Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11

[fatcatlurker]

This is a great video showing the path of all the witness sightings going thru the neighborhood if anyone is interested.  It really lays it out from Irwin home to dumpster fire to gas station than 4am sighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK91LdOmE40

[islandmonkey]

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980712010#.TrMWy_nchRk.twitter
Lisa Irwin Mystery: What Happened the Night of October 4th
November 03, 2011 04:31 PM EDT
CBS News has released a time line in the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin. This time line is supposed to show the public what investigators believed happened to Lisa and hopes that anyone who may have seen or heard something during the time gaps will come forward. This is a bold step for investigators, who originally wanted to focus on the family. Perhaps their focus is still on the family, despite this new time line.
 ::snipping2::

I just read this article and it said that NOBODY checked on Lisa between the hours of 6:40 PM and 3:45 AM.....Maybe there wasn't any reason to check on her because she wasn't there? Even if the baby was NOT sick, a mother would check on their baby every hour or so especially since she went to bed so early. I would think she would have checked on her even between drinks! I'm thinking she wasn't there to check on.

If your outside you can't hear IF something is wrong with the baby, since she was sick.......
Makes no sense to me....
Did deb over medicate Lisa or give her a bottle filled with booze to make her sleep so deb could have adult time.

 

If the egg donor took the baby monitor she could have, but I think either the baby was dead at that point or the egg donor used the crib as a babysitter, and didn't give a rat's @ss......POS , both sippy mom and possible sperm donor.....I loathe these two, already lawyered up 2 days after the baby is "missing"

[yuknomenot]

Inquiring mind want to know from Samantha Brando's own lips if she saw or heard baby Lisa on the evening of October 3rd or ... did something bad happen in the hours prior to Jeremy allegedly leaving for word at 5:20 PM?

Was Jeremy's van official search and forensically tested?

Janet

IMO, if you hear anything at all from Samantha Brando's own lips, it will be the words the scumbag lawyers have told her to use.  She is an integral part of the obfuscation and flat out lies that the lawyers and their minions are currently spreading.

Maybe Samantha does have knowledge regarding missing baby Lisa but ... rather than opening lie to protect friends Debra and Jeremy she has chosen not to say anything.

Janet

You could very well be right, but I believe she is "the source" who has given us this most recent timeline.  It was solidified for me when I saw that she was involved with yesterday's lawyers meeting at the Walrond house http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1485140#msg1485140

[Tamikosmom]

This is a great video showing the path of all the witness sightings going thru the neighborhood if anyone is interested.  It really lays it out from Irwin home to dumpster fire to gas station than 4am sighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK91LdOmE40

Thanks fatcatlurker.  A map I can follow.

I am going back and forth in my speculations.  This video left me thinking that maybe ... just maybe Jersey/Tanko played a role?

Janet

[higherhopes]

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980712010#.TrMWy_nchRk.twitter
Lisa Irwin Mystery: What Happened the Night of October 4th
November 03, 2011 04:31 PM EDT
CBS News has released a time line in the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin. This time line is supposed to show the public what investigators believed happened to Lisa and hopes that anyone who may have seen or heard something during the time gaps will come forward. This is a bold step for investigators, who originally wanted to focus on the family. Perhaps their focus is still on the family, despite this new time line.
 ::snipping2::

I just read this article and it said that NOBODY checked on Lisa between the hours of 6:40 PM and 3:45 AM.....Maybe there wasn't any reason to check on her because she wasn't there? Even if the baby was NOT sick, a mother would check on their baby every hour or so especially since she went to bed so early. I would think she would have checked on her even between drinks! I'm thinking she wasn't there to check on.

If your outside you can't hear IF something is wrong with the baby, since she was sick.......
Makes no sense to me....
Did deb over medicate Lisa or give her a bottle filled with booze to make her sleep so deb could have adult time.

 

If the egg donor took the baby monitor she could have, but I think either the baby was dead at that point or the egg donor used the crib as a babysitter, and didn't give a rat's @ss......POS , both sippy mom and possible sperm donor.....I loathe these two, already lawyered up 2 days after the baby is "missing"

I agree.....didnt think I could get any sicker then when I attended "that other" vigil and had to watch those low lifes put on their acts.......but here we are again.......yuk!!

[yuknomenot]

Elle Jay
karen yancey says "KCPD are NOT actively searching for lisa------but-------11/03/11 - 9:48 am - Kansas City Police tweet - "Rumors are false. Police have NOT found a body in Lisa Irwin case. We are still actively searching for the baby"

-----which is it? they are or are NOT actively searching?
2 minutes ago

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1cgmHScPK


This case is all over the place, we can't believe anything other than Baby Lisa is GONE!!!

