Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #2 6/30/10 - 7/5/10

[sharon]

So sad   And so much conflicting information


So -- we are positive that the school did NOT call Terri (or Kaine) about Kyron's absence??


If Terri is involved, it does NOT make sense that Terri would know -- in advance -- that she would not be called by the school.

Unless the person who makes the calls was 'in cahoots' with Terri.

Which is just too surreal to imagine?

[Blonde]

has anyone seen the name Michael pop up... I know about the "family friend" Michael Cook... but I am looking for a Michael somehow connected to Terri. 

If anyone spots a Michael in any researching, please let me know. 

Michael Charles McCall - facebook friend of Kaine and Terri - is a chiropractor in Portland
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1029981818&v=wall&ref=sgm

Michael Roten - fb friend
http://www.facebook.com/#!/mroten?ref=sgm

Michael J Mooney Jr. - fb friend
http://www.facebook.com/#!/mjmooney1?ref=sgm

[theboyzmom]

Asking everyone who wishes to answer. Lets say there was a witness which saw Terri leave the building (and this person was older then and we no longer suspected Terri, who would be on the top of your list and how would they have gotten Kyron out of the building.

I would be concerned about the people in the school. I am bothered by Terri but just as much by the school. I understand not missing him the first hour or so of school - especially if the teacher thought he was at an appointment. I am one of the strange ones that does not think an automated call system is mandatory for schools (could be because I belong to a small school district or that I am trusting).  I think if Terri did not do this then the school must be checked carefully - all the cubbies, stove/boiler ect. I keep picturing the young lady that was stuffed in the wall at the lab. Kyron is small and easy to hide.

I must say too, that I am not buying into the "alternative lifestyle" theory as being the cause of the Kyron's disappearance. The parents (any or all including steps) may have had an "interesting" sex life but I can not see one of the group of partners coming after a child. Remember, all of this stuff is voluntary and most of the people are normal people outside of their sex practices - chances are that you could never spot them in a crowd.

But that is just my opinion!

[Blonde]

Don't know if this has been posted yet.. it's a long message from Mr. Oakes:

   
Please be patient regarding our search efforts.

 Friday, July 02, 2010

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=127939120&blogId=536636468

Wow Mr Oakes is a wonderful human being offering his services like this especially when the family won't give him anything to work with. I hope he can find the source of the scent with that camera.  Sounds dangerous.  Hopefully he can find something that way so divers don't have to be put at risk.  Thanks for getting him involved and for keeping us informed Wyks.
Hopefully Kyron will be found soon.

<snip>

We did the Kyron Horman search by boat today around Sauvie Island.





All three search dogs alerted on a DEAD HUMAN Scent in the water at the marina.





In NO WAY am I saying this is Kyron.





Since the family refuses to give us Kyron's scent article, all we can do is use psuedo scent which smells to the dog of decomposition.





Remember search dogs don’t know how to lie. And; we had two witnesses to our searches today.





This is a dead Human but it could be a suicide, accidental drowning, homicide, or someone's rotting body other then who we're looking for.



If I had Kyron's scent our search dogs are trained to discriminate and ignore all other scents. Then I would be able to say either yes this is him or NOPE it's not him.



Now do we think someone took him and dumped him under a boat deck? No not at all.



My feeling is someone had an accomplise and two things could have happened.





1). A bad evil person took him and passed him off to someone else how did


him harm. Or,


2). A bad evil person took him and did harm to him on their own. Or,


3). A bad evil person took him, passed him off to someone else and that


person took him to Arizona or Mexico and sold him to someone.


So here’s what I’m saying. We do have three qualified (we don’t call them certified as in Oregon their certification doesn’t mean crap to us).


The oregon search dog instructor certifier has discredited himself over and over again to where he holds absolutely no credibility to anyone who works a search dog.

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51216

[Blonde]

[seahorse]

Good morning Monkey's,



How does a one join the "cadoodling" member club?

Do you summit an application?

Do you scan your body parts? LOL

The only way to find out about this club is try to join. LOL

[Blonde]

Motion For Immediate Hearing To Unseal Court Records
http://www.koinlocal6.com/media/lib/107/6/5/a/65ac0fce-47be-45ac-a655-5e8a74f78f1e/Motion_for_immediate_hearing.pdf

[theboyzmom]

Good morning Monkey's,



How does a one join the "cadoodling" member club?

Do you summit an application?

Do you scan your body parts? LOL

The only way to find out about this club is try to join. LOL

Some are referral only, some are show up and pay the fee. Many of the clubs are just like any dance club - if you show up and pay the cover charge (and normally sign a waiver) you can go in. It is really not such a secret group if it is your run of the mill swingers or S&M club - they are welcoming to new people - most are welcoming even if you just want to watch and explore without participating. I am sure there are some that are secret - but I think those are a special breed that is into some very strange stuff. I do not remember the name of the one mentioned in this case, but they probably have a web site that sets forth the rules for entry.

