Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 - 7/28/09

[Patriot]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

You must be friends with one of them to see it, right, Patriot?   

[Anna]

I wonder if Hotshot ever got Dave Holloway's new phone number.  She really can't take a hint about anything. 

[Anna]

I really resent those who claim to know what we all think about everything.  Just because some of us do not take ALE's word for what was in the trap does not mean we are convinced it was Natalee in the first place.  I, for one, just don't know what it was.

Experts thought it was Natalee at the time of discovery.  Now we have no way of knowing what it was because only ALE had access.  They could have sent all or some or none or totally different to they FBI for all I know just as blood once turned into chocolate.  They have been known in the past to be just that sort of "miracle workers."   

I have to wonder what happened to some so that they became so trusting of Aruban sources given the history of deceit.

[Patriot]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

You must be friends with one of them to see it, right, Patriot?   

That is correct.  I am. An it's not Hotshot that's for sure...

[Tamikosmom]

Prodigal Monkeys have a choice ... either Kyle Kingman is the grandfather of all liars and John Silvetti has been despicably defamed OR ... Kyle Kingman was revealing the truth when he implied in his own words that John Silvetti participated with the enemy in furthering the Aruban coverup.

Which is it?

Janet

+++++


PRODIGAL MONKEYS

Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »

Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg880667#msg880667


VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007 - VISUAL DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HOW OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive.  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.


RECOVERY DIVE - JANUARY 7, 2008

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman   I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.  The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

Kyle Kingman:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap.

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.


NATALEE'S UNCLE

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435

Edit: Typo MB

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

You must be friends with one of them to see it, right, Patriot?   

That is correct.  I am. An it's not Hotshot that's for sure...

    I'm fairly new to facebook and have some 'friends' who use applications that I should just hide.  It may be that I have to look at my options/settings.   

[Keepthefaith]

Prodical Monkeys have a choice ... either Kyle Kingman is the grandfather of all liars and John Silvetti has been despicably defamed OR ... Kyle Kingman was revealing the truth when he implied in his own words that John Silvetti participated with the enemy in furthering the Aruban coverup.

Which is it?

Janet

+++++


PRODICAL MONKEYS

Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »

Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg880667#msg880667


VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007 - VISUAL DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HOW OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive.  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.


RECOVERY DIVE - JANUARY 7, 2008

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman   I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.  The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

Kyle Kingman:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap.

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.


NATALEE'S UNCLE

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435

Logic Dictates that the prodical monkeys won't answer the question Janet,Although it is a simple one...

[Tamikosmom]

Good Morning All.

It is a beautiful day in the Fraser Valley of British Columbia.  I will work until noon on Natalee Holloway stuff and ... then a walk around the seawall of False Creek which is located near world famous Stanley Park with hubby's sisters is where it is at while ... hubby and BIL's are fishing for the "big one" off of Point Grey ... the University of British Columbia (UBC).  The meeting place for guys and gals will be at dinner time at Vancouver's Granville Market public wharf.  I would like to eat at "The Keg" ... I really crave a charbroiled steak  but considering other than me all other are Japanese ... I suspect I will be overruled and ... Japanese food will be were it is at.

 

Have a good day all.

Janet
10:40 AM PT

[Tamikosmom]

Prodical Monkeys have a choice ... either Kyle Kingman is the grandfather of all liars and John Silvetti has been despicably defamed OR ... Kyle Kingman was revealing the truth when he implied in his own words that John Silvetti participated with the enemy in furthering the Aruban coverup.

Which is it?

Janet

+++++


PRODICAL MONKEYS

Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »

Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg880667#msg880667


VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007 - VISUAL DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HOW OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive.  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.


RECOVERY DIVE - JANUARY 7, 2008

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman   I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.  The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

Kyle Kingman:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap.

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.


NATALEE'S UNCLE

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435

Logic Dictates that the prodical monkeys won't answer the question Janet,Although it is a simple one...

Hi Keepthefaith.  It has been a while.  I hope all is right with your world.

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

It is wonderful Janet!Thanx for asking.Hope all is well up north?It's about time we got a stretch of beautiful weather...No better place at this time of year then the Northwest...

[Tamikosmom]

Thanks MuffyBee.

Janet

[MuffyBee]

Thanks MuffyBee.

Janet

YW.  Your files are so organized and everything looks so orderly, I hoped you didn't mind if I fixed that one little item.   

[Tamikosmom]

Thanks MuffyBee.

Janet

YW.  Your files are so organized and everything looks so orderly, I hoped you didn't mind if I fixed that one little item.   

MuffyBee ... not only do I not mind ... I appreciate your efforts so much.

 

Sister-In-Law just drove up the driveway.  I am off for the day but ... I will return.

 

Have a good day all.

Janet

[Nut44x4]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

 

[MuffyBee]

Hotshot posts the dumbest stuff on Dave Holloway's Facebook wall... I can't beleive he's friends with her...

She's embarrasing!

 

 

[Keepthefaith]

Was just stoppin in to see if "Bro" was up to the task today?Answering Janet's the question that is....Is today the day?

[bastibro]

Prodigal Monkeys have a choice ... either Kyle Kingman is the grandfather of all liars and John Silvetti has been despicably defamed OR ... Kyle Kingman was revealing the truth when he implied in his own words that John Silvetti participated with the enemy in furthering the Aruban coverup.

Which is it?

Janet

+++++


PRODIGAL MONKEYS

Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS. There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help. I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899


bastibro
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »

Kyle is not a liar and having seen all the pics that have been circulating on the internet I just don`t believe that were the remains of Natalee.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5372.msg880667#msg880667


VISUAL DIVE - DECEMBER 30, 2007 - VISUAL DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HOW OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman:  We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive.  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.


RECOVERY DIVE - JANUARY 7, 2008

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman   I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.  The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE.

Kyle Kingman:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap.

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.


NATALEE'S UNCLE

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435

Edit: Typo MB

Janet, Janet, it`s really not that difficult you know . .

Silvetti took the words of ALE for gospel, in other words;
Silvetti did trust ALE in handling the samples they took and Kyle obviously did not.

What I think is they(Persistence crew) should have taken the evidence before ALE was able to do so.

They had plenty time between the 30th and the 7th.
It will always be a wasted opportunity IMO

[bastibro]

Was just stoppin in to see if "Bro" was up to the task today?Answering Janet's the question that is....Is today the day?

I wouldn`t mind to translate my answer in German for you

[Keepthefaith]

Was just stoppin in to see if "Bro" was up to the task today?Answering Janet's the question that is....Is today the day?

I wouldn`t mind to translate my answer in German for you

Again Bastibro..IS KYLE A LIAR,and in doing so defamed John silvetti,or is he telling the TRUTH as he saw it?VERY SIMPLE..