Lively Case Discussion #543 11/14 - 11/15/2006

[klaasend]

I was planning a show tonight but the server is down ?
Any time line if it will be working again soon?

Dana

Hi Dana,

Last I heard the server company had a power outage.  They are starting to bring all the sites back up but we have to wait our turn.  You might want to email Tom and see if he has a better estimate of time.

[klaasend]

FLYING FISHBONE - SAVANETA - SATELLITE VIEW


FURTHER EAST OF FLYING FISHBONE - SATELLITE VIEW



Klaas

Theres something further east than this picture, just across the street to the East of this picture.  It looks like a fenced in area.  Either a cemetary or possibly a junk yard?  Its hard to tell from the satellite images.  But its a bunch of rectangles packed into a small area.  Can you post an image?

Yes, give me a few minutes.  I almost looked like an olympic size swimming pool to me (if that's what you are referring to)

[dkpen]

I'm not sure if anyone saw my question earlier or not, so I will restate it....


The witness who saw J2K at the Raquette court -- Jossy said he had the gardener following Joran for a few days. Why? Did Jossy ever say why or what his purpose for following Joran was for?

[Anna]

I'm not sure if anyone saw my question earlier or not, so I will restate it....


The witness who saw J2K at the Raquette court -- Jossy said he had the gardener following Joran for a few days. Why? Did Jossy ever say why or what his purpose for following Joran was for?

DKPen,
I never heard Jossy had the gardener following Joran.  That doesn't make any sense.  If Jossy did that, it would mean he had him following Joran BEFORE Natalee even disappeared.  He would have had to be to be on the spot the night she vanished.      

I don't think that was ever said that I heard.  Do you have a source for it?

.

[klaasend]

FLYING FISHBONE - SAVANETA - SATELLITE VIEW


FURTHER EAST OF FLYING FISHBONE - SATELLITE VIEW



Klaas

Theres something further east than this picture, just across the street to the East of this picture.  It looks like a fenced in area.  Either a cemetary or possibly a junk yard?  Its hard to tell from the satellite images.  But its a bunch of rectangles packed into a small area.  Can you post an image?

Yes, give me a few minutes.  I almost looked like an olympic size swimming pool to me (if that's what you are referring to)

Further east yet - top of the screen looks like an olympic swimming pool.  Does the area on the right side look like a cemetary?

[dkpen]

I'm not sure if anyone saw my question earlier or not, so I will restate it....


The witness who saw J2K at the Raquette court -- Jossy said he had the gardener following Joran for a few days. Why? Did Jossy ever say why or what his purpose for following Joran was for?

DKPen,
I never heard Jossy had the gardener following Joran.  That doesn't make any sense.  If Jossy did that, it would mean he had him following Joran BEFORE Natalee even disappeared.  He would have had to be to be on the spot the night she vanished.      

I don't think that was ever said that I heard.  Do you have a source for it?

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hehehe I got the boot and had a hard time getting back.

Anna, Jossy said this on one of his live interviews with the news media. Was very early on in the investigation, if you can call it that.
It was at the time the gardener witness came forward that Jossy stated this. I watched the live interview but no, I don't have a source. Perhaps FOX news has it archieved, I don't know.

[dkpen]

my mail box is gonna be so full after the server problem with SM is fixed. I'm not getting any notices on replies for the last 5 pages.  

[Tylergal]

Having no problems on this end but notice a few of you are getting double post.


Paulus claimed he went to Florida to withdraw Joran from college since he was supposed to have attended college in Florida and could not attend since he was in jail.  Not sure I buy it, but it's what Paulus claimed.

BS, why would you have to do that in person.

Withdraw him from college?         Maybe withdraw some funds for the video's in order to pay more lega feels.

[San]

Further east yet - top of the screen looks like an olympic swimming pool.  Does the area on the right side look like a cemetary?

It does look like a cemetary to me.  Where was the location of cemetary that the graves were broken into?

[San]

Further east yet - top of the screen looks like an olympic swimming pool.  Does the area on the right side look like a cemetary?

It does look like a cemetary to me.  Where was the location of cemetary that the graves were broken into?

Never mind I found the answer in SunFreaks thread.

