Natalee Case Discussion #727 2/8 - 2/10/08

[klaasend]

What am I missing?  The cage is really rather empty tonight.

Just switched to the new thread.  Probably alot still reading previous thread.

[Nut44x4]

Need sleep, night all. JUSTICE4NATALEE!!! 

[Frank]

I've never seen someone who when they tell the truth they lie and when they lie tell the truth.

I'm starting to think the whole of the beach story is a lie, and that there is no daury or even a boat.

Stories, made up ones in this situation are meant to distract, Joran has practiced this story for so long but it's still made up.

The first place the KLPD searched was the vds house. Even if Joran story was true and he told it the first day, he would be out of jail.

The semen that would be found would not be ONLY Joran's.

The only places that have received official resistance is the house and the dump.

The first lie is the one that is the most interesting, regarding hitting her head. Why throw that in?

[martini]

Hi Monkeys, Listen this is not going down the way we would have hoped. It doesn't look like they can get enough evidence to bring Joran in 4 murder. They will not bring him in for a lesser charge. I can only hope our higher power takes over now. Enough is enough. This is not just about American's or the Holloway family. This is about Human Rights! The right to Justice. The right to Freedom of speech and the press. This has become something more then anyone could have speculated. It has taken on a life of it's own. Many have their political opinions, this is not about politics. This is about Human life and Justice. I will get off my soap box now. Thank you for listening, Martini

[caesu]

The Arubans are not going to convict Joran but he and Aruba will not get away with this.

YR - I agree and said yesterday, even if he is never tried and convicted Joran's life is over.

Paul vdS life is over too.
odd about that prison and hospital commitee he just got ditched from

if he won't go to prison he will end op in hospital

[Puzzler]

So Paulus is on the hospital committee and...

The PRISON COMMITTEE....what a surprise...guess he knows "the boy" that provides the phones....

 

Yes, the prison committe is interesting since Joran spilled the beans about dear old dad providing him with a cell phone while in jail.
Surely, putting 2 and 2 together, Mos and/or somebody talked with all the "boys" that Paulus would have had connection with that could pass the phone off to Joran.  Could it be that it's part of the reason Paulus is getting kicked off the committee?

[Sue]

Joran cant say he was lying cause he was stoned
my parents were strict
I would come home totally wasted trying to hide it and
when they would ask me the first thing I did was confess
YES IM blasted then pass out

[anidac]

My gut tells me that Aruba is not going to charge him no matter what.  They could catch him red-handed raping, murdering, and disposing of the next young lady on film, in a stadium loaded with every resident on the island of Aruba, and still find reasons to turn their back.

This is just plain stupid.

[klaasend]

If I remember correctly, the DO get Nancy Grace in Aruba but don't get Greta....right?

[Dihannah1]

Joran cant say he was lying cause he was stoned
my parents were strict
I would come home totally wasted trying to hide it and
when they would ask me the first thing I did was confess
YES IM blasted then pass out

I've had my share of stoners around my life in the past and know they are more relaxed and open than otherwise would be.   Gawd!  What a lame excuse!   

[Yellow Ribbon]

Hi Monkeys, Listen this is not going down the way we would have hoped. It doesn't look like they can get enough evidence to bring Joran in 4 murder. They will not bring him in for a lesser charge. I can only hope our higher power takes over now. Enough is enough. This is not just about American's or the Holloway family. This is about Human Rights! The right to Justice. The right to Freedom of speech and the press. This has become something more then anyone could have speculated. It has taken on a life of it's own. Many have their political opinions, this is not about politics. This is about Human life and Justice. I will get off my soap box now. Thank you for listening, Martini

The Right to Boycott Aruba!!!

[atlgirl]

Joran cant say he was lying cause he was stoned
my parents were strict
I would come home totally wasted trying to hide it and
when they would ask me the first thing I did was confess
YES IM blasted then pass out

Yep.  Pot doesn't make you crazy, out of control, or so messed up you don't remember what you said or did. 
It DOES make you chatty chatty and a little less inhibited and may make you speak before you think.

In a country where pot is legal, I would assume many in power have smoked it just like they drink wine.  Which means, they know this and they know this excuse is BS!!

[San]

Paulus has his excuse to move back to Holland now.  He will say they stripped my of everything and I can earn a living because of what they think my son did, blah, blah, blah.

Aruba is FOS.

[Dihannah1]

HUH?!  Greta back on Aruba discusssion after commercial!  Something about TES!?  Anybody else hear that?  She also mentioned something about it and her blog.....

Did anybody else catch that????

[San]

If I remember correctly, the DO get Nancy Grace in Aruba but don't get Greta....right?

Yes Klaas.  Remember they hated Nancy Grace.

[anidac]

Joran cant say he was lying cause he was stoned
my parents were strict
I would come home totally wasted trying to hide it and
when they would ask me the first thing I did was confess
YES IM blasted then pass out

Yep.  Pot doesn't make you crazy, out of control, or so messed up you don't remember what you said or did. 
It DOES make you chatty chatty and a little less inhibited and may make you speak before you think.

In a country where pot is legal, I would assume many in power have smoked it just like they drink wine.  Which means, they know this and they know this excuse is BS!!

Remember, it isn't the Netherlands that refuses to charge and convict him.  It is ARUBA!!!

[Dihannah1]

Hi Monkeys, Listen this is not going down the way we would have hoped. It doesn't look like they can get enough evidence to bring Joran in 4 murder. They will not bring him in for a lesser charge. I can only hope our higher power takes over now. Enough is enough. This is not just about American's or the Holloway family. This is about Human Rights! The right to Justice. The right to Freedom of speech and the press. This has become something more then anyone could have speculated. It has taken on a life of it's own. Many have their political opinions, this is not about politics. This is about Human life and Justice. I will get off my soap box now. Thank you for listening, Martini

The Right to Boycott Aruba!!!

AND the right to the average Aruban to have there livelyhood back!  They need to be outraged!

[Dihannah1]

Gretawire  http://gretawire.foxnews.com/    (Like this will solve the case)

WHICH PROSECUTOR???? VOTE!!! (and check out what others are saying!!!)
by Greta Van Susteren


After 2 1/2 years, and no justice, and no definitive answers, you may think it is time to bring in another new prosecutor to investigate the disappearance (and most probable death) of Natalee Holloway. Which FAMOUS prosecutor, of the following, would you like to see interrogate Joran van der Sloot? (vote in the poll below…and THEN post your reason in the comments for your choice…)

[Yellow Ribbon]

It's taken a while but we have witnessed something remarkable in this case: Private sector justice. This is not vigilantism but private citizens acting within the law to overcome corrupt and incompetent law enforcement.

From the first day when Beth and Jug's friends flew them to Aruba, to this week when a reporter from the Netherlands broke the case, the perpetrators have been constantly pursued. All along the media and sites like this have kept up the pressure and provided support for the family.

[Observer]

Paulus has his excuse to move back to Holland now.  He will say they stripped my of everything and I can earn a living because of what they think my son did, blah, blah, blah.

Aruba is FOS.

For the first time ever it appears things are finally not going the Van Der Sloot's way. Seems like they were always one step ahead of everyone. He will always live by his motto "no body no case" and someday may even still try to sue the courts for damages. Let's all pray to god that Natalee is found in these next series of dives. If she is..They are absolutely cooked. There will be no denying justice for Natalee if she is found,especially with a injury to her skull.