Lively Case Discussion #598 4/9 - 4/11/2007

[klaasend]

All of these Joran's in the dancing on the bar photo and no one knows when the picture was fabricated. Would be helpful to know if it was fabricated when Joran was in jail or not. That's one of the reasons why I was so interested in who supplied them and when.

There's only one person that I know of to ask is Dan Riehl.  Dan is the one who was sent the photos.  I doubt Dan will tell us his source.

[Patti]

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That's what I see.... and I don't have to use a pointer to explain what
anything is.... it's obvious.

[San]

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
The Kalpoes have nothing to spill. They don’t what the father did. Only Joran knows why he called his Dad in the middle of the night.


I bet they know now.  She woke up.  They thought she was unconscious, just like all the rest of the girls.  She woke up and they knew they were in trouble.  She already had the head injury...not severe enough to kill her. (Satish..."Is the girl okay?")  The K2 had already left by this time.  Then Paulus knew he had to do whatever it took to keep his son from being the scapegoat.  That is when he took out the gun.  JMO

See, I can do this...it's so much easier.  

If were are going with scenairo I think she woke up and that's how she suffered her head injury from Joran.  You are right about Paulus, he had to do whatever it took to cover for his sons actions.

Let's add the phone call to this.  Joran beat her after she managed to make that call.  When he caught her they fought and that is when he severely harmed her.  Paulus knew about the call so now he knows that Kidnapping and Rape charges could stick now add battery Joran is finished.  Paulus could very well be the murderer.

[justinsmama]

Carpe~ The area from which you magnified the image of a head~ is it the same area that is squared off or is it lower?

[Lala'sMom]

Night Mere, sweet dreams.

[carpe noctem]

Carpe:

After you zoom out - you will find that that skull covers an area as
large as from the man's ankles to his thighs.

I see your face!  It's an optical illusion.  It's a bush.  It's a scruffy looking bush.  There is no body there.  The body would have to be in an upright position. JMO

lalas.... it's a head.... a head that is deteriorated it is massively discolored from being outdoors and in the sun....

It matches the bushes, which are behind the head.


A bush DOES NOT HAVE A PINK TONGUE and blood dripping from

an ADHESIVE PATCH.

why would a deteriorated head have "dripping" blood and a pink tongue??[/quote]



It was a fresh kill. We are not talking pirates bones here. This was
a person killed & been dead probably 24 - 48 hours. Not dead long
at all.

[BIGORANGECRUSH]

How many states passed the bill to urge citizens to boycott Aruba?

My wife had her pocket book stolen in Food City today! The Pepsi man  stocking shelves saw it happen chased the thief and kept in touch with the police via his cell phone until they caught up with the thief and arrested him! She was lucky thet she got everything back!

I offered him $100. reward after I got there and he declined! My wife contacted Pepsi and reported his remarkable deed! ii am still going to send hIm a gift for dinner at a local restaurant! that way he may take it!

SEE THERE ARE SOME GREAT HUMAN BEINGS LEFT IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!

[Buckeye]

Carpe

Then why does the head appear skeletal??...the eyes, the nose...

[justinsmama]

Going to sleep... will check back tomorrow for further discussions.

[carpe noctem]

Carpe~ The area from which you magnified the image of a head~ is it the same area that is squared off or is it lower?

It can be seen if you look dead center in the square,

the square is off slightly... but look right in the middle of it


it is all there. That is pretty much the "hot box"

[BTgirl]

It was a fresh kill. We are not talking pirates bones here. This was
a person killed & been dead probably 24 - 48 hours. Not dead long
at all.

Okay, this is really gross and yucky and I can't believe I'm saying it - but, wouldn't someone who had been deceased 24-48 hours be bloated, rather than skeletal looking?

Sowwy.  

[Elaine]

How many states passed the bill to urge citizens to boycott Aruba?

My wife had her pocket book stolen in Food City today! The Pepsi man  stocking shelves saw it happen chased the thief and kept in touch with the police via his cell phone until they caught up with the thief and arrested him! She was lucky thet she got everything back!

I offered him $100. reward after I got there and he declined! My wife contacted Pepsi and reported his remarkable deed! ii am still going to send hIm a gift for dinner at a local restaurant! that way he may take it!

SEE THERE ARE SOME GREAT HUMAN BEINGS LEFT IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!

Yes there are! I am glad your wife got it back.

[Anna]

All of these Joran's in the dancing on the bar photo and no one knows when the picture was fabricated. Would be helpful to know if it was fabricated when Joran was in jail or not. That's one of the reasons why I was so interested in who supplied them and when.

I believe Klaas found the original post to have happened July 22, 2005, Ado.  Dan claimed to have posted them as soon as he received them and could get them on a server.

He is the only one who know where he got them.  You could email and ask him.   Doubt he would reveal his super secret source, however.  I am banned for life from his site for some reason.   We has a little misunderstanding.  


Yes, I would love to know where he got them, too, but he would prolly consider that a breach of confidentiality.

.

[Elaine]

Going to sleep... will check back tomorrow for further discussions.

Good night Justins!

[carpe noctem]

It was a fresh kill. We are not talking pirates bones here. This was
a person killed & been dead probably 24 - 48 hours. Not dead long
at all.

Okay, this is really gross and yucky and I can't believe I'm saying it - but, wouldn't someone who had been deceased 24-48 hours be bloated, rather than skeletal looking?

Sowwy.  

Try this:

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/index.htm

[Anna]

Now I want a pair of these to wear as house slippers!  They are really funny!

 

[Lala'sMom]

San
Can you see the head or the body?  What about you Justins?

[adoronron]

Why would the cops let a body remain there while two guys are painting rocks white? If you are covering up a crime that has international attention, you are not going to leave the body of the victum out in broad daylight. It seems obvious the powers on that island can do a very good job of keeping information tight to their chests. No way is that a body IMO.

[carpe noctem]

The head I think is around STAGE 2

[San]

San
Can you see the head or the body?  What about you Justins?

I see five ugly toes