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« Reply #160 on: November 05, 2011, 02:06:49 AM »


Ugh.  I can't get this information where I am in the world - it's blocked.  Lovely that you post the pic, thank you.  I don't suppose you can post any of the info?

Thanks!!!

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TWISTED SECRET LIFE OF BABY LISA MOM
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Published on: November 4, 2011
by JOHN BLOSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Photography by: Kansas City Star via Getty Images

Shocking new twist -- the mother of missing BABY LISA Irwin, DEBORAH BRADLEY – has been accused of being a cold-hearted temptress who at­tempted to seduce the husband of a former friend.

An in-depth ENQUIRER in­vestigation ripped the lid off the shock­ing charges surrounding the 25-year-old mom, who projects herself in interviews as a distraught mother shattered by the disappearance of her 11-month-old daughter.

We spoke to neighbors who knew Deborah in 2003 when she was the wife of soldier Sean Bradley at Fort Bragg, N.C. – and they say she deliberately planned to bed the husband of another Army wife.

“Deborah was supposed to be my friend, but she tried to se­duce my husband,” Sara Evarts, 29, of Clearwater, Fla., told The ENQUIRER.

Sara, who lived across the street from Deborah at Fort Bragg, re­called how the now-heavyset mom was a slender, buxom brunette and considered the most beautiful of the soldiers’ wives.

One evening, Sara said, while she was at work, Deborah went over to her home to “borrow something,” from her then-husband Jason and made no attempt to leave.

“When my husband asked her to go be­cause he was ready to go to bed, she joked, ‘Oh, I’ll join you,’ and started taking off her blouse!” Sara recalled. “My husband made her leave.

“I came home late that night, and Jason was sitting in the dark, and he said, ‘We need to talk.’

“He told me that after Debbie made her move, he told her, ‘This isn’t funny,’ and showed her out the door.”

Even more alarming, another Army wife and neighbor, Shirley Pfaff, said that Deborah bragged to her that she had planned to seduce Jason.

“She said, ‘I’m going to get her husband, just to hurt Sara,’ ” Shirley told The ENQUIRER.

When we contacted Jason, who’s now divorced from Sara, he re­called the incident and said that he “wasn’t about to allow anything to happen” with Deborah.

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Thanks so much.  It's not so much I thought TNE was going to open up earthshaking clues - it was the not knowing that mas making me itchy!  Thank you!
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« Reply #161 on: November 05, 2011, 08:14:24 AM »

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Police: Still actively searching for missing baby: The Kansas City Police Department is still actively searching... bit.ly/vgKvGI
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Police: Still actively searching for missing baby
November 4, 2011

searching for missing baby Lisa Irwin, authorities said Friday.

Police confirmed that their search is still active. This follows a media report that the police had called off active searches for the baby.

Baby Lisa has been missing a month after her parents, Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, called 911 to report her missing about 4 a.m. on Oct. 4. Lisa's first birthday is next week.

Sgt. Stacey Graves, a spokeswoman for the Kansas City Police Department, said Friday that detectives have received 1,205 tips and cleared 959 of them. She did not provide any additional details on the progress of the investigation.

Police have been unable to schedule a second interview with baby Lisa's older half-brothers. Joe Tacopina, the New York attorney representing baby Lisa's parents, had said the interviews would occur this week.

The 5-year-old and 8-year-old boys were interviewed by a trained child specialist on Oct. 4 in the hours after Lisa was reported missing. Police watched the interviews via closed circuit television.

Police wanted a second interview and DNA samples from the boys. That had been scheduled for a week ago, but it was canceled by Tacopina. Cyndy Short, who was removed from the case last week, had said she objected to allowing the boys to be interviewed again, saying it would not be productive.

Defense attorneys who aren't involved in the case have said they would not allow the boys to be interviewed again, in part because it would be traumatic to them.

But others content that the boys could have heard or seen something that would lead to Lisa's safe return.
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Irwin and Bradley have not spoken to local reporters since the first week that they reported their daughter missing, but earlier this week allowed Good Morning America to film the two boys trick or treating.
(Interesting comments at end of article)
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« Reply #162 on: November 05, 2011, 10:39:18 AM »

I'm thinking that LE is just waiting on reports from the FBI lab.  There's got to be something going on in the background.
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« Reply #163 on: November 05, 2011, 11:02:27 AM »

http://www.kmbc.com/r-video/29692207/detail.html
Community Organizes Baby Lisa Search
Police Not Involved In Saturday's Effort
POSTED: 9:38 am CDT November 5, 2011
UPDATED: 9:42 am CDT November 5, 2011

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/video/29692207/detail.html#ixzz1cqLHZVpu

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« Reply #164 on: November 05, 2011, 11:03:24 AM »

I'm thinking that LE is just waiting on reports from the FBI lab.  There's got to be something going on in the background.

