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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1920 on: April 20, 2010, 01:41:45 AM »



Truth & Justice for Natalee!

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1921 on: April 20, 2010, 05:00:33 AM »

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April 19, 2010
Deadline For Women’s Life Conference Registration extended

To the Leader-Call Laurel Leader-Call

LAUREL — South Central Regional Medical Center’s 21st annual Women’s Life Conference is set for Saturday, April 24 at Jones County Junior College. The deadline for registration has been extended to Thursday, April 22 at 5 p.m. Registration packets can be picked up in the Marketing/Community Relations Office at South Central Place in Laurel.

Karen Vanderslice, Women’s Life Conference Coordinator, said, “I have been flooded with calls from women requesting registration packets. We have extended the deadline so that they will have time to complete them and return them to my office.” Seating is still available and we encourage those planning to attend to get their completed registration packets in the mail as soon as possible. “If you have a registration packet and have not mailed it back to us by Tuesday, April 20, please drop it by our office so you can be sure we receive it by the conference deadline.”

The cost for the full day of activities is only $25. Vanderslice said, “Financial contributions from our conference sponsors have allowed us to keep our conference registration fee at this low rate. The value of the event is so much more than the $25 registration fee, because it includes a full day of activities for women.”

It is a conference tradition each year to begin the day with laughter. “Women attending the conference this year will thoroughly enjoy the mind-boggling comedy and magic of award winning magical motivator Debbie Leifer. She has entertained crowds for years with her highly energized presentation,” Vanderslice said.

The Women’s Life Conference this year will also include a special presentation by Jean Smith Vaughn, Special Assistant Attorney General for the State of Mississippi and our very own Alex Hodge, Sheriff of Jones County.  They will discuss a variety of women’s safety related issues. “It is important that we learn how to keep ourselves safe,” Vanderslice said. “They will talk about scams, how to protect yourself from being a victim, and more.”

Women will also attend a health related seminar of their choice presented by area physicians and other health care professionals. Topics this year include medical weight loss, women and heart disease, advancements in eye care, diabetes and wound care, peri-menopause and issues relating to joint pain. One physician will also talk about advancements in medical technology.

“After the educational sessions, women will attend the conference health fair. There will be numerous booths providing free health screenings and a variety of health information,” Vanderslice said.

Women will gather between 12:15 p.m. and 1:15 p.m. in the dining facility at Jones County Junior College for a wonderful conference luncheon. “During the luncheon, Debbie Leifer, our opening speaker, will call out the winners of our door prizes.” This year conference planners have received more than 90 door prizes donated by area businesses. “We have two grand prize gifts this year,” Vanderslice said. “We will be giving away a diamond and sapphire dinner ring valued at $725 and a pink sapphire and gold necklace valued at $400.”  Numerous other items will be given away at the conference including gift baskets, gift certificates, decorative glass, jewelry, pewter, scented candles and more.

Jones OnStage, the entertaining show choir of Jones County Junior College, will perform prior to the 2 p.m. keynote presentation by featured speaker Beth Holloway. Holloway, the mother of missing teenager Natalee Holloway, will present an inspiring message—one that has touched the hearts of women across America. “There is no way to fully comprehend what this family has gone through,” Vanderslice said. “Beth Holloway has made it her mission to travel the country and talk about women and safey. Holloway’s presentation at the conference will certainly be one that you will not want to miss.”

At the end of the day, every woman attending the Women’s Conference will be given a beautiful floral print designed by local artist Amelia Crumbley. “We have been giving participants a conference print since our first event in 1990,” Vanderslice said. “Many women have a complete collection.”

Sponsors of the Women’s Life Conference this year are South Central Regional Medical Center, the Jones County Medical Alliance, Jones County Junior College, WDAM, Laurel Leader-Call, IMPACT, OncoLogics, Inc., Jones County Medical Supplies, Inc./Quinn Pharmacy, Jefferson Medical Associates, and Laurel Bone and Joint Clinic. Other sponsors include Medtronic, Inc., Regency Hospital, Pine Belt Country B-95, LifeGuard Medical Alerts, the American Cancer Society and Clearview Recovery Center.

