Lively Case Discussion #495 7/15 - 7/16/2006

[Jacqueline]

Well said Sunny... I know I am guilty at times,  

I might have to ban myself at times then....

 

I don't think I have come across too many raunchy posts here, especially compared to other sites.

Every once in awhile there needs to be a break in the tension with some humor....JMHO

You do not have to ban yourself.  You are a jewel among stones.

TG you are always way too nice to me....

Thanks for saying that...

[AZLady]

"Klaas was working on something important."

That is very important and I am so happy that Red called the family to inform them of this.  Whoever did it was cheap and tawdry to do that.  It makes them look even worse than or as bad as JR.  

I am sure Debbie appreciated the opportunity to correct it as well.  

Sunny, I am glad you brought that up.  We all get off topic and we all talk to one another and that is all fine and good, but I do think we may have, at times, gone a little over board and like you, I am as guilty as the next person, and I will try to watch my posting and my mouth.

It only diminishes us by doing this and acting in this manner, and diminishes Natalee's memory and what she would want for others and especially her parents.

Tyler, I suggest we work on the buddy system.  When I start to get out of hand, will you please put me in the corner and tell me to cool off?  I promise to do the same for you.  We both have the same goals here, and we can help each other.  I'm sure I'll need many more time outs than you!  

That's a deal.  I appreciate that.  Reign me in!

 High five, girlfriend!  

[Lala'sMom]

Good evening monkeys.  What's up?

[AZLady]

NG on now

[San]

Nancy Grace show that was on at 8:00 is the same show at 10:00

[Shell]

Klaas-out of curiousity, I would like to email you and ask that you email me back with the Dutch version. I would like to send it to my Dutch friend, who is very good at English as well, and see how he reads it. If you do not wish to do that, no problem, your choice.

[AZLady]

This looks like what I saw two hours ago.  Weird.

[klaasend]

OK, not beat beat a dead horse/donkey/mule, but has anyone ever found a picture of Lorenzo VR?  OK, there, I said the L word. Sorry.

But remember, we tried to link him to Mr. Pink, Paul Brough, the guy from MI?  If we are headed back down the porn/human trafficking road, I am intereted in them.

And I was just reading that Skeeters may have come close to finding Amy Bradley?  Anyone know if that's true?  That Skeeters almost made it to her but she was shipped off to Europe and doesn't seem to want to come home?  Is any of THAT true?

Possible pictures of Lorenzo - not verified:



Lorenzo's home:



There are rumored links to porn, drugs and rave parties.

I don't know about Skeeters and Amy Bradley.  I want to say that was something mentioned on Dr. Phil.

[klaasend]

[klaasend]

Klaas-out of curiousity, I would like to email you and ask that you email me back with the Dutch version. I would like to send it to my Dutch friend, who is very good at English as well, and see how he reads it. If you do not wish to do that, no problem, your choice.

Shell - why don't you email Red and ask him about it.  red@scaredmonkeys.com

I'm not at liberty to share any of it with anyone.

[Anna]

Sunny - yesterday I spent a couple hours translating and re-translating the Dutch version to be absolutely certain the one posted at BFN was incorrect.  We informed the family last night.

A HUGE thanks to you and Red...I know the family appreciated it and we sure do here.....when I spoke with Dave he mentioned his great appreciation to RED and SM....and all of us who pray for them and support them...and that support does give them strength......he DOES read here!  He told me so.

This brings to mind something that I feel I have to say...and this is as good a time as any....we have been getting pretty raunchy in some of the talk here ......and knowing that Dave DOES read here I would hope that we would ALL think about what we are wrinting and clean up our acts...I am as guilty as anyone else.....you know I love to cuss and spit.....so before we post something off color, raunchy or across the line...let's stop and think how we might feel if Dave reads it...or any other person who is a family member of Natalee   Let's think Respect the Family before we post.....JMO

I agree, too, Sunny.  And not only Dave and the family but others read here as well like Dana yesterday morning.  I would call that news but no, the chatter did NOT stop and I was mortified to think he had been reading along as it sounded like junior high toilet talk all morning.  I don't think we can expect to be taken seriously when we have on the main thread all that not only off topic but also off color.  

