Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10

[A's Fever]

Night, Anna

[cubbeegirl]

Some of the Refugees are speculating it was hotel staff. . . they are still defending the moron

LOL...
That's why the hotel staff hightailed it out of there....urine singlehandaly brought them back and was on his way to immediately alert the Thailand police......

Hence the haircut and bad dye job....same color scott peterson went for....

[TURBOTHINK]

Quick O/T News -

Cops May Have Found Body of Drew Peterson's Wife

Originally posted 22 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

www.tmz.com

WOW!Looks like another dog will have his day.....justice is sweet!

Oh my the MURDERING S*Bs are falling like flies !! JUSTICE IS SWEET ..........

[carpe noctem]

Thanks to all who have posted links, articles, updates.

Northern Rose, you have been a real trooper all day.

All of it is greatly appreciated.  I'm too drained by this to look for much.

And now those defending this latest murder are just making me physically ill. 

So will call it a night and try to sleep.

Don't forget Greta's special tomorrow and Geraldo covering it as well.

G'night Anna!

I will watch the special... I will have to postpone shoving bamboo shoots under my nails.

[akmom]

Quick O/T News -

Cops May Have Found Body of Drew Peterson's Wife

Originally posted 22 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

www.tmz.com

OMG , this would be too good to be true!!!!  Is there some kind of crazy alignment of the stars??  Would it be too much to ask for Haleigh's whereabouts and Morgan's killer, etc,etc,etc......

[spooky112483]

Bernie Grimm said when you make video tape cases they rip the guy right there in the room.  He said they let the guy get out of the country.

Jim Hammer is hoping that they were trying to get more information.  He is hoping the FBI didn't drop the ball.

Ted Williams is horrified and the FBI dropped the ball.

Ted and Jim Hammer are disagreeing.  Ted said get him talking in the United States.

Bernie said the jury is out on the FBI.  Greta seems to think it's the FBI's fault.

They could have indicted him here in the U.S. and extradite him from Aruba.

You are doing great!  I thought our FBI had no authority or jurisdiction on Aruba.

Oh you know Magnolia they changed the law on May 10th.  Remember what Arlene Ellis (horseface) shipper said.  You don't understand our laws.

I still say that Aruban authorities alerted Joran that he had been taped and told him to beat feet off
the island.  They didn't want all of this brought back to light on their piece of property.

Did I hear correctly that they gave him $10,000 cash and wired another $15,000 thousand for a total of $25,000 down payment on the information?

That is what I heard.....
$10K cash and $15K wired.....

has anyone thought about what if JQK was in aruba to meet with joran and deliver the 10k cash? and JQK is the one who video taped him?

[billb's daughter]

Investigators also found a baseball bat in the room, two law enforcement sources -- who said it was the murder weapon -- told HLN's "Nancy Grace."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T3

Hi Keepthefaith...
Mark Furman was on Greta and didn't mention a bat....latest reports have stated that Stephany's injuries were consistent with her head being violently thrown against the bed post....
I missed this last night.....Klaas is right...I'm not in any way FBI WKB....just billb.....

[cecilita]

Investigators also found a baseball bat in the room, two law enforcement sources -- who said it was the murder weapon -- told HLN's "Nancy Grace."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T3

Hi Keepthefaith...
Mark Furman was on Greta and didn't mention a bat....latest reports have stated that Stephany's injuries were consistent with her head being violently thrown against the bed post....
I missed this last night.....Klaas is right...I'm not in any way FBI WKB....just billb.....

did he traveled with his bat? it is very difficult to find bats in peru.

[Northern Rose]

Saturday, June 5, 2010 | 00:06 hrs

Van der Sloot arrived in Lima to answer for crime Stephany
Youth charged with two murders and extortion is transported under tight security and will be placed in the hands of justice for their respective process, confirmed the owner of the PCM.

The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is accused of murdering a young Peruvian Stephany Flores and linked to the disappearance of an American in Aruba in 2005 will arrive in Lima in the early hours of Saturday, RPP reported.


This was confirmed, the cabinet chief, Javier Velásquez Quesquén, who noted also that the citizens Netherlands is moved by road guarded by the Police and explained that could not be used to move aircraft from Tacna to Lima, as these are used to carry persons who participate in the fortieth General Assembly of the Organization of American States, to be held in the capital.


The Dutchman, 22, was delivered by Chilean police their peers Peruvian border post Concordia, 1,350 km south of Lima, said Col. Manuel Malaver, head of Interpol in Peru.


In that position he was transferred to the city of Tacna for review by physicians.


Later, amid tight security, police convoy, was transported to Arequipa (1,030 km south of Lima) en route to Lima, arriving on Saturday.


Once in Lima will define their legal status, according to police.


A judge will determine if arrested and sent to jail while the process or, instead, be granted parole.


The young Dutchman was captured on Thursday in Chile, where he arrived from Peru on Monday, "when traveling in a taxi between the coastal city of Viña del Mar and Santiago.


The same night he decided his expulsion and on Friday traveled to Peru in a Cessna plane in police custody for three police officers.


