, in my opinion the whys don't matter - the only thing that matters now is Justice  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

WHY
November 10, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Who, what, where, why and how

Since July of last year, we’ve received mountains of information addressing the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony and her mother, who is charged with the crime. Because the evidence points to one person, I think it’s safe to say that 99.7% of the people interested in this case believe, without a doubt, that Casey Marie Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

So far, we know who it was and we are sure we know who was responsible. We know what happened. Caylee was murdered. Do we know where the crime took place? If Casey is truly guilty, odds are it occurred inside the Anthony home. Could it have happened anywhere else? Conceivably, yes, and more about this aspect may come out prior to or during trial.

I don’t think we’ll ever know how Caylee died. Several theories are floating around. The latest one is death by injection of homemade chloroform, but there is no precise evidence to verify it. Lots of garbage was tossed into the woods where she was found. How will the state prove it was Casey’s needle? How will prosecutors explain the testosterone found on it? In court, “maybes” won’t count and the defense is well aware of that.
As we consider who, what, where and how, have we ever really sat down to ponder why Caylee was murdered in a, seemingly, cold-blooded fashion? If you think about it, none of the media outlets have given any thought to it. None. In April, I wrote an article titled, When a mother kills. In it, I took an in-depth look at filicide, which is the deliberate act of a parent killing their own son or daughter. In real life, Motown singer/songwriter Marvin Gaye was shot to death by his father in 1984. In mythology, Hercules killed his wife and children in a fit of rage induced by the goddess Hera. The list is long and society looks the other way, never considering possible causes.

What I’d like to know is why Caylee was killed.


Because she is a "spiteful bitch"  I don't know, but why does it matter?  I think there is a long list of reasons why..........she was never ever once held accountable for her actions growing up - she was made to feel as she was insurmountable therefore she actually thought she could get away with murder and not to mention I believe she hates Cindy and in a fit of rage killed Caylee.  Either way, in my opinion the whys don't matter - the only thing that matters now is Justice  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And I sure messed that post up - time for more coffee ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
Good Morning Monks. trim thanks for all the updates.  I do hope the syringe is the smoking gun!

Stange we haven't heard a word from anyone one the defense side.....not even BC, since the tattoo remarks...

The silence is telling.........   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
Mission,I hear ya.She is a spoiled brat.
Label it any way you want.She killed Caylee,and I can't think of a punishment severe enough for her.They can lock the whole family up as far as I am concerned....forever.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 10:31:41 AM
Good Morning Monks. trim thanks for all the updates.  I do hope the syringe is the smoking gun!

Stange we haven't heard a word from anyone one the defense side.....not even BC, since the tattoo remarks...

The silence is telling.........   ::MonkeyCool::
I really thought by now someone would have said something, I'm curious to why not?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Video about Mommy's Little Girl


http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m1QIODSUES8OL5


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 10:43:50 AM
Mission,I hear ya.She is a spoiled brat.
Label it any way you want.She killed Caylee,and I can't think of a punishment severe enough for her.They can lock the whole family up as far as I am concerned....forever.


I would have thought that the whole bunch of them would have hit all the media they could shouting from the roof tops that the Disney bag and it's contents have nothing to do with Caylee's death. Maybe they already have what we don't. The fingerprint reports.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 10:46:31 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

WHY
November 10, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Who, what, where, why and how

Since July of last year, we’ve received mountains of information addressing the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony and her mother, who is charged with the crime. Because the evidence points to one person, I think it’s safe to say that 99.7% of the people interested in this case believe, without a doubt, that Casey Marie Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

So far, we know who it was and we are sure we know who was responsible. We know what happened. Caylee was murdered. Do we know where the crime took place? If Casey is truly guilty, odds are it occurred inside the Anthony home. Could it have happened anywhere else? Conceivably, yes, and more about this aspect may come out prior to or during trial.

I don’t think we’ll ever know how Caylee died. Several theories are floating around. The latest one is death by injection of homemade chloroform, but there is no precise evidence to verify it. Lots of garbage was tossed into the woods where she was found. How will the state prove it was Casey’s needle? How will prosecutors explain the testosterone found on it? In court, “maybes” won’t count and the defense is well aware of that.
As we consider who, what, where and how, have we ever really sat down to ponder why Caylee was murdered in a, seemingly, cold-blooded fashion? If you think about it, none of the media outlets have given any thought to it. None. In April, I wrote an article titled, When a mother kills. In it, I took an in-depth look at filicide, which is the deliberate act of a parent killing their own son or daughter. In real life, Motown singer/songwriter Marvin Gaye was shot to death by his father in 1984. In mythology, Hercules killed his wife and children in a fit of rage induced by the goddess Hera. The list is long and society looks the other way, never considering possible causes.

What I’d like to know is why Caylee was killed. As much as we seem to know about this horrible murder, what are some of the possible motives? If, in fact, her mother committed the crime, why did she do it? Was it jealousy? To be able to party again? Was it because deep down inside, Casey never wanted to have a child? Certainly, to wander aimlessly for a month without fully comprehending the magnitude of her daughter’s death, was something terribly askew in her mind? What sane person would think like that? Could there be underlying factors at work? Are you aware of postpartum depression? The symptoms may hide themselves as manic-depression or bipolar disorder. Bouts of euphoria, agitation, sleeplessness, sexual promiscuity, and hyperactivity are not unusual. Very easily, poor judgment could be a result. This is, in no manner, meant to soften the blow, and Casey is not claiming she suffered from any form of mental disorder, but if she killed Caylee, why did she do it? Why haven’t the media taken an in-depth look into the mind of this filicidal mother, to discern and recognize some of the possible reasons? So far, all we’ve really discussed are the whos, whats, wheres and hows. Do we have any whys?

From reading Marinade Dave's articles, I don't think he is really asking the question because he doesn't know. He is just trying to generate more comments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 10:47:36 AM
I guess I should have added JMO to my last post. Sorry.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 10:47:40 AM
Mission,I hear ya.She is a spoiled brat.
Label it any way you want.She killed Caylee,and I can't think of a punishment severe enough for her.They can lock the whole family up as far as I am concerned....forever.


I would have thought that the whole bunch of them would have hit all the media they could shouting from the roof tops that the Disney bag and it's contents have nothing to do with Caylee's death. Maybe they already have what we don't. The fingerprint reports.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 10:48:16 AM
I guess I should have added JMO to my last post. Sorry.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 10, 2009, 10:56:07 AM
Mission,I hear ya.She is a spoiled brat.
Label it any way you want.She killed Caylee,and I can't think of a punishment severe enough for her.They can lock the whole family up as far as I am concerned....forever.


I would have thought that the whole bunch of them would have hit all the media they could shouting from the roof tops that the Disney bag and it's contents have nothing to do with Caylee's death. Maybe they already have what we don't. The fingerprint reports.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyDevil2::

one can only hope that they do have fingerprint reports!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 11:00:33 AM
Good Morning Monks. trim thanks for all the updates.  I do hope the syringe is the smoking gun!

Stange we haven't heard a word from anyone one the defense side.....not even BC, since the tattoo remarks...

Yes very strange. Especially with the testosterone finding, that's the perfect note for them to immediately start the Jesse or whichever guy they want, did it mantra. Either they haven't decided who to start incriminating or maybe there are fingerprints.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 11:11:40 AM

Kc is not a brilliant criminal. She was /is a lazy, self centered witch, I think at some point there has to be damning fingerprints on something. She's going to fry unless AL can start some "poor mistreated kc" song and dance. But with that route they'll need to cop to crime pretty much with the slant that all the years of mama's browbeating drove her to it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 11:19:40 AM

Kc is not a brilliant criminal. She was /is a lazy, self centered witch, I think at some point there has to be damning fingerprints on something. She's going to fry unless AL can start some "poor mistreated kc" song and dance. But with that route they'll need to cop to crime pretty much with the slant that all the years of mama's browbeating drove her to it.

In any other situation, even the check fraud case, I could almost have sympathy for KC and the he77 Spindy must have made her life. But the vile murder of Caylee erased any thoughts of compassion I might muster up for her. She was 22, for God's sake. KC could have gotten herself and even Caylee out of there, but she chose another route. She did that because as it turns out she was as evil as Spindy and Georgie. I think those two could be as murderous as their daughter, if the right circumstance came up. They just haven't been backed far enough in the corner. Of course, JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 10, 2009, 11:27:52 AM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   

That is a good point & over the open waters they figured they could talk freely without being overheard.  Never thought of that.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 10, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   

That is a good point & over the open waters they figured they could talk freely without being overheard.  Never thought of that.   ::MonkeyCool::

yes, that makes perfect sense...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 10, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
two questions, if there are fingerprints on there do they have to release that now? it seems like they would need to keep some things private to bring up at trial or they are telling everything before trial. also as far as the testosterone, i wonder if cindy brought that home for Georgie....she would be able to get access to all kinds of things. hope they found some in the medicine chest at their house, i know they took alot of pills and other items from the home


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 11:51:58 AM

Kc is not a brilliant criminal. She was /is a lazy, self centered witch, I think at some point there has to be damning fingerprints on something. She's going to fry unless AL can start some "poor mistreated kc" song and dance. But with that route they'll need to cop to crime pretty much with the slant that all the years of mama's browbeating drove her to it.

In any other situation, even the check fraud case, I could almost have sympathy for KC and the he77 Spindy must have made her life. But the vile murder of Caylee erased any thoughts of compassion I might muster up for her. She was 22, for God's sake. KC could have gotten herself and even Caylee out of there, but she chose another route. She did that because as it turns out she was as evil as Spindy and Georgie. I think those two could be as murderous as their daughter, if the right circumstance came up. They just haven't been backed far enough in the corner. Of course, JMO.

I so agree with you on all points.
IMO, because kc was allowed to grow up virtually with no responsibility or accountability, every mess that any of them got into was swept under the rug, or went down in their family lore as they were wronged, an Anthony is never at fault. Kc felt entitled and special, Caylee probably in the beginning was a plus for her ego, but when that sweet baby got old enough to start needing her own life, her mother just wasn't willing to sacrifice one pinch of her freedom. In the Anthony world, if you're not for them you're against them, Caylee in her innocence, was one against kc. She was the albatross around kc's neck and what's more, CA was beginning to shift her focus from kc being the special one to Caylee being the special one.  Not to mention, the rest of the sane world was starting to notice, TL told her it wasn't right to have her daughter sleep over and be at the events, each day that passed meant Caylee was getting older, she wasn't going to be able to haul a sleeping infant around, Caylee was becoming a walking, talking liability.

In kc's mind, Caylee needed to be gone. There's enough abductions lately that kc prolly figured, what's one more? Everybody will feel sorry for her, she gets to be the center of attention again and all that. Her behavior after the "missing for 31 days" showed that in her mind, Caylee was gone, let's get over it and move on to new stuff.

Hey kc, it doesn't work like that in the real world.    ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 11:58:30 AM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   

That is a good point & over the open waters they figured they could talk freely without being overheard.  Never thought of that.   ::MonkeyCool::

BUT!! I am wondering if a couple of FBI agents didn't enjoy their cruise too? ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 10, 2009, 12:19:41 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
uuummmmm the last round of documents released seems to have put a fire in the heart of Bill Schaefer

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer shares his analysis of the Casey Anthony case for WFTV Channel 9 in Orlando.
BREAKING MY FIRST BLOG

For everyone that is concerned about and follows the case against Casey Anthony, it was suggested by the WFTV brass that I start a blog to expand on the analysis I do for Eyewitness News.  Be forewarned:  I am old school and therefore still in a learning mode about this sort of communication. Any comments, criticism or suggestions won’t hurt my feelings….let me have it.   I aim to learn.

So, lets talk about our case.  Fortunately for Casey Anthony, the tragic events at the Gateway Center in Downtown Orlando on November 6, 2009, overshadowed, temporarily,  the most recent release of Casey case evidence.  And, shocking and important evidence it is. Let’s look at some of it.

It may be helpful to know that there are certain types of evidence upon which the Prosecution relies for proof of guilt beyond and to the exclusion of any reasonable doubt, the ultimate burden of proof in all criminal cases.

Fundamentally then, direct evidence, or eyewitness testimony, that Casey committed the crime for which she is charged, is one type of evidence.  A second type of evidence is circumstantial evidence, which is a well-connected series of circumstances,  which, taken in their totality, would establish Casey’s guilt beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt.

At first blush, many of us might believe that it is direct evidence, or, eyewitness testimony, that is the strongest evidence in the prosecutor’s arsenal. But in reality, it is a well-connected chain of circumstantial evidence which most often, and, particularly in the Casey Anthony case, is the strongest and most likely to convince a jury of her guilt.

A talented criminal defense lawyer can always attack eyewitness testimony in a number of different ways:  the witness’s ability to have observed the event and accurately testify to it (how good was his view of the event and his memory of same? Does the witness have a bias, interest or motive for his testimony?)  But a well established series of strong circumstantial evidence precludes even the most seasoned criminal trial lawyer from either attacking, refuting or discrediting that evidence, especially given the substantial amount of circumstantial evidence.

Certainly, as of this date, there is strong circumstantial evidence in the case against Casey Anthony, which has been further strengthened by the latest release of interesting forensic evidence. Take, for example, the syringe containing traces of chloroform and the entomological studies revealing the “coffin flies.”  This,  together with what we already know, i.e. the testimony of George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony/defendant, and grandfather of Caylee Anthony/victim, has a significant connection.

Remember, Mr. Anthony testified that on the very last occasion he saw his granddaughter, Caylee, she was dressed in a particularly-described set of clothing, which clothing was  on and about the child’s remains when discovered.  Simply put, the clothing worn by the little girl, who was last seen by her grandfather in the company of her mother, Casey, was the very same clothing found on the child’s decomposed body.  This is important, in that, coupled with the aforementioned newly-released evidence, it refutes any possible defense allegation that Caylee was killed by a third person and dumped in the woods AFTER the arrest and jailing of her mother, Casey Anthony.

We should all be mindful that in a case of this nature, as evidence is released, there is an ebb and flow of opinion regarding the State of Florida’s ability to prove the case, beyond a reasonable doubt.  This will no doubt continue until a jury returns its verdict.  But, regardless of the tactics of Casey’s defense team,  the case against Casey Anthony is, at this point, a strong, compelling, circumstantial evidence case.

This case will be presented to the jury  by the Peoples’ lawyers, talented career prosecutors, Linda Drane Burdick, Jeff Ashton and Frank George. These three lawyers are the voice of little girl Caylee Anthony.  The jury will hear her through them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:20:39 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



LOL...we posted at nearly the same time...I got an email alert on this...I too will be following this blog!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:22:04 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



the syringe could be gotten at any pharmacy...my son used to give his Rottie shots and just went to the pharmacy for them...no questions asked...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:25:08 PM
uuummmmm the last round of documents released seems to have put a fire in the heart of Bill Schaefer

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer shares his analysis of the Casey Anthony case for WFTV Channel 9 in Orlando.
BREAKING MY FIRST BLOG
 These three lawyers are the voice of little girl Caylee Anthony.  The jury will hear her through them.


Sorry to quote my own post...but these last 2 sentences are heartwarming and sad at the same time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 12:26:28 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   

That is a good point & over the open waters they figured they could talk freely without being overheard.  Never thought of that.   ::MonkeyCool::

BUT!! I am wondering if a couple of FBI agents didn't enjoy their cruise too? ::MonkeyDevil2::

I bet they are never really alone.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 12:28:42 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Thanks! I'll check it out.     ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 12:31:30 PM
uuummmmm the last round of documents released seems to have put a fire in the heart of Bill Schaefer

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer shares his analysis of the Casey Anthony case for WFTV Channel 9 in Orlando.
BREAKING MY FIRST BLOG
 These three lawyers are the voice of little girl Caylee Anthony.  The jury will hear her through them.


Sorry to quote my own post...but these last 2 sentences are heartwarming and sad at the same time

Yes they are. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 10, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



LOL...we posted at nearly the same time...I got an email alert on this...I too will be following this blog!!




 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: Great minds.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 10, 2009, 12:41:07 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



the syringe could be gotten at any pharmacy...my son used to give his Rottie shots and just went to the pharmacy for them...no questions asked...


 ::MonkeyEek::

I understand that you can buy syringes with out perscription in bulk or singly, but what are the chances that the receipt is still readable and it shows purchase of the Gatorade, syringe and other chemicals and the date they were purchased?  I know most pharmacies have video as they have a high rate of shoplifting (although it may have been taped over by the time they found it) but whomever bought something at the pharmacy could have used debit card and I think that can be tracked.  Does this make sense or am I just having hopeful thinking...imo...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
uuummmmm the last round of documents released seems to have put a fire in the heart of Bill Schaefer

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer shares his analysis of the Casey Anthony case for WFTV Channel 9 in Orlando.
BREAKING MY FIRST BLOG
 These three lawyers are the voice of little girl Caylee Anthony.  The jury will hear her through them.


Sorry to quote my own post...but these last 2 sentences are heartwarming and sad at the same time

Yes they are. 

It is so sad to think that perhaps none of Caylee's family will be sitting on the side of justice for her...only strangers caring...I hope some of sin-sin's brothers come and sit on the side of Justice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



the syringe could be gotten at any pharmacy...my son used to give his Rottie shots and just went to the pharmacy for them...no questions asked...


 ::MonkeyEek::

I understand that you can buy syringes with out perscription in bulk or singly, but what are the chances that the receipt is still readable and it shows purchase of the Gatorade, syringe and other chemicals and the date they were purchased?  I know most pharmacies have video as they have a high rate of shoplifting (although it may have been taped over by the time they found it) but whomever bought something at the pharmacy could have used debit card and I think that can be tracked.  Does this make sense or am I just having hopeful thinking...imo...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Sorry I misunderstood your first question. If it's wishful thinking on your part, I'll wish with you....however, I won't hold out much hope...so much time has passed and I think kc is evil enough that she would have not kept a receipt for a syringe. Besides I do think the syringe was stolen by her from someone else. kc didn't but if she could steal ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 10, 2009, 12:50:13 PM
Prosecutors will also depose Mallory Parker on Nov. 12. Parker was Casey Anthony’s brother’s girlfriend at the time Caylee was reported missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20931980/detail.html


I hope Mallory remembers Lee’s statement from his depo with the state that she(Mallory)is #5 on his most important person/priority list…….in other words, close to the under-carriage of the bus

I get it now that's why those 4 went on the cruise to get thier stories straight before her testimony!   

That is a good point & over the open waters they figured they could talk freely without being overheard.  Never thought of that.   ::MonkeyCool::

BUT!! I am wondering if a couple of FBI agents didn't enjoy their cruise too? ::MonkeyDevil2::

LOL - wondered that myself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 10, 2009, 12:53:25 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Hello monkeys...I just found this blog (which I have to admit it is one I will be following)

My favorite Bill Sheaffer....

NEW!!

Bill Sheaffer Bogs
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Oh, and by the way, I asked a question earlier on when everyone was talking about the Gatorade bottle and where she "could" have gotten the syringe...Wasn't there a pharmacy receipt also found with the remains, is it possible it is the receipt for the purchase of the Gatorade and syringe (I remember LA saying that some receipts were missing and he didn't understand why she kept all of these other receipts but that there seem to be a few missing!...)just wondering...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::




Thank you!!  So enjoy his expertise & elegance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: terryd270 on November 10, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
I would think that there is too many ways of getting syringes, even ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Syringe-3CC-L-L-100-bx-Syringe-MV3CCLL_W0QQitemZ170399790227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ac9e7493 and if anyone knows someone that takes shots for diabetes then you can just grab one.. I hope they have finger prints and DNA but if there is a sells receipt all the better.. I just have to have more faith in people but it seems there are a lot of people that are brain dead, after following this case and others that are simular.. I wish I could go back in believing that there wasn't so much evil in this world but so far I haven't been able to go back to the magical world where make believe where there is friendly dancing pixies.. I just have to shake my head and say yikes!  how did all this evil come into this world and now attacking our children..  Well back to work and hopefully Casey never sleeps another night without knowing that someone more evil than her is waiting for her to join him..

td


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 10, 2009, 01:09:12 PM
Copied from bill's blog

Simply put, the clothing worn by the little girl, who was last seen by her grandfather in the company of her mother, Casey, was the very same clothing found on the child’s decomposed body.

is this true? I thought George described DIFFERENT clothes, a blue jean skirt maybe? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 10, 2009, 01:12:00 PM
Copied from bill's blog

Simply put, the clothing worn by the little girl, who was last seen by her grandfather in the company of her mother, Casey, was the very same clothing found on the child’s decomposed body.

is this true? I thought George described DIFFERENT clothes, a blue jean skirt maybe? 

I caught that too.  I agree with you. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 10, 2009, 01:20:22 PM
Copied from bill's blog

Simply put, the clothing worn by the little girl, who was last seen by her grandfather in the company of her mother, Casey, was the very same clothing found on the child’s decomposed body.

is this true? I thought George described DIFFERENT clothes, a blue jean skirt maybe? 

So did I ...  ?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 10, 2009, 01:23:41 PM
We are here for Caylee.  I hope the SA has a smoking gun, even if I don't know what that is yet.  I have to agree with an earlier poster, who said KC is prolly doing ok where she is at right now, no job, no family, lots of press...ect.   Susan Smith has been able to survive prison, BIG BERTHA has not taken her out. She even managed to get a std while behind bars.
KC needs something to be taken away from her that matters, but what would "that" be?  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 10, 2009, 01:41:15 PM
Good Morning Monks. trim thanks for all the updates.  I do hope the syringe is the smoking gun!

Stange we haven't heard a word from anyone one the defense side.....not even BC, since the tattoo remarks...

The silence is telling.........   ::MonkeyCool::
I really thought by now someone would have said something, I'm curious to why not?

Mayabe Lyons is squashing any comments. She seems to be about doing what's best for her client (I think) while Baez is about getting publicity for the first hispanic lawyer...yada, yada...
Also, Maybe they realize the prosecution is willing to play hardball now, to counter any attempts to taint a prospective jury, such as releasing the recent depos to counter 48 Hrs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 02:24:10 PM
Anthonys Familys' P.I. Deposition Postponed
Posted: 12:18 pm EST November 10, 2009
Updated: 12:40 pm EST November 10, 2009

The Anthony family's private investigator will have to answer questions under oath in the case against Casey Anthony, but he'll get more time to prepare.

Private Investigator Dominic Casey was set to be deposed on Thursday, but it's been pushed back until December 16. Dominic Casey filed a motion on October 21, to stop his November deposition.

MOTION: P.I.'s Privilege Log
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 02:25:55 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 02:28:53 PM
Anthonys Familys' P.I. Deposition Postponed
Posted: 12:18 pm EST November 10, 2009
Updated: 12:40 pm EST November 10, 2009

The Anthony family's private investigator will have to answer questions under oath in the case against Casey Anthony, but he'll get more time to prepare.

Private Investigator Dominic Casey was set to be deposed on Thursday, but it's been pushed back until December 16. Dominic Casey filed a motion on October 21, to stop his November deposition.

MOTION: P.I.'s Privilege Log
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html



BWAHAHHAAHAHAHA  Under the PI prilege log, item 3. the dom is referred to as Ms. Casey.  Guess mushroom head has his balls as well.      ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 02:36:36 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ur welcome, Trimm

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/dogbag-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ur welcome, Trimm

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/dogbag-1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 10, 2009, 02:44:59 PM
I was reading about the clothes that Caylee was supposed to be wearing June 16th, I was wondering how many of you believe that Georgie ever saw her that morning. I think he didn't, I also think Cindy instructed him on what to say happened that day and he is sticking to it. I know I wouldn't remember what my grandchild was wearing one month after I last saw her....unless I expected never to see her again.
Casey was at home until 4pm according to cell pings and computer use, nothing in this case, other than evidence gleaned from sources other than the family, has any credibility whatsoever.

Afternoon Monkeys  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Monken on November 10, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ur welcome, Trimm

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/dogbag-1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Me Too, Trimm!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::    ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 02:52:28 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ur welcome, Trimm

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/dogbag-1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Me Too, Trimm!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::    ::MonkeyLaugh::

Hey Dolce!!!  I believe that is a Birkenstock sandle behind the designer dog.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
Hey Monken.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Monken on November 10, 2009, 03:00:22 PM
Hey Monken.   ::MonkeyDance::

Hey Trimm!!! I had to get in here & catch up after seeing the testosterone stuff!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 03:03:49 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-private-eye-to-be-deposed-next-month.html
Casey Anthony: Private eye to be deposed next month
posted by halboedeker on Nov 10, 2009 12:35:21 PM
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Private investigator Dominic Casey will be deposed by prosecutors Dec. 16 instead of Thursday, WFTV-Channel 9 reported at noon today.

He works for the family of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

"Dominic has been trying to get out of the deposition, he says, because he went to work for Casey's defense team, he shouldn't have to answer any questions," anchor Barbara West said. "He was videotaped in the woods near the Anthony family home in November [last year], a month before Caylee's remains were found there."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 03:05:18 PM
Hey Monken.   ::MonkeyDance::

Hey Trimm!!! I had to get in here & catch up after seeing the testosterone stuff!

Enemies of testosterone:

* Mushroom head
* Nancy Pelosi
* Malibu/Mallory
* Martha Stewart
* Andrea Lyons
* Janet Reno

...to name a few


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Monken on November 10, 2009, 03:09:16 PM
Hey Monken.   ::MonkeyDance::

Hey Trimm!!! I had to get in here & catch up after seeing the testosterone stuff!

Enemies of testosterone:

* Mushroom head
* Nancy Pelosi
* Malibu/Mallory
* Martha Stewart
* Andrea Lyons
* Janet Reno

...to name a few

They all have too much!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
Too bad one of the Anthony's pets can't speak, that may be the only way to get at any of the truth. So Dom gets an extra month to prepare, how will he get out of that come Dec?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NM on November 10, 2009, 03:40:09 PM

FBI lab technicians detected traces of chloroform inside a sports drink and plastic syringe recovered near the scene where the remains of Caylee Marie were found in 2008.
Those details and others are included in the more than 2,100 pages of documents released today by the State Attorney's Office in the criminal case against Casey Anthony -- the 23-year-old accused of killing her daughter last year.

The report from the FBI's lab shows the Cool Blue-flavored Gatorade drink contained an "unknown liquid." The bottle also contained a plastic bag labeled "Disposable Syringe Kit" with a plastic syringe inside of the bag.

A report labeled "Summary of results" by Dr. Michael Rickenbach of the FBI indicates chemical tests show the syringe contained chloroform, ethanol and water.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20091106,0,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
Too bad one of the Anthony's pets can't speak, that may be the only way to get at any of the truth. So Dom gets an extra month to prepare, how will he get out of that come Dec?

By claiming that he needs to honor the start of the Boston Tea Party - 12/16/1773


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 03:44:33 PM
Too bad one of the Anthony's pets can't speak, that may be the only way to get at any of the truth. So Dom gets an extra month to prepare, how will he get out of that come Dec?

By claiming that he needs to honor the start of the Boston Tea Party - 12/16/1773
And that just might work  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NM on November 10, 2009, 03:45:59 PM
(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6307.0;attach=10782)

sorry about the 1st try


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 10, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6307.0;attach=10782)

sorry about the 1st try

Good job, NM.     ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ur welcome, Trimm

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/dogbag-1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 03:55:19 PM
Thank you guys!. That is what I wanted. That is not an insulin syringe. They have colored needle covers that correlate with the type of insulin you use.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 03:57:23 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 04:08:10 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 04:42:15 PM
Thank you guys!. That is what I wanted. That is not an insulin syringe. They have colored needle covers that correlate with the type of insulin you use.

I thought the color on the caps were different for the size needle it is? I don't think it's an insulin syringe either. Looks more like one used to get to a muscle. I know those are pretty long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

Eww! I know!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
Thank you guys!. That is what I wanted. That is not an insulin syringe. They have colored needle covers that correlate with the type of insulin you use.

I thought the color on the caps were different for the size needle it is? I don't think it's an insulin syringe either. Looks more like one used to get to a muscle. I know those are pretty long.

No Gizzie the color is about the type of insulin. I will have to find my book to explain it. But my Humilin insulin has an orange cap and the syringes have the orange needle cover.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

I think we have pretty much decided Malibu doesn't have any brain cells.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
This is a pic of the standard insulin syringe, It is not like the one found at the scene.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
OMG...didn't mean to blow the page up Sorry. Mods can you help me???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

I think we have pretty much decided Malibu doesn't have any brain cells.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

No active brain cells is the prerequisite for being in or around the Anthony family. She has been elevated to top brainless member by wanting to be there as opposed to being born into the distorted gene pool. ( IMO of course)
                                                                          ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Thank you guys!. That is what I wanted. That is not an insulin syringe. They have colored needle covers that correlate with the type of insulin you use.

I thought the color on the caps were different for the size needle it is? I don't think it's an insulin syringe either. Looks more like one used to get to a muscle. I know those are pretty long.

No Gizzie the color is about the type of insulin. I will have to find my book to explain it. But my Humilin insulin has an orange cap and the syringes have the orange needle cover.

Ooo...My sister is diabetic and uses the orange ones, but I've seen the blue tipped ones, and it was a bigger needle. That's why I thought it was colored for the needle size. But other than that, that's the extent of my needle knowledge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 04:58:16 PM
Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:00:19 PM
Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

Will someone report that pic for me...can't report my own lol. Geesh didn't mean to go so big.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2009, 05:01:08 PM
Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 05:01:24 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/turkey.jpg)

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

I think we have pretty much decided Malibu doesn't have any brain cells.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

No active brain cells is the prerequisite for being in or around the Anthony family. She has been elevated to top brainless member by wanting to be there as opposed to being born into the distorted gene pool. ( IMO of course)
                                                                          ::MonkeyCool::

And she absolutely lacks any self esteem. I don't think I have ever seen a pic of her and Lee where he is looking at her or paying her the least bit of attention. I have never seen him reach  for her hand, or touch her hair, or touched her elbow as they walk together. He never even acknowledges her in the slightest. JERK! And she is a worse jerk for putting up with it. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 05:04:05 PM
Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

If I see somebody coming at me with that thing, I'm running!!!!!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 05:08:44 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:09:33 PM
Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 10, 2009, 05:13:26 PM
Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:13:58 PM
Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

If I see somebody coming at me with that thing, I'm running!!!!!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)

The needles are not that big lol. I use the ultra fine and they are hard to even see.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 05:14:06 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.
True, just grasping at things  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 10, 2009, 05:15:24 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.

I thought that, with no particular reason and I might be wrong, that it is possible that a lab tech put that clear plastic cap on the syringe after testing so that no one would be stuck.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 05:16:13 PM
Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

See that? I thought insulin was insulin, but thank you for explaining that. I guess the thickness of the insulin would determine the needle gauge? I still think the syringe found is for muscle shots, like a tetanus shot, or a steroid shot...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
I am going through the BD catalog to see if I can find a match for the one in the bottle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Latent print on crime scene item?
November 10th, 2009

It appears OCSO may have lifted a latent print (or more) from one or more of the items found at the crime scene. On page 450 of the uber-document we have an Activity and Communication Log concerning evidence to be received and processed in by the FBI on March 5th that states:

    OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished proc’ing them so items will not be submitted for LPU as previously discussed.

When we look at the list of evidence processed in at the FBI lab on March 5th (page 451) we find the following items:

Q297-Q298 – swabs from bottom of gas container #1
Q299-Q300 – swabs from interior of oil pan
Q301-Q302 – swabs from bottom of gas container #2
Q303 – swab from clean wipes pack in backpack
Q304 – swab from comb handle in backpack
Q305-Q306 – swabs from pump of inflatable bed
Q307-Q308 – swabs from male portion of cord from flat iron (hair straightener)
Q309 – stone piece from crime scene
Q310 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q311-Q313 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q314 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q315-Q315.2 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q316-Q317 – pieces of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)
Q318 – piece of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)

Of course the latent prints wouldn’t come from any of the swabs, so we are left with the fairly good assumption that a print or prints were lifted from one or more of the items Q309 to Q318 retrieved from the crime scene.

It will be interesting to see who this print(s) belongs to.

Valhall.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 05:19:59 PM
Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 

And now I am wrong again. Maybe the different colors for the different manufacturers? Now I'm wondering why I saw a blue colored cap. Nothing to do with this case, but now that I'm thinking about it, it has me confuzzled.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 10, 2009, 05:20:09 PM
Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 

I just gave Charlie his shot.  His syringes will hold 50 units.  I give him 18 units twice a day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
Sorry, if this has already been posted

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
The Trunk Liner – where some REAL Chloroform was found
November 9th, 2009

So, we’ve discussed the Gatorade bottle and syringe. I think the claim it’s a “smoking gun” is a fair measure of hyperbole. As stated in my write up on the Entomology results, I think the bugs are far more problematic for Casey than the syringe. That and the duct tape, of course. But another sticky area for Casey lies in the chemical analysis results for the trunk liner. That’s where REAL chloroform returns have to be explained. Let’s start on page 645 of the mega-document, where we have a summary of chemical analysis for the various trunk liner pieces tested:  Q22-Q25 and Q44-Q45.  All showed signs of chloroform in varying amounts and, unlike the syringe, all were reportable.  Q25 is the only piece that is logged as “trace” and it’s taken from the right side of the trunk – interestingly, the opposite side of the trunk from where the Q12.1 “death hair” was collected. All of the rest are truly worth discussing.

There’s probably some things we ought to discuss about chloroform before we go any further.  Chloroform is a VOC (volatile organic compound).  The main thing you need to understand about a VOC is that it has a high vapor pressure.  When a liquid has a high vapor pressure it simply means it wants to evaporate easier than a liquid with a low vapor pressure.  Think about the “vapor pressure” being inside the liquid and trying to break free, and it being greater than the air pressure on the top of the liquid trying to keep it in, and you’ll have it straight.  So a VOC, because of it’s high vapor pressure, will begin to evaporate at a much lower temperature than a liquid with a lower vapor pressure.  In fact, liquid chloroform starts evaporating as soon as you take the top off the container.  BUT, and this is important, once chloroform evaporates from a liquid to a gas (vapor) it has a density 4 times greater than air.  So it sinks.  That’s important in looking at the trunk liner.  If chloroform was spilled in the trunk, or if it was even evaporated into the trunk, it would sink to the bottom and reside at, in, near the liner.

The next thing you need to know is that the number one “killer” of chloroform is UV light…sunlight.  That is why chloroform is typically stored in dark bottles, to prevent UV degradation.  So if you have vaporized chloroform out in the sunlight, it won’t live long.  When chloroform breaks down in sunlight it creates phosgene, another not so pleasant gas.  It was used as a chemical agent in World War I.  The important point here is that chloroform, in a protected area (away from sunlight), can hang around as a vapor due to the fact that the vapor is heavier than air and will sink and kind of “hang out” at the lowest level.  Inside Casey’s trunk it was protected from UV light, and could continue to reside there, near the liner, in vapor form.

It’s probably worth noting here before we go on with the chloroform issue that every single liner sample (6 in total) was noted to have a “putrefactive odor” when it was pulled from it’s sample container. They all smelled like death – or rotting pizza, depending on what your last name is.

Q22 is the mother-lode for chloroform.  It is a piece of the spare tire cover where we have read accounts of the “basketball sized” stain from George, and possibly (though we can’t confirm) a child-shaped outline by at least one law enforcement agent.  I’m not even going to venture a guess at what the order of magnitude of concentration is on this test because I’ll tell you right now that’s above my pay grade. You have a couple of snippets of carpet in a 20 mL vial (there’s actually two sets of tests ran, one with 20 mL vial and one with 10 mL vial), and I’m not about to take that one on.  Suffice it to say, there’s a lot of chloroform here.  While I won’t guess, I would be willing to bet around a thousand times more than in the Gatorade bottle (in the ppm range, but possibly even higher for at the liner itself)…at trial we’ll see if I have to pay up. The below graph is from the 20 mL test.

This last one shows the stacked results from all the liner samples.

Valhall.

NOTE: graphs on website


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 10, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Latent print on crime scene item?
November 10th, 2009

It appears OCSO may have lifted a latent print (or more) from one or more of the items found at the crime scene. On page 450 of the uber-document we have an Activity and Communication Log concerning evidence to be received and processed in by the FBI on March 5th that states:

    OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished proc’ing them so items will not be submitted for LPU as previously discussed.

When we look at the list of evidence processed in at the FBI lab on March 5th (page 451) we find the following items:

Q297-Q298 – swabs from bottom of gas container #1
Q299-Q300 – swabs from interior of oil pan
Q301-Q302 – swabs from bottom of gas container #2
Q303 – swab from clean wipes pack in backpack
Q304 – swab from comb handle in backpack
Q305-Q306 – swabs from pump of inflatable bed
Q307-Q308 – swabs from male portion of cord from flat iron (hair straightener)
Q309 – stone piece from crime scene
Q310 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q311-Q313 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q314 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q315-Q315.2 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q316-Q317 – pieces of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)
Q318 – piece of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)

Of course the latent prints wouldn’t come from any of the swabs, so we are left with the fairly good assumption that a print or prints were lifted from one or more of the items Q309 to Q318 retrieved from the crime scene.

It will be interesting to see who this print(s) belongs to.

Valhall.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Ooo, this could be good, very good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
 Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 10, 2009, 05:26:19 PM
Well just found out Florida does not require a prescription for syringes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 10, 2009, 05:43:28 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

Hi Mission.  I have for a long time thought that Casey grabbed Caylee and fled from Cindy's wrath on the night of the 15th and killed her that night. But after having read the Fanning book (Well, half of it anyway) I believe that Casey was back at home after George went to work on the 16th and she killed Caylee there on the afternoon of the 16th.  The phone pings have her at home talking to Tony most of the night of the 15th and the pings have her in the vicinity of her home on the afternoon of the 16th.  It's possible that Cindy had the syringe for some reason, after all she is an RN, and Casey got the tape, made the chloroform and got the syringe there at home and killed sweet Caylee on that day.  My opinion is always subject to change, though, and has many times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

Hi Mission.  I have for a long time thought that Casey grabbed Caylee and fled from Cindy's wrath on the night of the 15th and killed her that night. But after having read the Fanning book (Well, half of it anyway) I believe that Casey was back at home after George went to work on the 16th and she killed Caylee there on the afternoon of the 16th.  The phone pings have her at home talking to Tony most of the night of the 15th and the pings have her in the vicinity of her home on the afternoon of the 16th.  It's possible that Cindy had the syringe for some reason, after all she is an RN, and Casey got the tape, made the chloroform and got the syringe there at home and killed sweet Caylee on that day.  My opinion is always subject to change, though, and has many times.

Thank you so much Babybear I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on this - now I have something to think about and it sheds a whole new light on this needle.  Sometimes your mind gets stuck on one thing and it is hard to clear it out and let other things in.  Thanks again  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 05:59:28 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 06:02:48 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 06:05:05 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?

Big teddy bear for you!!!  She seems like the most likely, but I will go see if I can find out the recipe and how it's done before I keep shooying my mouth off. BBL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 06:06:21 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?

Big teddy bear for you!!!  She seems like the most likely, but I will go see if I can find out the recipe and how it's done before I keep shooying my mouth off. BBL

I'd like to know the shelf life of the concoction.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 10, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 
I personally don't, but I just have no idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

I have wondered the same things Mizjay - I can't imagine she had time to cook that up at the Ants home especially when George was home half the day each day.........my mind always swings around to Annie - I don't trust that one.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?

Crack me up Fanny I think I was posting when you were.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 10, 2009, 06:15:59 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 
I personally don't, but I just have no idea.
I just can't see KC being so planned - nothing about her life was planned she flew by the seat of her pants most of the time and I have always believed it was her temper that kicked in and Caylee took the brunt of her anger and rage and unfortunately dies   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 06:26:11 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?

Big teddy bear for you!!!  She seems like the most likely, but I will go see if I can find out the recipe and how it's done before I keep shooying my mouth off. BBL

I'd like to know the shelf life of the concoction.

I read back on SUNNY'S post, and it somewhat answered my question. But I am still wondering how long it would be potent in a good place for storage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 06:34:57 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

Annie's?

Crack me up Fanny I think I was posting when you were.  ::MonkeyWink::

High Five!!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 06:43:03 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

Hi Mission.  I have for a long time thought that Casey grabbed Caylee and fled from Cindy's wrath on the night of the 15th and killed her that night. But after having read the Fanning book (Well, half of it anyway) I believe that Casey was back at home after George went to work on the 16th and she killed Caylee there on the afternoon of the 16th.  The phone pings have her at home talking to Tony most of the night of the 15th and the pings have her in the vicinity of her home on the afternoon of the 16th.  It's possible that Cindy had the syringe for some reason, after all she is an RN, and Casey got the tape, made the chloroform and got the syringe there at home and killed sweet Caylee on that day.  My opinion is always subject to change, though, and has many times.

I'm still stuck on her killing Caylee  ::MonkeyWaa:: on the night of the 15/16. She had a plan formulated and just had to have the perfect storm of events to implement it, when she was finally furious enough. This was a rage killing.  Her car was her second home, her own private place. She could go and come where ever she pleased, and kept things she didn't want to be kept at home. The needle is no big deal to me. There are a thousand places she could have gotten one. I don't think she bought it. She could have just picked up one anywhere. The tape may have already been in her murder kit, stored in the trunk. She didn't kill Caylee at home. She came back the next day for the plastic bags, and even the laundry hamper later, at another time when the Ants were away. Caylee was dead in the trunk when she and Tone went to Blockbusters, and had been for quite a while. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 07:00:20 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

I have wondered the same things Mizjay - I can't imagine she had time to cook that up at the Ants home especially when George was home half the day each day.........my mind always swings around to Annie - I don't trust that one.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Okay, I'm back. The recipe that I found on the how to site did say that in order to have any amount at all you need at least a gallon of bleach, acetone ( not fingernail polish remover) lots and lots of ice and lots of time. It has to sit, you have to keep replacing the ice etc. KC would've needed a lot of uninterupted time, containers, a funnel, dark container,  just doesn't sound like something she would've risked doing at home. Now maybe she bought it from someone but again, who?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 10, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
I find it very interesting reading what everyone THINKS happened...when and how....as for me...I no longer know what I think.....for the longest I really thought it was an accident...that thought was reinforced when the first DP attorney Terrence L wrote the brief about why she should not be eligible for the DP stating something about it being an accident...IIRC... insinuating perhaps Caylee drown....I could even allow myself to believe she put the duct tape across Caylee mouth and nose to try to make it look like an abduction gone wrong..then gradually as more things came to light I began to think....she really did mean to kill her...it was a lot easier for me to believe it was an accident than a MURDER.  Now I am convince she did in fact MURDER her.....I don't exactly know how or when or where...I just know, in my soul, that she did. and I have accepted we/I may never know those exact facts. Even if kc said what happened I am not sure I could believe what she said. But now I do in fact know she murdered Caylee and I do believe she will be convicted. I am on the fence about the DP...at this point either the DP or LWOP is acceptable.  As more and more evidence comes to light I know we will see and read things that will burn holes in our hearts, that will make the anger overtake us at times.  But I will keep on believing that the state has the evidence to convict her. Caylee is in God's hands and knows nothing except His love and glory.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 07:15:51 PM
I find it very interesting reading what everyone THINKS happened...when and how....as for me...I no longer know what I think.....for the longest I really thought it was an accident...that thought was reinforced when the first DP attorney Terrence L wrote the brief about why she should not be eligible for the DP stating something about it being an accident...IIRC... insinuating perhaps Caylee drown....I could even allow myself to believe she put the duct tape across Caylee mouth and nose to try to make it look like an abduction gone wrong..then gradually as more things came to light I began to think....she really did mean to kill her...it was a lot easier for me to believe it was an accident than a MURDER.  Now I am convince she did in fact MURDER her.....I don't exactly know how or when or where...I just know, in my soul, that she did. and I have accepted we/I may never know those exact facts. Even if kc said what happened I am not sure I could believe what she said. But now I do in fact know she murdered Caylee and I do believe she will be convicted. I am on the fence about the DP...at this point either the DP or LWOP is acceptable.  As more and more evidence comes to light I know we will see and read things that will burn holes in our hearts, that will make the anger overtake us at times.  But I will keep on believing that the state has the evidence to convict her. Caylee is in God's hands and knows nothing except His love and glory.


  Caylee       ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 10, 2009, 07:20:27 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

I have wondered the same things Mizjay - I can't imagine she had time to cook that up at the Ants home especially when George was home half the day each day.........my mind always swings around to Annie - I don't trust that one.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Okay, I'm back. The recipe that I found on the how to site did say that in order to have any amount at all you need at least a gallon of bleach, acetone ( not fingernail polish remover) lots and lots of ice and lots of time. It has to sit, you have to keep replacing the ice etc. KC would've needed a lot of uninterupted time, containers, a funnel, dark container,  just doesn't sound like something she would've risked doing at home. Now maybe she bought it from someone but again, who?

The truth of it is, KC had nothing but time on her hands. Was she smart enough to do it? I think yes. Acetone can be bought at the hardware/Home Depot/Lowes easily. It comes in various sizes. Bleach & ice, no problem. Did she know others that knew how to do it. No doubt. But actually, I think she was really too lazy to do it herself. She was into a lot of different people. Who was that guy that lived in Lake County who she was in touch with? I think he is in jail now. My point is, she knew what it was. My pain, is the thought of her injecting Caylee with it. May KC rot in he77!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 10, 2009, 07:36:28 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?
I am having a hard time with this needle thing - I mean if she left the house on the 15th in a fit after having a fight with Cindy she either ran out and bought a syringe and had the chloroform neatly tucked away in the car ready to go and this was to be the night she injects her daughter to kill her OR she did it the next day when she had time to obtain a syringe and get some chloroform together but because I am so inclined to believe that Caylee died in the early hours of June 16th I really have to ask did she actually have this planned down to the minute with needle and chloroform ready to go? 

I'm still stuck on when and where she made the chloroform. from what I read somewhere, you need to use a large amount of bleach. I could easily be wrong about this, but if that's true. Did she do it at home where every bottle and container is accounted for. What about spills or stains. I think she made with somebody else at someone else's house. Whose?

I have wondered the same things Mizjay - I can't imagine she had time to cook that up at the Ants home especially when George was home half the day each day.........my mind always swings around to Annie - I don't trust that one.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Okay, I'm back. The recipe that I found on the how to site did say that in order to have any amount at all you need at least a gallon of bleach, acetone ( not fingernail polish remover) lots and lots of ice and lots of time. It has to sit, you have to keep replacing the ice etc. KC would've needed a lot of uninterupted time, containers, a funnel, dark container,  just doesn't sound like something she would've risked doing at home. Now maybe she bought it from someone but again, who?

The truth of it is, KC had nothing but time on her hands. Was she smart enough to do it? I think yes. Acetone can be bought at the hardware/Home Depot/Lowes easily. It comes in various sizes. Bleach & ice, no problem. Did she know others that knew how to do it. No doubt. But actually, I think she was really too lazy to do it herself. She was into a lot of different people. Who was that guy that lived in Lake County who she was in touch with? I think he is in jail now. My point is, she knew what it was. My pain, is the thought of her injecting Caylee with it. May KC rot in he77!
:smt038 :smt038 :smt038
For as much time as we've spent trying to figure it out I hope and pray that The State of Fl. already knows where or how she got it cause that's a vile thing to do to anyone, most of all a precious innocent child. Yes rot in he!! for all eternity kc.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 10, 2009, 08:08:07 PM
OK, I couldn't stand it.  I looked up how to make chloroform. It's really easy, just takes a half gallon of bleach, a bag of party ice and a bottle of acetone from a hardware store.  Doesn't take long, can be stored in a brown glass bottle for up to a week. I scared my sister-in-law when she saw I was reading how to make chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 10, 2009, 08:41:04 PM
As a nurse I have given thousands of injections. The syringe is a 3cc syringe and the needle is
one to one and one half inches and would be used for an intramuscular injection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2009, 08:53:47 PM
I would think that there is too many ways of getting syringes, even ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Syringe-3CC-L-L-100-bx-Syringe-MV3CCLL_W0QQitemZ170399790227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ac9e7493 and if anyone knows someone that takes shots for diabetes then you can just grab one.. I hope they have finger prints and DNA but if there is a sells receipt all the better.. I just have to have more faith in people but it seems there are a lot of people that are brain dead, after following this case and others that are simular.. I wish I could go back in believing that there wasn't so much evil in this world but so far I haven't been able to go back to the magical world where make believe where there is friendly dancing pixies.. I just have to shake my head and say yikes!  how did all this evil come into this world and now attacking our children..  Well back to work and hopefully Casey never sleeps another night without knowing that someone more evil than her is waiting for her to join him..

td


I continue to hope there will be justice for Caylee,   ::MonkeyAngel::   and I hope Casey will get what she's got coming to her.  I hope the remainder of her life here on Earth is a living hell and she knows no peace for the evil she's done.

It's go good to see you again Terry , our monkey friend from waa-a-a-aa-y back.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 10, 2009, 08:53:51 PM
This is interesting.
The bugs will tell the story .......  ::MonkeyHang::

"At crime scenes like the home of suspected serial killer Anthony Sowell, bug expert Joe Keiper uses insects as clues"

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/11/post_111.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Shell on November 10, 2009, 11:06:20 PM
I find it very interesting reading what everyone THINKS happened...when and how....as for me...I no longer know what I think.....for the longest I really thought it was an accident...that thought was reinforced when the first DP attorney Terrence L wrote the brief about why she should not be eligible for the DP stating something about it being an accident...IIRC... insinuating perhaps Caylee drown....I could even allow myself to believe she put the duct tape across Caylee mouth and nose to try to make it look like an abduction gone wrong..then gradually as more things came to light I began to think....she really did mean to kill her...it was a lot easier for me to believe it was an accident than a MURDER.  Now I am convince she did in fact MURDER her.....I don't exactly know how or when or where...I just know, in my soul, that she did. and I have accepted we/I may never know those exact facts. Even if kc said what happened I am not sure I could believe what she said. But now I do in fact know she murdered Caylee and I do believe she will be convicted. I am on the fence about the DP...at this point either the DP or LWOP is acceptable.  As more and more evidence comes to light I know we will see and read things that will burn holes in our hearts, that will make the anger overtake us at times.  But I will keep on believing that the state has the evidence to convict her. Caylee is in God's hands and knows nothing except His love and glory.

Sunny, excellent post,you said what was on my mind. Thank you and hugzzz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Shell on November 10, 2009, 11:09:10 PM
I find it very interesting reading what everyone THINKS happened...when and how....as for me...I no longer know what I think.....for the longest I really thought it was an accident...that thought was reinforced when the first DP attorney Terrence L wrote the brief about why she should not be eligible for the DP stating something about it being an accident...IIRC... insinuating perhaps Caylee drown....I could even allow myself to believe she put the duct tape across Caylee mouth and nose to try to make it look like an abduction gone wrong..then gradually as more things came to light I began to think....she really did mean to kill her...it was a lot easier for me to believe it was an accident than a MURDER.  Now I am convince she did in fact MURDER her.....I don't exactly know how or when or where...I just know, in my soul, that she did. and I have accepted we/I may never know those exact facts. Even if kc said what happened I am not sure I could believe what she said. But now I do in fact know she murdered Caylee and I do believe she will be convicted. I am on the fence about the DP...at this point either the DP or LWOP is acceptable.  As more and more evidence comes to light I know we will see and read things that will burn holes in our hearts, that will make the anger overtake us at times.  But I will keep on believing that the state has the evidence to convict her. Caylee is in God's hands and knows nothing except His love and glory.


Attempting to get the quotes right >

Sunny, excellent post,you said what was on my mind. Thank you and hugzzz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Shell on November 10, 2009, 11:12:42 PM

Terryyyyyy, great seeing you post. I really appreciate your giving us a glimpse of what is is like being in your shoes and I hope everything is going ok for you.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 11, 2009, 12:46:59 AM
I would think that there is too many ways of getting syringes, even ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Syringe-3CC-L-L-100-bx-Syringe-MV3CCLL_W0QQitemZ170399790227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ac9e7493 and if anyone knows someone that takes shots for diabetes then you can just grab one.. I hope they have finger prints and DNA but if there is a sells receipt all the better.. I just have to have more faith in people but it seems there are a lot of people that are brain dead, after following this case and others that are simular.. I wish I could go back in believing that there wasn't so much evil in this world but so far I haven't been able to go back to the magical world where make believe where there is friendly dancing pixies.. I just have to shake my head and say yikes!  how did all this evil come into this world and now attacking our children..  Well back to work and hopefully Casey never sleeps another night without knowing that someone more evil than her is waiting for her to join him..

td

Terryd - great to see you!  Hope you are doing well!

I agree, syringes are a dime a dozen and especially easy to come by considering Cindy is a nurse, not to mention diabetics.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 06:45:13 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyBike::

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wkmg-says-chloroform-evidence-isnt-smoking-gun.html
Casey Anthony: WKMG says chloroform evidence isn't smoking gun
posted by halboedeker on Nov 10, 2009 11:44:15 PM
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How important was the evidence that chloroform was in a Gatorade bottle, along with a syringe, near Caylee Anthony's remains?

It's no smoking gun in the case, WKMG-Channel 6 said in a report tonight.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

WKMG anchor Lauren Rowe teased that the CBS affiliate would have a report you wouldn't see anywhere else. And that wasn't mere boasting.

Reporter Tony Pipitone said the station had confirmed there was little concentration of chloroform in the bottle. The chloroform was 12 parts per billion -- chloroform in tap water can be 80 parts per billion. The station found its confirmation through an independent chemist, who said the chloroform was insignificant.

The state released documents about the chloroform evidence Friday.  Pipitone said testosterone was more present than chloroform.

While everyone else is zigging, Pipitone is zagging. That's what makes him such a valuable reporter for WKMG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 06:52:56 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Casey-Anthony-murder-suspect-the-National-Enquire-now-there-is-a-pair-to-draw-too
Casey Anthony murder suspect: the National Enquirer now there is a pair to draw too.
Casey Anthony according to the “National Enquirer” is reportedly upset over a stage play written by Steven Soderbergh. He gave the play the name “Tot Mom.”
The name in and by itself is offensive if it relates to this tragic event.


The only thing that makes this a story is that if, and it’s a very big if, the National Enquirer is telling the truth, which on rare occasion during a total eclipse of the sun they have been caught telling the truth at least twice.

In the words that one would expect to her from Nancy Grace: you’rCasey who really gives a rip if you're upset about anything girl! Come on I mean really! The aforementioned is not an actual quote from Ms. Nancy Grace, but in fact is a parody on what one might expect her to say.
The Parody continues below:
But then Nancy never at a loss for words would likely continue: Casey I feel the need to express to you the very real likelihood, that when the jury goes into that jury room, they are going to say, this girl went out to party when her child was supposedly kidnapped! Girl they are going to give you life in prison, and the parole board in Florida will be piping in day light until you’re well into your eighties. Now that’s just my opinion mind you!
So does the National Enquirer actually have a pipeline into Casey Anthony? Why not, she and that magazine have a lot in common, they’re both trash.


Would you go outside and check the sky if the National Enquirer said it were blue, You can bet the majority of Americans with an IQ above lukewarm would.


Does the above parody echo what Nancy Grace would likely say about this situation? In the words of a recent Vice Presidential candidate “You bet Ja!”
None of this meant to poke fun at the tragic events surrounding the death of Caylee Anthony. It is meant to demonstrate the circus that this defendant seems to be the ringmaster of in Florida.
Casey's attorney is denying that any of the information printed by the National Enquirer is true. But then again the same attorney is saying his client is not guilty.

Just to let you know
I have recently had a stroke that has resulted in some seizures. At times I make grammar errors as I don't always have someone available to proof read these articles, before I have to submit them. I try to do my best to keep the information fresh.

The old brain doesn't connect the dots as it once might have. The stroke dusted some of the dots of my dice I'm afraid. Thank you for being understanding.


Please feel free to point these errors out to me as I review all comments and try to use the information to give you a better article.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 06:55:31 AM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=666
Casey Anthony cold blooded killer

Commentary
Newly revealed evidence in the Casey Anthony case reveals her to be a cold blooded killer, and not one who accidentally overdosed her child on a mix of homemade chloroform and testosterone. The idea that a mother would intentionally murder her child still shocks and is often found unbelievable, even though current news reports show that women are just as capable of cold, calculated murder against their own flesh and blood. That doesn’t lessen the astonishment, however, when it occurs. The revelation of a syringe with traces of chloroform paints the picture of Casey Anthony as a cold hearted murderess who purposefully and intentionally planned to murder Caylee Anthony.


Will the newly revealed evidence be enough to bring George and Cindy Anthony the revelation they need to finally remove the Casey colored blinders they’ve been wearing?


There is still a chance that the prosecution is withholding more bombshell evidence from the public, such as DNA evidence on the syringe or Gatorade bottle.
The revelation of chloroform in the Gatorade bottle and syringe near Caylee Anthony’s skeletal remains combined with the information that someone in the home was previously searching chloroform recipes is huge. However, it is important to remember that the computer searches were not only for chloroform, but also for neck breaking. There is no way to confirm whether or not Caylee Anthony’s neck had been broken, but if it were, it would have accelerated the rate of detachment of the skull from the rest of the body. Caylee Anthony’s skull was found separate from the rest of her bones.


The horrific thought that Casey Anthony injected Caylee Anthony with chloroform then broke her neck paints Casey Anthony as a cold blooded killer, and not someone who tried to sedate her daughter so she could go out and party. Traces of chloroform were also found in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car.


It’s important to remember that the medical examiner ruled Caylee Anthony’s death as homicide by undetermined means, but the evidence that links chloroform to Caylee Anthony might be the nail that seals Casey Anthony’s fate.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 6:43 am EST November 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
The chemical was found in a liquid contained in a Cool Blue Gatorade bottle and syringe, which were inside a World of Disney bag that lay just six inches from the 2-year-old’s skull, when it was found in December.

The girl’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with murder and aggravated child abuse in connection with the death, which the medical examiner ruled a homicide, though the cause of death is undetermined.
The traces of chloroform in the liquid received much media attention last week, when its presence was noted in more than 2,000 pages of documents released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office.

HLN cable news personality Nancy Grace stated on her show the syringe was “loaded” with chloroform, and legal analysts have called the chloroform discovery a “smoking gun” or otherwise damaging to the defense.

But a closer look the FBI laboratory test results on the liquid reveals the level of chloroform in the liquid constitutes only about 12 parts per billion. By comparison, drinking water can contain up to 80 parts per billion of chloroform and its chemical cousins and still pass the Environmental Protection Agency standards for chlorinated drinking water.

Neither prosecutors nor defense attorneys would comment on the findings, but Local 6 took them to an independent chemist who said the presence of chloroform at that level was not significant.

The FBI chemist who did the tests did not even mention chloroform in his final report, turned over to investigators in July 2009 – two months after he started testing the substance.

In his report, Michael Rickenbach stated the “whitish/murky liquid … could be from a type of cleaning product. Additionally, a mixture of testosterone compounds” was identified in both the bottle and syringe.

That would suggest the syringe and bottle may be connected to someone injecting testosterone – a steroid often used by body builders and others seeking to increase muscle mass.

DNA tests on the bottle and syringe failed to produce any results.
Without any evidence tying Casey Anthony to the steroid mixture, Gatorade bottle or syringe, the contents of the World of Disney bag and its proximity to Caylee may be of no evidentiary value to either the state or the defense.

World of Disney Bag. (http://www.clickorlando.com/2009/1110/21577988_240X135.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: terryd270 on November 11, 2009, 08:40:39 AM
So if Caylee died from a syringe filled with chloroform then I believe it would be fitting that Casey dies the same way..  Thanks for remembering me, I do read here a lot just don't post..I feel great and really the only problem is that I lost some hearing from the Chemo, not much but enough that in meetings I have to listen and asked a lot of questions.. I actually thought it was the radiation that caused it but the ENT said no Chemo is more likely the reason..  I do believe that Casey friends and family know a lot more then they want us to believe.. I noticed that the saying "birds of a feather flock together" is so true in this.. I mean can all her friends of been in laa la land and never asked and looked to see where Caylee was while their ^&*^*^* buddy was out without no limits..  I know if I have a friend with a child I always asked how they are doing and if I saw that person a few times I would start to question so where is she or he while your testing everyones bed for a spring bounce??  If they couldn't give me a good enough answer I would report them or call the parents and say something is not right in Florida.. Opps thats right it does seem we here in Florida have a virus among us and hopefully giving Casey a shot will rid one of those virus..  The parents are disgusting and show its all about them.. Anyway I do believe that the State has a lot more on this crime then we know.  Most of my friends have the same value set as mine, those that don't usually are not those that I choose to hang out with.. I believe the same for Casey..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 11, 2009, 08:53:33 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I am so ready for some justice for Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 09:05:06 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I am so ready for some justice for Caylee. 


You got that right!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 11, 2009, 09:30:24 AM
Thank-you Trimm for the updates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 09:51:07 AM
As a nurse I have given thousands of injections. The syringe is a 3cc syringe and the needle is
one to one and one half inches and would be used for an intramuscular injection.

Thanks Blu....that clears up what this type of needle is used for.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
I would think that there is too many ways of getting syringes, even ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Syringe-3CC-L-L-100-bx-Syringe-MV3CCLL_W0QQitemZ170399790227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ac9e7493 and if anyone knows someone that takes shots for diabetes then you can just grab one.. I hope they have finger prints and DNA but if there is a sells receipt all the better.. I just have to have more faith in people but it seems there are a lot of people that are brain dead, after following this case and others that are simular.. I wish I could go back in believing that there wasn't so much evil in this world but so far I haven't been able to go back to the magical world where make believe where there is friendly dancing pixies.. I just have to shake my head and say yikes!  how did all this evil come into this world and now attacking our children..  Well back to work and hopefully Casey never sleeps another night without knowing that someone more evil than her is waiting for her to join him..

td


I continue to hope there will be justice for Caylee,   ::MonkeyAngel::   and I hope Casey will get what she's got coming to her.  I hope the remainder of her life here on Earth is a living hell and she knows no peace for the evil she's done.

It's go good to see you again Terry , our monkey friend from waa-a-a-aa-y back.   ::MonkeyCool::


Hi Terry...it is SO GOOD TO SEE YOU!!  Welcome Home!  I hope all is well with you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 11, 2009, 09:57:42 AM
good morning all...
Justice for Caylee...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 09:59:09 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyBike::

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wkmg-says-chloroform-evidence-isnt-smoking-gun.html
Casey Anthony: WKMG says chloroform evidence isn't smoking gun
posted by halboedeker on Nov 10, 2009 11:44:15 PM
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How important was the evidence that chloroform was in a Gatorade bottle, along with a syringe, near Caylee Anthony's remains?

It's no smoking gun in the case, WKMG-Channel 6 said in a report tonight.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

WKMG anchor Lauren Rowe teased that the CBS affiliate would have a report you wouldn't see anywhere else. And that wasn't mere boasting.

Reporter Tony Pipitone said the station had confirmed there was little concentration of chloroform in the bottle. The chloroform was 12 parts per billion -- chloroform in tap water can be 80 parts per billion. The station found its confirmation through an independent chemist, who said the chloroform was insignificant.

The state released documents about the chloroform evidence Friday.  Pipitone said testosterone was more present than chloroform.

While everyone else is zigging, Pipitone is zagging. That's what makes him such a valuable reporter for WKMG.


Good Morning trim and all Monks..old and new....not sure this is what we wanted to read....but perhaps again it is.......but if this is true.....it's one of those things that make ya go uuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I am so ready for some justice for Caylee. 