We all post anonymously.  The only one whose name is front and center in this thread is Natalee.  Please don't post anything her family would not want associated with her good name and reputation.  We have the lounge for all the O/T and O/T photos that take up so much bandwidth.

Think of those with dial up modems before you post photos that do not belong in this thread but in the lounge.  It must take an eternity for all them to download especially if the next person to comment on them also reposts the photo over and over again.

JMO.

[Shell]

Klaas-out of curiousity, I would like to email you and ask that you email me back with the Dutch version. I would like to send it to my Dutch friend, who is very good at English as well, and see how he reads it. If you do not wish to do that, no problem, your choice.

Shell - why don't you email Red and ask him about it.  red@scaredmonkeys.com

I'm not at liberty to share any of it with anyone.

ok, I understand. I tried to email you before I read this post but my email page kept coming up blank, so I was going to scratch that idea anyhow.

[mrs. red]

Now, I am waiting for the THANK YOU that Ms. Julia Renfro owes to Red and Klaas.

I will not hold my breathe for that one. Trust me, it pained me to be right. I wanted it to be originally correct ... but it just seemed to weird for that to be in the statement.

I will vouch that Red did not want to be right (this time)

Julia Renfro has been hateful and nasty to this family and to many of us.  However, it is unthinkable for us to not tell the truth even if it has this result.  It may be a platitude that is oversaid, but the truth will set us free.  Thank you, Red, for setting an example for all of us.[/quote

Yes AzLady, you are right... but I was just trying to say that it wasn't with any great pleasure that Red had to say that the translation wasn't correct.

[Shell]

Red, you should have access to my email, if there is ever anything in Dutch, that is not sensitive information, and you want it translated, feel free to send it to me.

[Whodunit?]

Klaas, so all of this info is off?  (Incorrect?)

http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/lorenzo-van-rijn.html

[MissinNat]

Good evening monkeys.  What's up?

Hi Lala's!  We are just watching Nancy Grace.  

Hope you have a great week!

[AZLady]

I will vouch that Red did not want to be right (this time)

Julia Renfro has been hateful and nasty to this family and to many of us.  However, it is unthinkable for us to not tell the truth even if it has this result.  It may be a platitude that is oversaid, but the truth will set us free.  Thank you, Red, for setting an example for all of us.

Yes AzLady, you are right... but I was just trying to say that it wasn't with any great pleasure that Red had to say that the translation wasn't correct.

I understand and sympathize!  

[mrs. red]

Well said Sunny... I know I am guilty at times,  

I might have to ban myself at times then....

 

I don't think I have come across too many raunchy posts here, especially compared to other sites.

Every once in awhile there needs to be a break in the tension with some humor....JMHO

Aw my sistah... you aren't raunchy... and O/T can be fine.. but there was some discussion yesterday that was pretty suggestive... and I am guilty of participating and forgetting that maybe that conversation wasn't exactly appropriate...

[AZLady]

NG used to irritate me, but I've grown to really like her!  She's tough and isn't afraid to ask the real questions.

[Shizaru]

[
    We will call him Ben Miller. OK?

Well, that could be confusing because there is actually a Ben Miller who saw her leave, he's just not the one who saw her with Deepak.

And has been said to be everybody from Bryan Reynolds to Thomas Twitty.  Yeah, think I will call him Ben Miller, too.  Or that other kid that hangs around with Bo Barron, can't recall his name now.  

Never heard anybody except Dan Rhiel claim to know who that was or even say it happened Shizaru.  I'd have to have it from a source oater than Dan or Harry Tho., the tow who came up with the orgasm theory.  Dan used to call an annoy the MB kids all the time and they would lie to him just for kicks and to get rid of him especially after he started trashing Natalee as he did.

So don't know but will look late and see if I have anything saved on that.  Personally, I don't think it ever happened that it was Deepak who lead Natalee to the car other than in Dan's imagination.

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Dave has said he's personally spoken to the Deepak witness, I'm somewhat skeptical of his story but he's definitely real.  And I'm 95% certain I know his name, the only way I could be wrong is if an e-mail forwarded to me was fake but I very much doubt it was.