I think the reason for lack of information and disinformation is because they don't want to tip their hands to these lawyers.  The lawyers are doing everything they can to derail the police investigation so it makes perfect sense to keep as quiet as they can for as long as they can.  It does make it extremely frustrating for us though.

[islandmonkey]

This is a great video showing the path of all the witness sightings going thru the neighborhood if anyone is interested.  It really lays it out from Irwin home to dumpster fire to gas station than 4am sighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK91LdOmE40

Thanks FCL~I was wanting to see this, weird thing is I can not see anyone who took a baby walking around for hours, if I was going to take a baby (obviously hypothetical), I'd snatch the baby and nothing else and get the hell out of the area, who would risk walking for 4 hrs with a kidnapped baby..this case is going to make me an alcoholic LOL

[islandmonkey]

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980712010#.TrMWy_nchRk.twitter
Lisa Irwin Mystery: What Happened the Night of October 4th
November 03, 2011 04:31 PM EDT
CBS News has released a time line in the disappearance of baby Lisa Irwin. This time line is supposed to show the public what investigators believed happened to Lisa and hopes that anyone who may have seen or heard something during the time gaps will come forward. This is a bold step for investigators, who originally wanted to focus on the family. Perhaps their focus is still on the family, despite this new time line.
 ::snipping2::

I just read this article and it said that NOBODY checked on Lisa between the hours of 6:40 PM and 3:45 AM.....Maybe there wasn't any reason to check on her because she wasn't there? Even if the baby was NOT sick, a mother would check on their baby every hour or so especially since she went to bed so early. I would think she would have checked on her even between drinks! I'm thinking she wasn't there to check on.

If your outside you can't hear IF something is wrong with the baby, since she was sick.......
Makes no sense to me....
Did deb over medicate Lisa or give her a bottle filled with booze to make her sleep so deb could have adult time.

 

If the egg donor took the baby monitor she could have, but I think either the baby was dead at that point or the egg donor used the crib as a babysitter, and didn't give a rat's @ss......POS , both sippy mom and possible sperm donor.....I loathe these two, already lawyered up 2 days after the baby is "missing"

I agree.....didnt think I could get any sicker then when I attended "that other" vigil and had to watch those low lifes put on their acts.......but here we are again.......yuk!!

LMAO.....amen, but here we go again sans the hair, clothes and pedofire comment.....I first stated this case reminded me so much of HaLeigh, mom drunk or at least drinking and drugging IMO, dad wuz at werk and came home to a similar mess, but made sure he told LE "I wuz at werk and didn't WITNESS anything".......

[fatcatlurker]

This is a great video showing the path of all the witness sightings going thru the neighborhood if anyone is interested.  It really lays it out from Irwin home to dumpster fire to gas station than 4am sighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK91LdOmE40

Thanks fatcatlurker.  A map I can follow.

I am going back and forth in my speculations.  This video left me thinking that maybe ... just maybe Jersey/Tanko played a role?

Janet

ITA on Tanko and there is no rush on him as he is currently in jail.  FYI on the 4:15 am sighting - it can't be Jeremy because I think he was on the phone with LE or waiting on there arrival at that time.

[Tamikosmom]

Inquiring mind want to know from Samantha Brando's own lips if she saw or heard baby Lisa on the evening of October 3rd or ... did something bad happen in the hours prior to Jeremy allegedly leaving for word at 5:20 PM?

Was Jeremy's van official search and forensically tested?

Janet

IMO, if you hear anything at all from Samantha Brando's own lips, it will be the words the scumbag lawyers have told her to use.  She is an integral part of the obfuscation and flat out lies that the lawyers and their minions are currently spreading.

Maybe Samantha does have knowledge regarding missing baby Lisa but ... rather than opening lie to protect friends Debra and Jeremy she has chosen not to say anything.

Janet

You could very well be right, but I believe she is "the source" who has given us this most recent timeline.  It was solidified for me when I saw that she was involved with yesterday's lawyers meeting at the Walrond house http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1485140#msg1485140

 


Baby Lisa's Parents Meet With New Lawyer
11-Month-Old Will Be Missing 1 Month On Thursday
POSTED: 5:42 pm CDT November 2, 2011
UPDATED: 5:53 pm CDT November 2, 2011

<snipped>

The neighbor, a woman named Samantha, has spent a lot of time with the couple since Lisa disappeared. She was at the home on North Walrond Avenue while Bradley and Irwin met with Picerno on Wednesday.