Hi monka...me too. But as we know the wheels of justice turn slowly.But when it finally comes for Caylee it will be swift and hard!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
So if Caylee died from a syringe filled with chloroform then I believe it would be fitting that Casey dies the same way..  Thanks for remembering me, I do read here a lot just don't post..I feel great and really the only problem is that I lost some hearing from the Chemo, not much but enough that in meetings I have to listen and asked a lot of questions.. I actually thought it was the radiation that caused it but the ENT said no Chemo is more likely the reason..  I do believe that Casey friends and family know a lot more then they want us to believe.. I noticed that the saying "birds of a feather flock together" is so true in this.. I mean can all her friends of been in laa la land and never asked and looked to see where Caylee was while their ^&*^*^* buddy was out without no limits..  I know if I have a friend with a child I always asked how they are doing and if I saw that person a few times I would start to question so where is she or he while your testing everyones bed for a spring bounce??  If they couldn't give me a good enough answer I would report them or call the parents and say something is not right in Florida.. Opps thats right it does seem we here in Florida have a virus among us and hopefully giving Casey a shot will rid one of those virus..  The parents are disgusting and show its all about them.. Anyway I do believe that the State has a lot more on this crime then we know.  Most of my friends have the same value set as mine, those that don't usually are not those that I choose to hang out with.. I believe the same for Casey..

Terry...thanks for the update....a loss of hearing, ummm....my DH has that and he didn't have chemo ::MonkeyWink::  of course his is selective!!  Good post BTW!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 11, 2009, 10:05:33 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 10:14:34 AM
I find it very interesting reading what everyone THINKS happened...when and how....as for me...I no longer know what I think.....for the longest I really thought it was an accident...that thought was reinforced when the first DP attorney Terrence L wrote the brief about why she should not be eligible for the DP stating something about it being an accident...IIRC... insinuating perhaps Caylee drown....I could even allow myself to believe she put the duct tape across Caylee mouth and nose to try to make it look like an abduction gone wrong..then gradually as more things came to light I began to think....she really did mean to kill her...it was a lot easier for me to believe it was an accident than a MURDER.  Now I am convince she did in fact MURDER her.....I don't exactly know how or when or where...I just know, in my soul, that she did. and I have accepted we/I may never know those exact facts. Even if kc said what happened I am not sure I could believe what she said. But now I do in fact know she murdered Caylee and I do believe she will be convicted. I am on the fence about the DP...at this point either the DP or LWOP is acceptable.  As more and more evidence comes to light I know we will see and read things that will burn holes in our hearts, that will make the anger overtake us at times.  But I will keep on believing that the state has the evidence to convict her. Caylee is in God's hands and knows nothing except His love and glory.


Attempting to get the quotes right >

Sunny, excellent post,you said what was on my mind. Thank you and hugzzz.


Hi Shell...thanks....Sometimes I just have to step back and look at what is important to me......and that gives me comfort knowing that Caylee is OK ::MonkeyWink::  O/T is your house finshed? Have you posted pictures lately? If so, where?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Morning nrcg. Actually I hope the bottle and syringe is not connected.....the thought that it could be is horrifying.  I still hold onto the belief that the State has a lot more.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: jill on November 11, 2009, 10:23:13 AM
so, I'm looking at Casey's docket and see that there will be a hearing on 12/11.

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=3e260a56-55c1-4183-8ca4-119d20e5c782&CaseID=6079536

the 1st anniversary of the day Caylee was found.

I love poetic justice!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 11, 2009, 10:27:16 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Morning nrcg. Actually I hope the bottle and syringe is not connected.....the thought that it could be is horrifying.  I still hold onto the belief that the State has a lot more.....
I really hope they have fingerprints, they must imo to proceed with a DP case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kimmy53 on November 11, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I am no means an expert, and I don;t understand alot of this - BUT did the chemist take into consideration that the chloroform was found in a CLEAR bottle - and according to what we have read on chloroform, it breaks down with UV lighting.  We don;t know the original concentration of chloroform in the bottle - it has been out in the elements and IMO has broken down...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 11, 2009, 11:06:28 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I am no means an expert, and I don;t understand alot of this - BUT did the chemist take into consideration that the chloroform was found in a CLEAR bottle - and according to what we have read on chloroform, it breaks down with UV lighting.  We don;t know the original concentration of chloroform in the bottle - it has been out in the elements and IMO has broken down...
I wish I could answer you, I'm completely lost with this type of conversation, it was getting all complicated with formulas and stuff, and I just stopped reading. You make a good point, hopefully someone knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 11:22:18 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Morning nrcg. Actually I hope the bottle and syringe is not connected.....the thought that it could be is horrifying.  I still hold onto the belief that the State has a lot more.....
I really hope they have fingerprints, they must imo to proceed with a DP case.

Me too nr......I gotta believe they have something that ties kc DIRECTLY to the murder or they wouldn't have brought back the DP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 11, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I am no means an expert, and I don;t understand alot of this - BUT did the chemist take into consideration that the chloroform was found in a CLEAR bottle - and according to what we have read on chloroform, it breaks down with UV lighting.  We don;t know the original concentration of chloroform in the bottle - it has been out in the elements and IMO has broken down...

Hi kimmy......we have no idea what this independent chemist took into consideration.....he/she just went by what he saw in the docs. IIRC the bottle was in a bag so that might have afforded some protection....but who knows for sure. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 11:35:43 AM
Good Morning.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 11, 2009, 11:41:31 AM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I am no means an expert, and I don;t understand alot of this - BUT did the chemist take into consideration that the chloroform was found in a CLEAR bottle - and according to what we have read on chloroform, it breaks down with UV lighting.  We don;t know the original concentration of chloroform in the bottle - it has been out in the elements and IMO has broken down...

I would assume the amount of chloroform residue would be so small it was lucky any was found at all. 1. The chloroform was at the bottom of the liquid, if it was made in a bottle that size there would only be a teaspoon or so of the product, the product was extracted and used, there was little left to begin with. 2. Unless chloroform is kept in an airtight container it rapidly breaks down into some rather nasty components. 3. After exposure to the elements for months a lot of evaporation would have occurred and I would only expect to find traces in both the bottle and syringe.
Lets face it I'm sure you will have "experts" for and against the presence of actual chloroform but I think we should wait and see where LE says it belongs in the scheme of things. I have a great deal of faith in LE in this case, they are methodical and unwavering in their quest for justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 11, 2009, 11:42:09 AM
Good Morning.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/WINKY.gif)

Arrrrrgh....Fanny you scared me  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 11, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
Good Morning.
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lol...good morning Fanny...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 11, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
Good Morning,  ::MonkeyAngel::

Don't you think that picture looks like Georgie as a baby.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 12:14:31 PM
Good Morning,  ::MonkeyAngel::

Don't you think that picture looks like Georgie as a baby.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/lala6667/surprised-003.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 11, 2009, 12:17:29 PM
Good Morning,  ::MonkeyAngel::

Don't you think that picture looks like Georgie as a baby.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/lala6667/surprised-003.gif)

a face only a mother could love...tee hee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2009, 02:27:41 PM
Good Morning,  ::MonkeyAngel::

Don't you think that picture looks like Georgie as a baby.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

That was the basis of the avatar for SM poster OldFart.  And he wasn't scary.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 11, 2009, 02:45:19 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-PI-Dominic-Casey-to-be-deposed-in-December
Casey Anthony case: PI Dominic Casey to be deposed by prosecution in December
November 11, 2:00 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
The private investigator hired by George and Cindy Anthony in the summer of 2008 to help them search for their missing granddaughter, Caylee Anthony, will be deposed by prosecutors regarding the Casey Anthony case on Dec. 16.

Casey is the Anthony’s daughter, and is charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

According to Hal Boedeker of the Orlando Sentinel, the controversial PI was originally scheduled to be deposed on Thursday.
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID1168/images/Casey_and_Dominic_Casey%281%29.jpg)
Casey Anthony, left, walks with private investigator, Dominic Casey.

In January, WFTV obtained video of Mr. Casey aggressively searching the site where Caylee's remains were ultimately found. The video was taken by his colleague, PI Jim Hoover, in mid-November 2008—less than a month before the toddler’s remains were discovered by Roy Kronk. Mr. Casey claimed to be talking on his cell phone to a psychic while the video was being shot.

To see the video, click here.

The video was deemed to be important, because many believe it proves Mr. Casey had inside information about the whereabouts of Caylee prior to her being found in December.

Casey’s murder trial is scheduled to begin in June 2010.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: karenmamo on November 11, 2009, 04:45:06 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-PI-Dominic-Casey-to-be-deposed-in-December
Casey Anthony case: PI Dominic Casey to be deposed by prosecution in December
November 11, 2:00 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
The private investigator hired by George and Cindy Anthony in the summer of 2008 to help them search for their missing granddaughter, Caylee Anthony, will be deposed by prosecutors regarding the Casey Anthony case on Dec. 16.

Casey is the Anthony’s daughter, and is charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

According to Hal Boedeker of the Orlando Sentinel, the controversial PI was originally scheduled to be deposed on Thursday.
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID1168/images/Casey_and_Dominic_Casey%281%29.jpg)
Casey Anthony, left, walks with private investigator, Dominic Casey.

In January, WFTV obtained video of Mr. Casey aggressively searching the site where Caylee's remains were ultimately found. The video was taken by his colleague, PI Jim Hoover, in mid-November 2008—less than a month before the toddler’s remains were discovered by Roy Kronk. Mr. Casey claimed to be talking on his cell phone to a psychic while the video was being shot.

To see the video, click here.

The video was deemed to be important, because many believe it proves Mr. Casey had inside information about the whereabouts of Caylee prior to her being found in December.

Casey’s murder trial is scheduled to begin in June 2010.

Really OT here, but does that Dom Casey have long feet, or what! ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: AnnetteInMn on November 11, 2009, 05:27:15 PM
I've had several new thoughts following this latest document release but the one thought that has NOT changed is that I truly believe Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage using the duct tape as her means to suffocate Caylee.  I personally don't believe that the duct tape was applied as an afterthought.

My opinion on the Chloroform is that Casey wasn't necessarily interested in making it herself.  Instead, she was interested in impressing Ricardo with her knowledge.   I believe that Ricardo produces or has produced Chlorofom whether used as a sexual enhancer or in some other way as a recreational drug.  If Casey obtained Chlorofom I believe it was from Ricardo as she is simply too lazy to make it own her own.  Jesse alluded to the fact that Casey is like a chameleon and will become what she believes others are looking for. 

I have no doubt that Casey had Chlorofom in her trunk.  I'm not yet convinced she used the Chlorofom in association with Caylee's death or even as a way to "put Caylee to sleep".  I further believe that IF the syringe found at the remains site is related to this case; Casey then stole it from Ricardo's apartment.  I don't take much of what the Anthony's say into consideration because we all know they lie like rugs but sometimes there is a little of grain of truth in even the lies people tell.  Maybe, just maybe, there is some truth to the heroin story.  I'm not saying that Ricardo and company are addicts by any means but perhaps there has been some experimentation resulting in syringes being available.  Or maybe, just maybe, there's been some experimentation with steriods. 

These are of course my own opinions.  I believe that a cover up was an afterthought for Casey and I don't believe there was much thought put into it at all.  IF the syringe evidence found at the remains site is related to this case then I would tend to believe that it was Casey's way of setting someone else up to take the fall and I think Ricardo may have been the fall guy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 11, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Just thinking... I think KC murdered Caylee and that she used chloroform.  She most likely made it up in the Gatorade bottle and used the syringe to extract the chlorform out of the bottle and into Caylee.  I believe there is so little chloroform in the bottle and the syringe because: first, there would be little chlorform to begin with and most of it would have been used on Caylee; second, chlorform evaporates extremely quickly so any residual would mostly evaporate; third, that it's extremely unlucky for KC that any chlorform at all was detectable after all those months.

I believe chloroform in the car, in the carpet in the car, on Caylee's doll, in the bottle, in the syringe are all a trail. KC's boyfriend's computer with the word chloroform on it was probably where KC first got the interest/idea; then...searches on the computer for chloroform, neck breaking and how to kill with household products. We have a trail of chlorform. It cannot be ignored.

KC may be lazy, but when motivated to get rid of Caylee, she was very active.

I believe she plotted for months (probably from February on).  She came up with a very elaborate scheme; however, it didn't work well because she's not that bright.  She made it too elaborate....not simple.

I believe she stole a used needle (to possible implicate others...probably thought that was a smart idea).  KC, being the daughter of a nurse would know to put the cap back on the needle; but I believe she made sure she had all the little parts accounted for: cap on needle, needle in bag, bag in bottle, bottle in Disney bag (forethought of blaming the nanny). 

I think Caylee ended up down the street and around the corner because with the hot weather, Caylee became a bigger problem more quickly than KC thought and the smell and liquid had to be gotten rid of...so KC drove down the street and around the corner and tossed Caylee out like she was trash.  Also, KC tossed anything else she thought would be a problem; i.e., bag with bottle/needle.

Most people would NOT toss out the murder evidence with the body; however, we're talking KC here.  I think KC got really irritated/upset at the continuing problem Caylee was (even after death) and in a fury just tossed everything out.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 11, 2009, 07:19:39 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 11, 2009, 08:09:45 PM
Depositions in Anthony case Thursday
Updated: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
<snipped>
Mallory Parker will give her deposition Thursday morning and when she is done Dominic Casey will be deposed. He is the private investigators who worked for George and Cindy Anthony.

*NOTE: DC's depo was postponed till December 16th! Link added for reference:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html

Article:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...ony-deposition

Did we know Mallory's depo was tomorrow?  I knew that D. Casey's was moved, but I forgot or never knew about Mallory's.  Hmmm....How quickly will we be able to see/read this one?
I think this will be very interesting.  I've never really seen her, (except on the cruise ship, I'm sorry to say.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 11, 2009, 09:39:28 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 09:42:51 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



I cup of one ingredient, 1 teaspoon of another ingredient, 15 cubes of ice = 1 tablespoon.

What is lethal? I have no idea.  Just from my looking it up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 09:44:25 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.

Jinks!!! I guess we were looking it up at the same time.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 09:45:38 PM
Depositions in Anthony case Thursday
Updated: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
<snipped>
Mallory Parker will give her deposition Thursday morning and when she is done Dominic Casey will be deposed. He is the private investigators who worked for George and Cindy Anthony.

*NOTE: DC's depo was postponed till December 16th! Link added for reference:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html

Article:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...ony-deposition

Did we know Mallory's depo was tomorrow?  I knew that D. Casey's was moved, but I forgot or never knew about Mallory's.  Hmmm....How quickly will we be able to see/read this one?
I think this will be very interesting.  I've never really seen her, (except on the cruise ship, I'm sorry to say.)

She was at the memorial service, draped and petting on Lee, who was totally ignoring her. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 11, 2009, 09:56:08 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.

Jinks!!! I guess we were looking it up at the same time.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Wow!! hi Fanny what are you doing up so late  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 10:11:40 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.

Jinks!!! I guess we were looking it up at the same time.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Wow!! hi Fanny what are you doing up so late  ::HelloKitty::

Hi Miki! I have a lot on my mind tonight. ::HelloKitty::

I found out a lethal dose is 4 tablespoons of chloroform for an adult, if my math is correct.
For a child it would be much less.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wonder what size bottle that was that was found with the needle inside. I don't remember and I'm too tired to look back. If it was a liter bottle, it could make several tablespoons of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 10:13:47 PM
I hope no one around me drops dead of chloroform poisoning, because it's all right here on my hard drive.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: flutterby42 on November 11, 2009, 10:17:41 PM
Organ harvesting?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
Now that I am really studying the process, I can see KC making it. Especially if she had some advice by phone or otherwise. I am thinking back to a couple of phone calls to strange people we have never been able to figure out exactly who they were and where they fit in.

I still cannot get out of my mind a person who used to post on anther forum who was not really psychic but had some strange dreams early on in the case. They were very vivid and repetitive for her. She always insisted that the 14th was when Caylee was murdered or something was put in motion at that time. She stayed on the forum for quite a while and was emphatic that it was the 14th that was important. She finally left after other posters poo-pooed her idea, because by that time the Fathers Day video had come out.

I don't think the chloroform was very old, because of the kind of bottle it was in, and the short shelf life. But I think it was made in advance. Maybe it was made on the 14th of June.  :smt102 JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 10:28:40 PM
Organ harvesting?

Mine?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 11, 2009, 10:30:39 PM
Of course, some chemist type person could come by and shoot my theory and math to smitherines.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 11, 2009, 10:59:18 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.

Jinks!!! I guess we were looking it up at the same time.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Wow!! hi Fanny what are you doing up so late  ::HelloKitty::

Hi Miki! I have a lot on my mind tonight. ::HelloKitty::

I found out a lethal dose is 4 tablespoons of chloroform for an adult, if my math is correct.
For a child it would be much less.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wonder what size bottle that was that was found with the needle inside. I don't remember and I'm too tired to look back. If it was a liter bottle, it could make several tablespoons of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Fanny, I remember reading in some of my pediatric literature that 2 teaspoons orally would be a lethal dose for a child that weighs 35 pounds. Not much at all. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 11, 2009, 11:04:17 PM
Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.

Hello, everyone!  Good question, No rose- I never thought about that.  Good answer too, darla!  Makes sense to me.  IMO, Casey killed Caylee at the house (b/c the duct tape, Winnie the Pooh blanket, bags, sticker, rug, etc, were all there).  In view of that, she couldn't afford for Cindy to find a needle cap somewhere or in one of the trash cans...Cindy would defininely notice that and raise questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 11, 2009, 11:29:02 PM
Sunny they were discussing that chloroform amount on WS, and the agreement seemed to be there wasn't enough in the bottle. I was so lost with all the chemist talk, so I stopped reading. But now I see this also, so maybe that is true.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I am no means an expert, and I don;t understand alot of this - BUT did the chemist take into consideration that the chloroform was found in a CLEAR bottle - and according to what we have read on chloroform, it breaks down with UV lighting.  We don;t know the original concentration of chloroform in the bottle - it has been out in the elements and IMO has broken down...

Kimmy- excellent thinking!  Not too mention the rate of continual condensation and evaporation, occurring in a closed environment for nearly 6 months.  We also have to factor in that a Gatorade bottle is not a sealed container, particularly when submerged in a flooded environment (allowing leakage into/out of the container).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 11, 2009, 11:35:41 PM
FWIW, Nurses are taught to never recap a needle but rather dispose of it in a sharps container, bottle with a cap,coffee can,etc. This is to prevent needle sticks as most occur while recapping. This is a huge issue in hospitals to prevent spread of disease such as hepatitis,hiv, and other illnesses spread by contact with blood. This has been common practice in hospitals and clinics since the early '80s and the arrival of HIV, AIDS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 11, 2009, 11:44:26 PM
There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.

Hat tip, tupelohoneyBlumonkey or another of our resident nurses-what kind of needle would be used for Gentamicin?  Where I live, pharmacies provide extra medicine taking equipment to parents of small children.  I guess they reason medicine cups and syringes may get lost/destroyed in the hand-to-hand combat that sometimes ensues.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 12, 2009, 12:22:09 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ISpy on November 12, 2009, 12:25:04 AM
Well, time to head out.  Going to check a few more things before I call it quits for the night.  Have a good night and take good care!  God bless you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 12, 2009, 02:13:45 AM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello again monkeys,,,,I have another question!!!..For everyone that has looked up "How to make Chloroform" did anyone happen to notice how much is made from one application? I know I could go look it up but I am just wondering if someone else happen to have picked up on that little tidbit!!.. ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Thank you in advance.... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



It depends but as little as one cup of bleach and a few ml of acetone, the bleach is chilled in the freezer until slushy then the acetone is added and possibly a little more ice to cool if required. The process takes about 45 mins or until it turns milky and separates.

Jinks!!! I guess we were looking it up at the same time.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Wow!! hi Fanny what are you doing up so late  ::HelloKitty::

Hi Miki! I have a lot on my mind tonight. ::HelloKitty::

I found out a lethal dose is 4 tablespoons of chloroform for an adult, if my math is correct.
For a child it would be much less.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wonder what size bottle that was that was found with the needle inside. I don't remember and I'm too tired to look back. If it was a liter bottle, it could make several tablespoons of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Fell asleep at the computer, I have keyboard face  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I don't think the chloroform was to kill merely to render unconscious, after which the duct tape could be applied without a struggle. In which case I guess it would be premeditated. After all who would want to try and duct tape a wriggling screaming baby  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 06:20:41 AM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/74.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Buckeye on November 12, 2009, 06:24:23 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA


I don't usually post on this thread.  I have not seen the prescription.  Gentamicin eyedrops is standard treatment for conjunctivitis (pink eye).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 06:25:55 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-Report-says-chloroform-found-in-bottle-near-Caylee-Anthony-is-miniscule
Casey Anthony case: Report says chloroform found in sports bottle near Caylee Anthony is miniscule
November 11, 4:18 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
On Friday, more documents were released in the case against accused murderer, Casey Anthony. Among them was a report that indicated traces of chloroform were found inside a sports drink and a plastic syringe that were found near Caylee Anthony's remains.

Casey, 23, is charged with the first-degree murder of Caylee, 2.
To see a slideshow of photos of the syringe, Gatorade bottle, and other evidence, click here.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Slideshow-New-photo-evidence-released-in-Casey-Anthony-case-including-syringe-baby-doll
Dr. Michael Rickenbach with the FBI determined that the syringe contained testosterone, ethanol, chloroform, and water.

According to Hal Boedeker with the Orlando Sentinel, news station WKMG is now reporting that the amount of chloroform found is miniscule and may not be the damning evidence needed to convict Casey of her daughter’s murder.

WKMG reporter Tony Pipitone said the station used an independent chemist to confirm that the concentration of chloroform found in the bottle was about 12 parts per billion. This is minor when compared to the 80 parts per billion of chloroform that can be found in tap water.

The report indicates that more testosterone than chloroform was found.
To read the entomology report, click here.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-the-forensic-entomology-report
Casey’s murder trial is slated to begin June 2010.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 06:28:17 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/111109-anthony-deposition
(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/05/28/90casey_20090528123935_320_240.JPG)
Casey Anthony during a motion hearing May 28, 2009.

Depositions in Anthony case Thursday

Updated: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST

More depositions are scheduled to take place Thursday in the case against Casey Anthony.

The girlfriend of her brother Lee, Mallory Parker, and a private investigators will be deposed Thursday.

Mallory Parker will give her deposition Thursday morning and when she is done Dominic Casey will be deposed. He is the private investigators who worked for George and Cindy Anthony.
Caasey Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie , claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 06:46:37 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone
POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:59 pm EST November 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
The chemical was found in a liquid contained in a Cool Blue Gatorade bottle and syringe, which were inside a World of Disney bag that lay just six inches from the 2-year-old’s skull, when it was found in December.

The girl’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with murder and aggravated child abuse in connection with the death, which the medical examiner ruled a homicide, though the cause of death is undetermined.
The traces of chloroform in the liquid received much media attention last week, when its presence was noted in more than 2,000 pages of documents released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office.

HLN cable news personality Nancy Grace stated on her show the syringe was “loaded” with chloroform, and legal analysts have called the chloroform discovery a “smoking gun” or otherwise damaging to the defense.

But a closer look the FBI laboratory test results on the liquid reveals the level of chloroform in the liquid constitutes only about 12 parts per billion. By comparison, drinking water can contain up to 80 parts per billion of chloroform and its chemical cousins and still pass the Environmental Protection Agency standards for chlorinated drinking water.

Neither prosecutors nor defense attorneys would comment on the findings, but Local 6 took them to an independent chemist who said the presence of chloroform at that level was not significant.

The FBI chemist who did the tests did not even mention chloroform in his final report, turned over to investigators in July 2009 – two months after he started testing the substance.

In his report, Michael Rickenbach stated the “whitish/murky liquid … could be from a type of cleaning product. Additionally, a mixture of testosterone compounds” was identified in both the bottle and syringe.

That would suggest the syringe and bottle may be connected to someone injecting testosterone – a steroid often used by body builders and others seeking to increase muscle mass.

DNA tests on the bottle and syringe failed to produce any results.
Without any evidence tying Casey Anthony to the steroid mixture, Gatorade bottle or syringe, the contents of the World of Disney bag and its proximity to Caylee may be of no evidentiary value to either the state or the defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 12, 2009, 07:13:28 AM
Depositions in Anthony case Thursday

Updated: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST

More depositions are scheduled to take place Thursday in the case against Casey Anthony.

The girlfriend of her brother Lee, Mallory Parker, and a private investigators will be deposed Thursday.

Mallory Parker will give her deposition Thursday morning and when she is done Dominic Casey will be deposed. He is the private investigators who worked for George and Cindy Anthony.
Caasey Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie , claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 08:33:54 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/111209-casey-anthony-case
New depositions in Casey Anthony case

Updated: Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 8:18 AM EST
Published : Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 7:18 AM EST

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against Casey Anthony is heating back up. Two depositions are being held today Thursday, November 12th.

Lawyers will talk to Mallory Parker. She's the girlfriend of Casey’s brother Lee Anthony. Then, they'll question Dominic Casey. He is a private investigator who worked for Casey Anthony’s parents George and Cindy.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 08:39:44 AM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 09:15:42 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-PI-Dominic-Casey-to-be-deposed-in-December
Casey Anthony case: PI Dominic Casey to be deposed by prosecution in December
November 11, 2:00 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
The private investigator hired by George and Cindy Anthony in the summer of 2008 to help them search for their missing granddaughter, Caylee Anthony, will be deposed by prosecutors regarding the Casey Anthony case on Dec. 16.

Casey is the Anthony’s daughter, and is charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

According to Hal Boedeker of the Orlando Sentinel, the controversial PI was originally scheduled to be deposed on Thursday.
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID1168/images/Casey_and_Dominic_Casey%281%29.jpg)
Casey Anthony, left, walks with private investigator, Dominic Casey.

In January, WFTV obtained video of Mr. Casey aggressively searching the site where Caylee's remains were ultimately found. The video was taken by his colleague, PI Jim Hoover, in mid-November 2008—less than a month before the toddler’s remains were discovered by Roy Kronk. Mr. Casey claimed to be talking on his cell phone to a psychic while the video was being shot.

To see the video, click here.

The video was deemed to be important, because many believe it proves Mr. Casey had inside information about the whereabouts of Caylee prior to her being found in December.

Casey’s murder trial is scheduled to begin in June 2010.

Really OT here, but does that Dom Casey have long feet, or what! ?

Might explain why mushroom head was sooo attracted to him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 09:19:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=600#comments

The Crystal Light bottle

November 11th, 2009

Also, in the comments for this article, Valhall states that she doesn't think Cindy cleaned the trunk, with solvents anyway.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 09:25:02 AM
There was a prescription for Caylee for Gentamicin, which is an injectable antibiotic. So that places syringes in the Anthony home.

Hat tip, tupelohoneyBlumonkey or another of our resident nurses-what kind of needle would be used for Gentamicin?  Where I live, pharmacies provide extra medicine taking equipment to parents of small children.  I guess they reason medicine cups and syringes may get lost/destroyed in the hand-to-hand combat that sometimes ensues.   ::MonkeyRoll::
I really am leaning more towards the Gentamycin being drops used for pink eye. We never heard of Caylee being ill and if the Gentamycin was used for an infection, it would have been because another antibiotic didn't do the trick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 12, 2009, 09:29:26 AM
Good morning, thank-you for the updates  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kimmy53 on November 12, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Just thinking... I think KC murdered Caylee and that she used chloroform.  She most likely made it up in the Gatorade bottle and used the syringe to extract the chlorform out of the bottle and into Caylee.  I believe there is so little chloroform in the bottle and the syringe because: first, there would be little chlorform to begin with and most of it would have been used on Caylee; second, chlorform evaporates extremely quickly so any residual would mostly evaporate; third, that it's extremely unlucky for KC that any chlorform at all was detectable after all those months.

I believe chloroform in the car, in the carpet in the car, on Caylee's doll, in the bottle, in the syringe are all a trail. KC's boyfriend's computer with the word chloroform on it was probably where KC first got the interest/idea; then...searches on the computer for chloroform, neck breaking and how to kill with household products. We have a trail of chlorform. It cannot be ignored.

KC may be lazy, but when motivated to get rid of Caylee, she was very active.

I believe she plotted for months (probably from February on).  She came up with a very elaborate scheme; however, it didn't work well because she's not that bright.  She made it too elaborate....not simple.

I believe she stole a used needle (to possible implicate others...probably thought that was a smart idea).  KC, being the daughter of a nurse would know to put the cap back on the needle; but I believe she made sure she had all the little parts accounted for: cap on needle, needle in bag, bag in bottle, bottle in Disney bag (forethought of blaming the nanny). 

I think Caylee ended up down the street and around the corner because with the hot weather, Caylee became a bigger problem more quickly than KC thought and the smell and liquid had to be gotten rid of...so KC drove down the street and around the corner and tossed Caylee out like she was trash.  Also, KC tossed anything else she thought would be a problem; i.e., bag with bottle/needle.

Most people would NOT toss out the murder evidence with the body; however, we're talking KC here.  I think KC got really irritated/upset at the continuing problem Caylee was (even after death) and in a fury just tossed everything out.


I agree with you Puzzler.  I believe Casey did make plans, but didn't think of everything.  Of course she didn't report Caylee missing, they would have searched closeby and found her and evidence of how she died.  Casey thought she was home free, the more time that passed. 

I truly believe that if Cindy hadn't made those 911 calls, Casey would have taken off - perhaps to California, and made up more lies about Caylee, and no one would have been the wiser...she would have gotten away with it.

I think you are spot on about the disposal.  Sickening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: melisb on November 12, 2009, 10:01:32 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA

Don't remember a script for this.  Unpopular answer here...gent is commonly used in home health IV visits and if a patient had some left over I've seen some nurses take the leftovers home with them when needed for a sick fam member.  Don't shoot me it's true.  Sometimes on or two shots of gent will cure something when a whole script of regular antib's won't.  I've worked home health since 1993 and yes Gentiva.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 10:06:30 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-casey-anthony-brother-girlfriend-20091112,0,6336375.story
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother deposed by state

By Sarah Lundy, SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

9:49 a.m. EST, November 12, 2009
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother is being questioned by prosecutors this morning at the State Attorney's Office.

Mallory Parker's deposition was scheduled to begin at 9 a.m.

She is dating Lee Anthony, who has already been questioned by prosecutors.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Remains of the 2-year-old were found in woods in December — five months after she was reported missing.

Casey Anthony's trial may begin next summer. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=600#comments

The Crystal Light bottle

November 11th, 2009

Also, in the comments for this article, Valhall states that she doesn't think Cindy cleaned the trunk, with solvents anyway.

 

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SloSthrnStyle on November 12, 2009, 10:18:19 AM
G'Morning Monkeys,

I have some thoughts on the syringe, and needles, and how Casey could have gotten ahold of them.

I worked in an ER for several years on the Critical Care side, and we had a clinic side.
I was a Unit Secretary. One of my jobs late at night was to restock carts that we had throughout both sides with IV solutions, different guages of needles and yes we had plastic tubes that needles were put on to exract blood from patients and then hook IV's up too. Then able to plunge the blood into different tubes for the lab.  Scarey thought, she could have very easily got the supplies this way.  We would roll the carts into patients rooms when needed. 

Casey had access to this in many ways, from the nursing home, to a clinic or er, to her mom having supplies, maybe even in her car.

Something else that has stuck with me since the beginning, when all the spontaneous utterances were coming out...the timeline interviews....Dad talked about finding Casey at the house, saying she was getting clothes and rushed out  ( could be when the gas cans issue came up) and then Lee said in his interview..thats the Day that dad caught Casey in the house, didnt even know she was there....My thinking is that is the day that Casey put Caylee in the woods. I dont have the documents, I just remember reading that when the timeline was first being established with everyone and they all spoke up at that time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 12, 2009, 10:26:52 AM
I hope no one around me drops dead of chloroform poisoning, because it's all right here on my hard drive.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::    We'll stand by you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 10:37:15 AM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 11:00:31 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone
POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:59 pm EST November 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
The chemical was found in a liquid contained in a Cool Blue Gatorade bottle and syringe, which were inside a World of Disney bag that lay just six inches from the 2-year-old’s skull, when it was found in December.

The girl’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with murder and aggravated child abuse in connection with the death, which the medical examiner ruled a homicide, though the cause of death is undetermined.
The traces of chloroform in the liquid received much media attention last week, when its presence was noted in more than 2,000 pages of documents released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office.

HLN cable news personality Nancy Grace stated on her show the syringe was “loaded” with chloroform, and legal analysts have called the chloroform discovery a “smoking gun” or otherwise damaging to the defense.

But a closer look the FBI laboratory test results on the liquid reveals the level of chloroform in the liquid constitutes only about 12 parts per billion. By comparison, drinking water can contain up to 80 parts per billion of chloroform and its chemical cousins and still pass the Environmental Protection Agency standards for chlorinated drinking water.

Neither prosecutors nor defense attorneys would comment on the findings, but Local 6 took them to an independent chemist who said the presence of chloroform at that level was not significant.

The FBI chemist who did the tests did not even mention chloroform in his final report, turned over to investigators in July 2009 – two months after he started testing the substance.

In his report, Michael Rickenbach stated the “whitish/murky liquid … could be from a type of cleaning product. Additionally, a mixture of testosterone compounds” was identified in both the bottle and syringe.

That would suggest the syringe and bottle may be connected to someone injecting testosterone – a steroid often used by body builders and others seeking to increase muscle mass.

DNA tests on the bottle and syringe failed to produce any results.
Without any evidence tying Casey Anthony to the steroid mixture, Gatorade bottle or syringe, the contents of the World of Disney bag and its proximity to Caylee may be of no evidentiary value to either the state or the defense.

I think the amount of Chloroform in the syringe and the bottle is miniscule is because KC USED every bit of it on Caylee.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 11:03:23 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-casey-anthony-brother-girlfriend-20091112,0,6336375.story
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother deposed by state

By Sarah Lundy, SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

9:49 a.m. EST, November 12, 2009
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother is being questioned by prosecutors this morning at the State Attorney's Office.

Mallory Parker's deposition was scheduled to begin at 9 a.m.

She is dating Lee Anthony, who has already been questioned by prosecutors.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Remains of the 2-year-old were found in woods in December — five months after she was reported missing.

Casey Anthony's trial may begin next summer. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

I wonder if we are going to hear a bunch of silly giggling and inappropriate laughter in this one?? ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21593666/detail.html
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend To Be Deposed Under Oath

Posted: 9:00 am EST November 12, 2009Updated: 10:50 am EST November 12, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- State prosecutors in the case against Casey Anthony are scheduled to depose the girlfriend of Casey’s brother Lee Anthony.

Prosecutors will question Mallory Park under oath Thursday morning. She has remained close with the entire Anthony family throughout the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 11:05:09 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-casey-anthony-brother-girlfriend-20091112,0,6336375.story
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother deposed by state

By Sarah Lundy, SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

9:49 a.m. EST, November 12, 2009
The girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother is being questioned by prosecutors this morning at the State Attorney's Office.

Mallory Parker's deposition was scheduled to begin at 9 a.m.

She is dating Lee Anthony, who has already been questioned by prosecutors.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Remains of the 2-year-old were found in woods in December — five months after she was reported missing.

Casey Anthony's trial may begin next summer. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

I wonder if we are going to hear a bunch of silly giggling and inappropriate laughter in this one?? ::MonkeyDevil2::

I hope not.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 12, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
20 years working as a nurse in the operating room, we used Gentamicin eye drops on many pediatric patients. Also used the same on both my sons as small children with Pink Eye. Even as an RN, no way would the pediatrician send home Injectable Gentamicin for a child, especially a 2 year old.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 11:08:39 AM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 11:14:54 AM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can just picture her showing up at the depo wearing a halter top, short skanky dress blue eye shadow, chipped finger nail polish and a diamond nose ring.  Oh, and smelling of Old Milwaukee beer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 11:31:56 AM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can just picture her showing up at the depo wearing a halter top, short skanky dress blue eye shadow, chipped finger nail polish and a diamond nose ring.  Oh, and smelling of Old Milwaukee beer.

Do you suppose Lee and Malibu share blue eye shadow?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 12, 2009, 11:38:28 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA


I don't usually post on this thread.  I have not seen the prescription.  Gentamicin eyedrops is standard treatment for conjunctivitis (pink eye).
My daughter had cystic fibrosis and would often go into the hospital where she was put on a variety of antibiotics.  Gentamicin was one that put into her i.v.  Another way she got gentamicin was through her nebulizer..she inhaled it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: bikerbev on November 12, 2009, 11:40:47 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-Report-says-chloroform-found-in-bottle-near-Caylee-Anthony-is-miniscule
Casey Anthony case: Report says chloroform found in sports bottle near Caylee Anthony is miniscule
November 11, 4:18 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
On Friday, more documents were released in the case against accused murderer, Casey Anthony. Among them was a report that indicated traces of chloroform were found inside a sports drink and a plastic syringe that were found near Caylee Anthony's remains.

Casey, 23, is charged with the first-degree murder of Caylee, 2.
To see a slideshow of photos of the syringe, Gatorade bottle, and other evidence, click here.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Slideshow-New-photo-evidence-released-in-Casey-Anthony-case-including-syringe-baby-doll
Dr. Michael Rickenbach with the FBI determined that the syringe contained testosterone, ethanol, chloroform, and water.

According to Hal Boedeker with the Orlando Sentinel, news station WKMG is now reporting that the amount of chloroform found is miniscule and may not be the damning evidence needed to convict Casey of her daughter’s murder.

WKMG reporter Tony Pipitone said the station used an independent chemist to confirm that the concentration of chloroform found in the bottle was about 12 parts per billion. This is minor when compared to the 80 parts per billion of chloroform that can be found in tap water.

The report indicates that more testosterone than chloroform was found.
To read the entomology report, click here.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-the-forensic-entomology-report
Casey’s murder trial is slated to begin June 2010.
Who cares if it's miniscule???  It's there:  ethanol is one ingredient for homemade choloform.  Plus, it's in the syringe...I just hope there are fingerprints on the syringe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 11:48:49 AM
I finished reading Diana Fanning's book and found it interesting.  It basically consists of documents and interviews.  I found it extremely accurate except for one small thing.  She said that on the day before George's so-called suicide attempt (Although she bought that it was a real attempt, I didn't.) Cindy asked him to choose jewelry for Caylee to wear at her cremation.  Of course we know that it was jewelry for that bunch to wear with ashes of Caylee after she was cremated.

She did praise Tim Miller.  She said he was an internationally renowned searcher with a stellar reputation.  She said he had been asked to go to Indonesia to try to recover tsunami victimes.  I personally had never heart the name of Tim Miller until I joined Monkeys, but I now know that he is well known the world over for his work in recovering the missing, not only from this forum but now from her book.

Other than that, there wasn't much we didn't know.  Maybe a few tidbits from interviews that she had apparently conducted, but all-in-all well worth reading. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 12, 2009, 11:50:03 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA

Don't remember a script for this.  Unpopular answer here...gent is commonly used in home health IV visits and if a patient had some left over I've seen some nurses take the leftovers home with them when needed for a sick fam member.  Don't shoot me it's true.  Sometimes on or two shots of gent will cure something when a whole script of regular antib's won't.  I've worked home health since 1993 and yes Gentiva.
I do hope you did the moral and ethical thing and reported them to local LE and the state board of nursing. This is an illegal act that you described. Practicing medicine without a license, diversion of a prescription medication and theft is nothing to be taken lightly. The public needs to be protected from these individuals who shed a dark shadow over an otherwise noble profession.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 11:51:48 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/double-jeopardy/#comment-94234

Double Jeopardy

November 12, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can just picture her showing up at the depo wearing a halter top, short skanky dress blue eye shadow, chipped finger nail polish and a diamond nose ring.  Oh, and smelling of Old Milwaukee beer.

I don't remember ever seeing Mallory standing up.  I saw the picture from the cruise and that girl shouldn't wear a two-piece.  There's too much to hang over.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:01:27 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/double-jeopardy/#comment-94234

Double Jeopardy

November 12, 2009

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
Posted by Trimm on JSM thread...

I hope this didn't interfere witht the deposition...
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/12/courthouse_briefly_locked_down.html
 Courthouse Briefly Locked Down
Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:46:40 AM
ORLANDO -- The Orange County Courthouse in downtown Orlando was on lockdown for 30 minutes Thursday morning.

Workers and visitors were not permitted to enter the building from around 8:30 a.m. Thursday, until the lockdown was lifted around 9 a.m.

Deputies have not released details on the lockdown, but an unconfirmed report said someone entered the building with a weapon.

The Orange County Sheriff’s Office has not released an official incident report, but deputies said they were working on releasing more details on what exactly happened to cause the courthouse to shut down for a half-hour.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mushroom head must have accompanied malibu and forgot to take her hammer out of her purse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 12, 2009, 12:08:14 PM
20 years working as a nurse in the operating room, we used Gentamicin eye drops on many pediatric patients. Also used the same on both my sons as small children with Pink Eye. Even as an RN, no way would the pediatrician send home Injectable Gentamicin for a child, especially a 2 year old.
Very true. This was most likely used for pink eye and would not have been prescribed for IM use on a child at home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
Prosecutors Question Lee Anthony's Girlfriend
Parker Latest Deposition Taken In Casey Anthony Case
POSTED: 11:02 am EST November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 11:11 am EST November 12, 2009
<snipped>
Prosecutors are scheduled to question the girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother on Thursday.

The deposition, which is closed to the public, was scheduled to start at 9 a.m. in the State Attorney's Office in Orlando.
http://www.wesh.com/news/21594887/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 12:14:58 PM
Thanks CC.   ::MonkeyBike::

You're welcome lake dweller.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:32:16 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/12/courthouse_briefly_locked_down.html
 Courthouse Locked Down After Report Of Weapon
Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:16:12 PM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The Orange County Courthouse in downtown Orlando was on lockdown for 30 minutes Thursday morning after a report of a man with a gun.

Workers and visitors were not permitted to enter the building from around 8:30 a.m. Thursday, until the lockdown was lifted around 9 a.m.

Officials told News 13 a man was going to court for traffic issues, when a gun was found in his bag, mixed in with computer cables as it went through the courthouse’s X-ray machine.

Orange County sheriff’s officials said there were also multiple rounds in the bag, but none were in the gun’s chamber.

The man was arrested immediately, and authorities placed the courthouse on lockdown for a half-hour to investigate.
Officials said the man told them he was a security guard for a local company, and he had completely forgotten that he left the gun in his bag.

News 13 saw two deputies escort a man in khaki-colored pants, a green shirt and glasses out of the courthouse in handcuffs Thursday morning.

Sheriff Jerry Demings was expected to talk about the incident at the courthouse sometime Thursday afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/double-jeopardy/#comment-94234

Double Jeopardy

November 12, 2009

Thank You TUPELO. If KC hadn't done all that illegal stuff it would be a mute point anyway.  I hope she gets slammed for it all.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-prosecutors-depose-lees-girlfriend.html
Casey Anthony: Prosecutors depose Lee's girlfriend
posted by halboedeker on Nov 12, 2009 12:29:07 PM
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The latest in the Casey Anthony case:

Mallory Parker, girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was questioned by prosecutors this morning. Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, also questioned Parker. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

"Mallory Parker has been something of a figure on the sidelines," WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing said. "Certainly, she could give prosecutors insight as to the family dynamics inside the Anthony household, especially before Caylee Anthony disappeared back in June of last year."

Kealing said the deposition concluded this morning.

WKMG-Channel 6 anchor Erick Weber said the prosecutors spent several hours questioning Parker. "Detectives have never formally interviewed Parker, so it's unclear exactly what types of questions prosecutors hoped she would answer," Weber added.

Next week: Former meter reader Roy Kronk will be deposed, the stations reported. Kronk found Caylee's remains in December.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 12:43:50 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/12/courthouse_briefly_locked_down.html
 Courthouse Locked Down After Report Of Weapon
Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:16:12 PM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The Orange County Courthouse in downtown Orlando was on lockdown for 30 minutes Thursday morning after a report of a man with a gun.

Workers and visitors were not permitted to enter the building from around 8:30 a.m. Thursday, until the lockdown was lifted around 9 a.m.

Officials told News 13 a man was going to court for traffic issues, when a gun was found in his bag, mixed in with computer cables as it went through the courthouse’s X-ray machine.

Orange County sheriff’s officials said there were also multiple rounds in the bag, but none were in the gun’s chamber.

The man was arrested immediately, and authorities placed the courthouse on lockdown for a half-hour to investigate.
Officials said the man told them he was a security guard for a local company, and he had completely forgotten that he left the gun in his bag.

News 13 saw two deputies escort a man in khaki-colored pants, a green shirt and glasses out of the courthouse in handcuffs Thursday morning.

Sheriff Jerry Demings was expected to talk about the incident at the courthouse sometime Thursday afternoon.

Security guard??? ::MonkeyEek:: Uh oh. Does anyone know if Georgie has gone back to work.
Oh, never mind! That was a stupid question. Of course he hasn't gone back to work. He doesn't  need to.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:54:51 PM
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend Deposed
POSTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 12:25 pm EST November 12, 2009
<snipped>
Parker has been dating Lee Anthony since before Caylee's disappearance, and she has been at the Anthony family home during several events that occurred there.

Detectives never formally interviewed Parker.

Casey Anthony's defense team next week will depose Roy Kronk.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21595540/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 12:56:20 PM
Lee Anthony's girlfriend deposed.
http://www.wesh.com/video/21595654/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 01:01:01 PM
Casey Anthony: Prosecutors depose Lee's girlfriend
posted by halboedeker on Nov 12, 2009 12:29:07 PM
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The latest in the Casey Anthony case:

Mallory Parker, girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was questioned by prosecutors this morning. Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, also questioned Parker. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

"Mallory Parker has been something of a figure on the sidelines," WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing said. "Certainly, she could give prosecutors insight as to the family dynamics inside the Anthony household, especially before Caylee Anthony disappeared back in June of last year."

Kealing said the deposition concluded this morning.

WKMG-Channel 6 anchor Erick Weber said the prosecutors spent several hours questioning Parker. "Detectives have never formally interviewed Parker, so it's unclear exactly what types of questions prosecutors hoped she would answer," Weber added.

Next week: Former meter reader Roy Kronk will be deposed, the stations reported. Kronk found Caylee's remains in December.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-prosecutors-depose-lees-girlfriend.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 12, 2009, 01:01:57 PM
Thanks Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 01:04:15 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/12/courthouse_briefly_locked_down.html
 Courthouse Locked Down After Report Of Weapon
Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:16:12 PM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The Orange County Courthouse in downtown Orlando was on lockdown for 30 minutes Thursday morning after a report of a man with a gun.

Workers and visitors were not permitted to enter the building from around 8:30 a.m. Thursday, until the lockdown was lifted around 9 a.m.

Officials told News 13 a man was going to court for traffic issues, when a gun was found in his bag, mixed in with computer cables as it went through the courthouse’s X-ray machine.

Orange County sheriff’s officials said there were also multiple rounds in the bag, but none were in the gun’s chamber.

The man was arrested immediately, and authorities placed the courthouse on lockdown for a half-hour to investigate.
Officials said the man told them he was a security guard for a local company, and he had completely forgotten that he left the gun in his bag.

News 13 saw two deputies escort a man in khaki-colored pants, a green shirt and glasses out of the courthouse in handcuffs Thursday morning.

Sheriff Jerry Demings was expected to talk about the incident at the courthouse sometime Thursday afternoon.

Security guard??? ::MonkeyEek:: Uh oh. Does anyone know if Georgie has gone back to work.
Oh, never mind! That was a stupid question. Of course he hasn't gone back to work. He doesn't  need to.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

George could never go back to such menial work. He is a celebrity. His bronze tan would fade. He is needed to hold cincin's hand and look dutiful. Having to mix it up with the common folk is beneath him now ( it really always was but until his daughter murdered his grandchild he couldn't make it work). He prolly spends a lot of time checking the puter for offers for a reality show.
                                         ::MonkeyConfused::
                                       


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 12, 2009, 01:06:40 PM
Meh!!! What a pointless exercise this is, they already spent the cruise getting their story straight any depo is obviously tainted by CA meddling instructions.


Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:20:03 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/74.gif)

Good Morning...eerrrrr afternoon, trim and all Monks old and new.  Going to read on and see if there is anything new!! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:21:04 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/111109-anthony-deposition
(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/05/28/90casey_20090528123935_320_240.JPG)
Casey Anthony during a motion hearing May 28, 2009.

Depositions in Anthony case Thursday

Updated: Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST
Published : Wednesday, 11 Nov 2009, 5:07 PM EST

More depositions are scheduled to take place Thursday in the case against Casey Anthony.

The girlfriend of her brother Lee, Mallory Parker, and a private investigators will be deposed Thursday.

Mallory Parker will give her deposition Thursday morning and when she is done Dominic Casey will be deposed. He is the private investigators who worked for George and Cindy Anthony.
Caasey Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie , claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.

I thought DC's depo was moved to December???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

I thought it was rescheduled?  was it in fact canceled??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:23:26 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=600#comments

The Crystal Light bottle

November 11th, 2009

Also, in the comments for this article, Valhall states that she doesn't think Cindy cleaned the trunk, with solvents anyway.

 

Thanks tupelo...I think she is wrong in this one....I do think cindy cleaned the trunk...perhaps not with solvents...but with something...but that is JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 01:23:39 PM
Meh!!! What a pointless exercise this is, they already spent the cruise getting their story straight any depo is obviously tainted by CA meddling instructions.


Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::


Hi Miki~  i agree. Maybe Lee whispered some pertinent tidbit but she seems pretty well indoctrinated into the A way, combine that with the whole clan's truth doesn't count policy and so I'd be shocked if anything of value comes from her depo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 01:24:55 PM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

I thought it was rescheduled?  was it in fact canceled??

I think just rescheduled to Dec. 16th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:29:19 PM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know my memory is not as good as yours Fanny....so please explain the afternoon drinking? I don't recall hearing/reading anything about it.

I try to keep in mind one thing about Mallory.....we sometimes can't help who we fall in love with......he might be good as gold to her....I can see her standing by him......However, I can't EXPLAIN what she might see in him..... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:30:28 PM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I can just picture her showing up at the depo wearing a halter top, short skanky dress blue eye shadow, chipped finger nail polish and a diamond nose ring.  Oh, and smelling of Old Milwaukee beer.

Yep I can picture you picturing that scene  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
I finished reading Diana Fanning's book and found it interesting.  It basically consists of documents and interviews.  I found it extremely accurate except for one small thing.  She said that on the day before George's so-called suicide attempt (Although she bought that it was a real attempt, I didn't.) Cindy asked him to choose jewelry for Caylee to wear at her cremation.  Of course we know that it was jewelry for that bunch to wear with ashes of Caylee after she was cremated.

She did praise Tim Miller.  She said he was an internationally renowned searcher with a stellar reputation.  She said he had been asked to go to Indonesia to try to recover tsunami victimes.  I personally had never heart the name of Tim Miller until I joined Monkeys, but I now know that he is well known the world over for his work in recovering the missing, not only from this forum but now from her book.

Other than that, there wasn't much we didn't know.  Maybe a few tidbits from interviews that she had apparently conducted, but all-in-all well worth reading. 

thanks baby....I want to get the book this weekend...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 01:32:18 PM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

I thought it was rescheduled?  was it in fact canceled??

I think just rescheduled to Dec. 16th.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&usg=AFQjCNEn_gT7PCLSXjgAGFRmo-tBHOij-Q&cid=1468633671&ei=1lP8StGRKZP48QSDo8KuAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwdbo.com%2Flocalnews%2F2009%2F11%2Flee-anthonys-girlfriend-depose.html

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_1_aa&usg=AFQjCNG2LcKEtjTYc7wnaBpt5skIpNI5Ig&cid=1468633671&ei=1lP8StGRKZP48QSDo8KuAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.examiner.com%2Fx-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-PI-Dominic-Casey-to-be-deposed-in-December


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/double-jeopardy/#comment-94234

Double Jeopardy

November 12, 2009

thanks tupelo.....well written and easy to understand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 01:40:51 PM
http://bbn.frn.com/fis/storydisplay.asp?site=wsky&storyID=10304
Updated: 11/12/2009 11:33:50 AM EST
by Rozzie Franco

ORLANDO, FLA. -- More depositions will be taking place in the Casey Anthony murder case today.

The girlfriend of Casey's brother Lee Anthony will be questioned by state prosecutors today.

Mallory Park, who will be under oath, had remained close to the Anthony family throughout the case. The deposition was set to begin at 9 a.m.

Orlando Criminal Defense Attorney Thomas Luka who is representing Lee Anthony said the state is merely covering all of their bases.

"In all likelyhood, the prosecution is probably going to ask whether Casey Anthony made any statements to Ms. Park about the disappearance of her daughter or the death of her daughter," Luka said.

Lee Anthony made a conflicting statement to the media saying he believes his sister is guilty and then later told reporters that he believes his sister is innocent.

However, if in fact he made any statements to his girlfriend that he believes Casey is guilty and Park agrees to that under oath, it can't be used in court, Luka said because it will be considered hearsay.

Casey remains in jail charged with her daughter's death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:41:40 PM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

I thought it was rescheduled?  was it in fact canceled??

I think just rescheduled to Dec. 16th.

thanks trim...that's what I thought but I thought I missed a nother change


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
Boo,I wonder why our articles are still saying D.Casey is to be deposed?His was canceled.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

I thought it was rescheduled?  was it in fact canceled??

I think just rescheduled to Dec. 16th.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&usg=AFQjCNEn_gT7PCLSXjgAGFRmo-tBHOij-Q&cid=1468633671&ei=1lP8StGRKZP48QSDo8KuAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwdbo.com%2Flocalnews%2F2009%2F11%2Flee-anthonys-girlfriend-depose.html

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_1_aa&usg=AFQjCNG2LcKEtjTYc7wnaBpt5skIpNI5Ig&cid=1468633671&ei=1lP8StGRKZP48QSDo8KuAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.examiner.com%2Fx-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Casey-Anthony-case-PI-Dominic-Casey-to-be-deposed-in-December

Thanks trim.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know my memory is not as good as yours Fanny....so please explain the afternoon drinking? I don't recall hearing/reading anything about it.

I try to keep in mind one thing about Mallory.....we sometimes can't help who we fall in love with......he might be good as gold to her....I can see her standing by him......However, I can't EXPLAIN what she might see in him..... ::MonkeyDevil2::

It was on her MySpace during the summer after she had graduated. I have not revisited her MySpace since. I was wondering out loud.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 12, 2009, 02:20:17 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::  Good afternoon Monkeys & TY for all the updates.

Cute parody:

http://john.bitbun.com/cinderella.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 12, 2009, 02:33:31 PM
Mallard  Mallory Duck has to know deep down that Casey Ho murdered Caylee...I would bet if truth were known, she probably can't stand Casey cause she is a spoiled brat.. and Mallory sees her for what she is....and especially after what Casey said about Lee wanting to have sex with her....ewwww...his own sister......You know the question had to have come up with Mallard and Lee if this incident did or did not occur....
Has anyone heard anything that Mallory has said about Casey at all?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 02:33:55 PM
::MonkeyBike::  Good afternoon Monkeys & TY for all the updates.

Cute parody:

http://john.bitbun.com/cinderella.html


Hi CECE. Very cute.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know my memory is not as good as yours Fanny....so please explain the afternoon drinking? I don't recall hearing/reading anything about it.

I try to keep in mind one thing about Mallory.....we sometimes can't help who we fall in love with......he might be good as gold to her....I can see her standing by him......However, I can't EXPLAIN what she might see in him..... ::MonkeyDevil2::

It was on her MySpace during the summer after she had graduated. I have not revisited her MySpace since. I was wondering out loud.

thanks Fanny.....do not visit myspace PLEASE!!! ::MonkeyDevil::  My neighbor and I had frozen margaritas many afternoons while enjoying the sun and good company!! ::MonkeyHaHa::  and no I am not gong to get a job either!! ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 02:38:07 PM
I wonder how long it will be before we see Mallory's depo??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 02:39:42 PM
Mallard  Mallory Duck has to know deep down that Casey Ho murdered Caylee...I would bet if truth were known, she probably can't stand Casey cause she is a spoiled brat.. and Mallory sees her for what she is....and especially after what Casey said about Lee wanting to have sex with her....ewwww...his own sister......You know the question had to have come up with Mallard and Lee if this incident did or did not occur....
Has anyone heard anything that Mallory has said about Casey at all?

cookie...I can't remember anything...but my memory isn't the best...and I looked in my notes and didn't find anythng...perhaps someone else has?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 12, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 12, 2009, 02:47:33 PM
Mallard  Mallory Duck has to know deep down that Casey Ho murdered Caylee...I would bet if truth were known, she probably can't stand Casey cause she is a spoiled brat.. and Mallory sees her for what she is....and especially after what Casey said about Lee wanting to have sex with her....ewwww...his own sister......You know the question had to have come up with Mallard and Lee if this incident did or did not occur....
Has anyone heard anything that Mallory has said about Casey at all?

cookie...I can't remember anything...but my memory isn't the best...and I looked in my notes and didn't find anythng...perhaps someone else has?

that's where I am at too Sunny..I can't remember ever hearing a word that she may have uttered....strange...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 12, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 02:54:42 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 02:55:49 PM
::MonkeyBike::  Good afternoon Monkeys & TY for all the updates.

Cute parody:

http://john.bitbun.com/cinderella.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 02:56:38 PM
Mallard  Mallory Duck has to know deep down that Casey Ho murdered Caylee...I would bet if truth were known, she probably can't stand Casey cause she is a spoiled brat.. and Mallory sees her for what she is....and especially after what Casey said about Lee wanting to have sex with her....ewwww...his own sister......You know the question had to have come up with Mallard and Lee if this incident did or did not occur....
Has anyone heard anything that Mallory has said about Casey at all?

cookie...I can't remember anything...but my memory isn't the best...and I looked in my notes and didn't find anythng...perhaps someone else has?

that's where I am at too Sunny..I can't remember ever hearing a word that she may have uttered....strange...

Me either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 02:57:15 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 03:06:11 PM
Has there ever been an interview or anything regarding malibu's thoughts/opinions on this case?  Would sure like to hear what she sounds like, but then mushroom head would probably need to pull the string to make her talk.

She did get to go on the cruise, and was included in the crab puff dinner at the Ritz. No telling how many "perks" she has received from Spindy to go along with the flow. I wonder if she ever got past drinking in the afternoon and thinking about getting a job....maybe?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know my memory is not as good as yours Fanny....so please explain the afternoon drinking? I don't recall hearing/reading anything about it.

I try to keep in mind one thing about Mallory.....we sometimes can't help who we fall in love with......he might be good as gold to her....I can see her standing by him......However, I can't EXPLAIN what she might see in him..... ::MonkeyDevil2::

It was on her MySpace during the summer after she had graduated. I have not revisited her MySpace since. I was wondering out loud.

thanks Fanny.....do not visit myspace PLEASE!!! ::MonkeyDevil::  My neighbor and I had frozen margaritas many afternoons while enjoying the sun and good company!! ::MonkeyHaHa::  and no I am not gong to get a job either!! ::MonkeyTease::

I have no problem with that.I imagine you and your friend are way past graduating from college.  ::MonkeyTease::  But as a new college graduate, I would think that getting a job and paying off her college loans, if nothing else, might be a higher priority. I can't remember her mood that day but it wasn't positive.

I'm not planning on getting a job either, and I have been know to imbibe in the afternoon myself. But thank the good Lord, I am not hooked up with the craziness of the Anthonys and Mr Knee Socks either.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

loca, as a parent I agree with you. But I had a boyfriend who my Mom totally disapproved of because of his family. She was sure he wouldn't amount to anything in life. She couldn't see in him what I did, because she was my Mom and wanting the BEST for me. I defied her all the way and we had some serious Mom/daughter arguments over him. I spent a lot of time grounded..... When he graduated cum laude she finally admitted she MIGHT have been wrong ::MonkeyWink::  When I became a Mom I finally understood her stance. About the last person on the totem pole remark....I am not going to hold that against him....I think she was probably the only person not giving him grief and stress and that MIGHT have been what he meant. Giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one. I THINK AND HOPE that he total the truth, whatever the truth is as he knows it, in his depo. I can't imagine being in that position....thank God!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 12, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.

I wondered who that woman was!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 03:17:28 PM


I know my memory is not as good as yours Fanny....so please explain the afternoon drinking? I don't recall hearing/reading anything about it.

I try to keep in mind one thing about Mallory.....we sometimes can't help who we fall in love with......he might be good as gold to her....I can see her standing by him......However, I can't EXPLAIN what she might see in him..... ::MonkeyDevil2::

It was on her MySpace during the summer after she had graduated. I have not revisited her MySpace since. I was wondering out loud.
[/quote]

thanks Fanny.....do not visit myspace PLEASE!!! ::MonkeyDevil::  My neighbor and I had frozen margaritas many afternoons while enjoying the sun and good company!! ::MonkeyHaHa::  and no I am not gong to get a job either!! ::MonkeyTease::
[/quote]

I have no problem with that.I imagine you and your friend are way past graduating from college.  ::MonkeyTease::  But as a new college graduate, I would think that getting a job and paying off her college loans, if nothing else, might be a higher priority. I can't remember her mood that day but it wasn't positive.

I'm not planning on getting a job either, and I have been know to imbibe in the afternoon myself. But thank the good Lord, I am not hooked up with the craziness of the Anthonys and Mr Knee Socks either.  ::MonkeyJnBox::
[/quote]

I understand...but on the other hand she many have simply been enjoying being out of the stress of school and the madness around her.  As you say being involved with the Anthony's had to take a toll on her emotions and stress level. What a shame that nearly everyone who the Anthony's have touched now have a stigma around them.

Speaking of stigma's...haven't heard or seen anything outta the Milstead's lately?  Anyone??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 12, 2009, 03:27:53 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.

I wondered who that woman was!
that only shows us what their values are. They meaning the anthonys need all the friends and support they can Muster but to let their daughter be involved in that type of relationship to me is unacceptable. it just shows their class  or lack of!!  perhaps the anthonys are paying  mallorys parents or compensating them in some way as evidenced by the  cruise they took mallory on.. I mean why else would a normal mother find it acceptable  for her daughter to date a man that belittles their daughter by telling her she comes last to him what kind of healthy relationship is that !! theres something wrong there  totaly . Maybe another family that seriously needs to be  baker acted  lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.

Oh, so that was Mallory's mother?  She greeted Cindy as if she and George had been on an around the world cruise instead of a three day Bahama cheapy. Maybe she's making a lot of money as an officer of the so-called foundation. I can't think of any other reason she would associate with those grifters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 03:33:29 PM
My personal opinion is that Malibu is not motivated enough or has enough self-esteem to extricate herself out of the situation. She's a big girl, but I guess since her mother has chosen to ride the Anthony gravy train Malibu has no support in getting out of the situation. Of course, JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 03:34:50 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21595540/detail.html
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend Deposed
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 2:16 pm EST November 12, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case on Thursday deposed the girlfriend of Anthony's brother.
Mallory Parker, the girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was deposed, but it's not known what questions she was specifically asked.

Casey Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Casey Anthony has pleaded not guilty.

Parker has been dating Lee Anthony since before Caylee's disappearance, and she has been at the Anthony family home during several events that occurred there.

Detectives never formally interviewed Parker.

Casey Anthony's defense team next week will depose Roy Kronk, the former Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee's remains near the Anthony family home.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 03:35:35 PM
No Milstupid sightings lately that I know of. That may not necessarily be a good thing, though.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
No Milstupid sightings lately that I know of. That may not necessarily be a good thing, though.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

uummmmmm I wonder if they have distanced themselves from the M's in their quest to upgrade their image. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 03:43:51 PM
Oh oh.....it says here that the House of Purpose will be opening January 1st, 2010.   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyMad::

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/thehouseofpurpose/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 03:46:58 PM
I am convinced our world has gone crazy!!  O/T

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/091112_children_stabbed_northeast_harris_county

Woman Charged in Stabbing of 2 Children Near Humble
Deputies Say Kids Were Stabbed Multiple Times

Updated: Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 2:01 PM CST
Published : Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 7:00 AM CST   

HUMBLE, Texas - Deputies say a woman is under arrest, accused of stabbing two children multiple times in a home near Humble.

Detectives with the Harris County Sheriff's Office say the victims are a 10-year-old boy and 9-year-old girl.

Officers responded to a 911 call by a neighbor who said that a woman was beating on the front door of a home at the 8200 block of Greens Road and yelling at the neighbor that she had "stabbed the children."

