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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 30, 2008, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on May 30, 2008, 04:57:01 PM
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Aruba White pages list:
Granadillo Franklin E. Kurimiauw 5E 586-9869
Granadillo Mirto J Seroe Blanco 51 F 583-8831
Destiny...Hang on please...I think I saw an obit for a Franklin born in 1958!!!
Let me get the links and make sure!!
I think he is alive, some-one else wasn’t on the first link….I couldn’t open the second one…computer is too slow today!
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://unocaaruba.com/adt/files/bio.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGRANADILLO,%2BMelody%2Baruba%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:rJkmTFcmXWIJ:solodipueblo.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_docman%26task%3Ddoc_view%26gid%3D65+GRANADILLO,+Melody+aruba&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
Thanks Mum...You always go the extra mile....
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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I don't think I ever heard Satish's middle name: "Sha Na Na"
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Quote from: wreck on May 30, 2008, 05:00:36 PM
maybe related..... maybe not ....... where has "Caps" been lately?...
What would be significant about April 25?
An anniversary? Birthday? Breakup date? Arrest date? departure date? Some significance to someone. Also, it may be that someone wants us to think they have a child and do not. (Guido?) A parent of someone who is peripherally involved, or even Anita getting her other children exposed because of what he is doing? (or keeping Pvs on the hook. Some of PVs girl friends. Wonder if that April 25 date is significant. Jack b (just thinking out loud)
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2NJSons
...C&Cs
http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/caceres617.htm
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day, whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
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Quote from: wreck on May 30, 2008, 05:08:49 PM
I don't think I ever heard Satish's middle name: "Sha Na Na"
weren't they both named Sherma? or something like that?
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 30, 2008, 05:10:14 PM
2NJSons
...C&Cs
http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/caceres617.htm
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day, whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
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Quote from: bleachedblack on May 30, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
Jamie Carrasquilia Caceres Statement 6/17/05
>>>>>SNIPPED
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. Because it is the vacation now I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I had not talked to Joran. It is possible that Joran phoned me, but I didn't answer my mobile phone because I was sleeping. I am sure that Joran did not send me any messages with his mobile phone in the night of May 30th 2005.
On May 30th 2005, approximately 06.00 hours, I woke up. I went for a run. I ran to Wendy's Palm Beach and at approximately 07.00 hours, I returned home. I do not know how many kilometers that is. After I got home I went and showered and at approximately 07.45 hours, i went to work. Between the hours of 08.00 and 17.00, I was not phoned by Joran. After I finished work I went straight home and at approximately 17.30 I arrived home. After that I didn't go out that day. According to me I wasn't phoned that day by Joran. Joran had on that day also sent messages. It is possible he gave me an "missed-call" message on my phone but I am not sure about that. I at least did not call Joran because I had no money/minutes left on my pre-paid phone so I couldn't call him. At approximately 23.00, I had to pick up my father where he works. My dad works at the Wyndham Hotel. After I picked up my father from work we drove home. At approximately 23.20, we arrived home and I immediately went to sleep/bed.
On May 31th 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up and approximately 06.00 hours, I went and ran the same route.
On June 1st 2005, approximately 05.45 hours, I woke up. I did not go for a run that day. I stayed and watch sport news on TV. Approximately 07.45 hours, I left for work again and at approximately 17.30 hours that day, I returned home. According to me I stayed home again that day.
I do not remember with certainty what day it was or what time it was, when Joran called me on my mobile phone. Joran asked me whether I could remember that one day he had asked me to go out together with a few American girls. Joran told me that the girl that had gone out with him had gone missing now and that Deepak, Satish and he dropped off the girl at the "Holiday Inn Hotel". Joran said that he would talk to me about it later. I answered Joran that that was fine. (With Joran, Deepak and Satish is meant the suspects "Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT", "Deepak Sharma KALPOE" and "Satish Shanaa KALPOE; comment Croes).
