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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2006, 05:56:25 PM »

How rude of me - Good Evening Monkeys!
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2006, 05:59:48 PM »

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How rude of me - Good Evening Monkeys!

Hi Frijole.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2006, 06:03:37 PM »

I posted these 2 messages just before the end of last thread so I'm reposting.  BBL.

1)  Oh, hi monkeys!

Tyler, I hope you are feeling much better and recovering.

Snoopy, I'm sorry for your loss.

Jacqueline, I'm so happy about your uncle's release!

Hubbylove, so nice to see you back.   (HL, saw your reply!)

Has Nonesuche been by lately?

I haven't been here for a week except occasional lurking... Shocked Shocked ...someone was poofed?! Good heavens! Everytime I fail to show up even for 24 hours I miss so much. Gotta read back four threads! Shocked See y'all later!


2)  Hi Anna. Didn't Fox (maybe Greta) have an interview with two or three of Natalee's closest friends recently...one was a blonde with very long wavy hair? I thought it was Clare but may be wrong. They talked to media for the first time. I thought she said she left CnC's that night because she was sick. Wondering it that's the one you were talking about. I think she said they rode to CnC's together...which caused questions I always had:
how did Natalee get there and who did she go with...plus why didn't she stick with them?

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2006, 06:04:04 PM »

Good evening Monkeys!

lexie: Very interesting about the criminal filing by Taco.

What if Taco has counsel working with him, say co-counsel,  who can practice law in Aruba?? Anyone know?
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2006, 06:04:54 PM »

HI SAN!!!!  I hope you are still feeling better all the time!
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2006, 06:05:36 PM »

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How rude of me - Good Evening Monkeys!

Hi Frijole.


Hi San - good to see you again.  

That FP announcement had me rolling.  Let's see....

Van der Stratten already left
Janssen is rumored to be leaving
Bernadino - leaving
Dompig - leaving
Guess Jacobs is next huh?  Unless they promote him. LOL

Looks like everyone is conveniently retiring so that no one will
have the blood of Natalee on their hands.  Little do they know.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2006, 06:11:16 PM »

HI FRIJOLE!!!!  Good to see you.   Gotta run...DH is buying my dinner!
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2006, 06:15:43 PM »

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HI FRIJOLE!!!!  Good to see you.   Gotta run...DH is buying my dinner!


Hi Tidy!  Enjoy your dinner.
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2006, 06:18:22 PM »

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Brain Drain in the Aruban Polis Dept.????

 Shocked  Shocked

That is hysterical.

Reminds me of an expression , "You can't suck blood out of a turnip".

What's to drain, ya know?  LMAO[/b]


It is so funny!  Guess this means they are going to get even WORSE???
 Cool Is that possible?  Dompig was like their brain trust, I guess???  That was their A Team??   Confused
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2006, 06:22:00 PM »

Ok one of the main suspects is now working for the law firm that represented him and his son.. So will Joran now become the new Commissioner of the Aruba police force.. Hey I know thats silly but is it????
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« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2006, 06:22:15 PM »

Seems like Angie is just busy these days.  I hope to catch her on here sometime soon.  Coming back from vacation has been rough and I really wish I could take a nap right now!  

Keep up the good work monkeys!
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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2006, 06:23:24 PM »

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I2)  Hi Anna. Didn't Fox (maybe Greta) have an interview with two or three of Natalee's closest friends recently...one was a blonde with very long wavy hair? I thought it was Clare but may be wrong. They talked to media for the first time. I thought she said she left CnC's that night because she was sick. Wondering it that's the one you were talking about. I think she said they rode to CnC's together...which caused questions I always had:
how did Natalee get there and who did she go with...plus why didn't she stick with them?

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I remember the girls but not much of that interview for some reason.  So she was not feeling well but I think the crowd would be loud, too, and it would be easy to be separated dancing.  The photo of Natalee on stage shows her will the MB kids, however.  Dancing with one of them and everything is just fine until Joran shows up.   Evil or Very Mad

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« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2006, 06:24:21 PM »

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Good evening Monkeys!

lexie: Very interesting about the criminal filing by Taco.

What if Taco has counsel working with him, say co-counsel,  who can practice law in Aruba?? Anyone know?


On his website. there are 2 other attorneys listed. and one lists NY & International Law...not sure if he'd be what you are suggesting, but good question.  Stern is one of their last names, but the one with International experience has a Greek sounding name that I didn't write down.  Just Google Joesph Tacopina and you'll find it.
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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2006, 06:56:02 PM »

Anything going on today?  Will there be anything on cable tonight?  What about Primetime on ABC.  Seems I remember reading last week that Beth would be on that show tonight.  Is that right?
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2006, 06:59:31 PM »

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Good evening Monkeys!

lexie: Very interesting about the criminal filing by Taco.

What if Taco has counsel working with him, say co-counsel,  who can practice law in Aruba?? Anyone know?


On his website. there are 2 other attorneys listed. and one lists NY & International Law...not sure if he'd be what you are suggesting, but good question.  Stern is one of their last names, but the one with International experience has a Greek sounding name that I didn't write down.  Just Google Joesph Tacopina and you'll find it.


Hi everybody.  I keep getting booted offline - 3 days now. of course AOHELL is no help with the issue.  Sad

AS far as International law, I think that is a specialty like someone who practices corporate law or just civil vs criminal.  I know that Taco has had cases in Italy, but whether he has license to practice there is another question.  I know in USA, you have to be licensed in each state you practice in.  I would imagine, that one would have to take the law boards for whatever country and then be licensed.  Maybe that is where Taco has been hiding.  Studying up on Dutch law and greasing palms.
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2006, 07:00:16 PM »

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Anything going on today?  Will there be anything on cable tonight?  What about Primetime on ABC.  Seems I remember reading last week that Beth would be on that show tonight.  Is that right?