<snipped>

http://www.kmbc.com/r/29667881/detail.html

fatcatlurker

[fatcatlurker]

This is a great video showing the path of all the witness sightings going thru the neighborhood if anyone is interested.  It really lays it out from Irwin home to dumpster fire to gas station than 4am sighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QK91LdOmE40

Thanks FCL~I was wanting to see this, weird thing is I can not see anyone who took a baby walking around for hours, if I was going to take a baby (obviously hypothetical), I'd snatch the baby and nothing else and get the hell out of the area, who would risk walking for 4 hrs with a kidnapped baby..this case is going to make me an alcoholic LOL

YW.  It's not popular but as I've said before the only one who fits "all" the madness for me is Tanko.  His previous B/E, arson record, served 5yrs in Jersey for Arson and witness tampering I mean literally in/out since 1989 IIRC.  Just rewatching that video and hearing about him and the little dog he was following all over makes me want to hurl.  Glad he's locked up for time being regardless.

However we have no shortage of crazies in this one...

[fatcatlurker]

One thing I will say is; KCPD has sure been working their butts off behind the scenes and keeping everything very guarded about other potential perps in this case besides the family.  It's defiantly not a one track investigation at this point.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it Joe Taco.

[yuknomenot]

Inquiring mind want to know from Samantha Brando's own lips if she saw or heard baby Lisa on the evening of October 3rd or ... did something bad happen in the hours prior to Jeremy allegedly leaving for word at 5:20 PM?

Was Jeremy's van official search and forensically tested?

Janet

IMO, if you hear anything at all from Samantha Brando's own lips, it will be the words the scumbag lawyers have told her to use.  She is an integral part of the obfuscation and flat out lies that the lawyers and their minions are currently spreading.

Maybe Samantha does have knowledge regarding missing baby Lisa but ... rather than opening lie to protect friends Debra and Jeremy she has chosen not to say anything.

Janet

You could very well be right, but I believe she is "the source" who has given us this most recent timeline.  It was solidified for me when I saw that she was involved with yesterday's lawyers meeting at the Walrond house http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1485140#msg1485140

 


Baby Lisa's Parents Meet With New Lawyer
11-Month-Old Will Be Missing 1 Month On Thursday
POSTED: 5:42 pm CDT November 2, 2011
UPDATED: 5:53 pm CDT November 2, 2011

<snipped>

The neighbor, a woman named Samantha, has spent a lot of time with the couple since Lisa disappeared. She was at the home on North Walrond Avenue while Bradley and Irwin met with Picerno on Wednesday.

<snipped>

http://www.kmbc.com/r/29667881/detail.html

fatcatlurker

And once again we are here and there appears to be no family or even family friends who care about a missing or murdered innocent child.

[fatcatlurker]

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
Wont be on @HLNTV tonight due to Murray trial. No major news on #babylisa should have more tmr, new developments, new character emerging4 hours ago

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn
  Edit-needed hyperlink.  MB
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Lots of stuff here.

[Tamikosmom]

And once again we are here and there appears to be no family or even family friends who care about a missing or murdered innocent child.

 

[Tamikosmom]

My prayer is that investigators are working behind the scenes connecting the dots regarding the disappearance of baby Lisa and ... in God's perfect timing the truth will be revealed and justice will prevail.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:25 PM PT

[cartfly]

My prayer is that investigators are working behind the scenes connecting the dots regarding the disappearance of baby Lisa and ... in God's perfect timing the truth will be revealed and justice will prevail.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:25 PM PT

Amen Goodnight Janet

[fatcatlurker]

My prayer is that investigators are working behind the scenes connecting the dots regarding the disappearance of baby Lisa and ... in God's perfect timing the truth will be revealed and justice will prevail.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:25 PM PT

I think they are going to get this one, just a hunch. 
Goodnight!

[Spodie]

Just random thoughts...

Did JI take Lisa's body to work and pass her off to someone on his way home?
Could Samantha have any role? Could she have passed off Lisa on her trip to the Liquor store? Could the brother have taken her when he left?

It just makes no sense that any one would walk around with a baby in a diaper at night. Who would take that risk? A police could drive by at any moment..

I think its possible DB was trying to get drunk so as not to face what had allready happened. I think the front door was left unlocked by a drunken DB. The lights could have been turned on by the boys getting up in the night "a nightmare?" or going to the bathroom.

But I just can not fathom the man with the baby..

[trimmonthelake]

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
Wont be on @HLNTV tonight due to Murray trial. No major news on #babylisa should have more tmr, new developments, new character emerging4 hours ago

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn
  Edit-needed hyperlink.  MB
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Lots of stuff here.

Yes there is.I have been following along.Hope we hear something soon.
jimspellmancnn jim spellman
@
@Amys1867 perhaps character isn't the best word...2 new figures are emerging i guess. I woudn't want to gibe the impression this is a game
3 hours ago
jim spellman
jimspellmancnn jim spellman
@
@Amys1867 yes...2 new charcters added if i can nail a few things down
3 hours ago http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn