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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 - 8/16/13 (Read 511168 times)
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Magnolia
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 01:22:58 AM »
I am just wondering why on earth a Minister of Tourism on a small island would
need a body guard.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 01:37:27 AM »
Can't really understand all of this even with a translation...but I think they could be saying he is the child of a police?
http://www.boletinextra.com/bodyguard-di-minister-otmar-oduber-deo-fluonia-deteni-pa-atraca-y-horta-i-phone-di-turista-na-radisson/#comment-10929
Papiamentu translation:
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 02:16:39 AM »
Quote from: Magnolia on December 09, 2012, 01:22:58 AM
I am just wondering why on earth a Minister of Tourism on a small island would
need a body guard.
Maybe because they're "corrupt as hell"?
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 02:33:07 AM »
Justice for Natalee!
::justice2NJ::
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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I have been away, not by choice, but by necessity. I'm very close to achieving a very BIG goal, but that darn world language set me back a few months. I will let you all know once I get the letter. Natalee Holloway & all of you Monkey's inspired this monkey to take matters into his own hands, in order to create change where he could. I do this, not only for myself, but also to help carry on Natalee Holloway's compassion for others. My contributions have already created change in the state of Washington. Obviously solely not my contribution, but I worked tirelessly for what I believe is right in terms of choice and equality, which also helped the state of Washington have an 81% voter turnout. Natalee Holloway helped me finally choose to do what my passion has always been, which is helping to create change where I think it needs to occur.
I will always be thankful, that after a few posts, I was welcomed into a very special group of people(monkeys). Randomly looking up something on Natalee Holloway, many years ago, brought me to this place that I could never have imagined. Natalee Holloway's door on the planet earth may have closed, but by doing so, she opened a million other doors for people who will carry her memory on for years to come. Let me emphasize, her door on earth closed, but a very special door opened to the gates of Heaven where her compassion can be better served to touch humanity as a whole. I believe, because I'm living proof of that touch. May we continue to open the door that was closed on her, by touching others lives, so their doors open up. Goodnight & God Bless!
KTF
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES
GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS
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Excellent post KTF
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 01:47:33 AM
Another Facebook....
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004452392007
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 10:36:01 AM »
Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 09, 2012, 09:44:57 AM
Excellent post KTF
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: Nut44x4 on December 09, 2012, 09:44:57 AM
Excellent post KTF
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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December 09, 2012, 04:18:16 PM »
He has this one too. I don't think you posted it yet:
http://wwb.amigate.com/people_card.php?mode=people_card&p_id=415981
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December 09, 2012, 05:26:24 PM »
Thanks Klaas!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=28330
AHATA asks Government to implement three point strategy to address crime wave.
Posted by Aruba Daily on December 10th, 2012
Oranjestad – December 8 2012 - The President of the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Assocaition, James Hepple, today expressed horror at the report of the armed robbery of Kay’s Jewellery store, Paseo Herencia, which took place on Thursday December 6 in front of a number of visitors as well as a spate of other crimes committed in the past few days.
“This is the third major incident in the recent past in the Palm Beach area” he said “and the situation just seems to be getting worse”
Mr. Hepple explained that AHATA, ATSA and ATIA have been holding an ever increasing number of meetings in the recent past with the Government to express their concern with the escalation in crime. “We have met with the Prime Minister, The Minister of Justice, The Minister of Tourism and, on a regular basis, with the Commissioner of Police to discuss these matters. Whilst we acknowledge the situation is complex we believe there are three key strategies which should be pursued” he said.
First, the Government needs to devote more resources to its police force, especially to its detectives, to help them further increase the number of arrests.
Second, the Government needs to strengthen the control of our borders as it is thought that a significant number of recent crimes have been committed by nonresidents from neighboring countries.
And third, and perhaps most importantly, the judiciary needs to institute much heavier penalties for those habitual criminals who are threatening our nation way of life.
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“This increase in crime clearly affects every Aruban. Every Aruban should feel safe in their homes and on our streets. It is a national crisis and has to be solved as quickly as possible. It is not just about tourism” said the AHATA President.
“But at the same time” he continued “it is important to remember that tourism is virtually all Aruba has to support the jobs of our people and to generate the income we need. More than three out of every four jobs depends upon the spending of our visitors. With the closure of the refinery no other country in the world is as dependent upon tourism as is Aruba. We are under attack by these criminal elements and the Government has to understand this is an attack on our national security. Without tourism Aruba cannot survive. We need to get these criminals off the street before we lose our way of life.”
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I see that grace-land has already posted about this while I was waiting for the nightly timewarp to be over. But since I went to the trouble to snip and save I'm posting it.
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
12/10/2012 Awe Mainta
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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December 10, 2012, 01:24:22 AM »
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part...
Let's see how long he lasts.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 01:24:22 AM
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part...
Let's see how long he lasts.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 01:24:22 AM
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part...
Let's see how long he lasts.
My post got lost in cyber space during the timewrap!
Neither he nor Aruba will last long if the economy and crime don't improve... "Without tourism Aruba cannot survive."
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Video at link (in Spanish) Panorama TV
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/12_december/10/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_betaalde_voor_lagere_straf.xml
Google translation
RTL News | December 10, 2012, 07:15
Van der Sloot: I tried to bribe judges
Joran van der Sloot has a letter to a Peruvian television station in which he admits that he sent through his lawyer tried to bribe the judges. He would have paid $ 75,000 in exchange for a low sentence. That he was not finally.
Peruvian media received a long letter from Van der Sloot. Sources confirm to RTL News that the letter indeed Van der Sloot. In the letter he says that he never had a fair trial. Van der Sloot was in Peru sentenced to 28 years in prison for the murder of Stephany Flores.
His former lawyer Jimenez would give him prior to the lawsuit have agreed that after five years, would be released if he would confess and $ 75,000 to the judges would give. That he has done in his own words, "because he had confidence in Jimenez '. "With open mouth in astonishment," he heard the verdict, he says in his letter. He got 28 years jail.
Lawyer holding money
Van der Sloot says in his letter that Jimenez him half the money wanted to return, but the Dutchman has the lawyer angrily put aside. Van der Sloot says he has received $ 75,000 from the American Mary Hamer, who helps him. They would have copies that must prove that the money actually paid to Jimenez.
Van der Sloot is that he never had a fair trial. He wants the case re-done. He says in the letter that "the downside for the parents and friends of Stephany is that the matter will receive renewed attention. On the other hand, according to Van der Sloot finally get clarity. "That would be able to heal their wounds. I've never been able to explain what exactly happened that day and why. I have been in the process never asked a question."
In the letter, Van der Sloot also that he has even contemplated suicide. He was given the opportunity to do so on a silver platter handed.
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Well, golly gee...
He never had a chance to explain what happened and why? Yea right - just like he never had a chance to explain what happened to Natalee, either.
What a liar - he wouldn't know the truth on anything. Just a liar and a murderer.
What is keeping him from committing suicide? Who would save him from doing that? Doesn't look like Mommie Dearest is ...
Just trying to lie, cheat and steal his way out of trouble again. Daddy just didn't give him the final lesson on that, now did he?
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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