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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28 9/12/2010 - 9/18/2010  (Read 282797 times)
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« Reply #520 on: September 16, 2010, 10:21:13 AM »

I thought everyone here would want to read this. 

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Please remove my name from your website. It is defamatory and libelous. Thanks for giving attention to this matter.
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William Jason Name Redacted is undoubtedly wishing he had not interjected himself in this case. Apparently new to the blogosphere via a request from Maxine Bernstein of the Oregonian, Mr. Name Redacted took to what he saw as his *nuveau*cause*celeb* status with moxy.

That was until he announced his appearance on the scaredmonkeys.net forum to answer questions about the case and cry the blues when he accused the Oregonian of using his rough notes to skewer Dede Spicher. According to Name Redacted the “not a lot of kissing but plenty of telling” memo was not supposed to be published. About 3 minutes into his introduction to his “sleuthing public” Name Redacted was asked why he spelled his name incorrectly and if he was indeed the son of convicted child porn possessor William Kent Name Redacted2. In a really bad move, Mr. Name Redacted denied the allegation and retreated with his tail somewhere on his person.

Kent Name Redacted2, former CEO of Graphic Sciences, is in Federal Custody for the next 4 years for possession of child porn and engaging in a file sharing subscription for same. Jason’s brother Grant is an employee of GS. All three Name Redacted’s hold numerous active and inactive business licenses throughout Oregon and Washington. Graphic Sciences has a Mexican affiliate office.

Both Jason and his brother James Grant have had numerous legal entanglements (editor’s note: say it just like Chief Margie with the flat “a”) and our attempts to substantiate Jason’s claims about court appointed child advocacy certifications have yet to be confirmed.

However, with his Uncle John Kerr, Jason Name Redacted is heavily involved in the Friends of Pimpollo Charity which sponsors various children issues and an orphanage in Mexico. FOP is a verified charity with a 50% tax deduction rate according to IRS Publication 78 in good standing, but they are years behind in their annual reporting.

Mr. Name Redacted, everything written on here is true and 100% verified.

When you chose to appear publicly, and subsequently write statements in your own name that are published, you can expect to lose any “right to privacy” on the matter as you have just agreed to become a quasi “public figure” on your accord.

I wish you well.
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It is my prayer that Kyron be found and return home. Of course like everyone else I want him found alive but feel his parents need peace and closure. May this happen before Spring 2011.
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« Reply #521 on: September 16, 2010, 10:25:27 AM »

Take a look at this posting from Blink’s site:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/#comments

1.   Jason Name Redacted says:
September 16, 2010 at 1:40 am
Please remove my name from your website. It is defamatory and libelous. Thanks for giving attention to this matter.
Jason Name Redacted
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William Jason Name Redacted is undoubtedly wishing he had not interjected himself in this case. Apparently new to the blogosphere via a request from Maxine Bernstein of the Oregonian, Mr. Name Redacted took to what he saw as his *nuveau*cause*celeb* status with moxy.
That was until he announced his appearance on the scaredmonkeys.net forum to answer questions about the case and cry the blues when he accused the Oregonian of using his rough notes to skewer Dede Spicher. According to Name Redacted the “not a lot of kissing but plenty of telling” memo was not supposed to be published. About 3 minutes into his introduction to his “sleuthing public” Name Redacted was asked why he spelled his name incorrectly and if he was indeed the son of convicted child porn possessor William Kent Name Redacted2. In a really bad move, Mr. Name Redacted denied the allegation and retreated with his tail somewhere on his person.
Kent Name Redacted2, former CEO of Graphic Sciences, is in Federal Custody for the next 4 years for possession of child porn and engaging in a file sharing subscription for same. Jason’s brother Grant is an employee of GS. All three Name Redacted’s hold numerous active and inactive business licenses throughout Oregon and Washington. Graphic Sciences has a Mexican affiliate office.
Both Jason and his brother James Grant have had numerous legal entanglements (editor’s note: say it just like Chief Margie with the flat “a”) and our attempts to substantiate Jason’s claims about court appointed child advocacy certifications have yet to be confirmed.
However, with his Uncle John Kerr, Jason Name Redacted is heavily involved in the Friends of Pimpollo Charity which sponsors various children issues and an orphanage in Mexico. FOP is a verified charity with a 50% tax deduction rate according to IRS Publication 78 in good standing, but they are years behind in their annual reporting.


Mr. Name Redacted, everything written on here is true and 100% verified.
When you chose to appear publicly, and subsequently write statements in your own name that are published, you can expect to lose any “right to privacy” on the matter as you have just agreed to become a quasi “public figure” on your accord.
I wish you well.
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« Reply #522 on: September 16, 2010, 10:26:40 AM »

Lazy Dog - ha...we were posting at the same time...sorry, didn't mean to step on your post.

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« Reply #523 on: September 16, 2010, 10:32:52 AM »

Re: "We have a knowledge of things we don’t want to know about. We have a knowledge of things we wish we didn’t," he said.

Could it be that LE found out that one or more of their own is involved with some bad things having to do with children? Not with Kyron, but involved in other things.  Finding out one of their own is involved would certainly be something LE something they wish they didn't know.


That is what I first thought as well.

It could also be something that would depress LE and probably LE would think is would surprise us, as well.



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From part 1 of the pc:

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Raw-Sheriff-on-Kyron-Horman-case-pt-1-103010894.html

QUESTION:  Can you talk about weither or not you think there are going to be other cases based on the stacks of information that are there?

ANSWER:  I believe that some of the information, through some of the discussions, there are going to be some concerns, not neccessarily cases, there may be cases, that come out of this, but through the discussion, there are going to be issues that the Sheriff's office is going to have to address. 
I believe the Portland Police Bureau will be actively involved in that.  Alot of these issues we won't address until we actually do a debrief on this investigation once it's come to a conclusion. 
There are alot of issues that have developed.  There's alot of information that our detectives that have, that they've developed through the course of this investigation, have developed some concerns.  And I think those concerns need to be addressed weither it's going to turn into an investigation and/or a notification process to other government entities.  That still remains to be assessed.

QUESTION: Are we talking criminal?
ANSWER: I can't comment on that.
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« Reply #524 on: September 16, 2010, 10:43:57 AM »

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg70

Where is Kyron;
Terri was seen by Dede crying real tears over all the things listed previously.
As far as Terri setting up Dede with someone from the property, Dede said she didn't know terris acquaintences and highly doubts that is what happened.
According to Dede the people she met at the birthday party she would have easily recognized at the garden property due to the fact there were not many people there working before the 5th. And noone on the 5th either.
Dede says her last work day was June 5th, and her whole reason for being there was to help get the place ready for that day. She said she never worked on the property after.
Dede said she still is a gym member, but has not worked out at the Beaverton gym for years, and has not worked out at her gym since Feb 09

Dede saw all coworkers and owners before and after it was said she left the property and still does not know who said she had left the property according to her.
Dede says she got the internship on the property through her gardening mentor, and never met the owners before the arrangement was made to work on the property.
June 4 morning time line;
8am ate breakfast at home,
8:15 am she left home for the garden and called her father while on the way and talked and drove reaching the property at 8:45.
8:45 she hung up and changed into her gardening gear.
8:50 she knocked on the door of the house hoping she was not too early.
From 8:50 till 9:15 she was in the house talking with the owner.
9:15 to 10:30 she was working with a group of people in the green house nursery area.
She left the property at 4 pm and went home and showered then
went to suhi land for dinner at Bridgeport then went back home and stayed there the rest of the night.
Dede is wondering what you mean by "next step".?
She said she has not been told what the next step will be or what will follow. We are not sure what you mean.

Where's Kyron, I hope that has helped answer some of your thoughts.


Odd, that the timeline shows her work from 9:15am to 10:30am, but then the next entry is 4:00pm.

He isn't saying what she did between 10:30am and 4:00pm, not even to say she was working.