When investigators arrived, they found Regina Umagat, 28, laying on the driveway with her hands behind her head. Deputies say Umagat told them that she stabbed the children and that they were in a home across the street.

The children were not inside the home when deputies entered.

Dispatchers told deputies that two children were in the Memorial Hermann Northeast Hospital with multiple stab wounds. Deputies learned that the children were taken by family members to the hospital.

Life Flight helicopter was then contacted to transport the children to Memorial Hermann Hospital in the Texas Medical Center.

Deputies questioned a family member who had been watching the children but would not say how the children were related to that family member, nor would they discuss a possible motive.

Deputies say both children are in critical condition but stable condition.

Umagat has been charged with two counts of injury to a child with serious bodily injury and is being held in jail without bond.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Oh oh.....it says here that the House of Purpose will be opening January 1st, 2010.   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyMad::

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/thehouseofpurpose/index.html

Oh I hope this doesn't come to fruition!!!  Surely there has to be a way to stop this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 03:51:05 PM
Oh oh.....it says here that the House of Purpose will be opening January 1st, 2010.   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyMad::

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/thehouseofpurpose/index.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 03:57:22 PM
Found this on another sight...

November 12, 2009 / TBA
Deposition Mallory Parker - Murder Case

November 19, 2009 / TBA
Defense Deposition of Roy Kronk - Murder Case

December 11, 2009 / 9:30
Hearing - Murder and Fraud Cases

December 16, 2009 / TBA
Deposition Dominic Casey - Murder Case

January 10, 2010 / tba
Hearing - Civil Trial

January 21, 2010 / 10:00 AM (tentative)
Status Hearing - First Degree Murder Trial

January 25, 2010 / TBA
Trial - Fraud Case

February 1, 2010
Deadline for defense to turn over evidence showing proof of innocence of their client


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 04:02:02 PM
Oh oh.....it says here that the House of Purpose will be opening January 1st, 2010.   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyMad::

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/thehouseofpurpose/index.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Like I said, it might not be a good thing when there are no Milstupid sightings.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 04:04:10 PM
Found this on another sight...

November 12, 2009 / TBA
Deposition Mallory Parker - Murder Case

November 19, 2009 / TBA
Defense Deposition of Roy Kronk - Murder Case

December 11, 2009 / 9:30
Hearing - Murder and Fraud Cases

December 16, 2009 / TBA
Deposition Dominic Casey - Murder Case

January 10, 2010 / tba
Hearing - Civil Trial

January 21, 2010 / 10:00 AM (tentative)
Status Hearing - First Degree Murder Trial

January 25, 2010 / TBA
Trial - Fraud Case

February 1, 2010
Deadline for defense to turn over evidence showing proof of innocence of their client

Man! I've got to get busy marking my calender.  :smt024


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 04:40:34 PM
Thanks CC.I forgot to write down  01/21,,duh.    ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 12, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
Thanks CC.I forgot to write down  01/21,,duh.    ::MonkeyRoll::

1/10 a Sunday?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 05:04:42 PM
From the clerk of court site, but only under Judge Strickland. There is still no info available for Rodriguez so I'm not sure of dates in the civil case.

Case Number   Event Date   Event Location   Party   
08-CF-0013331-O    1/25/2010 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    1/21/2010 1000       CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/18/2009 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 05:18:42 PM
No Milstupid sightings lately that I know of. That may not necessarily be a good thing, though.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

uummmmmm I wonder if they have distanced themselves from the M's in their quest to upgrade their image. ::MonkeyDevil2::

After reading the openning date of the M's new scam, maybe THEY are distancing themselves from the A's .  The A's have become lightening rods for bad publicity and scrutiny, this new operation of the Milstupids sounds even more squirrelly than the usual get rich quick scheme. Just doesn't seem anywhere near right that those two criminals should be able to house and help any vulnerable young people.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 12, 2009, 05:49:36 PM
From the clerk of court site, but only under Judge Strickland. There is still no info available for Rodriguez so I'm not sure of dates in the civil case.

Case Number   Event Date   Event Location   Party   
08-CF-0013331-O    1/25/2010 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    1/21/2010 1000       CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/18/2009 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details

Thanks tupelo, I will mark my calendar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 12, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: I'm still at work but was wondering if there was any news on how Malware's depo went?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 05:56:51 PM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: I'm still at work but was wondering if there was any news on how Malware's depo went?

I haven't heard anything.Do you have a magic wand?   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 05:58:16 PM
Thanks CC.I forgot to write down  01/21,,duh.    ::MonkeyRoll::

1/10 a Sunday?

Yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 05:59:23 PM
From the clerk of court site, but only under Judge Strickland. There is still no info available for Rodriguez so I'm not sure of dates in the civil case.

Case Number   Event Date   Event Location   Party   
08-CF-0013331-O    1/25/2010 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    1/21/2010 1000       CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/18/2009 1000       CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0013331-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY M ANTHONY    Details
08-CF-0015606-O    12/11/2009 0930   ROOM 19-D ON THE NINTEENTH FLR   CASEY MARIE ANTHONY    Details

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
No Milstupid sightings lately that I know of. That may not necessarily be a good thing, though.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

uummmmmm I wonder if they have distanced themselves from the M's in their quest to upgrade their image. ::MonkeyDevil2::

After reading the openning date of the M's new scam, maybe THEY are distancing themselves from the A's .  The A's have become lightening rods for bad publicity and scrutiny, this new operation of the Milstupids sounds even more squirrelly than the usual get rich quick scheme. Just doesn't seem anywhere near right that those two criminals should be able to house and help any vulnerable young people.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's hard to decide who is the ickiest, the Milstupids or the Anthonys.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 06:06:03 PM
Thanks TUPELO! Looks like we are going to be busy if all these dates hold up. Time for a huge flurry of paper from Bozo and company.... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 12, 2009, 06:30:43 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21595540/detail.html
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend Deposed
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 6:26 pm EST November 12, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case on Thursday deposed the girlfriend of Anthony's brother.
Mallory Parker, the girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was deposed, but it's not known what questions she was specifically asked.

"Today's deposition was conducted by the State Attorney's Office. I was just here as Casey Anthony's representative," attorney Jose Baez said.

Casey Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Casey Anthony has pleaded not guilty.

Parker, 25, has been dating Lee Anthony since before Caylee's disappearance, and she has been at the Anthony family home during several events that occurred there.

Lee Anthony said he intentionally kept Parker away from the family's home during the first few hectic days after Caylee was reported missing, but Parker was the first person to arrive at the Anthony's home the morning Caylee's body was found. Parker was taking care of the family's dog while grandparents George and Cindy Anthony were in California for a "Larry King" taping. She was barred from entering the home because it had become a potential crime scene.

Local 6 reporter Mike DeForest said it is likely the defense asked her about that, as well as her communications with Casey Anthony during the weeks after Caylee was last seen alive. Although Casey Anthony had told her family she was on a business trip, we now know she was partying in Orlando-area bars and clubs.

Detectives never formally interviewed Parker.

Casey Anthony's defense team next week will depose Roy Kronk, the former Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee's remains near the Anthony family home.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Video  http://www.clickorlando.com/video/21596251/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 06:43:40 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21595540/detail.html
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend Deposed
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 6:26 pm EST November 12, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case on Thursday deposed the girlfriend of Anthony's brother.
Mallory Parker, the girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was deposed, but it's not known what questions she was specifically asked.

"Today's deposition was conducted by the State Attorney's Office. I was just here as Casey Anthony's representative," attorney Jose Baez said.

Casey Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Casey Anthony has pleaded not guilty.

Parker, 25, has been dating Lee Anthony since before Caylee's disappearance, and she has been at the Anthony family home during several events that occurred there.

Lee Anthony said he intentionally kept Parker away from the family's home during the first few hectic days after Caylee was reported missing, but Parker was the first person to arrive at the Anthony's home the morning Caylee's body was found. Parker was taking care of the family's dog while grandparents George and Cindy Anthony were in California for a "Larry King" taping. She was barred from entering the home because it had become a potential crime scene.

Local 6 reporter Mike DeForest said it is likely the defense asked her about that, as well as her communications with Casey Anthony during the weeks after Caylee was last seen alive. Although Casey Anthony had told her family she was on a business trip, we now know she was partying in Orlando-area bars and clubs.

Detectives never formally interviewed Parker.

Casey Anthony's defense team next week will depose Roy Kronk, the former Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee's remains near the Anthony family home.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Video  http://www.clickorlando.com/video/21596251/index.html

Malibu was there the night KC was arrested. Remember the "little cameo" jail call, when KC said she saw Lee's car was there and Spindy said he and Malibu were there? I call BS!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/014-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 06:47:00 PM

Malibu was there the night KC was arrested. Remember the "little cameo" jail call, when KC said she saw Lee's car was there and Spindy said he and Malibu were there? I call BS!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/014-1.gif)

Wrong .gif!  ::MonkeyShocked::

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/BS-flag-1.gif)
 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 06:52:33 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.

I wondered who that woman was!
that only shows us what their values are. They meaning the anthonys need all the friends and support they can Muster but to let their daughter be involved in that type of relationship to me is unacceptable. it just shows their class  or lack of!!  perhaps the anthonys are paying  mallorys parents or compensating them in some way as evidenced by the  cruise they took mallory on.. I mean why else would a normal mother find it acceptable  for her daughter to date a man that belittles their daughter by telling her she comes last to him what kind of healthy relationship is that !! theres something wrong there  totaly . Maybe another family that seriously needs to be  baker acted  lol.
LOCA~ Probably Mallory was newly involved with Lee shortly before all this started, I seem to remember he had been dating another girl before and some drama with her. In the beginning she was probably feeling so sorry for the Assthony's, the shoulder for Lee to slobber on since his real sweetie (kc) was in trouble, then when the family started showing what trashy morons that they are I can't understand why she didn't run for the hills. I'm sure that spindy spends endless hours slicing and dicing all the contradictions  and says how mistreated they all are ,but stillllll, and her mother too! How can they read all the reports and be around people that are devious, self conceited, anal, crude, rude, on and on. Yep, your're right , call in the Baker Act enforcers. I  volunteer to lace up the straightjackets.  :smt065   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 12, 2009, 06:57:52 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 07:09:40 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 07:12:17 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer3::
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

He sure seems to have lost his swagger...... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 07:23:03 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.

Very interesting that his insistence for the bench notes is what brought the bottle with the syringe and chloroform to the forefront. Be careful what you ask for, Bozo! And he quotes Pippitone's article on the amount of chloroform left in the bottle. How much chloroform would there be in the bottom of the bottle six months later if KC used it all on Caylee????  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrysquirrel-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 07:25:49 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.

Very interesting that his insistence for the bench notes is what brought the bottle with the syringe and chloroform to the forefront. Be careful what you ask for, Bozo! And he quotes Pippitone's article on the amount of chloroform left in the bottle. How much chloroform would there be in the bottom of the bottle six months later if KC used it all on Caylee????  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrysquirrel-1.gif)

Exactamundo FANNY.
Very curious that he didn't start lobbing balls into the air about the testosterone finding....hmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 08:14:28 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Secret Service would be doing in this case? That was the first I had heard of them being involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 12, 2009, 08:15:04 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I have a question? The Milstead's filed an extension on their 2008 taxes. Doesn't that have to be in by Oct 15th? Does anyone know where to find them if they have been filed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 08:20:02 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.

Very interesting that his insistence for the bench notes is what brought the bottle with the syringe and chloroform to the forefront. Be careful what you ask for, Bozo! And he quotes Pippitone's article on the amount of chloroform left in the bottle. How much chloroform would there be in the bottom of the bottle six months later if KC used it all on Caylee????  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrysquirrel-1.gif)

Exactamundo FANNY.
Very curious that he didn't start lobbing balls into the air about the testosterone finding....hmmmmm

Baez looks somewhat less cocky than usual, considering he is the first Hispanic- American to have a case of this magnitude.  You know, I never did understand why he said that.  I believe he was born in this country and we are all something-American.  I am just proud to be an American, period.  Not a hyphenated one. Maybe something happened in the deposition which was unfavorable to his little Snookums, something he has never heard before.  Whatever, he certainly was somewhat deflated and it was beautiful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 12, 2009, 08:23:27 PM
My personal opinion is that Malibu is not motivated enough or has enough self-esteem to extricate herself out of the situation. She's a big girl, but I guess since her mother has chosen to ride the Anthony gravy train Malibu has no support in getting out of the situation. Of course, JMO.

Yeah


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 08:26:11 PM
Does anyone know if Mallory had a lawyer today? Just curious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 12, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I have a question? The Milstead's filed an extension on their 2008 taxes. Doesn't that have to be in by Oct 15th? Does anyone know where to find them if they have been filed?

Hi Darla and all Monkeys.
Haven't a clue re your questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 08:33:21 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.

Very interesting that his insistence for the bench notes is what brought the bottle with the syringe and chloroform to the forefront. Be careful what you ask for, Bozo! And he quotes Pippitone's article on the amount of chloroform left in the bottle. How much chloroform would there be in the bottom of the bottle six months later if KC used it all on Caylee????  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrysquirrel-1.gif)

Exactamundo FANNY.
Very curious that he didn't start lobbing balls into the air about the testosterone finding....hmmmmm

Baez looks somewhat less cocky than usual, considering he is the first Hispanic- American to have a case of this magnitude.  You know, I never did understand why he said that.  I believe he was born in this country and we are all something-American.  I am just proud to be an American, period.  Not a hyphenated one. Maybe something happened in the deposition which was unfavorable to his little Snookums, something he has never heard before.  Whatever, he certainly was somewhat deflated and it was beautiful.
::MonkeyDance::   FINALLY!! even if it's only on the deflated part


   

   



         


   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 12, 2009, 08:34:19 PM
Bozo seems a lot more nervous in this interview after Malibu's depo...........looks like he needs some sleep.....KC must be keeping him up nights

http://www.wftv.com/video/21599176/index.html
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks for that link.

Baez is still whiney and seems amazed that the state has utilized such extensive resouces. Isn't the life and murder of a child worth that? I also love how he makes out that only when they ( team bozo) ready will the trial begin. Hate to break it to him but eventually, motions or no motions, it's going to be heard in court.
He did look like the wind was out of a few of his sails though, a first.

Very interesting that his insistence for the bench notes is what brought the bottle with the syringe and chloroform to the forefront. Be careful what you ask for, Bozo! And he quotes Pippitone's article on the amount of chloroform left in the bottle. How much chloroform would there be in the bottom of the bottle six months later if KC used it all on Caylee????  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/angrysquirrel-1.gif)

Exactamundo FANNY.
Very curious that he didn't start lobbing balls into the air about the testosterone finding....hmmmmm

Baez looks somewhat less cocky than usual, considering he is the first Hispanic- American to have a case of this magnitude.  You know, I never did understand why he said that.  I believe he was born in this country and we are all something-American.  I am just proud to be an American, period.  Not a hyphenated one. Maybe something happened in the deposition which was unfavorable to his little Snookums, something he has never heard before.  Whatever, he certainly was somewhat deflated and it was beautiful

Lol Babybear...we'll take beautiful wherever we can get it...baezazz deflated  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 12, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Secret Service would be doing in this case? That was the first I had heard of them being involved.

  Not sure but maybe they were called in regarding the "sightings" all over the country or possibly it was Bozo's over active imagination??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 12, 2009, 08:37:01 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21595540/detail.html
Lee Anthony's Girlfriend Deposed
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Daughter's Death
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
UPDATED: 6:26 pm EST November 12, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case on Thursday deposed the girlfriend of Anthony's brother.
Mallory Parker, the girlfriend of Lee Anthony, was deposed, but it's not known what questions she was specifically asked.

"Today's deposition was conducted by the State Attorney's Office. I was just here as Casey Anthony's representative," attorney Jose Baez said.

Casey Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Casey Anthony has pleaded not guilty.

Parker, 25, has been dating Lee Anthony since before Caylee's disappearance, and she has been at the Anthony family home during several events that occurred there.

Lee Anthony said he intentionally kept Parker away from the family's home during the first few hectic days after Caylee was reported missing, but Parker was the first person to arrive at the Anthony's home the morning Caylee's body was found. Parker was taking care of the family's dog while grandparents George and Cindy Anthony were in California for a "Larry King" taping. She was barred from entering the home because it had become a potential crime scene.

Local 6 reporter Mike DeForest said it is likely the defense asked her about that, as well as her communications with Casey Anthony during the weeks after Caylee was last seen alive. Although Casey Anthony had told her family she was on a business trip, we now know she was partying in Orlando-area bars and clubs.

Detectives never formally interviewed Parker.

Casey Anthony's defense team next week will depose Roy Kronk, the former Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee's remains near the Anthony family home.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Video  http://www.clickorlando.com/video/21596251/index.html

Malibu was there the night KC was arrested. Remember the "little cameo" jail call, when KC said she saw Lee's car was there and Spindy said he and Malibu were there? I call BS!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/014-1.gif)

I most certainly do Fanny! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 08:42:01 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Secret Service would be doing in this case? That was the first I had heard of them being involved.

Did Bozo say that??  ::MonkeyEek::  I missed it if he did. He was rattling off all the Wildlife Service, the FBI, FDLE and I kinda zoned out as I usually do when he's talking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 08:44:26 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I have a question? The Milstead's filed an extension on their 2008 taxes. Doesn't that have to be in by Oct 15th? Does anyone know where to find them if they have been filed?

I think IRS records are confidential. It would probably take a warrant to see them. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 08:46:53 PM

Baez looks somewhat less cocky than usual, considering he is the first Hispanic- American to have a case of this magnitude.  You know, I never did understand why he said that.  I believe he was born in this country and we are all something-American.  I am just proud to be an American, period.  Not a hyphenated one. Maybe something happened in the deposition which was unfavorable to his little Snookums, something he has never heard before.  Whatever, he certainly was somewhat deflated and it was beautiful.

Maybe that's why he didn't talk about the testosterone...Deflated!!! ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 08:49:59 PM
Can anyone tell me what the Secret Service would be doing in this case? That was the first I had heard of them being involved.

Did Bozo say that??  ::MonkeyEek::  I missed it if he did. He was rattling off all the Wildlife Service, the FBI, FDLE and I kinda zoned out as I usually do when he's talking.
He sure did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 12, 2009, 08:57:46 PM
Maybe the Secret Service was involved in this manner....Forensic Services    http://www.secretservice.gov/forensics.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 09:10:13 PM
Maybe the Secret Service was involved in this manner....Forensic Services    http://www.secretservice.gov/forensics.shtml

That could be, and sometimes even NASA gets involved in some of these crime cases. I guess he forgot about them. They have pictures that are taken from space, and can hone in on a particular area at a particular time.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 12, 2009, 09:34:29 PM
I wonder what mallorys parents think of her involvement with the anthony family. They I  am sure have kept up with the news coverage of this case. I wouldnt want my daughter involved in that family at all. How do  they feel knowing that lee considers mallory the last person on the totem pole. No parent would like to see their daughter considered such as.  I have two grown daughters! I know if it was me I wouldnt want my daughter anywhere near them! I  would be spending all my time trying to talk sense into my daughter. oviously mallory suffers from low self esteem.
I think lee is arrogant and that whole family has major issues.

yeppers...on all that you just said....

Last I heard, Mallory's mother was on the board of Cindy's sham foundation so I guess the obvious conclusion that Casey killed Caylee doesn't bother them. IMO Lee is such an idiot.  I'll never forget when he fought the sign and the sign won.  I can't imagine any female being attracted to him, but some women go for anything in pants.  I mean, look at Casey.

Yes, both Mallory and her mother are on the board. It was Mallory's mother that met the Anthonys on the dock with big hugs after the cruise.

I wondered who that woman was!
that only shows us what their values are. They meaning the anthonys need all the friends and support they can Muster but to let their daughter be involved in that type of relationship to me is unacceptable. it just shows their class  or lack of!!  perhaps the anthonys are paying  mallorys parents or compensating them in some way as evidenced by the  cruise they took mallory on.. I mean why else would a normal mother find it acceptable  for her daughter to date a man that belittles their daughter by telling her she comes last to him what kind of healthy relationship is that !! theres something wrong there  totaly . Maybe another family that seriously needs to be  baker acted  lol.
LOCA~ Probably Mallory was newly involved with Lee shortly before all this started, I seem to remember he had been dating another girl before and some drama with her. In the beginning she was probably feeling so sorry for the Assthony's, the shoulder for Lee to slobber on since his real sweetie (kc) was in trouble, then when the family started showing what trashy morons that they are I can't understand why she didn't run for the hills. I'm sure that spindy spends endless hours slicing and dicing all the contradictions  and says how mistreated they all are ,but stillllll, and her mother too! How can they read all the reports and be around people that are devious, self conceited, anal, crude, rude, on and on. Yep, your're right , call in the Baker Act enforcers. I  volunteer to lace up the straightjackets.  :smt065   
lol mizjay! I do declare and swear that tis  aint one anthony that is sane! I have never seen such bazaar behaviour! I getcha they all need a straight jacket and while their at it reserve one for mallory and her mommy. cuz even if it started out as friendship, there still should have been some red flags along the way for mallory and mommy dearest. Or they say birds of a feather flock together and so the story goes!! tis  is the case with the parkers  and with the anthonys. now u can see how loco in the head case is as a result of her living inviroment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 12, 2009, 09:36:41 PM
Maybe the Secret Service was involved in this manner....Forensic Services    http://www.secretservice.gov/forensics.shtml

That could be, and sometimes even NASA gets involved in some of these crime cases. I guess he forgot about them. They have pictures that are taken from space, and can hone in on a particular area at a particular time.  ::MonkeyCool::
maybe there is a loco sanitarium in outerspace that bozo is arranging for the anthonys for their next vacation!! leaving em there to float into never never land without a space suit!!lol what a site


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 12, 2009, 10:01:09 PM
You know I have to be honest and say..I really don't care who says what in anymore of these depos of the A family, their friends, lovers, or workerbees....because none of it ever adds up to being close to the truth. 

I am tired of the BS and just want the trial to begin or Casey to plead out.  The rest is just a farce.  The A's are bound to perjure themselves on the stand and their testimony will be thrown out..JMO..but that is what they want.  They don't want to put the stake through their daughter's heart..but they already have..because no A family member can act half way intelligent, answer a question in as few words as possible nor keep their wordy lies straight.

Let's just get this over with already and bring some dignity and justice to Caylee Marie.  She didn't deserve her death and certainly doesn't deserve all this posturing by the defense.  The State has their ducks in a row and will keep going full force until Casey calls a stop to this to plead..or is stupid enough to go to trial.  Lyons will plead her out..make no mistake she is not going to mar her record with a DP case lost..she pleads out her clients as well as any other attorney.   This is just wasting time until that point.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 12, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I have a question? The Milstead's filed an extension on their 2008 taxes. Doesn't that have to be in by Oct 15th? Does anyone know where to find them if they have been filed?

I think IRS records are confidential. It would probably take a warrant to see them. JMO

Not their Non profit forms. They are public


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 12, 2009, 10:37:05 PM
I can't remember the number of the form. I think it might be a 901 form or something similiar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
You know I have to be honest and say..I really don't care who says what in anymore of these depos of the A family, their friends, lovers, or workerbees....because none of it ever adds up to being close to the truth. 

I am tired of the BS and just want the trial to begin or Casey to plead out.  The rest is just a farce.  The A's are bound to perjure themselves on the stand and their testimony will be thrown out..JMO..but that is what they want.  They don't want to put the stake through their daughter's heart..but they already have..because no A family member can act half way intelligent, answer a question in as few words as possible nor keep their wordy lies straight.

Let's just get this over with already and bring some dignity and justice to Caylee Marie.  She didn't deserve her death and certainly doesn't deserve all this posturing by the defense.  The State has their ducks in a row and will keep going full force until Casey calls a stop to this to plead..or is stupid enough to go to trial.  Lyons will plead her out..make no mistake she is not going to mar her record with a DP case lost..she pleads out her clients as well as any other attorney.   This is just wasting time until that point.  JMHO

You know DD, you are soooooo right. Truthfully, the only thing I am even looking forward to is the fingerprint evidence. And I don't think we will even see it until trial time, if that ever comes.

The only thing that really keeps me hanging in here is CAYLEE. There have been days on this thread there was hardly a post, and all her little candles had not been lit. I said I would see this through, and I made a promise to myself and to her. So I keep coming here, even when there isn't any real news, and all there is to rehash or make jokes about KC, the Anthonys, the defense team, and the peripheral people and characters that have appeared. I have not felt light hearted with the joking, and it was almost sarcasm on my part. But I've kept coming back.

So, I guess I will be here, day after day, if only to post a picture of Caylee and to go light a candle. I am really sick of the hoo-ha that goes on with the stupidity and the reams of motions and news articles. Caylee brought me to the forums, and I'll stick as long as I am able. My heart is really not in the rest of it.

Georgie and Spindy have made as big a fool of themselves as anyone alive. They are really caricatures of themselves along with the defense team and the hangers on. I would be shocked if Malibu has a thing of substance to say.

 After I saw the chloroform and the syringe evidence and realized that KC had injected Caylee with it tore my heart out. I am sure that she did it, and put the duct tape on her to keep from hearing her screams and to stop her from breathing.

I am really done with the evidence and depo's. But I will still be every day, and sometimes act a fool myself to keep my heart from bleeding out.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 10:40:47 PM
I can't remember the number of the form. I think it might be a 901 form or something similiar

I see what you are saying. I am not sure where to find them though.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 12, 2009, 10:45:17 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 12, 2009, 11:20:36 PM
m
You know I have to be honest and say..I really don't care who says what in anymore of these depos of the A family, their friends, lovers, or workerbees....because none of it ever adds up to being close to the truth. 

I am tired of the BS and just want the trial to begin or Casey to plead out.  The rest is just a farce.  The A's are bound to perjure themselves on the stand and their testimony will be thrown out..JMO..but that is what they want.  They don't want to put the stake through their daughter's heart..but they already have..because no A family member can act half way intelligent, answer a question in as few words as possible nor keep their wordy lies straight.

Let's just get this over with already and bring some dignity and justice to Caylee Marie.  She didn't deserve her death and certainly doesn't deserve all this posturing by the defense.  The State has their ducks in a row and will keep going full force until Casey calls a stop to this to plead..or is stupid enough to go to trial.  Lyons will plead her out..make no mistake she is not going to mar her record with a DP case lost..she pleads out her clients as well as any other attorney.   This is just wasting time until that point.  JMHO
Gypsy, my pet, all I can say is this is one of the best posts I've ever seen !! You are righrt. It is so time to get this over with.  Come Clean, Casey, (or Cindy,)  It's time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 13, 2009, 01:28:54 AM
Can anyone tell me what the Secret Service would be doing in this case? That was the first I had heard of them being involved.

Did Bozo say that??  ::MonkeyEek::  I missed it if he did. He was rattling off all the Wildlife Service, the FBI, FDLE and I kinda zoned out as I usually do when he's talking.
He sure did.

I remember being surprised last year when we heard the Secret Service was involved in the case. IIRC, we decided the case probably fell under this umbrella:

Quote
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, Congress mandated the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic/technical assistance in matters involving missing and exploited children. The Secret Service offers this assistance to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. On April 30, 2003, President George W. Bush signed the PROTECT Act of 2003, known as the "Amber Alert Bill," which gave full authorization to the U.S. Secret Service in this area.

More here: http://www.secretservice.gov/forensics.shtml

I may be wrong, but that's how I remember it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: FindingAnswers on November 13, 2009, 02:02:28 AM
I was trying to catch up on this forum. I just realized something. SunnyinTX's sig line is the one my friend asked permission to use on T-shirts we made when we went to search for Caylee.

I screwed up the T Shirts but 2 of the shirts came out ok with that saying so one was given to Tim Miller.

Sorry for being off topic. That just struck me and I thank SunnyinTX for the sig line comment. It's a classic girl. Thanks. I Give full credit to you.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 06:55:08 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-jose-baez-says-chloroform-reports-were-blown-way-out-of-proportion.html
Casey Anthony: Jose Baez says chloroform reports were 'blown way out of proportion'
posted by halboedeker on Nov 12, 2009 6:37:12 PM
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A supposed smoking gun in the Casey Anthony case is "a big fizzle," WKMG-Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone said tonight.

Pipitone noted that local and national media highlighted that chloroform was found in a Gatorade bottle and syringe discovered near Caylee Anthony's remains. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter. The state released documents about the chloroform last week.

But earlier this week, Pipitone reported that the amount of chloroform was insignificant. WKMG consulted an independent chemist in reporting its story.

Anthony attorney Jose Baez cited the Pipitone report today. "You can find those chemicals and the byproducts in tap water," Baez said. "I think, as [with] everything else in this case, it was blown way out of proportion. I'm sure it made a great headline and got everybody excited, but I don't think it did any more than that."

Other media have reported the bottle was full of chloroform. Anchor Jacqueline London wanted to know what was in the bottle.

"Basically, water, cleaning fluid and testosterone compound," Pipitone said. "It seems it might have been someone's steroid kit that was found, but no connection that we know of to Casey."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 06:56:57 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/111209-casey-anthony-case
More depositions in Casey Anthony case

Updated: Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 5:25 PM EST
Published : Thursday, 12 Nov 2009, 7:18 AM EST

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against Casey Anthony heated back up Thursday.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.

Lawyers spoke with Mallory Parker. She's the girlfriend of Casey’s brother Lee Anthony. Parker met with the state attorney for a couple of hours Thursday but would not tell FOX 35 what they think she may know.

Casey Anthony’s lawyer Jose Baez was also at the deposition. FOX 35 asked him for answers about disturbing lab tests released in the case, late last week. Investigator says they found a Gatorade bottle near caylee's body and inside that bottle a syringe with traces of chloroform inside. Orange county detectives say they also found traces of chloroform in the trunk of Casey’s car.
FOX 35 asked Baez what does this does to his case. “It’s insignificant. You can find that amount those chemicals in tap water so I think as everything else in this case it was blown way out of proportion it make a good headline and got everyone excited about it, but it didn’t do a whole lot more than that.”

Earlier in the investigation cops found searches for chloroform on the Anthony family computer.

A deposition from Dominic Casey was also scheduled for Thursday but it was canceled.

Dominic Casey is a private investigator who worked for Casey Anthony’s parents George and Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 06:58:44 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/13/lee_anthonys_girlfriend_questioned_by_prosecutors.html
 Lee Anthony’s Girlfriend Questioned By Prosecutors
Friday, November 13, 2009 4:49:17 AM
ORLANDO -- The Orlando Sentinel reported that Lee Anthony's girlfriend, Mallory Parker, was questioned by prosecutors Thursday as they continue their investigation into the murder of Caylee Anthony.

Officials said Parker was dating Casey Anthony’s brother at the time when the toddler disappeared.

Casey Anthony is being held at the Orange County Jail on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter.

Anthony's trial is set to begin next summer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:01:38 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/casey-anthony-attorney-respond.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony attorney responds to syringe evidence
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ November 12, 2009 9:12 PM
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Casey Anthony's defense attorney is speaking out about new evidence of a syringe containing traces of the drug chloroform that was found near Caylee Anthony's remains.
Jose Baez says FBI lab findings will not hurt his client's case.

"It's insignificant," Baez told Channel 9 Eyewitness News. "You can find those chemicals in tap water."

The comments came after the State's deposition of the girlfriend of Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, which Baez attended. He said that the only reason the syringe evidence was made public is because of his continual prodding for FBI "bench notes."

He didn't comment of where the syringe may have come from or whether it has anything to do with Casey Anthony's case.

Investigators say Casey searched for "how to make chloroform" on the Anthony family home computer just months before Caylee went missing. And the State's tests found traces of the chemical in the trunk of Casey's abandoned car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:04:47 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 13, 2009, 08:22:46 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Trimm, thank you for all the updates this morning.   ::MonkeyAngel::

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure the Gatorade bottle w/syringe is a smoking gun either, at least for now. I do find it strange, that after all this time, there was no DNA or fingerprint reports to go along with that. In time, I guess, that will come out.

What I do find interesting is that the press has barely said a word about the entomology report. That report is very damaging to Casey and no one is discussing that. Why wasn't Baez asked about that yesterday? That report places a deceased Caylee in the trunk of Casey's car and shows that her body was placed in the woods very shortly after the last time she was seen alive. That point is so relevant, especially with Macaluso's claim that the body was placed there by a stranger when Casey was incarcerated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 09:14:06 AM
Hey Tupelo.
I wonder too,why we haven't heard much about the entomology report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 09:45:53 AM
Good Morning.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 09:46:20 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Trimm, thank you for all the updates this morning.   ::MonkeyAngel::

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure the Gatorade bottle w/syringe is a smoking gun either, at least for now. I do find it strange, that after all this time, there was no DNA or fingerprint reports to go along with that. In time, I guess, that will come out.

What I do find interesting is that the press has barely said a word about the entomology report. That report is very damaging to Casey and no one is discussing that. Why wasn't Baez asked about that yesterday? That report places a deceased Caylee in the trunk of Casey's car and shows that her body was placed in the woods very shortly after the last time she was seen alive. That point is so relevant, especially with Macaluso's claim that the body was placed there by a stranger when Casey was incarcerated.
Good Morning, Trimm thanks for the updates  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm with you I don't believe this bottle/syringe, is a smoking gun at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 10:28:49 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Trimm, thank you for all the updates this morning.   ::MonkeyAngel::

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure the Gatorade bottle w/syringe is a smoking gun either, at least for now. I do find it strange, that after all this time, there was no DNA or fingerprint reports to go along with that. In time, I guess, that will come out.

What I do find interesting is that the press has barely said a word about the entomology report. That report is very damaging to Casey and no one is discussing that. Why wasn't Baez asked about that yesterday? That report places a deceased Caylee in the trunk of Casey's car and shows that her body was placed in the woods very shortly after the last time she was seen alive. That point is so relevant, especially with Macaluso's claim that the body was placed there by a stranger when Casey was incarcerated.
Good Morning, Trimm thanks for the updates  ::MonkeyCool:: I'm with you I don't believe this bottle/syringe, is a smoking gun at all.
I have been thinking and thinking about this syringe too and the more I think about it the more I beginning to think it isn't a smoking gun either. I can't see Casey taking the time to do this when she killed Caylee - I think she killed her in a rage, now did she possibly plant it there?  I don't know about that either but it seems more like something she would do, I wonder when though?  The interview with Chris Stutz comes to my mind funny how she shows up at his house out of the blue on June 17th (I believe that is the date) and supposedly he saw someone who looked exactly like her jogging down Chickasaw some days later - may not be anything but it has been on my mind lately.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 13, 2009, 10:45:38 AM
 ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeySlide::

Good morning monkeys,,,,could someone please attach the link to light a candle for missing children, I seemed to have misplaced mine...Thank you in advance,,,


and oh,,,thank you to everyone that responded to my question regarding the chloroform it was very much appreciated... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 13, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
m
You know I have to be honest and say..I really don't care who says what in anymore of these depos of the A family, their friends, lovers, or workerbees....because none of it ever adds up to being close to the truth. 

I am tired of the BS and just want the trial to begin or Casey to plead out.  The rest is just a farce.  The A's are bound to perjure themselves on the stand and their testimony will be thrown out..JMO..but that is what they want.  They don't want to put the stake through their daughter's heart..but they already have..because no A family member can act half way intelligent, answer a question in as few words as possible nor keep their wordy lies straight.

Let's just get this over with already and bring some dignity and justice to Caylee Marie.  She didn't deserve her death and certainly doesn't deserve all this posturing by the defense.  The State has their ducks in a row and will keep going full force until Casey calls a stop to this to plead..or is stupid enough to go to trial.  Lyons will plead her out..make no mistake she is not going to mar her record with a DP case lost..she pleads out her clients as well as any other attorney.   This is just wasting time until that point.  JMHO
Gypsy, my pet, all I can say is this is one of the best posts I've ever seen !! You are righrt. It is so time to get this over with.  Come Clean, Casey, (or Cindy,)  It's time.

Good morning Monks.  I understand what you are saying, Gypsy, and why you are saying it but in my case, I am interested in what they all have to say.  I keep hoping one of them will have some redeeming quality, but so far, I am disappointed. I keep hoping, though. Also, to those of us who plan to follow the trial, we will have these statements to which to refer in comparing what they say at trial and what they said previously.  I know, of course, that SA has all of these to compare and we have nothing to do with it,  but it will be interesting to follow along.  Many of us have a lot of time already invested in following this case and to be able to participate vicariously might help us in resolving it in our minds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 10:54:48 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeySlide::

Good morning monkeys,,,,could someone please attach the link to light a candle for missing children, I seemed to have misplaced mine...Thank you in advance,,,


and oh,,,thank you to everyone that responded to my question regarding the chloroform it was very much appreciated... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::




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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 13, 2009, 10:56:16 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeySlide::

Good morning monkeys,,,,could someone please attach the link to light a candle for missing children, I seemed to have misplaced mine...Thank you in advance,,,


and oh,,,thank you to everyone that responded to my question regarding the chloroform it was very much appreciated... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Here is the SM link:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=54.0

Here is the main link for the candles:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng


Good morning Monkeys.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 13, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::  Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 11:05:47 AM
You know I have to be honest and say..I really don't care who says what in anymore of these depos of the A family, their friends, lovers, or workerbees....because none of it ever adds up to being close to the truth. 

I am tired of the BS and just want the trial to begin or Casey to plead out.  The rest is just a farce.  The A's are bound to perjure themselves on the stand and their testimony will be thrown out..JMO..but that is what they want.  They don't want to put the stake through their daughter's heart..but they already have..because no A family member can act half way intelligent, answer a question in as few words as possible nor keep their wordy lies straight.

Let's just get this over with already and bring some dignity and justice to Caylee Marie.  She didn't deserve her death and certainly doesn't deserve all this posturing by the defense.  The State has their ducks in a row and will keep going full force until Casey calls a stop to this to plead..or is stupid enough to go to trial.  Lyons will plead her out..make no mistake she is not going to mar her record with a DP case lost..she pleads out her clients as well as any other attorney.   This is just wasting time until that point.  JMHO
Thank-you for this well thought out post. I couldn't agree more, Lyons will plead her out, I just wish they would hurry up and end this charade already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 13, 2009, 11:07:15 AM
::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeySlide::

Good morning monkeys,,,,could someone please attach the link to light a candle for missing children, I seemed to have misplaced mine...Thank you in advance,,,


and oh,,,thank you to everyone that responded to my question regarding the chloroform it was very much appreciated... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Here is the SM link:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=54.0

Here is the main link for the candles:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng


Good morning Monkeys.

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Thank you very much... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 11:18:26 AM
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::  Trimm!

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 13, 2009, 11:28:20 AM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 13, 2009, 11:33:31 AM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 13, 2009, 11:58:09 AM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

 ::MonkeyKiss:: Yep...plenty of rooms..Umm.. you gonna share those bananas  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 12:13:45 PM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

 ::MonkeyKiss:: Yep...plenty of rooms..Umm.. you gonna share those bananas  ::MonkeyAngel::

Can I have mine in a banana daquri?  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 12:27:28 PM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

 ::MonkeyKiss:: Yep...plenty of rooms..Umm.. you gonna share those bananas  ::MonkeyAngel::

Can I have mine in a banana daquri?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Awww shucks Fanny - would you be willing to share your banana daiquiri with me even still?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

 ::MonkeyKiss:: Yep...plenty of rooms..Umm.. you gonna share those bananas  ::MonkeyAngel::

Can I have mine in a banana daquri?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Awww shucks Fanny - would you be willing to share your banana daiquiri with me even still?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Sure MISSION. You and me are pals. We don't have to agree on everything.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 12:43:47 PM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

 ::MonkeyKiss:: Yep...plenty of rooms..Umm.. you gonna share those bananas  ::MonkeyAngel::

Can I have mine in a banana daquri?  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Awww shucks Fanny - would you be willing to share your banana daiquiri with me even still?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Sure MISSION. You and me are pals. We don't have to agree on everything.  ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyKiss:: And I might be totally wrong - I am having such a hard time wrapping my arms around this one - I think I need to stop thinking about it for awhile and revisit it later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 13, 2009, 02:17:48 PM
Found on another site...and I had this idea about 4-5 months ago.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/monopoly.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 02:21:23 PM
Found on another site...and I had this idea about 4-5 months ago.



ROFLMAO  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 13, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
OT...mods (all and everyone of you) is it possible for you to attach the link to light the candles to the bottom of my profile (signature line http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA )

so that myself and anyone else that wants to light a candle can get there easily....PLEASE...thank you ... ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 13, 2009, 02:24:18 PM
...also found...
((EDIT - you asking for a TIMEOUT?))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 02:27:35 PM
RUN!!!!! CC!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 13, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
FannieMae
your not alone, I too feel that casey is evil and  is a vindictive (B) by her own words. I am haunted by   thoughts of what she could of possibly done to caylee. For anyone in that family or friends of that family to say that casey was a great mom is unacceptable to me. I believe casey was verbaly abusive and neglectful and possibility physicaly too!
Casey cared for for he rown  needs and wants! and had no room in her life to feed, bathe, nurture a little girl.
She is a self absorbed person, as is her mother! I have said this and will continue to say that no grandmother would justify a daughters evil actions. No normal grandparent would sell pictures and items belonging to a little  girl   who became a crime victim for profit. How they justify this in their own  minds baffles me totaly and bothers me so much. I know we all say this over and overlike a broken record ! but I think that its theraputic for us to vent our feeling and thoughts here and to others!! to release some of the frustrations we feel when we hear of this families antics and parades before the media and national T.V in defense of their daughter
Its disgusting and a disservice to caylees memory. It has been and always will be about casey to them. The memorial was a joke they made fools of themselves! lees rambling on and on and  crying about CMA you have taught me so much! what the hell  and most of all the high 5 between lee and caylee as he was taking her back to jail was totaly inappropiate and not the behaviour of an innocent person. !! what exactly did  casey teach lee to make him so proud of her!! what decieve  lie, steal  canive and kill!  I am sorry that this trajedy had to happen to caylee but than I am comforted by the thought that caylee is better off  sheltered in the arms of jesus ! that is my source of comfort. I strongly feel that had  caylee been raised in that house of horrors.! she would have been raised as casey was at the control of cindy, with the same psychological traits that her mother/grandmother have . Its a home of evil and control! every word that comes out of cindys mouth is filled with LIES and VENOM!. I am glad that the public has had a chance to see for themselves the sadistic and evilness in that family. they have been exposed and no one will have trust in anything they say. They have no credibility whatsoever. George is a reproach to  law enforcement. the fact that he was in law enforcement makes him more disgusting with his attitude and lies. He was  sworn in the past to serve  protect and in the end he ultimately failed his grandaughter because he didnt have the nerve to stand up to cindy and fight for Caylee, the man has no integrity!!  by his own choice!. He has to live with it. No doubt Fannie that she will get convicted and  nothing anything cindy or george or leee did will be in her favor. They will go on with their lifes they will live the good life for her, with money from caylees death. I hope the phoney foundation dries up and all other money coming in and that they have to spend the rest of their lives with the memory of how they dishonored caylee.

only god can forgive them because I myself cant condone casey and cindys actions never would I launder  clothes that had evidence of dna . I dont know how they get away with so much. Any other state would of already charged them with obstruction. I cant wait for the trial to come and go and  and and I stutter Justice will be served for caylee. Caylee's  in heaven but the mother/ grandparents lives will  always live in a living hell!!! here on earth for their actions and participation in the cover up of evidence, timeline and everything else they have done to try to confuse the prosecution and throw off the time line!!
PAYDAY IS COMING!!
RANT OVER!!!  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 02:51:56 PM
LOCA, (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart-1.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart-1.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/beatingheart-1.gif)  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 13, 2009, 03:35:38 PM
Awww fannie
thanks
we share one common interest here and thats justice for caylee we share frustration anger and alot of other emotions.  I myself like others am inpatiently awaiting justice to be served. what a glorous day that will be!
to see the look on casey and the anthonys eyes when the verdict is read is priceless!! It will make it all worth while.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
I guess Malibu didn't have much of interest to say.. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 13, 2009, 04:02:54 PM
What is so hard to comprehend is that Cindy and George can see by reading the internet that people find them to barely intelligent, obnoxious, lying, money hungry vultures preying on their own granddaughter's murder....and yet they just don't stop, they just don't shut up, they just can't help making fools of themselves. 

I wish Lyons would plead Casey out and let little Caylee have some shred of dignity left to her.  The most appalling info from George and Cindy to me is that they are still saying this can't be Caylee who they cremated. 

And Fanny I agree, the last doc dump was hard to read and digest because of the gruesomeness of the remains and  remains site.  I think the bug doctor did an excellent job in laying out the timing for the State of Caylee's demise and disposal.  I think Baez can blab all he wants..and Pipitone can say what he wants..but at the end of the day it ain't such a stretch for me to believe Casey would have given Caylee a needle full of cleaning fluid if she was angry..she's just that evil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 13, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
I guess Malibu didn't have much of interest to say.. ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil::
Hey, question--why was Baez there, anyway?  I wonder if his being there could have intimidated Mallory.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 13, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 13, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was clear to me.  You believe that Casey murdered Caylee, but you are not sure that the syringe was connected to the murder.  You could certainly be right.  I hope that you are wrong, but nothing personal.  You're entitled.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 04:50:50 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

I never took Lee to be the "knight in Shining Armour" type anyhow. It always seemed to be she was catering and petting on him while he looked away. Lee is interested in Lee and his comfort zone.  ::MonkeyDevil2:: I don't like Lee no way, no how. Can you tell?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 04:56:30 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I sure didn't think that way, and your view is not unpopular. There are plenty of people that feel just like you do about the chloroform and syringe. I am sure it was a rage killing too. But I still think she had a plan. The only thing she didn't think through was what to do with the body, and I find that odd. With all the gator filled lakes around there, why in the swamp around the corner? Panic? Spite? Maybe the nastiest place she could think of? I think she forgot to search on the internet how quickly a little girl's body would decompose in the trunk of a hot car in Florida in June. Maybe she thought it would just dry up?? :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 05:08:12 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was clear to me.  You believe that Casey murdered Caylee, but you are not sure that the syringe was connected to the murder.  You could certainly be right.  I hope that you are wrong, but nothing personal.  You're entitled.

Yes - thank you Babybear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 13, 2009, 05:08:58 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

The only thing I have seen in the Media was video of Baez leaving- have you seen anything else? Any of Mallory?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 13, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I sure didn't think that way, and your view is not unpopular. There are plenty of people that feel just like you do about the chloroform and syringe. I am sure it was a rage killing too. But I still think she had a plan. The only thing she didn't think through was what to do with the body, and I find that odd. With all the gator filled lakes around there, why in the swamp around the corner? Panic? Spite? Maybe the nastiest place she could think of? I think she forgot to search on the internet how quickly a little girl's body would decompose in the trunk of a hot car in Florida in June. Maybe she thought it would just dry up?? :smt102

Whew...good.  Thanks again Fanny.  Good point that she didn't think about what the heck she was going to do with a dead body in the trunk of her car in that kind of heat.  What even blows my mind more is how she could even be in that car knowing her beautiful baby girl lay dead in the trunk.  She really is evil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 13, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
It matters to me not if I am the only one that thinks the chloroform and the syringe is important. KC is evil enough, and cruel enough, and spiteful enough to do such a thing. I don't believe that it is a coincidence that chloroform was in the trunk, and also close to Caylee's skull in the swamp.

 There have been two piece of evidence that have hit me where it hurts, and this and the 3-D flyover of the remains field was the other. To see how spread out her little body ended up was gut wrenching.

So, I will sit on the branch by myself, if need be. But I will still be here.  ::MonkeyAngel::




Good Morning Gentle People  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny scooch on over sweetie, I'm right there with you. I think it has everything to do with this case. People have been speculating it was planted to incriminate, maybe it was full of chloroform or the byproducts of the chemical or maybe it was just some of the rubbish she wanted to get rid of. I do think it has something to do with her.

 ::HelloKitty::

Is there room for three on tht branch?  I won't take up much room and I'll bring bananas.

I hope this is a big branch...is there room for a fourth on there?

Everyone talks about the Gatorade bottle with the syringe too far from the body.  But I look at it as even the bones were spread far apart...so could evidence be spread around.  '

I think there's too much for a coincidence:  chlorform on computer, in trunk, on carpet in trunk, on doll, where the body was found in a bottle and in a syringe.  Too many times for chlorform to not be connected.

BTW, how often do we hear of chlorform these day.  I can't recall that word in recent years at all...except connected to this case.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:15:36 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

mission, I read your post and understood and I agree. I do not think the syringe and bottle are significant and have major doubts that it was connected with Cayee's murder.  But since none of US know for sure I think we are all allowed to think of these items as important or not. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 13, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
You are right Fanny, Lee is no knight!  Did I say "normal caring person" should have said intimidating her, for the family. They  wouldn't want her to slip up , cuz CAYLEE is alive out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:25:12 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was clear to me.  You believe that Casey murdered Caylee, but you are not sure that the syringe was connected to the murder.  You could certainly be right.  I hope that you are wrong, but nothing personal.  You're entitled.

baby, I have to chime in here and say I hope the syringe is NOT connected to the murder...... I prefer to think she somehow drugged her first and then used the duct tape.  Perhaps I am merely protecting myself from horrible nightmares.....but that's the road I am taking until, unless, it is proved to be different. However, Dr. G said she was murdered, but the way she was murdered was undetermined. And I don't believe we will ever know for sure. I think kc will go to the needle or LWOP and never tell the truth..  Even if she took a plea I do not believe she would tell the truth. As Judge Strickland said the truth and kc are strangers. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

I never took Lee to be the "knight in Shining Armour" type anyhow. It always seemed to be she was catering and petting on him while he looked away. Lee is interested in Lee and his comfort zone.  ::MonkeyDevil2:: I don't like Lee no way, no how. Can you tell?

YEP!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:27:06 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

The only thing I have seen in the Media was video of Baez leaving- have you seen anything else? Any of Mallory?

WO, that is all I have seen as well. And he was not nearly as cocky as usual.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::
I feel exactly like you do, I think she killed Caylee in a fit of rage, I for one did not misunderstand you at all  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:31:19 PM

I knew she was good....but, this is GOOD!!



Read what Forensics Professionals are saying about The Hinky Meter
November 13th, 2009

“ In this electronic Blogos-sea of [mostly] flotsam of bits, bytes, and brickbats claiming to “investigate” complex scientific issues related to criminal actions, ‘Valhall’s’ Blog sits at the top in the quality and rational testing of alternative theories of misadventure. It uses intensely and tightly argued science. Forensic scientists  in  private and governmental sectors are increasingly turning to it for learning about many complex factors of their investigations and the intricacies of the way pieces of scattered evidence may fit into a rational pattern. A trained scientist and engineer herself, ‘Valhall’ also has a true gift to discern what are the most important scientific issues, explain them in context, and expose the truth in ways  that informs the non-scientist as well the criminologist. Nothing makes this more clear than her investigation and writing about the genome, and how genetic testing works, and how it can inform an investigation, or be mis-used through mis-understanding. It is fair, balanced, and serves Justice. ”

Christopher C. Green MD, PhD
Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Scienceshttp

www.thehinkymeter.com/http:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 05:35:37 PM
Prosecutors to release documents to Casey Anthony's defense

By Amy L. Edwards, SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

3:53 p.m. EST, November 13, 2009

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State prosecutors will release more documents and other items to Casey Anthony's defense as part of the discovery process.

In a notice filed today, prosecutors said they would release about 40 pages of documents, as well as a CD and DVD of video from WFTV depicting duct tape.

The items will eventually be made available to the public.

Prosecutors today also added another expert to their witness list -- Dr. James W. Jawitz, an associate professor at the University of Florida.

According to the university's Web site, Jawitz is an associate professor in the soil and water science department and director of graduate programs.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-wftv-20091113,0,1771785.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
Sorry if this was already posted......


The Crystal Light bottle
November 11th, 2009

There’s been a significant amount of discussion on the net about the chemical analysis of the Crystal Light bottle found in the trash bag of Casey’s trunk. It appears in the past couple of days the talk has turned to pesticides being present in the bottle. This particular bottle is the small-mouthed Crystal Light bottle, with the blue top, and a small amount of “brown” looking fluid in it as seen in the following two pictures.


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(Photos courtesy of WFTV)

Initially the rumors about the Crystal Light bottle centered around it being urine (because of the description listed of it smelling as such), so let’s look at this claim. The first thing we need to do is pull together the data from the various tables and test results through-out the mega-document released on Friday.

For the table on 913 we have:

Dark yellowish liquid
Odor consistent with urine
Water
No chloroform

For the table on 940 we have:

Methanol (MeOH)
Methyl ethyl ketone
2-Butanol
Dimethyl disulfide
Anisole
p-Cresol

From the test results for HS-GC-MSD on pages 996 to 1010 we have:

Methyl isocyanide
2-Butanone
Trimethylamine
1-Methoxycycloheptratriene
Phenol
Cyclohexane
Benzothiazole
2-Nonanol, 5-ethyl-

The first thing I noticed about this list was that it was, for the most part, solvents. Some of these are also used as propellants in aerosol spray products. The Triethylamine was the most likely culprit for the “urine smell”. Not looking over any concentrations, it seemed like a weird brew to have in a bottle in your car (even if it was in the trash). But it definitely wasn’t urine – not unless some one is drinking MEK and tinkling solvents (not to mention it would be rather difficult for Casey to pee into a small-mouthed bottle). It was easy to dismiss that idea pretty quickly.

Others pointed out that some of these could be used in pesticides. So I felt it was worth extra effort to determine if there could be something here I wasn’t seeing. I passed the full list above to two chemists on Tuesday. One of these is a research and development chemist who has experience in toxicology and the other is a retired forensics chemist with two decades of experience in criminal investigations. I asked them if they found a bottle with the above contituents, what would they figure it to be, and were there any pesticides present. The R&D chemist came back and pointed out the majority were solvents, that some could be used as propellants, and “no, there were no pesticides present”. His best guess was that it might be some cleaner/degreaser. The forensics chemist came back and stated it appeared to be a cleaner/solvent/degreaser, and “no, there were no pesticides present”.

Then an astute member of Websleuths, butwhatif, went out and did some awesome research and found that a significant number of these compounds were used in the processing of tobacco.  Of course, an empty Copenhagen can was in the trash bag with this bottle.  Upon reading this great information from butwhatif, I remembered that I had had a professor, who specializes in the chemistry and classification of waste for proper management, who in two different classes I had under him had written a cute little comment after grading my essays asking, “Okay, now, classify the contents of a spit cup.”  It was just a little note to get you thinking.

So I emailed him and explained that because of the two times he left that comment I was hoping he actually knew the answer!  I gave him a hypothetical situation in which he finds a plastic soda bottle empty of its original contents but containing the list of chemicals above, noting the smell of urine and that it most likely came from the Trimethylamine, and I asked – Are these contents the contents of a spit cup used by a Copenhagen user?

His response was that it appears it was the contents of a spit cup.  He then vetted himself by explaining he had provided guidance to individuals involved in the clean up of major league baseball stadiums after games.  He stated that on the average there would be 100 to 200 spit cups left behind that had to be properly managed.  Hence the analytical knowledge of “spit cup profiles”.

So, there you have it.  It appears the Crystal Light bottle was a spit cup for Tony’s roommate when he was dipping his Copenhagen.

Valhall.


http://www.thehinkymeter.com/



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 05:38:13 PM
http://soils.ifas.ufl.edu/personnel/jawitz.html
James W. Jawitz
Associate Professor and Director of Graduate Programs
Environmental Hydrology

Environmental Hydrology Laboratory

DEPARTMENTAL RESEARCH AREAS
Remediation of Contaminated Soils, Waters, and Aquifers
Soil Quality/Ecosystem Services
Wetlands and Aquatic Systems

RESEARCH FOCUS
Emphasis on minimizing human impacts on natural hydrologic ecosystems, including watersheds, wetlands, and aquifers. Develops and applies hydro-ecological models to natural and constructed wetlands. Develops techniques for characterization and remediation of contaminated soil and groundwater.

COURSES TAUGHT
CWR 6537 - Contaminant Subsurface Hydrology
SOS 4245/5245 - Water Resource Sustainability
SOS 4932/6932 - Florida Lake Management

SELECT PUBLICATIONS
Wang, H., and Jawitz, J.W., 2006. Hydraulic analysis of cell-network treatment wetlands. Journal of Hydrology, 330, pp. 721-724, doi:10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.05.005.

Fure, A.D., Jawitz, J.W., and Annable, M.D., 2006. DNAPL source depletion: Linking architecture and flux response. Journal of Contaminant Hydrology, 85, pp. 118-140, doi:10.1016/j.jconhyd.2006.01.002.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 05:38:33 PM
Prosecutors to release documents to Casey Anthony's defense

By Amy L. Edwards, SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

3:53 p.m. EST, November 13, 2009

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State prosecutors will release more documents and other items to Casey Anthony's defense as part of the discovery process.

In a notice filed today, prosecutors said they would release about 40 pages of documents, as well as a CD and DVD of video from WFTV depicting duct tape.

The items will eventually be made available to the public.

Prosecutors today also added another expert to their witness list -- Dr. James W. Jawitz, an associate professor at the University of Florida.

According to the university's Web site, Jawitz is an associate professor in the soil and water science department and director of graduate programs.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-discovery-wftv-20091113,0,1771785.story

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Thanks trim!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
http://soils.ifas.ufl.edu/research/index.htm
Research Areas

The SWSD organizes its activities/programs into five Research Areas, which categorize and describe the department's programs and activities in research, teaching, and extension. Each of these areas are intended to fully integrate research, teaching, and extension. The department has committed itself to expertise and resources so that it may make scientific and educational advances in each of these areas.

Management of Nutrients, Pesticides, and Wastes  Sustainable agriculture; Soil-water-plant relationships; Rhizosphere processes; Fate and transport of nutrients, pesticides, and trace metals; Waste management-animal wastes, biosolids, compost, and other non-hazardous wastes; Turfgrass fertility management; Water quality
Faculty:  Nick Comerford, Samira Daroub, Jim Graham, Sabine Grunwald, Ed Hanlon, Yuncong Li, Vimala Nair, Peter Nkedi-Kizza, Tom Obreza, George O’Connor, Rao Mylavarapu, Jack Rechcigl, Jerry Sartain, Arnold Schumann, Amy Shober, Maria Silveira, Craig Stanley, Max Teplitski, John Thomas, Gurpal Toor, and Ann Wilkie

Remediation of Contaminated Soils, Waters, and Aquifers  Fate and transport of toxic organics and metals; In situ metal immobilization; Bioremediation/phytoremediation; Molecular microbial ecology; Groundwater quality
Faculty:  Jim Jawitz, Lena Ma, Rao Mylavarapu, Andy Ogram, Dean Rhue, John Thomas, Gurpal Toor, and Ann Wilkie

Soil Quality/Ecosystem Services   Carbon sequestration,  Bioenergy, Soil morphological indicators, Chemical indicators, Microbial  indicators, Ecosystem restoration
Faculty: Nick Comerford, Carl Fitz, Sabine Grunwald, Willie Harris, Patrick Inglett; Andy Ogram, Rao Mylavarapu, Vimala Nair, Ramesh Reddy, Gurpal Toor, and Alan Wright
Soil/Landscape Analysis  Soil genesis and classification; Pedologic processes; Landscape hydrology; Soil and water chemical processes; Soil and water microbial processes; Risk assessment
Faculty:  Mary Collins, Rex Ellis, Carl Fitz, Sabine Grunwald, Willie Harris, Jim Jawitz, Rao Mylavarapu, and Todd Osborne

Wetlands and Aquatic Systems  Hydric soils; Wetland delineation; Hydrology; Soil-water-plant relationships; Molecular microbial ecology; Biogeochemistry; Restoration of wetlands and lakes; Water quality
Faculty:  Mark Clark, Mary Collins, Wade Hurt, Patrick Inglett, Jim Jawitz, Sue Newman, Andy Ogram, Todd Osborne, Ramesh Reddy, Max Teplitski, and Alan Wright

(http://soils.ifas.ufl.edu/personnel/images/jawitz.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Protect the little babies on November 13, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Mods, YOU ARE AWESOME, THANK YOU....

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 05:46:04 PM

I knew she was good....but, this is GOOD!!



Read what Forensics Professionals are saying about The Hinky Meter
November 13th, 2009

“ In this electronic Blogos-sea of [mostly] flotsam of bits, bytes, and brickbats claiming to “investigate” complex scientific issues related to criminal actions, ‘Valhall’s’ Blog sits at the top in the quality and rational testing of alternative theories of misadventure. It uses intensely and tightly argued science. Forensic scientists  in  private and governmental sectors are increasingly turning to it for learning about many complex factors of their investigations and the intricacies of the way pieces of scattered evidence may fit into a rational pattern. A trained scientist and engineer herself, ‘Valhall’ also has a true gift to discern what are the most important scientific issues, explain them in context, and expose the truth in ways  that informs the non-scientist as well the criminologist. Nothing makes this more clear than her investigation and writing about the genome, and how genetic testing works, and how it can inform an investigation, or be mis-used through mis-understanding. It is fair, balanced, and serves Justice. ”

Christopher C. Green MD, PhD
Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Scienceshttp

www.thehinkymeter.com/http:

Wow!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 13, 2009, 06:24:37 PM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was clear to me.  You believe that Casey murdered Caylee, but you are not sure that the syringe was connected to the murder.  You could certainly be right.  I hope that you are wrong, but nothing personal.  You're entitled.

baby, I have to chime in here and say I hope the syringe is NOT connected to the murder...... I prefer to think she somehow drugged her first and then used the duct tape.  Perhaps I am merely protecting myself from horrible nightmares.....but that's the road I am taking until, unless, it is proved to be different. However, Dr. G said she was murdered, but the way she was murdered was undetermined. And I don't believe we will ever know for sure. I think kc will go to the needle or LWOP and never tell the truth..  Even if she took a plea I do not believe she would tell the truth. As Judge Strickland said the truth and kc are strangers. JMO

That's a really good point, Sunny.  I was looking at it from the viewpoint of a smoking gun to tie Casey into the crime scene.  I do hope that she drugged her first and then however she murdered her, Caylee was not aware of it.  I believe she probably put the tape on Caylee's nose and mouth first and she became unconscious from lack of oxygen, but you're right.  We'll probably never know.  It is horrific any way you look at it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 06:43:52 PM
http://soils.ifas.ufl.edu/personnel/jawitz.html
James W. Jawitz
Associate Professor and Director of Graduate Programs
Environmental Hydrology

Environmental Hydrology Laboratory

DEPARTMENTAL RESEARCH AREAS
Remediation of Contaminated Soils, Waters, and Aquifers
Soil Quality/Ecosystem Services
Wetlands and Aquatic Systems

RESEARCH FOCUS
Emphasis on minimizing human impacts on natural hydrologic ecosystems, including watersheds, wetlands, and aquifers. Develops and applies hydro-ecological models to natural and constructed wetlands. Develops techniques for characterization and remediation of contaminated soil and groundwater.

COURSES TAUGHT
CWR 6537 - Contaminant Subsurface Hydrology
SOS 4245/5245 - Water Resource Sustainability
SOS 4932/6932 - Florida Lake Management

SELECT PUBLICATIONS
Wang, H., and Jawitz, J.W., 2006. Hydraulic analysis of cell-network treatment wetlands. Journal of Hydrology, 330, pp. 721-724, doi:10.1016/j.jhydrol.2006.05.005.

Fure, A.D., Jawitz, J.W., and Annable, M.D., 2006. DNAPL source depletion: Linking architecture and flux response. Journal of Contaminant Hydrology, 85, pp. 118-140, doi:10.1016/j.jconhyd.2006.01.002.

Thanks trim....you are just too ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Mods, YOU ARE AWESOME, THANK YOU....