I really hope so. But I admit I'm feeling less than hopeful lately. I just don't get how a baby can diasppear without any clues. If it's this easy to either kidnap a child (or fake a kidnapping, which I suspect, but I don't know for sure) then I suspect more of these types of crimes will be taking place. 
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« Reply #165 on: November 05, 2011, 12:30:04 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-investigation-184600224.html
Missing Baby Lisa Irwin Investigation Who’s Who
By Carol Bengle Gilbert | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Tue, Nov 1, 2011
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« Reply #166 on: November 05, 2011, 12:33:42 PM »

Man took a short drive through the Irwin neighborhood to give people following the case a perspective from the ground here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXiLkJ1jr4&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #167 on: November 05, 2011, 01:07:52 PM »

Bald head, history of arson, puppy, kitten, baby, on foot, Megan's cell phone, criminal record.

There are definite connections to Jersey.  Is he a scapegoat, an accomplice, a kidnapper, or just a peripheral player who had nothing to do with any of this?

It is believed he turned the water on in the neighbor’s yard at 9:30 and it was turned off by 11:30.  This puts him only a few doors away from the Irwin home during those times.  There was an alleged call from a Bradley/Irwin cell phone to a cell phone Jersey had access to but the time is not clear and has been reported as both 8:30 pm or 2:30 am, the same time as the dumpster fire.  Maybe there were two calls and both times are correct.

If Jersey had been delivering drugs or invited to come over and party, an 8:30 phone call makes sense... He stops by, drops off the drugs or has a few drinks, then heads over to the neighbors to turn on the water.  It is possible he brought the kitten to the Irwin home as he has a history of following and/or taking pets.
 
Based on the witness accounts, one describes a bald headed man with a baby and one describes a shortish, 'built' man with salt and pepper hair walking with a baby several miles from the Irwin home.  My theory assumes Jersey helped and agreed to get Lisa to a specific location from whence another accomplice, perhaps Debra's father, then took the baby. 

This would be a brilliant move to throw LE off the path of what happened to Lisa.  It would be essential to the idea of a 'kidnapping' to have witnesses see a man walking with a baby.  It would be even better to confuse the investigation by having two different descriptions of that man, which in actuality is two different men.

So, Debra either intentionally or accidentally kills her baby.  She calls her father in a panic who then develops this plan to stage events and make it look like a kidnapping.  They acquire the assistance of Jersey and here we are.

Just as an aside, my husband recently saw a news report about Lisa Irwin's disappearance.  It was his first exposure to the case and his initial thought was that Debra sold her baby.  Nothing would surprise me at this point, especially knowing Lisa was placed in her crib at 4:30 pm and expected to stay there until Mom decided to awaken from a drunken sleep the following morning.

Unless Mom knew early on the baby would not be in her crib until the following morning?
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« Reply #168 on: November 05, 2011, 01:53:17 PM »

I'm thinking that LE is just waiting on reports from the FBI lab.  There's got to be something going on in the background.

I really hope so. But I admit I'm feeling less than hopeful lately. I just don't get how a baby can diasppear without any clues. If it's this easy to either kidnap a child (or fake a kidnapping, which I suspect, but I don't know for sure) then I suspect more of these types of crimes will be taking place. 
The problem is the only people who can actually provide any information refuse to even talk to the police.  The police have probably exhausted every viable lead and double or triple searched most places by now.  Only 1 person knows what happened, well probably a few more by now, if they keep quiet she will probably get away with murder.  And by keeping quiet I mean only talking to press who will pay and only when her lawyer says it's ok. It should also be illegal for lawyers to play their sleazy, slimy games with the law like tacojoe ,  and others we've unfortunately gotten to know over the last few years.  Rant over and all IMO, of course.
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« Reply #169 on: November 05, 2011, 01:53:28 PM »

Man took a short drive through the Irwin neighborhood to give people following the case a perspective from the ground here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXiLkJ1jr4&feature=player_embedded

Thnx for this ! It is nice to c the area of the suspects ?
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« Reply #170 on: November 05, 2011, 05:16:04 PM »

http://www.kmbc.com/r/29693040/detail.html
Volunteers Hold Baby Lisa Search
Last Police Search More Than 2 Weeks Ago
POSTED: 3:06 pm CDT November 5, 2011
UPDATED: 3:15 pm CDT November 5, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Volunteers searched Saturday in hopes of finding clues in the disappearance of missing baby Lisa Irwin.