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« Reply #525 on: September 16, 2010, 10:44:21 AM »

The interesting aspect to me of the Jason Name Redacted requests to Blink and other websites is that he has not sent me an email to remove information from his thread here in the forum.  He has my email address.  Is it because he knows he requested approval to post? 

I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

Somehow I don't think Maxine Bernstein is going to retract it 
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« Reply #526 on: September 16, 2010, 10:46:58 AM »

Re: "We have a knowledge of things we don’t want to know about. We have a knowledge of things we wish we didn’t," he said.

Could it be that LE found out that one or more of their own is involved with some bad things having to do with children? Not with Kyron, but involved in other things.  Finding out one of their own is involved would certainly be something LE something they wish they didn't know.


That is what I first thought as well.

It could also be something that would depress LE and probably LE would think is would surprise us, as well.



Puzzler:

From part 1 of the pc:

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Raw-Sheriff-on-Kyron-Horman-case-pt-1-103010894.html

QUESTION:  Can you talk about weither or not you think there are going to be other cases based on the stacks of information that are there?

ANSWER:  I believe that some of the information, through some of the discussions, there are going to be some concerns, not neccessarily cases, there may be cases, that come out of this, but through the discussion, there are going to be issues that the Sheriff's office is going to have to address. 
I believe the Portland Police Bureau will be actively involved in that.  Alot of these issues we won't address until we actually do a debrief on this investigation once it's come to a conclusion. 
There are alot of issues that have developed.  There's alot of information that our detectives that have, that they've developed through the course of this investigation, have developed some concerns.  And I think those concerns need to be addressed weither it's going to turn into an investigation and/or a notification process to other government entities.  That still remains to be assessed.

QUESTION: Are we talking criminal?
ANSWER: I can't comment on that.

For lack of a better phrase, I keep saying it seems like the investigation to Kyron going missing is like opening a can of worms.  After the can (case) is opened, all kinds of things are coming out.  It does appear that there are  a lot of issues (LE's words) that have come up and even within other government entities.  Wonder if there are any high officials in other areas or other cities...not necessarily LE officials, but government officials?

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« Reply #527 on: September 16, 2010, 10:48:38 AM »

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1170793/pg70

Where is Kyron;
Terri was seen by Dede crying real tears over all the things listed previously.
As far as Terri setting up Dede with someone from the property, Dede said she didn't know terris acquaintences and highly doubts that is what happened.
According to Dede the people she met at the birthday party she would have easily recognized at the garden property due to the fact there were not many people there working before the 5th. And noone on the 5th either.
Dede says her last work day was June 5th, and her whole reason for being there was to help get the place ready for that day. She said she never worked on the property after.
Dede said she still is a gym member, but has not worked out at the Beaverton gym for years, and has not worked out at her gym since Feb 09

Dede saw all coworkers and owners before and after it was said she left the property and still does not know who said she had left the property according to her.
Dede says she got the internship on the property through her gardening mentor, and never met the owners before the arrangement was made to work on the property.
June 4 morning time line;
8am ate breakfast at home,
8:15 am she left home for the garden and called her father while on the way and talked and drove reaching the property at 8:45.
8:45 she hung up and changed into her gardening gear.
8:50 she knocked on the door of the house hoping she was not too early.
From 8:50 till 9:15 she was in the house talking with the owner.
9:15 to 10:30 she was working with a group of people in the green house nursery area.
She left the property at 4 pm and went home and showered then
went to suhi land for dinner at Bridgeport then went back home and stayed there the rest of the night.
Dede is wondering what you mean by "next step".?
She said she has not been told what the next step will be or what will follow. We are not sure what you mean.

Where's Kyron, I hope that has helped answer some of your thoughts.


Odd, that the timeline shows her work from 9:15am to 10:30am, but then the next entry is 4:00pm.

He isn't saying what she did between 10:30am and 4:00pm, not even to say she was working.



I believe some of the other time was covered in earlier posts he made.