For more information about the Women’s Life Conference, call 601-399-0506.

Thanks Klaas!   

I have some really good friends in this area (like sisters to me), wish I could go!   

Keep it going, Beth! Never give up.


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« Reply #1922 on: April 20, 2010, 08:56:43 AM »

Morning Monkeys,

Did anyone else catch the name of the coordinator of the conference Beth is to attend as being Karen Vanderslice?  Ironic, is it not?  Also she is not one of my Vanderslice cousins of ill-repute within my family, lol.

TxMom,

Thanks for the news of the day as always.  I am not sure what that article about Briesen is alleging exactly.  He was tourism and not justice, right?  Are they now blaming him for this debacle? 

Also that has to be the ugliest cake ever.  Looks like someone threw up a fruit salad on top of it.


 
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« Reply #1923 on: April 20, 2010, 09:13:23 AM »

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« Reply #1924 on: April 20, 2010, 11:49:41 AM »

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« Reply #1925 on: April 20, 2010, 11:56:15 AM »

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« Reply #1926 on: April 20, 2010, 12:01:27 PM »

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THE INVOLVEMENT OF DEEPAK AND SATISH KALPOE


Why would Deepak and Satish Kalpoe resist FBI assistance in the Aruban investigation if participation in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 was was limited to dropping Joran Van Sloot and Natalee Holloway off at the beach?
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Name/Title: Complaint by Satish Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5 August 2005
File #: p-2005/03533
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator: Aruban Court
Responsive to Request 32

Name/Title: Complaint By Deepak Kalpoe regarding FBI assistance
Date: 5t August 2005
File #: p-2005103532
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator.. Aruban Court (Gerecht In Eerste Aanleg)
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« Reply #1927 on: April 20, 2010, 02:07:18 PM »


Thanks 2NJ!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1928 on: April 20, 2010, 02:11:05 PM »

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Thirty minutes prior Jug and Beth Twitty’s arrival at the VDS' residence on the morning of May 31, 2005, Deepak Kalpoe’s was observed parked inside the gate of the VDS' compound by the handlers who had met them at the airport upon arriving on the Island.

Deepak's June 13th suspect statement give an account of his movements from the time he left his workplace at 11:00 PM on the evening of May 30, 2005 right through the wee hours of May 31, 2005.  His presence at the VDS residence prior to the arrival of Jug and Beth was an obvious omission..
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  Back at the Holiday Inn (following the Charles Croes meeting) we again ask management about watching the video of their blackjack tables to see what Joran looks like. This time the hotel manger finds someone to show us the tapes. Jug and I will view the tapes while the handlers volunteer to hit the streets to see what they can learn ...

Alberto and Claudio went to the location, looked over the fences, and there it was. A silver-gray Honda with big tailpipes and fancy features, just like the (MB) students had described. They wrote down the license plate number and the address. On the piece of paper is everything we need: the name of Joran van der Sloot, his address, and the tag number.

Page 45:  We haven't located any police yet, but with this solid information (the name, address, and tag number) the handlers decide to take us to the Noord police station.


Case Number: BC3 63401

Name: Holloway Group and MR Stamper
Date: 31 may 2005 / 02:50
Pages: 3
Writer/Initiator. Robert Kock / Lindo Pantophlet / Eric Ras
Description: witness statement


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  At Noord it takes almost half an hour to get uniformed officers to accompany us to the van der Sloot home.

Once we arrive Matt and Ruffner, the two men from home, go around to the back to make sure no one tries to leave. Jug gets out and goes to the front  with the officers. The silver Honda isn't there anymore.
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« Reply #1929 on: April 20, 2010, 04:40:47 PM »

Morning Monkeys,

Did anyone else catch the name of the coordinator of the conference Beth is to attend as being Karen Vanderslice?  Ironic, is it not?  Also she is not one of my Vanderslice cousins of ill-repute within my family, lol.