People, including the baby's grandparents, combed through the woods near 53rd Street and Randolph Road. Witnesses have reported seeing a man carrying a baby in that direction on the night Lisa Irwin disappeared.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29693040/detail.html#ixzz1crrIVS3D


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« Reply #171 on: November 05, 2011, 05:44:50 PM »

http://www.kmbc.com/r/29693040/detail.html
Volunteers Hold Baby Lisa Search
Last Police Search More Than 2 Weeks Ago
POSTED: 3:06 pm CDT November 5, 2011
UPDATED: 3:15 pm CDT November 5, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Volunteers searched Saturday in hopes of finding clues in the disappearance of missing baby Lisa Irwin.

People, including the baby's grandparents, combed through the woods near 53rd Street and Randolph Road. Witnesses have reported seeing a man carrying a baby in that direction on the night Lisa Irwin disappeared.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29693040/detail.html#ixzz1crrIVS3D




Grandparents? Do they mean JI's parents?
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« Reply #172 on: November 05, 2011, 05:53:50 PM »

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/11/busy-life-of-deborah-bradley.html?m=1
Thursday, November 03, 2011
The Busy Life of Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin


Baby Lisa was so precious --- so sweet-looking and so beautiful.   Many on his blog have commented on the sad looks out of her eyes in some photos.  I, agree, and she seemed to be concerned with her own welfare.  That picture of her standing at the glass
door while Deborah takes her picture from the outside [ you can see the reflection of Deborah with her camera ] is particularly poignant and it's as though she is pleading not to be left inside by her mother - she's worried.   Oh - to pick her up and cradle her!
   This is a truly wretched case.  The answers seem so near but yet are so far away.  Lisa deserves the honor of being loved enough by her parents that they would come clean regardless of the consequences to them.  That is the least they can do.
That is my favorite photo of Lisa,and I agree with your observation.In her mind her mom is so far out of reach.
Those little hands.......sigh.   
The "Adult Time" remark from her mom did it for me.What a cop out.

I know, those little hands - so sweet;   You're right, a total cop out.  She is unsettling to me.  Disturbing.
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« Reply #173 on: November 05, 2011, 05:58:23 PM »

Could it be just another lie that the boys heard something that night?  DB is the one who stated that, and upon further questioning of what they heard, she didn't want to ask them, for fear of upsetting them.   I don't think they heard a darn thing, and if LE spoke with them, another lie would be revealed.  moo

I think so too.  And I feel as though they surely must know something important she doesn't want revealed.
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« Reply #174 on: November 05, 2011, 06:05:51 PM »

Another great video someone made of the local area - driving from Irwin house to dumpster fire to 4:15 am sighting at gas station so you get a real feel for the woods  and roads.  He ends up at the River giving you an idea of the distance if on foot and the river itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-Xb-Xe0hg

Jimspellmancnn also had a tweet about a public search tomorrow of the area near the gas station as well as some other interesting things.

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn
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That video was very helpful.  Dreary-looking area.
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« Reply #175 on: November 05, 2011, 09:39:00 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
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The Man that Mike Thompson Identified in the photo was Brando O.o
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        Catherine Tucker Jaime, how do we know that? Just curious who named him. thank you :0
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        Jennifer Coil Schumaker Is this a fact???? Wow!!!
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        Karen Epstein Berger They just reported it on judge Jeanine -
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« Reply #176 on: November 05, 2011, 10:07:27 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
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The Man that Mike Thompson Identified in the photo was Brando O.o
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        Catherine Tucker Jaime, how do we know that? Just curious who named him. thank you :0
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        Karen Epstein Berger They just reported it on judge Jeanine -
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I don't remember a photograph of Brando. Anyone have anything on him?
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« Reply #177 on: November 05, 2011, 10:21:04 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
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The Man that Mike Thompson Identified in the photo was Brando O.o
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        Catherine Tucker Jaime, how do we know that? Just curious who named him. thank you :0
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        Karen Epstein Berger They just reported it on judge Jeanine -
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What are the chances?

Samantha Brando's husband image has never appeared in the media and ... Mike Thompson was not from the neighborhood but  ... he picked the Irwin/Bradley's next door neighbour ... husband of Samantha Brando ... from a photo lineup as the male he observered on 4:00 AM on the morning that baby Lisa was reported missing.

What are the chances?

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Mike Thompson - 04:00 Motorcyclist Witness

Witnesses Claim They Saw Man Carrying Missing Baby Lisa
Updated: Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:27 AM CDT
Published : Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:25 AM CDT


(NewsCore) - Three Kansas City residents said Friday that they saw a suspicious man walking the streets with an infant on the night that 11-month-old Lisa Irwin disappeared.

Mike Thompson told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he was heading home on his motorcycle around 4:00am when he noticed the man, who was dressed in a T-shirt, on a street near Baby Lisa's home.