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« Reply #528 on: September 16, 2010, 10:48:39 AM »

Does the Portland police Bureau supervise airports?
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« Reply #529 on: September 16, 2010, 10:49:42 AM »

The interesting aspect to me of the Jason Name Redacted requests to Blink and other websites is that he has not sent me an email to remove information from his thread here in the forum.  He has my email address.  Is it because he knows he requested approval to post? 

I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

Somehow I don't think Maxine Bernstein is going to retract it 

JW may be a nice guy, but something just seems to be a little off there IMO.

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« Reply #530 on: September 16, 2010, 10:51:53 AM »

The interesting aspect to me of the Jason Name Redacted requests to Blink and other websites is that he has not sent me an email to remove information from his thread here in the forum.  He has my email address.  Is it because he knows he requested approval to post? 

I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

Somehow I don't think Maxine Bernstein is going to retract it 

JW may be a nice guy, but something just seems to be a little off there IMO.



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« Reply #531 on: September 16, 2010, 11:01:42 AM »

Re: "We have a knowledge of things we don’t want to know about. We have a knowledge of things we wish we didn’t," he said.

Could it be that LE found out that one or more of their own is involved with some bad things having to do with children? Not with Kyron, but involved in other things.  Finding out one of their own is involved would certainly be something LE something they wish they didn't know.


That is what I first thought as well.

It could also be something that would depress LE and probably LE would think is would surprise us, as well.



Puzzler:

From part 1 of the pc:

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Raw-Sheriff-on-Kyron-Horman-case-pt-1-103010894.html

QUESTION:  Can you talk about weither or not you think there are going to be other cases based on the stacks of information that are there?

ANSWER:  I believe that some of the information, through some of the discussions, there are going to be some concerns, not neccessarily cases, there may be cases, that come out of this, but through the discussion, there are going to be issues that the Sheriff's office is going to have to address. 
I believe the Portland Police Bureau will be actively involved in that.  Alot of these issues we won't address until we actually do a debrief on this investigation once it's come to a conclusion. 
There are alot of issues that have developed.  There's alot of information that our detectives that have, that they've developed through the course of this investigation, have developed some concerns.  And I think those concerns need to be addressed weither it's going to turn into an investigation and/or a notification process to other government entities.  That still remains to be assessed.

QUESTION: Are we talking criminal?
ANSWER: I can't comment on that.

For lack of a better phrase, I keep saying it seems like the investigation to Kyron going missing is like opening a can of worms.  After the can (case) is opened, all kinds of things are coming out.  It does appear that there are  a lot of issues (LE's words) that have come up and even within other government entities.  Wonder if there are any high officials in other areas or other cities...not necessarily LE officials, but government officials?


It does appear that way, and never would I have thought this. Scary to me what they might have all uncovered.
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« Reply #532 on: September 16, 2010, 11:02:44 AM »

The interesting aspect to me of the Jason Name Redacted requests to Blink and other websites is that he has not sent me an email to remove information from his thread here in the forum.  He has my email address.  Is it because he knows he requested approval to post? 

I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

Somehow I don't think Maxine Bernstein is going to retract it 

JW may be a nice guy, but something just seems to be a little off there IMO.



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« Reply #533 on: September 16, 2010, 11:24:33 AM »

Re: "We have a knowledge of things we don’t want to know about. We have a knowledge of things we wish we didn’t," he said.

Could it be that LE found out that one or more of their own is involved with some bad things having to do with children? Not with Kyron, but involved in other things.  Finding out one of their own is involved would certainly be something LE something they wish they didn't know.


That is what I first thought as well.

It could also be something that would depress LE and probably LE would think is would surprise us, as well.




Perhaps LE found an Insurance Policy taken out on Kyron? 

That would be something I would not welcome if I were LE. Perhaps she took out a I.P. on Kyron and the whole family     because she is so greedy.   

Remember the inheridance rant      she had with her second husband over spending her son's inheridance money on a boat?