Now that you all think I am some sicko - not really, never been to one but I have friends that do go and enjoy them with their partners.

[no rose colored glasses]

Asking everyone who wishes to answer. Lets say there was a witness which saw Terri leave the building (and this person was older then and we no longer suspected Terri, who would be on the top of your list and how would they have gotten Kyron out of the building.

I would be concerned about the people in the school. I am bothered by Terri but just as much by the school. I understand not missing him the first hour or so of school - especially if the teacher thought he was at an appointment. I am one of the strange ones that does not think an automated call system is mandatory for schools (could be because I belong to a small school district or that I am trusting).  I think if Terri did not do this then the school must be checked carefully - all the cubbies, stove/boiler ect. I keep picturing the young lady that was stuffed in the wall at the lab. Kyron is small and easy to hide.

I must say too, that I am not buying into the "alternative lifestyle" theory as being the cause of the Kyron's disappearance. The parents (any or all including steps) may have had an "interesting" sex life but I can not see one of the group of partners coming after a child. Remember, all of this stuff is voluntary and most of the people are normal people outside of their sex practices - chances are that you could never spot them in a crowd.

But that is just my opinion!

I think a family member, I can only assume this because the police don't seem to be warning the parents in the community. I am not buying the alternative lifestyle either, I have tried and tried, and I can't get the pieces to fit.

[Blonde]

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband.

IMAGE: James Pitkin

BY JAMES PITKIN | jpitkin at wweek dot com

[June 30th, 2010]

ROSEBURG — Ron Tarver hesitates when asked whether his ex-wife, Terri Moulton Horman, could be behind the disappearance of her stepson, Kyron Horman.

Tarver says she cheated on him during their four-year marriage. Then she left him in 1995. But responsible for what happened to a 7-year-old boy?

“I don’t know [what she’s capable of doing],” says Tarver, standing with his current wife, Angela Rockwood, outside their house in this Southern Oregon town of 21,000 people.

“We’re not blind. Obviously they’re zeroing in on Terri,” Tarver says. “I just have a hard time believing anyone would be capable of doing that.”

Tarver does know one thing for sure: Cops were homing in on Terri Moulton Horman within days of Kyron’s disappearance. As first reported June 17 on wweek.com, law-enforcement sources say the investigation has increasingly focused on Kyron’s stepmom.

In the latest developments, Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, filed for divorce from Terri Moulton Horman on June 28, citing irreconcilable differences. He also took out a restraining order against her under the Family Abuse Prevention Act. A judge has sealed that request.

Tarver, who is 41, has followed the story from 200 miles away in Roseburg, tied to the unfolding drama by his marriage to Terri Moulton 19 years ago.

They were married in 1991, when Tarver was 22 and she was 21.

But the marriage fizzled, Tarver says, after Moulton began cheating on him and the restaurant they owned together failed.

Moulton kept custody of James, and Tarver saw the boy regularly on weekends—but recently, James left his mother’s home to live with his maternal grandparents in Roseburg.

Until then James had been living with his mother and Kaine Horman off Cornelius Pass Road in unincorporated Multnomah County. Also sharing the house was Kyron, who is Kaine Horman’s son from his first marriage, and Kiara, the couple’s 18-month-old daughter.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thank-you Blonde.  The only lifestyle that I can come up with that would take a seven year old boy is a child porn ring. Is that what people are maybe thinking, that Kyron's parents were involved in something like that? If someone could please explain what other kind of lifestyle I would appreciate it. Can't seem to come up with anything else that would take a child.

[Blonde]

[Blonde]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Missing-Kyron-Horman/125336750831264

[newfie]

Good Morning all and Happy 4th of July weekend!  The interview with LE was pretty lengthy but I did get a few things from it.
1. They are saying it is an isolated case because it is not a serial related incident.
2. They did not dispel any of the rumors IE; Teri's cell pings,or Kaine at the bus stop etc.
3. They are going to look at tightening up  the school's security and the way they worked the case with their post discovery investigation (which is standard practice).
4. Tips are still coming in and they have spent a lot of money trying to find Kyron. Children are priceless in my view and I say I am glad that this money has been spent searching for Kyron.

I have to say this must be frustrating to all parties.

 Where is Kyron? With all of this energy and time yet he has not been found. I feel like we are running in circles likes a dog chasing his tail bringing up the same already known information over and over. We have nothing new. Just the same timeframe of 8:15 TO 8:45, AND SPECULATIONS FROM UNNAMED SOURCES.
 I am hopeful for Mr. Oaks and wish a family member would help him.  Great theories on this board, Dennie... yikes! Very good theory but scary! I still wonder why Terri has no one to substantiate where she was after 8:45 a.m. until 1:00p.m.  I am not saying she is guilty but again how would having someone say I saw Terri at the gym at 10:00, or I saw Terri at the store at 9:30, or the babysitter saying she picked her daughter up at 12:00 and she looked fine impede the investigation? If something happened that a.m. and Terri was involved it would show in her demeanor. Maybe now that she has a lawyer these things can come out.