"[It was] 4 o'clock in the morning, 45 degrees, the baby don't have a blanket or coat or nothin', and this guy's walking down the street," Thompson said. "I thought it was kind of weird."

Thompson claimed the infant -- who was only wearing a diaper -- resembled Baby Lisa and said that he would recognize the man if he saw him again.

He said he waited about a week to report the sighting to police because he did not immediately make the connection to Baby Lisa's disappearance.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/baby-lisa-witnesses-speak-dpgonc-20111021-fc_15585422


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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, eventually, you were shown photographs. We do not want to identify in any way, shape or form the individual that you picked out of a group of photographs, except to say that this is a person who reportedly lives in the neighborhood. That being said, what happened vis-a-vis these photographs, Mike?

THOMPSON: Well, now, I went down to the police station or whatever it was, and they showed me a kind of a line-up picture with six guys on it. And I picked him out of the six because that was the man I seen. And they thanked me, and that was it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/01/ng.01.html


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GRACE: ... And what did the man look like?

THOMPSON: Oh, about 5-7, 5-8, kind of salt-and-pepper hair. Yes. He`s pretty well built. He had a T-shirt on and white pants.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/02/ng.01.html


Baby Lisa's Parents Meet With New Lawyer
11-Month-Old Will Be Missing 1 Month On Thursday
POSTED: 5:42 pm CDT November 2, 2011
UPDATED: 5:53 pm CDT November 2, 2011


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The neighbor, a woman named Samantha, has spent a lot of time with the couple since Lisa disappeared. She was at the home on North Walrond Avenue while Bradley and Irwin met with Picerno on Wednesday.

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http://www.kmbc.com/r/29667881/detail.html


Report: Neighbor says he passed polygraph in missing baby case
Posted: Nov 03, 2011 11:25 AM PDT
Updated: Nov 03, 2011 5:17 PM PDT


KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) - A man who lives next door to the home of baby Lisa Irwin says he has met repeatedly with detectives and passed a polygraph.

CNN interviewed Wednesday the husband of Samantha Brando, who is good friends with Debbie Bradley and spent much of the evening Oct. 3 drinking and smoking cigarettes with Bradley. CNN is not identifying the husband, who declined an on-camera interview.

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

Representatives for the Kansas City Police Department did not immediately respond to requests from KCTV for comment on Thursday.

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Police focused on Brando's husband because he had moved out of his home just hours before Irwin went missing, CNN reported. The couple had marital problems.

Brando and her husband met with a marriage counselor in the early afternoon on Oct. 3. The counselor suggested that the couple attempt a trial separation and the husband left the home about 5 p.m. Oct. 3, CNN reported. He then went to a friend's home.

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Brando's husband told CNN that he spent the night of Oct. 3 with a friend. He showed CNN texts between him and his wife on Oct. 3. At 10:33 p.m., the neighbor wrote to Brando that he loved her and their daughter and to kiss her goodnight. Brando responded at 10:54 p.m. that she and their daughter loved him too.

The man told CNN that he went to bed. He got up about 5 a.m. to go to his job at the Whiteman Air Force Base. The man said he received a call from Brando at 5:59 a.m. Oct. 4 to alert him that Lisa was missing.

The man said he worked his scheduled shift and rushed back to Kansas City afterward to see if he could help in anyway find the baby. The man to that end he cooperated with authorities when they focused on him, allowed his home to be searched repeatedly and ultimately took the polygraph test last week.

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Read More:
http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-saysNeighbor

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« Reply #178 on: November 05, 2011, 10:27:07 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
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The Man that Mike Thompson Identified in the photo was Brando O.o
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        Catherine Tucker Jaime, how do we know that? Just curious who named him. thank you :0
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        Jennifer Coil Schumaker Is this a fact???? Wow!!!
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        Karen Epstein Berger They just reported it on judge Jeanine -
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I don't remember a photograph of Brando. Anyone have anything on him?

On Samantha's list of friends.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221
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« Reply #179 on: November 05, 2011, 10:40:21 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
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The Man that Mike Thompson Identified in the photo was Brando O.o
Like · Comment · 26 minutes ago ·

        Catherine Tucker Jaime, how do we know that? Just curious who named him. thank you :0
        25 minutes ago · 1
        Jennifer Coil Schumaker Is this a fact???? Wow!!!
        23 minutes ago · 1
        Karen Epstein Berger They just reported it on judge Jeanine -
        21 minutes ago · 1
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I don't remember a photograph of Brando. Anyone have anything on him?

On Samantha's list of friends.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221
I see he deleted all his posts down to 2009. Wierd ..
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