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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 26, 2013 Tweets
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#JodiArias domestic violence expert describing obsessive controlling behavior... sounds more like what JODI was doing rather than TRAVIS...
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Alyce LaViolette's tyle of story telling & anecdotal evidence appears to be resonating with jurors. Jurors are focused & engaged. #JodiArias
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Defense expert Alyce LaViolette is back on the stand describing different kinds of abuse. #JodiArias
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
I agree mostly but Dr Samuels is not the defense team and the defense team is not Jodi Arias. Jodi was the one telling lies and she's the one who murdered an innocent man not the people representing her as required by our constitution.
Dr Samuels did mark no when the questionnaire asked if Jodi was having trouble sleeping. The defense showed, and the portion of the tape Juan Martinez didn't play would also have shown, that Jodi was prescribed lorazepam as a sleep aid, proving that she was in fact having trouble sleeping. The doctor marked 'no' on the test because as a result of the prescription she was no longer having trouble sleeping.
Juan lied, made accusations against the doctor which were prejudicial and could not be proven, and he uses bullying tactics, something a previously or currently abused juror would find horrifying.
It doesn't make Jodi or her defense right but Juan has a higher standard in trying to prove Jodi deserves death and he needs to chill the eff out IMO and let the facts and evidence stand without all the dramatics.
Lorazepam is not only used for sleep by the way. Its used for anxiety more often actually. The contradiction was there. I heard it. Jodi didnt come up with this story all on her own. Her defense team helped her play this angle. I dont hold juan to a higher standard. Why should i? Defense attorneys use slimey tactics every day & 9 times out of 10, the defendant is guilty & they know it. Our constitutional rights say we are entitled to defense, not entitled to lie, slander & cheat to win. I hope juan doesnt chill the eff out & continues to expose these paid liars for what they are. This crazy biatch isnt going to get the verdict she deserves anyway
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Quote from: kcrn on March 26, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
I agree mostly but Dr Samuels is not the defense team and the defense team is not Jodi Arias. Jodi was the one telling lies and she's the one who murdered an innocent man not the people representing her as required by our constitution.
Dr Samuels did mark no when the questionnaire asked if Jodi was having trouble sleeping. The defense showed, and the portion of the tape Juan Martinez didn't play would also have shown, that Jodi was prescribed lorazepam as a sleep aid, proving that she was in fact having trouble sleeping. The doctor marked 'no' on the test because as a result of the prescription she was no longer having trouble sleeping.
Juan lied, made accusations against the doctor which were prejudicial and could not be proven, and he uses bullying tactics, something a previously or currently abused juror would find horrifying.
It doesn't make Jodi or her defense right but Juan has a higher standard in trying to prove Jodi deserves death and he needs to chill the eff out IMO and let the facts and evidence stand without all the dramatics.
Lorazepam is not only used for sleep by the way. Its used for anxiety more often actually. The contradiction was there. I heard it. Jodi didnt come up with this story all on her own. Her defense team helped her play this angle. I dont hold juan to a higher standard. Why should i? Defense attorneys use slimey tactics every day & 9 times out of 10, the defendant is guilty & they know it. Our constitutional rights say we are entitled to defense, not entitled to lie, slander & cheat to win. I hope juan doesnt chill the eff out & continues to expose these paid liars for what they are. This crazy biatch isnt going to get the verdict she deserves anyway
How a jury reacts to the interactions in court is what the verdict will boil down to. That's the reality. The prosecuter does have a chance and a responsibility to get justice for Travis and making the defense team pay won't help to that end. It's not worth risking a conviction to the fullest amount of punishment for the guilty party.
Juan and the media are exposing the lies to us, the viewers out here in tv land, but his antics may be doing the opposite for the jury who has limited access to the information. He has a lot to work with... tons of evidence. Outline that evidence, show there was premed, show Jodi preplanned this murder, and get a conviction. Making the defense pay should not be on his agenda.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: kcrn on March 26, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
I agree mostly but Dr Samuels is not the defense team and the defense team is not Jodi Arias. Jodi was the one telling lies and she's the one who murdered an innocent man not the people representing her as required by our constitution.