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



I agree!!  In fact that's something I think we can all agree on!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 06:46:14 PM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I would love to be able to find out for sure if Tony's roommates did in fact chew baccy!! ::Baseball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 06:48:07 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 06:49:19 PM


baby, I have to chime in here and say I hope the syringe is NOT connected to the murder...... I prefer to think she somehow drugged her first and then used the duct tape.  Perhaps I am merely protecting myself from horrible nightmares.....but that's the road I am taking until, unless, it is proved to be different. However, Dr. G said she was murdered, but the way she was murdered was undetermined. And I don't believe we will ever know for sure. I think kc will go to the needle or LWOP and never tell the truth..  Even if she took a plea I do not believe she would tell the truth. As Judge Strickland said the truth and kc are strangers. JMO

That's a really good point, Sunny.  I was looking at it from the viewpoint of a smoking gun to tie Casey into the crime scene.  I do hope that she drugged her first and then however she murdered her, Caylee was not aware of it.  I believe she probably put the tape on Caylee's nose and mouth first and she became unconscious from lack of oxygen, but you're right.  We'll probably never know.  It is horrific any way you look at it.

Just the thought of a mother killing their child is horrific to me....I will never ever be able to understand it. I just keep hoping that Caylee didn't suffer. But I also try to keep in mind that she is not suffering now.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 06:51:51 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 07:04:01 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:07:49 PM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I would love to be able to find out for sure if Tony's roommates did in fact chew baccy!! ::Baseball::

I know.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

Oh to be a fly on the wall at the LE office.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:12:01 PM
::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Mods, YOU ARE AWESOME, THANK YOU....

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



I agree!!  In fact that's something I think we can all agree on!!

Me too! They are great.   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Blink On Crime - Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape ...
FYI – Tony Lazzaro's room mate Nate 'chews' so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or 'dip' ...
blinkoncrime.com/.../caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released/ -

I haven't found the actual post yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 13, 2009, 07:31:55 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Blink On Crime - Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape ...
FYI – Tony Lazzaro's room mate Nate 'chews' so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or 'dip' ...
blinkoncrime.com/.../caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released/ -

I haven't found the actual post yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks...interesting...so I wonder was it in the trunk of the car when she dumped Caylee and it somehow got thrown out with Caylee...or did kc actually plant the bottle so if/when Caylee's remains were found the bottle would point to someone else? Obviously we don't know the answer...but would love to!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 13, 2009, 07:44:41 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Blink On Crime - Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape ...
FYI – Tony Lazzaro's room mate Nate 'chews' so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or 'dip' ...
blinkoncrime.com/.../caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released/ -

I haven't found the actual post yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks...interesting...so I wonder was it in the trunk of the car when she dumped Caylee and it somehow got thrown out with Caylee...or did kc actually plant the bottle so if/when Caylee's remains were found the bottle would point to someone else? Obviously we don't know the answer...but would love to!! ::MonkeyWink::

I'm going with on of the two options you listed.It's all gonna come back to Casey.
You are right .We would love to know.

O.K. my eyes are fried.Gotta take a brake for a bit.
Have a great evening.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I still don't think KC would be above taking a plug and spitting in a jar.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 07:49:32 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/caylee2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 13, 2009, 08:09:38 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Blink On Crime - Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape ...
FYI – Tony Lazzaro's room mate Nate 'chews' so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or 'dip' ...
blinkoncrime.com/.../caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released/ -

I haven't found the actual post yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks...interesting...so I wonder was it in the trunk of the car when she dumped Caylee and it somehow got thrown out with Caylee...or did kc actually plant the bottle so if/when Caylee's remains were found the bottle would point to someone else? Obviously we don't know the answer...but would love to!! ::MonkeyWink::

This is the Crystal Light bottle that was found in the trash bag in Casey's trunk. As far as I can tell, all the garbage in that bag came from Tony's apartment. He even identified almost all of it for LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 13, 2009, 08:09:45 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

Yes, I believe his room mate chewed tobacco. LE asked him that..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 13, 2009, 09:51:31 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

Yes, I believe his room mate chewed tobacco. LE asked him that..
Thanks, I forgot  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 13, 2009, 10:03:18 PM
http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/back-again-for-effort-number-two/

Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Back again for effort number two!


Snipped:

Now, to the more important issues at hand.  Over the months I have been questioned repeatedly as to why the State of Florida would spend the time and resources to move forward with the prosecution of Casey Anthony on the fraud and forged check charges, wherein Casey’s former friend, Amy Huizenga, is the victim.  The answer is three-fold, two of which directly affects Casey’s prosecution on the first degree murder charges of her daughter, Caylee.  As many of you know, when a person is charged with a crime, the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure provide the right to a “speedy trial”.  That is: a person must be brought to trial within a certain period of time, again, those time constraints and exceptions being mandated by the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure.  What many of you may not be aware of is that under certain provisions of Florida law, the VICTIM of a crime, in this case,  Amy Huizenga, also has a right to have her day in court in a reasonably timely manner.  It was this right which gave rise to the prosecutors, the very same assistant states attorneys prosecuting the murder charges, to ask Judge Strickland to deny any further defense motions for continuance (postponement), and to set the case for trial.  In a well-reasoned opinion, the judge agreed that Ms. Huizenga’s request was reasonable and the defense was well able to prepare their case for trial.  Accordingly, the judge set the fraud/forged checks case to be heard during the trial period commencing January 25, 2010.  In that prosecution, Casey is facing a total of 13 counts: 9 felonies (4 counts of uttering a forged check; 4 counts of fraudulent use of  personal identification; l count of uttering forged bills/notes) in addition to 4 misdemeanors (4 counts of petty theft).  Basically, Casey is charged with unlawfully gaining possession of Ms. Huizenga’s checks, forging Ms. Huizenga’s name and giving same to a store in exchange for merchandise.  So, each time Casey used Ms. Huizenga’s checks in the above-described manner, she commited a separate crime.  When Casey forged Ms. Huizenga’s name to a check and used her stolen I.D. while presenting the stolen check, she committed the crime of fraudulent use of personal identification.  When Casey gave that check to another person, she committed the crime of uttering (a fancy legal term for giving) a forged instrument.  Lastly, when she received merchandise for the forged check, she committed the crime of theft. Because the amount of the merchandise received for each check she passed did not exceed $300.00, the theft was a misdemeanor, or petty theft, a less serious crime.  The 9 third degree felonies are punishable by, inter alia, (among other things) a sentence of up to five years in state prison, on each count, for a total exposure of 45 years.  The four misdemeanors are punishable by up to one year in the county jail on each count, for a total exposure of 4 years of county time, which time would be served consecutive to (after) any state prison sentence imposed by the judge.

Now for the good part, how does this affect the prosecution of the murder case you may wonder.  Of the 13 counts, 9 would constitute felony convictions, 4 would constitute misdemeanor convictions, for crimes involving dishonesty, all convictions occurring PRIOR to Casey’s murder trial.  So, for example, if Casey is convicted of ALL of the charges against her in the case under discussion, she would have 9 felony convictions, plus 4 misdemeanor convictions, for crimes involving dishonesty.  Therefore, under Florida law, if Casey were to take the witness stand in her murder trial to testify on her own behalf, the prosecutor who cross examines her will ask her how many times she has been convicted of a crime for which she could serve more than one year in state prison (a felony).  We would anticipate her answer to be “9 times”.  Next, she would be asked how many times she has been convicted of a crime involving dishonesty.  Again, we would anticipate under our example that her answer would be “4 times”.  I suspect that when jurors hear her responses, the negative impact upon  her credibility with them would be considerable.  Additionally, her defense lawyers will have to seriously consider whether they should put Casey on the stand at all.  During my years as a criminal defense lawyer,  I had to make the decision not to put my client on the witness stand for that very reason.  By the way, if Casey testifies truthfully as to the correct number of her prior convictions, the prosecutor’s questions related to those convictions must end there.  However, should Casey lie as to the correct number, the prosecutor will then methodically produce evidence to the jury as to the particulars of each and every separate conviction.  (When I was a prosecutor, I loved when that happened.  It can provide you with endless cross examination of the defendant, further exposing that person as a liar while under oath.)   Finally, and most interestingly, should Casey be found guilty of first degree murder, the State of Florida will use her prior felony convictions as AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES to persuade her jury to impose the death penalty over life in prison.  Remember, in order to sustain a sentence of death, the aggravating circumstances must outweigh the mitigating circumstances.  These are presented to the same jury in a separate, post conviction “penalty” phase.  But, more about that in a later blog, if you would like.

Hopefully this blog provides a little insight into the State’s strategy to prepare and bring to trial the less egregious charges first.  Until next time, let’s be kind to one another in our exchanges.   WJS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 13, 2009, 10:17:59 PM
Wow, thanks Trimm and Sunny for those updates, more to think about.

Hi nrcg........it sure does add another possibility to the mystery!
Yes it does, I want to know also about chewing tobacco and whether Tony, his roomate, or any of the friends indulged in this habit.

me too!!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Blink On Crime - Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape ...
FYI – Tony Lazzaro's room mate Nate 'chews' so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or 'dip' ...
blinkoncrime.com/.../caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released/ -

I haven't found the actual post yet.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks...interesting...so I wonder was it in the trunk of the car when she dumped Caylee and it somehow got thrown out with Caylee...or did kc actually plant the bottle so if/when Caylee's remains were found the bottle would point to someone else? Obviously we don't know the answer...but would love to!! ::MonkeyWink::

This is the Crystal Light bottle that was found in the trash bag in Casey's trunk. As far as I can tell, all the garbage in that bag came from Tony's apartment. He even identified almost all of it for LE.

That's what I thought too, TUPELO, about the Crystal Light bottle.

And thank you for the Bill Shaeffer article. Yeah, let's have KC go to trial as a felon!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 13, 2009, 10:44:44 PM
One thing I don't understand about both of Mr. Schaeffer's articles...... In the first one, he said that Caylee was found in the same clothing that George testified to. Many posters asked him to recheck that fact. Today's article he said, “Also, please know that when I assert an evidentiary fact, I stand by the correctness thereof.”   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyConfused::   Have I missed something on this issue?  Although reading over there the last few days has been a nightmare, I don't recall anything else he said being questioned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 14, 2009, 02:46:56 AM
I think I am rather unpopular for my post earlier today about the needle and syringe, I want to clarify if only one thing, and that is I in no way shape or form think that KC is anything but evil - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind she murdered Caylee and want her to pay either with the DP or LWOP, I should have expounded more in my post - it is NOT that I don't think she was capable of injecting her with a needle full of chloroform it is more that I feel she killed her in a fit of rage and that perhaps the circumstances may not have included the needle and syringe. I hope my feelings about Caylee are not misunderstood because that is the reason I am here as well, for her.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Hi Mission, you are not at all unpopular for having your own opinion, it is just as likely that we are wrong. We all have different takes on things and stating your opinion can make us rethink and reevaluate our own ideas.  ::MonkeyKiss:: 

Plenty of room on the branch for you too... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 06:08:56 AM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/74.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 06:13:18 AM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I still don't think KC would be above taking a plug and spitting in a jar.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

A photo of it would be nice.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 08:19:44 AM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=765&cpage=1
Casey Anthony chloroform reports, what about the syringe?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 12 - 2009

Casey Anthony Chloroform, what about the Syringe?
(http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/wp-content/uploads/casey_anthony1.jpg)
Newly revealed reports showed a connection between Casey Anthony and her daughter Caylee Anthony’s death as evidence of a Gatorade bottle and syringe that contained traces of chloroform were found near Caylee’s skeletal remains. While many speculated that this was the smoking gun that would blow away the case, Casey Anthony’s attorney states that the chloroform was blown out of proportion. According to a report by the Orlando Sentinel and Hal Bodeker, WKMG Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone called in a private chemist who tested the chloroform and stated that the traces were miniscule and insignificant.


What about the syringe?


There is no way to determine how Caylee Anthony died, and the prosecution as well as potential jurors know that. What has been found, might be more damning to Casey Anthony than the amount of chloroform found in the syringe. How hard will it be for the prosecution to show that the syringe buried near Caylee’s lifeless body was connected to her murder?


No matter what was in that syringe, it will not be difficult for the prosecution to prove that the syringe was connected to Caylee’s death. The fact that it was buried with her body is enough to prove sinister intent.
Caylee Anthony was injected with something. The syringe was found buried by her body, and it is clear that evidence used in her murder was buried with her.

Since Caylee was not a diabetic or required intramuscular injections, the syringe itself is damning evidence against Casey.


Many believe the prosecution is still holding on to its ‘smoking gun’ but unfortunately for the defense, the real blow to Casey’s defense might just be the syringe itself, regardless of what it contained or how much.


The prosecution does not have to prove how Casey Anthony killed Caylee, only that she did it.


The syringe is proof that Caylee’s body was injected with something that killed her or sedated her while she suffocated; therefore the instruments of death were buried alongside her. And don’t forget the duct tape that covered her nose and mouth. It has already been confirmed that Caylee Anthony was murdered. The cause of death is homicide by undetermined means. Whether or not the contents of the syringe are known is meaningless. The syringe alone shows that something was injected into Caylee, and then when she was dead, it was thrown away with her as if she were trash.
The potential jurors will go into trial knowing that the cause of death is undetermined. Will the amount of chloroform and testosterone in the syringe really be enough to set Casey Anthony free or will the syringe be the damning piece of evidence that sends Casey Anthony to the electric chair?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 14, 2009, 08:44:11 AM
I'd like to ask Mr Pipitone how he managed to get access to evidence ( bottle with Chloroform) or were he and his chemist just estimating from the list of chemical ingredients shown...? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 14, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/back-again-for-effort-number-two/

Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Back again for effort number two!


Snipped:

Now, to the more important issues at hand.  Over the months I have been questioned repeatedly as to why the State of Florida would spend the time and resources to move forward with the prosecution of Casey Anthony on the fraud and forged check charges, wherein Casey’s former friend, Amy Huizenga, is the victim.  The answer is three-fold, two of which directly affects Casey’s prosecution on the first degree murder charges of her daughter, Caylee.  As many of you know, when a person is charged with a crime, the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure provide the right to a “speedy trial”.  That is: a person must be brought to trial within a certain period of time, again, those time constraints and exceptions being mandated by the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure.  What many of you may not be aware of is that under certain provisions of Florida law, the VICTIM of a crime, in this case,  Amy Huizenga, also has a right to have her day in court in a reasonably timely manner.  It was this right which gave rise to the prosecutors, the very same assistant states attorneys prosecuting the murder charges, to ask Judge Strickland to deny any further defense motions for continuance (postponement), and to set the case for trial.  In a well-reasoned opinion, the judge agreed that Ms. Huizenga’s request was reasonable and the defense was well able to prepare their case for trial.  Accordingly, the judge set the fraud/forged checks case to be heard during the trial period commencing January 25, 2010.  In that prosecution, Casey is facing a total of 13 counts: 9 felonies (4 counts of uttering a forged check; 4 counts of fraudulent use of  personal identification; l count of uttering forged bills/notes) in addition to 4 misdemeanors (4 counts of petty theft).  Basically, Casey is charged with unlawfully gaining possession of Ms. Huizenga’s checks, forging Ms. Huizenga’s name and giving same to a store in exchange for merchandise.  So, each time Casey used Ms. Huizenga’s checks in the above-described manner, she commited a separate crime.  When Casey forged Ms. Huizenga’s name to a check and used her stolen I.D. while presenting the stolen check, she committed the crime of fraudulent use of personal identification.  When Casey gave that check to another person, she committed the crime of uttering (a fancy legal term for giving) a forged instrument.  Lastly, when she received merchandise for the forged check, she committed the crime of theft. Because the amount of the merchandise received for each check she passed did not exceed $300.00, the theft was a misdemeanor, or petty theft, a less serious crime.  The 9 third degree felonies are punishable by, inter alia, (among other things) a sentence of up to five years in state prison, on each count, for a total exposure of 45 years.  The four misdemeanors are punishable by up to one year in the county jail on each count, for a total exposure of 4 years of county time, which time would be served consecutive to (after) any state prison sentence imposed by the judge.

Now for the good part, how does this affect the prosecution of the murder case you may wonder.  Of the 13 counts, 9 would constitute felony convictions, 4 would constitute misdemeanor convictions, for crimes involving dishonesty, all convictions occurring PRIOR to Casey’s murder trial.  So, for example, if Casey is convicted of ALL of the charges against her in the case under discussion, she would have 9 felony convictions, plus 4 misdemeanor convictions, for crimes involving dishonesty.  Therefore, under Florida law, if Casey were to take the witness stand in her murder trial to testify on her own behalf, the prosecutor who cross examines her will ask her how many times she has been convicted of a crime for which she could serve more than one year in state prison (a felony).  We would anticipate her answer to be “9 times”.  Next, she would be asked how many times she has been convicted of a crime involving dishonesty.  Again, we would anticipate under our example that her answer would be “4 times”.  I suspect that when jurors hear her responses, the negative impact upon  her credibility with them would be considerable.  Additionally, her defense lawyers will have to seriously consider whether they should put Casey on the stand at all.  During my years as a criminal defense lawyer,  I had to make the decision not to put my client on the witness stand for that very reason.  By the way, if Casey testifies truthfully as to the correct number of her prior convictions, the prosecutor’s questions related to those convictions must end there.  However, should Casey lie as to the correct number, the prosecutor will then methodically produce evidence to the jury as to the particulars of each and every separate conviction.  (When I was a prosecutor, I loved when that happened.  It can provide you with endless cross examination of the defendant, further exposing that person as a liar while under oath.)   Finally, and most interestingly, should Casey be found guilty of first degree murder, the State of Florida will use her prior felony convictions as AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES to persuade her jury to impose the death penalty over life in prison.  Remember, in order to sustain a sentence of death, the aggravating circumstances must outweigh the mitigating circumstances.  These are presented to the same jury in a separate, post conviction “penalty” phase.  But, more about that in a later blog, if you would like.

Hopefully this blog provides a little insight into the State’s strategy to prepare and bring to trial the less egregious charges first.  Until next time, let’s be kind to one another in our exchanges.   WJS

Good Morning Monks. Thanks tupelo.....he sure made that very clear!  I am so glad he started this blog!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 14, 2009, 10:11:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Me too, Sunny! I'm glad he started the blog! I like the way he and the State are thinking!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 10:38:13 AM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I still don't think KC would be above taking a plug and spitting in a jar.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

A photo of it would be nice.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: darla on November 14, 2009, 12:24:13 PM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=765&cpage=1
Casey Anthony chloroform reports, what about the syringe?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 12 - 2009

Casey Anthony Chloroform, what about the Syringe?
(http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/wp-content/uploads/casey_anthony1.jpg)
Newly revealed reports showed a connection between Casey Anthony and her daughter Caylee Anthony’s death as evidence of a Gatorade bottle and syringe that contained traces of chloroform were found near Caylee’s skeletal remains. While many speculated that this was the smoking gun that would blow away the case, Casey Anthony’s attorney states that the chloroform was blown out of proportion. According to a report by the Orlando Sentinel and Hal Bodeker, WKMG Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone called in a private chemist who tested the chloroform and stated that the traces were miniscule and insignificant.


What about the syringe?


There is no way to determine how Caylee Anthony died, and the prosecution as well as potential jurors know that. What has been found, might be more damning to Casey Anthony than the amount of chloroform found in the syringe. How hard will it be for the prosecution to show that the syringe buried near Caylee’s lifeless body was connected to her murder?


No matter what was in that syringe, it will not be difficult for the prosecution to prove that the syringe was connected to Caylee’s death. The fact that it was buried with her body is enough to prove sinister intent.
Caylee Anthony was injected with something. The syringe was found buried by her body, and it is clear that evidence used in her murder was buried with her.


Since Caylee was not a diabetic or required intramuscular injections, the syringe itself is damning evidence against Casey.


Many believe the prosecution is still holding on to its ‘smoking gun’ but unfortunately for the defense, the real blow to Casey’s defense might just be the syringe itself, regardless of what it contained or how much.


The prosecution does not have to prove how Casey Anthony killed Caylee, only that she did it.


he syringe is proof that Caylee’s body was injected with something that killed her or sedated her while she Tsuffocated; therefore the instruments of death were buried alongside her. And don’t forget the duct tape that covered her nose and mouth. It has already been confirmed that Caylee Anthony was murdered. The cause of death is homicide by undetermined means. Whether or not the contents of the syringe are known is meaningless. The syringe alone shows that something was injected into Caylee, and then when she was dead, it was thrown away with her as if she were trash.
The potential jurors will go into trial knowing that the cause of death is undetermined. Will the amount of chloroform and testosterone in the syringe really be enough to set Casey Anthony free or will the syringe be the damning piece of evidence that sends Casey Anthony to the electric chair?


Good Morning Monkeys and Guest.

The above statements bolded by me have me confused. From what I read in the documents iirc, the bottle and syringe were found in the area around where Caylee's remains were found. not that it was buried with her body. I did not read anywhere that it was in the bag with her remains. I am not saying that it could not be what was used to kill Caylee, but this article seems to be stating it as a fact. Also in the first paragraph it says NEAR the body and in the next says buried WITH the body. I guess everyone has their own interpretation of what they read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 12:34:42 PM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=765&cpage=1
Casey Anthony chloroform reports, what about the syringe?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 12 - 2009

Casey Anthony Chloroform, what about the Syringe?
(http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/wp-content/uploads/casey_anthony1.jpg)
Newly revealed reports showed a connection between Casey Anthony and her daughter Caylee Anthony’s death as evidence of a Gatorade bottle and syringe that contained traces of chloroform were found near Caylee’s skeletal remains. While many speculated that this was the smoking gun that would blow away the case, Casey Anthony’s attorney states that the chloroform was blown out of proportion. According to a report by the Orlando Sentinel and Hal Bodeker, WKMG Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone called in a private chemist who tested the chloroform and stated that the traces were miniscule and insignificant.


What about the syringe?


There is no way to determine how Caylee Anthony died, and the prosecution as well as potential jurors know that. What has been found, might be more damning to Casey Anthony than the amount of chloroform found in the syringe. How hard will it be for the prosecution to show that the syringe buried near Caylee’s lifeless body was connected to her murder?


No matter what was in that syringe, it will not be difficult for the prosecution to prove that the syringe was connected to Caylee’s death. The fact that it was buried with her body is enough to prove sinister intent.
Caylee Anthony was injected with something. The syringe was found buried by her body, and it is clear that evidence used in her murder was buried with her.


Since Caylee was not a diabetic or required intramuscular injections, the syringe itself is damning evidence against Casey.


Many believe the prosecution is still holding on to its ‘smoking gun’ but unfortunately for the defense, the real blow to Casey’s defense might just be the syringe itself, regardless of what it contained or how much.


The prosecution does not have to prove how Casey Anthony killed Caylee, only that she did it.


he syringe is proof that Caylee’s body was injected with something that killed her or sedated her while she Tsuffocated; therefore the instruments of death were buried alongside her. And don’t forget the duct tape that covered her nose and mouth. It has already been confirmed that Caylee Anthony was murdered. The cause of death is homicide by undetermined means. Whether or not the contents of the syringe are known is meaningless. The syringe alone shows that something was injected into Caylee, and then when she was dead, it was thrown away with her as if she were trash.
The potential jurors will go into trial knowing that the cause of death is undetermined. Will the amount of chloroform and testosterone in the syringe really be enough to set Casey Anthony free or will the syringe be the damning piece of evidence that sends Casey Anthony to the electric chair?


Good Morning Monkeys and Guest.

The above statements bolded by me have me confused. From what I read in the documents iirc, the bottle and syringe were found in the area around where Caylee's remains were found. not that it was buried with her body. I did not read anywhere that it was in the bag with her remains. I am not saying that it could not be what was used to kill Caylee, but this article seems to be stating it as a fact. Also in the first paragraph it says NEAR the body and in the next says buried WITH the body. I guess everyone has their own interpretation of what they read.

I thought the bag was "near" the remains, and somewhere I think I read "near the skull." I never read "buried" with her remains before either. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 12:55:30 PM
Fanny,I read near the skull also.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:59 pm EST November 11, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
Fanny,I read near the skull also.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:59 pm EST November 11, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
<snipped>

Here it says syringe in bag about 6 inches away from skull.     ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 14, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=765&cpage=1
Casey Anthony chloroform reports, what about the syringe?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On November - 12 - 2009

Casey Anthony Chloroform, what about the Syringe?
(http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/wp-content/uploads/casey_anthony1.jpg)
Newly revealed reports showed a connection between Casey Anthony and her daughter Caylee Anthony’s death as evidence of a Gatorade bottle and syringe that contained traces of chloroform were found near Caylee’s skeletal remains. While many speculated that this was the smoking gun that would blow away the case, Casey Anthony’s attorney states that the chloroform was blown out of proportion. According to a report by the Orlando Sentinel and Hal Bodeker, WKMG Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone called in a private chemist who tested the chloroform and stated that the traces were miniscule and insignificant.


What about the syringe?


There is no way to determine how Caylee Anthony died, and the prosecution as well as potential jurors know that. What has been found, might be more damning to Casey Anthony than the amount of chloroform found in the syringe. How hard will it be for the prosecution to show that the syringe buried near Caylee’s lifeless body was connected to her murder?


No matter what was in that syringe, it will not be difficult for the prosecution to prove that the syringe was connected to Caylee’s death. The fact that it was buried with her body is enough to prove sinister intent.
Caylee Anthony was injected with something. The syringe was found buried by her body, and it is clear that evidence used in her murder was buried with her.


Since Caylee was not a diabetic or required intramuscular injections, the syringe itself is damning evidence against Casey.


Many believe the prosecution is still holding on to its ‘smoking gun’ but unfortunately for the defense, the real blow to Casey’s defense might just be the syringe itself, regardless of what it contained or how much.


The prosecution does not have to prove how Casey Anthony killed Caylee, only that she did it.


he syringe is proof that Caylee’s body was injected with something that killed her or sedated her while she Tsuffocated; therefore the instruments of death were buried alongside her. And don’t forget the duct tape that covered her nose and mouth. It has already been confirmed that Caylee Anthony was murdered. The cause of death is homicide by undetermined means. Whether or not the contents of the syringe are known is meaningless. The syringe alone shows that something was injected into Caylee, and then when she was dead, it was thrown away with her as if she were trash.
The potential jurors will go into trial knowing that the cause of death is undetermined. Will the amount of chloroform and testosterone in the syringe really be enough to set Casey Anthony free or will the syringe be the damning piece of evidence that sends Casey Anthony to the electric chair?


Good Morning Monkeys and Guest.

The above statements bolded by me have me confused. From what I read in the documents iirc, the bottle and syringe were found in the area around where Caylee's remains were found. not that it was buried with her body. I did not read anywhere that it was in the bag with her remains. I am not saying that it could not be what was used to kill Caylee, but this article seems to be stating it as a fact. Also in the first paragraph it says NEAR the body and in the next says buried WITH the body. I guess everyone has their own interpretation of what they read.

I thought the bag was "near" the remains, and somewhere I think I read "near the skull." I never read "buried" with her remains before either. JMO

You are correct Fanny. Basically just 9 inches from her skull.

http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740668/detail.html

page 17:

Skull was found 19 feet 8 inches south of surburban drive 87 feet east of light pole
Disney bag found 19feet 81/2 inches south of suburban drive 86 feet 3 inches east of light pole


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2009, 01:07:20 PM
 ::MonkeyJnBox::  Hey Tupelo. 
I so wish this trial was about to start.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 14, 2009, 02:03:23 PM
::MonkeyJnBox::  Hey Tupelo. 
I so wish this trial was about to start.   ::MonkeyCool::

Me too. But I want her convicted of the 9 third degree felonies and the 4 misdemeanors first.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 14, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
::MonkeyJnBox::  Hey Tupelo. 
I so wish this trial was about to start.   ::MonkeyCool::
Hi Trimm! Me too.... I have seen other cases where the trials have come and gone and justice was served for those victims, and here we are, still wading through poorly written motions.  :gaah: The fraud trial will come soon, but that does not seek justice for Caylee, but it will help in the sentencing phase for the murder trial. So I do find comfort in that. Our hearts belong to Caylee and that makes the waiting unbearable. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 14, 2009, 02:13:49 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=675

Adipocere and DNA testing
November 14th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 14, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

The only thing I have seen in the Media was video of Baez leaving- have you seen anything else? Any of Mallory?

WO, that is all I have seen as well. And he was not nearly as cocky as usual.

IMO, if Beaz actuallythought he had a good defense case, he wouldn't even respond to the media when he exited.  He would just say "No comment."   

Instead, he deliberately chit chats, throwing crumbs and bait around for the media to gobble up so he can make his comments.   Then he acts so shocked at their attention.   It's sort of like that old joke when a coy young girl says to the boy trying to steal a kiss:  "Don't ... stop." LOL

Bottom Line:  He knows the case is hopeless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 14, 2009, 03:00:24 PM
Sunny,the Copenhagen part was very interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::

I agree.   Thanks for the Valhall info !!!       ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 14, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
One thing I don't understand about both of Mr. Schaeffer's articles...... In the first one, he said that Caylee was found in the same clothing that George testified to. Many posters asked him to recheck that fact. Today's article he said, “Also, please know that when I assert an evidentiary fact, I stand by the correctness thereof.”   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyConfused::   Have I missed something on this issue?  Although reading over there the last few days has been a nightmare, I don't recall anything else he said being questioned.

I don't think you've missed anything ... I'm thinking we'll learn more at trial & pieces of the puzzle will finally present themselves;   Yes, I gave up reading there as it has become rather strenuous-lol.

So glad Mr. Sheaffer is blogging though, as when he does finally post, he is a joy to read. so informative.  So I hope he continues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babysin on November 14, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
Hi, New here, Been following this case from day one, and just felt the need to state a couple of things that are JMO.

Firstly, I can not say if I believe the syringe or Gatorade bottle found at Caylee`s remains sight had anything to do
with Caylee`s murder definitely (though it is very compelling due to the searches on the family computer and traces of chloroform found in the trunk)
But I can say that I don't think its as significant as the coffin flies found in KC`s trunk, from my understanding coffin flies are known for their remarkable
ability to find their way to hidden or well confined remains, not to mention they are typically only found on very decomposed tissue, and I know all too well how hot Florida gets and how much faster a body decomposes when left in the heat, roughly 90 degrees at the time of Caylee`s death, then adding in factors like being in an enclosed trunk I believe puts the temp roughly 100-120 degrees. Also, as many have said previously even if the traces of chloroform found in the syringe and bottle were "Insignificant levels" that doesn't necessarily cross out its likely hood that it was indeed used to aid Caylee`s death, I highly doubt either of the two were dark enough or sealed air tight to prevent the vapors from eluding.

Secondly, as far as the DP is concerned, The odds of a woman being sentenced to die for their crime is a mere 2 percent out of all death penalty cases, IMO,If Casey was to get the DP it would most likely be because of the high profile status of this case, whether that is legal or not. If she was to get DP, I`m more inclined to believe it is because of how utterly sick Florida has gotten with so many child murders/missing children that have taken place in recent years. Though I truly believe Casey did in fact commit this crime (along with many others) I find it highly unlikely she will get the DP, LWOP seems much more probable statistically speaking. IMO Casey is a sociopath (I`m sure many would agree) she can never be rehabilitated and she will never feel remorse or guilt for her crimes, but only justifying it (only to herself) as doing what she felt in her mind was right. A sociopath only thinks of one thing, ME ME ME, if they are not getting what they want or doing what they want, they will find any means necessary to fulfill their desire to get what they want, For example, Casey`s need to socialize the way most young adults are able to with out being "Held back" by a child, Casey was very vindictive and jealous toward Cindy from the time Caylee was born and handed to Cindy before Casey, right to the end, with Cindy being the soul bread winner for caylee and the "Mother figure" in her short life. As Caylee got older Casey realized more and more, the attention was being taken away from her and directed to Caylee, It was no longer "Aw look at YOUR little girl" it was "Aw isn`t THAT little girl so cute" if that makes sense.

As I have said several times through out, these are strictly my opinions, and in no way determine the truths of this crime or Casey`s mental stability, but merely how I have interpreted the case and Casey`s mental state based on the information I have gathered and how I analyze them. With that being said I end with not only my gut instinct that Casey did in fact commit the crimes shes facing punishment for in the court of law, and research I find that agrees with my gut instinct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 14, 2009, 05:27:42 PM
Hi, New here, Been following this case from day one, and just felt the need to state a couple of things that are JMO.

Firstly, I can not say if I believe the syringe or Gatorade bottle found at Caylee`s remains sight had anything to do
with Caylee`s murder definitely (though it is very compelling due to the searches on the family computer and traces of chloroform found in the trunk)
But I can say that I don't think its as significant as the coffin flies found in KC`s trunk, from my understanding coffin flies are known for their remarkable
ability to find their way to hidden or well confined remains, not to mention they are typically only found on very decomposed tissue, and I know all too well how hot Florida gets and how much faster a body decomposes when left in the heat, roughly 90 degrees at the time of Caylee`s death, then adding in factors like being in an enclosed trunk I believe puts the temp roughly 100-120 degrees. Also, as many have said previously even if the traces of chloroform found in the syringe and bottle were "Insignificant levels" that doesn't necessarily cross out its likely hood that it was indeed used to aid Caylee`s death, I highly doubt either of the two were dark enough or sealed air tight to prevent the vapors from eluding.

Secondly, as far as the DP is concerned, The odds of a woman being sentenced to die for their crime is a mere 2 percent out of all death penalty cases, IMO,If Casey was to get the DP it would most likely be because of the high profile status of this case, whether that is legal or not. If she was to get DP, I`m more inclined to believe it is because of how utterly sick Florida has gotten with so many child murders/missing children that have taken place in recent years. Though I truly believe Casey did in fact commit this crime (along with many others) I find it highly unlikely she will get the DP, LWOP seems much more probable statistically speaking. IMO Casey is a sociopath (I`m sure many would agree) she can never be rehabilitated and she will never feel remorse or guilt for her crimes, but only justifying it (only to herself) as doing what she felt in her mind was right. A sociopath only thinks of one thing, ME ME ME, if they are not getting what they want or doing what they want, they will find any means necessary to fulfill their desire to get what they want, For example, Casey`s need to socialize the way most young adults are able to with out being "Held back" by a child, Casey was very vindictive and jealous toward Cindy from the time Caylee was born and handed to Cindy before Casey, right to the end, with Cindy being the soul bread winner for caylee and the "Mother figure" in her short life. As Caylee got older Casey realized more and more, the attention was being taken away from her and directed to Caylee, It was no longer "Aw look at YOUR little girl" it was "Aw isn`t THAT little girl so cute" if that makes sense.

As I have said several times through out, these are strictly my opinions, and in no way determine the truths of this crime or Casey`s mental stability, but merely how I have interpreted the case and Casey`s mental state based on the information I have gathered and how I analyze them. With that being said I end with not only my gut instinct that Casey did in fact commit the crimes shes facing punishment for in the court of law, and research I find that agrees with my gut instinct.

Babysin:

Excellent first post!

I think you may be right about the DP vs. LWOP.

I also believe there are many among us here who would prefer LWOP so she might suffer longer as her punishment.

I'd also like to welcome you to the cage! Nice to have you posting with us!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 14, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
Welcome Babysin. Excellent post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 05:31:59 PM
Welcome BABYSIN!!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 05:40:17 PM
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CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 05:45:57 PM
Fanny,I read near the skull also.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
Lab Analyzes Syringe Found Near Caylee
Chemist Calls Amount Of Chloroform 'Insignificant'
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Tuesday, November 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:59 pm EST November 11, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The presence of chloroform in a bottle and syringe recovered within inches of homicide victim Caylee Anthony’s skull is chemically insignificant, according to a chemist who analyzed FBI lab results for Local 6.
<snipped>

Here it says syringe in bag about 6 inches away from skull.     ::MonkeyKiss::
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html

Sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut!!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

I guess every now and then I can remember a fact. Thanks!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 14, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=675

Adipocere and DNA testing
November 14th, 2009

Thanks for the article, and for letting me know that the Disney bag was near her skull. I'm ready for the trial too.... :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 14, 2009, 06:36:47 PM
WELCOME Babysin  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  Great first post, and I don't think there is much of a chance at all for Casey getting the DP. LWOP is much more likely.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 14, 2009, 06:57:16 PM
WELCOME BABYSIN

Great first post indeed!  I agree, I don't think that Casey will receive the DP either, but I do feel this is the perfect case to let the public know that these crimes committed against defenseless children will no longer be tolerated and the DP would send that message loud and clear. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 14, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
Casey is a cameleon!
It is not beneath her to spit into anything! if she thinks it will gain her acceptance with her peers than she is all for it! I do wonder how many former friends are even her friends still! I dont mean the sick pen pals she  has made! because those are just opportunist who want to be known for befriending  her like it was a big deal to be her friend. It wouldnt surprise me of anything she is capable of doing to others and to her family if she was to get aquitted! but we all know its not gonna happen. And in regards to mallory going into that depo alone! we shouldnt be surprised after all she is the least on the totem pole. That is sad but its something she chooses to live with. she is not getting a grand prize in lee or his family. I would think that cindy would of gone with her or even her own mother thats pathetic. I hope that it was for the best! perhaps she will open up to LEE more ya think. I just cant wrap my mind around the idea that mallory or her mom would even want to be seen with the anthonys. I wouldnt want any one of my daughters to date the likes of lee! that whole family is biggtime damaged goods. Its not a healthy inviroment for anyones daughter.
just IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 14, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
Tupo
I dont think she will get the DP but if she does I say hooray!! if she doesnt and she gets life well than I can live with that. Her spending the rest of her  young years and life in a prison rotting away gone are all the luxuries she once took for granted. she took her friends and family for granted. Did she think tony would stand by her hmmm I am sure he knows that he wasnt the only man she had on a string.He will move on, Jesse will move on !! Her nightmare has just begun!!I doubt after its all done that the anthonys will vissit her much, maybe to start with but as time  goes on and their responsibility to her has been fullfilled ! they will fade out of sight. As for her attorney he will move on to other cases, her life will be prison, the comissary, providing her parents put money on her books. No more parties, nice clothes, taco bell!  yupp no more Yo quiero taco bell for her!! She will never drive a car  again!! never do  all of the things she took for granted. Her little cameleon self will have to make new friends in prison! become best freinds with big bubbas sister. Sigh a new beautiful like a new tatooo done in prison.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 14, 2009, 09:44:33 PM
Tupo
I dont think she will get the DP but if she does I say hooray!! if she doesnt and she gets life well than I can live with that. Her spending the rest of her  young years and life in a prison rotting away gone are all the luxuries she once took for granted. she took her friends and family for granted. Did she think tony would stand by her hmmm I am sure he knows that he wasnt the only man she had on a string.He will move on, Jesse will move on !! Her nightmare has just begun!!I doubt after its all done that the anthonys will vissit her much, maybe to start with but as time  goes on and their responsibility to her has been fullfilled ! they will fade out of sight. As for her attorney he will move on to other cases, her life will be prison, the comissary, providing her parents put money on her books. No more parties, nice clothes, taco bell!  yupp no more Yo quiero taco bell for her!! She will never drive a car  again!! never do  all of the things she took for granted. Her little cameleon self will have to make new friends in prison! become best freinds with big bubbas sister. Sigh a new beautiful like a new tatooo done in prison.
I meant to say a new beautiful life


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 14, 2009, 09:54:22 PM
Casey was really obsessed to get in contact with Tony the first days of her arrest.....she asked Lee's girlfriend if Tony was there with them waiting for her to call...hhhaha when she told Casey that he was not there the silence of Casey said a lot of things


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 14, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
Hi, New here, Been following this case from day one, and just felt the need to state a couple of things that are JMO.

Firstly, I can not say if I believe the syringe or Gatorade bottle found at Caylee`s remains sight had anything to do
with Caylee`s murder definitely (though it is very compelling due to the searches on the family computer and traces of chloroform found in the trunk)
But I can say that I don't think its as significant as the coffin flies found in KC`s trunk, from my understanding coffin flies are known for their remarkable
ability to find their way to hidden or well confined remains, not to mention they are typically only found on very decomposed tissue, and I know all too well how hot Florida gets and how much faster a body decomposes when left in the heat, roughly 90 degrees at the time of Caylee`s death, then adding in factors like being in an enclosed trunk I believe puts the temp roughly 100-120 degrees. Also, as many have said previously even if the traces of chloroform found in the syringe and bottle were "Insignificant levels" that doesn't necessarily cross out its likely hood that it was indeed used to aid Caylee`s death, I highly doubt either of the two were dark enough or sealed air tight to prevent the vapors from eluding.

Secondly, as far as the DP is concerned, The odds of a woman being sentenced to die for their crime is a mere 2 percent out of all death penalty cases, IMO,If Casey was to get the DP it would most likely be because of the high profile status of this case, whether that is legal or not. If she was to get DP, I`m more inclined to believe it is because of how utterly sick Florida has gotten with so many child murders/missing children that have taken place in recent years. Though I truly believe Casey did in fact commit this crime (along with many others) I find it highly unlikely she will get the DP, LWOP seems much more probable statistically speaking. IMO Casey is a sociopath (I`m sure many would agree) she can never be rehabilitated and she will never feel remorse or guilt for her crimes, but only justifying it (only to herself) as doing what she felt in her mind was right. A sociopath only thinks of one thing, ME ME ME, if they are not getting what they want or doing what they want, they will find any means necessary to fulfill their desire to get what they want, For example, Casey`s need to socialize the way most young adults are able to with out being "Held back" by a child, Casey was very vindictive and jealous toward Cindy from the time Caylee was born and handed to Cindy before Casey, right to the end, with Cindy being the soul bread winner for caylee and the "Mother figure" in her short life. As Caylee got older Casey realized more and more, the attention was being taken away from her and directed to Caylee, It was no longer "Aw look at YOUR little girl" it was "Aw isn`t THAT little girl so cute" if that makes sense.

As I have said several times through out, these are strictly my opinions, and in no way determine the truths of this crime or Casey`s mental stability, but merely how I have interpreted the case and Casey`s mental state based on the information I have gathered and how I analyze them. With that being said I end with not only my gut instinct that Casey did in fact commit the crimes shes facing punishment for in the court of law, and research I find that agrees with my gut instinct.

Babysin:

Excellent first post!

I think you may be right about the DP vs. LWOP.

I also believe there are many among us here who would prefer LWOP so she might suffer longer as her punishment.

I'd also like to welcome you to the cage! Nice to have you posting with us!

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I agree LWOP is better because she will suffer longer...and in 5 years when nobody will give the anthonies a penny....cincin will have to send George and Lee to work to support the inmate casey anthony' tacos and some cream for the extra pimples will continue growing in her back.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 07:40:12 AM
Good Morning.    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 07:40:55 AM
::MonkeyJnBox::  Hey Tupelo. 
I so wish this trial was about to start.   ::MonkeyCool::

Me too. But I want her convicted of the 9 third degree felonies and the 4 misdemeanors first.

 ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Sounds great!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 07:47:11 AM
Justice for Caylee    ::MonkeyAngel::
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 07:48:15 AM
Welcome Babysin.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 15, 2009, 08:30:15 AM
Good Morning Trimm and all Monkeys!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/caylee-prosecution-expert-gets-murder-conviction-with-coffin-fly-evidence/

Caylee Prosecution Expert Gets Murder Conviction With Coffin Fly Evidence

Saturday, November 14, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 15, 2009, 08:32:54 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SweetMorgan on November 15, 2009, 08:45:42 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .

I guess all I can say about that is     Hmmmmmmmmmm?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 15, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .

I lost interest ( and faith) in what he has to say ever since he did a 180 with his opinion of what happened to Caylee as soon as his wife signed up to Casey's defense. It was embarrassing to watch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 15, 2009, 09:14:10 AM
Good morning, Monkeys.

A couple of thoughts:

Maybe the syringe was used to inject a sedative, so KC could apply the duct tape and Caylee suffocated.

Maybe the syringe was used to inject air...knowing that would kill Caylee.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 09:34:16 AM
Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Kat_Gram on November 15, 2009, 09:39:11 AM
I have this gut feeling that his blogtalk radio show will make us MAD.
Let's see if Michael Baden, who is not listed as an expert has seen the evidence that was not going to be shared.
Take notes. I will take a pass as I am pizzed already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 15, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .

I lost interest ( and faith) in what he has to say ever since he did a 180 with his opinion of what happened to Caylee as soon as his wife signed up to Casey's defense. It was embarrassing to watch.
I agree with you. He shares a home and a bed with LKB, so we all know what is important to him and it's not revealing the truth for Caylee Marie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 09:54:18 AM
::MonkeyJnBox::  Hey Tupelo. 
I so wish this trial was about to start.   ::MonkeyCool::

Make that my wish as well.....trim...I love your avatar.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 09:57:37 AM
Where were the media yesterday, when Malibu arrived and exited her depo? 

A normal caring person,whose girlfriend was thrown into this mess, should have walked her in the building and sat outside the courtroom, WAITING for her..knowing that the day and the circumstances where impossible.
Where was Lee?

The only thing I have seen in the Media was video of Baez leaving- have you seen anything else? Any of Mallory?

WO, that is all I have seen as well. And he was not nearly as cocky as usual.

IMO, if Beaz actuallythought he had a good defense case, he wouldn't even respond to the media when he exited.  He would just say "No comment."   

Instead, he deliberately chit chats, throwing crumbs and bait around for the media to gobble up so he can make his comments.   Then he acts so shocked at their attention.   It's sort of like that old joke when a coy young girl says to the boy trying to steal a kiss:  "Don't ... stop." LOL

Bottom Line:  He knows the case is hopeless.

If it were just about any other attorney, I'd agree...but Baez LOVES the cameras, loves the spotlight.....he says kc has good reasons for doing everything she did...well let's hear them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
Hi, New here, Been following this case from day one, and just felt the need to state a couple of things that are JMO.

Firstly, I can not say if I believe the syringe or Gatorade bottle found at Caylee`s remains sight had anything to do
with Caylee`s murder definitely (though it is very compelling due to the searches on the family computer and traces of chloroform found in the trunk)
But I can say that I don't think its as significant as the coffin flies found in KC`s trunk, from my understanding coffin flies are known for their remarkable
ability to find their way to hidden or well confined remains, not to mention they are typically only found on very decomposed tissue, and I know all too well how hot Florida gets and how much faster a body decomposes when left in the heat, roughly 90 degrees at the time of Caylee`s death, then adding in factors like being in an enclosed trunk I believe puts the temp roughly 100-120 degrees. Also, as many have said previously even if the traces of chloroform found in the syringe and bottle were "Insignificant levels" that doesn't necessarily cross out its likely hood that it was indeed used to aid Caylee`s death, I highly doubt either of the two were dark enough or sealed air tight to prevent the vapors from eluding.

Secondly, as far as the DP is concerned, The odds of a woman being sentenced to die for their crime is a mere 2 percent out of all death penalty cases, IMO,If Casey was to get the DP it would most likely be because of the high profile status of this case, whether that is legal or not. If she was to get DP, I`m more inclined to believe it is because of how utterly sick Florida has gotten with so many child murders/missing children that have taken place in recent years. Though I truly believe Casey did in fact commit this crime (along with many others) I find it highly unlikely she will get the DP, LWOP seems much more probable statistically speaking. IMO Casey is a sociopath (I`m sure many would agree) she can never be rehabilitated and she will never feel remorse or guilt for her crimes, but only justifying it (only to herself) as doing what she felt in her mind was right. A sociopath only thinks of one thing, ME ME ME, if they are not getting what they want or doing what they want, they will find any means necessary to fulfill their desire to get what they want, For example, Casey`s need to socialize the way most young adults are able to with out being "Held back" by a child, Casey was very vindictive and jealous toward Cindy from the time Caylee was born and handed to Cindy before Casey, right to the end, with Cindy being the soul bread winner for caylee and the "Mother figure" in her short life. As Caylee got older Casey realized more and more, the attention was being taken away from her and directed to Caylee, It was no longer "Aw look at YOUR little girl" it was "Aw isn`t THAT little girl so cute" if that makes sense.

As I have said several times through out, these are strictly my opinions, and in no way determine the truths of this crime or Casey`s mental stability, but merely how I have interpreted the case and Casey`s mental state based on the information I have gathered and how I analyze them. With that being said I end with not only my gut instinct that Casey did in fact commit the crimes shes facing punishment for in the court of law, and research I find that agrees with my gut instinct.

Welcome Babysin. I agree the coffin flies and coffin wax are going to be a huge part of the evidence that can not be refuted. I also agree about the DP...Susan Smith didn't get the DP...and IMO if anyone deserved it she did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
WELCOME Babysin  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  Great first post, and I don't think there is much of a chance at all for Casey getting the DP. LWOP is much more likely.

nrcg, I agree. I think if Dr. G had been able to determine COD there might have been a chance of getting the DP.  I would love for her to get the DP so she had to sit for years and wonder when her date with the needle was. Sitting in prison for the rest of her life is IMO not enough punishment. kc will adjust to prison just as she has adjusted to jail. Just as Susan Smith has adjusted.....and even found a sex friend...just as kc will IMO

http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-12870.html

These will be her favorite new websites
http://www.womenbehindbars.com/

http://www.womeninwaiting.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:23:18 AM
Good Morning Trimm and all Monkeys!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/11/caylee-prosecution-expert-gets-murder-conviction-with-coffin-fly-evidence/

Caylee Prosecution Expert Gets Murder Conviction With Coffin Fly Evidence

Saturday, November 14, 2009

Good Morning tupelo and all Monks Old and New....great read....WOOHOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:57:53 AM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .

I lost interest ( and faith) in what he has to say ever since he did a 180 with his opinion of what happened to Caylee as soon as his wife signed up to Casey's defense. It was embarrassing to watch.

WO, I feel the same way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:58:57 AM
Good morning, Monkeys.

A couple of thoughts:

Maybe the syringe was used to inject a sedative, so KC could apply the duct tape and Caylee suffocated.

Maybe the syringe was used to inject air...knowing that would kill Caylee.

Good Morning Puzzler..I guess anything is possible in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 15, 2009, 10:59:29 AM
I have this gut feeling that his blogtalk radio show will make us MAD.
Let's see if Michael Baden, who is not listed as an expert has seen the evidence that was not going to be shared.
Take notes. I will take a pass as I am pizzed already.

I will take a pass too..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 15, 2009, 12:52:46 PM
Good morning, Monkeys.

A couple of thoughts:

Maybe the syringe was used to inject a sedative, so KC could apply the duct tape and Caylee suffocated.

Maybe the syringe was used to inject air...knowing that would kill Caylee.



Good Morning everyone.  ::MonkeyAngel::
PUZZLER, There were traces of chloroform in the bottom of the bottle and in the syringe. I don't think Caylee was injected with air.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 15, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/2797032513_a1fe17690d_m-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cecilita on November 15, 2009, 01:09:37 PM
I know this is nohaniya forum but my husband said that he heard that the mother was charged with human traffiking


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 15, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/

THIS SUNDAY AT 8:00 P.M.: DR. MICHAEL BADEN AND CASEY ANTHONY DEFENSE ATTORNEY, LINDA KENNEY BADEN

November 14, 2009 by Steph

Please join me for an exclusive interview with husband and wife team Dr. Michael Baden and Criminal defense Attorney Linda Kenny Baden.

Dr. Baden is the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and he is the host of the HBO “Autopsy” series, now in its thirteenth year. He is also a Contributor for FOX News Channel, and is a reviewer for the New England Journal of Medicine. He performed the autopsy on Kathleen Savio, 3rd wife of Bolingbrook Police Officer Drew Peterson, now behind bars. Dr Baden’s results reclassified Savio’s murder from an accident to a homicide.

Linda Kenny Baden, an expert Criminal Defense Attorney and Author, best known for her work on the Phil Spector defense team, is also preparing to defend Casey Anthony in her death penalty case in Florida. Together they penned two thriller novels — “Remains Silent” and “Skeleton Justice.” Available on amazon.com. They will take us inside their cases, inside their lives together, and take your calls!!
drb

“JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY” Every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m., tune in for the Latest Breaking News and High Profile Crimes Cases, including observations on the media’s coverage of news stories. Featuring Investigation Insiders, Media Analysts, Network Talent, Authors, Activists and Celebrities.

Just click on:
www.blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This .


I shall take a pass also - do not have the stomach for their blah.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 15, 2009, 01:50:34 PM
OT but I don't see a thread for Shania-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227989/Race-time-year-old-girl-sold-prostitution-mother.html
This is so disgusting it's really hard to imagine there are people like this out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 02:09:08 PM
OT but I don't see a thread for Shania-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227989/Race-time-year-old-girl-sold-prostitution-mother.html
This is so disgusting it's really hard to imagine there are people like this out there.

Hey Western,here is the thread if you want to check it out.    ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6471.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 15, 2009, 02:25:13 PM
OT but I don't see a thread for Shania-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227989/Race-time-year-old-girl-sold-prostitution-mother.html
This is so disgusting it's really hard to imagine there are people like this out there.

Hey Western,here is the thread if you want to check it out.    ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6471.0

Thanks Trimm- I searched for a thread, honest.... :wink:, but not well enough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
OT but I don't see a thread for Shania-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227989/Race-time-year-old-girl-sold-prostitution-mother.html
This is so disgusting it's really hard to imagine there are people like this out there.

Hey Western,here is the thread if you want to check it out.    ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6471.0

Thanks Trimm- I searched for a thread, honest.... :wink:, but not well enough.

Took me a few looks to find it too.  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 15, 2009, 03:07:10 PM
Ye Olde Cindy Anthony Faerie Tale updated
By justfoolinaround2
November 14, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/v/fJqh8H16v_4&hl=en_US&fs=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
OT but I don't see a thread for Shania-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227989/Race-time-year-old-girl-sold-prostitution-mother.html
This is so disgusting it's really hard to imagine there are people like this out there.

Hey Western,here is the thread if you want to check it out.    ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6471.0

Thanks Trimm- I searched for a thread, honest.... :wink:, but not well enough.

Western,Klaas moved Shaniya's thread.It is now under Elizabeth Olten's.   ::MonkeyAngel::
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=60.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 04:06:33 PM
Tupelo....      ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2009, 06:23:27 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
In the beginning…
November 15, 2009 · 33 Comments
The following article is the first piece I wrote about Casey and Caylee Anthony. I published it on November 13 of last year. It doesn’t seem like it was a little over a year ago.
The search for Caylee takes a nose dive
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 15, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Caylee%20Anthony/caylee90-1.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 06:06:40 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: melisb on November 16, 2009, 08:49:37 AM
O.k., doing a little research here  http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682275.html) and found Gentamicin is either injected into a large muscle (I.e. the buttocks or hip) or as an IV fluid through a needle or catheter placed in a vein for at least 30 minutes 1-3 times a day.  Being that Caylee was a toddler, intramuscular would have been applicable.

Question: Where can I find the info (or link) to the Gentamicin prescription? Do we know why she was prescribed Gentamicin (as opposed to Penicillen, Amoxycillen, Erythromycin,etc.)?  From all indications I've read, this really wouldn't be the antibiotic of choice for: a toddler OR a simple urinary tract/ear infection.  Am I missing something here?   TIA

Don't remember a script for this.  Unpopular answer here...gent is commonly used in home health IV visits and if a patient had some left over I've seen some nurses take the leftovers home with them when needed for a sick fam member.  Don't shoot me it's true.  Sometimes on or two shots of gent will cure something when a whole script of regular antib's won't.  I've worked home health since 1993 and yes Gentiva.
I do hope you did the moral and ethical thing and reported them to local LE and the state board of nursing. This is an illegal act that you described. Practicing medicine without a license, diversion of a prescription medication and theft is nothing to be taken lightly. The public needs to be protected from these individuals who shed a dark shadow over an otherwise noble profession.

Sorry Blu I haven't been here in a couple of days to see your reply.  The one time I could actually prove that a nurse took meds from a pt's home I did report to my administrator which is the chain of command I have to follow and they did take action, family, DFACS, and police.  Yes she was dealt with severly.  It does happen though Blu.  Not something I am proud of but I guess it's the proverbial "office supplies nobody would miss" but in different form.  Not trying to be flip but only to compare it to something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 16, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
Good Morning Monks. I know we have some sick monks and I hope everyone recovers quickly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 10:58:46 AM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/goodmorning.gif) I hope everyone is doing ok this morning.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 11:08:45 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=675

Adipocere and DNA testing
November 14th, 2009

TUPELO, I read this report over and over several times. My hope is that KC had to do quite a bit of handling of Caylee's body, and I would think (graphic) by that time she would have been very slippery and hard to manipulate. My hope, my wish, my prayer is that she had to grab tightly and got some skins cells off of Caylee's poor little body at that point. I upset myself typing these words.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 16, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=675

Adipocere and DNA testing
November 14th, 2009

TUPELO, I read this report over and over several times. My hope is that KC had to do quite a bit of handling of Caylee's body, and I would think (graphic) by that time she would have been very slippery and hard to manipulate. My hope, my wish, my prayer is that she had to grab tightly and got some skins cells off of Caylee's poor little body at that point. I upset myself typing these words.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey Fanny!  If not Caylee's, at least her own cells, or better yet, a mixture of both. They have Caylee's death band hair so I'm hoping this adipocere links Casey. If she were wearing gloves, I don't see a need for wiping her hands.....just peel off the gloves and discard. And if there were gloves, why discard them and not the napkins? I guess it will boil down to just how much she handled the body for there to be any DNA. Say your prayers, I am.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
O/T

Shaniya's body has been found.  ::MonkeyWaa::


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6471.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 16, 2009, 02:38:35 PM
Probably posted already...sorry if it is a repeat. I am goung around in circles today

Kronk Scheduled For Deposition About Discovery Of Body
Monday, November 16, 2009 1:55:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The man who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains will be questioned under oath this week about the event.

Casey Anthony's lawyers plan to depose Roy Kronk on Thursday.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/16/kronk_scheduled_for_deposition_about_discovery_of_body.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
Thanks Nut.I was just about to post that too.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 02:59:11 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=675

Adipocere and DNA testing
November 14th, 2009

TUPELO, I read this report over and over several times. My hope is that KC had to do quite a bit of handling of Caylee's body, and I would think (graphic) by that time she would have been very slippery and hard to manipulate. My hope, my wish, my prayer is that she had to grab tightly and got some skins cells off of Caylee's poor little body at that point. I upset myself typing these words.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey Fanny!  If not Caylee's, at least her own cells, or better yet, a mixture of both. They have Caylee's death band hair so I'm hoping this adipocere links Casey. If she were wearing gloves, I don't see a need for wiping her hands.....just peel off the gloves and discard. And if there were gloves, why discard them and not the napkins? I guess it will boil down to just how much she handled the body for there to be any DNA. Say your prayers, I am.

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 16, 2009, 04:05:33 PM
The bad news is that Adipocere doesn't contain any DNA, ( as far as I know)it is only fat. The good news is that fat underlies skin, so there may be some skin cells in the substance on the towels, either from Caylee or Casey. If Casey wiped her messy hands on the towels  ::MonkeyGavel:: that would be just peachy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 16, 2009, 05:34:25 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 06:07:50 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21632064/detail.html
Child Care Complaint Sends DCF To Anthonys' Home
State Finds Concern 'Unfounded'

POSTED: 5:15 pm EST November 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:04 pm EST November 16, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state Department of Children and Families confirmed that officials visited George and Cindy Anthony Friday to follow up on a complaint about child care.

The couple's attorney called the complaint to DCF harassment of the parents of Casey Anthony.

Since Cindy Anthony said she was on some sort of disability, the man who emailed DCF said he wanted officials to see if the couple needed a license to babysit in their home. The man said he began concerned after seeing the Anthonys on a national news program.

On Friday, investigators visited George and Cindy Anthony at their home to see what kind of child care if any they were providing.

DCF’s Carrie Hoeppner said Cindy Anthony was very open with investigators and said she was “helping a friend who was between babysitters and that's OK.”

Hoeppner said the concerns were unfounded.

Orlando resident Bob Darrah declined an on camera interview, but told WESH 2 News that George Anthony's suicide attempt and Cindy Anthony being on some sort of disability raised his concern about the child's well-being. That’s why he contacted DCF.
“I would have done it for any similar situation," Darrah said. "I would not waste their time."

Cindy and George Anthony are the grandparents of Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in Orange County woods not far from their home. Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with her death and is scheduled to go on trial in 2010.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond in Orange County Jail.

The Anthonys' attorney Brad Conway said the couple is considering its legal options to deal with what it sees as harassment


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 16, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21632064/detail.html
Child Care Complaint Sends DCF To Anthonys' Home
State Finds Concern 'Unfounded'

POSTED: 5:15 pm EST November 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:04 pm EST November 16, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state Department of Children and Families confirmed that officials visited George and Cindy Anthony Friday to follow up on a complaint about child care.

The couple's attorney called the complaint to DCF harassment of the parents of Casey Anthony.

Since Cindy Anthony said she was on some sort of disability, the man who emailed DCF said he wanted officials to see if the couple needed a license to babysit in their home. The man said he began concerned after seeing the Anthonys on a national news program.

On Friday, investigators visited George and Cindy Anthony at their home to see what kind of child care if any they were providing.

DCF’s Carrie Hoeppner said Cindy Anthony was very open with investigators and said she was “helping a friend who was between babysitters and that's OK.”

Hoeppner said the concerns were unfounded.

Orlando resident Bob Darrah declined an on camera interview, but told WESH 2 News that George Anthony's suicide attempt and Cindy Anthony being on some sort of disability raised his concern about the child's well-being. That’s why he contacted DCF.
“I would have done it for any similar situation," Darrah said. "I would not waste their time."

Cindy and George Anthony are the grandparents of Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in Orange County woods not far from their home. Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with her death and is scheduled to go on trial in 2010.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond in Orange County Jail.

The Anthonys' attorney Brad Conway said the couple is considering its legal options to deal with what it sees as harassment

My question is- why is anyone releasing this concerned citizen's name to media? That will certainly deter people from calling in information to investigate families- there is an expectation of confidentiality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 16, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
Thanks for that update Trimm

Any time the Anthony's are questioned about anything they do or say, they are being harassed! GMAFB!!  I'm glad this person decided to contact DCF.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 16, 2009, 06:51:08 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyCool::

Oh good one Tupelo.

I hope that will all be in the NEXT doc dump. My fingernails are nibbled, something I don't normally do but don't you feel a bit like you come right up to the cliff edge every time the doc dump rolls around, and then.........a LOT of pages and only a LITTLE information- take a deep breath and  keep waiting!   I know they are playing with the defense, but stop doing it to me already!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
Thanks for that update Trimm

Any time the Anthony's are questioned about anything they do or say, they are being harassed! GMAFB!!  I'm glad this person decided to contact DCF.

To be a fly on the wall.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:20:54 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyCool::

Oh good one Tupelo.

I hope that will all be in the NEXT doc dump. My fingernails are nibbled, something I don't normally do but don't you feel a bit like you come right up to the cliff edge every time the doc dump rolls around, and then.........a LOT of pages and only a LITTLE information- take a deep breath and  keep waiting!   I know they are playing with the defense, but stop doing it to me already!   

I know what you mean. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 16, 2009, 07:21:58 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21632064/detail.html
Child Care Complaint Sends DCF To Anthonys' Home
State Finds Concern 'Unfounded'

POSTED: 5:15 pm EST November 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:04 pm EST November 16, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state Department of Children and Families confirmed that officials visited George and Cindy Anthony Friday to follow up on a complaint about child care.

The couple's attorney called the complaint to DCF harassment of the parents of Casey Anthony.

Since Cindy Anthony said she was on some sort of disability, the man who emailed DCF said he wanted officials to see if the couple needed a license to babysit in their home. The man said he began concerned after seeing the Anthonys on a national news program.

On Friday, investigators visited George and Cindy Anthony at their home to see what kind of child care if any they were providing.

DCF’s Carrie Hoeppner said Cindy Anthony was very open with investigators and said she was “helping a friend who was between babysitters and that's OK.”

Hoeppner said the concerns were unfounded.

Orlando resident Bob Darrah declined an on camera interview, but told WESH 2 News that George Anthony's suicide attempt and Cindy Anthony being on some sort of disability raised his concern about the child's well-being. That’s why he contacted DCF.
“I would have done it for any similar situation," Darrah said. "I would not waste their time."

Cindy and George Anthony are the grandparents of Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in Orange County woods not far from their home. Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with her death and is scheduled to go on trial in 2010.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond in Orange County Jail.