The laws provide for sentences of up to 25 years imprisonment for those convicted of murder, noted the chairman of the Judiciary, Javier Villa Stein, to review this case of huge media hype.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-05-van-der-sloot-llega-a-lima-para-responder-por-crimen-de-stephany-noticia_270086.html

[carpe noctem]

Dilma Arends Geerman
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1133368&id=1133152321&ref=mf#!/dilma.a.geerman?ref=sgm



One of Dilma's friends is:

Krissy Capriles
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1133368&id=1133152321&ref=mf#!/profile.php?id=1133152321&v=info

One of Krissy's friends is

JEAN AKERS
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1133368&id=1133152321&ref=mf#!/jeanakers?ref=sgm


Information

Networks:
    Department of State
Current City:
    Washington, DC
Hometown:
    Oklahoma City, OK

Interesting...Thanks Klaas!

These people are terminally ill.

They soak in their own ignorance, like filthy sponges.

Nobody wants to hear "their story" anymore. DEAL WITH IT.

[Keepthefaith]

Investigators also found a baseball bat in the room, two law enforcement sources -- who said it was the murder weapon -- told HLN's "Nancy Grace."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T3

Hi Keepthefaith...
Mark Furman was on Greta and didn't mention a bat....latest reports have stated that Stephany's injuries were consistent with her head being violently thrown against the bed post....
I missed this last night.....Klaas is right...I'm not in any way FBI WKB....just billb.....

Good evening BillB!It's OK.The irony of it all!

[Northern Rose]

The Panamanian singer Roberto Blades, salsa singer Ruben Blades brother, recognized Joran van der Sloot, the alleged murderer of the young Stephanny Flores in the Atlantic City casino de Miraflores, hours before the occurrence of the crime he is charged to the citizen Dutchman 23.

Blades told the TV news Confirmed Peru citizen who recognized the Dutchman because he knew the murder case of American Natalee Holloway case in Aruba and which is also involved Van der Sloot. She even gave notice of its presence in the casino but no one listened.

"I knew the reputation of this man over the death of the girl in Aruba, and I told the security that this was a murderer, but they continued as if nothing," said sonero who also said he heard about the Dutchman vulgar way about "looking girls." "It was with a friend but returned after two hours and only," he said.

Days later, when the singer returned to the referring casino, a hotel employee told him the same Van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of the young Stephany Flores and had fled to Chile. "I told you so" he replied.

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/roberto-blades-alerto-de-presencia-de-joran-van-der-sloot-en-casino-atlantic-city-de-miraflores/

[Keepthefaith]

Investigators also found a baseball bat in the room, two law enforcement sources -- who said it was the murder weapon -- told HLN's "Nancy Grace."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T3

Hi Keepthefaith...
Mark Furman was on Greta and didn't mention a bat....latest reports have stated that Stephany's injuries were consistent with her head being violently thrown against the bed post....
I missed this last night.....Klaas is right...I'm not in any way FBI WKB....just billb.....

did he traveled with his bat? it is very difficult to find bats in peru.

I don't know Cecilita.

[cecilita]

The Panamanian singer Roberto Blades, salsa singer Ruben Blades brother, recognized Joran van der Sloot, the alleged murderer of the young Stephanny Flores in the Atlantic City casino de Miraflores, hours before the occurrence of the crime he is charged to the citizen Dutchman 23.

Blades told the TV news Confirmed Peru citizen who recognized the Dutchman because he knew the murder case of American Natalee Holloway case in Aruba and which is also involved Van der Sloot. She even gave notice of its presence in the casino but no one listened.

"I knew the reputation of this man over the death of the girl in Aruba, and I told the security that this was a murderer, but they continued as if nothing," said sonero who also said he heard about the Dutchman vulgar way about "looking girls." "It was with a friend but returned after two hours and only," he said.

Days later, when the singer returned to the referring casino, a hotel employee told him the same Van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of the young Stephany Flores and had fled to Chile. "I told you so" he replied.

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/roberto-blades-alerto-de-presencia-de-joran-van-der-sloot-en-casino-atlantic-city-de-miraflores/

I heard his interview and he also said that Van der sloot told his friend to look for girls using nasty words

[Puzzler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gFDZlRoBI

Cecilita...if you're still here...would you please look at this video (sorry it it's been previously posted) and let us know what the tall silver item is that's circled in red, who that pretty woman is they're filiming outside and the bed that's filmed...is it "the" bed or one like to to show us what it looks like.

Thank you so much.

[carpe noctem]

The Panamanian singer Roberto Blades, salsa singer Ruben Blades brother, recognized Joran van der Sloot, the alleged murderer of the young Stephanny Flores in the Atlantic City casino de Miraflores, hours before the occurrence of the crime he is charged to the citizen Dutchman 23.

Blades told the TV news Confirmed Peru citizen who recognized the Dutchman because he knew the murder case of American Natalee Holloway case in Aruba and which is also involved Van der Sloot. She even gave notice of its presence in the casino but no one listened.

"I knew the reputation of this man over the death of the girl in Aruba, and I told the security that this was a murderer, but they continued as if nothing," said sonero who also said he heard about the Dutchman vulgar way about "looking girls." "It was with a friend but returned after two hours and only," he said.

