Natalee Case Discussion #761 6/26 - 6/30/08

[klaasend]

klaas are the first shango posts stiil on SM ?

There is a separate thread for Simian/Shango Posts.  I don't know if this is all of them. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=281.0

San 

I think Johan wants to see the posts for himself.  They could have been copied wrong or altered (I know the ones I copied weren't but you know what I mean).  If I were Johan I'd be looking for the original posts too. 

[klaasend]

Johan - I'll help you out a bit.  Simian first started posting (before Shango) on the front page of SM under this front page post.  You can work your way forward from there:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/17/breaking-news-4th-person-arrested-in-natalee-holloway-case/

[Bearlyhere]

O/T Klaas   

I am sorry to do this to you again.  Under Brooke Bennett, I posted Greta's interview.  Could you make the 5th paragraph from the bottom bold?  I think part of that is new info (the part about a possible meet-up in the area.  This way if someone is just skimming the articles they see this.  Thanks.

Police are hoping that scanning her computer is going to shed some light on some clues as to who the person was she was communicating with. But they were -- the messages were talking about a possible meet-up in the area.

[carpe noctem]

Amigoe

[johan555]

Johan - I'll help you out a bit.  Simian first started posting (before Shango) on the front page of SM under this front page post.  You can work your way forward from there:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/17/breaking-news-4th-person-arrested-in-natalee-holloway-case/

thanks Klaas !!

[klaasend]

O/T Klaas   

I am sorry to do this to you again.  Under Brooke Bennett, I posted Greta's interview.  Could you make the 5th paragraph from the bottom bold?  I think part of that is new info (the part about a possible meet-up in the area.  This way if someone is just skimming the articles they see this.  Thanks.

Police are hoping that scanning her computer is going to shed some light on some clues as to who the person was she was communicating with. But they were -- the messages were talking about a possible meet-up in the area.

Done, no problem!

[KarmaRoundUp]

Didn't joran also say he would kick Natalee(per anita's 3 wet kisses from her spongy sporter(omg...gag me)speech to Greta)?

[always 1]

On Like.com, they have "naughty monkey shoes".  Im taking orders.

[Blonde]

Monkeys....What is the name of the Diario reporter, the one who claimed to be chasing another car in the beginning of the NH case...the reporter still works there according to another poster....TIA

Destiny

Was it this guy?

GOMEZ, Sergio  – Reporter for Diario in Columbia.  Reportedly went missing the day the partially decapitated body was found in the cemetery. 

The reporter they were talking about was Hubert Tiel. Dan Reihl was on Fox (a Saturday night - I was watching) when they switched to a live phone call from him on the air. Nothing was ever mentioned of this again - no explanation. Tiel still works for Diario supposedly. This is the first ever I've heard of this Sergio Gomez -- but it IS interesting!!!

Is this Hubert Tiel

[johan555]

Is there a office proofing tool for Papiamento ?

[Blonde]

My question of the day is:

Where in the USA did Nelson Oduber's son attend college? 

He has three sons what one.

[klaasend]

Is there a office proofing tool for Papiamento ?

This is all I got for Pap:

http://www.donamaro.nl/papiamentu/index.php?pAction=tradusi

[WhiskeyGirl]

Just a quick note...

I did not find anything (other than SM links) that suggest the name Aruba is Arawak for 'slit', 'opening', or 'anus'.  I must not have the same dictionary that is available to others.   It must be on a secret thread.  imho

Aruba got its name from oro huba, which is a Spanish phrase meaning there was gold. But since no gold was found by the Spanish people, they thought that the island has no value at all. Some believers claim that the island got its name from oruba, an Indian word which meant well placed. Another possibility is the word ora and oubao which means shell and island respectively.



Everytime they tried to find gold, this nutty ol' b.,

holding a baby in her arms,

would jump on their donkeys with them... and try to tell them she knows where

they could find it in a crackhouse! They finally threw Broomhilda Renfro down

a bottomless pit, and shipped off for Venezeula... but Renfro's relatives continue breeding

on ONE VALUELESS ISLAND to this day. This stuff has been going on for

centuries!!!