Thanks, BB....my point was that he planned on CnC's earlier that evening...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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Quote from: MumInOhio on May 30, 2008, 05:10:14 PM
2NJSons
...C&Cs
http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/police_documents/caceres617.htm
On May 29th 2005, between the hours of 16.00 and 19.00, I was called by Joran on my mobile phone with the phone number "*******". Sometimes Joran calls me on the mobile phone of my sister, her name is "Maria del Pilar CARRASQUIXIA CACERES". Her calling name is "Pilar". The mobile phone number of Pilar is "*******". The mobile phone number of Joran is "*******". Joran had asked me whether I wanted to go out with him that night. He told me that a few American girls would go to "Carlos & Charlies" and whether I wanted to meet up with him there. According to me I had said to Joran that I would let him know later that day, whether or not I would go out with him that night. I had also said to Joran that I had to work the next day. According to me I was phoned later that day by Joran again but I hadn't answered my mobile phone. I temporarily work in "Caribbean Overseas". I work in the big Poolkasten. On May 29th 2005 I stayed home and slept. I went to bed at approximately 22.00 hours.
thanks, Mum....think I have to leave soon..dang.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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Jamie C.
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I don't think Jamie said Joran asked him to hold something or keep something...it was someone else that made that statement...when I have time..I will look again...I don't want to be accused of misquoting Jaime...no way.
Something like...did you hear or know or whatever that Joran gave Jaime something to hold for him? That is what I remember...but then it has been 3 years. And as Jackb told me today...I am wrong on this one...so who knows.
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very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:
Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.
they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html
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Quote from: klaasend on May 30, 2008, 03:43:56 PM
Good point of Pita's at BFN:
Quote from: PITA on May 30, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Hmmm....I'm thinking this is the second statement taken from Joran on May 31, 2005 . Perhaps a cover for the torn up PV of the same date Beth saw on Jacob's desk?!
I agree.
There was not a May 31, 2005 to give the Security Guard's attorneys or the Kalpoe's attorney. The spokesperson for the prosecutor implied the reason was that their clients were not implicated in Joran statement.
That was a lie
... Deepak, Satish and the Security Guards are all implicated in this recently revealed statement.
Proof that the Prosecutors Office was in on the coverup.
John Q. Kelly stated that he had seen ALL the statements but ... there were no witness statements given by Joran. The first statement was his June 9, 2005 suspect statement.
Why was Joran's May 31, 2005 witness statement never revealed or ... was it destroyed and another has now been created.
Something is not right.
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here an article about the upcoming Renee Giele documentary.
i'll do a full translation later.
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On 30 May it is exactly three years ago Natalee Holloway without a trace disappeared on Aruba. The disappearance of this American has got an unprecedented media attention since then. According to the Curaçao film maker Renée Gielen the entire investigation team in the Holloway case is suffering from tunnel vision.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080530_gielen-holloway
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2NJ wrote;
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Thanks, BB....my point was that he planned on CnC's earlier that evening...
Yep that was why I posted Jamie's statement, sure seems like they had plans fairly early on that eve.
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Quote from: caesu on May 30, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:
Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.
they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html
well, (1) "manufactured 3 years ago" part is when they WOULD have been manufactured!! (2)We have enough pictures of Joran wearing K-swiss to determine a match or not. (3) Aruban OM -- enough said.
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Posted on the front page of SM (this poster appears to be posting from the NL):
AP wrote:
He will get his punishment….
Nobody in Holland believes he is innocent…
Give it time, the truth will come out…
Then let him suffer in a USA cell….
He is Dutch, he is a dumb killer….and we hate him…
May 30, 3:35 PM
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Quote from: caesu on May 30, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:
Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.
they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html
Sorry I can't read what is posted at the link you provided, nor can I read where that info is from. Could you please tell me ?
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Quote from: caesu on May 30, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:
Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.
they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html
Not that I don't believe this but just WHO is reporting it?
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Quote from: wreck on May 30, 2008, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: caesu on May 30, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
very busy in this thread. i can't keep up with everything.
so this is maybe old news:
Aruban OM says the shoes are NOT of JvdS.
they are of the same type.
but they are ladies shoes. and they were manifactured 3 years ago.
and they are not JvdS size.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/93217/-%5Bupd%5D-Jorans-verdwenen-gympen-gevonden?.html
well, (1) "manufactured 3 years ago" part is when they WOULD have been manufactured!! (2)We have enough pictures of Joran wearing K-swiss to determine a match or not. (3) Aruban OM -- enough said.
yes, depends of course for how long JvdS was wearing them.
a bit of an easy dismissal from the Aruban OM.
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OT here, but if you can mark BODY FOUND in missing persons for
Officials search for missing diver near Little Gasparilla Island
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=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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