The Anthonys' attorney Brad Conway said the couple is considering its legal options to deal with what it sees as harassment
Uhm, all I can say is .....  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Roy-Kronk-to-be-deposed-by-prosecution-this-week
Casey Anthony case: Roy Kronk to be deposed by prosecution this week
November 16, 5:45 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams
The man who found the remains of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony almost one year ago, is scheduled to be deposed by the prosecution this week in the Casey Anthony case.

Casey is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee. The toddler's remains were found by utility worker, Roy Kronk, who entered a wooded area to relieve himself on Dec. 11, 2008.

Kronk had seen something suspicious in the area and alerted authorities three times before Caylee was finally discovered.

To read about Kronk's findings, click here.

Kronk was recently fired from his job for being excessively absent, according to CF News 13.
Kronk's interview...  http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d14-Casey-Anthony-case-Roy-Kronk-spots-suspicious-bag-in-wooded-area-one-year-ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:24:05 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-former-meter-reader-to-be-deposed-thursday.html
Casey Anthony: Former meter reader to be deposed Thursday; DCF investigates Cindy Anthony, finds nothing wrong
posted by halboedeker on Nov 16, 2009 6:22:10 PM
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Latest updates in the Casey Antony case:

***Her defense team plans to depose former meter reader Roy Kronk on Thursday, WFTV-Channel 9 and Central Florida News 13 reported today. Kronk found the remains of toddler Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her child.

***The Florida Department of Children and Families recently investigated Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, after a tip from a viewer, WFTV reported. The viewer was concerned that Cindy Anthony was accepting babysitting money while being on disability leave from a nursing job, but the department found she was "doing nothing wrong," WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:25:21 PM
JSM,I bet this wasn't the cameo Cin-cin had in mind.    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

TUPELO, you can even see the picture IN the bag without the pizza box.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never realized there were TWO bags from the car before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21632064/detail.html
Child Care Complaint Sends DCF To Anthonys' Home
State Finds Concern 'Unfounded'

POSTED: 5:15 pm EST November 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:04 pm EST November 16, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state Department of Children and Families confirmed that officials visited George and Cindy Anthony Friday to follow up on a complaint about child care.

The couple's attorney called the complaint to DCF harassment of the parents of Casey Anthony.

Since Cindy Anthony said she was on some sort of disability, the man who emailed DCF said he wanted officials to see if the couple needed a license to babysit in their home. The man said he began concerned after seeing the Anthonys on a national news program.

On Friday, investigators visited George and Cindy Anthony at their home to see what kind of child care if any they were providing.

DCF’s Carrie Hoeppner said Cindy Anthony was very open with investigators and said she was “helping a friend who was between babysitters and that's OK.”

Hoeppner said the concerns were unfounded.

Orlando resident Bob Darrah declined an on camera interview, but told WESH 2 News that George Anthony's suicide attempt and Cindy Anthony being on some sort of disability raised his concern about the child's well-being. That’s why he contacted DCF.
“I would have done it for any similar situation," Darrah said. "I would not waste their time."

Cindy and George Anthony are the grandparents of Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in Orange County woods not far from their home. Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with her death and is scheduled to go on trial in 2010.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond in Orange County Jail.

The Anthonys' attorney Brad Conway said the couple is considering its legal options to deal with what it sees as harassment
Uhm, all I can say is .....  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::

What JSM said!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/laugh3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 16, 2009, 07:52:50 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

TUPELO, you can even see the picture IN the bag without the pizza box.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never realized there were TWO bags from the car before.

OK- lead me to it!  I can't see any photo?  picture? in the bag on the left? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 07:53:07 PM
Thanks for that update Trimm

Any time the Anthony's are questioned about anything they do or say, they are being harassed! GMAFB!!  I'm glad this person decided to contact DCF.

What I would like to know who would leave their precious child with Spindy and Georgie?? There is no end of idiots in the world!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/MarymotherofGod.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 16, 2009, 07:56:02 PM
Thanks for that update Trimm

Any time the Anthony's are questioned about anything they do or say, they are being harassed! GMAFB!!  I'm glad this person decided to contact DCF.

To be a fly on the wall.   ::MonkeyCool::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Who would use Cindy even in a pinch to babysit?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:56:52 PM
Thanks for that update Trimm

Any time the Anthony's are questioned about anything they do or say, they are being harassed! GMAFB!!  I'm glad this person decided to contact DCF.

To be a fly on the wall.   ::MonkeyCool::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Who would use Cindy even in a pinch to babysit?

No way Jose.    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 07:58:48 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 16, 2009, 08:06:13 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::

Oh good- I'm usually the last to figure anything out.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 16, 2009, 08:24:14 PM
I read this on another forum.....does anyone know what the "911" means? Do we know if George threw a bag from the interior of the car into the dumpster as Simon Burch threw the bag from the trunk containing the pizza box?

I read the documents that were released on November 6, and I came across something interesting on page 10461, notations next to information about the daily max/min temperatures for July 15 and July 16:
July 15: "Dad 911 trashbags to dumpster"
July 16: "Bags out evid. 2300"
I would be willing to bet that investigators took the white bag from the dumpster that doesn't have the pizza box inside as evidence the same time they took the other, albeit they haven't released any information specifically in regard to that bag and its contents with documents that are available to the public.

From Cindy's SAO deposition:

Page 313:

Q: Was there anything hanging from the review mirror?

Cindy: Yeah. She keeps a shamrock or something else on the rearview mirror and I think some beads on there. She may even of had a picture of Caylee. I'm not sure. I know sometimes she did and sometimes she didn't.

I would be willing to bet that the picture of Caylee that Casey sometimes did and sometimes didn't have hanging from the rearview mirror is inside the white trash bag that doesn't contain the pizza box


Photo of two trash bags in the dumpster at the tow yard:  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/040609casephotosset2/1/lg/Trash_bag_0869208.htm

Page 10461 can be found here:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html

TUPELO, you can even see the picture IN the bag without the pizza box.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I never realized there were TWO bags from the car before.
Fanny, I didn't either. I read through Simon Burch's interview earlier and he makes no mention of another bag being tossed at that time. As a matter of fact, he thought the bag was white with yellow pull ties. But he did say that his trash bags were black w/red pull ties, that is how he knew what trash bag to look for when he went back, climbed in the dumpster in search of the bag. He always says bag, not making it plural.

Now in this report is clearly says bags, plural, and then the notation about Dad. I really don't want to go through George's interviews again. But photos don't lie, and there is no way LE could have staged anything as no one really knew what the heck was going on at the time.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 16, 2009, 08:31:36 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::
All the way over to the left, approximately half way down the bag, right above the orange coloring.  To me it looks as if it is a face of a little girl with dark hair and bangs. I asked my son to look at the image, he had no idea what he was looking at, and he thought it was a stuffed animal. So.....am I seeing what I want to see? IDK.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 16, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::
All the way over to the left, approximately half way down the bag, right above the orange coloring.  To me it looks as if it is a face of a little girl with dark hair and bangs. I asked my son to look at the image, he had no idea what he was looking at, and he thought it was a stuffed animal. So.....am I seeing what I want to see? IDK.

O.K.,I see where you are looking at now.It does look like a face.Thanks.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkeywink on November 16, 2009, 10:26:25 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::
All the way over to the left, approximately half way down the bag, right above the orange coloring.  To me it looks as if it is a face of a little girl with dark hair and bangs. I asked my son to look at the image, he had no idea what he was looking at, and he thought it was a stuffed animal. So.....am I seeing what I want to see? IDK.

To me it looks like a doll's face. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 16, 2009, 11:08:30 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::




(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cayleesandbox.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 06:29:14 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d16-Casey-Anthony-might-as-well-throw-in-the-towel-right-now

Casey Anthony might as well throw in the towel right now
November 16, 11:35 PMSpokane Homicide ExaminerDoyle Wheele


Casey Anthony might as well throw in towel right now.

Yes she can plead guilty now, or get herself a lawyer that at least knows the law.
Her lawyer filed a motion to dismiss her case based the fact that he said the prosecution filed three count on each of the four check charges. He claims this amounts to “double jeopardy.”


Wow is she in deep trouble, a lawyer that is clueless when it comes to the law. Prosecutors almost always charge multiple charges for each offense, they are called lesser included offenses counselor.


As for “double jeopardy” counselor, jeopardy doesn’t attach until the jury is sworn, or if a judge is hearing the case, then the opening remarks have been made. Since you’re not their yet counselor your argument is not only without merit it’s stupid!
Casey you might want to tell your attorney to look up legal terms before he uses them in worthless motions that waste the courts time. He likely took your case to make a name for himself, but it doesn't help you if the name he comes away with is "Mr. Incompetent."

Well one might suppose you could always use it on appeal saying that you had incompetent council.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 06:29:56 AM
Good Morning.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 07:20:53 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/16/kronk_scheduled_for_deposition_about_discovery_of_body.html

 Kronk Scheduled For Deposition About Discovery Of Body
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:54:01 AM
ORLANDO -- The man who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains will be questioned under oath this week about the event.

Casey Anthony's lawyers plan to depose Roy Kronk on Thursday.

Kronk was working as an Orange County meter reader when he found the child's remains in the woods near the Anthony family home last year.

Kronk called 911 three times beforehand to say he saw something suspicious in those woods.
He was recently fired from his job for being absent too many times.

The deposition is not the first time Kronk has made statements about finding the toddler's body. You can see them here:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 17, 2009, 08:40:10 AM
Good Morning.   ::MonkeyBike::

Good Morning Monks! ::Baseball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 08:45:29 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/breaking-will-the-father-of-caylee-anthony-be-revealed-and-will-he-be-key-witness/

BREAKING: WILL THE FATHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY BE REVEALED? AND WILL HE BE KEY WITNESS?

By Steph

Last night Linda Kenney Baden, one of Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys, joined me as a guest on my radio show. Also joining me was her husband — renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Near the end of the show, I asked Linda a question that had been on my mind for a while about the Casey Anthony case. I wanted to know her thoughts on whether the defense team or prosecutors had an interest in who the father of little Caylee Anthony is? And, if so, would this person testify at trial? She paused and said, “That’s a question to ask the prosecutors.” Then Dr. Baden jumped in saying he could answer the question because he’s not involved in the case. He said they ABSOLUTLEY know who the father is, through forensics, and that we will more than likely hear from this person at trial (IF he is alive and able to testify).

To date, no one in the public knows who the father is. The Anthonys have rightfully skirted the question — it’s actually none of our business — which has only fueled speculation. It is, however, of interest to investigators – and only DNA will tell the truth as to the identity of Caylee Anthony’s father. In my mind, here’s how this person could change the case, at least create reasonable doubt for jurors. We know Casey Anthony had no money; she was so desperate she allegedly was stealing from her mother and her friend Amy Huizenga. (She is charged with check fraud for using Amy’s checks.) So it makes sense that she would contact the father of Caylee for child support. Seems like a no-brainer for any unemployed mother of a young child. This opens up an opportunity for the defense to present the father as having a motive to get rid of little Caylee. No one in the public knows his identity. Perhaps he was being asked to pay support for a child who’s life, as a far as we know to date, he had no part in. It’s not far fetched. I have a call into prosecutors to get a response to this, and I will update when (if) they respond. I think this is interesting. STAY TUNED AND please weigh in. You can listen to the Linda Kenney Baden, in it’s entirety at blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 08:48:15 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 09:30:10 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 17, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
Casey Anthony might as well throw in the towel right now

Casey Anthony might as well throw in towel right now.

Yes she can plead guilty now, or get herself a lawyer that at least knows the law.
Her lawyer filed a motion to dismiss her case based the fact that he said the prosecution filed three count on each of the four check charges. He claims this amounts to “double jeopardy.”


Wow is she in deep trouble, a lawyer that is clueless when it comes to the law. Prosecutors almost always charge multiple charges for each offense, they are called lesser included offenses counselor.


As for “double jeopardy” counselor, jeopardy doesn’t attach until the jury is sworn, or if a judge is hearing the case, then the opening remarks have been made. Since you’re not their yet counselor your argument is not only without merit it’s stupid!

Casey you might want to tell your attorney to look up legal terms before he uses them in worthless motions that waste the courts time. He likely took your case to make a name for himself, but it doesn't help you if the name he comes away with is "Mr. Incompetent."

Well one might suppose you could always use it on appeal saying that you had incompetent council.

 http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d16-Casey-Anthony-might-as-well-throw-in-the-towel-right-now



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 17, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

 ::MonkeyCool::  Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SloSthrnStyle on November 17, 2009, 12:05:37 PM
Im going thru these pictures of the trash......something that strikes me odd.....for the car to smell like "spoiled food"  shouldnt there be some?  I expected to see pizza..crust...meat..something...all I see is containers..but nothing that really looks like food.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 17, 2009, 12:06:08 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 12:18:11 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/breaking-will-the-father-of-caylee-anthony-be-revealed-and-will-he-be-key-witness/

BREAKING: WILL THE FATHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY BE REVEALED? AND WILL HE BE KEY WITNESS?

By Steph

Last night Linda Kenney Baden, one of Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys, joined me as a guest on my radio show. Also joining me was her husband — renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Near the end of the show, I asked Linda a question that had been on my mind for a while about the Casey Anthony case. I wanted to know her thoughts on whether the defense team or prosecutors had an interest in who the father of little Caylee Anthony is? And, if so, would this person testify at trial? She paused and said, “That’s a question to ask the prosecutors.” Then Dr. Baden jumped in saying he could answer the question because he’s not involved in the case. He said they ABSOLUTLEY know who the father is, through forensics, and that we will more than likely hear from this person at trial (IF he is alive and able to testify).

To date, no one in the public knows who the father is. The Anthonys have rightfully skirted the question — it’s actually none of our business — which has only fueled speculation. It is, however, of interest to investigators – and only DNA will tell the truth as to the identity of Caylee Anthony’s father. In my mind, here’s how this person could change the case, at least create reasonable doubt for jurors. We know Casey Anthony had no money; she was so desperate she allegedly was stealing from her mother and her friend Amy Huizenga. (She is charged with check fraud for using Amy’s checks.) So it makes sense that she would contact the father of Caylee for child support. Seems like a no-brainer for any unemployed mother of a young child. This opens up an opportunity for the defense to present the father as having a motive to get rid of little Caylee. No one in the public knows his identity. Perhaps he was being asked to pay support for a child who’s life, as a far as we know to date, he had no part in. It’s not far fetched. I have a call into prosecutors to get a response to this, and I will update when (if) they respond. I think this is interesting. STAY TUNED AND please weigh in. You can listen to the Linda Kenney Baden, in it’s entirety at blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This

 

Hey Tupelo.   ::MonkeyDance::  Thanks for the update.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 12:19:55 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I got time...we'll watch .    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 12:21:56 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tina Bee on November 17, 2009, 12:36:29 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

That's a really good article. It gives possible insight into what happened that night Lee went looking for Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 17, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

That's a really good article. It gives possible insight into what happened that night Lee went looking for Casey.
Thor posting this! very interesting and informal, gives you more of ! this could be a possible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 17, 2009, 01:19:10 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

That's a really good article. It gives possible insight into what happened that night Lee went looking for Casey.
thanks is what I meant to say not thor! hey I am on my first cup of coffee what can I say! good morning monkeys and a special shout out to fanny and the rest of you awesome monkeys.
Thor posting this! very interesting and informal, gives you more of ! this could be a possible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 17, 2009, 01:25:24 PM
Dear Monkeys
Do you honestly believe that casey knew who the baby daddy was? I dont know because she had such an active sex life with different partners! could she actualy pin point who he was? And we all know aside from that! casey never told the truth. For all we know he may still be alive and in the total dark about being the daddy of a murdered child. Just a curious me as to what yall think on this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: AnnetteInMn on November 17, 2009, 01:46:11 PM
Western,I can't find the picture either.   ::MonkeyCool::
All the way over to the left, approximately half way down the bag, right above the orange coloring.  To me it looks as if it is a face of a little girl with dark hair and bangs. I asked my son to look at the image, he had no idea what he was looking at, and he thought it was a stuffed animal. So.....am I seeing what I want to see? IDK.

I don't know if you're seeing what you want to see or not but I definitely think it appears to be a face of some sort.  I can't tell if it's a picture or a doll or maybe just a bunch of unrelated trash mixed together to look like something.  Maybe it's God way of allowing Caylee to send a message saying "my mom threw me away like this trash" .  I really don't know.  I cropped out that section of the picture and I can zoom in but it seems the further away you are from it the more the face outline appears.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 17, 2009, 02:01:23 PM
Hi, all ...

Probably my eyes playing tricks on me but I see a face too. Looks like a little girl smiling. I think it is just the light reflecting off the trash bag.  ::MonkeyWaa::

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/trashbag.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cherjers on November 17, 2009, 02:45:36 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045
good morning monkeys  -Dr. Baden is losing it--you cant match DNA unless you have someone to match it to--In other words you have to have soemone you think is the father-get his DNA and match it.  So the police could not know who the father is-unless they have the fathers DNA-Its not Lee not George who else gave DNA ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 17, 2009, 03:27:33 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/breaking-will-the-father-of-caylee-anthony-be-revealed-and-will-he-be-key-witness/

BREAKING: WILL THE FATHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY BE REVEALED? AND WILL HE BE KEY WITNESS?

By Steph

Last night Linda Kenney Baden, one of Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys, joined me as a guest on my radio show. Also joining me was her husband — renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Near the end of the show, I asked Linda a question that had been on my mind for a while about the Casey Anthony case. I wanted to know her thoughts on whether the defense team or prosecutors had an interest in who the father of little Caylee Anthony is? And, if so, would this person testify at trial? She paused and said, “That’s a question to ask the prosecutors.” Then Dr. Baden jumped in saying he could answer the question because he’s not involved in the case. He said they ABSOLUTLEY know who the father is, through forensics, and that we will more than likely hear from this person at trial (IF he is alive and able to testify).

To date, no one in the public knows who the father is. The Anthonys have rightfully skirted the question — it’s actually none of our business — which has only fueled speculation. It is, however, of interest to investigators – and only DNA will tell the truth as to the identity of Caylee Anthony’s father. In my mind, here’s how this person could change the case, at least create reasonable doubt for jurors. We know Casey Anthony had no money; she was so desperate she allegedly was stealing from her mother and her friend Amy Huizenga. (She is charged with check fraud for using Amy’s checks.) So it makes sense that she would contact the father of Caylee for child support. Seems like a no-brainer for any unemployed mother of a young child. This opens up an opportunity for the defense to present the father as having a motive to get rid of little Caylee. No one in the public knows his identity. Perhaps he was being asked to pay support for a child who’s life, as a far as we know to date, he had no part in. It’s not far fetched. I have a call into prosecutors to get a response to this, and I will update when (if) they respond. I think this is interesting. STAY TUNED AND please weigh in. You can listen to the Linda Kenney Baden, in it’s entirety at blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This

JMO but I think Dr. Baden is full of chit!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 17, 2009, 03:28:27 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Thanks tupelo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: jill on November 17, 2009, 03:41:47 PM
I think it's humorous how the silly Scamthonys have surrounded themselves with equally silly folk.

What a joke.

If Caylee had a daddy who was known, he (or if deceased his family) would most likely already be known.

After all, there is still a boatload of $$$ to be made off of this little tyke.  Unchartered territories.  Untapped fields of gold.

And if he or his family are not the scavenging sort, then most likely he would be considered Caylee's next of kin - and one of them would've stepped up to the plate when Caylee's body sat in the strip mall funeral home for those many weeks.

I just don't see it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 04:13:08 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Every time I have to leave,I come back and you have me a present.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCheer4::  It is crazy at my house today.   ::MonkeyDevil::   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 17, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045
good morning monkeys  -Dr. Baden is losing it--you cant match DNA unless you have someone to match it to--In other words you have to have soemone you think is the father-get his DNA and match it.  So the police could not know who the father is-unless they have the fathers DNA-Its not Lee not George who else gave DNA ::MonkeyConfused::

I dunno who else's DNA has been collected- but that is exactly what he said. He did not say 'the Police know who was NOT the daddy because A B and C have been excluded'. He said they know from DNA testing who is the father. I hope he's not confused. That made me think it was M Hawkins from CA.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:17:56 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Thanks TUPELO! You always find us the best little gems.  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 05:11:04 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21642299/detail.html
Kronk To Be Deposed Thursday
Former Meter Reader Found Remains Of Slain Toddler, Caylee Anthony

POSTED: 4:16 pm EST November 17, 2009
UPDATED: 4:39 pm EST November 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The former meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains is scheduled to be questioned under oath Thursday morning by prosecutors and Casey Anthony's defense.

Roy Kronk believes he saw a bag containing Caylee's remains in August of last year, but deputies responding to the scene dismissed his suspicions.

Kronk went back and found the remains himself Dec. 11 of last year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on first-degree murder charges related to the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 05:54:21 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Every time I have to leave,I come back and you have me a present.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCheer4::  It is crazy at my house today.   ::MonkeyDevil::   ::MonkeyKiss::
I hope your day settles down for you.

Why do you suppose the area has been cleared at this time?  To keep it from getting too overgrown for a possible field trip for the jurors some day, did Dr. James W. Jawitz pay a visit? Inquiring minds, at least mine, want to know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 05:58:40 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Thanks TUPELO! You always find us the best little gems.  ::MonkeyCheer2::
TY Fanny!  I try to help in keeping us all informed on every little thing out there on this case, as many others here do, as well. Even if it's disputable, all these pieces of info give us things to ponder. Can you tell I'm addicted to this case?  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 06:33:43 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Every time I have to leave,I come back and you have me a present.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCheer4::  It is crazy at my house today.   ::MonkeyDevil::   ::MonkeyKiss::
I hope your day settles down for you.

Why do you suppose the area has been cleared at this time?  To keep it from getting too overgrown for a possible field trip for the jurors some day, did Dr. James W. Jawitz pay a visit? Inquiring minds, at least mine, want to know!

I wondered about the property being cleared too.Maybe the good Dr. will pay a visit.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 06:44:35 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21642299/detail.html
Kronk To Be Deposed Thursday
Former Meter Reader Found Remains Of Slain Toddler, Caylee Anthony

POSTED: 4:16 pm EST November 17, 2009
UPDATED: 4:39 pm EST November 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The former meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains is scheduled to be questioned under oath Thursday morning by prosecutors and Casey Anthony's defense.

Roy Kronk believes he saw a bag containing Caylee's remains in August of last year, but deputies responding to the scene dismissed his suspicions.

Kronk went back and found the remains himself Dec. 11 of last year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on first-degree murder charges related to the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee

Both the State and the defense are going to question him? Is that right, or will Baez just be listening in. You know, as in "It's the State's depo, I really can't comment" kind of thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 06:46:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21642299/detail.html
Kronk To Be Deposed Thursday
Former Meter Reader Found Remains Of Slain Toddler, Caylee Anthony

POSTED: 4:16 pm EST November 17, 2009
UPDATED: 4:39 pm EST November 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The former meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains is scheduled to be questioned under oath Thursday morning by prosecutors and Casey Anthony's defense.

Roy Kronk believes he saw a bag containing Caylee's remains in August of last year, but deputies responding to the scene dismissed his suspicions.

Kronk went back and found the remains himself Dec. 11 of last year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on first-degree murder charges related to the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee

Both the State and the defense are going to question him? Is that right, or will Baez just be listening in. You know, as in "It's the State's depo, I really can't comment" kind of thing.

Well, he sure told Spindy to "Zip it!" during her state depo.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 17, 2009, 10:17:13 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2009/11/orlando-news-media-without-casey.html
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Orlando News Media Without Casey Anthony

Over the past one year plus as the murder of little two year old Caylee Anthony, allegedly, at the hands of her own deranged mother - Casey has made national and international headlines, media outlets in the Orlando, Florida area have found themselves at the forefront of a long and drawn out case of murder. Before the world heard the name Caylee or Casey Anthony, Orlando news media outlets like the "Orlando Sentinel" and TV stations like WESH had seldom been heard from outside their local areas of news coverage.

However, the sensational upcoming murder trial of Casey Anthony sometime early next year - will, once again, push the writers at the "Orlando Sentinel" and local TV reporters from WESH TV back into the national spotlight as the Casey Anthony murder trial gets underway. While it will be nice for the Orlando news media to bask in the light of national and international attention as Casey Anthony murder trial moves forward, there will come a day sometime in 2010 that reporters in the Orlando area will move away from their daily coverage of the Casey Anthony story and return to more mundane local coverage of traffic accidents, random murders and yes the prospect of job additions and cuts at Disney World.

From a personal point of view - I can relate to what is happening right now in the Orlando, Florida news media. I live in Waco, Texas and everyone remembers what happened here back in the early 1990's. At that time, the local Waco, Texas news media was also used to fill in many of the gaps in the David Koresh story, which was front page news around the world for several weeks. In Orlando - the build up to the Casey Anthony murder trial is lasting
much longer than the short standoff that brought Waco, Texas into the media spotlight over one decade ago. However, just like here in Waco - the Orlando news media will, at some time in the near future, go back to a life a normalcy.

After David Koresh went up in flames at the Branch Davidian compound back in the early 1990's - life in Waco, Texas went pretty much back to normal until President Bush decided to make his home in Crawford, Texas just a few miles to the west of our city. While the Bush presidency lasted for eight years - if you ask most people in the world what they think of when they hear the name Waco, Texas - you will get the answer David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. In that same way, even decades from now - when Orland, Florida is mentioned to people around the world - the first thing they will think of will be Casey Anthony and the murder of her two year old daughter Caylee.

Posted by Mark Hutcherson at 12:07 AM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 17, 2009, 11:05:39 PM
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Yes, I am happy to answer questions….

Posted in 1 by billsheaffer on November 17, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Tina Bee on November 18, 2009, 01:06:25 AM
Dear Monkeys
Do you honestly believe that casey knew who the baby daddy was? I dont know because she had such an active sex life with different partners! could she actualy pin point who he was? And we all know aside from that! casey never told the truth. For all we know he may still be alive and in the total dark about being the daddy of a murdered child. Just a curious me as to what yall think on this?

I have always wondered who in the world fathered Caylee. The fact that this matter hasn't been indepthly discussed by Nancy Grace surprises me. Yes she's asked, but the subject is always quickly dropped.

In my mind I think Casey knows exactly who fathered her daughter. I don't think she's that stupid. Whoever he is I bet he's someone well known to her family.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 05:15:47 AM
Good Morning.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 05:18:30 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d17-Is-Casey-Anthonys-family-trying-to-build-a-resonable-doubt-case
Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a resonable doubt case?
November 17, 8:26 PMSpokane Homicide ExaminerDoyle Wheele

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?
Is her first attorney at the heart of what amounts to a conspiracy to obstruct justice by carefully constructing, while at the same time giving instructions to family members on how to build a reasonable doubt defense?

If you look at her conduct in the month prior the family reporting that Caylee was missing, it’s hard to understand or swallow Casey’s claim that some phantom babysitter kidnapped Caylee.

First you start with her deplorable conduct, then comes the whole impossible to swallow or believe  kidnapping. Next she starts lying to the police about working?  Along comes the decomposition, followed by her unexplainable Internet searches. Now before long a case that is in part circumstantial evidence starts firming up for the 1st degree murder of "the little brat," as Casey described Caylee in her own words.

But this is not a strictly circumstantial case by any means. The defense wants to wish away the physical evidence by trying to pooh-pooh it as being inconclusive, it doesn’t work like that counselor.

But, counselor you will get a chance to attack it in court, like the law allows.

When a defense attorney starts throwing up smoke screens with frivolous motions attacking the case in the media before the trial begins it is the attorney’s attempt to plant the idea in the jury pools minds that poor Casey is being railroaded.
It’s a text book defense strategy 101, but it can backfire and burn the client.  The judge will only put up with so many baseless motions then you’ll get a judge that is predisposed to send the defense attorney back to their chairs very unhappy throughout the trial.

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?

It’s possible that when an attorney has a client that they know is guilty as sin, they have to pull out every stop in an attempt to get lucky and derail the prosecution, it works very well sometimes. 

The OJ Simpson dream team tossed it all up against the wall and hoped a few things would stick. Guess what it worked rather well. The overmatched prosecution team were so out gunned.

The prosecutors in the OJ case walked into every trap the defense laid and each time the landmine blew up in their face. But at the end of the day they all got their book deals, as they will in this case, win or lose.

When the client is guilty as sin an attorney will do anything they can to go after that one or two jurors that they can hang the jury with.

They only have too hang the jury on average twice and the case goes away because the prosecutor is afraid they will be seen as pushing a vendetta against the poor girl.

One strategy you can’t rule out is: lets go ahead and anger the judge, it’s more likely the judge will make a mistake if they are angry. If the they get made and make blunder they have reversible error for an appeal to get a new trial.
The more times they can get a case retried the better the odds of the defense winning.
 

There is more evidence but with not being directly involved in the case it forces you to wait until the trial (s), for the prosecution to present all their evidence in court.

It’s easy to prejudge her and say she looks guilty as hell! Proving that in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt is another kettle of fish I’m afraid.
 

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?
 

Here is where the case starts getting interesting. Most attorneys will shut their client down immediately, having them exercise their right to remain silent, not in this case.

Casey’s lawyer let her blab on and on using the jail phone. He knew those phones were being recorded. When you analyze all of the statements made, by mommy dearest(AKA Casey), her mother, father, and brother you come away saying what exactly is going on? 
 

OK the mom is a little off kilter maybe she had some involvement with her daughter?

Then you're listen to the brother that seems to be helping the police, but before they're finished talking you're shaking your head going wait a minute did he do something?

Next it's daddy's turn to have a break down, word is leaked about a possible suicide attempt. Wow, suddenly you start going is he involved in some way that he’s acting out of guilt?
Answer “yes,” they’re all involved, not in the murder, but in the attempt to muddy the water so much that a jury goes "well I don't know it seems like reasonable doubt to me!"
That is exactly what is going on here, the person driving the engine from day one has been her first attorney. Can it be called an effective defensive strategy? Absolutely,  but can it be also called a conspiracy to obstruct justice?

It may very well be, that at some point the prosecutor may say "I think it's time we charged the whole darn bunch of you, including you Mr. attorney with a conspiracy to obstruct justice."
 

It’s easy to see parents wanting to protect their only daughter. But protect her from justice in the brutal murder of your own grand-daughter you profess to love so much?

Lie through your teeth to obstruct justice in an attempt to secure your daughters freedom?
 

So as the world the turns in the soap opera that is the Casey Anthony show!
Watch for the next story by this Examiner: Have Casey Anthony & Drew Peterson developed a certain amount of “Star Power?”
Only in America can you become a celebrity when accused of murdering your innocent child or of killing couple of your wives!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 05:27:12 AM
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Yes, I am happy to answer questions….
A number of you have asked whether I would be answering questions on this new blog.  Actually, I would love to answer them all.  But practically, that is not possible.  Further, believe me when I tell you this is newnewnew for me and I have no interns, moderators, content examiners, etc.  My marching orders were: write a blog.  I will get with the WFTV people about, our progress,  expectations and the possibility of, or the need for, moderator(s) at some point.  Until I do, it is what it is.  So, I will try to pick out some questions that I get most frequently here and elsewhere, as well as those that frankly, appeal to me.  That is the fun part of doing this.  Again, I am requesting that we continue to make this a good and civil place.  I really do NOT want to make rules for this site if I don’t have to.  My profession has rules, guidelines, ethics/codes of conduct  and procedures aplenty.  Again WFTV may elect to put a moderator of sorts in place in the future.  I hope not.  I would rather see whether we can have a free exchange of ideas all by ourselves, without police action.  What say you?

So, on to a question from Brenda aka Rileysmom:  “What would be the grounds that the Defense could use to tear Amy apart in Casey’s check forgery trial?”

ANSWER:  The traditional, or textbook method of cross-examining a victim/witness on the stand,  is to attack her on the basis of any bias, interest or motive she might have in testifying as she will.  Further, although a stretch, the Defense may try to show that Amy somehow participated in Casey’s crime and received some benefit herself.  As I say, a stretch at the least, and an act of desperation at worst.  And remember, the burden of proof  is on the Prosecution to prove the case to the jury through admissible evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt.  So the Defense will likely challenge the legal admissibility of any evidence offered by the Prosecution.  You should know that the Defense will have taken the pretrial depositions (sworn statements under oath) of all witnesses with any knowledge
of these charges.  From those depositions, the Defense is able to learn what, if any, actual defense they have, that has a credible chance before a jury.  Under normal circumstances, this kind of case would not be one that a defense lawyer would take to trial.  Instead, most lawyers would try to work out a plea deal.  But, because of the potential negative ramifications a plea disposition of this case would have to the murder case, that may not be considered by the Defense to be a realistic resolution of the fraud/forgery case.

There is an old defense lawyer adage:  when you don’t have the law on your side, argue the facts; when you don’t have the facts on your side, argue the law; when you have neither, attach the Prosecutor; failing that; pray for a miracle.  I would imagine the Defense is doing a lot of praying on this one.

Until next time, I’ll keep looking for your questions and comments.   So thanks for making it easier and more enjoyable for me by cutting back on negativity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 06:17:04 AM
 Good Morning Trimm and all Monkeys!

I listened to this radio interview with LKB and her husband Michael Baden. At the very end M. Baden states that because of the DNA from Caylee, they have the fathers DNA, but that does not necessarily mean they know who the father is, without having that man’s DNA, IMO. Maybe with all of the men that have been questioned in this case, a DNA test was run by those that agreed and they do know who the father is, but I really think this is just the latest defense strategy being put out there. I think they are once again reaching to place doubt, but from what I can tell, if this is true, we won’t be hearing about this until the trial. But again, this does not explain the Zanny story that Casey seems to be sticking to. If she changes her story, will she not have to take the stand to explain this scenario, providing the State does not bring up this issue?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 06:47:59 AM
Good Morning Trimm and all Monkeys!

I listened to this radio interview with LKB and her husband Michael Baden. At the very end M. Baden states that because of the DNA from Caylee, they have the fathers DNA, but that does not necessarily mean they know who the father is, without having that man’s DNA, IMO. Maybe with all of the men that have been questioned in this case, a DNA test was run by those that agreed and they do know who the father is, but I really think this is just the latest defense strategy being put out there. I think they are once again reaching to place doubt, but from what I can tell, if this is true, we won’t be hearing about this until the trial. But again, this does not explain the Zanny story that Casey seems to be sticking to. If she changes her story, will she not have to take the stand to explain this scenario, providing the State does not bring up this issue?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

Interesting.I can't see her ever taking the stand,but if she did I would like to see all of her her "friends" sitting on the front row.
I am with you.They are grasping at anything they can.
All I have to say is.....    ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 06:52:50 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/18/baez_talks_with_news_13_about_his_defense_strategy.html

 Baez Talks Defense Strategy With News 13
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:59:18 AM
Reported By Adam Longo

KISSIMMEE -- We're getting a better idea of the strategies Casey Anthony's lawyers will use when her murder case heads to court.

News 13's Adam Longo spoke exclusively with Jose Baez about their defense as one of the biggest murder trials in Orange County history gets closer.

An Osceola County man, who was accused of murder, walked out of court a free man last Monday. His lawyer was Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's lawyer. News 13 talked to Baez to try to learn what tactics he employed in the courtroom in this case that he might also use in the case of a mother accused of killing her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

"The only thing I remember when I wake up, I was in the hospital, and the next thing I know, the next day I was in jail," said Rafael Contreras, who was acquitted of attempted murder.

Contreras has two young daughters. He used to be a truck driver. In February 2008 he was thrown in jail for attempted first degree murder. He spent 20 months in jail and got out on Monday.

"I feel like .. it's really unbelievable," Contreras said.

"I saw a lot of problems with the state's case," Baez said.

Contreras'  family hired Baez last summer after firing their first attorney. Contreras proclaimed his innocence and rejected a plea deal from the state.

"They asked him, 'The offer is 20 years in prison, do you want to take it?'  His answer was no. ... He's facing life," Baez said.

In court, the state argued Contreras had been thrown out of a Kissimmee bar, returned with a gun and shot the owner. the prosecution had eight eyewitnesses, but Baez and his team broke down the state's case piece by piece.
He showed the jury a side-by-side photo of Contreras (see slideshow in this story), who had been severely beaten, and his alleged target, who did not appear in the photo to be as badly injured. The defense asked, "Who's really the victim?"

The defense told the jury Contreras was beaten severely by other men inside the bar, and that the man who was shot set the whole thing up after learning Contreras was having an affair with his wife.

The defense highlighted an expert who said the alleged target's wound was consistent with being self-inflicted. Forensic scientists pointed to blood spatter evidence as proof the man was lying.

"You always put your heart and soul into a case and I don't think the arguments would be as persuasive if you didn't," Baez told Longo.

The defense had thousands of pictures, charts, graphs, a picture of a muzzle burn on the alleged victim's face that they said was self-inflicted.
 
During his 20 months in jail, Contreras said it was Baez who kept his spirits up.

"Well, I was down and he was always giving me hope, like, 'Don't worry, trust me, everything's going to come out OK," Contreras said.

"These people put their lives in your hand and they trust in you and that's not something you should take lightly," Baez said.

What's next for Contreras?
"Trying to get my job back, start from zero," Contreras said.

Contreras now has his life back. He said his faith kept him strong.

"I put my hope in the Lord and him [Baez] that he's going to do the right job, and he did. We came out with the victory," Contreras said.

As a prelude to the approaching trial of Casey Anthony, Baez told News 13 that with her, and with all of his clients, if the state wants to convict his clients, they will have to work harder than they ever have before.

Baez client set free.   http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=baezclients_111720090759&cat=CAC&title=Baez%E2%80%99s%20Client%20Set%20Free
Slide Show   http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/18/baez_talks_with_news_13_about_his_defense_strategy.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 07:48:04 AM
I'm glad that Baez got Mr. Contreras off, but Casey's case is a whole different story. I believe the State has done their job and we will see a different outcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 08:16:39 AM
By justfoolinaround2
November 16, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/v/db8UuW5qXYs&hl=en_US&fs=1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 08:19:02 AM
I'm glad that Baez got Mr. Contreras off, but Casey's case is a whole different story. I believe the State has done their job and we will see a different outcome.

If you read very long about cases like Mr Contreras you realize there is a HUGE difference between being innocent of the crime and being able to get off scot free. Inadmissible evidence, technicalities favor the defendant. There are a lot of criminals out there thanks to Mr Baez' efforts, I am sure. That is his goal- to get people off. Innocence has nothing to do with it.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 08:34:32 AM
Good Morning Everybody! (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/2-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 08:44:35 AM
I think this whole thing of the Badens bringing up to bio father of Caylee and the DNA is just the smoke screen de jour. We have seen "Zannie did it", ugly coping, sightings across the country, Caylee's not dead she's in Puerto Rico, Jesse did it, no, Ricardo did it, maybe it was Amy. anorexia, bullemia, .........

Throw it on the wall to see what sticks! So far, nothing's stuck. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
I think this whole thing of the Badens bringing up to bio father of Caylee and the DNA is just the smoke screen de jour. We have seen "Zannie did it", ugly coping, sightings across the country, Caylee's not dead she's in Puerto Rico, Jesse did it, no, Ricardo did it, maybe it was Amy. anorexia, bullemia, .........

Throw it on the wall to see what sticks! So far, nothing's stuck. JMO

Ugly coping was one of my personal favorites.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 09:22:04 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/os-casey-anthony-meter-reader-questioned-20091118,0,2118885.story
Casey Anthony's attorneys to question former meter reade
8:01 a.m. EST, November 18, 2009

The former Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains last December will be questioned by the defense Thursday, according to WFTV.com

Roy Kronk, who has since been fired from him position with the county, is credited with discovering the skeletal remains in a wooded area less than a mile from the Anthony family home in east Orange County. Kronk tried three times to report the suspicious bag to authorities.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her toddler who was 2-year-old when she was last seen alive. Casey Anthony said she waited 31 days before calling police to help look for her daughter who had allegedly been kidnapped by a babysitter.

To read the story, go to http://www.wftv.com/news/21637200/detail.html.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 18, 2009, 10:07:23 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/

New Video of Suburban Drive: Same Time Last Year
November 17, 2009

Thanks - always interesting videos of his.   It really gives a clear bird's eye view of everything in relation to everything!  [ He's witty also - lol ]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 18, 2009, 10:11:36 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045
good morning monkeys  -Dr. Baden is losing it--you cant match DNA unless you have someone to match it to--In other words you have to have soemone you think is the father-get his DNA and match it.  So the police could not know who the father is-unless they have the fathers DNA-Its not Lee not George who else gave DNA ::MonkeyConfused::

I dunno who else's DNA has been collected- but that is exactly what he said. He did not say 'the Police know who was NOT the daddy because A B and C have been excluded'. He said they know from DNA testing who is the father. I hope he's not confused. That made me think it was M Hawkins from CA.   

WS - I also remember it as you stated.  I thought of Mark Hawkins as well, as didn't LE travel out to CA to see him?  It's reasonable to think a DNA swab was possibly part of their visit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 18, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Yes, I am happy to answer questions….

Posted in 1 by billsheaffer on November 17, 2009


Mr. Sheaffer is a gem!!!    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=701

The Jay Blanchard Park Scenario

November 18th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cookie on November 18, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
By justfoolinaround2
November 16, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/v/db8UuW5qXYs&hl=en_US&fs=1




that is fricking hilarious!!! thanks for giving me a good laugh today...much needed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 11:31:37 AM
O/T  Amber Alert     http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6534.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 11:52:56 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-central-florida-news-13-studies-jose-baezs-legal-approach.html
Casey Anthony: Central Florida News 13 studies Jose Baez's legal approach
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 11:18:29 AM
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A Jose Baez client was acquitted of attempted murder this week in Kissimmee. Central Florida News 13 used that story to explore how the attorney defends clients, including Casey Anthony. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

Reporter Adam Longo concluded the report by stating this vow from Baez: "With all of his clients, in fact, he says if the state wants to convict his clients, they'll have to work harder than they ever have before."

Rafael Contreras, a former truck driver, spent 20 months in jail. He was charged with the attempted first-degree murder of a bar owner. Eight eyewitnesses said they saw Contreras shoot the man.

But Baez's team spotted problems with the case: Contreras had been beaten severely while the supposed victim had not. Baez's team noted that the supposed victim's wound was consistent with being self-inflicted. The alleged victim had set up the attack to get back at Contreras.

Contreras praised Baez for keeping his spirits up. "When I was down, he always was giving me hope. 'Don't worry, Trust me,' " he said.

"These people put their lives in your hand, and they trust in you," Baez said. "That's not something you take lightly."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 11:58:26 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=701

The Jay Blanchard Park Scenario

November 18th, 2009

Don't you just love that site? What a great investigation she does on that theory>>   ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 18, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-central-florida-news-13-studies-jose-baezs-legal-approach.html
Casey Anthony: Central Florida News 13 studies Jose Baez's legal approach
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 11:18:29 AM
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A Jose Baez client was acquitted of attempted murder this week in Kissimmee. Central Florida News 13 used that story to explore how the attorney defends clients, including Casey Anthony. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

Reporter Adam Longo concluded the report by stating this vow from Baez: "With all of his clients, in fact, he says if the state wants to convict his clients, they'll have to work harder than they ever have before."

Rafael Contreras, a former truck driver, spent 20 months in jail. He was charged with the attempted first-degree murder of a bar owner. Eight eyewitnesses said they saw Contreras shoot the man.

But Baez's team spotted problems with the case: Contreras had been beaten severely while the supposed victim had not. Baez's team noted that the supposed victim's wound was consistent with being self-inflicted. The alleged victim had set up the attack to get back at Contreras.

Contreras praised Baez for keeping his spirits up. "When I was down, he always was giving me hope. 'Don't worry, Trust me,' " he said.

"These people put their lives in your hand, and they trust in you," Baez said. "That's not something you take lightly."


  Crabpuffs  all around!!! Not.          STHU Baez, I don't care.   ::MonkeyDevil::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
mizjay...    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 18, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
mizjay...    ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyHaHa::  It's so nice to come in here where any one of these clowns can make me laugh (or barf, depending), wish the trials would hurry up and start.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=701

The Jay Blanchard Park Scenario

November 18th, 2009

I like this.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 12:20:18 PM
mizjay...    ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyHaHa::  It's so nice to come in here where any one of these clowns can make me laugh (or barf, depending), wish the trials would hurry up and start.



Me too.
when you start trying to explain some of the details do your family members look like this?    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyConfused::            ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045
good morning monkeys  -Dr. Baden is losing it--you cant match DNA unless you have someone to match it to--In other words you have to have soemone you think is the father-get his DNA and match it.  So the police could not know who the father is-unless they have the fathers DNA-Its not Lee not George who else gave DNA ::MonkeyConfused::

I dunno who else's DNA has been collected- but that is exactly what he said. He did not say 'the Police know who was NOT the daddy because A B and C have been excluded'. He said they know from DNA testing who is the father. I hope he's not confused. That made me think it was M Hawkins from CA.   

WS - I also remember it as you stated.  I thought of Mark Hawkins as well, as didn't LE travel out to CA to see him?  It's reasonable to think a DNA swab was possibly part of their visit.

That makes so much sense.  Didn;t Casey also tell him that she had something to tell him?  I wonder if it was that Caylee was his...Also, wasn't his ex-wife Lee's ex girlfriend who got pregnant by him and subseqently have an abortion?  Maybe that's why she wouldnt' let the "Family" know about him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 18, 2009, 02:16:27 PM
O/T  Amber Alert     http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6534.0

*****************************************

Goodness this was a hoax by two boys....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 02:16:31 PM
Sorry, my computer was doing something crazy when I tried to reply to the last quote...It kept moving the type up and down.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 18, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
Sorry, my computer was doing something crazy when I tried to reply to the last quote...It kept moving the type up and down.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey, mine used to do that too. I was using internet explorer8 ( i think). Everything was terrible. I went back to vista and it went back to normal. It was some kind monkey in here that suggested that .   Good luck


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 02:39:12 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=695

Why Cindy is her own worst Enemy
November 16th, 2009

Good Morning everybody! ::MonkeyJnBox::

Tupelo, this was a good article. The one about the Badens and "Who's the daddy," is just more smoke and mirrors in my view. They are desperate and really reaching now.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

If I had only paid more attention-    I remember seeing Dr Baden on Fox one day,well before his wife signed on with Casey and he definitely said "Oh, the Police KNOW who the father of Caylee is- from DNA..... IIRC it was when all the initial forensic reports were first being released.   The interviewer did not pick up on that and no explanation was given. That has stuck in my mind.  Don't know if he was involved in any testing, but I do know that if HE has the information as to who it is, dollars to donuts his wife does too...

 :smt045
good morning monkeys  -Dr. Baden is losing it--you cant match DNA unless you have someone to match it to--In other words you have to have soemone you think is the father-get his DNA and match it.  So the police could not know who the father is-unless they have the fathers DNA-Its not Lee not George who else gave DNA ::MonkeyConfused::

I dunno who else's DNA has been collected- but that is exactly what he said. He did not say 'the Police know who was NOT the daddy because A B and C have been excluded'. He said they know from DNA testing who is the father. I hope he's not confused. That made me think it was M Hawkins from CA.   

WS - I also remember it as you stated.  I thought of Mark Hawkins as well, as didn't LE travel out to CA to see him?  It's reasonable to think a DNA swab was possibly part of their visit.

That makes so much sense.  Didn;t Casey also tell him that she had something to tell him?  I wonder if it was that Caylee was his...Also, wasn't his ex-wife Lee's ex girlfriend who got pregnant by him and subseqently have an abortion?  Maybe that's why she wouldnt' let the "Family" know about him. 

Yup! I think you nailed it.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 02:40:12 PM
The only thing I don't understand is why would she tell Mark Hawkins Caylee was his if she had already murdered her?? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 02:51:07 PM
Sorry, my computer was doing something crazy when I tried to reply to the last quote...It kept moving the type up and down.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey, mine used to do that too. I was using internet explorer8 ( i think). Everything was terrible. I went back to vista and it went back to normal. It was some kind monkey in here that suggested that .   Good luck
Thanks, it was so weird.  Now it's okay again.  Sometimes computers are beyond me. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 03:00:13 PM
The only thing I don't understand is why would she tell Mark Hawkins Caylee was his if she had already murdered her?? ::MonkeyConfused::
That's a really good point, Fanny.  Here's my two cents...She needed an escape route, she gets Mark Hawkins to buy in that he's the father, she goes to California, (without Caylee, of course,) and spins an evil tale wherein her parents have kidnapped Caylee and she needs money to get her back.  She keeps him away from the A's long enough to scam him out of any and all available assets, (do you like that accidental alliteration?) and then vamooses off to Mexico, leaving parents and putative dad in emotional shambles, no one ever knowing what happened to Caylee.   Years later, she reappears, and then...well, who knows?  I believe that she had some self serving plan, but she got too comfy with Tony L. and kept putting it off.  And then, CINDY busted her.  I've always felt that Karma hit Casey smack between the eyes, when her greatest enabler and conversely,  her greatest enemy were one and the same.  Justice is a lovely thing.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=701

The Jay Blanchard Park Scenario

November 18th, 2009

I like this.   ::MonkeyCool::
Me, too.  I love the whole emphasis on the Ford Focus fiasco.  If Zenaida had taken Caylee on June 16th, driving the brand new car, that she received from her imagi-Dad after the accident that didn't happen until later, all I want to know is how did she do that?  She must have been Supernanny.  Also, just as an aside, I think the reference to the replacing of the car by her dad was a smack at George because he couldn't provide for Casey that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/os-casey-anthony-meter-reader-questioned-20091118,0,2118885.story
Casey Anthony's attorneys to question former meter reader

By Sarah Lundy, Sentinel Staff Writer

11:57 a.m. EST, November 18, 2009

Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains in December, is scheduled to be questioned by defense attorneys Thursday.

He will be deposed at 9 a.m. at the State Attorney's Office.

Kronk, who has since been fired from his position with the county, found the two-year-old remains on Dec. 11 in woods less than a mile from girl's family home in east Orange County. Months earlier, he had alerted deputies of a suspicious bag in the area. But deputies shrugged off his suspicions.

The volunteer search group, Texas EquuSearch, also reported not being able to look in the woods because of flooding from late summer storms.

Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her toddler. Investigators got involved on June 15, 2008 after Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, notified them. That's when Casey Anthony admitted to family members that Caylee had been missing for 31 days.

She told deputies that she left Caylee with a babysitter but when she returned later that day both had vanished. Investigators later determined the babysitter did not exist.
Kronk will be a key witness in the case. Casey Anthony's defense team will likely grill him about what he saw in the woods, when he saw it and what he did about it.

Her defense team has claimed that someone other than Casey Anthony put the child in the woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d17-Is-Casey-Anthonys-family-trying-to-build-a-resonable-doubt-case

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?

Is her first attorney at the heart of what amounts to a conspiracy to obstruct justice by carefully constructing, while at the same time giving instructions to family members on how to build a reasonable doubt defense?

If you look at her conduct in the month prior the family reporting that Caylee was missing, it’s hard to understand or swallow Casey’s claim that some phantom babysitter kidnapped Caylee.

First you start with her deplorable conduct, then comes the whole impossible to swallow or believe  kidnapping. Next she starts lying to the police about working?  Along comes the decomposition, followed by her unexplainable Internet searches. Now before long a case that is in part circumstantial evidence starts firming up for the 1st degree murder of "the little brat," as Casey described Caylee in her own words.

But this is not a strictly circumstantial case by any means. The defense wants to wish away the physical evidence by trying to pooh-pooh it as being inconclusive, it doesn’t work like that counselor.

But, counselor you will get a chance to attack it in court, like the law allows.

When a defense attorney starts throwing up smoke screens with frivolous motions attacking the case in the media before the trial begins it is the attorney’s attempt to plant the idea in the jury pools minds that poor Casey is being railroaded.

It’s a text book defense strategy 101, but it can backfire and burn the client.  The judge will only put up with so many baseless motions then you’ll get a judge that is predisposed to send the defense attorney back to their chairs very unhappy throughout the trial.

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?

It’s possible that when an attorney has a client that they know is guilty as sin, they have to pull out every stop in an attempt to get lucky and derail the prosecution, it works very well sometimes. 

The OJ Simpson dream team tossed it all up against the wall and hoped a few things would stick. Guess what it worked rather well. The overmatched prosecution team were so out gunned.

The prosecutors in the OJ case walked into every trap the defense laid and each time the landmine blew up in their face. But at the end of the day they all got their book deals, as they will in this case, win or lose.

When the client is guilty as sin an attorney will do anything they can to go after that one or two jurors that they can hang the jury with.

They only have too hang the jury on average twice and the case goes away because the prosecutor is afraid they will be seen as pushing a vendetta against the poor girl.

One strategy you can’t rule out is: lets go ahead and anger the judge, it’s more likely the judge will make a mistake if they are angry. If the they get made and make blunder they have reversible error for an appeal to get a new trial.
 

The more times they can get a case retried the better the odds of the defense winning.
 

There is more evidence but with not being directly involved in the case it forces you to wait until the trial (s), for the prosecution to present all their evidence in court.

It’s easy to prejudge her and say she looks guilty as hell! Proving that in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt is another kettle of fish I’m afraid.
 

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?
 

Here is where the case starts getting interesting. Most attorneys will shut their client down immediately, having them exercise their right to remain silent, not in this case.

Casey’s lawyer let her blab on and on using the jail phone. He knew those phones were being recorded. When you analyze all of the statements made, by mommy dearest(AKA Casey), her mother, father, and brother you come away saying what exactly is going on? 
 

OK the mom is a little off kilter maybe she had some involvement with her daughter?

Then you're listen to the brother that seems to be helping the police, but before they're finished talking you're shaking your head going wait a minute did he do something?

Next it's daddy's turn to have a break down, word is leaked about a possible suicide attempt. Wow, suddenly you start going is he involved in some way that he’s acting out of guilt?


Answer “yes,” they’re all involved, not in the murder, but in the attempt to muddy the water so much that a jury goes "well I don't know it seems like reasonable doubt to me!"
That is exactly what is going on here, the person driving the engine from day one has been her first attorney. Can it be called an effective defensive strategy? Absolutely,  but can it be also called a conspiracy to obstruct justice?

It may very well be, that at some point the prosecutor may say "I think it's time we charged the whole darn bunch of you, including you Mr. attorney with a conspiracy to obstruct justice."
 

It’s easy to see parents wanting to protect their only daughter. But protect her from justice in the brutal murder of your own grand-daughter you profess to love so much?

Lie through your teeth to obstruct justice in an attempt to secure your daughters freedom?
 

So as the world the turns in the soap opera that is the Casey Anthony show!
Watch for the next story by this Examiner: Have Casey Anthony & Drew Peterson developed a certain amount of “Star Power?”
Only in America can you become a celebrity when accused of murdering your innocent child or of killing couple of your wives!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 03:36:30 PM
http://www.twistedmysterywriter.com/x__141_CrazyAnthonyNov2009.html

Nothing like a booze cruise to chase the grief away


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 18, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_eyewtiness_saw_cyalee_murder/celebrity/67691


National Enquirer...new segment on Caylee Anthony:

Motorist watched mom take little girl into woods and then stuff body into trunk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 03:43:47 PM

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NOVEMBER 18, 2009 EDITION
Detectives investigating the murder of Caylee Anthony have gotten a stunning break in the case: They believe they have found a secret eyewitness to the heinous killing, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.

And the bombshell testimony of the witness will point directly to the 2-year-old girl's mom Casey as the cold-blooded killer, say sources.

The murder of the cute little girl began unfolding the afternoon of June 16, 2008, in the backyard of the Orlando, Fla., [color:9769=blue! important][color:9769=blue! important]home where Casey lived with her parents, sources close to the case told The ENQUIRER.

Casey's father George saw Casey and Caylee leave just before 1 p.m. that day in Casey's white car. Around 2:30 p.m., George went to work.

But police studying signals recorded from Casey's [color:9769=blue! important][color:9769=blue! important]cell [color:9769=blue! important]phone determined she returned to the area of her parents' home.

Sources say investigators initially found evidence that Casey tried to drown Caylee in the small above-ground swimming pool in the backyard - but she apparently got cold feet and stopped.

Now the secret eyewitness has filled in missing pieces of the puzzle and helped police pinpoint the time of Caylee's murder - sometime between just before 3 p.m. to a little after 4 p.m.

"During that time, a white car matching the description of Casey's was seen parked off the road in a wooded area five miles from the Anthony home," revealed a case insider. "After not going through with killing Caylee in the backyard, Casey took to driving aimlessly around in what police believe was her attempt to look for a secluded wooded area to murder the child."

Through cellphone records, investigators have been able to trace her whereabouts between 1 p.m. and shortly before 3 p.m.

The horrifying events that occurred later that afternoon have emerged thanks to the secret eyewitness - a passing motorist who saw her.

"The motorist saw a woman he later identified as Casey Anthony leaving a white car parked alongside the road," said the insider.

"She was carrying a bundle, possibly a trash bag the size of a small child, in her arms."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
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http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_eyewtiness_saw_cyalee_murder/celebrity/67691


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 03:56:33 PM
Fanny.......we have to stop meeting like this ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 04:03:16 PM
http://www.twistedmysterywriter.com/x__141_CrazyAnthonyNov2009.html

Nothing like a booze cruise to chase the grief away


Hey Seeme.   ::HelloKitty::  Thanks! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 04:04:37 PM
Fanny.......we have to stop meeting like this ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wonder if Bozo is having a good day?     ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 04:15:02 PM
Fanny.......we have to stop meeting like this ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wonder if Bozo is having a good day?     ::MonkeyDevil2::

I'm pretty sure Bozo is "overdrawn" on his good days account ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 04:43:11 PM
Fanny.......we have to stop meeting like this ::MonkeyJnBox::
::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 04:49:08 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21654855/detail.html
Anthonys Say They Only Want Truth From Kronk
Former Meter Reader Found Remains Of Slain Toddler, Caylee Anthony

POSTED: 3:38 pm EST November 18, 2009
UPDATED: 4:19 pm EST November 18, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- On the eve of Roy Kronk's deposition, George and Cindy Anthony's lawyer said the couple does not want to see Kronk dragged through the mud.

The former meter reader who found slain toddler Caylee Anthony's remains is expected to face hours of questioning Thursday from Casey Anthony's defense.

He is the man who brought the search for Caylee to a close last December. Sources said the defense for Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, has done a lot of digging, asking a lot of questions about Kronk's past.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail charged with first-degree murder in Caylee's disappearance.

The Anthonys' attorney said Kronk's personal life and the circumstances of discovering the remains are different things. George and Cindy Anthony's attorney said all they want is the truth from Kronk and not dirt about his past.

"They have been vilified unfairly. They know what it's like to be under a microscope unfairly and they don't want that to happen to someone who found their granddaughter," attorney Brad Conway said.
In the only interview he has done, Kronk said he figured out where Caylee's remains were on his own and he had nothing to do with her disappearance, but speculation about him was everywhere.

"You try to do the right thing. The sad thing is people believe some of the things being said," Kronk said.

His attorney told WESH 2 Thursday that Kronk has some things in his past he's not proud of, but none of that has any bearing on his discovery of Caylee's remains or that he's been truthful about how it occurred.

Conway said that's all the Anthonys want from Kronk.

"Personal issues versus what happened to discover Caylee's remains are two different things They want him to be full and complete about what happened," Conway said.

Kronk's lawyer, David Evans, declined an on-camera interview.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 05:26:31 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: sweets7881 on November 18, 2009, 05:38:46 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Holy moly, I about just fell outta my chair!! They are so about themselves, I can't believe they are trying to help someone else. This whole case they have been about themselves. I'm really glad that Roy Kronk is not being drug through the mud, because I don't believe he had absolutly anything to do with Caylee's murder. That was all her mothers doing.. Sick..Sick..People, and it just keeps getting worse and worse!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 05:48:19 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't know,but I'm not falling for it.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 06:36:09 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=701

The Jay Blanchard Park Scenario

November 18th, 2009

I like this.   ::MonkeyCool::
Me, too.  I love the whole emphasis on the Ford Focus fiasco.  If Zenaida had taken Caylee on June 16th, driving the brand new car, that she received from her imagi-Dad after the accident that didn't happen until later, all I want to know is how did she do that?  She must have been Supernanny.  Also, just as an aside, I think the reference to the replacing of the car by her dad was a smack at George because he couldn't provide for Casey that way.

She was obviously in a half-truth time warp sort of place, you old cynic you!  She transmorphed back to June.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't know,but I'm not falling for it.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Believe it at your peril. They must have finally listened to something BC had to say and are afraid of the backlash if they keep trying to implicate others.  Hopefully all these scammers will end up in jail where they belong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 06:42:16 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_eyewtiness_saw_cyalee_murder/celebrity/67691


National Enquirer...new segment on Caylee Anthony:

Motorist watched mom take little girl into woods and then stuff body into trunk

Well I won't buy the paper but sometimes they have been right with their 'scoops'- ( think John Edwards lover/baby)  who knows, I only hope it's true. Woulda been better if a busload of Nuns had been going by, but a secret witness will have to do for now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ChikN China on November 18, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 

I totally agree with you, Tupelo. A leopard doesn't change it's spots......
Hi, everyone! New here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 07:17:32 PM
WELCOME ChikN China
    ::MonkeyCheer3::

You're right, they don't change, and that has been proven time and time again with these people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Holy moly, I about just fell outta my chair!! They are so about themselves, I can't believe they are trying to help someone else. This whole case they have been about themselves. I'm really glad that Roy Kronk is not being drug through the mud, because I don't believe he had absolutly anything to do with Caylee's murder. That was all her mothers doing.. Sick..Sick..People, and it just keeps getting worse and worse!!
They are  up to something...I can't believe that they've suddenly developed a conscience.  Not in a million,trillion years.  If I didn't have some compassion for Kronk, I have some now.
I feel like he's going to be shish-kabobbed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 18, 2009, 07:21:36 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't know,but I'm not falling for it.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Believe it at your peril. They must have finally listened to something BC had to say and are afraid of the backlash if they keep trying to implicate others.  Hopefully all these scammers will end up in jail where they belong.

All just posturing by Conway.  There are no direct quotes from George or Cindy.  Conway is hoping to put them in a better light in the eyes of the public.  Won't work - EVER!  George is a poor excuse for a man, father, husband, or human.  Looking forward to the day whorseface is convicted and these two evil idiots are charged.  I have had enough of these fools and look forward to watching them get destroyed in court.

I do have a somewhat legal question...

I hope the prosecuters show George a beautiful picture of Caylee while he is on the stand and they ask him if he can identify her in the photo.  After he identifies sweet Caylee, I'd like to see the prosecution show George one of the first crime scene photos of little Caylee's remains in the swamp and then ask George if he recognizes Caylee in that photo.  I'd think that would be enought to cause that coward to puke all over the stand!  I'm looking forward to the day that George Anthony suffers for his lies and cover-ups.........I believe there is a special place in He77 for him too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 
Hey, Chikn--welcome to the cage!  ::MonkeyBike::

I totally agree with you, Tupelo. A leopard doesn't change it's spots......
Hi, everyone! New here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 07:23:30 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_eyewtiness_saw_cyalee_murder/celebrity/67691


National Enquirer...new segment on Caylee Anthony:

Motorist watched mom take little girl into woods and then stuff body into trunk

Well I won't buy the paper but sometimes they have been right with their 'scoops'- ( think John Edwards lover/baby)  who knows, I only hope it's true. Woulda been better if a busload of Nuns had been going by, but a secret witness will have to do for now
Busload of Nuns     ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 18, 2009, 07:24:57 PM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 
Hey, Chikn--welcome to the cage!  ::MonkeyBike::

I totally agree with you, Tupelo. A leopard doesn't change it's spots......
Hi, everyone! New here!
Sorry, jumped in your box, Tupelo.  Great post, it is all about the A's.
And again, Hi Chikn!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 18, 2009, 07:25:48 PM
One more thing Georgie

The bug report was damning ---- Hope you choke on maggots!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 18, 2009, 07:27:53 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't know,but I'm not falling for it.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Believe it at your peril. They must have finally listened to something BC had to say and are afraid of the backlash if they keep trying to implicate others.  Hopefully all these scammers will end up in jail where they belong.