Thank you for clearing that up.  "Anus" must be a contemporary word associated with the island.   

[texasmom]

AGAIN...

I find San's observation really interesting about Joran's recent admissions in Patrick's

book.

Joran says: I would kick a guy who is harming a girl.


Joran himself made the hub-bub about the shoes... and he did it from the get.

Patrick told him how incredibly stupid that was. Joran knows how stupid it was,

but with Joran's lack of brain, panic, and big mouth... it was probably too late to reel

that information back in.


So, he prefers to fight with his feet. He just told the world that in Pat's book.


He is a soccer player, they are all about the feet.


I wonder if Paulus ever enrolled 'DILBERT' in any martial arts self-defense

training programs...

like Tae Kwon Do, Jujitsu, and the like?


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This kid is a real psych project, huh? Where is Dr. Timothy Leary when ya need him? LOL

Oh yeah, J-BO left him at the beach! RRRRRRRight.

Does anyone remember one of Joran's blog pages making reference to his being a kickboxing fan?  I think I remember reading this somewhere, but I can't find anything on it yet.

[WhiskeyGirl]

Hey Wreck,

You are probably right on the money about that!


... he could at least be a WHITE BELT in Karate, though. It comes with the Gi !!!

Maybe self-defense classes were combined with yoga, meditation, or anger management classes?

Maybe offered at the athletic club?  Part of the ISA program?  Any friends have self-defense interests that were made public? 

[Blonde]

My question of the day is:

Where in the USA did Nelson Oduber's son attend college? 

He has three sons what one.

Nelson Oduber whose son works for the AHATA:I don't know his name.
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Nelson graduated in 2004 from a Bacholors degree in economics from the Erasmus University of Rotterdam. He must therefor have been living in the Netherlands for several years, although he did to an internship of tourism at the Aruban Travel Agency's Fort Lauderdale (Florida) office in 2003. And some media say he still works there so he is not really a prime suspect for friendship with the gang on Aruba (much older, better educated and moving in different circles, maybe even in a different country).

Danguillaume Oduber graduated in july 2005 from the Erasmus University in Rotterdam, he too got a bacholors degree in Economics from the same institute. Danguillaume Oduber therefor must have lived in Rotterdam for the past few years.

[johan555]

Shango suggesting his possible involvement with officials.  I bet Shango is an insider to the case .

Here some Shango quotes from the first 40 posts :

The P.M. will not ever allow the U.S. full participation, and the truth stays hidden.

The Arubans need to question DJ Croes again. He was released way too soon.

The Americans and the volunteers looked in all the wrong places.

Why didn t the Dutch officials use the initial FBI agents more? If they had, this would be closer to being solved!



It is hard to navigate the web of Dutch corruption, but the Aruban s inside source would destroy the island s reputation.
A lot of casinos would close because the tourism from the U.S. would stop for a very long time.

The Arubans do not like interference from the Netherlands (like the Dutch marines).
Everyone knows there are lies upon lies. The economy will be ruined and there will be tension between Aruba and the Netherlands.
 Light the fires!

The P.M. will remove van Der Straaten soon, but a trial is needed.

The P.M. will not ever allow the U.S. full participation, and the truth stays hidden.

The Aruban officials hold the boys (Joren and the Kalpoes). Van Der Straaten can destroy the Arubans and the corrupt Dutch officials.

[Lala'sMom]

Caps site was removed by his own choosing.

I am looking for the son that Dave mentioned in his book as having been in college at the time Natalee disappeared.  Don't know which one.

[texasmom]

From Blonde's post:

Danguillaume Oduber graduated in july 2005 from the Erasmus University in Rotterdam

[LilPuma]

I just went to the bottom of the page on the SM Discussion page and it showed 92 guests.  Either that's wrong, or something's going on and everyone's coming here to see what's being said.