TxMom,

Thanks for the news of the day as always.  I am not sure what that article about Briesen is alleging exactly.  He was tourism and not justice, right?  Are they now blaming him for this debacle? 

Also that has to be the ugliest cake ever.  Looks like someone threw up a fruit salad on top of it.


 

I thought the camera picked up the reflection of the cake presenter and that's why it was so ugly.   
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« Reply #1930 on: April 20, 2010, 06:15:44 PM »

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klaas Any way to animate that picture? So Freddie shoves the cake in his face?

That's what I'd have done if I was standing there 

Freddy -- be a man and tell the truth. Or are you a founding member of the 'teenie weenie' club with Joran. 


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!

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« Reply #1931 on: April 20, 2010, 09:39:06 PM »

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Deepak Kalpoe related to one of the security guards while they were both detained in the same period of time in June, 2005 that he was a participant along with Paulus van der Sloot and others in the collaboration of the Holiday Inn fabrication.

Considering the Holiday Inn fabrication was conveyed to Jug and Beth in the early hours of May 31, 2005 ... the meeting Deepak had with Paulus and others must taken place prior to the Twitty group's arrival at the VDS' residence.

Deepak had to have been aware that Natalee Holloway was deceased on May 30, 2005 or he would not have been a participant in a lie ... a lie that would be exposed if a live Natalee had turned up. 
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Wednesday, June 29, 2005


MICKEY JOHN, FORMER SUSPECT: ... He (Deepak) said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: The father, too?

JOHN: All of them. They made up...

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say — Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?

JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.

VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?

JOHN: Well, I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him.

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« Reply #1932 on: April 20, 2010, 11:37:45 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17011:delegacion-di-aruba-a-sali-pa-topa-petro-bras-na-brazil&catid=1:local&Itemid=5



Papiamentu translation:

delegacion of aruba owing to leave for come across petro bras at brazil

tuesday, 20 april 2010 19:10

one delegacion encabesa for minister ing. mike de meza, member of parliament ing. donny rasmijn, consehero drs. frank hoevertsz y advocate mr. hans sjiem fat owing to leave for rio de janeiro for reuni cu ehecutivonan of petro bras. eynan the ehecutivonan of valero will uni at the delegacion of aruba for her reunionnan. click read more for more info. the delegacion will reuni cu the ambassador y the consul general of the netherlands at brazil for so prepara for her meeting. will reuni also cu some minister, while cu on the agenda is inclui visit serca some senador. y for at end wait for arrival of one delegacion of valero self for so together they sit at table cu directiva of the compania brazilero petro bras. the compania here is pertenece at gobierno of brazil, then the relacion diplomatico is march hand in hand cu the relacion comercial for try arrive at one acuerdo. during the reciente visit of minister verhagen of relacionnan exterior of the netherlands y minister eurlings of energy of the netherlands at brazil, owing to leave afor cu petro bras do not interesa in cumpra refineria valero at aruba. they're in anja of eleccion y because; such is dunando pit at inversionnan local self enbez of think in haci inversionnan biyonario so in paisnan foreigner. of another near, they owing to show interest if for arrive at another areglonan.

gobierno of aruba is think in three posibilidad, esta one "processing deal" at where cu petro bras will send the crudo for valero at aruba, we is refin'e y mande bek for petro bras for they self mercade'e y sell. cu one deal so petro bras will pay valero aruba one sun suma for procesa the crudo y fuera of esey valero aruba will not have none dolor of cabes more cu the producto, for mercade'e neither for sell. they will have one sun cliente cu will pay one suma fiho for refina the material crudo.

one another posibilidad will is one "long term crude deal" cu is encera cu valero aruba is compromete at cumpra one cantidad of sweep of petroleum for of petro bras during one time defini. as is 1 anja, 5 anja or kizas even 10 anja. for her acuerdo of time largo here petro bras will give valero aruba one tarifa fiho y reduci compara cu they tarifanan normal. in terminologia petrolero will could you tell cu valero aruba is cumpra the petroleum at "bulk" y because; such is mara his self at one cantidad determina adelanta y is ricibi one tarifa much special. the type of areglonan so coastal aruba y valero aruba had for much anja cu one compania mexicano. in the type of dealnan so valero aruba is cumpra the crudo y after of esey the self have for mercade'e y busca throw pe on market internacional. claro cu the have cierto riesgo but the benefit in one acuerdo so is mucho more cu immidiately hour of procesa only.