The Cemetary – Located in Noord at St Ana’s Church. It was vandalized on 1-11-06 with head stones broken & crypts opened.

[dkpen]

It also looks like it could be a junk yard for cars to me.

[Anna]

Never mind I found the answer in SunFreaks thread.

The Cemetary – Located in Noord at St Ana’s Church. It was vandalized on 1-11-06 with head stones broken & crypts opened.

Maybe they were looking in the wrong cemetery?

 

[San]

Never mind I found the answer in SunFreaks thread.

The Cemetary – Located in Noord at St Ana’s Church. It was vandalized on 1-11-06 with head stones broken & crypts opened.

Maybe they were looking in the wrong cemetery?

 

I thought the same thing Anna.

[dkpen]

Never mind I found the answer in SunFreaks thread.

The Cemetary – Located in Noord at St Ana’s Church. It was vandalized on 1-11-06 with head stones broken & crypts opened.

Maybe they were looking in the wrong cemetery?

 

     

[Florida]

Early on, there was a RUMOR in Aruba that Natalee was being moved from house to house by a certain "sect"...

One was a small cinderblock house on the Savaneta seaport.
Wondering if the seaport is "east" of the restaurant......

http://www.island-temptations.com/story1/

[dkpen]

Front Page is back up.  

And the reply notices are coming in too.  

[San]

Front Page is back up.  

And the reply notices are coming in too.  

Is that like the flood gates opening

[San]

Early on, there was a RUMOR in Aruba that Natalee was being moved from house to house by a certain "sect"...

One was a small cinderblock house on the Savaneta seaport.
Wondering if the seaport is "east" of the restaurant......

http://www.island-temptations.com/story1/

This is going to sound gross but I'm going to say it.  I don't think the guys in these pictures would have no problem cutting up a body and taking it out to sea.

[Florida]

PLAINVIEW FLORIDA, INC.........................Michael Posner
701 BRICKELL AVE., SUITE 1600
MIAMI FL  33131

ARUBA ALOE OF AMERICA, INC................Louis Posner
701 BRICKELL AVENUE., Suite 1400
MIAMI FL  33131

MrPinkProductions........................Paul Brough
PO BOX 1122
Miami, FL 33131

Produced by: Pink Visual Productions
http://whois.domaintools.com/pinkvisual.com
Owned by Vista Distribution, Aruba
IP Location:  Netherlands Antilles - Curacao - Curacao -  

Joran comes home that night...goes on his computer & checks out 3 sites:

BACKSEATBANGERS.com
20 SW 27th Ave.
Suite 201    
Pompano Beach FL 33069

Produced by:
PINK VISUALS.com...............................Brough


NASTY DOLLARS.com
705 Washington Ave.
Miami, FL

Registrant:
RK Netmedia, Inc.
444 Brickell Ave #1001
miami, FL 33131
US
http://whois.domaintools.com/nastydollars.com

ALL SITES ACCESS
705 Washington Ave.
Miami, FL
http://whois.domaintools.com/allsitesaccess.com
_____________________________________________________________

Bang Bros. Entertainment, Inc.    (I'm thinking this may be Brough)
444 BRICKELL AVENUE
SUITE 1001
MIAMI FL 33131

Bang Bros.com, Inc.
10830 SW 113 PLACE
MIAMI FL 33176

Ox Ideas, Inc.
10830 SW 113 Place
MIAMI FL 33176

RK Net Media, Inc........................................................AllSitesAccess /NastyDollars
705 WASHINGTON AVENUE
3RD FLOOR
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139

When it says 2 films downloaded...Could this be what they mean?
(I know that at one time the website featured a "Private Video Vault"...)

Picture Gallery Builder  (Nasty Dollars)
How would you like to be able to have a batch of 100 galleries made for you in under 3 minutes? With our gallery builder you can choose from a number of templates and picture sets to make hundreds of galleries in a matter of minutes! Add that capability with our custom content and we are talking about a revolutionary concept...okay, maybe its just REALLY cool.

[Shizaru]

TL update ready Klaasend

I have done some very heavy revising, removed all info from message board sources except Pelham meeting reports and Dash postings.  And the Sources section at the end now includes links to all the cited articles and tscripts that are available online.

I still have a list of about 20 things I need to add or edit, including both SG statements