Easy - hate to say it but I think the person who posted that at BFN turned out to be a troll.  I don't see anything on the ABC website.
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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2006, 07:04:18 PM »

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Anything going on today?  Will there be anything on cable tonight?  What about Primetime on ABC.  Seems I remember reading last week that Beth would be on that show tonight.  Is that right?

Easy - hate to say it but I think the person who posted that at BFN turned out to be a troll.  I don't see anything on the ABC website.


Doesn't that just figure?  I don't want to see a five minute clip anyway.  I would like to see a two-hour indepth look at this thing.  It is incredible!
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2006, 07:06:54 PM »

Good day Monkeys  
(I hope)

I'v been attempting to find a video / transcript from around June 9, 2005.
Seems like I heard of a clip showing when JVDS was arrested.

I'm just trying to figure out what time of day it was and IF they did any search of the property that day.. I know they did a search on the 15th and that is when the cars were impounded.

TIA
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2006, 07:14:29 PM »

For those of you in AZ and the surrounding states ... Amber Alert issued

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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2006, 07:14:40 PM »

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Good day Monkeys  
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I'v been attempting to find a video / transcript from around June 9, 2005.
Seems like I heard of a clip showing when JVDS was arrested.

I'm just trying to figure out what time of day it was and IF they did any search of the property that day.. I know they did a search on the 15th and that is when the cars were impounded.

TIA


Three More Aruba Suspects Arrested

Thursday, June 09, 2005
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba — FOX News has learned that three more men have been arrested in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of American tourist Natalee Holloway — the same three young men who were previously questioned as witnesses in the case.

Carla Caccavale, a Holloway family spokesperson, told FOX that Aruban authorities had informed them of the arrests.

Aruban police confirmed the arrests, saying the three men had been picked up at about 5:30 a.m. and that their residences were being searched.

One of the men, a Dutch citizen whose father is said to be a prominent official in the Aruban justice system, may have been romantically involved with the 18-year-old Alabaman the night she disappeared.

Chris Lejuez, court-appointed defense attorney for one of the two men previously arrested in the Holloway case, told FOX News that he and his colleague Noraina Pietersz had been given witness statements from only two of the three men — those of the Surinamese citizens, but not the Dutchman.

Lejuez said the two Surinamese told police that the Dutchman had become intimate with Holloway at the California Lighthouse beach before they dropped her off at her hotel.

According to the attorney, the two told police Holloway had been drinking heavily and was drunk, and then when she got out of their car in front of the Holiday Inn, she stumbled and fell to the ground.

When one tried to help her up, she pushed him away and said "I can stand on my own!"

They say she then headed towards the lobby, and a black man in black pants and a black t-shirt escorted her inside.

The tape from the Holiday Inn lobby camera was reportedly checked by police but no images of Natalee were found, and the attorney says the security guard on duty from midnight on told authorities he never saw Natalee enter the hotel that night.

On Wednesday, a judge ruled that authorities had enough evidence to hold two former security guards in connection with Holloway's disappearance.

At least one of the suspects, 28-year-old Abraham Jones, appeared in court in Aruba Wednesday morning. The other was identified as 30-year-old Mickey John.

Neither man has been charged with a crime, but both were being held on suspicion of first- and second-degree murder and capital kidnapping, the latter of which is invoked when a kidnapping victim is killed, according to their lawyers, Pietersz and Lejuez.

"They have told me that according to police they fit the description of the last two people who were seen with Natalee," Lejuez told FOX News.

Authorities may hold suspects John and Jones without filing formal charges for up to 116 days, lawyers said. The two men were arrested Sunday on the southwestern tip of Aruba in the May 30 disappearance of 18-year-old Holloway.

The two are Aruban citizens, though one is originally from Grenada, Lejuez said.

Judge J.S. Kuiperdal will review the case June 15 and every eight days after that if needed, officials said.

Both suspects have said they were nowhere near the blonde honors student's hotel on the Caribbean resort destination the night she vanished — so far without a trace. They deny any connection to Holloway.

In an interview after the hearing, Pietersz said prosecutors asked that the defendants be kept in jail at least until June 15, when they hope to conclude their investigation.

Vivian Van Der Biezan, spokeswoman for the attorney general's office, said investigators must come up with some evidence to hold the suspects beyond that date.

Der Biezan also said she would check into whether Dutch law allows a charge of murder if no body is found. Investigators "cannot exclude the possibility of a criminal act because of the days that have passed."

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

"I do believe my client is innocent, that's all I can tell you," she added.

Jones' mother told FOX News outside the courtroom that her son was at home sick the night in question. She also said she thought her son and the other man in custody were being framed.

Cynthia Rosalie Jones, 64, added that the only way her son knew about Holloway was from seeing the news on television.

"They have my son there for something he knows nothing about," Jones said emphatically. "My son is innocent."

Jones' wife, Cynthia De Graaf, said she and her husband were together continuously on May 29 and May 30, the day Holloway was last seen.

"He was home. He was even sick," De Graaf said, breaking down in tears as she waited outside the courthouse for the hearing to start. "They ruined everything. My daughter has been asking for her father."


I believe this is when Deepak's car was impounded
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