Dr Samuels did mark no when the questionnaire asked if Jodi was having trouble sleeping. The defense showed, and the portion of the tape Juan Martinez didn't play would also have shown, that Jodi was prescribed lorazepam as a sleep aid, proving that she was in fact having trouble sleeping. The doctor marked 'no' on the test because as a result of the prescription she was no longer having trouble sleeping.
Juan lied, made accusations against the doctor which were prejudicial and could not be proven, and he uses bullying tactics, something a previously or currently abused juror would find horrifying.
It doesn't make Jodi or her defense right but Juan has a higher standard in trying to prove Jodi deserves death and he needs to chill the eff out IMO and let the facts and evidence stand without all the dramatics.
Lorazepam is not only used for sleep by the way. Its used for anxiety more often actually. The contradiction was there. I heard it. Jodi didnt come up with this story all on her own. Her defense team helped her play this angle. I dont hold juan to a higher standard. Why should i? Defense attorneys use slimey tactics every day & 9 times out of 10, the defendant is guilty & they know it. Our constitutional rights say we are entitled to defense, not entitled to lie, slander & cheat to win. I hope juan doesnt chill the eff out & continues to expose these paid liars for what they are. This crazy biatch isnt going to get the verdict she deserves anyway
Lorazepam's label use is to treat anxiety.. How do we know why she was given it for one reason and not the other (other than her own claim?)
WebMD says that treatment for insomnia isn't on the label but that doctors may still prescribe it for that.
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-5244-LORAZEPAM+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=8892&drugname=lorazepam+oral
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We don't, in fact we can't believe anything Jodi says. Her psychologist overlooked all her lies which Martinez made clear to the jury. Still, I wonder if it might help her case even more if she was prescribed it for anxiety as that could support a PTSD diagnosis.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: kcrn on March 26, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
I agree mostly but Dr Samuels is not the defense team and the defense team is not Jodi Arias. Jodi was the one telling lies and she's the one who murdered an innocent man not the people representing her as required by our constitution.
Dr Samuels did mark no when the questionnaire asked if Jodi was having trouble sleeping. The defense showed, and the portion of the tape Juan Martinez didn't play would also have shown, that Jodi was prescribed lorazepam as a sleep aid, proving that she was in fact having trouble sleeping. The doctor marked 'no' on the test because as a result of the prescription she was no longer having trouble sleeping.
Juan lied, made accusations against the doctor which were prejudicial and could not be proven, and he uses bullying tactics, something a previously or currently abused juror would find horrifying.
It doesn't make Jodi or her defense right but Juan has a higher standard in trying to prove Jodi deserves death and he needs to chill the eff out IMO and let the facts and evidence stand without all the dramatics.
Lorazepam is not only used for sleep by the way. Its used for anxiety more often actually. The contradiction was there. I heard it. Jodi didnt come up with this story all on her own. Her defense team helped her play this angle. I dont hold juan to a higher standard. Why should i? Defense attorneys use slimey tactics every day & 9 times out of 10, the defendant is guilty & they know it. Our constitutional rights say we are entitled to defense, not entitled to lie, slander & cheat to win. I hope juan doesnt chill the eff out & continues to expose these paid liars for what they are. This crazy biatch isnt going to get the verdict she deserves anyway
How a jury reacts to the interactions in court is what the verdict will boil down to. That's the reality. The prosecuter does have a chance and a responsibility to get justice for Travis and making the defense team pay won't help to that end. It's not worth risking a conviction to the fullest amount of punishment for the guilty party.
Juan and the media are exposing the lies to us, the viewers out here in tv land, but his antics may be doing the opposite for the jury who has limited access to the information. He has a lot to work with... tons of evidence. Outline that evidence, show there was premed, show Jodi preplanned this murder, and get a conviction. Making the defense pay should not be on his agenda.
