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msmarple
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April 23, 2007, 03:56:03 PM »
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/23/dungeon.trial.ap/index.html
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DARLINGTON, South Carolina (AP) -- A jury has acquitted a convicted sex offender of charges he raped two teen girls in an underground bunker.
The jury found Kenneth Glenn Hinson, 48, not guilty of kidnapping, sex crimes and assault with intent to kill.
Hinson wiped his eyes and mouth and appeared to cry after the jury read its verdict, which followed about four hours of deliberations over two days. (Watch relatives of his accusers break into tears )
"I think the verdict says it all," he said as he was escorted from the courtroom.
Authorities had charged that Hinson snatched the 17-year-old girls from their bedroom last year and dragged them one at a time to the underground room hidden beneath a tool shed, where he raped and bound them with duct tape. Prosecutors said Hinson expected the girls to die because the room had no air supply.
However, Hinson testified during the six-day trial that the girls had consensual sex with him. He said they made up the story so they would be able to take drugs from the underground room, which he used to store marijuana.
?? ??
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April 23, 2007, 03:56:15 PM »
Anna,
I d recall Anita saying everyone wants to hang her sporter. I also recall how she said they (ALE) should have detained the 3
boys
from the begining and gotten answers from them. Maybe Joran learned his "double-talk" from Anita?
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Reply #222 on:
April 23, 2007, 03:58:25 PM »
Hi
dk
- good to see you; I have been meaning to ask about you ... sorry you have been ill.
There's a thread for ATA Travel Shows -
vicki
is doing Miami
April 28 and 29 ...
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San
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April 23, 2007, 03:58:46 PM »
Quote from: "igsigs"
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Joran will be interviewed on 24 April in the daily Dutch programme De wereld draat door. The PBS programme is mainly watched by
high educated viewers who are interested in culture, politics and media.
This interview can be watched at this website on 25 April,
http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl
It has around 700.000 viewers daily.
I guess the Kalpoes & Freddy won't be watching.
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bleachedblack
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April 23, 2007, 03:58:57 PM »
Just thought I'd throw in this pic incase Robots is around and see if I can skeeeeeer him.
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April 23, 2007, 04:00:50 PM »
English Translation courtesy of lousw at BFN.
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English translation:
A team of experts from klpd from holland came to aruba to follow up the investication in the halloway case.Rudi croes the minister says this is not because the aruban local autority is inferior.Oranjestad This group of klpd helps the aruban with the case of natalee halloway.because this is still an open case and a lot of questions not answered That is why they asked for help from mr. van zunder the general derector of klpd.Minister croes says that this is not because the locale people are not able to do it.A while ago two officials already looked into the case and looked true all the documents now they are back to continue this and see if they and the local officials can come to a conclusion in this case and they think that working together will lead to a faster conclution.
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April 23, 2007, 04:07:24 PM »
Quote from: "msmarple"
O/T -
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/23/dungeon.trial.ap/index.html
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DARLINGTON, South Carolina (AP) -- A jury has acquitted a convicted sex offender of charges he raped two teen girls in an underground bunker.
The jury found Kenneth Glenn Hinson, 48, not guilty of kidnapping, sex crimes and assault with intent to kill.
Hinson wiped his eyes and mouth and appeared to cry after the jury read its verdict, which followed about four hours of deliberations over two days. (Watch relatives of his accusers break into tears )
"I think the verdict says it all," he said as he was escorted from the courtroom.
Authorities had charged that Hinson snatched the 17-year-old girls from their bedroom last year and dragged them one at a time to the underground room hidden beneath a tool shed, where he raped and bound them with duct tape. Prosecutors said Hinson expected the girls to die because the room had no air supply.
However, Hinson testified during the six-day trial that the girls had consensual sex with him. He said they made up the story so they would be able to take drugs from the underground room, which he used to store marijuana.
?? ??
This makes me sick. He will now go free to do this to another child but only this time they won't be so lucky to escape.
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April 23, 2007, 04:18:26 PM »
San,
That is awful. I am sad to agree with you, this guy is going to re-offend, and more than likely has commited predatory crimes in the past. What does someone need an underground bunker for?......Oh that's right! to store their marijuana of course. What ever happened to endagering the welfare of a child? These 2 girls were 17!
