snoopin around other threads and came across this? I recall Klaas posting this earlier today? BUT WOW to whomever sent her info. Guess Reality is a liar liar pants on fire. I apologize its long, but an interesting read.. looks like folks saved his posts?? klaasend
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klaasend wrote:
Posted by Reality at BFN (thought I'd capture it before he deletes it):
Reality
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Re: LATEST INFORMATION (VIDEOS & DISCUSSION) - PART 2
« Reply #461 on: Today at 06:26:34 »
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For nearly 2 years now, both gagirl and myself have posted on this forum.
During that time both of us have been slandered and bashed in the open forum and even worse in the PM system.
Gagirl has even had her private information splashed over the internet, yet we both have returned to BFN as asked. We are here because we are asked to be here, not to cause problems but to offer our views and opinions to the discussion. To help find answers.
Have any of you ever seen any posts by either gagirl or myself that has bashed, slandered, belittled, accused either Beth, Natalee, Robin or Dave ? And I’m not talking about posts not made by ourselves.
No matter what is rumoured neither of us has ever spoke against the family.
These new statements, call them what you wish, that are now being said about cocaine usage, surely these should be discussed in a civilized manner in order to try and figure out if these things are indeed true, would this not be the prudent thing to do ?
Should Robin Holloway see any of our posts and objected to the content of that post, both gagirl and myself would have no hesitation in removing the post that offended.
These latest rumours making the rounds about us being part of some Disinformation Group is the most ludicrous thing that has yet been posted on any of these forums and yes, these accusations have been and continue to be made here on BFN.
Time and again, Debbie has posted to address the post not the poster and yet these things are allowed to be posted whenever we attempt a discussion. If we do not respond we are avoiding the question, if we do respond we are derailing the thread. It's a no win situation, and one that could and should be corrected.
I do not include MIP6 in this as I’m sure he will speak for himself.
To answer your question Reality - YES
I received this nice compilation of Reality's posts anonymously:
Dearest Reality/Alvin/Clive/etc/etc,
Ask and ye shall receive...........................
Care to make any other denials that can be proven false?
REALITY
Reality seems to wear a different face in accordance with the current status of this case. A sampling of his true feelings about the victim and her family are listed below.
DISCLAIMER
Although admin at BFN denies these posts were made by Reality, bloggers with higher levels of credibility assure us they were in fact made by the same Reality posting at BFN.
1. Reality believes Beth is using the disappearance of her daughter to make money…
as i told you from yesterday early in the morning, beth arrived
in aruba again with a group of bandits, terrorists.
LOT IS HAPPENING IN ARUBA .
ITS NOT ABOUT NAT ANYMORE !!
ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND A GROUP OF BANDITS !!
AND A CIRCUS FULL OF CLOWNS FOLLOWING THESE TERRORISTS !!
IS NAT GOING TO POP UP ???
IS THIS WHY BETH BROUGHT THE PARAMOUNT MOVIE CREW IN,
FOR THEIR NEW MOVIE ???
TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF YOU GUYS ????
reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 11:18 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?s=e57331df5e705dd9fce2ffe8957dbe76&showtopic=113 2. Reality believes that Beth is out to harm the Aruban people ….
Beth is in aruba , arrived yesterday, not to look for nat. but to look
for trouble !!!
THIS TIME THIS GROUP OF GANGSTERS AND TERRORISTS WILL GET
THE TROUBLE THEY CAME TO LOOK FOR !!!
she came with a tv crew and a crew from the paramout pictures, to
harm Aruba and its people !!
POLICE WILL HAVE TO ARREST THIS PERSON FOR INTEROGATION !!
GOVERNMENT OF ARUBA OR HOLLAND WILL HAVE TO DECLARE THIS
PERSON AND GROUP PERSONA NON GRATA TO THE ISLAND !!!
THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA SHOULD STAND UP NOW AND WITH ALL FORCE
AGAINST THIS GROUP OF TERRORISTS THAT CAME TO ATTACK OUR
ISLAND,
ARUBANS STAND UP NOW TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR CHIL-
DRENS FUTURE.
ARUBANS ARE NICE, BUT NOT STUPID !!!