I highly doubt that making the defense pay is on his agenda. He is a seasoned prosecutor & im sure he deals with this every day. I think hes doing a fantastic job & that is my opinion. The evidence alone eould quite clearly speak of premeditation, however the slander thrown in is what muddies the waters. Anyone with half a brain cell will see this as 1st degree. Unfortunately, juries are not always made up of intelligent, common sense thinkers.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 05:33:13 PM
We don't, in fact we can't believe anything Jodi says. Her psychologist overlooked all her lies which Martinez made clear to the jury. Still, I wonder if it might help her case even more if she was prescribed it for anxiety as that could support a PTSD diagnosis.
Im pretty sure that anyone who is thrown into a prison system could qualify for anxiety.
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"Unfortunately, juries are not always made up of intelligent, common sense thinkers."
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What is the attraction to Jodi? I do not think that she is the seductress that is being said about her. Creepy if u ask me.
I do think it weird that this psychologist sent her a book. Beyond his Jon...if a book was ever recommended to me, it was at my expense to get it. He crossed the line. Wonder if his wife had some cross examination of him when he was done!
I am sure that it thrills Jodi to no end to ear that men find her to e a seductress. Yuk..
Also, does anyone really believe that jurors refrain from watching any of the coverage of any trial.i don't ..I think that curiosity woul get the best of most people
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^^^^job, not jon
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This domestic violence lady is boring for the short time that I have listened to her. Yawn...
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Quote from: cookie on March 26, 2013, 06:20:04 PM
What is the attraction to Jodi? I do not think that she is the seductress that is being said about her. Creepy if u ask me.
I do think it weird that this psychologist sent her a book. Beyond his Jon...if a book was ever recommended to me, it was at my expense to get it. He crossed the line. Wonder if his wife had some cross examination of him when he was done!
I am sure that it thrills Jodi to no end to ear that men find her to e a seductress. Yuk..
Also, does anyone really believe that jurors refrain from watching any of the coverage of any trial.i don't ..I think that curiosity woul get the best of most people
Oh yeah me too. I dont see how you could help yourself. Not to mention all of your friends & family giving their opinions. Im really surprised they didnt sequester this jury.
I found this domestic abuse expert boring also. Get to the lies already. We know theyre coming. I have alsi developed a strong distaste for jennifer wilmot. Her voice & mannerisms grate on me.
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Why is this woman allowed to drone on and on? She is where I left her 4 hours ago...
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Why is this woman allowed to drone on and on? She is where I left her 4 hours ago...
I know right? There should be a time limit. Get to the point already. Jodi was controlled & sexually abused by travis thus creating a fear of him & his temper which totally excuses her slicing & dicing of him.....blah blah blah! Let me just throw out there that she was free of her "abuser" & came knockin on his door uninvuted.. With a gun & probably a knife in tow.
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Quote from: flamom on March 26, 2013, 08:30:59 PM
Why is this woman allowed to drone on and on? She is where I left her 4 hours ago...
I know right? There should be a time limit. Get to the point already. Jodi was controlled & sexually abused by travis thus creating a fear of him & his temper which totally excuses her slicing & dicing of him.....blah blah blah! Let me just throw out there that she was free of her "abuser" & came knockin on his door uninvuted.. With a gun & probably a knife in tow.
Totally exactly true! High 5 to both of these posts
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Quote from: kcrn on March 26, 2013, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: flamom on March 26, 2013, 08:30:59 PM
Why is this woman allowed to drone on and on? She is where I left her 4 hours ago...
I know right? There should be a time limit. Get to the point already. Jodi was controlled & sexually abused by travis thus creating a fear of him & his temper which totally excuses her slicing & dicing of him.....blah blah blah! Let me just throw out there that she was free of her "abuser" & came knockin on his door uninvuted.. With a gun & probably a knife in tow.
Thanks! by the time this trial ends, it will be time to recolor my hair for goodness sakes....
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Is anyone else imagining how Juan Martinez is going to use this lady's testimony against Jodi? Jodi exhibited many of the traits that abusers have according to her expert testimony.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on March 26, 2013, 09:22:24 PM
Is anyone else imagining how Juan Martinez is going to use this lady's testimony against Jodi? Jodi exhibited many of the traits that abusers have according to her expert testimony.
Excellent point! Hope he uses that angle! Brilliant Amy's Sister....
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===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Natalee Holloway
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