As far as I am concerned.....warm up the chair.
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Reply #228 on:
April 23, 2007, 04:20:11 PM »
Quote from: "igsigs"
Per
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on
FOB
Joran will be interviewed on 24 April in the daily Dutch programme De wereld draat door. The PBS programme is mainly watched by high educated viewers who are interested in culture, politics and media.
This interview can be watched at this website on 25 April,
http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl
It has around 700.000 viewers daily.
Ah, the book tour.
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Anna
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April 23, 2007, 04:20:37 PM »
Makes me sick, too, San. With the girls being minors I wonder why this was not at least statutory rape. Guess the age of consent is lower than 17 in that state?
Also kidnapping girls and keeping them in an underground room under a shed is right out of James Patterson's Kiss the Girls novel and movie. I doubt this fella has done much reading lately but I would just about bet he has seen the movie. That's where he got this idea!
Open season on teenage girls it seems.
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Reply #230 on:
April 23, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »
Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
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April 23, 2007, 04:22:35 PM »
Quote from: "adoronron"
Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
Well, Dave walked into the police station and saw a statement all torn to shreds on Dennis Jacobs desk.
I wonder what that was about.
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April 23, 2007, 04:24:10 PM »
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Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
Again, I am not Klaas but Paulus refers to helping Joran with his statement, that would be one before that date but we do not have a copy of it if one was made.
We do not have access to all the statements, unfortunately.
.
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Patti
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April 23, 2007, 04:26:17 PM »
Hi Klaas, and everybody:
Do you remember who provided the casino video tapes and why?
I was thinking that it was provided because the family had requested
the tapes and with the help of the media, they were attained.
Am I right?
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April 23, 2007, 04:26:24 PM »
Quote from: "adoronron"
Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
I am not Klaas, but no, I don't see any statement that we have been made priveledge to prior to 6/9.
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April 23, 2007, 04:28:21 PM »
Quote from: "Patti"
Hi Klaas, and everybody:
Do you remember who provided the casino video tapes and why?
I was thinking that it was provided because the family had requested
the tapes and with the help of the media, they were attained.
Am I right?
They were "leaked" to ABC news and Posner was reportedly furious over it. No one provided anything or cooperated in any way. And ABC wouldn't let anybody else much use the tape either.
So some casino worker or SECURITY COMPANY leaked them without permission of Posner to whom they would likely legally own.
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adoronron
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Reply #236 on:
April 23, 2007, 04:29:06 PM »
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "adoronron"
Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
Again, I am not Klaas but Paulus refers to helping Joran with his statement, that would be one before that date but we do not have a copy of it if one was made.
We do not have access to all the statements, unfortunately.
.
That would be a very telling statement. I bet in that statement Joran was probably already pulling a double cross on the Kalpo's. As directed by PVS.
Ado
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April 23, 2007, 04:29:40 PM »
Quote from: "Patti"
Hi Klaas, and everybody:
Do you remember who provided the casino video tapes and why?
I was thinking that it was provided because the family had requested
the tapes and with the help of the media, they were attained.
Am I right?
We(the public) were first able to view the casino video tapes which were obtained by ABC News and were presented by Cris Cuomo . I don't recall the exact date......
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April 23, 2007, 04:29:44 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "adoronron"
Klaas,
Is there a Joran police statment prior to 6/9/2005?
Ado
I am not Klaas, but no, I don't see any statement that we have been made priveledge to prior to 6/9.
Joran = main suspect.
Odd statements from K2 but not main suspect isn't it. Typical.
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April 23, 2007, 04:29:58 PM »
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Patti"
Hi Klaas, and everybody:
Do you remember who provided the casino video tapes and why?
I was thinking that it was provided because the family had requested
the tapes and with the help of the media, they were attained.
Am I right?
They were "leaked" to ABC news and Posner was reportedly furious over it. No one provided anything or cooperated in any way. And ABC wouldn't let anybody else much use the tape either.
So some casino worker or SECURITY COMPANY leaked them without permission of Posner to whom they would likely legally own.
.
And, I assume we still don't know who leaked them?
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