WE ARE GOING NOW TO WHERE THESE TERRORISTS ARE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 07:10 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=115 3. Reality implies that Beth instructed MB students and chaperones to remain silent…
Chief of investigating team of police,
said; now it will have to be proven , that nat or beth or together
ARE NOT SCAMPERS !!!!!!
ALL IN THE GROUP AND ALL CHAPARONES SHOULD CALL NOW;
297 587 0009 OR FAX 297 587 0051 ,
POLICE STATION NOORD ARUBA,
LAST CALL , DONT WORRY WHAT BETH TOLD YOU, TO KEEP QUIET,!!!
IF THEY TURN OUT TO BE SCAMPERS , ALL THEIR DONATION AND
INSURANCE MONEY WILL BE CONFISCATED FOR DAMAGES AND COSTS
DONE IN AND TO ARUBA !!! 4+3= 7 MILLION ?????
PLUS BY LAW A COUPLE YEARS JAIL TIME IN ARUBA, TOGETHER WITH
ALL THE CRIMINALS.
SO IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE TOGETHER WITH THE SCAMPERS IN
IN JAIL OR IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ARRESTED IN CRISTMAS OR
NEW YEARS WEEK FOR INTEROGATION AS SUSPECTS, DO YOURSELF
A FAVOR AND TALK NOW !!!!!
NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THE SUE CASES AGAINST THIS
BETH.
Nothing is happening in Aruba, last declaration of equu search team
they searched a couple of days with dave, found nothing, the third
and last search efford, they are done and gone. For this kind of
people all hope is gone, they cant even find a body, let stand a life
person !!!!
WE SAY ; WE WILL KEEP ON SAYING SHE IS ALIFE BUT NOT IN ARUBA !!!
REALITY NEVER HURT ANYBODY, ANY CAUSE OR NATION !!!!
MY NAME IS NOT REALITY.........
I AM ........REALITY ....!!!!!!!!!!!!
reality Posted: Oct 30 2005, 09:32 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=113 4. Reality says Mountain Brook students have the answer ……
A MASS DEMONSTRATION CALLED FOR TOMORROW.
TO SHOW BETH AND GROUP OF GANGSTERS AND CLOWNS
THAT THE ARUBAN CITIZENS ARE FED UP WITH THEM.
THE ANSWERS ARE NOW IN MOUNTAIN BROOK !
THAT THE U.S. MEDIA DOES NOT REPRESENT THE U.S. PEOPLE !!
THAT THE ARUBANS ARE NICE, BUT NOT STUPID !!!
THAT BETH IS NOT LOOKING FOR NAT. BUT FOR MONEY AND NOW TROUBLE !!!
PARAMOUT PICTURES HAS NO RIGHT , NO PERMIT TO FILM ANYTHING !!
STAND BY FOR MORE INFO...........
FROM REALITY, THE ONLY TRUTH SOURCE ...!!!!!
reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 09:08 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=119 5. Reality claims that Beth is not welcome in Aruba …..
BETH WAS BROUGHT THIS MORNING TO THE POLICE STATION
IN NOORD FROM HERE TO THE AIRPORT, OUT OF ARUBA !
NO DECLARATIONS , YET, RELEASED !!
HER STAY WAS VERY , VERY SHORT THIS TIME, CAUSE SHES
NOT WELCOME IN ARUBA ANYMORE, LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE
SHE CAME !!
PARAMOUT PICTURE GROUP WITH TRUCKLOADS OF EQUIPMENT
GONE TOO, TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM !!
THIS TIME THERE WAS NO PARTIES FOR BETH, NO COCKTAILS,
NO CASINOS, NO SHOPPING, NO FREE DINNING AND STAYS !!
NO DONATIONS, NO MOVIES, NO BOOKS,NO STORY TO SELL !!
HOPE THEY HAVE STRAIGHTEN HER HEAD IN THE POLICE STATION !!
REALITY NEVER HURT ANYBODY, ANY CAUSE OR NATION !!!
Reality Posted: Nov 3 2005, 01:45 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=120 6. Reality claims Beth should be sued by Deepak, Joran and Satish …..
thes 3 guys should sue beth for damaging their names without
any proof.
who beth think she is, she can rule the us circus clowns of the media,
but she can never give orders to arubas prime minister or our judges.
since beth is full of donations money, these guys can use this for
their studies !!