All just posturing by Conway.  There are no direct quotes from George or Cindy.  Conway is hoping to put them in a better light in the eyes of the public.  Won't work - EVER!  George is a poor excuse for a man, father, husband, or human.  Looking forward to the day whorseface is convicted and these two evil idiots are charged.  I have had enough of these fools and look forward to watching them get destroyed in court.

I do have a somewhat legal question...

I hope the prosecuters show George a beautiful picture of Caylee while he is on the stand and they ask him if he can identify her in the photo.  After he identifies sweet Caylee, I'd like to see the prosecution show George one of the first crime scene photos of little Caylee's remains in the swamp and then ask George if he recognizes Caylee in that photo.  I'd think that would be enought to cause that coward to puke all over the stand!  I'm looking forward to the day that George Anthony suffers for his lies and cover-ups.........I believe there is a special place in He77 for him too!

One of the prosecutors on the NG show said she would first of all display a large photo of Caylee, full of life, and alongside it large photo of her remains as found in the swamp. Say absolutely nothing.   Take  a LONG time in setting them up in front of the Jury .   Leave them there during her opening statements. Not referring to them at all, just walking past them.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 18, 2009, 07:33:18 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't know,but I'm not falling for it.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Believe it at your peril. They must have finally listened to something BC had to say and are afraid of the backlash if they keep trying to implicate others.  Hopefully all these scammers will end up in jail where they belong.

All just posturing by Conway.  There are no direct quotes from George or Cindy.  Conway is hoping to put them in a better light in the eyes of the public.  Won't work - EVER!  George is a poor excuse for a man, father, husband, or human.  Looking forward to the day whorseface is convicted and these two evil idiots are charged.  I have had enough of these fools and look forward to watching them get destroyed in court.

I do have a somewhat legal question...

I hope the prosecuters show George a beautiful picture of Caylee while he is on the stand and they ask him if he can identify her in the photo.  After he identifies sweet Caylee, I'd like to see the prosecution show George one of the first crime scene photos of little Caylee's remains in the swamp and then ask George if he recognizes Caylee in that photo.  I'd think that would be enought to cause that coward to puke all over the stand!  I'm looking forward to the day that George Anthony suffers for his lies and cover-ups.........I believe there is a special place in He77 for him too!

One of the prosecutors on the NG show said she would first of all display a large photo of Caylee, full of life, and alongside it large photo of her remains as found in the swamp. Say absolutely nothing.   Take  a LONG time in setting them up in front of the Jury .   Leave them there during her opening statements. Not referring to them at all, just walking past them.....

That works.  Is it true that if both George and Cindy are to be witnesses they can not be in the courtroom until they are called?  Makes sense to me - George just needs to be hit in the face with these photos.  I don't doubt though that Baez and Conway will reveal these photos to George and Cindy so they won't be such a shock to them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Brandi on November 18, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 

I totally agree with you, Tupelo. A leopard doesn't change it's spots......
Hi, everyone! New here!

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Nope, a leopard does not change its spots. I am a firm believer in that.

And the truth does not change.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 18, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-brad-conway-tells-wesh-that-george-cindy-dont-want-roy-kronk-dragged-through-mud.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway tells WESH that George, Cindy don't want Roy Kronk dragged through mud
posted by halboedeker on Nov 18, 2009 4:31:04 PM
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George and Cindy Anthony are showing support for Roy Kronk -- a development that WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing found surprising.

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December. Casey Anthony, George and Cindy's daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Casey Anthony's attorneys will question Kronk on Thursday.

"There's a question will Casey's defense somehow try to discredit Roy Kronk," Kealing said in a report this afternoon. "Sources tell WESH2 her defense has had a private investigator doing a lot of digging and asking a lot of questions about Kronk and his past.

Yet Brad Conway, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, told WESH they want the truth rather than dirt about Kronk.

"They have been vilified unjustly," Conway said of his clients. "They know what it's like to live under a microscope unfairly. And they don't want that to occur to somebody who found their granddaughter."

Kealing said that Kronk and his attorney declined to be interviewed because they didn't want to go on camera. And Kealing said he was unable to reach Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney, to ask about the nature of Thursday's questions.


Have the Anthonys had a lobotomy, or are the meds finally kicking in??? This is so out of character for them! What's goin' on?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Brad Conway really has his work cut out for him.  He's trying so hard to mend the fences.  Had the Anthonys not greeted the public & media with such vitriol & venom, the general public would have had a more positive impression of them.  Instead the lashing out and the insults flew.  All anybody ever wanted to do was to try to help.  They created their own bad press by their behavior.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ChikN China on November 18, 2009, 08:10:01 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Monkeys! I feel like I know so many of you already, as I have been lurking and waiting for forum access for quite some time. Please feel free to do a girl a favor and if I post wrong or do something foolish, point it out to me.
I feel lucky to be here!  ::MonkeyDance::

Now, back to The A's. I do not believe for one second that they are not still looking for someone to throw under the bus. They are who they are, their behavior patterns, characters and morals are set, and they will not suddenly undergo a complete change in their personalities. No matter what their lawyer says for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Monkeys! I feel like I know so many of you already, as I have been lurking and waiting for forum access for quite some time. Please feel free to do a girl a favor and if I post wrong or do something foolish, point it out to me.
I feel lucky to be here!  ::MonkeyDance::

Now, back to The A's. I do not believe for one second that they are not still looking for someone to throw under the bus. They are who they are, their behavior patterns, characters and morals are set, and they will not suddenly undergo a complete change in their personalities. No matter what their lawyer says for them.


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 18, 2009, 09:43:50 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Monkeys! I feel like I know so many of you already, as I have been lurking and waiting for forum access for quite some time. Please feel free to do a girl a favor and if I post wrong or do something foolish, point it out to me.
I feel lucky to be here!  ::MonkeyDance::

Now, back to The A's. I do not believe for one second that they are not still looking for someone to throw under the bus. They are who they are, their behavior patterns, characters and morals are set, and they will not suddenly undergo a complete change in their personalities. No matter what their lawyer says for them.


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WELCOME ChikN China!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 18, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/

Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
WHAT WILL THE JURY THINK IF SHE DOESN’T TAKE THE STAND??
Posted in 1 by billsheaffer on November 18, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 18, 2009, 11:21:10 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Monkeys! I feel like I know so many of you already, as I have been lurking and waiting for forum access for quite some time. Please feel free to do a girl a favor and if I post wrong or do something foolish, point it out to me.
I feel lucky to be here!  ::MonkeyDance::

Now, back to The A's. I do not believe for one second that they are not still looking for someone to throw under the bus. They are who they are, their behavior patterns, characters and morals are set, and they will not suddenly undergo a complete change in their personalities. No matter what their lawyer says for them.


Hi ChiKNChina! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 06:16:29 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.It took me 30 minutes to get in the cage.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 06:19:24 AM
George and Cindy Anthony, have they been unfairly vilified for their support of Casey Anthony? (poll)
Posted by Amanda Collins  On November - 18 - 2009
George and Cindy Anthony, vilified?
Commentary

Do you believe that George and Cindy Anthony have been unfairly vilified? At the beginning of the Casey Anthony case, the public was alerted to missing Caylee Anthony because of Cindy Anthony’s phone call. This alone should have been enough for many to realize that Cindy Anthony did not have a direct impact upon her granddaughter’s disappearance. It was Cindy Anthony who was panicked, Cindy Anthony who cried frantically, and Cindy Anthony who picked up the phone and called 911, three times.


What mother would believe that their daughter is capable of the heinous crime alleged of Casey Anthony? What grandmother wouldn’t want to believe that her granddaughter is alive and in the hands of a nanny rather than met with a horrific fate of death and murder. Is it right for the public to blame Cindy Anthony for clinging to the only hope that was presented to her, albeit that hope was offered by the one now charged with Caylee’s murder, Casey Anthony.


How about George Anthony? Did George Anthony behave in a manner that suggested he had anything to do with Caylee’s disappearance? The grief of losing Caylee has been obvious and at one point, George Anthony attempted to take his own life. Both Cindy and George Anthony stated that the smell in the vehicle was that of death. Many believe that George and Cindy Anthony are in denial, but who wouldn’t be? How can the human mind truly wrap itself around such horrific details such as cold blooded murder or a mother searching for ways to break her two year old daughter’s neck.
What do you think? Do you think that George and Cindy Anthony are guilty of a crime, or do you believe that they are in denial, trying to deal with the tragic loss of their granddaughter Caylee. Finally, do you believe that George and Cindy Anthony would do anything to suppress the truth, even if it meant lying to protect their daughter Casey Anthony.

Poll at link.  http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=929


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 06:20:43 AM
Welcome ChikNChina!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 06:24:51 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html
Kronk Faces Deposition In Anthony Case
Man Who Found Caylee's Body Meets With Attorneys

POSTED: 6:05 am EST November 19, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Eleven months ago, Roy Kronk brought the search for Caylee Anthony to an end when he found her body in a wooded area.

But attorneys want to know how Kronk knew where Caylee's body was located.

It's just one of the questions he will face under oath on Thursday.

An attorney for Kronk said there are some things in Kronk's past that he isn't proud of, but those things have nothing to do with his finding of Caylee's remains. The attorney said his client has always been honest about finding the missing toddler and how he made the discovery.

Kronk found Caylee's remains in December and will provide a sworn deposition.

The defense team for Casey Anthony hired a private investigator to look into Kronk's past. Kronk insists he found Caylee on his own and was not involved in her disappearance.

While Kronk's attorney said his client hasn't had a perfect past, he said that has nothing to do with the Anthony case.

Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said his clients know what it's like to be scrutinized by the public, and they don't want the man who found their granddaughter to be treated unfairly.
"Personal issues versus what happened in regard to the discovery of Caylee's remains are two different things, and they want to give him the chance to be full and complete about what happened," Conway said.

Kronk's deposition begins at 9 a.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:42:34 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/roy-kronk-to-face-questions-th.html
WDBO Local News      
Roy Kronk to face questions Thursday
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ November 19, 2009 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

The meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains will be questioned under oath this morning by her mother's defense.
Roy Kronk told investigators that he stumbled across the remains while relieving himself in the woods but also admits he reported something suspicious in that same spot four months earlier.

He'll now be responsible for his own legal bill, because Orange County stopped paying for his lawyer when Kronk was fired from his job with Orange County Utilities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 19, 2009, 08:16:40 AM
Good morning, monkeys! ::MonkeyBike::
Thanks, Trimm and Tupelo for the links.  I love that Bill Sheaffer's next blog subject is whether or not the A's should be charged with perjury.  I can't wait to hear his analysis on that subject!  (And I hope he says something about obstruction, also.) ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 19, 2009, 08:25:35 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html
Kronk Faces Deposition In Anthony Case
Man Who Found Caylee's Body Meets With Attorneys

POSTED: 6:05 am EST November 19, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Eleven months ago, Roy Kronk brought the search for Caylee Anthony to an end when he found her body in a wooded area.

But attorneys want to know how Kronk knew where Caylee's body was located.

It's just one of the questions he will face under oath on Thursday.

An attorney for Kronk said there are some things in Kronk's past that he isn't proud of, but those things have nothing to do with his finding of Caylee's remains. The attorney said his client has always been honest about finding the missing toddler and how he made the discovery.

Kronk found Caylee's remains in December and will provide a sworn deposition.

The defense team for Casey Anthony hired a private investigator to look into Kronk's past. Kronk insists he found Caylee on his own and was not involved in her disappearance.

While Kronk's attorney said his client hasn't had a perfect past, he said that has nothing to do with the Anthony case.

Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said his clients know what it's like to be scrutinized by the public, and they don't want the man who found their granddaughter to be treated unfairly.
"Personal issues versus what happened in regard to the discovery of Caylee's remains are two different things, and they want to give him the chance to be full and complete about what happened," Conway said.

Kronk's deposition begins at 9 a.m.
"they want to give him the to be full and complete about what happened"
Just the fact that they think they have the right to give him that chance shows me how arrogant the A's reallly are.  Who the H*** do they think they are? 
 ::MonkeyMad:: 
I have to go to physical therapy now, and I'm already annoyed.  Be back later, hope we get some scoop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 08:33:25 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

An interesting post from the Topix thread Does the State Have the Goods   http://www.topix.net/forum/city/orlando-fl/TBECQU3ED65EA68IV/p1792


toetag
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

"If I could just share one more bit of information, dear Caylee supporters:

Never lose faith that JUSTICE IS COMING for Caylee. Those little birdies have been talking again (you know, the ones that make Cindy VERY NERVOUS). The word is that Dom Casey (the PI) is very, very close to turning state's witness and blowing the lid off of many of the Anthonys' "mistruths". His depo cannot be extended any further and there have been closed door meetings about what he will reveal in that forthcoming depo. Cindy is her usual smug, stuck up self....thinking he will never turn on her....but *surprise surprise*....it happens all the time in criminal cases!!! So stay turned and KEEP THE FAITH.
Lily_Marie (11/18/2009, 6:55 PM )"



So, I agree, lets keep the faith. It's time for these players to stop with the games and stand up for truth and justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 19, 2009, 08:54:02 AM
Good morning, monkeys! ::MonkeyBike::
Thanks, Trimm and Tupelo for the links.  I love that Bill Sheaffer's next blog subject is whether or not the A's should be charged with perjury.  I can't wait to hear his analysis on that subject!  (And I hope he says something about obstruction, also.) ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyCool::  Me too;    It's really neat to be in Mr. Sheaffer's law class!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:09:02 AM
The Anthonys are showing support for Kronk???   ::MonkeyMad::  Really? In what way? I would love to know if they have ever even thanked the man for finding their granddaughters REMAINS?  After seeing emails on how they dug up what they thought was dirt on so many people, I don't believe this for a second. They have publicly ridiculed, accused and belittled everyone who was involved in finding Caylee, and now we are supposed to believe this BS?  Oh, that's right....he didn't find their granddaughter, it was some other little girl, hence the new found feelings for him. It took me a minute.......this article is really all about them and has nothing to do with Kronk. 

Amen Tupelo!!  The A's have been trying to change their image for months now (hasn't worked)....BC has made the statement several times that the A's only want the truth......well, if that's the case, IMO they need to start telling the truth!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:13:35 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.It took me 30 minutes to get in the cage.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning trim and all Monks old and new!  I was having lots of trouble yesterday and finally gave up!  Yikes...sure hope that is not going to be the case today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:17:50 AM
George and Cindy Anthony, have they been unfairly vilified for their support of Casey Anthony? (poll)
Posted by Amanda Collins  On November - 18 - 2009
George and Cindy Anthony, vilified?
Commentary

Do you believe that George and Cindy Anthony have been unfairly vilified? At the beginning of the Casey Anthony case, the public was alerted to missing Caylee Anthony because of Cindy Anthony’s phone call. This alone should have been enough for many to realize that Cindy Anthony did not have a direct impact upon her granddaughter’s disappearance. It was Cindy Anthony who was panicked, Cindy Anthony who cried frantically, and Cindy Anthony who picked up the phone and called 911, three times.


What mother would believe that their daughter is capable of the heinous crime alleged of Casey Anthony? What grandmother wouldn’t want to believe that her granddaughter is alive and in the hands of a nanny rather than met with a horrific fate of death and murder. Is it right for the public to blame Cindy Anthony for clinging to the only hope that was presented to her, albeit that hope was offered by the one now charged with Caylee’s murder, Casey Anthony.


How about George Anthony? Did George Anthony behave in a manner that suggested he had anything to do with Caylee’s disappearance? The grief of losing Caylee has been obvious and at one point, George Anthony attempted to take his own life. Both Cindy and George Anthony stated that the smell in the vehicle was that of death. Many believe that George and Cindy Anthony are in denial, but who wouldn’t be? How can the human mind truly wrap itself around such horrific details such as cold blooded murder or a mother searching for ways to break her two year old daughter’s neck.
What do you think? Do you think that George and Cindy Anthony are guilty of a crime, or do you believe that they are in denial, trying to deal with the tragic loss of their granddaughter Caylee. Finally, do you believe that George and Cindy Anthony would do anything to suppress the truth, even if it meant lying to protect their daughter Casey Anthony.

Poll at link.  http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=929

thanks for the link...here's the results so far

Thank you for voting!
No, they deserve what they get- they are just as guilty as Casey. 25% (27 votes)
Yes, they are grieving grandparents and have done nothing wrong 6% (6 votes)
No, they are grieving, but are covering for Casey! 69% (75 votes)
Total Votes: 108
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How in the heck can people say they are grieving???   I don't buy their grief.....JMO  they are living better off Caylee's death than they have ever lived in their lives.....I see no signs of them grieving..only signs of them living the good life....off Caylee name ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.It took me 30 minutes to get in the cage.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning trim and all Monks old and new!  I was having lots of trouble yesterday and finally gave up!  Yikes...sure hope that is not going to be the case today!

Took me forever to get in the cage and then I booted out twice.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
It's got to get better.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:20:24 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-update-20091119,0,7495304.story
Casey Anthony's lawyers to question former meter reader today
Roy Kronk found Caylee Anthony's remains in December
By Bianca Prieto, Sentinel Staff Writer

9:18 a.m. EST, November 19, 2009

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Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning.

Kronk is credited with finding the skeletal remains of Caylee Anthony last December in woods near the Anthony family's east Orange County home. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in her 2-year-old's death last summer.

Kronk tried three times to report a suspicious item, which turned out to be the missing girl's remains.

Kronk walked into the State Attorney's Office in Orlando for the deposition at about 8:15 a.m. The closed-door questioning began at 9 a.m., around the time two of Casey Anthony's attorneys arrived.

Anthony's lead attorney, Jose Baez, and other attorney said little to reporters gathered outside the State Attorneys Office as they walked into the deposition.

The two said they will be busy all day and may comment later.
n October, Kronk was fired from his position in Orange County for failing to show up to a disciplinary hearing for excessive absenteeism after an injury on the job. Kronk's lawyer, David Evans, said his client injured his neck and back while lifting boxes at a warehouse.

The county initially paid for Evans to represent Kronk, but will no longer do so. Evans said he will continue to represent Kronk.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:23:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

An interesting post from the Topix thread Does the State Have the Goods   http://www.topix.net/forum/city/orlando-fl/TBECQU3ED65EA68IV/p1792


toetag
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

"If I could just share one more bit of information, dear Caylee supporters:

Never lose faith that JUSTICE IS COMING for Caylee. Those little birdies have been talking again (you know, the ones that make Cindy VERY NERVOUS). The word is that Dom Casey (the PI) is very, very close to turning state's witness and blowing the lid off of many of the Anthonys' "mistruths". His depo cannot be extended any further and there have been closed door meetings about what he will reveal in that forthcoming depo. Cindy is her usual smug, stuck up self....thinking he will never turn on her....but *surprise surprise*....it happens all the time in criminal cases!!! So stay turned and KEEP THE FAITH.
Lily_Marie (11/18/2009, 6:55 PM )"



So, I agree, lets keep the faith. It's time for these players to stop with the games and stand up for truth and justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.


 ::MonkeyGavel::  That's right.I have faith there will be justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:25:15 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/111909-casey-anthony-case
Roy Kronk to be deposed in Casey Anthony case

Updated: Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 9:10 AM EST
Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 8:40 AM EST

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against Casey Anthony is heating back up.

Roy Kronk is scheduled to be deposed on Thursday by Casey Anthony's defense team. He is the man who found the remains of Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 09:31:39 AM
Good morning and thanks for the updates, Dom Casey turning state's witness, let's hope, stranger things have happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:32:33 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.It took me 30 minutes to get in the cage.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning trim and all Monks old and new!  I was having lots of trouble yesterday and finally gave up!  Yikes...sure hope that is not going to be the case today!

Took me forever to get in the cage and then I booted out twice.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
It's got to get better.   ::MonkeyCool::

I hope!!  So far so good!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:35:13 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

An interesting post from the Topix thread Does the State Have the Goods   http://www.topix.net/forum/city/orlando-fl/TBECQU3ED65EA68IV/p1792


toetag
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

"If I could just share one more bit of information, dear Caylee supporters:

Never lose faith that JUSTICE IS COMING for Caylee. Those little birdies have been talking again (you know, the ones that make Cindy VERY NERVOUS). The word is that Dom Casey (the PI) is very, very close to turning state's witness and blowing the lid off of many of the Anthonys' "mistruths". His depo cannot be extended any further and there have been closed door meetings about what he will reveal in that forthcoming depo. Cindy is her usual smug, stuck up self....thinking he will never turn on her....but *surprise surprise*....it happens all the time in criminal cases!!! So stay turned and KEEP THE FAITH.
Lily_Marie (11/18/2009, 6:55 PM )"



So, I agree, lets keep the faith. It's time for these players to stop with the games and stand up for truth and justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.

 ::MonkeyGavel::  That's right.I have faith there will be justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Me too!  Just wish it wasn't taking so darn long!!  I wonder if Lily_Marie knows what she is talking about...I HOPE so!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 09:37:32 AM
Good morning and thanks for the updates, Dom Casey turning state's witness, let's hope, stranger things have happened.

Morning nrcg ::MonkeyDance::  Wouldn't that be wonderful.....and yes, I too HOPE....it's time someone other than the state stepped up for Caylee, truth and justice!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 19, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
Good morning and thanks for the updates, Dom Casey turning state's witness, let's hope, stranger things have happened.

Morning nrcg ::MonkeyDance::  Wouldn't that be wonderful.....and yes, I too HOPE....it's time someone other than the state stepped up for Caylee, truth and justice!!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::   Justice for Caylee!      ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
We can only hope that DC has realized that he may face charges for perjury, maybe more, and has come to terms that his actions could cost him everything he has worked for his entire life. I still can't figure out what's in it for him by continuing on, he has received no pay for his efforts in helping the Anthonys. If he joined this team to find the truth, then he needs to reveal the actual truth, not the Anthony version. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:48:50 AM
Good morning and thanks for the updates, Dom Casey turning state's witness, let's hope, stranger things have happened.

 ::HelloKitty::  We can always hope. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 09:49:45 AM
Good morning and thanks for the updates, Dom Casey turning state's witness, let's hope, stranger things have happened.

Morning nrcg ::MonkeyDance::  Wouldn't that be wonderful.....and yes, I too HOPE....it's time someone other than the state stepped up for Caylee, truth and justice!!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::   Justice for Caylee!      ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 19, 2009, 09:53:41 AM
We can only hope that DC has realized that he may face charges for perjury, maybe more, and has come to terms that his actions could cost him everything he has worked for his entire life. I still can't figure out what's in it for him by continuing on, he has received no pay for his efforts in helping the Anthonys. If he joined this team to find the truth, then he needs to reveal the actual truth, not the Anthony version. JMO

Exactly.    And C&G didn't even allow him to go on their little cruise!    ::MonkeyRoll::

He just needs to come clean and spill his guts.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 19, 2009, 10:10:03 AM
We can only hope that DC has realized that he may face charges for perjury, maybe more, and has come to terms that his actions could cost him everything he has worked for his entire life. I still can't figure out what's in it for him by continuing on, he has received no pay for his efforts in helping the Anthonys. If he joined this team to find the truth, then he needs to reveal the actual truth, not the Anthony version. JMO

Exactly.    And C&G didn't even allow him to go on their little cruise!    ::MonkeyRoll::

He just needs to come clean and spill his guts.   

Gee I wonder if it is the fringe benefits he gets from Spindy that keeps him hanging on - these people are so shallow that it wouldn't surprise me that that is all it would take for him  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 19, 2009, 10:11:10 AM
Good Morning everybody.  ::MonkeyGavel::

WELCOME TO CHINKNCHINA!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I voted on the poll. Guess nobody has to guess how I voted.....BAM!  ::MonkeyGavel::

Be still my heart for Dom Casey to turn State's witness.  ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Other than the great post by NCMIKE last night, I am pretty low-key this morning. Can yo tell????  ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 19, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 19, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?

Hi.  IIRC, there was some talk/rumor of DC having a little fling with CA.     Maybe that is his reason for not wanting to testify?     ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 19, 2009, 11:18:57 AM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?

Hi.  IIRC, there was some talk/rumor of DC having a little fling with CA.     Maybe that is his reason for not wanting to testify?     ::MonkeyRoll::

 :puker: :puker:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?

Hi.  IIRC, there was some talk/rumor of DC having a little fling with CA.     Maybe that is his reason for not wanting to testify?     ::MonkeyRoll::
JMOO.....I think it has more to do with unethical and illegal actions he is involved in, in this case. It started before his search of the woods, but that search, with him stating he was going to go get Caylee, is the reason, I believe. How many are involved in that?.....I feel many are. We all know how controlling and threatening Cindy is, and I think she has been the reason for his blatant refusal to answer questions and show up for depositions, much like we have seen from Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 19, 2009, 11:23:15 AM
Kathi Belick is awesome....

She goes after Bozo like a pitbull

Her first question to him this morning is who is Caylee's father.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/21663637/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 19, 2009, 11:24:17 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!   ::HelloKitty::

Casey's going down and we're all going to be watching!!   ::MonkeyDance::    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 11:26:39 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/19/baez_questioning_kronk_about_recovery_of_caylee39s_remains.html
 Casey’s Lawyer Questions Man Who Found Caylee
Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:23:04 AM
Reported by Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony’s defense team has finally been given the chance to question the man who found the remains of Casey’s daughter, Caylee.

Roy Kronk, a former Orange County meter reader, discovered the 2-year-old’s body in a wooded area near the Anthony home in December 2008.

The defense has waited almost a year to question Kronk, who made the first 911 call after finding Caylee’s remains, and has also claimed to have spotted “something suspicious” in the same area in August 2008.

Defense lawyer Jose Baez said his team plans on spending a considerable amount of time with Kronk Thursday.

“We’ll be here all day,” Baez told reporters before the deposition.

Kronk was not scheduled to be deposed until 9 a.m. Thursday, but he showed up at the Orange County Courthouse around 8:10 a.m., hoping to avoid reporters -- though he was not successful.
The public has only gotten glimpses of Roy Kronk in the last year -- at the crime scene, at a press conference a week later, then on “Good Morning America,” after he was paid thousands of dollars -- whether that payoff was for a photo or an interview remains debatable.

Kronk said nothing on his way inside. His county-paid attorney, David Evans, said very little, and even Baez had little to say as they all headed into the courthouse Thursday.

When News 13 asked Baez how crucial Kronk was to his defense, he replied, “We’re not going to talk right now. We got to get going.”

Baez told reporters he would talk after the deposition.

Also at the deposition was Professor Andrea Lyon, whom Baez brought on board for her death penalty experience.

Prosecutor Jeff Ashton was also present for the deposition, which was initiated by the defense.

Kronk was recently fired from his job for being absent too many times.

The deposition is not the first time Kronk has made statements about finding the Caylee’s body:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 11:28:40 AM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?

Hi.  IIRC, there was some talk/rumor of DC having a little fling with CA.     Maybe that is his reason for not wanting to testify?     ::MonkeyRoll::

 :puker: :puker:

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Babybear on November 19, 2009, 11:29:37 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html
Kronk Faces Deposition In Anthony Case
Man Who Found Caylee's Body Meets With Attorneys

POSTED: 6:05 am EST November 19, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Eleven months ago, Roy Kronk brought the search for Caylee Anthony to an end when he found her body in a wooded area.

But attorneys want to know how Kronk knew where Caylee's body was located.

It's just one of the questions he will face under oath on Thursday.

An attorney for Kronk said there are some things in Kronk's past that he isn't proud of, but those things have nothing to do with his finding of Caylee's remains. The attorney said his client has always been honest about finding the missing toddler and how he made the discovery.

Kronk found Caylee's remains in December and will provide a sworn deposition.

The defense team for Casey Anthony hired a private investigator to look into Kronk's past. Kronk insists he found Caylee on his own and was not involved in her disappearance.

While Kronk's attorney said his client hasn't had a perfect past, he said that has nothing to do with the Anthony case.

Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said his clients know what it's like to be scrutinized by the public, and they don't want the man who found their granddaughter to be treated unfairly.
"Personal issues versus what happened in regard to the discovery of Caylee's remains are two different things, and they want to give him the chance to be full and complete about what happened," Conway said.

Kronk's deposition begins at 9 a.m.
"they want to give him the to be full and complete about what happened"
Just the fact that they think they have the right to give him that chance shows me how arrogant the A's reallly are.  Who the H*** do they think they are? 
 ::MonkeyMad:: 
I have to go to physical therapy now, and I'm already annoyed.  Be back later, hope we get some scoop.

Morning, Monks.  You're right Delicious Monk.  What gall to act as if it is their power to give anyone the right to do anything.  It goes to show how much they think they can control not only this trial, but the world.  Ridiculous people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 11:32:44 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/kronk-deposition-gets-underway.html
WDBO Local News      
Kronk deposition gets underway
By
Marva Hinton
@ November 19, 2009 10:40 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are deposing the man who found Caylee Anthony's body.
The former Orange County meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains is answering questions about that find today under oath.

Roy Kronk's attorney, David Evans, says he's not concerned that Casey's attorneys may be trying to dig up dirt on his client.

"They're trying to defend a first-degree murder charge, and so they'll ask all the questions they want to ask," said Evens. "We'll answer them, and we'll be done."

Defense attorney Jose Baez wouldn't say what he planned to ask Kronk as he headed into the deposition.

"We're not going to talk right now," said Baez. "We've got to get going. I'll talk to you guys when we come out, okay," said Baez.

That could take some time. Baez indicated the deposition will most likely take all day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: akmom on November 19, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
    Never been quite sure how I feel about Mr Kronk, but the one thing I am sure of is that this whole mess will ruin his life.  The evil Anthonys taint everything that comes in contact with them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 11:53:19 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 11:55:50 AM
Kathi Belick is awesome....

She goes after Bozo like a pitbull

Her first question to him this morning is who is Caylee's father.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/21663637/index.html
Hmmmm.....Lyon felt this depo was important enough to show up in person rather than via skype!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 11:57:12 AM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)
He does.....except the defense team is "all shook up" instead of Kronk!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 19, 2009, 11:59:33 AM
This one is for the usual gang...you know who you are.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/earlyyears-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 12:02:25 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)
He does.....except the defense team is "all shook up" instead of Kronk!  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
This one is for the usual gang...you know who you are.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/earlyyears-2.jpg)


 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
Love the hair style!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Scatty on November 19, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
We can only hope that DC has realized that he may face charges for perjury, maybe more, and has come to terms that his actions could cost him everything he has worked for his entire life. I still can't figure out what's in it for him by continuing on, he has received no pay for his efforts in helping the Anthonys. If he joined this team to find the truth, then he needs to reveal the actual truth, not the Anthony version. JMO

Exactly.    And C&G didn't even allow him to go on their little cruise!    ::MonkeyRoll::

He just needs to come clean and spill his guts.   

Gee I wonder if it is the fringe benefits he gets from Spindy that keeps him hanging on - these people are so shallow that it wouldn't surprise me that that is all it would take for him  ::MonkeyRoll::

Could he have wanted to postpone so that his testimony couldn't be used in Zenaida's case? When does that one start?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)
   ::MonkeyEek:: He certainly looks like he has gained weight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 12:25:21 PM
(Sorry if this was already posted)

Casey Anthony The Family that plays together, stays together

http://www.youtube.com/v/db8UuW5qXYs&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: BooMonkey on November 19, 2009, 12:27:19 PM
This one is for the usual gang...you know who you are.

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/earlyyears-2.jpg)


 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
Love the hair style!!!

Look at that little girl. Who would have known that in a few short years she would kill her only child so she could be free from responsibility and go out and party. Scary to look at that picture (aside from Cindy's hairdo) and know what their future will be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 12:59:59 PM
Kathi Belick is awesome....

She goes after Bozo like a pitbull

Her first question to him this morning is who is Caylee's father.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/21663637/index.html

Gotta love KB!!  She ROCKS!!  thanks NCMike


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 19, 2009, 01:01:19 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)
He does.....except the defense team is "all shook up" instead of Kronk!  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 01:01:42 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)
He does.....except the defense team is "all shook up" instead of Kronk!  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 01:02:35 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)

Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
Kathi Belick is awesome....

She goes after Bozo like a pitbull

Her first question to him this morning is who is Caylee's father.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/21663637/index.html
Hmmmm.....Lyon felt this depo was important enough to show up in person rather than via skype!

How about that?    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 01:06:51 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-roy-kronk-quiet-cool-on-way-to-deposition.html
Casey Anthony: Roy Kronk quiet, cool on way to deposition
posted by halboedeker on Nov 19, 2009 12:45:35 PM
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Roy Kronk was a major story at noon today.

Wearing sunglasses and saying nothing, Kronk showed up this morning for a deposition in the Casey Anthony case. He is the former meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains in December. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing said Kronk turned up 40 minutes early at the state attorney's office. "If he was nervous about having to undergo all these questions, he certainly didn't show it," Kealing said. "At the state attorney's office, Roy Kronk was calm, quiet and cool."

David Evans, Kronk's attorney, said he had no concerns about any digging Anthony's defense team had done into his client's past.

Jose Baez, Anthony's attorney, declined to answer a question on that point on his way into the deposition. But Baez said the deposition would run all day.

On WFTV-Channel 9, Kathi Belich recapped Kronk's persistence in finding the toddler's remains. Belich concluded her report: "There have been all kinds of -- what some people would call -- ridiculous stories circulating about meter reader Roy Kronk -- that he somehow got inside information through a relationship he has with someone who works at the jail, that maybe he even had something to do with putting Caylee's body in the woods. Prosecutors believe him, no matter what his character flaws are."

On WKMG-Channel 6, Mike DeForest speculated on what was happening in the deposition. "Casey Anthony's attorneys are likely grilling Kronk about why he returned to those woods and whether someone may have tipped him off that the child's body was there," DeForest said.

DeForest said the deposition could continue Friday.

The stations promised updates later today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 01:15:35 PM


Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::

oops!  So sorry, Sunny.   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 01:17:18 PM
Monkeys
Is it just me? or what! But it seems like baez is always smug and confident when the lioness is close to his side. Just the other day he looked drained and not so confident! today he appears all smug thinking he is all that hmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)

Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::
I was rather surprised to see the lioness there today at  baez's  side.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 19, 2009, 01:24:02 PM
::HelloKitty::  Good morning/afternoon Monkeys.  I've gotten so far behind, I'll never catch up. 

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2009-11/50589476-19075133.jpg)

Casey Anthony's attorneys are questioning former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk this morning. Kronk found Caylee Marie Anthony's body in the woods near the Anthony home in December of last year.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

(Does he kinda look like Elvis here, or is it just me?  LOL)

Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::
I was rather surprised to see the lioness there today at  baez's  side.

Looks like someone is getting nervous....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 19, 2009, 01:24:31 PM
Good morning MONKS. 
I have never understood why DC is determined not to testify. Surely he has been subpoenaed, so he has limited immunity.
We can assume he has yet to be paid by anyone.  He could have his own payday by writing a book/interviews ect.
I $ee more benifits to him to tell the truth, what am I missing?

Hi.  IIRC, there was some talk/rumor of DC having a little fling with CA.     Maybe that is his reason for not wanting to testify?     ::MonkeyRoll::
JMOO.....I think it has more to do with unethical and illegal actions he is involved in, in this case. It started before his search of the woods, but that search, with him stating he was going to go get Caylee, is the reason, I believe. How many are involved in that?.....I feel many are. We all know how controlling and threatening Cindy is, and I think she has been the reason for his blatant refusal to answer questions and show up for depositions, much like we have seen from Cindy.
If he is subpoenaed, he HAS limited immunity, that will cover him for any "unethical/illigal actions" and we know this is the case from his filings against Jo$e.    
If there was something going on between him & CA, I doubt that is still the case now.

If his original rea$on$ for in$erting him$elf into this case was cash, he would be better off telling the truth and collecting cash for HIMSELF.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 19, 2009, 01:32:04 PM
If he is subpoenaed, he HAS limited immunity, that will cover him for any "unethical/illigal actions" and we know this is the case from his filings against Jo$e.   
If there was something going on between him & CA, I doubt that is still the case now.

If his original rea$on$ for in$erting him$elf into this case was cash, he would be better off telling the truth and collecting cash for HIMSELF

*******************************

i agree plus i do believe they would ask him about Cindy as it IS relevant. Especially if she was the one who told him to go there because she trusted him after their "undercover" action


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 01:36:03 PM


Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::

oops!  So sorry, Sunny.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

don't forget Sea Searcher.   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 01:44:43 PM


Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::

oops!  So sorry, Sunny.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 02:01:23 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/19/baez_questioning_kronk_about_recovery_of_caylee39s_remains.html
 Casey’s Lawyer Questions Man Who Found Caylee
Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:23:25 PM
Reported by Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony’s defense team has finally been given the chance to question the man who found the remains of Casey’s daughter, Caylee.

Roy Kronk, a former Orange County meter reader, discovered the 2-year-old’s body in a wooded area near the Anthony home in December 2008.

The defense has waited almost a year to question Kronk, who made the first 911 call after finding Caylee’s remains, and has also claimed to have spotted “something suspicious” in the same area in August 2008.

Defense lawyer Jose Baez said his team plans on spending a considerable amount of time with Kronk Thursday.

“We’ll be here all day,” Baez told reporters before the deposition.

Kronk was not scheduled to be deposed until 9 a.m. Thursday, but he showed up at the Orange County Courthouse around 8:10 a.m., hoping to avoid reporters -- though he was not successful.
The public has only gotten glimpses of Roy Kronk in the last year -- at the crime scene, at a press conference a week later, then on “Good Morning America,” after he was paid thousands of dollars -- whether that payoff was for a photo or an interview remains debatable.

Kronk said nothing on his way inside. His county-paid attorney, David Evans, said very little, and even Baez had little to say as they all headed into the courthouse Thursday.

When News 13 asked Baez how crucial Kronk was to his defense, he replied, “We’re not going to talk right now. We got to get going.”

Baez told reporters he would talk after the deposition.

Also at the deposition was Professor Andrea Lyon, whom Baez brought on board for her death penalty experience.

Prosecutor Jeff Ashton was also present for the deposition, which was initiated by the defense.

Kronk was recently fired from his job for being absent too many times.

The deposition is not the first time Kronk has made statements about finding the Caylee’s body:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 02:14:21 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=000TPYQxKronkTalks_111920091203&cat=Local&title=Kronk%20Speaks%20To%20News%2013

video - Kronk speaks To News 13


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 02:20:46 PM
New Anthony Defense Team Member Seen
P.I. Looking Into Past Of Man Who Found Caylee's Remains

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 1:42 pm EST November 19, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla.-- The man who found the remains of Caylee Anthony was deposed on Thursday by Casey Anthony's defense team, which has added a private investigator to its lineup.

A new member of the defense team was seen entering the courtroom on Thursday. Mort Smith is a Chicago-based private investigator who teaches his skills at DePaul University, the same school where fellow defense team member Andrea Lyon teaches.

Smith has been digging into Kronk's personal life for the past several months in an effort to uncover information that might discredit the former meter reader, or at least cast doubt on his story of how he found Caylee.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21661564/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 02:28:07 PM
http://www.mortsmith.com/

(http://www.mortsmith.com/images/suits.jpg)

Illinois Licensed Private Investigator #115-000975

Mortimer "Mort" Smith, M.A., is an Illinois Licensed Private Detective. He specializes in criminal defense investigations and cases involving civil rights violations. Mr. Smith is a consultant to criminal defense investigators and attorneys on matters concerning criminal defense investigations. He is the co-founder and instructor of the Certified Criminal Defense Investigation Program at DePaul University. Mr. Smith teaches trial preparation investigation to 2nd and 3rd year law school students at the Center for Justice in Capital Cases/DePaul University College of Law and Bluhm Legal Clinic/Northwestern University College of Law.

Mr. Smith has been an investigator for over 20 years. He has provided investigative services for hundreds of defendants locally and nationally. He has provided investigative services for many citizens who were abused and otherwise wronged by police officers. He is the former Chief Investigator for the Cook County Public Defender's Murder Task Force and former Chief Investigator for the Illinois Capital Resource Center (now the Capital Litigation Division) of the Office of the State Appellate Defender. In 1993, Mr. Smith was selected to be the Chief Investigator for the Office of the Inspector General/DCFS where he developed the investigation unit that investigates wrongdoings by employees of that agency. Mr. Smith has been a faculty member for the Clarence Darrow Death Penalty College since 2003. Additionally, Mr. Smith is the Chair of the Investigator Division of the Illinois Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (IACDL) and writes a quarterly column in the IACDL newsletter discussing issues surrounding criminal defense investigations.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 03:34:31 PM
http://barbarasblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/05/sister-helen-prejean-and-dennis-fritz.html

May 31, 2008

On Thursday, May 22, noted authors’ Dennis Fritz and Sister Helen Prejean, teamed up together in Chicago, Illinois, to speak at the Saint Vincent Catholic Church at DePaul University—against the arbitrary use of the death penalty.
This long-awaited event represented a powerful combination of these two people (along with other key, death penalty abolitionists), whose sole objective(s) are to bring about the much-needed, greater awareness against the use of the death penalty.

Sister Helen Prejean is the author of Dead Man Walking, which was turned into a major motion picture in the middle 90’s. Her later released book, The Death of Innocents, is a powerful and poignant masterpiece, that exposes the in-depth atrocities of the death penalty.
Sister Helen is a true-to-heart abolitionist, and is speaking all over the county about her unyielding convictions against the unfair use of the death penalty. Sister Helen so eloquently combines her powerful presence with a witty sense of humor and directness that radiates her southern charm and intelligence. Her determination, dedication, and fortitude are deeply embedded in her plight to abolish the death penalty.

Dennis Fritz, who is the author of Journey Toward Justice—the co-companion book to John Grisham’s The Innocent Man— has been touring the country and speaking out about wrongful convictions, and the unfair administration of the death penalty. A major motion picture under the direction of George Clooney, is now underway about Dennis and Ronnie Williamson’ case. Both men were falsely convicted of 1st Degree Capital Murder, and spent 12 years behind bars before DNA testing finally freed them.

To meet Dennis, you would never think that he had suffered through a 12 year, never-ending nightmare, as such. His strength, fortitude, and courage are Dennis’ blessings to everyone around him. Today, his zest for life and liberty is greater than it has ever been. Dennis lives each and everyday of his life to the fullest, with a positive attitude and caring for other people—that is very rare in today’s society. Now, he finally gets to meet Sister Helen Prejean!
After Sister Helen and Dennis were picked up at the O’Hare International Airport by Elliot Slosar and Jennifer Bishop ( bulldog abolitionist’s for the State of Illinois ), they immediately had lunch at Giordano’s Pizza.
The excitement could be felt throughout the restaurant, as each of the dynamos for justice conversed and celebrated their long-awaited meeting. After lunch, the group traveled to the historic site of the St. Vincent DePaul Catholic Church, where Sister Helen and Dennis would speak that evening to an overwhelming crowd of supporters.

While Sister Helen was speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Dennis got a wonderful tour of Chicago by the one-and-only, Jennifer Bishop. Afterwards, everyone met for dinner at a local nearby restaurant.

Dennis got to meet other powerful abolitionists such as Andrea Lyon and her son, Will, Jennifer’s sister, Jeanne, Private Detective, Mort Smith, Dominick Fortunato, and Bill Bishop—Jennifer’s husband.
(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 03:48:28 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?

Of course they knew........    ::MonkeyDevil2:: IMO
I can't wait until the karma bus catches up with the A's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 03:58:18 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 04:01:47 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

Nothing new on the civil case.

Murder charges activity:

11/13/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
11/13/2009 State's Witness List
12/11/2009 Hearing (9:30 AM)
01/21/2010 Hearing (10:00 AM)

Check Fraud Charges:
11/02/2009 Notice of Hearing
12/11/2009 Hearing (9:30 AM)
12/18/2009 CANCELED Hearing (10:00 AM) Canceled
01/25/2010 Trial (10:00 AM)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 04:04:41 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

I was gonna ask if you been over there.I was like   ::MonkeyEek::. It seem to load faster.
I still say Casey is gonna need her own website before this case is over.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 04:10:57 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

I was gonna ask if you been over there.I was like   ::MonkeyEek::. It seem to load faster.
I still say Casey is gonna need her own website before this case is over.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: That could be!  It took me a bit to navigate around there, but I did eventually find the cases. Why do they want to mess with an old lady, me?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 04:20:33 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html
Kronk Faces Deposition In Anthony Case
Former Meter Reader Quiet, Calm

POSTED: 6:05 am EST November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 3:34 pm EST November 19, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Eleven months ago, Roy Kronk brought the search for slain toddler Caylee Anthony to an end when he found her body in a wooded area.

But attorneys want to know how Kronk knew where Caylee's body was located. It's just one of the questions he will face under oath on Thursday.
Kronk showed up more than 30 minutes early for his 9 a.m. deposition, and had no comment except to say that he was thankful for his attorney.

An attorney for Kronk said there are some things in Kronk's past that he isn't proud of, but those things have nothing to do with his finding of Caylee's remains. The attorney said his client has always been honest about finding the missing toddler and how he made the discovery.

Kronk's lawyer said the deposition has been a slow, methodical process with a lot of questions about Kronk's past.

Kronk insists he found Caylee on his own and was not involved in her disappearance.

While Kronk's attorney said earlier that his client hasn't had a perfect past, he said that has nothing to do with the Anthony case.

Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said his clients know what it's like to be scrutinized by the public, and they don't want the man who found their granddaughter to be treated unfairly.

"Personal issues versus what happened in regard to the discovery of Caylee's remains are two different things, and they want to give him the chance to be full and complete about what happened," Conway said.
Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon appeared to have their game faces on as the deposition began Thursday morning. Baez would only reveal that he expected the deposition would take all day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 19, 2009, 05:16:41 PM
http://barbarasblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/05/sister-helen-prejean-and-dennis-fritz.html

May 31, 2008

On Thursday, May 22, noted authors’ Dennis Fritz and Sister Helen Prejean, teamed up together in Chicago, Illinois, to speak at the Saint Vincent Catholic Church at DePaul University—against the arbitrary use of the death penalty.
This long-awaited event represented a powerful combination of these two people (along with other key, death penalty abolitionists), whose sole objective(s) are to bring about the much-needed, greater awareness against the use of the death penalty.

Sister Helen Prejean is the author of Dead Man Walking, which was turned into a major motion picture in the middle 90’s. Her later released book, The Death of Innocents, is a powerful and poignant masterpiece, that exposes the in-depth atrocities of the death penalty.
Sister Helen is a true-to-heart abolitionist, and is speaking all over the county about her unyielding convictions against the unfair use of the death penalty. Sister Helen so eloquently combines her powerful presence with a witty sense of humor and directness that radiates her southern charm and intelligence. Her determination, dedication, and fortitude are deeply embedded in her plight to abolish the death penalty.

Dennis Fritz, who is the author of Journey Toward Justice—the co-companion book to John Grisham’s The Innocent Man— has been touring the country and speaking out about wrongful convictions, and the unfair administration of the death penalty. A major motion picture under the direction of George Clooney, is now underway about Dennis and Ronnie Williamson’ case. Both men were falsely convicted of 1st Degree Capital Murder, and spent 12 years behind bars before DNA testing finally freed them.

To meet Dennis, you would never think that he had suffered through a 12 year, never-ending nightmare, as such. His strength, fortitude, and courage are Dennis’ blessings to everyone around him. Today, his zest for life and liberty is greater than it has ever been. Dennis lives each and everyday of his life to the fullest, with a positive attitude and caring for other people—that is very rare in today’s society. Now, he finally gets to meet Sister Helen Prejean!
After Sister Helen and Dennis were picked up at the O’Hare International Airport by Elliot Slosar and Jennifer Bishop ( bulldog abolitionist’s for the State of Illinois ), they immediately had lunch at Giordano’s Pizza.
The excitement could be felt throughout the restaurant, as each of the dynamos for justice conversed and celebrated their long-awaited meeting. After lunch, the group traveled to the historic site of the St. Vincent DePaul Catholic Church, where Sister Helen and Dennis would speak that evening to an overwhelming crowd of supporters.

While Sister Helen was speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Dennis got a wonderful tour of Chicago by the one-and-only, Jennifer Bishop. Afterwards, everyone met for dinner at a local nearby restaurant.

Dennis got to meet other powerful abolitionists such as Andrea Lyon and her son, Will, Jennifer’s sister, Jeanne, Private Detective, Mort Smith, Dominick Fortunato, and Bill Bishop—Jennifer’s husband.
(snipped)

I wonder why I am having a strong dislike for Chicago, Il.............

Thank you, CECE.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 19, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

I was gonna ask if you been over there.I was like   ::MonkeyEek::. It seem to load faster.
I still say Casey is gonna need her own website before this case is over.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: That could be!  It took me a bit to navigate around there, but I did eventually find the cases. Why do they want to mess with an old lady, me?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

We don't like change, do we TUPELO?!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
http://www.mortsmith.com/

(http://www.mortsmith.com/images/suits.jpg)

Illinois Licensed Private Investigator #115-000975

Mortimer "Mort" Smith, M.A., is an Illinois Licensed Private Detective. He specializes in criminal defense investigations and cases involving civil rights violations. Mr. Smith is a consultant to criminal defense investigators and attorneys on matters concerning criminal defense investigations. He is the co-founder and instructor of the Certified Criminal Defense Investigation Program at DePaul University. Mr. Smith teaches trial preparation investigation to 2nd and 3rd year law school students at the Center for Justice in Capital Cases/DePaul University College of Law and Bluhm Legal Clinic/Northwestern University College of Law.

Mr. Smith has been an investigator for over 20 years. He has provided investigative services for hundreds of defendants locally and nationally. He has provided investigative services for many citizens who were abused and otherwise wronged by police officers. He is the former Chief Investigator for the Cook County Public Defender's Murder Task Force and former Chief Investigator for the Illinois Capital Resource Center (now the Capital Litigation Division) of the Office of the State Appellate Defender. In 1993, Mr. Smith was selected to be the Chief Investigator for the Office of the Inspector General/DCFS where he developed the investigation unit that investigates wrongdoings by employees of that agency. Mr. Smith has been a faculty member for the Clarence Darrow Death Penalty College since 2003. Additionally, Mr. Smith is the Chair of the Investigator Division of the Illinois Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (IACDL) and writes a quarterly column in the IACDL newsletter discussing issues surrounding criminal defense investigations.

(snipped)

thanks cece ...anyone connected with Baez or Lyons already has a strike against him in my book. Just another freeloader getting his face in the media because of Caylee's murder.....scum all of them!!  I am no fan of Kronk and have never hid the fact......but all this dirt digging on people is LOW. Kronk looks like he has aged since he got involved.......the Anthony Curse. I am glad he found Caylee...just wish he had done it sooner and I still think what I think about hwat he did, his reasons and timing....that hasn't changed. But I do feel badly for him. Glad we see another stand up attorney involved in this case (besides those on the prosecution side of course)...so far I see the Morgan Law Firm, Mark Nejame and now this attorney that is standing by Kronk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?

Of course they knew........    ::MonkeyDevil2:: IMO
I can't wait until the karma bus catches up with the A's.

me too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 05:36:52 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

thanks tupelo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 19, 2009, 05:38:29 PM


Hi cece...and thanks....but Elvis must be turning over in his grave right now ::MonkeyTongue::

oops!  So sorry, Sunny.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

don't forget Sea Searcher.   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 05:38:29 PM
The Orange County Clerk of Court site has been under construction and is now back up, in a totally different format. Just so you know, when searching the check fraud case, the case number is now 2008-CF-013331-A-O, they added the A.     

Nothing new on the civil case.

Murder charges activity:

11/13/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
11/13/2009 State's Witness List
12/11/2009 Hearing (9:30 AM)
01/21/2010 Hearing (10:00 AM)

Check Fraud Charges:
11/02/2009 Notice of Hearing
12/11/2009 Hearing (9:30 AM)
12/18/2009 CANCELED Hearing (10:00 AM) Canceled
01/25/2010 Trial (10:00 AM)

were we/us/you/anyone aware of the hearing cancellation for 12/18?If so on what motion? I need to go look for my calendar I guess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 05:42:43 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html

Kronk Coming Back For Another Day Of Tesitmony

Former Meter Reader Quiet, Calm

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Roy Kronk is coming back for a second day of depositions in the case against Casey Anthony.

Kronk spent hours on Thursday in the closed-door testimony and is scheduled for another day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 05:48:40 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21661564/detail.html
New Anthony Defense Team Member Seen
P.I. Looking Into Past Of Man Who Found Caylee's Remains

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 3:30 pm EST November 19, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The man who found the remains of Caylee Anthony was deposed on Thursday by Casey Anthony's defense team, which has added a private investigator to its lineup.
Casey Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were discovered in December by Roy Kronk in a wooded area near the Anthony family's east Orange County home.

As the man who reported finding Caylee's body twice, Kronk is a key witness for the prosecution, and a possible target for the defense.

Kronk first reported finding something suspicious in the woods near the Anthonys' home on Aug. 11, 2008, but after three phone calls, a deputy came out and said he found nothing. That deputy, Richard Cain, was later fired from the Sheriff's Office for lying to his superiors about his encounter with Kronk.
They're trying to defend a first-degree murder charge and they'll ask the questions they want to ask, and we'll answer them and we'll be done," Kronk's attorney, David Evans, said.

A new member of the defense team was seen entering the courtroom on Thursday. Mort Smith is a Chicago-based private investigator who teaches at DePaul University, the same school where fellow defense team member Andrea Lyon teaches.

Smith has been digging into Kronk's personal life for the past several months in an effort to uncover information that might discredit the former meter reader, or at least cast doubt on his story of how he found Caylee.

Anthony's attorneys are likely to ask Kronk about why he returned to the woods and whether someone may have tipped him off that the body was there.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty in her daughter's death, saying a baby sitter took her child. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008, about a month after she was last seen alive.

Kronk, who was recently fired from his job as an Orange County meter reader, has not talked publicly since granting an interview to "Good Morning America" in January.

Watch Local 6 for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 19, 2009, 05:56:15 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?

Trivia:   I may be mistaken, but I think I have seen him accompanying Ms. Lyon and sitting behind her in court during [ at least ] the two last court sessions that she has been present for in Orlando.  I don't thgink this guy is a brand new participant - but I may be mistaken ... lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 19, 2009, 05:57:07 PM
** think **


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 05:57:14 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-roy-kronk-tells-wesh-hes-thankful-to-have-a-lawyer.html
Casey Anthony: Roy Kronk says he's thankful to have a lawyer -- deposition will have a second part
posted by halboedeker on Nov 19, 2009 5:31:35 PM
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It was the day of the meter reader.

Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains, was deposed today by Casey Anthony's attorneys. There will be a second day of questioning, probably after Thanksgiving. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Kronk told WESH-Channel 2 that he's thankful to have a lawyer despite not having a job. Kronk suffered a neck and shoulder injury while working at a warehouse job he took to avoid the notoriety of the Anthony case. Doctors said he shouldn't return to work, and the county later fired him.

David Evans is representing Kronk pro bono, WESH's Bob Kealing noted.

"I'm very thankful for what he's doing for me and appreciate it very much that he didn't abandon me at this time," Kronk told WESH.

Evans told WFTV-Channel 9's Kathi Belich, "I didn't feel comfortable leaving him without representation, so I'm going to stand by Roy."

The county paid $12,000 in legal bills for Kronk. He won't be reimbursing the county, Belich said. "The county says his tenacity saved taxpayers further expense with more searches and a possibly more difficult prosecution," Belich said. "He's not perfect, but his defense attorney says that's not relevant."

WESH anchor Martha Sugalski set up today's story by describing it as a daylong grilling.
Evans described "a slow, methodical process with a lot of questions about Kronk's personal life," Kealing said. Evans told WESH the close questioning was understandable in a first-degree murder case. "I'm sure that they're going to ask him what he had for breakfast," Evans told WESH.

Belich asked if the defense had gotten into personal, unrelated information. "They're just asking their questions. We don't want to comment in the middle of a deposition," Evans said.

A pretrial hearing on Casey Anthony's check-fraud trial is set for Dec. 11, and that trial is set for Jan. 25, WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl said. A pretrial hearing in her murder trial is set for Jan. 21, Opsahl added.

WESH's Sugalski noted that Dominic Casey, the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, is scheduled to be deposed by the defense team on Dec. 16.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 19, 2009, 06:03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzAGXFLv1E&feature=email

Joy Wray has candlelight vigil.....Parody ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzAGXFLv1E&feature=email

Joy Wray has candlelight vigil.....Parody ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey Seeme!   ::MonkeyJnBox::
I with Ono,do you think this new investigator is the guy we have been seeing with Lyons at the hearings?I think it might be. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 19, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzAGXFLv1E&feature=email

Joy Wray has candlelight vigil.....Parody ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey Seeme!   ::MonkeyJnBox::
I with Ono,do you think this new investigator is the guy we have been seeing with Lyons at the hearings?I think it might be. 

I'm pretty sure he has been at past hearings, yes. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 19, 2009, 06:34:20 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?

Trivia:   I may be mistaken, but I think I have seen him accompanying Ms. Lyon and sitting behind her in court during [ at least ] the two last court sessions that she has been present for in Orlando.  I don't thgink this guy is a brand new participant - but I may be mistaken ... lol

I think you are right. We discussed him being a law student. He was there the last court session and probably more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:07:02 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21661209/detail.html

Anthony Motion Wants Kronk Treated As Suspect
UPDATED: 6:47 pm EST November 19, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's attorney filed a new motion to treat Roy Kronk, the former meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains, as a suspect in her death.

The motion, filed late Thursday, came after Kronk spent the day giving a deposition behind closed doors to the defense. It asks the court to allow the defense to introduce "prior bad acts" by Kronk.

Anthony attorney Jose Baez offered no specifics about the deposition, but Kronk and his attorney said Baez was polite all day and was "not dragged through the mud."

"I haven't done anything wrong and I maintained that all along," Kronk said after deposition.

His attorney, David Evans, said in a news release: "In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior."

Kronk will come back for a second day of depositions in the case against Casey Anthony.

"We're not playing around," Baez said.

Images: Timeline Of Caylee, Casey Anthony Case | Images: Photos Of Caylee

Kronk's attorney dismissed the motion, saying the defense is looking for someone else to point a finger at.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, Caylee. Kronk found Caylee's remains in December 2008 in woods near the Orange County home where the Anthonys live.

Before the motion was filed, an attorney for Kronk said there are some things in Kronk's past that he isn't proud of, but those things have nothing to do with his finding of Caylee's remains. The attorney said his client has always been honest about finding the missing toddler and how he made the discovery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-meter-reader-suspect-20091119,0,7427179.story

Casey Anthony case: Defense points fingers at Roy Kronk as potential murder suspect

Casey Anthony's defense team claims in a motion filed late today that Roy Kronk — the former Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains — is "equally likely to be responsible for the death of the child."

Now, the attorneys are asking a judge to allow evidence of the Kronk's prior bad acts be presented to a jury when the case goes to trial next year. The defense team gathered this information from interviews with two of Kronk's ex-wives, his son and a daughter of another ex-girlfriend.

So far, the information could not be verified by the Orlando Sentinel. The defense offered no evidence that linked Kronk to Caylee Anthony prior to the child's disappearace.

In the motion, the defense team wants to present:

Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."

Evidence showing his "history of abusing, restraining, and holding women against their will."

Evidence suggesting "Kronk has, in the past, used duct tape for the purposes of restraining women."

Evidence indicating he is "involved in an imaginary world of fantasy and violence."

A statement that shows Kronk knew the location of Caylee's remains and "indeed may have had possession or control of them in November 2008, weeks before he alerted law enforcement on Dec. 11, 2008."

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee. The toddler was reported missing in July 2008.

Kronk's attorney, Dave Evans, issued a statement tonight.

"As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished," he wrote in an e-mail.

Kronk called detectives after he found the toddler's remains less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County on Dec. 11. He told authorities that he had tried to alert them of a suspicious bag in the area four months earlier but his tips were shrugged off by deputies.

The defense claims investigators never considered Kronk as a possible suspect and only focused on Casey Anthony. Her case is based on circumstantial evidence.

Her attorneys say they have uncovered "circumstantial evidence which tends to indicate that Roy M. Kronk, and not Miss Anthony, is equally as likely to be responsible for the death of Caylee Anthony."

And, the defense says it raises reasonable doubt as to their client's guilt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21667923/detail.html

Motion: Kronk Could Have Killed Caylee
Anthony's Defense Says Meter Reader Has History Of Abuse, Restraining Women

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 6:58 pm EST November 19, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
Just after wrapping up the first day of his deposition, Casey Anthony's defense team has filed a motion alleging the man who found Caylee Anthony's remains could be responsible for the toddler's death.

Defense attorney Jose Baez filed the motion "to introduce prior bad acts and other circumstantial evidence pertaining to Roy Kronk" around 5 p.m. Thursday. The motion lays out the defense's strategy for the first time and claims a third party is responsible for Caylee's death.

The motion claims that Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader that discovered Caylee's remains in December 2008, has a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape as well as holding them against their will. Caylee's remains were discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony family home.

The motion also alleges that Kronk could have a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls.

The defense said it interviewed two of Kronk's ex-wives and his son.

One ex said Kronk kidnapped her and held her for two weeks against her will using duct tape to restrain her.

The defense also claimed Kronk knew the location of Caylee's remains and may have had possession of them in November 2008.

The defense said the prosecution only has circumstantial evidence against Anthony in the first-degree murder case against her, and according to Florida law, for circumstantial evidence to prevail, all other options must be ruled out.

The motion asks the court "to allow Anthony to introduce at trial circumstantial evidence tending to indicate that a third party, and not Miss Anthony, is equally likely to be responsible for the death of the child Caylee Marie Anthony."

These allegations come the same day Kronk was deposed for several hours and the defense team unveiled its newest member, Mort Smith, a private investigator and professor at DePaul University.

Kronk's attorney, David Evans, issued a news release Thursday evening stating his client is a witness, not a suspect.

"Shortly after adjourning the deposition, the Anthony defense team filed a Motion, Memorandum of Law, and accompanying materials suggesting that Roy Kronk, the individual who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported his find to law enforcement agencies, should be considered a suspect in the murder of Caylee Anthony," Evans said. "He voluntarily appeared today and truthfully responded to all questions asked by Anthony's attorney. He has cooperated fully with law enforcement from Day One. He has nothing to hide, and has hidden nothing."

Evans said Kronk has always understood he may become a target of the defense.

"In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior," Evans said. "The State will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings. As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished."

Kronk first reported finding something suspicious in the woods near the Anthonys' home on Aug. 11, 2008, but after three phone calls, a deputy came out and said he found nothing. That deputy, Richard Cain, was later fired from the Sheriff's Office for lying to his superiors about his encounter with Kronk.

Kronk is expected to be a key witness for the prosecution, but the defense apparently hired Smith to dig through Kronk's personal life.

Kronk's deposition will continue on Friday.

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/21665738/index.html
video report


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:19:28 PM
http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/19/baez_questioning_kronk_about_recovery_of_caylee39s_remains.html

 Defense Says Kronk May Have Killed Caylee
Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:02:32 PM

Reported By Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- For the first time, Casey Anthony’s lawyers are pointing the finger at someone else.

They're identifying Roy Kronk as a person who may have killed Caylee.

In a motion filed late Thursday afternoon, the defense said:

    * they have evidence Kronk has a possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls
    * that he has used duct tape to restrain women
    * that he has a history of abusing and restraining women

The defense wants to grant what's called third party status to Kronk.
   
Essentially, they’re saying the evidence against Anthony is circumstantial, and there's just as much circumstantial evidence against Kronk, so they want to introduce his background in court.

Shortly after the motion being filed by Anthony's defense team, Kronk's attorney, David Evans, released the following statement.

"Today, the Casey Anthony defense team commenced, but did not complete, the deposition of Roy Kronk in the State v. Casey Anthony case. Shortly after adjourning the deposition, the Anthony defense team filed a Motion, Memorandum of Law, and accompanying materials suggesting that Roy Kronk, the individual who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported his find to law enforcement agencies, should be considered a suspect in the murder of Caylee Anthony.