Days later, when the singer returned to the referring casino, a hotel employee told him the same Van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of the young Stephany Flores and had fled to Chile. "I told you so" he replied.

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/roberto-blades-alerto-de-presencia-de-joran-van-der-sloot-en-casino-atlantic-city-de-miraflores/

Nobody ever listens...

[Northern Rose]

Were preventable. The singer told Panamanian Roberto Blades alerted the Atlantic City casino security in the poker table where he played early on Saturday (May 29) was the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, the alleged murderer of the young Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez , daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores.

"I can not believe the things that are happening because the early hours of Saturday (May 29) I arrived in Lima and went to the casino, I informed the security personnel who had committed such a murder in Aruba and on Monday I went back to the casino say they killed another girl. It is not possible, "Roberto told that June 19 will perform at the salsoteca" Kimbara "de La Victoria.


How do you know the Netherlands?
I was playing and he sat next to me. I kept seeing his face made me familiar, but was not sure if he was the murderer because I know the case of young Natalee Holloway because I lived in America for many years. At all times I heard that girls want to get up and that surprised me, so I left the table and asked who he was, simply could not believe that a murderer as he was so quiet.

What communicate their presence to the security people?
Of course, when I heard about is where I took it out and told the manager to manage the game that the boy was a murderer. I pointed out. Even some girls who also work at the casino I heard. He was a little longer and went, but returned two hours later saying it was up to any girl. Even told me to go out together to 'raise' girls.

When you find out who allegedly killed the daughter of Ricardo Flores?
On Monday I returned, I went to the casino and the guy who warned him he said: 'It was true what you said, the boy killed a girl' and I replied: 'Sure, he killed a girl, but without understanding that there another victim. " I could not believe it because I bother to notice who it was that boy.

Stephany Did you know?
Of view, sometimes seen in the games, but at that time was not on the table.

"After these statements you can call to testify?
Of course, because the cameras have recorded the casino when he spoke with him, but to be involved because of the civic responsibility of being aware and not take notice, but the fact is that communicated, but they just ignored me. If I want to investigate, normal.

"Joran (Netherlands) was always alone?
No, I was with some friends, including one with long hair. That's what going to see in the video. I know of Aruba and when it happened the boy was with several friends, so there arrested three of them and here too the same pattern. He and some friends trying to raise girls. I only hope to touch him his due.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-04/ontrfiesta1093027.html

[billb's daughter]

Bernie Grimm said when you make video tape cases they rip the guy right there in the room.  He said they let the guy get out of the country.

Jim Hammer is hoping that they were trying to get more information.  He is hoping the FBI didn't drop the ball.

Ted Williams is horrified and the FBI dropped the ball.

Ted and Jim Hammer are disagreeing.  Ted said get him talking in the United States.

Bernie said the jury is out on the FBI.  Greta seems to think it's the FBI's fault.

They could have indicted him here in the U.S. and extradite him from Aruba.

You are doing great!  I thought our FBI had no authority or jurisdiction on Aruba.

Oh you know Magnolia they changed the law on May 10th.  Remember what Arlene Ellis (horseface) shipper said.  You don't understand our laws.

I still say that Aruban authorities alerted Joran that he had been taped and told him to beat feet off
the island.  They didn't want all of this brought back to light on their piece of property.

Did I hear correctly that they gave him $10,000 cash and wired another $15,000 thousand for a total of $25,000 down payment on the information?

That is what I heard.....
$10K cash and $15K wired.....

has anyone thought about what if JQK was in aruba to meet with joran and deliver the 10k cash? and JQK is the one who video taped him?

I think JQK may have been there to deliver the $10K...but it was probably delivered by the FBI undercover agent WKB. JQK was certainly there to take care of legalities with ALE/OM.
Sounds to me that the FBI set up a sting to get the goods on urine...JQK was there to get aruba OM cooperation (which I am sure was not welcomed-but current events forced them to appear as if they are cooperating with JQK/FBI).
FWIW...I don't appreciate (I'm pissed) that greta wants to raise the issue that FBI is somehow responsible for Stephany's murder...that's just not appropriate at this time....getting urine for murdering Stephany and hopefully getting closure for Natalee's family is what is important now.....
Stephany's family gets that.....greta just shows she will do anything for ratings....monkey no no...

[spooky112483]

I love the way the local news calls him "the monster" and "the alien"!

anna i call him the monster the peruvians call him....well they talk a lot about his stay in jail...

lol awesome!
we really aren't in aruba anymore are we? thank God. Does this feel like june 5 2005 to anyone else? i had so much optimism that week (week I say because it sure didnt last long). this time is gonna be so much different.

[cecilita]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gFDZlRoBI

Cecilita...if you're still here...would you please look at this video (sorry it it's been previously posted) and let us know what the tall silver item is that's circled in red, who that pretty woman is they're filiming outside and the bed that's filmed...is it "the" bed or one like to to show us what it looks like.

Thank you so much.

they sais that it is a door and behind the door is his companion....i believe is Stephany hidding behind the door