[cw618]

hopeinVA said eyeglasses were sent to hormans
i read hopeinVA comments,IMO hype, what hinVA
said could be gleaned from the web. the eyeglasses?
that sounds like a kidnapping gone bad, does hinVA
know this for sure doubtful, do LE keep  kidnapping
or suspected kidnappings under wraps

forgot the posters name so sorry had it a second ago, got crs
this morn,anyway thanks for info on adoption

[seahorse]

Good morning Monkey's,



How does a one join the "cadoodling" member club?

Do you summit an application?

Do you scan your body parts? LOL

The only way to find out about this club is try to join. LOL

Some are referral only, some are show up and pay the fee. Many of the clubs are just like any dance club - if you show up and pay the cover charge (and normally sign a waiver) you can go in. It is really not such a secret group if it is your run of the mill swingers or S&M club - they are welcoming to new people - most are welcoming even if you just want to watch and explore without participating. I am sure there are some that are secret - but I think those are a special breed that is into some very strange stuff. I do not remember the name of the one mentioned in this case, but they probably have a web site that sets forth the rules for entry.

Now that you all think I am some sicko - not really, never been to one but I have friends that do go and enjoy them with their partners.

Hi Boyzman,

Thank-you for the education.  Different strokes for different folks!  I will try to find the club's name, (a few pages back). I would need to visit the Library in order to log-on to S-site. The Library is closed until Tuesday, this will give enough time to research
for a members page.  The Librarians will be looking a me sideways.

[Tamikosmom]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html

Kyron Horman investigation: Transcript of interview with Sheriff Dan Staton
Published: Friday, July 02, 2010

Long interview, still reading it.

Thanks Brandi

I believe the The Oregonian is doing an excellent in regards to the coverage of the Kyron Horman case.  I do not comprehend Kaine's undermining of this publication.

The following segment of the interview affirms that the "reliable unnamed sources" which media outlets have been quoting regarding cell records revealing that Terri was not being truthful in regards to her whereabouts and activities on the day that Kyron went missing are indeed "reliable".  IMO

Janet

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Kyron Horman investigation: Transcript of interview with Sheriff Dan Staton
Published: Friday, July 02, 2010, 4:03 PM     Updated: Saturday, July 03, 2010, 12:03 AM

Jung: "There are a couple of other things that we had heard. One: Sauvie Island, that there were cell phone pings from Terri Horman's cell phone that pinpointed her on being Sauvie Island the day of Kyron's disappearance. Can you talk about that at all?"

Staton: "That portion of the investigation I can't talk about. I'm sorry."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html
 

[Tamikosmom]

Thank-you Blonde.  The only lifestyle that I can come up with that would take a seven year old boy is a child porn ring. Is that what people are maybe thinking, that Kyron's parents were involved in something like that? If someone could please explain what other kind of lifestyle I would appreciate it. Can't seem to come up with anything else that would take a child.

Hi no rose.

Are you up to a brisk walk to Tim Hortons for a coffee/tea and an "old fashion plain" for dunking?

The alternate lifestyle of the Hormans?  Is this speculation?

Janet

[ozziesmom]

Good Morning Monkeys! Thanks for all the links...interesting thoughts out there...Hopefully Harry Oats will turn something up in his search and find Kyron (prayng for an alive Kyron)...

In reference to the stepmom thing, most blended families adjust fine, however, sometimes there can be some resentments towards children (even with bio children) especially if children are favored or there is some difficuties in the parents relationship (IE Kanie and Terri) in this case it looks like Terri took care of Kyron and Kaine wasn't exactly "getting along with" Terri's older son....Terri could have resented that.....it may have built up over time....let's say if Terri thought Kaine treated Kyron better than James or thier baby..........just a thought.....
As far as the school, there's a big problem there...once the teacher saw he wasn't in his seat, and his things were on his desk or in the closet (not sure where they were) this should have been a red flag! How does a teacher continue teaching while this little boy in not in his seat???? She didn't even check to see if he left school with Terri or if he did go get a drink of water or the bathroom? He could have fallen down and been hurt for all she knew...I am so upset that this beautiful little boy went missing and NO ONE noticed or cared enough to investigate where he was at the time......7 hours is a long time for this little boy to go unnoticed....

Either way, Kyron is still missing and he needs to be found

[seahorse]

Google Jeremy's Club Sesso and it is educational.  I just wonder if SM and Poop head have videos out of
theirselves?  This idea of mine would be the logical answer why he would not want the newsy papers to cover him
or uncover him.