Mr. Kronk is a witness, not a suspect. He voluntarily appeared today and truthfully responded to all questions asked by Anthony's attorney.  He has cooperated fully with law enforcement from Day One.  He has nothing to hide, and has hidden nothing.

It is the nature of criminal defense to attempt to find someone to blame for a crime other than the person charged. Mr. Kronk has understood from the beginning that the defense might attempt to cast suspicions in his direction--because that's what defense attorneys do.  In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior. 

The State will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings. As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated.  In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished."

We’re still going over the documents and will have much more throughout the evening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-meter-reader-suspect-20091119,0,7427179.story

Casey Anthony case: Defense points fingers at Roy Kronk as potential murder suspect

Casey Anthony's defense team claims in a motion filed late today that Roy Kronk — the former Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains — is "equally likely to be responsible for the death of the child."

Now, the attorneys are asking a judge to allow evidence of the Kronk's prior bad acts be presented to a jury when the case goes to trial next year. The defense team gathered this information from interviews with two of Kronk's ex-wives, his son and a daughter of another ex-girlfriend.

So far, the information could not be verified by the Orlando Sentinel. The defense offered no evidence that linked Kronk to Caylee Anthony prior to the child's disappearace.

In the motion, the defense team wants to present:

Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."

Evidence showing his "history of abusing, restraining, and holding women against their will."

Evidence suggesting "Kronk has, in the past, used duct tape for the purposes of restraining women."

Evidence indicating he is "involved in an imaginary world of fantasy and violence."

A statement that shows Kronk knew the location of Caylee's remains and "indeed may have had possession or control of them in November 2008, weeks before he alerted law enforcement on Dec. 11, 2008."

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee. The toddler was reported missing in July 2008.

Kronk's attorney, Dave Evans, issued a statement tonight.

"As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished," he wrote in an e-mail.

Kronk called detectives after he found the toddler's remains less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County on Dec. 11. He told authorities that he had tried to alert them of a suspicious bag in the area four months earlier but his tips were shrugged off by deputies.

The defense claims investigators never considered Kronk as a possible suspect and only focused on Casey Anthony. Her case is based on circumstantial evidence.

Her attorneys say they have uncovered "circumstantial evidence which tends to indicate that Roy M. Kronk, and not Miss Anthony, is equally as likely to be responsible for the death of Caylee Anthony."

And, the defense says it raises reasonable doubt as to their client's guilt.

Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:24:10 PM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:25:12 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 19, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
CeCe thank you for this latest info regarding Mort Smith.  This may have something to do with Conway's statement about how the Anthonys felt about Kronk. They knew all along that his past was being delved into. Just another cover up by them, IMO. They are such irritating liars, IMO. With that said, what could this guy, Mort, have unveiled about Kronk that will be damaging?

Trivia:   I may be mistaken, but I think I have seen him accompanying Ms. Lyon and sitting behind her in court during [ at least ] the two last court sessions that she has been present for in Orlando.  I don't thgink this guy is a brand new participant - but I may be mistaken ... lol

I think you are right. We discussed him being a law student. He was there the last court session and probably more.

 Lyons, Baez , Conway and all of them are prime examples of folks that use their profession to IMO mock the ordinary citizen. They mock the law also cause they have found and exploited every loophole there is. They think nothing of exposing completely innocent people, they delight in providing chapter and verse of any witnesses frailties , they brazenly accuse others with no foundation, they often fabricate alternate versions of the crimes their clients commit all for what? To prove that they can, to exonerate worthless, guilty scum. I don't know how they sleep at night, but I suppose they lay their head on a down pillow far away from the back alleys where the rapist they got off on a technicality assaults a teenager walking home. I guess when that happens they can proudly defend them again and blame society, "we" didn't help that guy out of his depressed lifestyle, poor education etc.
As far as this case, every single person that touches it get filthy. Their names and reputations damaged because of a selfish, lying, maniacal family. The attys. are in it for the fame and money. justice for Caylee is  not even a blip on their radar, thank goodness for the State of Fl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:27:57 PM


Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!

This just makes me sick, Sunny.  I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:29:38 PM
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20091119/BREAKINGNEWS/91119030/1006/NEWS01/Motion++Kronk+could+have+killed+Caylee
Motion: Kronk could have killed Caylee
WKMG LOCAL 6 • November 19, 2009
Just after wrapping up the first day of his deposition, Casey Anthony's defense team has filed a motion alleging the man who found Caylee Anthony's remains could be responsible for the toddler's death, according to a report by FLORIDA TODAY news partner WKMG Local 6 News.
Defense attorney Jose Baez filed the motion around 5 p.m. Thursday. The motion lays out the defense's strategy for the first time and claims a third party is responsible for Caylee's death.

The motion claims that Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader that discovered Caylee's remains in December 2008, has a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape as well as holding them against their will. Caylee's remains were discovered in a wooded area near the Anthony family home.

The motion also alleges that Kronk could have a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls.

The defense said it interviewed two of Kronk's ex-wives and his son.

One ex said Kronk kidnapped her and held her for two weeks against her will using duct tape to restrain her.

The defense also claimed Kronk knew the location of Caylee's remains and may have had possession of them in November 2008.

The defense said the prosecution only has circumstantial evidence against Anthony in the first-degree murder case against her, and according to Florida law, for circumstantial evidence to prevail, all other options must be ruled out.
Kronk first reported finding something suspicious in the woods near the Anthonys' home on Aug. 11, 2008, but after three phone calls, a deputy came out and said he found nothing. That deputy, Richard Cain, was later fired from the Sheriff's Office for lying to his superiors about his encounter with Kronk.

These allegations come the same day Kronk was deposed for several hours and the defense team unveiled its newest member, Mort Smith, a private investigator and professor at DePaul University.

Kronk is expected to be a key witness for the prosecution, but the defense apparently hired Smith to dig through Kronk's personal life.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the Caylee's death. Caylee's grandmother reported the toddler missing in July 2008, one month after she was last seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:30:23 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're right, Trimm.  We saw it coming, but I am still fuming over it.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:31:40 PM


Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!

This just makes me sick, Sunny.  I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

So I guess some of this is coming from when he was accused of kidnapping his girlfriend years ago,which he never was charged for.
I hope Casey Anthony burns in he!!.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You're right, Trimm.  We saw it coming, but I am still fuming over it.   ::MonkeyMad::

Me too.    :gaah: :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: mizjay on November 19, 2009, 07:40:36 PM


Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!

This just makes me sick, Sunny.  I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

So I guess some of this is coming from when he was accused of kidnapping his girlfriend years ago,which he never was charged for.
I hope Casey Anthony burns in he!!.   ::MonkeyCool::

  ::MonkeyMad::ya know kronk was prolly one of those guys that managed to hang out in the backwoods for major parts of his workday. just doing nothing getting paid. There's major reward money, he's got nothing better to do than poke around near the A's neighborhood. He sees something, LE shines him on, it rains, Caylee isn't found so he goes back and "finds" her again.
Now his life will be destroyed all for the hope and a prayer that one juror will have doubt that only Kc could have done this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:41:08 PM


Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!

This just makes me sick, Sunny.  I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

So I guess some of this is coming from when he was accused of kidnapping his girlfriend years ago,which he never was charged for.
I hope Casey Anthony burns in he!!.   ::MonkeyCool::

I'll second that one, Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 07:43:21 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thanks for the updates, I have to say I didn't think they would go this far with Kronk. I will say there is a part of me that is shocked, granted I always felt funny feelings with this man, but with that said, this is beyond absurd.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 07:45:32 PM


Thanks cece...well now we know who they are trying to throw under the bus!! ::MonkeyNoNo::  Kronk sure doesn't look like a 10 to me!!

This just makes me sick, Sunny.  I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
This turn of events, would surely make a person think twice about doing a good deed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 19, 2009, 07:52:13 PM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 07:52:59 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21667923/detail.html

Motion: Kronk Could Have Killed Caylee
Anthony's Defense Says Meter Reader Has History Of Abuse, Restraining Women

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009
UPDATED: 7:41 pm EST November 19, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:53:37 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thanks for the updates, I have to say I didn't think they would go this far with Kronk. I will say there is a part of me that is shocked, granted I always felt funny feelings with this man, but with that said, this is beyond absurd.

I'm with you, NoRose.  This is beyond absurd! 
I certainly wouldn't want my past twisted & drug through the mud (not that there would be that much).  LOL.  But, I'm sure someone could put quite a spin on anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:55:53 PM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:57:40 PM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thanks for the updates, I have to say I didn't think they would go this far with Kronk. I will say there is a part of me that is shocked, granted I always felt funny feelings with this man, but with that said, this is beyond absurd.

Lyons is in it to win it,at all cost.
I don't put anything past them.They won't give up this gravy train without a fight.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 07:58:55 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-meter-reader-suspect-kro20091119,0,2560121.story

Statement from Roy Kronk attorney David Evans

Following is the complete and unedited statement issued by Roy Kronk's attorney, David Evans, about allegations made by Casey Anthony's defense team. The statement was e-mailed shortly before 6:30 p.m. Thursday:

Today, the Casey Anthony defense team commenced, but did not complete, the deposition of Roy Kronk in the State v. Casey Anthony case. Shortly after adjourning the deposition, the Anthony defense team filed a Motion, Memorandum of Law, and accompanying materials suggesting that Roy Kronk, the individual who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported his find to law enforcement agencies, should be considered a suspect in the murder of Caylee Anthony.

Mr. Kronk is a witness, not a suspect. He voluntarily appeared today and truthfully responded to all questions asked by Anthony's attorney. He has cooperated fully with law enforcement from Day One. He has nothing to hide, and has hidden nothing.

It is the nature of criminal defense to attempt to find someone to blame for a crime other than the person charged. Mr. Kronk has understood from the beginning that the defense might attempt to cast suspicions in his direction--because that's what defense attorneys do. In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior.

The State will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings. As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished.

David Evans,

Attorney for Roy Kronk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 07:59:06 PM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 08:05:05 PM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2009, 08:05:12 PM
O/T news conference on Shaniya....Mcneill charged with rape and murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 08:06:12 PM
O/T news conference on Shaniya....Mcneill charged with rape and murder.
   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 08:18:46 PM
O/T news conference on Shaniya....Mcneill charged with rape and murder.
   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Thank-you
yes HLN said she was raped and suffocated (cause of death)
they are charging the guy with first degree murder


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzAGXFLv1E&feature=email

Joy Wray has candlelight vigil.....Parody ::MonkeyConfused::
Speaking of candlelight vigils.....Joy is holding one at the remains scene on Dec. 11th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 08:24:49 PM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW

rose I am in shock!! they have accused so many others !!THEY  tried to ruin everyones elses  lifes like Jesse, amy and others!!! to save the murdering  wench in Jail!!! the real killer is in custody. I wonder what the prosecution is thinking!! are they rolling laughing! at yet another  rediculous motion filed by baez!! that makes  him look like the total idiot!! this is so tragic for kronk!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 08:27:07 PM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW

rose I am in shock!! they have accused so many others !!THEY  tried to ruin everyones elses  lifes like Jesse, amy and others!!! to save the murdering  wench in Jail!!! the real killer is in custody. I wonder what the prosecution is thinking!! are they rolling laughing! at yet another  rediculous motion filed by baez!! that makes  him look like the total idiot!! this is so tragic for kronk!!!
I'm done saying that nothing surprises me anymore, this did, I was thinking Jesse, Tony or Ricardo going under the bus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: cece on November 19, 2009, 08:30:16 PM
O/T news conference on Shaniya....Mcneill charged with rape and murder.
   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Thank-you
yes HLN said she was raped and suffocated (cause of death)
they are charging the guy with first degree murder

And I hope the mother gets murder charges, as well.
(Sorry for off topic)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 19, 2009, 08:45:43 PM
As usual JSM is a day late and a dollar short, but if they are trying to pin this on Kronk is a load of crap.

"IF" he did duct tape an old girlfriend, was it with the Henkel duct tape that was found on the gas can and on poor Caylee?

Did Kronk break into the shed and steal the gas can? Did he steal the tape from the "impentratable" fortress of the Ant's backyard? NO he didn't, I know my opinion about him as being a person just looking for Caylee has not been a majority opinion, but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death.

Baez, Lyon and this new dude can throw crap at the wall and see what sticks and it isn't going to work.

JMO JSM  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
duh is right!!  what else can they  say? not quilty??? come on!! how can  they figure  anything other than guilty !! that was a stupid incompetent comment on  bozoz's part. He is a snake going way out of his way to attempt to get casey freed. Oh if such was the case!!  hell will  and freeze over


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 08:53:04 PM
As usual JSM is a day late and a dollar short, but if they are trying to pin this on Kronk is a load of crap.

"IF" he did duct tape an old girlfriend, was it with the Henkel duct tape that was found on the gas can and on poor Caylee?

Did Kronk break into the shed and steal the gas can? Did he steal the tape from the "impentratable" fortress of the Ant's backyard? NO he didn't, I know my opinion about him as being a person just looking for Caylee has not been a majority opinion, but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death.

Baez, Lyon and this new dude can throw crap at the wall and see what sticks and it isn't going to work.

JMO JSM  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM
I agree, but look what those accusations can do to a person. Even if they can prove he didn't do any of those things, the seed has been planted, and this can ruin his reputation in some people's eyes  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
Baez is also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.
That's the smartest move the defense could make.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 19, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW

In order for the defense to be able to bring this in, wouldn't at least some of the things they're saying have to be more than "could have"s? I mean, it says the 2 ex wives were the ones saying it, but was he ever charged and found guilty of anything, I wonder? And if not, how can they just use hearsay as their proof? I'd like to hear something from someone other than a jilted ex, if there's something to it.

I have been iffy about Kronk too at times, but I don't think he had a single thing to do with the death of Caylee! No, that's KC, all the way!

Sad tho, because after this, I don't think Kronk will ever have a chance at a decent job again and he can thank everyone, from KC & her pathetic defense team to her sorry excuse as parents!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
As usual JSM is a day late and a dollar short, but if they are trying to pin this on Kronk is a load of crap.

"IF" he did duct tape an old girlfriend, was it with the Henkel duct tape that was found on the gas can and on poor Caylee?

Did Kronk break into the shed and steal the gas can? Did he steal the tape from the "impentratable" fortress of the Ant's backyard? NO he didn't, I know my opinion about him as being a person just looking for Caylee has not been a majority opinion, but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death.

Baez, Lyon and this new dude can throw crap at the wall and see what sticks and it isn't going to work.

JMO JSM  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM
joesmama
how true and!! did kronk put the coffin flies in caseys car? did he  say! they havent even found her clothes yet? did he tell casey to party for 31 days so that he could be accused!! sounds stupid huh !! no more stupid than insinuating he killed caylee. what would be his motive.  everything all the lies point to casey any your right they are trying to throw all these motions out in hopes it will stick. what a snake baez is!! what happened to the nanny did it and than it was jesse because he was obcessed with her. and than it was amy whom realy was the nanny OMG!! Who is next to accuse the well deserving grandparents wouldnt be surprised.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Gizzie, that's just it with accusations like that, it will be very hard to find a job, and people will look at him differently. Look at what all happened with Zenaida Gonzales  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 09:02:18 PM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW
gizzie

In order for the defense to be able to bring this in, wouldn't at least some of the things they're saying have to be more than "could have"s? I mean, it says the 2 ex wives were the ones saying it, but was he ever charged and found guilty of anything, I wonder? And if not, how can they just use hearsay as their proof? I'd like to hear something from someone other than a jilted ex, if there's something to it.

I have been iffy about Kronk too at times, but I don't think he had a single thing to do with the death of Caylee! No, that's KC, all the way!

Sad tho, because after this, I don't think Kronk will ever have a chance at a decent job again and he can thank everyone, from KC & her pathetic defense team to her sorry excuse as parents!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
so true poor guy!! casey and her parents along with baez have done nothing but set them selves on a mission to destroy anyone to set casey free to make a name for himself!!! he is so power and status hungry!! IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 19, 2009, 09:09:52 PM
As usual JSM is a day late and a dollar short, but if they are trying to pin this on Kronk is a load of crap.

"IF" he did duct tape an old girlfriend, was it with the Henkel duct tape that was found on the gas can and on poor Caylee?

Did Kronk break into the shed and steal the gas can? Did he steal the tape from the "impentratable" fortress of the Ant's backyard? NO he didn't, I know my opinion about him as being a person just looking for Caylee has not been a majority opinion, but I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death.

Baez, Lyon and this new dude can throw crap at the wall and see what sticks and it isn't going to work.

JMO JSM  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM
I agree, but look what those accusations can do to a person. Even if they can prove he didn't do any of those things, the seed has been planted, and this can ruin his reputation in some people's eyes  ::MonkeyNoNo::
You are right No Rose, but I really think the SA has something up their sleeve and are holding it tightly until they HAVE to let it out. I don't know the whole story of the girlfriend, as I am way behind. But  I really think a jury will see past Kronk's past and look at what happened to Caylee and the evidence of the duct tape coming from George's shed, being on George's gas cans and George's own testimony that they key was hidden and no one could get in the shed EXCEPT KC when she had Tony L break into it. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: joesamas mama on November 19, 2009, 09:12:59 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Nite Monkeys, I am going to bed, this week has whooped me. I will catch up here tomorrow. I hope I didn't offend anyone about my opinions about Mr Kronk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 19, 2009, 09:21:28 PM
This whole thing with Kronk is ridiculous - what are they thinking?  Are they going to say Kronk took Caylee from Zenaida?  Yeah that's it - Zenaida kidnapped Caylee away from Casey and then Kronk kidnapped Caylee away from Zenaida - unless I am missing something the whole thing is absurd.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 19, 2009, 09:22:56 PM
This whole thing with Kronk is ridiculous - what are they thinking?  Are they going to say Kronk took Caylee from Zenaida?  Yeah that's it - Zenaida kidnapped Caylee away from Casey and then Kronk kidnapped Caylee away from Zenaida - unless I am missing something the whole thing is absurd.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
They might as well  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 09:22:56 PM
I watched the Michael King trial, he kidnapped, raped and shot to death Denise Amber Lee. During the trial, MK's lawyers stood up and named a friend of his, who happened to be at the shooting range with MK on the day of her death, and said that the friend was the one who committed the crime. That man had just testified and was sitting in the court room when this happened. Well, of course that accusation didn't fly and neither will this BS against Kronk. Grasping is what they are doing, and very poorly I might add. I really don't know how these people look at themselves in the mirror each day knowing they are doing so much harm to so many innocent people and then go and face Casey, the murderer of her own flesh and blood, 2 1/2 year old Caylee. They all make me sick, literally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: loca on November 19, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Nite Monkeys, I am going to bed, this week has whooped me. I will catch up here tomorrow. I hope I didn't offend anyone about my opinions about Mr Kronk.
josemama
you didnt offend me !! you have the right to express your feelings!! good night!!
tomorrow is another day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 19, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
I wish there was a PI investigating Lyon and Smith and Baez, and all their sorry azzes. I am sure there is some stuff in their background that they would not want to be brought to light. Probably some kinky stuff, drugs, and worse. JMO

I felt from the first Krunk was just somebody that wanted to find Caylee and couldn't get anyone to listen to him. I have been through a similar experience, even though at the time I was working for LE. I kept shoving and shoving and trying and finally I was proved right. It is just the facts, and the way things work sometimes.

They have tried to blame Jesse, Ricardo, Amy, and NOW Krunk. I have said before Thank God he finally got them to look. Where would this case be now??? The Anthony, dam* they sorry souls, would still be the sympathetic grieving grandparents. I knew last night when they were making their appeal for them not to blame someone for past indiscretions  because they knew how it felt, the defense was ready to screw him good. Sorry no good people, all of them.

The proper perp is in the Orange County Jail. The SA knows it! The defense knows it! The Anthonys knows it. And GOD knows it. JMODO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 19, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
I watched the Michael King trial, he kidnapped, raped and shot to death Denise Amber Lee. During the trial, MK's lawyers stood up and named a friend of his, who happened to be at the shooting range with MK on the day of her death, and said that the friend was the one who committed the crime. That man had just testified and was sitting in the court room when this happened. Well, of course that accusation didn't fly and neither will this BS against Kronk. Grasping is what they are doing, and very poorly I might add. I really don't know how these people look at themselves in the mirror each day knowing they are doing so much harm to so many innocent people and then go and face Casey, the murderer of her own flesh and blood, 2 1/2 year old Caylee. They all make me sick, literally.

You are so right Tupelo they are doing a very poor job at grasping you can't write soap operas like this BS.  The reason they can look in the mirror is because all they see when they do is dollar signs  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 19, 2009, 09:43:20 PM
Gizzie, that's just it with accusations like that, it will be very hard to find a job, and people will look at him differently. Look at what all happened with Zenaida Gonzales  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yup, once it's out there, it's too late, and especially when it's online and probably in every newspaper in Orlando. Best thing he could do when this is over is move out of town, far away from this mess!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And that probably won't do him any good either. I sure wish Baez would consider a guilty plea in the murder trial instead of the fraud. We all know she's guilty, as does he!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gizzie on November 19, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
I wish there was a PI investigating Lyon and Smith and Baez, and all their sorry azzes. I am sure there is some stuff in their background that they would not want to be brought to light. Probably some kinky stuff, drugs, and worse. JMO

I felt from the first Krunk was just somebody that wanted to find Caylee and couldn't get anyone to listen to him. I have been through a similar experience, even though at the time I was working for LE. I kept shoving and shoving and trying and finally I was proved right. It is just the facts, and the way things work sometimes.

They have tried to blame Jesse, Ricardo, Amy, and NOW Krunk. I have said before Thank God he finally got them to look. Where would this case be now??? The Anthony, dam* they sorry souls, would still be the sympathetic grieving grandparents. I knew last night when they were making their appeal for them not to blame someone for past indiscretions  because they knew how it felt, the defense was ready to screw him good. Sorry no good people, all of them.

The proper perp is in the Orange County Jail. The SA knows it! The defense knows it! The Anthonys knows it. And GOD knows it. JMODO 

I wonder what the A's have up their sleeves, after almost coming to Kronk's defense like that? Everyone else, they've just about pounced on the idea that "here's the killer". Something's up, and I don't think it's just the throwing under the bus. They have ulterior motives for everything they do. Just can't fathom what it could possibly be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 19, 2009, 10:14:12 PM
HOLY COW..what is the defense thinking...so he has kinky sex...doesnt mean he is a killer. I would come back with demation of character if i were Kronk...they are basically saying he killed Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 19, 2009, 10:31:34 PM
Baez is also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.
That's the smartest move the defense could make.

Where did you see that? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 19, 2009, 10:36:11 PM
I wish there was a PI investigating Lyon and Smith and Baez, and all their sorry azzes. I am sure there is some stuff in their background that they would not want to be brought to light. Probably some kinky stuff, drugs, and worse. JMO

I felt from the first Krunk was just somebody that wanted to find Caylee and couldn't get anyone to listen to him. I have been through a similar experience, even though at the time I was working for LE. I kept shoving and shoving and trying and finally I was proved right. It is just the facts, and the way things work sometimes.

They have tried to blame Jesse, Ricardo, Amy, and NOW Krunk. I have said before Thank God he finally got them to look. Where would this case be now??? The Anthony, dam* they sorry souls, would still be the sympathetic grieving grandparents. I knew last night when they were making their appeal for them not to blame someone for past indiscretions  because they knew how it felt, the defense was ready to screw him good. Sorry no good people, all of them.

The proper perp is in the Orange County Jail. The SA knows it! The defense knows it! The Anthonys knows it. And GOD knows it. JMODO 

I wonder what the A's have up their sleeves, after almost coming to Kronk's defense like that? Everyone else, they've just about pounced on the idea that "here's the killer". Something's up, and I don't think it's just the throwing under the bus. They have ulterior motives for everything they do. Just can't fathom what it could possibly be.

The Anthonys know that everyone understands they are behind this stunt- Cindy's emails made it clear that she wanted to dig up ( as in manufacture) any dirt on Kronk. Now she wants to make a statement that will distance herself from the motion. Sorry Cindy, we're not all as stupid as you.
They're all a bunch of sharks circling, trying to draw blood. The Jury will not be impressed if any of this 'background' is introduced, which I doubt. Baez is so incredibly stupid, it gets hard to 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 19, 2009, 10:37:12 PM
OOPS- hit submit too soon.
It gets hard to credit Baez with any sense with these stupid poorly written motions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 19, 2009, 10:38:11 PM
How does Baez going after Kronk so strongly fit in with the A's saying they don't want Kronk drug around in the mud?

What's going on?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 19, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 11:34:18 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

How Kronk could be a Suspect
November 19th, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Western Observr on November 19, 2009, 11:36:28 PM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



Fortunately, even though the Anthonys are cunning, they are all STUPID. 
They get caught out lying every time they open their mouths, they think they are so clever and the SA has to try and keep a straight face while they ramble on.  If you read GA's depo in one sitting you need a break. Try reading CA's it is agony...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 19, 2009, 11:53:06 PM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



Fortunately, even though the Anthonys are cunning, they are all STUPID. 
They get caught out lying every time they open their mouths, they think they are so clever and the SA has to try and keep a straight face while they ramble on.  If you read GA's depo in one sitting you need a break. Try reading CA's it is agony...

I could only take Cindy's depo once, even reading her words I could here her voice, it's worse than fingers on the chalkboard.  I've been through Georgie's a couple of times now and have to believe the FBI when they said that George is a guy that knows alot about alot of things, or something to that effect.  I take great pleasure in knowing that one day I will get to watch him on the stand, under oath, faced with the hard visual evidence.  He will not hold up, his world will crumble and I hope that his temper gets the best of him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 19, 2009, 11:53:11 PM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/111909memorandum-kronk/indexGallery.htm
Jose Baez Memorandum on Roy Kronk, November 18, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NCMike on November 20, 2009, 12:00:20 AM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/111909memorandum-kronk/indexGallery.htm
Jose Baez Memorandum on Roy Kronk, November 18, 2009

Thanks Tupe !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 20, 2009, 12:17:02 AM
I wish there was a PI investigating Lyon and Smith and Baez, and all their sorry azzes. I am sure there is some stuff in their background that they would not want to be brought to light. Probably some kinky stuff, drugs, and worse. JMO

I felt from the first Krunk was just somebody that wanted to find Caylee and couldn't get anyone to listen to him. I have been through a similar experience, even though at the time I was working for LE. I kept shoving and shoving and trying and finally I was proved right. It is just the facts, and the way things work sometimes.

They have tried to blame Jesse, Ricardo, Amy, and NOW Krunk. I have said before Thank God he finally got them to look. Where would this case be now??? The Anthony, dam* they sorry souls, would still be the sympathetic grieving grandparents. I knew last night when they were making their appeal for them not to blame someone for past indiscretions  because they knew how it felt, the defense was ready to screw him good. Sorry no good people, all of them.

The proper perp is in the Orange County Jail. The SA knows it! The defense knows it! The Anthonys knows it. And GOD knows it. JMODO 
Yes, Fannie, and the jury will know it as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 12:27:23 AM
Do we have a link to the Defense motion?

Well, as soon as Conway and the Anthony's spouted their BS a few days ago we knew something like this was coming.  They will do anything to discredit Kronk.

I'm not nearly as pi**ed as I thought I would be.  I needed some comic relief and read through George's depo. again.  That guy really is an idiot.  I don't see how he makes it through the day with his inability to remember anything.  Hopefully he won't remember to look both ways when crossing the street to his next court appearance and will get HIT by an Orlando City Bus!

I'm still wondering just what evidence he and Cindy thought they would hide with the 27 bags of concrete to pour his new 4" slab.  I got the feeling from reading this again that Ashton knows exactly what they were trying to hide, we just haven't seen yet.



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/111909memorandum-kronk/indexGallery.htm
Jose Baez Memorandum on Roy Kronk, November 18, 2009

Thank you TUPELO. Another informative and humorous article.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 12:30:10 AM
I wish there was a PI investigating Lyon and Smith and Baez, and all their sorry azzes. I am sure there is some stuff in their background that they would not want to be brought to light. Probably some kinky stuff, drugs, and worse. JMO

I felt from the first Krunk was just somebody that wanted to find Caylee and couldn't get anyone to listen to him. I have been through a similar experience, even though at the time I was working for LE. I kept shoving and shoving and trying and finally I was proved right. It is just the facts, and the way things work sometimes.

They have tried to blame Jesse, Ricardo, Amy, and NOW Krunk. I have said before Thank God he finally got them to look. Where would this case be now??? The Anthony, dam* they sorry souls, would still be the sympathetic grieving grandparents. I knew last night when they were making their appeal for them not to blame someone for past indiscretions  because they knew how it felt, the defense was ready to screw him good. Sorry no good people, all of them.

The proper perp is in the Orange County Jail. The SA knows it! The defense knows it! The Anthonys knows it. And GOD knows it. JMODO 
Yes, Fannie, and the jury will know it as well.

I do so agree, BLUE. I wish the trial was tomorrow. This whole thing is getting so far past ridiculous!! But I want that felony conviction for the theft charges first, so I guess we will have to wait. You are up late tonight. So am I. Way past my bedtime, but hard to sleep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: luvmyboys on November 20, 2009, 12:44:40 AM
Omg I just now saw that they are going to try to pin the murder of caylee on kronck r u kidding me. Just exactly what would they say that happen. I mean for real. Did he go in there house look up all the info on how to make cloroform and neck breaking and all kinds of thíngs that was looked up on the computet in casey's house. Lol.  And was he driving casey car. Wth is wrong with them so called lawyers? Let me ask you guys a question. When you have a lawyer ot 4 lol. Don't they have to really believe your story? I mean I am just asking but I thought your lawyer always had to believe what you tell them. Well I do NOT believe at all that casey's lawyers believe her. I don't care what they say. Her stories r straight BS imo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 12:54:11 AM
I just read the motion and I'm shaking my head....but I think they just don't want Kronk to testify, which without his testimony, they can go back to the story that someone placed Caylee in the woods while Casey was incarcerated and she can stick to the Zanny story. Yes, maybe Kronk did have some bad acts in his life, however, he was never convicted on any of the things that they are bringing up. I believe that most of what was said about him can not be proved as it is only hearsay. Why would someone not report to the police that they were bound with duct tape and beaten? If you feared for you child to be around him, why would you not report him? His son may have mixed up the dates or just made them up. It's all hearsay and no proof of anything. I'm still shaking my head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 12:58:16 AM
Oh yeah, and the part about Kronk receiving money.....well why aren't Cindy and George being blamed right along with Kronk? They have gained much more money than he and all for lying about anything and everything they can think of. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 01:03:15 AM
Oh yeah, and the part about Kronk receiving money.....well why aren't Cindy and George being blamed right along with Kronk? They have gained much more money than he and all for lying about anything and everything they can think of. 

Absolutely! They are the equivalent of the "Teflon Don" right now. I just wonder when the roof is crashing down on their heads? I am still believing, hoping and praying that it does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Miki Monkey on November 20, 2009, 01:09:04 AM
Hmm, does this mean that any defense team can ruin a persons life by innuendo and malicious accusations with no basis in fact.? Doesn't
the person so slandered have recourse in the courts for any negative outcome if the accusations prove absolutely false.? I am so shocked by these fools, I don't think Bozo is entirely happy with the way things are going.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 20, 2009, 01:14:47 AM
Oh yeah, and the part about Kronk receiving money.....well why aren't Cindy and George being blamed right along with Kronk? They have gained much more money than he and all for lying about anything and everything they can think of. 

Absolutely! They are the equivalent of the "Teflon Don" right now. I just wonder when the roof is crashing down on their heads? I am still believing, hoping and praying that it does.

I believe as well. In this case good will overcome evil and for that to happen, Cindy,George and Lee will pay. They should have been the ones to protect Caylee from her wicked mother and come to her defense. Their lives will be a living reminder of reaping what you sow. I agree, I wish the trial was tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 01:15:56 AM
Casey Anthony's defense filed a motion to get the court to allow testimony that Roy Kronk, the man who found Caylee's remains, should be a suspect in her death. Do you agree that Kronk should be considered a suspect?
Choice    Votes    Percentage of 372 Votes
Yes    35    9%
No    337    91%

http://cf.wesh.com/orl/sh/con_surveycontest_display/displaySurveyResults.cfm?contentid=21669097&sitekey=ORL&questionum=1&answer1=2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 01:50:40 AM
Casey Anthony's defense filed a motion to get the court to allow testimony that Roy Kronk, the man who found Caylee's remains, should be a suspect in her death. Do you agree that Kronk should be considered a suspect?
Choice    Votes    Percentage of 372 Votes
Yes    35    9%
No    337    91%

http://cf.wesh.com/orl/sh/con_surveycontest_display/displaySurveyResults.cfm?contentid=21669097&sitekey=ORL&questionum=1&answer1=2


I just voted.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:07:33 AM
A few court appearances ago Mac the Knife opened his yap.  Last court Judge Stan gave team Bobo till Feb to present the SA with the evidence that they had proof that someone did this which Mac flapped his gums about.  IMO they are doing his to Kronk as time is ticking for them to come up with the "put up or shut up" ruling that Judge Stan gave them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:33:48 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:36:09 AM
http://www.wptv.com/content/news/southpbc/story/Casey-Anthony-attorneys-to-name-Caylees-killer/4aufmUf7Xk2puygghaWhMg.cspx
Casey Anthony's defense names Caylee's killer
   Reported by: Paige Kornblue
Email: pkornblue@wptv.com
Photographer: Bob Leak
Last Update: 6:28 am
WEST PALM BEACH, FL -- The top lawyer for Casey Anthony is expected to publicly point the finger this morning at the man, they say, killed 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first degree murder in her daughter Caylee's death.

Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, is scheduled to appear exclusively on NBC's TODAY SHOW to point the finger at Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader who called authorities a number of times over several months in 2008 to report a lead in the search for Caylee.

Eventually, investigators followed up on Kronk's information and found the toddler's remains.   

According to recent reports, the motion filed Thursday by the defense claims Kronk has a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls and a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape.

The defense has asked that Palm Beach County be among the alternative venues for a trial that is expected by next summer.

The Today Show airs on WPTV NewsChannel 5 starting at 7:00 a.m.
Video at link.  http://www.wptv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=16194@wptv.dayport.com&navCatId=3


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:38:35 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/casey-anthony-defense-kronk-co.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony defense: Kronk could be killer
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ November 19, 2009 8:28 PM Permalink | Comments (1)
The defense team for accused child killer Casey Anthony is pointing to the former meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony's remains as the person who could be responsible for killing the toddler.

On the same day that Roy Kronk was questioned under oath by the Anthony defense team, lawyers representing the 23 year old filed a motion suggesting Kronk may be the one who killed Caylee. Kronk found Caylee's remains in the woods near the Anthony home last December. He claims he stumbled across them while relieving himself during a break from his shift as an Orange County meter reader.

In an email sent to WDBO, Kronk's lawyer, David Evans, said his client is "a witness not a suspect" and said he has "cooperated fully with law enforcement."

He said Miss Anthony's defense is trying to "find someone to blame other than the person who is charged."

But according to the Orlando Sentinel, the Anthony defense filed motions late Thursday claiming to have evidence that calls into question Kronk's past. It includes a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls; abuse towards women; using duct tape to restrain women; involvement in an imaginary world of violence and fantasy; and evidence that Kronk knew where Caylee's remains were weeks before he reported them.

In the email, Evans said the motions "have no basis in fact." He adds, "[Kronk] vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident he will be vindicated."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:41:40 AM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/casey-anthony-s-defense-points-to-meter-reader-74629.html
Casey Anthony's defense points to meter reader as alternative murder suspect
By Sarah Lundy and Willoughmariano

Orlando SentinelOrlando Sentinel
Updated: 6:30 a.m. Friday, Nov. 20, 2009
ORLANDO — Casey Anthony 's defense team is going after the former Orange County meter reader who discovered her daughter's remains, claiming there is circumstantial evidence that makes him "equally likely to be responsible for the death of the child."

Now, the attorneys are asking a judge to allow a jury to hear allegations of Roy Kronk's past wrongdoings, including inappropriate behavior with girls, use of duct tape to restrain women and holding women against their will.

Kronk's attorney, David Evans, said his client denies the allegations and understands this is Anthony's defense attorneys attempt to cast blame on someone other than their client.

"In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior," Evans said in an e-mail. "The State will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings."

So far, the information in the defense's motion, which included hundred of pages of interviews, could not be verified by the Orlando Sentinel. Law enforcement officials have cleared Kronk early in the investigation.

Transcripts of interviews with Kronk's two ex-wives, son, and a longtime live-in girlfriend's daughter depict the former meter reader as an untrustworthy man willing to resort to violence. No police reports or other supporting documentation were provided.
Ex-wives Jill Kerley and Crystal Sparks said Kronk physically attacked them. Sparks said she called police, but could not remember if she sought a restraining order. Kerley said he used duct tape to hold her against her will.

Both ex-wives said Kronk tells tall tales.

"I don't think he would know the truth if it hit him upside the head," said Kerley, who was briefly married to Kronk in the early 1990s.

Kronk's son Brandon Sparks said his father told him before Thanksgiving 2008 that he found Caylee Anthony's body and would be on television. Brandon Sparks shared the news with his wife.

"We both didn't pay any mind, though. We both thought it was far-fetched," Sparks said.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of daughter Caylee. The toddler was reported missing in July 2008. If convicted, Anthony could face the death penalty.

The legal request was filed late Thursday, moments after Kronk finished a day of questioning by defense attorneys at the State Attorney's Office. Another day will be scheduled soon.

"I know I haven't done anything wrong and so I have no reason to be fearful," Kronk said afterwards.
Kronk called detectives after he found the toddler's remains less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County on Dec. 11. He told authorities that he had tried to alert them four months earlier but his tips were shrugged off by deputies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-defense-points-to-roy-kronk-as-suspect.html
Casey Anthony: Defense points to Roy Kronk as suspect -- will that approach work?
posted by halboedeker on Nov 19, 2009 6:31:03 PM


Casey Anthony's defense team deposed Roy Kronk today.

But the major headline -- and most sensational development -- happened later: The defense team filed a motion pointing to former meter reader Kronk as a suspect in Caylee Anthony's murder. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in daughter Caylee's death. Kronk found Caylee's remains in December.

"Explosive allegations," WKMG-Channel 6 headlined the story. And so they were.

"Does meter reader Roy Kronk have his own history with young girls?" anchor Mike Garofalo asked.

Reporter Tony Pipitone said the defense was saying "that a third party is guilty of Caylee Anthony's murder -- and who would that third party be? How about meter reader Roy Kronk?"

Pipitone explained that defense investigators "interviewed Kronk's son, two ex-wives and the daughter of a girlfriend and tried to put together a circumstantial case that Roy Kronk is guilty."

WKMG highlighted these points in the motion: Kronk's history of inappropriate behavior with young girls; his history of abusing, restraining and holding women against their will; his use of duct tape to restrain women; and his knowledge of the location of Caylee's remains.

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing summed up the motion: "They are trying to paint him [Kronk] as a suspect rather than a witness." Kealing noted that the motion was "in direct contrast to everything we heard from Kronk and his attorney earlier today."

Kronk told WESH of the deposition, "I know that I haven't done anything wrong. So I don't have a reason to be fearful or troubled by any of this."

Kronk added that the defense team "was very nice and very respectful to me the whole day."

Jose Baez, Anthony's attorney, told WESH, "We're not playing around."

Kealing talked to Kronk's attorney, David Evans, about the motion that was filed late today. Evans told Kealing that the defense team obviously has to find another person to point a finger at, that it's Kronk, and that this development is unfortunate.
Pipitone offered analysis of the motion: "One big problem with that is that there's no evidence we know of that Roy Kronk knew Casey Anthony, had any contact with Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 06:51:08 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/19/baez_questioning_kronk_about_recovery_of_caylee39s_remains.html
 Defense Says Kronk May Have Killed Caylee
Friday, November 20, 2009 3:28:45 AM
Reported By Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- For the first time, Casey Anthony’s lawyers are pointing a big finger at former meter reader Roy Kronk.

Following an entire day’s deposition with Kronk, Jose Baez and company filed a motion just as the Clerk of Court's Office was closing.

In a motion filed late Thursday afternoon, the defense said:

    * they have evidence Kronk has a possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls
    * that he has used duct tape to restrain women
    * that he has a history of abusing and restraining women

It's a bombshell document with purported evidence and interviews with people in Kronk's past  -- his own family included.

"(Is there a suggestion that somehow your client is involved in Caylee Anthony's death?) No, no, no, no,” said David Evans, Kronk’s attorney.
(Did they ask you anything you felt was insulting or out of line?) Mr. Baez was very polite to me all day,” Kronk said. “He was very nice to me. And it was a very nice mood in there, so, it wasn't a bad day at all.”

At the exact moment he was answering News 13’s question, documents were being put on file with the Clerk of Courts.

“I haven't done anything wrong and I've maintained that the whole time,” Kronk said. “So I'm just telling them what my discoveries were and, you know, I know I haven't done anything wrong so I don't have a reason to be fearful or troubled by any of this.”

“We're trying to get to the bottom of everything,” Baez said. “We're asking very detailed questions. We are anxious to have all the answers.”

The defense team ended its motion by leaving nothing to the imagination, saying "Roy Kronk, and not Miss Anthony, is equally likely to be responsible for the death of Caylee Anthony."

Shortly after the motion being filed by Anthony's defense team, Evans released the following statement.

"Today, the Casey Anthony defense team commenced, but did not complete, the deposition of Roy Kronk in the State v. Casey Anthony case. Shortly after adjourning the deposition, the Anthony defense team filed a Motion, Memorandum of Law, and accompanying materials suggesting that Roy Kronk, the individual who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported his find to law enforcement agencies, should be considered a suspect in the murder of Caylee Anthony.
Mr. Kronk is a witness, not a suspect. He voluntarily appeared today and truthfully responded to all questions asked by Anthony's attorney.  He has cooperated fully with law enforcement from Day One.  He has nothing to hide, and has hidden nothing.

It is the nature of criminal defense to attempt to find someone to blame for a crime other than the person charged. Mr. Kronk has understood from the beginning that the defense might attempt to cast suspicions in his direction--because that's what defense attorneys do.  In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior. 

The State will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings. As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated.  In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished."

Thursday's deposition was not the first time Kronk has made statements about finding Caylee’s body:
Video Turning The Tables.  http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=1119KronkDepo_111920091023&cat=CAC&title=Turning%20The%20Tables
Video  Kronk Speaks To News 13 http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=000TPYQxKronkTalks_111920091203&cat=Local&title=Kronk%20Speaks%20To%20News%2013
Video  Kronk and Baez Arrive At Deposition. http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=000TPYQxKronkVO_111920091119&cat=Local&title=Kronk,%20Baez%20Arrive%20At%20Deposition


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 07:02:43 AM
Motions Filed Related To Kronk.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/111909kronk-motions/indexGallery.htm

Read Memorandum from Jose Baez
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/111909memorandum-kronk/indexGallery.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 07:04:21 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

How Kronk could be a Suspect
November 19th, 2009

Thanks Tupelo.   ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 20, 2009, 07:09:28 AM
Casey Anthony's defense filed a motion to get the court to allow testimony that Roy Kronk, the man who found Caylee's remains, should be a suspect in her death. Do you agree that Kronk should be considered a suspect?
Choice    Votes    Percentage of 372 Votes
Yes    35    9%
No    337    91%

http://cf.wesh.com/orl/sh/con_surveycontest_display/displaySurveyResults.cfm?contentid=21669097&sitekey=ORL&questionum=1&answer1=2


Thanks Tupelo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: can on November 20, 2009, 07:14:30 AM
Morning Trim.  See you are hard at work this morning.  Thanks for all you bring!  ::MonkeyCheer3::

Baez and his antics are outrageous!   ::MonkeyMad::

Fail to see what the Anthony's are up to.  Whatever, it can't be good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 20, 2009, 07:19:22 AM
Why in the world would Kronk tell his son before Thanksgiving that he had found Caylees body and that he would be on TV...stupid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: flamom on November 20, 2009, 07:21:49 AM
Thanks Trimm!!
I was just reading that article in the Palm Beach Post and about fell outta my chair ( gotta watch out for the new hip replacement  ::MonkeyHaHa:: )
I guess we all have some bones in the closet, but duct taping women??
I just dont believe that he killed Caylee.. how preposterous.. first Jesse, Ricardo.. now Kronk.. maybe they will suddenly get a clue and try to get a plea bargain like LWOP instead of shooting at the moon..
If not it will be a heck of a spectacle to watch in court, if it end up in WPB I will make SURE I get there..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 07:22:26 AM
Why in the world would Kronk tell his son before Thanksgiving that he had found Caylees body and that he would be on TV...stupid.

Well just because KC's lawyers said it, doesn't make it so!!!

Ughhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 07:26:39 AM
Why, if KC is innocent, would she NOT report her daughter missing? According to what KC's lawyers just said, Kronk could have done it just as well, why then would KC not say a thing? If someone else took her ya'd think KC would have mentioned that in the first place. Instead she makes up a bonus nanny story, btw, what happened to that? Guess her lawyers just confirmed that was an indeed another KC lie??  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: zoeandme on November 20, 2009, 07:44:56 AM
Why, if KC is innocent, would she NOT report her daughter missing? According to what KC's lawyers just said, Kronk could have done it just as well, why then would KC not say a thing? If someone else took her ya'd think KC would have mentioned that in the first place. Instead she makes up a bonus nanny story, btw, what happened to that? Guess her lawyers just confirmed that was an indeed another KC lie??  ::MonkeyMad::


Exactly, QM.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 07:57:46 AM
I don't care what the "lawyers" say, cause (well, like they said) it will all come out in court!! The TRUTH will come out in court, and all their BS will be seen for what it is! This just shows me even more that KC is guilty, cause first they seemed interested in a family member, than it was an ex boyfriend, when those theories couldn't pan out they are going to their last resort-Kronk. Are they desperate now???  :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 08:06:39 AM
I don't care what the "lawyers" say, cause (well, like they said) it will all come out in court!! The TRUTH will come out in court, and all their BS will be seen for what it is! This just shows me even more that KC is guilty, cause first they seemed interested in a family member, than it was an ex boyfriend, when those theories couldn't pan out they are going to their last resort-Kronk. Are they desperate now???  :smt102

Hi QM.  I think they're desperate.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

They will still have to explain why KC said Zanny took Caylee.    Even if his past isn't pretty, its going to be hard for the defense to pin this on Kronk.     How do they get from Zanny taking Caylee as KC states  - to Kronk killing Caylee?    Nah - it won't fly.   jmo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 08:18:02 AM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW

rose I am in shock!! they have accused so many others !!THEY  tried to ruin everyones elses  lifes like Jesse, amy and others!!! to save the murdering  wench in Jail!!! the real killer is in custody. I wonder what the prosecution is thinking!! are they rolling laughing! at yet another  rediculous motion filed by baez!! that makes  him look like the total idiot!! this is so tragic for kronk!!!
I'm done saying that nothing surprises me anymore, this did, I was thinking Jesse, Tony or Ricardo going under the bus.

Same here.    I'm shocked.    Pointing the finger at Kronk sure will make an interesting book or movie, won't it?    I really do wonder if the defense team is only worried about getting rich off the story.

Does anyone know who is paying for Kronk's lawyer?   Wasn't the State paying at one time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 08:23:28 AM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!

You mean they aren't going to pin this on Kronk?     ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 08:28:18 AM
I don't know Sassy, but you could be right about making it a more interesting story. It could help sell books in the future maybe. Kronk may not have a great past, but how would he have ever come in contact with Caylee in the first place, kill her, then manage to put her dead body in the trunk of KC's car and get her to not say a thing? And then when faced with the questions completely lie about everything for him? How on earth could he have done that? Why would KC have not even told her own parents that some "stranger" took her little daughter and killed her (and then went about his life while KC took the blame)? I just can't buy any of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 08:37:22 AM
http://barbarasblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/05/sister-helen-prejean-and-dennis-fritz.html

May 31, 2008

On Thursday, May 22, noted authors’ Dennis Fritz and Sister Helen Prejean, teamed up together in Chicago, Illinois, to speak at the Saint Vincent Catholic Church at DePaul University—against the arbitrary use of the death penalty.
This long-awaited event represented a powerful combination of these two people (along with other key, death penalty abolitionists), whose sole objective(s) are to bring about the much-needed, greater awareness against the use of the death penalty.

Sister Helen Prejean is the author of Dead Man Walking, which was turned into a major motion picture in the middle 90’s. Her later released book, The Death of Innocents, is a powerful and poignant masterpiece, that exposes the in-depth atrocities of the death penalty.
Sister Helen is a true-to-heart abolitionist, and is speaking all over the county about her unyielding convictions against the unfair use of the death penalty. Sister Helen so eloquently combines her powerful presence with a witty sense of humor and directness that radiates her southern charm and intelligence. Her determination, dedication, and fortitude are deeply embedded in her plight to abolish the death penalty.

Dennis Fritz, who is the author of Journey Toward Justice—the co-companion book to John Grisham’s The Innocent Man— has been touring the country and speaking out about wrongful convictions, and the unfair administration of the death penalty. A major motion picture under the direction of George Clooney, is now underway about Dennis and Ronnie Williamson’ case. Both men were falsely convicted of 1st Degree Capital Murder, and spent 12 years behind bars before DNA testing finally freed them.

To meet Dennis, you would never think that he had suffered through a 12 year, never-ending nightmare, as such. His strength, fortitude, and courage are Dennis’ blessings to everyone around him. Today, his zest for life and liberty is greater than it has ever been. Dennis lives each and everyday of his life to the fullest, with a positive attitude and caring for other people—that is very rare in today’s society. Now, he finally gets to meet Sister Helen Prejean!
After Sister Helen and Dennis were picked up at the O’Hare International Airport by Elliot Slosar and Jennifer Bishop ( bulldog abolitionist’s for the State of Illinois ), they immediately had lunch at Giordano’s Pizza.
The excitement could be felt throughout the restaurant, as each of the dynamos for justice conversed and celebrated their long-awaited meeting. After lunch, the group traveled to the historic site of the St. Vincent DePaul Catholic Church, where Sister Helen and Dennis would speak that evening to an overwhelming crowd of supporters.

While Sister Helen was speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Dennis got a wonderful tour of Chicago by the one-and-only, Jennifer Bishop. Afterwards, everyone met for dinner at a local nearby restaurant.

Dennis got to meet other powerful abolitionists such as Andrea Lyon and her son, Will, Jennifer’s sister, Jeanne, Private Detective, Mort Smith, Dominick Fortunato, and Bill Bishop—Jennifer’s husband.
(snipped)

I wonder why I am having a strong dislike for Chicago, Il.............

Thank you, CECE.  ::MonkeyKiss::

hee, hee, hee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:40:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Good Morning trim and all Monks!!  So Kronk is back on the chopping block today....guess things won't be a civilized today as yesterday ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:41:33 AM
http://www.wptv.com/content/news/southpbc/story/Casey-Anthony-attorneys-to-name-Caylees-killer/4aufmUf7Xk2puygghaWhMg.cspx
Casey Anthony's defense names Caylee's killer
   Reported by: Paige Kornblue
Email: pkornblue@wptv.com
Photographer: Bob Leak
Last Update: 6:28 am
WEST PALM BEACH, FL -- The top lawyer for Casey Anthony is expected to publicly point the finger this morning at the man, they say, killed 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first degree murder in her daughter Caylee's death.

Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, is scheduled to appear exclusively on NBC's TODAY SHOW to point the finger at Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader who called authorities a number of times over several months in 2008 to report a lead in the search for Caylee.

Eventually, investigators followed up on Kronk's information and found the toddler's remains.   

According to recent reports, the motion filed Thursday by the defense claims Kronk has a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls and a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape.

The defense has asked that Palm Beach County be among the alternative venues for a trial that is expected by next summer.

The Today Show airs on WPTV NewsChannel 5 starting at 7:00 a.m.
Video at link.  http://www.wptv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=16194@wptv.dayport.com&navCatId=3

OHMYGAWD!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 08:43:24 AM
I don't know Sassy, but you could be right about making it a more interesting story. It could help sell books in the future maybe. Kronk may not have a great past, but how would he have ever come in contact with Caylee in the first place, kill her, then manage to put her dead body in the trunk of KC's car and get her to not say a thing? And then when faced with the questions completely lie about everything for him? How on earth could he have done that? Why would KC have not even told her own parents that some "stranger" took her little daughter and killed her (and then went about his life while KC took the blame)? I just can't buy any of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I really don't think anyone will buy it.     ::MonkeyNoNo::   And who is to say that Kronk's ex-wives are telling the truth?   Maybe they are just vindictive and have their own ax to grind.    As slimy as this case has been, wouldn't surprise me that someone is paying those women to say those nasty things.   You just never know with this bunch.....     Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
I agree with you Sassy!  (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/Siamese_Cat_Hug_by_aku_kitsune.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:50:53 AM
Why, if KC is innocent, would she NOT report her daughter missing? According to what KC's lawyers just said, Kronk could have done it just as well, why then would KC not say a thing? If someone else took her ya'd think KC would have mentioned that in the first place. Instead she makes up a bonus nanny story, btw, what happened to that? Guess her lawyers just confirmed that was an indeed another KC lie??  ::MonkeyMad::


QM...exactly...this is so bizarre....and desperate!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:52:05 AM
I don't care what the "lawyers" say, cause (well, like they said) it will all come out in court!! The TRUTH will come out in court, and all their BS will be seen for what it is! This just shows me even more that KC is guilty, cause first they seemed interested in a family member, than it was an ex boyfriend, when those theories couldn't pan out they are going to their last resort-Kronk. Are they desperate now???  :smt102

QM, I just said the same word describing this debacle...DESPERATE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:54:00 AM

Same here.    I'm shocked.    Pointing the finger at Kronk sure will make an interesting book or movie, won't it?    I really do wonder if the defense team is only worried about getting rich off the story.

Does anyone know who is paying for Kronk's lawyer?   Wasn't the State paying at one time?

Hi Sassy.....same here....IIRC the attorney was standing by Kronk...which led me to believe he was pro bono for the depos's...but Kronk better get a attorney now!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 08:54:37 AM
Why, if KC is innocent, would she NOT report her daughter missing? According to what KC's lawyers just said, Kronk could have done it just as well, why then would KC not say a thing? If someone else took her ya'd think KC would have mentioned that in the first place. Instead she makes up a bogus nanny story, btw, what happened to that? Guess her lawyers just confirmed that was an indeed another KC lie??  ::MonkeyMad::


QM...exactly...this is so bizarre....and desperate!!!

Ooops just realized I spelled that wrong, obviously I meant to say a bogus nanny story
That was BOGUS  BOGUS   A BOGUS NANNY STORY  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:54:39 AM
Eyewitness News asked how the defense will fight the evidence of coffin flies that were found in Casey’s trunk.

“Do you believe coffin flies were in the trunk or are you telling us there weren't coffin flie?” Belich asked.

“I’m not going to comment,” Jose Baez responded.

“I think we're going to see them so how are you going to fight that?” asked Belich.

“I'm not going to comment on what we plan on doing. If that were the case, I might as well cash it in right now,” he said.

Eyewitness News learned that the defense isn’t finished. Baez plans to question Kronk again and said he's also considering a guilty plea in Casey's check fraud case which will be heard in January.

(snipped)

http://www.wftv.com/news/21664084/detail.html

Well...DUH!!!

You mean they aren't going to pin this on Kronk?     ::MonkeyRoll:: 

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:56:28 AM
I don't know Sassy, but you could be right about making it a more interesting story. It could help sell books in the future maybe. Kronk may not have a great past, but how would he have ever come in contact with Caylee in the first place, kill her, then manage to put her dead body in the trunk of KC's car and get her to not say a thing? And then when faced with the questions completely lie about everything for him? How on earth could he have done that? Why would KC have not even told her own parents that some "stranger" took her little daughter and killed her (and then went about his life while KC took the blame)? I just can't buy any of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If this weren't such a serious accusation it would be funny.... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 08:56:55 AM

Same here.    I'm shocked.    Pointing the finger at Kronk sure will make an interesting book or movie, won't it?    I really do wonder if the defense team is only worried about getting rich off the story.

Does anyone know who is paying for Kronk's lawyer?   Wasn't the State paying at one time?

Hi Sassy.....same here....IIRC the attorney was standing by Kronk...which led me to believe he was pro bono for the depos's...but Kronk better get a attorney now!!

I know.   Can you imagine going thru this hell?    ::MonkeyNoNo::    Before its all over, that man will be completely destroyed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 08:58:41 AM
Why, if KC is innocent, would she NOT report her daughter missing? According to what KC's lawyers just said, Kronk could have done it just as well, why then would KC not say a thing? If someone else took her ya'd think KC would have mentioned that in the first place. Instead she makes up a bogus nanny story, btw, what happened to that? Guess her lawyers just confirmed that was an indeed another KC lie??  ::MonkeyMad::


QM...exactly...this is so bizarre....and desperate!!!

Ooops just realized I spelled that wrong, obviously I meant to say a bogus nanny story
That was BOGUS  BOGUS   A BOGUS NANNY STORY  ::MonkeyDevil2::

LOL...don't worry...  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 09:01:42 AM
I don't know Sassy, but you could be right about making it a more interesting story. It could help sell books in the future maybe. Kronk may not have a great past, but how would he have ever come in contact with Caylee in the first place, kill her, then manage to put her dead body in the trunk of KC's car and get her to not say a thing? And then when faced with the questions completely lie about everything for him? How on earth could he have done that? Why would KC have not even told her own parents that some "stranger" took her little daughter and killed her (and then went about his life while KC took the blame)? I just can't buy any of it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I really don't think anyone will buy it.     ::MonkeyNoNo::   And who is to say that Kronk's ex-wives are telling the truth?   Maybe they are just vindictive and have their own ax to grind.    As slimy as this case has been, wouldn't surprise me that someone is paying those women to say those nasty things.   You just never know with this bunch.....     Just my opinion.

I remember hearing the story about him keeping his wife or girlfriend 'prisoner' a long time ago. Obviously nothing came of it....this is all a smoke screen...and when the smoke clears kc will still be guilty of murdering Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 20, 2009, 09:03:27 AM
 :cool: Kronk = Zanny

If this wasn't so pathetically ridiculous, it would be laughable. They have no defense, there are no other suspects, give it up...plead guilty as charged....
 ::MonkeyHang:: She is going down .... PERIOD! This isn't 'reasonable doubt' ... this is harassment-plain and simple and I hope Kronk sues everyones ass  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:07:07 AM
Thanks for the updates.Who didn't see this coming.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thanks for the updates, I have to say I didn't think they would go this far with Kronk. I will say there is a part of me that is shocked, granted I always felt funny feelings with this man, but with that said, this is beyond absurd.

It's low down & dirty and insulting to everyone's intelligence.  It doesn't even make reasonable sense;  The Defense must be trying to figure out a way to get a kindergarten class in the jury pool.  Boy, those billable hours are sure mounting up.  The stack must be sky high by now ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:14:15 AM
Evidence indicating Kronk's "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls."
To even make a statement like this is disturbing in itself, what is even going to be more disturbing if this is true. I just don't know what to say. And then the statement about duct tape. All I can say is the defense better be able to prove these accusations 100%, and even if they don't, they have destroyed Kronk's reputation by just making statements like this. I wouldn't even know what to say or do, if something was thrown at me and accusations accusing me of such things. WOW

I know what I'd say:   "Sue the bastards!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 09:16:21 AM
I guess I'm more naive than I ever thought cause I always thought it was law enforcement who named suspects, not the accuseds lawyer? Is this typical for lawyers to actually name another person, I mean aren't the accused pesons lawyers a bit biased when they're naming someone else? I don't recall OJ's lawyers actually naming someone else as a suspect, did I just forget?? Guess I'm just really stupid because I just don't recall this too much. Baez said "just cause the police said it, doesn't make it so" (something like that), and I say JUST CAUSE KC'S LAWYERS SAID IT, DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:19:01 AM
Morning Trim.  See you are hard at work this morning.  Thanks for all you bring!  ::MonkeyCheer3::

Baez and his antics are outrageous!   ::MonkeyMad::

Fail to see what the Anthony's are up to.  Whatever, it can't be good.

Hey Can.   ::ElfMonkey::

You are right about the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:20:08 AM
:cool: Kronk = Zanny

If this wasn't so pathetically ridiculous, it would be laughable. They have no defense, there are no other suspects, give it up...plead guilty as charged....
 ::MonkeyHang:: She is going down .... PERIOD! This isn't 'reasonable doubt' ... this is harassment-plain and simple and I hope Kronk sues everyones ass  ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:21:04 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Good Morning trim and all Monks!!  So Kronk is back on the chopping block today....guess things won't be a civilized today as yesterday ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:25:53 AM
OOPS- hit submit too soon.
It gets hard to credit Baez with any sense with these stupid poorly written motions.

I agree.   In fact, I don't think the Defense team is all that bright.   Wiley & crafty, but not that bright.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:30:54 AM
How does Baez going after Kronk so strongly fit in with the A's saying they don't want Kronk drug around in the mud?

What's going on?



Maybe they are trying to avoid being sued. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 09:31:51 AM
I just finished watching the Today Show video....these people are despicable.  This may be an effort to remove the DP.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34059278#34059278


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:32:45 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-defense-team-makes-morning.html
Casey Anthony: Defense team says it knows Casey Anthony isn't guilty of 'intentional first-degree murder'
posted by halboedeker on Nov 20, 2009 8:33:06 AM
The national morning programs usually preview movies ("Twilight") and television series. This morning, they previewed the latest twist in the Casey Anthony case. And some people would say the Anthony case is like a thriller with twists and surprises. The defense delivered a stunner Thursday.

Members of the defense team appeared on NBC's "Today" and CBS' "The Early Show." ABC's "Good Morning America" quickly recapped Thursday's major development: The defense is pointing to former meter reader Roy Kronk, who found Caylee Anthony's remains, as a possible suspect in the child's death. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in her child's death.

"The Early Show" held the Anthony story for the 7:30 half-hour, when attorney Linda Kenney Baden said there was as much incriminating evidence against Kronk as there is against Anthony. Baden cited the defense's interviews with two ex-wives of Kronk.

"These people have no motive or reason to lie," Baden said, a line sure to surprise anyone familiar with divorces.

"No one investigated any of this," Baden said. "The cops are trying to make a theory fit her. ... They never got Mr. Kronk's cell phone records. They didn't test his DNA. I mean we are four lawyers and two investigators and we've uncovered this. Why couldn't they?"

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez asked why Kronk would alert authorities to the remains if he had killed the child.

"It's easy to snatch a kid away," Baden said. "We see it in Florida every day."

Baden said, "We know our client is not guilty of intentional first-degree murder. We know the evidence has been compromised."

Rodriguez wondered why Baden had worded her statement that way -- "not guilty of intentional first-degree murder."

Baden said she didn't mean that Anthony is guilty of a lesser crime.
"Today" pushed the story into its first half-hour, which is reserved for the biggest news. The Anthony story preceded a segment on Oprah Winfrey's decision to end her television show in 2011.

Andrea Lyon and Jose Baez visited "Today" and said authorities should have investigated Kronk. An incredulous Matt Lauer asked, "Do you really think there is as much circumstantial evidence implicating Roy Kronk as there is implicating Casey Anthony?"

Lyon said, "He's the only who's been with the body. He's the only one who magically discovers it. He takes a day off the day before he discovers it again it in December. He calls his son a month ahead of time and says, 'I'm going to be on TV.' "

Lauer listed problems with Anthony's case: She lied, she partied, she didn't alert authorities for 31 days.

"Those facts will come at out trial," Baez said. "Everything will be cleared up. Everyone wants to try this case today. It's not going to get tried today."

"Good Morning America" started its Anthony story at 7:37 a.m. -- after a segment on Winfrey. No defense attorney appeared on that program.