I bet she became more desperate and panic stricken and tried everything possible to avoid a third divorce. 
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« Reply #534 on: September 16, 2010, 11:31:54 AM »


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I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

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If they had used his letter as the basis for an article without quoting it word for word, he would complain that the article was edited and slanted to miss the meaning of his letter. He is proud of his writing abilities, so he should be proud that they used his entire letter.

He should have done as many others have: Give info to LE and keep away from the news media. This is not a reality show.
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« Reply #535 on: September 16, 2010, 11:34:03 AM »


... snip

I remember him being upset that Oregonlive posted his entire letter regarding his relationship with DeDe 

Link:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

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If they had used his letter as the basis for an article without quoting it word for word, he would complain that the article was edited and slanted to miss the meaning of his letter. He is proud of his writing abilities, so he should be proud that they used his entire letter.

He should have done as many others have: Give info to LE and keep away from the news media. This is not a reality show.
Post of the day, that is exactly what he should have done, but imo, he is to narcissistic and couldn't resist injecting himself the way he did. 
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« Reply #536 on: September 16, 2010, 11:35:35 AM »

What about Kyrons alleged statement about his stepmother being dead?  How would that fit in here?  Or could it be more gossip thrown in as "fact" to cloud the waters?
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« Reply #537 on: September 16, 2010, 11:36:11 AM »

People Magazine has an article about the revamping of the investigation.

"Police Narrow Investigation in Case of Missing Kyron Horman"

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20426440,00.html

Similar to articles already posted here.
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« Reply #538 on: September 16, 2010, 11:45:14 AM »

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pol/1956661116.html

I googled the lasted on the Kyron Horman case becasue I heard a snipette of the Sheriff talking about the Case this afternoon while on a short drive. In goggling the case I ran across more than a few people who also have a gut feeling that the case is turning into a witch hunt rather than a police investigation and even worse that the public portrayal of the case so far may gloss over a major conspiracy to protect the school system when there may already have been a confession by a teacher working at the school. The clue comes form the Suave Island police divers episode earlier in the case after the massive man hunt. It was not Terri Harman who called 911 but rather a school that was in all out panic mode. Why should the school be getting hysterical or in panic mode? Obviously because they know something or have something to hide. One of the staff people at that school had a definite affinity for boys wearing glasses because almost all the boys in the school photos were shown wearing glasses and few if any of the girls in the pictures. That slide show was later removed from the school site after people pointed it out to the public! The fact of the mater is that police routines don't usually go out diving at a pin point location on or near a specific spot like sauvies island without a bit of evidence or something like a confession . May be a tip? Willamette week put it down as a cell phone ping that somehow connected Terri Horman but then no body was recovered at least from the dive team being watched and photographed by the local media. meanwhile further down river another dive team may have found the body and disposed of it it to clean up the case and redirect the motive to the weirdo step mother who already the who done it mystery arm chair tv watchers had made into their prime fantasy suspect. Talk about a possible frame job by police!


The public has very little about the million dollar police investigation to date except for media speculation gone a bit wild or real police investigation leaks that are intentional and /or unintentional? The parents and police suggest they know kyron is still alive and waiting to be rescued or is this an other fantasy or an other dimension to an everlasting cover up?. Go back online to see the original lost kyron horman time line. There you will see that the school probably did know that kyron was missing because someone there was the last person to see Kryon and not the step mother? The step mother called the school to find out what happened to kyron when the bus did not bring him home and she went into panic mode after the school reported to her that the child was never seen there or had been seen there only early in the morning. The school seems to have know more than they have been saying because if the police investigation suggests Terri drove Kyron away from the school after photographing him there with his science fair project display then they would not have gone into panic mode calling 911. The school staff people and teachers might well know more about what happened and don't want a word of it reported ...nor does the school district. Once the cover up started it then only got more preverse....so it could never be undone which is why kyron if found would need to be disposed of.
Yup...willing to bet on a teacher being responsible....
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« Reply #539 on: September 16, 2010, 12:38:10 PM »

That Craigslist post above is riddled with inaccuracies. 
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