SUPREME COURT DICISION ; THEY ARE FREE , TO GO WHEREVER THEY WISH
reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:31 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=85 7. Reality gloats regarding Beth’s dire situation …..
MONDAY , STAY PENDING , PRIME MINISTER OF ARUBA GOT TIRED
OF THIS ANTI ARUBA ARAB FAT GUY , WHOS SUPPORTING BETH,
WILL BRING HIM TO COURT ON MONDAY.
MONDAY.. STAY PENDING FOR DEMONSTRATION CALLED IN FRONT OF
COURT HOUSE TO PROTEST AGAINST, THIS ANTI ARUBA GUY, BETH AND
US MEDIA.
BETH WENT TO ALABAMA MAYBE TO RUN FROM THIS HEAT, NOW A MAJORHURRICANE WILL HIT ALABAMA, NOW SHE LL HAVE TO RUN , TOGETHER
WITH ALL THE LAWMAKERS, THAT ASKED THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA
TO BOYCOTT ARUBA.
STRANGE, BIG DAY FOR BOTH PERSONS TRYING TO GIVE ARUBA A BAD NAME!!
ON THE SAME DAY ........ MONDAY.........
THE UNIVERSAL LAW !!!
ARUBA NEVER DID HARM NAT.
ARUBA IS INDEED A SAFE ISLAND !!!
reality Posted: Aug 28 2005, 08:01 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=55 8. Reality bashes Natalee …..
thinkaboutit; I agree with you,
nats so called friends have not been investigated enough , what do they
know about nats exboyfriend. ?
from the news i have heard she was drinking alcohol the whole day till
the next, on boat trips, then concert then carlos and charlie,
where were your friends ?
I do hope and pray for her safe return.
the parents should have known about this drinking problem.
reality Posted: Sep 2 2005, 12:18 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=55 9. Reality claims Beth is dining and gambling while expecting volunteers to dive ….
AN ANTI ARUBA GUY IS ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO DIVE AND LOOK FOR NAT FOR 1 HOUR.
THIS GUY IS PROMISING BETH AND NANCY DESGRACE TO PERSONALY WITH A GROUP TO DIVE AND FIND NATALEE ON THIS CIRCUS SHOW.
WEEKS AND WEEKS ARE PASSING , NO DIVERS ARE SHOWING UP.
WONDER WHY?? NO PAYMENT, NO WORK, WHERE IS ALL THE MILLIONS
BETH RECEIVING IN THIS SOUTHBANK ACCOUNT??
WHY BETH WANT TO KEEP ALL THE MONEY, RECEIVE EVERYTHING FREE, EXPECT
EVERY SEARCHGROUP TO WORK FOR FREE,WHILE SHE S DINNING AND WINNING AND PLAYING IN CASINOS??
ARUBA HAS MORE THAN 500 CERTIFIED DIVERS AND THOUSANDS OF REGULAR DIVERS.
THEY EVEN CANT GET 30 DIVERS.
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN , THANKS TO BETHS ATTITUDE ..........
reality Posted: Aug 26 2005, 10:11 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=50 10. Reality claims it is Beth’s attitude ….
The poeple of aruba lost interest in the case!
No one is talking about it, its not on the news anymore, no one is looking for nat
because the best searched teams of the us plus the latest equipment has been used, nothing.
All posters have been removed, thanks to beths attitude against aruba!!
Only thing that happened tonight ,i supose the us media doesnt know anymore what to do,besides sitting at the poolbar drinking pina coladas.........siesta and
parties, they came up with a terrific plan to go in the jail institute with hidden camaras, against the privancy law, to film Joran, as if they still dont know who Joran is.
This NBC media was taken to court tonight and judge ruled that what was filmed of joran cannot be aired in the us or aruba, if they do so without permission of joran,NBC wil have to pay Joran ONE MILLION FLORINS for every time they do so !! About $$ 600.000.=
When will these poeple start showing some RESPECT?????
Reality Posted: Aug 24 2005, 08:38 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=39 11. Reality claims that Aruba is paying for all Beth’s expenses ….
you should be open minded, saeker, im talking in general ,i didnot say you or on this forum , im saying the u.s. media is attacking aruba every day, beth is behind all this boycott issue to aruba,while receiving everything for free, help from arubans, dining and free hotels, free transportations, beth is shopping and playing in casinos,having a nice stay in paradise island, asking everybody for donations and when asked what is being done with all the $$$ she wont anser this question.