the ultimo posibilidad is one "joint venture" in cual cu petro bras is send the crudo aruba y together cu valero aruba is refina the producto y together is sell the producto end. at end the two companianan is part the benefit y if in caso cu have perdida will comparti esakinan also. the ultimo scenario here will can is one adelanto for petro bras, for close conoci of serca cu the refineria of aruba in caso cu they have interest for cumpra the refineria in the anjanan we fast.

minister ing. mike de meza is believe cu we have one good chens in the negosacionnan cu the brazileronan. the is as at cuenta the stabilidad politico cu we conoce at aruba, the stabilidad hudicial, we stabilidad fiscal y without forget the relacion cu we country have cu partnernan strategico as is merca, europa y caribe. the mandatario owing to tell cu valero self because; compania now is feel they self more at home at aruba after of cambio of gobernacion. specialmente now cu the gobierno new owing to insisti cu have to have stabilidad fiscal, by of owing to regulation cu valero on the asunto of bbo is give inversionistanan internacional mucho more confianza in we country.

the delegacion will return diadomingo now for of they visit at rio de janeiro.


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1934 on: April 20, 2010, 11:48:13 PM »

STILL HERE

HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE..

ALL IN DUE TIME


 
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STILL HERE

HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE..

ALL IN DUE TIME


 

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« Reply #1936 on: April 20, 2010, 11:51:21 PM »

STILL HERE

HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE..

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« Reply #1937 on: April 21, 2010, 09:41:10 AM »

Not sure if this was posted already from local Aruban papers....also note that the female victim's name changes from Norman to Benson, which I suspect is the writer's error.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/21/pf-13661441.html
 
April 21, 2010

Canadian killed in ATV crash in Aruba

By RANDY RICHMOND, QMI Agency

   
LONDON, Ont. - A St. Thomas man is dead and his wife in hospital after a crash on an ATV in Aruba that has raised questions about the safety of some vacation excursions.

According to Aruba newspaper reports, Frederich Norman, 41, was killed Friday and Christine Norman, 37, was injured when an ATV they had rented was struck by a pickup truck that may have swerved into an oncoming lane.

The crash occurred on the main road that connects the port city of Oranjestad, where cruise ships dock, with resorts that line beaches to the north.

The pair was travelling on a seven-day cruise on the Caribbean Princess, said Julie Benson, vice-president of public affairs for Princess Cruise Lines in California.

"The whole thing is just so tragic," Benson said Tuesday. "We were very saddened to learn about the accident."

Benson confirmed the couple was from the St. Thomas area.

Benson also said Christine Benson had been airlifted from a hospital in Aruba to Canada.

A patient named Christine Benson was listed in fair condition Tuesday at London Health Sciences Centre, but the hospital could not confirm her age.

A four-wheel ATV ridden by the Normans collided head-on with the pickup truck, throwing both Canadians from the vehicle, according to a report in an Aruban newspaper, Diario, and online accounts from fellow passengers.

According to the newspaper story, the truck may have swerved into the ATV and police reportedly found drugs in the cab.

Photographs on the newspaper website showed the front end of the ATV smashed and ambulance crews working on victims by the side of the road.

Many travellers cited the accident as reason to be wary when choosing vacation excursions.

The ATV rental was not one sanctioned by Princess Cruise Lines, which requires a stringent set of rules and safety measures before recommending local companies to passengers, Benson said.

"I'm going to post a warning on the Aruba board -- wear a helmet and be aware of local driving rules," said a fellow cruise passenger from Philadelphia.

From different lane directions to looser safety standards, travellers take a risk when driving in other countries, several cruise ship veterans said online.

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