Reporter Andrea Canning noted that Kronk's attorney, David Evans, "strongly denied" the defense's allegations. The prosecution had no comment, Canning added, but had said he did the right thing in the days after Caylee's remains were found.
Video   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/34059278#34059278


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
Tupelo....... wonder twin powers activate!     ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 09:37:05 AM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/caylee-anthony-defense-takes-aim-meter-reader/story?id=9134848

Caylee Anthony Defense Takes Aim at Meter Reader
Roy Kronk Found Caylee Anthony's Body but He Has Been Cleared of Involvement in Her Death
 By ANDREA CANNING and LEE FERRAN
Nov. 20, 2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:41:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Good Morning trim and all Monks!!  So Kronk is back on the chopping block today....guess things won't be a civilized today as yesterday ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 20, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
http://www.wptv.com/content/news/southpbc/story/Casey-Anthony-attorneys-to-name-Caylees-killer/4aufmUf7Xk2puygghaWhMg.cspx
Casey Anthony's defense names Caylee's killer
   Reported by: Paige Kornblue
Email: pkornblue@wptv.com
Photographer: Bob Leak
Last Update: 6:28 am
WEST PALM BEACH, FL -- The top lawyer for Casey Anthony is expected to publicly point the finger this morning at the man, they say, killed 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first degree murder in her daughter Caylee's death.

Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, is scheduled to appear exclusively on NBC's TODAY SHOW to point the finger at Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader who called authorities a number of times over several months in 2008 to report a lead in the search for Caylee.

Eventually, investigators followed up on Kronk's information and found the toddler's remains.   

According to recent reports, the motion filed Thursday by the defense claims Kronk has a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls and a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape.

The defense has asked that Palm Beach County be among the alternative venues for a trial that is expected by next summer.

The Today Show airs on WPTV NewsChannel 5 starting at 7:00 a.m.
Video at link.  http://www.wptv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=16194@wptv.dayport.com&navCatId=3

OHMYGAWD!!!!!

I hope Kronk has Morgan & Morgan's phone number handy!  After public accusations like that..I'd be suing everyone involved for all the money they were worth..and then whatever they made in the future.  Yep..no good deed goes unpunished..people will be thinking twice about ever getting involved in giving info in a case after this travesty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 09:44:20 AM
I have no idea if the claims are true or not, with inappropriate whatever with little girls, or the duct tape stories. But all I can say is if they are, what in the heck are the chances of a man finding Caylee, with this in his background, besides slim to none? wow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 09:44:47 AM
How come anything having to do with KC and why she "partied" while her daughter was missing has to wait till trial, yet they can go on national television today to point the finger at Mr. Kronk? Why does that accusation come out now but KC's story has to wait?? It's like everything they do and say is just plain, stupid. Or maybe I am, I don't know. I just don't get all this and do they really think anyone believes it? How about the evidence showing Kronk did it? Ugh, I should get out of here before I drive myself and everyone else nuts!! (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 09:53:34 AM
I have no idea if the claims are true or not, with inappropriate whatever with little girls, or the duct tape stories. But all I can say is if they are, what in the heck are the chances of a man finding Caylee, with this in his background, besides slim to none? wow

Well I sure hope they're not true, and the Bozo's better have proof to back it up, otherwise it's just one's word against another. It's kind of ironic that they will do the same things to Kronk that they say shouldn't be done to KC. Like I asked before, is it normal for lawyers to actually name another suspect? It's like "oh, KC's innocent until proven guilty, wait for the trial, yadda yadda yadda", then they come out and point a finger at another person as though they know he did it. It's just a very hypocritical thing for a defense lawyer to do. (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Ono on November 20, 2009, 09:54:45 AM
I just finished watching the Today Show video....these people are despicable.  This may be an effort to remove the DP.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34059278#34059278

Absurd;   I see Ms. Lyon has finally paid attention to her appearance.    She's a sneaky one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 09:55:25 AM
Really curious on the timing of this filing by the defense - Kronk as a suspect.  Kronk is due back today for furhter depositions.  If I were Kronk, now knowing that these clowns are trying to pin this on him and create a reasonable doubt, I would go with the story, "My girlfriend, who is a guard at the jail where Casey is locked up, over heard her tell her attoreny where the body was."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 20, 2009, 10:04:07 AM
To echo Sunny in Tx, "OH MY GAWD!!!"   ::MonkeyMad::
I just read about Baez and Co.  throwing Kronk under the bus.  WTH?  He may have a sketchy character, but for the love of Pete.... And this still doesn't explain Casey's behavior after the 16th of June, 2008.  The sweet little baby is gone and she doesn't tell anyone?  Who threatened her and her family to the point that she was unable to report this to LE?Don't try to blow smoke up my dress and tell me that Kronk was the kidnapper George was supposedly watching.  Didn't he claim that before the remains, George, were discovered?  If they were watching Kronk, wouldn't they have been able to find the body sooner?  There are too many holes in this story to be able to create reasonable doubt that Casey did it.
All I can say is,
31 DAYS, BAEZ, 31 DAYS---
WEASEL YOUR WAY OUT OF THAT ONE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 20, 2009, 10:04:31 AM
I remember hearing the story about him keeping his wife or girlfriend 'prisoner' a long time ago. Obviously nothing came of it....this is all a smoke screen...and when the smoke clears kc will still be guilty of murdering Caylee

*********************************
oh yea i remember this, it was like an old girlfriend who was trying to get away from her current boyfriend and he helped her get a way or something like that.
I dont even think i can watch those idiots on the morning show...how dare they point the finger at Kronk. They have proved they will stoop at anything. as far as a plea deal for the check fraud i wouldnt take a plea deal unless it includes a felony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 10:10:32 AM
:cool: Kronk = Zanny

If this wasn't so pathetically ridiculous, it would be laughable. They have no defense, there are no other suspects, give it up...plead guilty as charged....
 ::MonkeyHang:: She is going down .... PERIOD! This isn't 'reasonable doubt' ... this is harassment-plain and simple and I hope Kronk sues everyones ass  ::MonkeyMad::

AMEN!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 20, 2009, 10:14:51 AM
:cool: Kronk = Zanny

If this wasn't so pathetically ridiculous, it would be laughable. They have no defense, there are no other suspects, give it up...plead guilty as charged....
 ::MonkeyHang:: She is going down .... PERIOD! This isn't 'reasonable doubt' ... this is harassment-plain and simple and I hope Kronk sues everyones ass  ::MonkeyMad::

AMEN!

I will see your "AMEN" and raise you a DITTO!  I hope he sues Baez personally for defamation of character and Baez is left without a dime. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
Bill Sheaffer's take:

WFTV legal expert Bill Scheaffer says this is a low blow by Baez, who appears lost in his own case.

"The defense has continued to have a suspect de jour other than Casey Anthony," said Scheaffer.

The accusation came after depositions Thursday in the form of a motion to introduce "bad acts.

"In
the document, Baez accuses Kronk of strange behavior with young girls,
even using duct tape to bind them. All of the accusations stem from an
interview with a young daughter of one of Kronk's ex-girlfriends and
his ex-wife.

"This is beyond a pathetic attempt, this is a despicable act on the part of the defense in this case," said Scheaffer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21668948/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 10:15:03 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21673591/detail.html
Kronk's Ex-Wife: I Thought He Probably Killed Caylee
Casey Anthony, 23, Charged In Death Of Daughter

POSTED: Friday, November 20, 2009
UPDATED: 9:11 am EST November 20, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- An ex-wife of the former Orange County meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony told the CBS "Early Show" that she thought her ex-husband was responsible for or was involved in the girl's death.
In a taped video interview that was aired Friday on the "Early Show," Jill Kerley was asked about her former husband, Roy Kronk, who found Caylee's remains in December in a wooded lot near the Anthony family home in east Orange County.

Kronk was deposed Thursday by the defense team of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

"When you learned that Roy Kronk had found the remains of Caylee Anthony, what went through your mind?" a representative of Casey Anthony's defense team asked Kerley.

"That he had done it," she said.

"'Done it,' meaning?" the representative asked.
"He probably was the one that had murdered Caylee Anthony or had something to do with it," Kerley said.

Linda Kenney Baden, an attorney on Casey Anthony's defense team, said on the "Early Show" that Kerley's statements prove that authorities have not done their job in investigating Caylee's death.

"These people have no reason or motive to lie," said Kenney Baden, referring to Kerley and other people they have interviewed.

"But it's an ex-wife, who may have an ax to grind," said Maggie Rodriguez of the CBS "Early Show."

"Listen, one ex-wife is dying of cancer. This is like a death-bed statement. It's incredible," Kenney Baden said. "The point about this is that no one investigated any of this."

Casey Anthony lead defense attorney Jose Baez filed a motion following Kronk's deposition "to introduce prior bad acts and other circumstantial evidence pertaining to Roy Kronk."

The motion claims that Kronk has a history of abusing and restraining women with duct tape as well as holding them against their will. The motion also alleges that Kronk could have a history of inappropriate behavior with young girls.

One of Kronk's ex-wives said Kronk kidnapped her and held her for two weeks against her will using duct tape to restrain her.
The defense also claimed Kronk knew the location of Caylee's remains and may have had possession of them in November 2008.

The defense said the prosecution only has circumstantial evidence against Anthony in the first-degree murder case against her, and according to Florida law, for circumstantial evidence to prevail, all other options must be ruled out.

The motion asks the court "to allow Anthony to introduce at trial circumstantial evidence tending to indicate that a third party, and not Miss Anthony, is equally likely to be responsible for the death of the child Caylee Marie Anthony."

Kronk's attorney, David Evans, issued a news release Thursday evening stating his client is a witness, not a suspect.

"Shortly after adjourning the deposition, the Anthony defense team filed a Motion, Memorandum of Law, and accompanying materials suggesting that Roy Kronk, the individual who found Caylee Anthony's remains and repeatedly reported his find to law enforcement agencies, should be considered a suspect in the murder of Caylee Anthony," Evans said. "He voluntarily appeared today and truthfully responded to all questions asked by Anthony's attorney. He has cooperated fully with law enforcement from Day One. He has nothing to hide, and has hidden nothing."

Evans said Kronk has always understood he may become a target of the defense.

"In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior," Evans said. "The state will respond to these papers in due course in the criminal proceedings. As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished."
Kronk first reported finding something suspicious in the woods near the Anthonys' home on Aug. 11, 2008, but after three phone calls, a deputy came out and said he found nothing. That deputy, Richard Cain, was later fired from the Sheriff's Office for lying to his superiors about his encounter with Kronk.

Kronk is expected to be a key witness for the prosecution in the Casey Anthony case.

Casey Anthony, 23, has pleaded not guilty, originally claiming that a baby sitter had taken Caylee.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 10:17:03 AM
Kron's ex  Jill Kerley
(http://www.clickorlando.com/2009/1120/21673777_320X180.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 10:22:24 AM
Oh yea, he killed Caylee then did all he could to be sure they found her body! Seems to me if he did kill her, he had a good thing going and would have got away with it if they didn't find her body? I'm sure the defense will have an explanation for that, and they won't wait till trial with that explanation. Idiots! Sorry, that's just my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 10:23:31 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/20/kronks_exwives_discuss_alleged_abuse_in_new_defense_interviews.html
 Kronk’s Ex-Wives Discuss Alleged Abuse In New Defense Interviews
Friday, November 20, 2009 8:06:39 AM
Reported by Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- Allegations that former meter reader Roy Kronk may have been involved in Caylee Anthony’s death are not only coming from Casey’s defense team, they’re also coming from Kronk’s own family.

The defense filed an enormous motion with the court late Thursday.

It includes video of interviews with Kronk's family members.

In the motion, lawyers stop just short of saying they believe Kronk killed Caylee, and they've uncovered some extremely incriminating aspects of Kronk's past.
<snipped>
Kerkley talks about Kronk   http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=1119JillKerley_112020091213&cat=CAC&title=Jill%20Kerley%20Talks%20About%20Kronk

# April Applegate Hensley Interview   http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=1119AprilHensley_112020091207&cat=CAC&title=April%20Applegate%20Hensley%20Interview


# Crystal Sparks Interview  http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=1119KronkExWife_112020090153&cat=CAC&title=Crystal%20Sparks%20Interview


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 10:24:47 AM
 :gaah: :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: SunnyinTX on November 20, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
How come anything having to do with KC and why she "partied" while her daughter was missing has to wait till trial, yet they can go on national television today to point the finger at Mr. Kronk? Why does that accusation come out now but KC's story has to wait?? It's like everything they do and say is just plain, stupid. Or maybe I am, I don't know. I just don't get all this and do they really think anyone believes it? How about the evidence showing Kronk did it? Ugh, I should get out of here before I drive myself and everyone else nuts!! (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/nutsy.gif)

QM....good questions but unfortunately no answers available other than the defendant's attorneys are as nuts as the defendant is


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 10:31:24 AM
:gaah: :gaah:

(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/2b3c9d2d.gif)  I completely agree! (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/dislikesmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 10:32:27 AM
:gaah: :gaah:
I agree, but I'm going to say it, I sure wish someone besides Kronk found Caylee's remains, I really do. I don't feel that Kronk killed Caylee, by no means, the one who killed her is sitting in jail, but this still doesn't look good where I'm sitting. If there would have only been one person saying stuff, I would say she is lying, but when more than one is saying this, I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Regardless, with this stuff coming out, Kronk's reputation is tarnished, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 20, 2009, 10:42:26 AM
So after filing these CRAZY motions yesterday, the defence team jumps on a plane to hit all the am shows? I thought Kronks depo was to continue today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 10:51:58 AM
I see Casey lent MS Lyon the straight iron Zanny gave her.  WOnder if Lyon also borrowed her makeup this morning?

I still think this all comes down to Mac yappy in the one court appearance, the SA calling him out on it and them having till Feb to present the SA with the evidence.  As for the coffin flies found in the trunk all Bobo said on the interview is that it will be highly disputed.  Maybe Zanny put the flies in there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 10:54:03 AM
:gaah: :gaah:
I agree, but I'm going to say it, I sure wish someone besides Kronk found Caylee's remains, I really do. I don't feel that Kronk killed Caylee, by no means, the one who killed her is sitting in jail, but this still doesn't look good where I'm sitting. If there would have only been one person saying stuff, I would say she is lying, but when more than one is saying this, I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Regardless, with this stuff coming out, Kronk's reputation is tarnished, imo.

I agree with all you said NoRose. I too wish it was someone else who found her. Unfortunately it wasn't and the Bozo's are going to use anything they can to try to get KC off, even bringing someone else down. Since they have no where else to turn, this is their last resort. But seriously, why would Kronk go out of his way to make sure she was found if he was the one who did it? There is no way if someone else found Caylee, that Kronks name would have ever come up because there would have been nothing to lead to him. It all leads back to KC her car and the Ant home, no where else. So say a neighbor found her (who if they did, the Bozo's would now be accusing the neighbor) how would anything that LE found lead us to Kronk. It wouldn't, and we'd have never heard his name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 11:02:13 AM
QM, I really don't know what to say about all this. What bothers me very much, is the jury, if this is presented where there is reasonable doubt, it just takes one juror to buy it. But I have faith with the State's case, and I will leave it up to them to present a case where the jury finds Casey guilty. But to say this doesn't bother me, realistically this is not good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 11:08:39 AM
Go here and put in Kronk Jill......she's not perfect either.    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
QM, I really don't know what to say about all this. What bothers me very much, is the jury, if this is presented where there is reasonable doubt, it just takes one juror to buy it. But I have faith with the State's case, and I will leave it up to them to present a case where the jury finds Casey guilty. But to say this doesn't bother me, realistically this is not good.
Yup, you're right NoRose. That's what the Bozo's are counting on too. It truly sux that Kronk was the one who found her, but (to me) that doesn't make KC innocent nor does it wipe out all the evidence that points to only her. They say it's circumstantial, but I don't really agree. I mean, how many crimes are caught on video where it can be seen and there be no doubt what so ever? Just about none really. Most crimes have no video tapes, or even eyewitnesses. Very few have confessions. There is still probably alot we don't know about yet too, atleast I'm hoping so. They will just do and say anything to taint the jury pool, just like they accused the prosecution of doing. Again, hypocritical I think. Not that they even care if they are.
It doesn't matter what ex-wives or ex-girlfriends say, it matters what the evidence says with a little common sense thrown in. Why would Kronk lead LE to the body of the girl he killed, especially when he would have most definitely got away with it if someone else found her?? That doesn't make sense. Yes, the defense is going to want to find someone who doesn't like or trust Kronk, and they just very well may find one. But if everyone on that jury goes in there with an open mind and listens to the evidence and uses their common sense, I have no doubt that the correct verdict will come out!! I just hope I'm right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 11:22:29 AM
And if Brandon Sparks is Kronk's son, why does he not have his last name, why is there child support cases against a James Sparks for non payment but not any for Kronk? It seems he is a step son, not an adopted son.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 11:26:46 AM
Hi Monkeys. I usually just check in these days and lurk. But WTF??????? I cannot even believe this. Kronk killed Caylee. Well, make up your mind. Was it Zanny? Jesse? Kronk?

How much is Baez paying this lady?  ::MonkeyMad::

If this creates enough reasonable doubt to get that bitch off ... I cannot even go there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 20, 2009, 11:31:41 AM
This April Applegate, where is she being videotaped?  (Could it be jail?)  She's got a tattoo on her neck, and there is a lot of noise.   Why couldn't they pick a quieter location?  She didn't say anything too damning, in my humble opinion.  Just a lot of innuendo for the most part.  Also, I thought Baez was leading her. 
Here's a weird thing, though.  I looked up the Florida Dept. of Corrections database and April Hensley is an alias for Dianna Louise Paul and Dianna Louise Hensley.  (The offense is for child neglect.)  However, this person is 33, not 23.  The picture looked kind of like her, though.  Where does she live now?  I'm a little skeptical, okay, a lot skeptical. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 11:37:14 AM
Ok, let's play along ... How did Kronk get Caylee? I thought Zanny took her? How did evidence of decomp -- or to put it more bluntly -- how did Caylee's dead body end up in Casey's car while SHE WAS DRIVING IT all around town partying and stealing and shopping, etc.? Did Kronk plant the body there and Casey didn't realize she was driving around with "a dead body in the damn car"? Did Kronk also then remove the body and clean the trunk? Oh, and did Kronk make Casey not report her daughter missing for 31 days? Really? Really?   

GMAFB. This makes me want to scream.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 11:37:32 AM
Go here and put in Kronk Jill......she's not perfect either.    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis

Thanks Tupelo.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
Hi Monkeys. I usually just check in these days and lurk. But WTF??????? I cannot even believe this. Kronk killed Caylee. Well, make up your mind. Was it Zanny? Jesse? Kronk?

How much is Baez paying this lady?  ::MonkeyMad::

If this creates enough reasonable doubt to get that bitch off ... I cannot even go there.

Me either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am betting on the State.   ::MonkeyCool:: I think they have what they need.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 20, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
Hope this is new info...
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 11:51:33 AM
Go here and put in Kronk Jill......she's not perfect either.    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis

Yeah she sure isn't!! - I don't know Monkeys but after watching these videos I can't really get to excited.  First off, the ex wife (of a whole 4 months) seems as though she would love to get some sort of revenge on Kronk - if what happened to her indeed happened then why didn't she run the other direction immediately?  No instead this happened several times - once would be enough for me unless of course she is the one with the quirky strange ways and perhaps enjoyed it? I would love to know who had enough of who.....  I would love to know his side.......AND if she was fearing for her life then why didn't she call the police and have a restraining order put on him.  Sorry but I am not biting, I think she is embellishing some of what she says because maybe she really did have a thing for him, it will be very interesting to see cross exam by the State esp with this little tid bit of forgery etc.......Yeah she's credible.  IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 11:52:01 AM
Hi Monkeys. I usually just check in these days and lurk. But WTF??????? I cannot even believe this. Kronk killed Caylee. Well, make up your mind. Was it Zanny? Jesse? Kronk?

How much is Baez paying this lady?  ::MonkeyMad::

If this creates enough reasonable doubt to get that bitch off ... I cannot even go there.

Me either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am betting on the State.   ::MonkeyCool:: I think they have what they need.

I pray that is true.

I wish some people like Kronk's ex would zip it and stop inserting themselves into this case. Drives me crazy and I'm already halfway there!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: monkalicious on November 20, 2009, 11:54:44 AM
I put the link in for Bill Sheaffer's new blog in my last post, but forgot to put the title. (oops)
Why is state's attorneys office not charging the Anthonys with perjury?
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 11:56:06 AM
Hi Monkeys. I usually just check in these days and lurk. But WTF??????? I cannot even believe this. Kronk killed Caylee. Well, make up your mind. Was it Zanny? Jesse? Kronk?

How much is Baez paying this lady?  ::MonkeyMad::

If this creates enough reasonable doubt to get that bitch off ... I cannot even go there.
Well it doesn't change my mind. Does it make me think a little differently, sure, but nothing else has changed. The evidence is still the evidence, with hopefully more to come. Just because Baez said it, doesn't make it so. Just cause the ex's said it, doesn't make it so. Just cause the Bozo's and ex's said it, doesn't make KC suddenly innocent.  :smt102 :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 11:58:02 AM
This April Applegate, where is she being videotaped?  (Could it be jail?)  She's got a tattoo on her neck, and there is a lot of noise.   Why couldn't they pick a quieter location?  She didn't say anything too damning, in my humble opinion.  Just a lot of innuendo for the most part.  Also, I thought Baez was leading her. 
Here's a weird thing, though.  I looked up the Florida Dept. of Corrections database and April Hensley is an alias for Dianna Louise Paul and Dianna Louise Hensley.  (The offense is for child neglect.)  However, this person is 33, not 23.  The picture looked kind of like her, though.  Where does she live now?  I'm a little skeptical, okay, a lot skeptical. ::MonkeyConfused::

I am with you Monkalicious - big time skeptical.........I think BIa$$ is selectively taking pieces of what they have to say (obviously)....I sure would love to read the medical report that says her mom would have lived if someone would have gotten her to the hospital sooner......seems rather odd to me that if Kronk neglected to take her why no one else in her immediate circle didn't - more embellishment if you ask me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 11:59:02 AM
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Why Is State Attorney’s Office Not Charging Anthonys With Perjury?
BeesKnees, Cathy,Olivia, Frg, Grownupmom, Jan and many more of you have asked this question in varying forms. Why haven’t George and Cindy Anthony been charged and prosecuted for perjury? Quite simply in order for a person to be charged with perjury, he must make a material contradiction of the facts to which he is testifying, under oath.  In other words, lie from one sworn statement to another.  In the case of George and Cindy Anthony, their statements to the FBI, other law enforcement authorities and of course the media, have not been under oath, or sworn to.  Therefore, even if they have contradicted themselves in their series of statements or outright lied, the Florida statutory requirements have not been met to bring a charge of perjury.  So what about bringing a charge of obstruction of justice for any possible evidence cover up or untruthfulness to law enforcement investigators?  Again, the answer is pretty simple: the people’s prosecution team of Ashton, Burdick and George are highly experienced and have a singleness of purpose.  That is: prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony killed her child.  As a criminal trial lawyer, one of the arrows in my quiver is distraction, another is misdirection.  That is: create a diversion of the jury’s attention away from the main issue (did Casey murder her little girl?) to anything that might allow me as the defense attorney to argue that the case lacks proof beyond a reasonable doubt.  Such ploys have actually worked on more than a few occasions.  Unfortunately for the defense in the Casey case, this seasoned prosecution team will keep their eyes on the prize: ultimate justice for little girl Caylee.
We still have a long and winding way to go until trial commences in this case. And, as you saw late yesterday (with the defense motion accusing witness/meter reader Kronk) there seems to be no end to the surprises arising  from either side.  So, again, while I do not foresee perjury or obstruction charges against either of the Anthonys any time soon, anything could  happen, before or even after, Casey’s murder trial.

WJS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 12:01:46 PM
Let's hope the jury is as smart as the monkeys.  ::MonkeyGavel::

I'd like to whack a few people on the head with that gavel, and in this order: Casey, Cindy, George, Baez, Lee, Joy ... and the list goes on for miles.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Oh, wait for it ... I think I feel an Enquirer story coming on soon starring Kronk's ex ... wonder how much $$$$ she plans to make ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 12:02:20 PM
Ok, let's play along ... How did Kronk get Caylee? I thought Zanny took her? How did evidence of decomp -- or to put it more bluntly -- how did Caylee's dead body end up in Casey's car while SHE WAS DRIVING IT all around town partying and stealing and shopping, etc.? Did Kronk plant the body there and Casey didn't realize she was driving around with "a dead body in the damn car"? Did Kronk also then remove the body and clean the trunk? Oh, and did Kronk make Casey not report her daughter missing for 31 days? Really? Really?   

GMAFB. This makes me want to scream.

Long time no see - I have missed your posts.  I was wondering the same thing and if I play along....let's see.......Zenaida kidnapped Caylee from KC and then Kronk kidnapped her away from Zenaida....you know and then the rest is history Kronk carjacked the car from KC and left her stranded at the tattoo parlor.  Geeeesh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: N2WISHN on November 20, 2009, 12:02:29 PM
This really bothers me. They go on national TV to discredit the man that located Caylee’s remains and then cry about all the media coverage. I guess the defense gets to have it both ways. Now I remember why I can hardly follow this case. I’m sick of watching our legal system being twisted and overused on frivolous allegations and motions. All the while the taxpayers of Orlando get to pay for it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 12:02:56 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21668948/detail.html
Motion: Kronk Could Have Killed Caylee Anthony

Posted: 7:05 pm EST November 19, 2009Updated: 11:54 am EST November 20, 2009

Comment On This Story ››
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lawyers for Casey Anthony filed a motion (read motion) late Thursday that named the man who found Caylee Anthony's remains as a possible suspect in her death.

Shortly after former meter reader Roy Kronk answered questions in a deposition on Thursday, Casey's defense filed a motion pointing the finger at Kronk.

Two of Casey Anthony’s lawyers appeared on national TV Friday morning to point the finger at a new suspect; the former Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Anthony’s body, Roy Kronk.
They said there is as much circumstantial evidence implicating Roy Kronk as there is against their client.

"I haven't done anything wrong and I've maintained that the whole time," said Kronk after Thursday's deposition.

Casey's defense team claims they have a lot of reason to believe Kronk was involved. Their thoughts are based on interviews they did with Roy Kronk's ex-wives and girlfriends.

“I need you like now. I just found a human skull," Kronk said in the 911 call.

Nearly everyone, including the State Attorney's Office praised Roy Kronk when he found Caylee Anthony's remains in a wooded area, including her skull on December 11.

But the former Orange County meter reader is being picked apart by Casey Anthony's legal team, headed by attorney Jose Baez.

“They're doing what they’re expected to do. That is them trying to defend their client," Kronk’s attorney David Evans said.

Investigators cleared Kronk and said they don't believe he has anything to do with Caylee’s horrific death. But in a motion filed Thursday, Casey's attorneys claim Kronk is “equally as likely to be responsible for the death of the child."
"It is the nature of criminal defense to attempt to find someone to blame for a crime other than the person charged. Mr. Kronk has understood from the beginning that the defense might attempt to cast suspicions in his direction--because that's what defense attorneys do. In their zeal to defend Casey Anthony, defense counsel has filed papers with the Court that are filled with allegations that have no basis in fact and falsely accuse Mr. Kronk of various types of bad behavior," Kronk's attorney, David Evans, said in a press released Thursday evening. "As for Mr. Kronk, he vehemently denies the allegations against him and is confident that he will be vindicated. In the meantime, as he stated early on in this case, no good deed goes unpunished."

Also, in a surprise move, they showed off the interviews they did with Kronk's ex-wives.

Jill Kerley said he beat her in 1992 and tied her up with duct tape. That's crucial because duct tape was used to cover little Caylee's mouth when she was murdered.

"He told me if I moved he would beat me," Kerley stated. "Roy talks so many untruths. When he does talk the truth, you just can't believe it."

WFTV legal expert Bill Scheaffer says this is a low blow by Baez, who appears lost in his own case.

"The defense has continued to have a suspect de jour other than Casey Anthony," said Scheaffer. "This is beyond a pathetic attempt. This is a despicable act on the part of the defense in this case."
In other words, Baez and Anthony are walking a fine line with the accusations.

So far, the defense has not spoken publicly about the bizarre turn of events.

There are allegations of Kronk's possible inappropriate behavior with young girls, stemming from an interview with the 23-year-old daughter of one of Kronk's ex-girlfriends who had married at the age of 15.

“Police should have investigated him as a suspect there were so many red flags, it was a sea of red,” Casey’s attorney Andrea Lyon said.

Prosecutors have not talked publicly about the motions, but they have never called Roy Kronk a suspect in the case and have maintained that Casey Anthony is responsible for her daughter's death.
 Motion, Kronk As Suspect http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21674732/detail.html
Memo Supporting Motion  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21674736/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
Hey Bozo, here's mud in your eye...

"For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board....would not let him practice law." They wrote that his overall behavior showed, "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system..."

The Florida Bar is very stringent on who they allow to practice law in our state. When you go to law school they break it down for you what the Florida Bar will be looking into and investigating on you if you choose to practice law in Florida. You must be honest with every answer and detail that you give the Florida Bar. Every infraction, speeding ticket, criminal activity, debt, mental illness, etc. must be fully explained. Some of the factors quoted in this article for their denial of J.A.B. are:

1. Unpaid child support
2. Personal bankruptcy
3. Default on a student loan
4. Omissions regarding writing of a bad check
5. Entering a pre-trial program to avoid conviction



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 12:05:19 PM
Hi Monkeys. I usually just check in these days and lurk. But WTF??????? I cannot even believe this. Kronk killed Caylee. Well, make up your mind. Was it Zanny? Jesse? Kronk?

How much is Baez paying this lady?  ::MonkeyMad::

If this creates enough reasonable doubt to get that bitch off ... I cannot even go there.

Me either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am betting on the State.   ::MonkeyCool:: I think they have what they need.

I pray that is true.

I wish some people like Kronk's ex would zip it and stop inserting themselves into this case. Drives me crazy and I'm already halfway there!  ::MonkeyRoll::

You know everyone that gets into this case gets chit dumped on them.Maybe she'll get a big bucket.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
Hope this is new info...
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html
Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 12:06:23 PM
Ok, let's play along ... How did Kronk get Caylee? I thought Zanny took her? How did evidence of decomp -- or to put it more bluntly -- how did Caylee's dead body end up in Casey's car while SHE WAS DRIVING IT all around town partying and stealing and shopping, etc.? Did Kronk plant the body there and Casey didn't realize she was driving around with "a dead body in the damn car"? Did Kronk also then remove the body and clean the trunk? Oh, and did Kronk make Casey not report her daughter missing for 31 days? Really? Really?   

GMAFB. This makes me want to scream.

Long time no see - I have missed your posts.  I was wondering the same thing and if I play along....let's see.......Zenaida kidnapped Caylee from KC and then Kronk kidnapped her away from Zenaida....you know and then the rest is history Kronk carjacked the car from KC and left her stranded at the tattoo parlor.  Geeeesh

Hell, next thing you know we are going to see Kronk's face photoshopped into those Fusion pictures of Casey in the blue dress and boots. He was there all along dancing the night away, not a care in the world.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: seemeatthebeach on November 20, 2009, 12:07:17 PM
Really curious on the timing of this filing by the defense - Kronk as a suspect.  Kronk is due back today for furhter depositions.  If I were Kronk, now knowing that these clowns are trying to pin this on him and create a reasonable doubt, I would go with the story, "My girlfriend, who is a guard at the jail where Casey is locked up, over heard her tell her attoreny where the body was."

CC, As a matter of fact LP told me in a phone conversation months ago, Kronk in fact got the info of where Caylee's remains were from his girlfriend who is a guard at the jail. She over heard a conversation of Casey and another person. (I can't remember if LP said it was with Bozo, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, and I just can't remember)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
Hey Bozo, here's mud in your eye...

"For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board....would not let him practice law." They wrote that his overall behavior showed, "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system..."

The Florida Bar is very stringent on who they allow to practice law in our state. When you go to law school they break it down for you what the Florida Bar will be looking into and investigating on you if you choose to practice law in Florida. You must be honest with every answer and detail that you give the Florida Bar. Every infraction, speeding ticket, criminal activity, debt, mental illness, etc. must be fully explained. Some of the factors quoted in this article for their denial of J.A.B. are:

1. Unpaid child support
2. Personal bankruptcy
3. Default on a student loan
4. Omissions regarding writing of a bad check
5. Entering a pre-trial program to avoid conviction



6. Being dumber than a petrified turd.

That made me feel better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 12:10:03 PM
Since things are freezing up on me today, I see Trimm you posted three links to women from Kronk's past, is there anywhere to read what they said? I couldn't get the one video to work  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 12:10:46 PM
Hey Bozo, here's mud in your eye...

"For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board....would not let him practice law." They wrote that his overall behavior showed, "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system..."

The Florida Bar is very stringent on who they allow to practice law in our state. When you go to law school they break it down for you what the Florida Bar will be looking into and investigating on you if you choose to practice law in Florida. You must be honest with every answer and detail that you give the Florida Bar. Every infraction, speeding ticket, criminal activity, debt, mental illness, etc. must be fully explained. Some of the factors quoted in this article for their denial of J.A.B. are:

1. Unpaid child support
2. Personal bankruptcy
3. Default on a student loan
4. Omissions regarding writing of a bad check
5. Entering a pre-trial program to avoid conviction



Birds of a feather.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 12:11:42 PM
Really curious on the timing of this filing by the defense - Kronk as a suspect.  Kronk is due back today for furhter depositions.  If I were Kronk, now knowing that these clowns are trying to pin this on him and create a reasonable doubt, I would go with the story, "My girlfriend, who is a guard at the jail where Casey is locked up, over heard her tell her attoreny where the body was."

CC, As a matter of fact LP told me in a phone conversation months ago, Kronk in fact got the info of where Caylee's remains were from his girlfriend who is a guard at the jail. She over heard a conversation of Casey and another person. (I can't remember if LP said it was with Bozo, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, and I just can't remember)
Thanks, and I remember him saying about the daisy chain. And I did believe him when he said that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 12:21:02 PM
Go here and put in Kronk Jill......she's not perfect either.    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis

Yeah she sure isn't!! - I don't know Monkeys but after watching these videos I can't really get to excited.  First off, the ex wife (of a whole 4 months) seems as though she would love to get some sort of revenge on Kronk - if what happened to her indeed happened then why didn't she run the other direction immediately?  No instead this happened several times - once would be enough for me unless of course she is the one with the quirky strange ways and perhaps enjoyed it? I would love to know who had enough of who.....  I would love to know his side.......AND if she was fearing for her life then why didn't she call the police and have a restraining order put on him.  Sorry but I am not biting, I think she is embellishing some of what she says because maybe she really did have a thing for him, it will be very interesting to see cross exam by the State esp with this little tid bit of forgery etc.......Yeah she's credible.  IDK

For some reason prosecutors did not follow through with these charges against Jill.  And yes, all the statements made by these characters against Kronk mean nothing in the long run. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 12:26:13 PM
:gaah: :gaah:

(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/2b3c9d2d.gif)  I completely agree! (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/dislikesmiley.gif)

OMG!  :smt085


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
http://barbarasblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/05/sister-helen-prejean-and-dennis-fritz.html

May 31, 2008

On Thursday, May 22, noted authors’ Dennis Fritz and Sister Helen Prejean, teamed up together in Chicago, Illinois, to speak at the Saint Vincent Catholic Church at DePaul University—against the arbitrary use of the death penalty.
This long-awaited event represented a powerful combination of these two people (along with other key, death penalty abolitionists), whose sole objective(s) are to bring about the much-needed, greater awareness against the use of the death penalty.

Sister Helen Prejean is the author of Dead Man Walking, which was turned into a major motion picture in the middle 90’s. Her later released book, The Death of Innocents, is a powerful and poignant masterpiece, that exposes the in-depth atrocities of the death penalty.
Sister Helen is a true-to-heart abolitionist, and is speaking all over the county about her unyielding convictions against the unfair use of the death penalty. Sister Helen so eloquently combines her powerful presence with a witty sense of humor and directness that radiates her southern charm and intelligence. Her determination, dedication, and fortitude are deeply embedded in her plight to abolish the death penalty.

Dennis Fritz, who is the author of Journey Toward Justice—the co-companion book to John Grisham’s The Innocent Man— has been touring the country and speaking out about wrongful convictions, and the unfair administration of the death penalty. A major motion picture under the direction of George Clooney, is now underway about Dennis and Ronnie Williamson’ case. Both men were falsely convicted of 1st Degree Capital Murder, and spent 12 years behind bars before DNA testing finally freed them.

To meet Dennis, you would never think that he had suffered through a 12 year, never-ending nightmare, as such. His strength, fortitude, and courage are Dennis’ blessings to everyone around him. Today, his zest for life and liberty is greater than it has ever been. Dennis lives each and everyday of his life to the fullest, with a positive attitude and caring for other people—that is very rare in today’s society. Now, he finally gets to meet Sister Helen Prejean!
After Sister Helen and Dennis were picked up at the O’Hare International Airport by Elliot Slosar and Jennifer Bishop ( bulldog abolitionist’s for the State of Illinois ), they immediately had lunch at Giordano’s Pizza.
The excitement could be felt throughout the restaurant, as each of the dynamos for justice conversed and celebrated their long-awaited meeting. After lunch, the group traveled to the historic site of the St. Vincent DePaul Catholic Church, where Sister Helen and Dennis would speak that evening to an overwhelming crowd of supporters.

While Sister Helen was speaking to a group of DePaul University students, Dennis got a wonderful tour of Chicago by the one-and-only, Jennifer Bishop. Afterwards, everyone met for dinner at a local nearby restaurant.

Dennis got to meet other powerful abolitionists such as Andrea Lyon and her son, Will, Jennifer’s sister, Jeanne, Private Detective, Mort Smith, Dominick Fortunato, and Bill Bishop—Jennifer’s husband.
(snipped)

I wonder why I am having a strong dislike for Chicago, Il.............

Thank you, CECE.  ::MonkeyKiss::

hee, hee, hee

Oh! HI CC! Maybe you could move.  ::ElfMonkey::

Good afternoon, Everybody.  ::MonkeyCool::

All I can say about this whole situation is (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/073.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
Since things are freezing up on me today, I see Trimm you posted three links to women from Kronk's past, is there anywhere to read what they said? I couldn't get the one video to work  ::MonkeyConfused::

NoRose read here - not alot but it pretty much summarizes what the videos were about.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21668948/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 20, 2009, 12:33:34 PM
Kron's ex  Jill Kerley
(http://www.clickorlando.com/2009/1120/21673777_320X180.jpg)

How much money are these people being paid to say this....and WHO is paying them!!> >???  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 12:36:28 PM
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/kronk-3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
Hey Bozo, here's mud in your eye...

"For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board....would not let him practice law." They wrote that his overall behavior showed, "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system..."

The Florida Bar is very stringent on who they allow to practice law in our state. When you go to law school they break it down for you what the Florida Bar will be looking into and investigating on you if you choose to practice law in Florida. You must be honest with every answer and detail that you give the Florida Bar. Every infraction, speeding ticket, criminal activity, debt, mental illness, etc. must be fully explained. Some of the factors quoted in this article for their denial of J.A.B. are:

1. Unpaid child support
2. Personal bankruptcy
3. Default on a student loan
4. Omissions regarding writing of a bad check
5. Entering a pre-trial program to avoid conviction



Interesting.

So...unpaid child support huh? An ex wife in his life? Reckon she'd do an interview giving some nasty dirty on him, same as Kronk's?

Sigh. Just the thought cheers me up some.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
Kron's ex  Jill Kerley
(http://www.clickorlando.com/2009/1120/21673777_320X180.jpg)

How much money are these people being paid to say this....and WHO is paying them!!> >???  ::MonkeyMad::

I was wondering the same thing.  I mean seriously I have an ex husband whom I loathe - he wasn't a good person and was capable of doing some pretty nasty things but would I ever ever say he was capable of murdering a little girl? No way and trust me I don't spare his image very often.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Missiontoconvict on November 20, 2009, 12:43:03 PM
Go here and put in Kronk Jill......she's not perfect either.    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis

Yeah she sure isn't!! - I don't know Monkeys but after watching these videos I can't really get to excited.  First off, the ex wife (of a whole 4 months) seems as though she would love to get some sort of revenge on Kronk - if what happened to her indeed happened then why didn't she run the other direction immediately?  No instead this happened several times - once would be enough for me unless of course she is the one with the quirky strange ways and perhaps enjoyed it? I would love to know who had enough of who.....  I would love to know his side.......AND if she was fearing for her life then why didn't she call the police and have a restraining order put on him.  Sorry but I am not biting, I think she is embellishing some of what she says because maybe she really did have a thing for him, it will be very interesting to see cross exam by the State esp with this little tid bit of forgery etc.......Yeah she's credible.  IDK

For some reason prosecutors did not follow through with these charges against Jill.  And yes, all the statements made by these characters against Kronk mean nothing in the long run. IMO

That is true Tupelo - I only hope it means the SA doesn't need to follow thru because they have the smoking gun.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 20, 2009, 12:48:37 PM
I just have to say "never say never"....  Because I honestly thought nothing about this case could surprise me any more...

WRONG!!!       ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
Since things are freezing up on me today, I see Trimm you posted three links to women from Kronk's past, is there anywhere to read what they said? I couldn't get the one video to work  ::MonkeyConfused::

NoRose read here - not alot but it pretty much summarizes what the videos were about.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21668948/detail.html
Thank-you I appreciate that  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 12:48:47 PM
CC...I love the pics you share.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 12:49:29 PM
SNAKES!!!! SNAKES!!!!! ALL OF THEM ARE SNAKES!!!!!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
I just have to say "never say never"....  Because I honestly thought nothing about this case could surprise me any more...

WRONG!!!       ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm with you, I really didn't think anything would surprise me anymore about this case either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 12:53:00 PM


CC, As a matter of fact LP told me in a phone conversation months ago, Kronk in fact got the info of where Caylee's remains were from his girlfriend who is a guard at the jail. She over heard a conversation of Casey and another person. (I can't remember if LP said it was with Bozo, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, and I just can't remember)

Thank You Seeme! I was talking with a friend this morning and I brought up the fact that LP had stated on NG, the night before Caylee was found, for us not to be surprised if LE didn't come up with the body soon (not his exact wording but from my memory).  That always bothered me, but now I understand, he obviously was in close contact with Kronk and must have known that Roy would be going back to the woods very soon, if not the next day.
I wonder if the State will use this info to dismiss this latest absurd motion?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 12:55:43 PM


CC, As a matter of fact LP told me in a phone conversation months ago, Kronk in fact got the info of where Caylee's remains were from his girlfriend who is a guard at the jail. She over heard a conversation of Casey and another person. (I can't remember if LP said it was with Bozo, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, and I just can't remember)

Thank You Seeme! I was talking with a friend this morning and I brought up the fact that LP had stated on NG, the night before Caylee was found, for us not to be surprised if LE didn't come up with the body soon (not his exact wording but from my memory).  That always bothered me, but now I understand, he obviously was in close contact with Kronk and must have known that Roy would be going back to the woods very soon, if not the next day.
I wonder if the State will use this info to dismiss this latest absurd motion?

I recall something like that too. Is there any way Lenny would talk about this... and if he has anything to enlighten everyone, would he? Can someone ask him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
CC...I love the pics you share.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think you're the only one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Jesse on November 20, 2009, 01:05:35 PM
Hmmmm well then where does Dom Casey fit in, when Cindy or Bozo was telling him where to find the body...guess Cindy and Bozo should also be suspects. Apparently they knew before anyone where the body was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 20, 2009, 01:05:59 PM
I just have to say "never say never"....  Because I honestly thought nothing about this case could surprise me any more...

WRONG!!!       ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm with you, I really didn't think anything would surprise me anymore about this case either.

Mr. Kronk may not be an angel, but I am appalled at the train wreck effect this case is having on the lives of so many.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
CC...I love the pics you share.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think you're the only one.

Awww. Surely not.

:smt058



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 20, 2009, 01:08:56 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=739

A Serious Look at the Defense's Motion Concerning Kronk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 01:10:06 PM
Hmmmm well then where does Dom Casey fit in, when Cindy or Bozo was telling him where to find the body...guess Cindy and Bozo should also be suspects. Apparently they knew before anyone where the body was.

Excellent point.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 01:10:31 PM
Hmmmm well then where does Dom Casey fit in, when Cindy or Bozo was telling him where to find the body...guess Cindy and Bozo should also be suspects. Apparently they knew before anyone where the body was.

Great point, Jesse!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: tupelohoney on November 20, 2009, 01:12:40 PM
CC...I love the pics you share.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think you're the only one.

Awww. Surely not.

:smt058


I always enjoy your creative photos! Don't ever stop. And I really appreciate your post on how imperfect Baez has been in his life, I had forgotten about that and that info just reconfirms for me that he is lower than low. (I'm trying to be nice with that statement, although he doesn't deserve anything nice said about him, MOO)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 01:16:11 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=739

A Serious Look at the Defense's Motion Concerning Kronk
That was very interesting, thanks for posting that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Puzzler on November 20, 2009, 01:26:03 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=739

A Serious Look at the Defense's Motion Concerning Kronk
That was very interesting, thanks for posting that.

You're welcome...I found it interesting, too.  How simple it is to question everything Baez does...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Blumonkey on November 20, 2009, 01:26:42 PM
Hey Bozo, here's mud in your eye...

"For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board....would not let him practice law." They wrote that his overall behavior showed, "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system..."

The Florida Bar is very stringent on who they allow to practice law in our state. When you go to law school they break it down for you what the Florida Bar will be looking into and investigating on you if you choose to practice law in Florida. You must be honest with every answer and detail that you give the Florida Bar. Every infraction, speeding ticket, criminal activity, debt, mental illness, etc. must be fully explained. Some of the factors quoted in this article for their denial of J.A.B. are:

1. Unpaid child support
2. Personal bankruptcy
3. Default on a student loan
4. Omissions regarding writing of a bad check
5. Entering a pre-trial program to avoid conviction



Interesting.

So...unpaid child support huh? An ex wife in his life? Reckon she'd do an interview giving some nasty dirty on him, same as Kronk's?

Sigh. Just the thought cheers me up some.

Wow! It is pretty clear that Baez has had his share of financial problems. Maybe someone could look into his past until they find an angry woman to say she would not be shocked if Baez himself was the culprit. He did appear quickly at the jail to sign up to be Casey's lawyer. Motive, you ask? A high profile case gives instant name recognition. "The first high profile Hispanic Lawyer" don't you know. Money to be made from future books, endorsements, other high profile cases. Running with the big dogs such as Geraldo Rivera, Andrea Lyons,etc. Appearance on morning shows, trips to New York, crab puffs at the Ritz.Anger that Roy Kronk's discovery changed the trajectory of the case and created a threat to bring the gravy train to a screeching halt. A case could be made that there is as much or more circumstantial evidence as they have on poor Kronk who was only trying to do the right thing . I now see how this is done and it makes me sick! :smt078


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: NickandNora on November 20, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=739

A Serious Look at the Defense's Motion Concerning Kronk

 :smt038

AWESOME!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Sassycat on November 20, 2009, 01:32:58 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::

Unbelievable, isn't it?    ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 01:36:13 PM
Hey Fanny, sorry for the delay....I just got back home.  Go to this link    https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/mainmenux.jsp  Click on guest login. Once there, type in "Maggard, Joy". That should take you to her records. I believe there are 3 pages to access.  I think Joy was 19 when her troubles with the law began....credit card theft and use of stolen card, petit theft retail, grand theft auto, domestic violence, trespassing, trespassing with petit theft, burglary, battery, larceny, criminal mischief. I believe she spent a couple or more years in jail and was on probation for a lot of time as well.
Wow, thank-you, and the defense wants to use her as a witness  ::MonkeyRoll::

Unbelievable, isn't it?    ::MonkeyRoll::
It is all beyond unbelievable, you hate to even think what's next?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 01:47:12 PM
SNAKES!!!! SNAKES!!!!! ALL OF THEM ARE SNAKES!!!!!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)
Yeah,what Fanny said.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 01:49:10 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/trimmcar.gif)
I am headed for a new cage.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 01:51:46 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d20-Pam-Bondi-in-Casey-Anthony-The-Untold-story-of-Caylee-Anthony-watch-full-video
Pam Bondi in Casey Anthony: The Untold story of Caylee Anthony (watch full video)
November 20, 12:14 PMTampa Crime ExaminerCharisse Van Horn
Who is Pam Bondi and why is she so close to the Casey Anthony case?


If you’ve followed the Casey Anthony case for any length of time, you’re sure to have seen Pam Bondi. She’s made plenty of guest appearances on the Nancy Grace show, Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell, and is also a featured guest on shows such as Scarborough Country with Joe Scarborough. You’ll find her on networks from CNN to MSNBC and Fox News. You’ll also find Pam Bondi in Tampa where she serves as an Assistant State Attorney in Hillsborough County. Pam Bondi has become one of the leading authorities on the Casey Anthony case.


Pam Bondi was interviewed in the CBS 48 Hours Mystery: The Story of Caylee Anthony. You can watch the full video in the player below. In fact, she was the first person interviewed in the show and gave the opening statements. The Caylee Anthony murder has rocked the nation and it has permeated through the Tampa Bay area, from its local citizens who wonder if they would become jurors should the trial be moved here to Pam Bondi who has become one of the foremost experts on the case.
The case has taken many twists and turns as the defense has pulled a number of different theories out of their hat, and the trial hasn’t even begun. Sure, it does. And as well as what we`ve said, the neck breaking, the chloroform. She`s out partying, you know. And the underlying felony, of course, is going to be aggravated child abuse for felony murder.


Pam Bondi has lent her expertise as a Florida prosecutor by participating in many panel discussions on both Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell and the Nancy Grace Show. In one session, she was asked about whether Casey Anthony had accidentally killed Caylee while out partying, or if she had premeditated the murder. They discussed whether or not the duct tape over Caylee Anthony’s mouth indicated premeditated murder.


Pam Bondi replied, “Sure, it does. And as well as what we`ve said, the neck breaking, the chloroform. She`s out partying, you know. And the underlying felony, of course, is going to be aggravated child abuse for felony murder. In Florida you can prove it two ways. It`s a great murder statute. They don`t have to rely on one. They can go premeditated and/or they can go felony murder
When asked about Casey Anthony in the 48 hours special: The Untold Story of Caylee Anthony, Pam Bondi stated, “Casey Anthony, she’s a habitual liar, a troubled human being. Clearly, she needed help.”

In Florida you can prove it two ways. It`s a great murder statute. They don`t have to rely on one. They can go premeditated and/or they can go felony murder. Casey Anthony’s trial isn’t scheduled until the summer of 2010.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 01:52:09 PM
SNAKES!!!! SNAKES!!!!! ALL OF THEM ARE SNAKES!!!!!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif) (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/slithering_snake.gif)
Cool snake Fanny, I snagged it from you!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
November 20, 2009 1:17 PM
CRIMESIDER
Casey Anthony Defense: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Killed Caylee Anthony
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/20/crimesider/entry5723509.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-tv-stations-study-defense-teams-media-blitz.html
Casey Anthony: TV stations study defense team's media blitz -- WFTV legal analyst decries 'despicable act' by defense
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The Casey Anthony defense team hit the nation's airwaves this morning, and local stations studied those moves at noon.

"Part-legal maneuver, part PR offensive," WKMG-Channel 6 anchor Erick Weber described the media blitz.

The defense team filed a motion late Thursday pointing to meter reader Roy Kronk as a possible suspect in toddler Caylee Anthony's murder. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in her child's death. Kronk found the child's remains in December.

"The red flags were just unbelievable in this case," defense attorney Andrea Lyon told WKMG from New York. "Instead of investigating them, they [the investigators] basically kind of knocked out anybody who contradicted what Mr. Kronk had to say."

WKMG's Tony Pipitone noted that a jury wouldn't hear the defense team's motion unless the judge allows it into to evidence. Pipitone also said the state hasn't responded to the defense team's move.

On WFTV-Channel 9, Daralene Jones said Kronk "is being picked apart by Casey Anthony's legal team." WFTV replayed part of Lyon's interview with NBC's "Today."

In a report last night, WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer described the motion as "beyond a pathetic attempt -- this is a despicable act on the part of the defense in this case." Sheaffer said nothing connects Kronk to the Anthony family before he found the child's remains.

WESH-Channel 2 plays snippets of Lyon and fellow attorney Jose Baez on "Today." WESH also interviewed David Evans, Kronk's attorney, who said the defense had built its motion on comments by Kronk's estranged family.

"It was calculated to deflect attention away from Miss Anthony and over to Mr. Kronk," Evans said.

In another WESH report, Evans said, "They've dumped a big pot of mud over his head and said, 'Look at this guy.' " Evans said his client had become a witness and a victim.

Evans told WKMG, "Roy is the guy that has been selected, apparently, by the defense to be the guyo be dumped on, and they dumped on him big time."

In a report last night, WESH anchor Martha Sugalski said the station had talked to Baez. "He claims he's not saying Kronk is the killer but does call Kronk's testimony questionable and says his background should be investigated," Sugalski said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:06:52 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/n508228238_106098_4391-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 20, 2009, 02:07:22 PM
November 20, 2009 1:17 PM
CRIMESIDER
Casey Anthony Defense: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Killed Caylee Anthony
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/20/crimesider/entry5723509.shtml
Thanks Trimm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:09:11 PM
November 20, 2009 1:17 PM
CRIMESIDER
Casey Anthony Defense: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Killed Caylee Anthony
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/20/crimesider/entry5723509.shtml
Thanks Trimm

Hey NoRose.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:10:44 PM
CC...I love the pics you share.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think you're the only one.

Awww. Surely not.

:smt058


I always enjoy your creative photos! Don't ever stop. And I really appreciate your post on how imperfect Baez has been in his life, I had forgotten about that and that info just reconfirms for me that he is lower than low. (I'm trying to be nice with that statement, although he doesn't deserve anything nice said about him, MOO)

I bet he gets lower.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:12:10 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:13:33 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:14:02 PM
Maybe we'll wake up in the new cage and realize this was all just a baaaad dream?  ::MonkeyWaa::

I know, no such luck!  ::MonkeyMad::

Bring it on Bozo's  ::MonkeyGavel::


BTW, when I say Bozo's with a plural, I'm referring to all of them (KC, A's, Lawyers), collectively they are Bozo's! Not to be confused with the singular Bozo so many affectionatley call JB!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
Casey Anthony: TV stations study defense team's media blitz -- WFTV legal analyst decries 'despicable act' by defense

The Casey Anthony defense team hit the nation's airwaves this morning, and local stations studied those moves at noon.

"Part-legal maneuver, part PR offensive," WKMG-Channel 6 anchor Erick Weber described the media blitz.

The defense team filed a motion late Thursday pointing to meter reader Roy Kronk as a possible suspect in toddler Caylee Anthony's murder. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in her child's death. Kronk found the child's remains in December.

"The red flags were just unbelievable in this case," defense attorney Andrea Lyon told WKMG from New York. "Instead of investigating them, they [the investigators] basically kind of knocked out anybody who contradicted what Mr. Kronk had to say."

WKMG's Tony Pipitone noted that a jury wouldn't hear the defense team's motion unless the judge allows it into to evidence. Pipitone also said the state hasn't responded to the defense team's move.


On WFTV-Channel 9, Daralene Jones said Kronk "is being picked apart by Casey Anthony's legal team." WFTV replayed part of Lyon's interview with NBC's "Today."

In a report last night, WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer described the motion as "beyond a pathetic attempt -- this is a despicable act on the part of the defense in this case." Sheaffer said nothing connects Kronk to the Anthony family before he found the child's remains.

WESH-Channel 2 plays snippets of Lyon and fellow attorney Jose Baez on "Today." WESH also interviewed David Evans, Kronk's attorney, who said the defense had built its motion on comments by Kronk's estranged family.

"It was calculated to deflect attention away from Miss Anthony and over to Mr. Kronk," Evans said.

In another WESH report, Evans said, "They've dumped a big pot of mud over his head and said, 'Look at this guy.' " Evans said his client had become a witness and a victim.

Evans told WKMG, "Roy is the guy that has been selected, apparently, by the defense to be the guy to be dumped on, and they dumped on him big time."

In a report last night, WESH anchor Martha Sugalski said the station had talked to Baez. "He claims he's not saying Kronk is the killer but does call Kronk's testimony questionable and says his background should be investigated," Sugalski said.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-tv-stations-study-defense-teams-media-blitz.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 20, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
Is Kronk finishing his depo today? I have seen nothing on it, but I was sure, they said it would be continued today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Irish Monkey on November 20, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
Is Kronk finishing his depo today? I have seen nothing on it, but I was sure, they said it would be continued today?

I thought the same thing, but aren't all the lawyers spanning the globe on their media spin adventure?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:26:40 PM
Is Kronk finishing his depo today? I have seen nothing on it, but I was sure, they said it would be continued today?

I thought the same thing, but aren't all the lawyers spanning the globe on their media spin adventure?

I was wondering the same thing.  With Team Bobo being on the morning shows they must have planned for an afternoon depo so it would work with their flights.  What a shame if they were all stuck in a  plane on the tarmac for 5-12 hours like you read can happen.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: ddex on November 20, 2009, 02:29:42 PM
OK I found what I was looking for "scheduled for another day".   Makes sense, cuz he preplanned his appearence on the network am shows. Now he has the whole weekend to play in the big apple.  Wanna take bets he will appear on his buddy whoraldo this weekend?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:32:37 PM
OK I found what I was looking for "scheduled for another day".   Makes sense, cuz he preplanned his appearence on the network am shows. Now he has the whole weekend to play in the big apple.  Wanna take bets he will appear on his buddy whoraldo this weekend?
  (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/vomit.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/vomit.gif) (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/smileysonly/vomit.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:32:53 PM
OK I found what I was looking for "scheduled for another day".   Makes sense, cuz he preplanned his appearence on the network am shows. Now he has the whole weekend to play in the big apple.  Wanna take bets he will appear on his buddy whoraldo this weekend?

You nailed that one.  I bet it will be on the boat even.   Anyone know when it was rescheduled for?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
OK I found what I was looking for "scheduled for another day".   Makes sense, cuz he preplanned his appearence on the network am shows. Now he has the whole weekend to play in the big apple.  Wanna take bets he will appear on his buddy whoraldo this weekend?

I bet you're right.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:34:35 PM
Is Kronk finishing his depo today? I have seen nothing on it, but I was sure, they said it would be continued today?

I thought the same thing, but aren't all the lawyers spanning the globe on their media spin adventure?

I was wondering the same thing.  With Team Bobo being on the morning shows they must have planned for an afternoon depo so it would work with their flights.  What a shame if they were all stuck in a  plane on the tarmac for 5-12 hours like you read can happen.   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:36:03 PM
Justice For Caylee.    ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:36:43 PM
Casey Anthony Defense: Meter Reader Roy Kronk Killed Caylee Anthony

<snipped>

Video of LKB from this morning on this link as well. 

On Dec. 11, 2008, Kronk led police to Caylee Anthony's body. He was quickly ruled out as a possible suspect.

But Casey Anthony's defense team hit the network morning show circuit Friday, including CBS News’ "The Early Show" armed with videotaped interviews with Kronk's ex-wives. They portrayed Kronk as inappropriate with children, violent toward women, and capable of Caylee's murder

"When you learned that Roy Kronk had found the remains of Caylee Anthony, what went through your mind?" an attorney asked one of Kronk's ex-wives, Jill Keerley, during a taped interview provided to CBS News.

"That he had done it," Keerley replies.

"Done it, meaning...?" the lawyer asks.

"He probably was the one who murdered Caylee Anthony, or had something to do with it," Keerley responds.

"You had mentioned that he had a certain saying about duct tape," the lawyer says.

"Yeah," answers Keerley, quoting Kronk, "'It's a hundred-mile-an-hour duct tape, nothing can get through it.'"

Investigators found duct tape on Caylee's skull.

Casey Anthony's attorneys also gave CBS News video of April Hensley, who was 11 when Kronk lived with her mother. The girl says of Kronk, "Sometimes he would, you know, walk in while I was putting my clothes on."

Casey's defense team admits it has no physical evidence to support its theory, CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella points out. And Kronk's lawyers say this is just a ploy to deflect blame from the real suspect -- Casey Anthony.

But Andrea Lyon, one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys, turned the evidence argument on its head Friday when she told NBC's TODAY Show, "There is as much circumstantial evidence implicating Roy Kronk as there is implicating our client … He's the only one who's been with the body. He's the only one who magically discovers it."

Prosecutors say they'll seek the death penalty if Casey Anthony is convicted of first-degree murder.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/20/crimesider/entry5723509.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:37:04 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:38:01 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:38:04 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg) ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:38:48 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/cayleebaby.jpg)

Messed that one up. Here is another try.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:39:16 PM
OMG when LKB is questioned about Ex-wife having motives she replies that one Ex has cancer and this is like a death bed statement from her.  WTF!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:39:27 PM
Are we Modless?    ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:39:42 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/cute.jpg)
Aww, cute pic of Caylee!!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/CayleeAnthony2.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:40:12 PM
OMG when LKB is questioned about Ex-wife having motives she replies that one Ex has cancer and this is like a death bed statement from her.  WTF!

Oh for crying out loud.    ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:40:14 PM
I took a nap and now ... are we trapped in this cage?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:40:44 PM
We need out of here!!!!    ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:41:14 PM
OMG when LKB is questioned about Ex-wife having motives she replies that one Ex has cancer and this is like a death bed statement from her.  WTF!

Oh for crying out loud.    ::MonkeyRoll::

sounds like the script to a Lifetime movie of the week. puuhleez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
I took a nap and now ... are we trapped in this cage?  ::MonkeyShocked::

REmember that day we went way over 100?    ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:41:21 PM
Are we Modless?    ::MonkeyShocked::

I think so!  ::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
I took a nap and now ... are we trapped in this cage?  ::MonkeyShocked::

REmember that day we went way over 100?    ::MonkeySkate::

Yes I was scared that day.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:42:05 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/m_e5bcb0e521088638aeebb303a69b0644.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
I took a nap and now ... are we trapped in this cage?  ::MonkeyShocked::

REmember that day we went way over 100?    ::MonkeySkate::

Yes I was scared that day.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Now would be the perfect time for whorseface to announce, "Ineffective Counsel".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:43:22 PM
Maybe this will raise a stink and we can get on to a new cage ...

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Smells .... shoo wee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:43:30 PM
How is her jail fund these days?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 02:44:06 PM
HELP!!!!!! LET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:44:10 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:44:25 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/emu.jpg)

Get me outta here


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/33mo1le.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
Northern Rose --  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:45:25 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:45:40 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:46:00 PM
I'm giving the super side eye to the whole "Kronk did it" defense

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
This should do it....Jayne Weintraub........    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:46:33 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:47:14 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/grin.jpg)

Hey baby, how YOU doin?  ::MonkeyKiss::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:47:48 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 02:48:23 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:48:31 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
I left Klaas a message.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:49:05 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/leecheese.jpg)

For all the ladies ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: goodnmad on November 20, 2009, 02:49:54 PM
uh-oh  la te da

I'm innocent


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: CasuallyCool on November 20, 2009, 02:49:56 PM

Video Report: http://www.wftv.com/video/21677312/index.html

Basically, the motion wasn't necessary, Kronk could have been questioned during the trial.
Motion was done in a very public way. . . .
Lawyer has qualified immunity, if he defames a person during trial that person cannot sue.
Any statements made outside of trial do not fall under that immunity
Mr. Baez may face Bar inquiry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Northern Rose on November 20, 2009, 02:49:56 PM
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/mell0bucket/leecheese.jpg)

For all the ladies ...

Made me spit my coke  ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: QuietMonkey on November 20, 2009, 02:50:05 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 20, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
This should do it....Jayne Weintraub........    ::MonkeyDevil2::

What TRIMM SAID!!!! JAYNE WHINEYTRAUB!!!!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/wtfcat-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09
Post by: klaasend on November 20, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
OK, now that you have had a bit of fun...time to move to the new cage ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6422.0

::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBikeYorkie:: ::MonkeyBike::