Reality Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:58 am
http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=8081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1425 12. Reality claims that Beth believes the white race is superior …..
when people like you and beth talk about your children , its clear that
you and beth think your child is better than a black or latino child !
Thats why I say you are sick and need help !
WHY THE MEDIA DONT GIVE MUCH ATTENTION WHEN A BLACK CHILD OR ADULT IS MISSING ?? BECAUSE THEY DESCRIMINATE, WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY, BECAUSE THEY ARE CIRCUS CLOWNS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK.!!
you still havent heard beth stayed for free more than 3 months in 5 stars hotels
in paradise , wine and dine for free everyday in a different restaurant, play
casinos, go shopping, ect, just to shop she pays.
all search groups were on voluntary basis.!
so you tell me what did she pay!!
I work like the judges only with facts not rumors and emotions.!
You have enough time to educate your child, that when the moment comes she s
all alone she knows how to behave, what to do , what not to do, wherever
she is this moment is going to come believe me.
Reality Posted: Sep 13 2005, 04:28 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=65 13. Reality claims that Beth embellishes the truth ….
the boy admitted having normal sex with her.
THE REST IS MADE UP BY BETH .
BY NOW EVERYONE KNOWS BETH.
reality Posted: Sep 14 2005, 10:37 AM
14. Reality claims Beth refuses to look further than Aruba for Natalee …..
want some.........reality
nat is a missing person, till her body is not found, this will stay so.
tiil her body is not found, she is alive somewhere , in a boat or in venezuela,
beth refuses to look for nat in an other country, only she knows why !
Reality Posted: Aug 28 2005, 10:32 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=52 15. Reality believes that Joran, Deepak and Satish should sue Beth …..
now all 3 are free of anything, they should sue beth ,nancy and us media
of damaging their names !
Reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:22 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=52 16. Reality implicates everybody but Joran, Deepak and Satish …..
nat will decide when to pop up !
or if beth still in control of her , will decide when nat should pop up.!
Stay in the reality; If nobody is looking anymore in Aruba or other countries
she will not be found !!!
I will stay with my opinion; everyone is innocent till proven guilty !
no one can proof the 3 were the last with her !
they declared from day one, they had sex or
romance with her, changed by beth they raped
or violated her.
If she been killed it could be another person !
What about boyfriend black that beth could not
accept ?
Why did he followed nat to Aruba ?
What did he do to nat ?
The girls in her group should be investigated !
OR
Is this a plan of beth ???
Reality Posted: Sep 10 2005, 11:21 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=77 17. Reality claims Beth is only after money and revenge ….
Haven t You noticed beth is not looking for nat.
beth never looked for nat in aruba, the Arubans were looking for nat.
beth is not looking for the truth, investigating the whole group.
NAT HAD A COLORED BOYFRIEND THAT FOLLOWED THE GROUP TO ARUBA.
BETH IS AFTER 2 THINGS AND NOT NATALEE, 1. MONEY 2. VENGEANCE !!
why is beth lying all the time if shes only looking for her daughter ??
reality Posted: Sep 17 2005, 04:55 PM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=88 18. Reality gloats because Joran, Deepak and Satish are free …..
Supreme Court ,group of judges from Curacao dicided that this case is
finito !!
ther never was a case of charching these guys with anything !
now there is nothing to arrest them for suspects neither !
So they are free of anything, they can do and travel where they wish !!
Reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:16 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=84 19. Reality claims that Beth and the MB students are now suspects ……
chief of police is finally talking,
asking beth to come to join the investigation, a lot of
questions for her to answer !!
A lot of questions for the whole group that were asked to
keep quiet !!
A lot of questions for the chaparones !!
So you see as i told you the first part of the investigation
is ready or nearly closed.
But now they are going to start with the second part of
the investigation where the answers may be !!!
All these people are suspects, they will be forced by
law to give all information, cause aint fair when you
are talking bad of Aruba, its people, its police, its
government, ect . AND YOU ARE HOLDING BACK
ON VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION.!!!!!!
CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS ON THE MILLIONS DOLLAR
ACCOUNT OF BETH AND WHY DAVE FATHER OF NAT.
DO NOT HAVE ACCES OF THIS MONEY FOR THE SEARCH.
AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE BETH IS ONLY AFTER MONEY,
IS NOT PAYING ANY BILLS, WANTS EVERYTHING FREE,
IS NOT LOOKING FOR NAT. ANYWHERE.
DONT BE STUPID , STOP THE DONATIONS AND THIS CASE
WILL BE OVER. THIS IS A MONEY-SICK PERSON !!!!
REALITY WITH THE REALITY AGAIN, OVER AND OVER !!!
OK GUYS YOU HAVE NOW ONLY NOW THE CHANCE TO TELL
THE WHOLE STORY AFTER 5 MONTHS.
IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TOO, ONE BY ONE OF YOU WILL BE
INVESTIGATED, MAYBE ARRESTED FOR QUESTIONING,
IN THE U.S.A. BY THE ARUBAN-DUTCH POLICE TOGETHER
WITH THE F.B.I.
ALL SUSPECTS IN ARUBA HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED,
NOW ITS YOUR TURN !!!!!!!
Reality Posted: Oct 26 2005, 09:45 AM
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=112 REALITY – BFN POSTS
1. Reality negates Beth’s work by promoting Aruba as a safe place to vacation ....
Dear Curves,
I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.
You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.
As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.
Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.
Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.
Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.
Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.
You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.
If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=2854.150 2. Reality trashes Beth ....
.... The US media is attacking Aruba every day, Beth is behind all this boycott issue to Aruba, while receiving everything for free, help from Arubans, dining and free hotels, free transportations, Beth is shopping and playing in casinos, having a nice stay in paradise island, asking everybody for donations and when asked what is being done with all the $$$ she wont answer this question.
Reality Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:58 am
http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=8081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1425 3. Reality trashes the Mountain Brook students.....
Those MB Brats, I wonder if they have started talking yet, possibly in the last year, whilst in the real world and away from the bosoms of their Mama's ?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4226.msg148163#msg148163 August 18, 2005
4. Reality believes the Mountain Brook students are unwilling to cooperate in the investigation ......
Yes it is very strange that a Senator had to basically, URGE them to co-operate.
That doesn't make any sense, don't you think ?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30 August 3, 2005
5. Reality disrespects Americans ….
They say that travel broadens the mind
Unless of course, you are American
Where it tends to widen the a**
Note: rude image
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4580.msg145899#msg145899 August 12, 2005
6. Reality blames the media because the case is not solved……
I agree and also if FOX hadn't got in peoples faces with their brand of American Sensationalism, this case would have been solved ages ago.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4042.msg121429 June 17, 2005
7. Reality believes the slandering of Joran can be blamed on the American Right Wing media …..
Interesting post, but how is the conclusion arrived at that Joran was wild ?
From what I have read, seen and heard, this young fellow seems pretty normal, nothing wilder than the MB Kids that were on Aruba.
In fact, a little pussy-cat when compared to kids that age that I have seen and don't even begin to tell me that does not apply to kids from the US.
One has to take much of the slandering of this kid with a pinch of salt, these are enuendos put forth by the Right Wing US Media, much the same as was applied to the alledged victim of Duke.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4006.msg121427 June 17, 2006
8. Reality disagrees with the family’s support of the boycott ….
I have to agree with you on this, in my tried and tested opinion the only achievment the Boycott can claim is that of offending innocent Aruban People and hampering the investigation.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?action=search2 September 16, 2005
9. Reality believes the those at the Refugee site are “nice folk” ….
But the vast majority of the Refugees are just nice people wanting the TRUTH of what happened to Natalee.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30 August 3, 2005
GAGIRL
Gagirl – moderator at BlogsForNatalee - tries to muddy the waters and take the focus off of the 3 suspects…..
Question: Is any other suspect or angle out of the question for you to consider?
I refuse to even read it! 0 (0%)
I will shoot and derail any topic that does not say J2K did it. 0 (0%)
I will read it and consider it. 35 (89.7%)
Doesn't matter..J2K did it. 4 (10.3%)
Total Voters: 39
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