Caylee Marie Anthony # 147 9/13/09 - 9/30/09

[no rose colored glasses]

Good morning, monkeys.  I hate this type of news, whether it has any real bearing on the case or not, I just know the defense will try to make hay out of it.   

It is a field day for them, they will take this and run 

[tupelohoney]

Good Morning!   

I am half asleep and have had no coffee yet. But in reference to the sticker, did I not remember Dr G was the one that discovered the outline of the sticker on the duct tape she removed from Caylee's skull, and even returned to the scene while the bones were still gathered to look for the sticker? Surely there were numerous pictures taken by her and her morgue workers during that part of the autopsy, as she is very thorough. I will drink some coffee and try to be a little more coherent.

I'm not sure, but I seem to remember some lab that saw the heart shaped residue and contacted LE to look for a sticker at the crime scene. Like you, I am sleepy as I was up late last night, but I will look for the document that stated this.

Good Morning to all Monkeys!!   Does anyone else feel like today will be a doc dump day?

[tupelohoney]

Good morning, monkeys.  I hate this type of news, whether it has any real bearing on the case or not, I just know the defense will try to make hay out of it.   

It is a field day for them, they will take this and run 

ITA, but they won't be able to run too far as they will trip and fall flat on their faces. IMO, there is just too much solid evidence in hand.

[tupelohoney]

I'm still looking for the actual doc, but did find this in a new article:

 When investigators processed the duct tape at an FBI lab in Quantico, Va., they noticed the residue of a heart-shaped sticker on it. The sticker was later found near where the toddler's remains were discovered.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/22/nation/na-caylee22

[tupelohoney]

I'm still looking for the actual doc, but did find this in a new article:

 When investigators processed the duct tape at an FBI lab in Quantico, Va., they noticed the residue of a heart-shaped sticker on it. The sticker was later found near where the toddler's remains were discovered.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/22/nation/na-caylee22

Here is the actual document....page 15, paragraph 9.    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530424/detail.html

[cherjers]

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     
[/quote  why no pictures --this is so STUPID-the fbi must have know there was a possiblity it could have been destroyed-well dont worry monkeys-she will fry- by her own word the tapes and jailhouse calls and if that does not do BOZO will finish the job-as soon as him opens his mouth she is done for

[trimmonthelake]

Good Morning!   

I am half asleep and have had no coffee yet. But in reference to the sticker, did I not remember Dr G was the one that discovered the outline of the sticker on the duct tape she removed from Caylee's skull, and even returned to the scene while the bones were still gathered to look for the sticker? Surely there were numerous pictures taken by her and her morgue workers during that part of the autopsy, as she is very thorough. I will drink some coffee and try to be a little more coherent.

I'm not sure, but I seem to remember some lab that saw the heart shaped residue and contacted LE to look for a sticker at the crime scene. Like you, I am sleepy as I was up late last night, but I will look for the document that stated this.

Good Morning to all Monkeys!!   Does anyone else feel like today will be a doc dump day?

Good Morning.I hope we get something.   

[cherjers]

 when do you smart moneys think we will get to see Lee statement concerning Sin Sin taking money--We all need some thing good to read   Has anyone heard if the media  tried for interviews from Sin Sin brother Rick-Oh i would love that-as far as I am concerned pay the man

[tupelohoney]

Does anyone else feel that Bozo leaked this latest find to Pipitone?

[Jesse]

Does anyone else feel that Bozo leaked this latest find to Pipitone?
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i was just thinking the same thing, how would they get it before it was released....more tainting the jury

[CasuallyCool]

I thought we're due for a doc dump.

On n'apprend pas aux vieux singes à faire des grimaces.     

[Western Observr]

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     
[/quote  why no pictures --this is so STUPID-the fbi must have know there was a possiblity it could have been destroyed-well dont worry monkeys-she will fry- by her own word the tapes and jailhouse calls and if that does not do BOZO will finish the job-as soon as him opens his mouth she is done for

We still have laundry bag, duct tape, Winnie the Pooh blanket, chemical composition of air in her car.... etc etc

[karenmamo]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21104174/detail.html
Docs Show Caylee Evidence Destroyed
Fingerprint Test Apparently Destroyed Evidence Of Heart Sticker On Duct
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Thursday, September 24, 2009
UPDATED: 6:32 am EDT September 25, 2009
[Caylee Marie Anthony.]
Caylee Marie Anthony.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- It was one of the most jaw-dropping, heart-rending disclosures in the case against accused child killer Casey Anthony: that someone intentionally placed a heart-shaped sticker on the duct tape that was wrapped around her daughter Caylee's skull.
The claim was based on a fingerprint examiner at the Federal Bureau of Investigation laboratory reporting that she saw the shape or outline of a heart on the duct tape.

But Local 6 has learned no one else will ever see what that examiner saw because all traces of it were destroyed by testing at the FBI lab.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office cited that report in obtaining a search warrant for arts and crafts materials in the Anthony family home, swearing the FBI lab "noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears the sticker was put on the tape intentionally."

The search warrant was approved, and detectives recovered dozens of heart stickers and the empty backings for heart stickers from the Anthony home during the search on Dec. 20, 2008, nine days after Caylee's body was found dumped in nearby woods.

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.

Some evidence photos have been withheld from public release, so it is not known if any other agency took photos that show an outline of a heart on the tape. But there has been no mention of other such photos in any of the discovery released so far.

Without such an image, a jury will never get to see exactly what was on the duct tape and the size of the outline of the heart cannot be exactly compared to the stickers recovered.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder, child abuse and other crimes in connection with the murder of Caylee, who was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Caylee's remains were found in December. Casey Anthony faces a possible death penalty if convicted.
The disclosure that potential evidence was destroyed comes in a document turned over to the defense but not yet released by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office, which has made public 8,000 pages of discovery in the criminal case.

Page 9316 of the discovery, obtained by Local 6 before its official release, is a handwritten FBI Laboratory Activity and Communication Log. In it, FBI lab request coordinator Erin P. Martin makes notes of conversations between FBI agents in the field and the lab in Quantico, Va.

On Dec. 13, two days after the body was found, she describes how Elizabeth K. Fontaine, a forensic examiner in the lab's latent print operations unit, noticed "a heart shape/outline" on the duct tape, but was "unable to see it after powder process." That process is used to lift any fingerprints from materials. No such prints were found on the tape, according to previously released FBI lab reports.

But the presence of a heart shape on the tape begs an obvious question: Did the FBI lab photograph the outline of the heart before it was apparently obliterated by the powder process?

Martin answers the question with her next notation: "No photo of image."

But agents assisting the sheriff's office at the crime scene were clearly intrigued.

Two days later, on Dec. 15, 2008, Martin logs a call from an FBI evidence response team agent working in Orlando: "Agent wanted to know if TEU (the lab's trace evidence unit) saw anything on tape." Martin apparently checks and writes next: "Per TEU: No, didn't see any heart-shaped item."

She then checks again with the latent print unit and writes: "Shape/outline was … near end on non-adh(esive) side."

And that's the last mention of the heart shape in the five-page FBI communication log, which ends on Dec. 22, 2008.
While a jury will apparently never see the image that Fontaine reported seeing, prosecutors could seek to introduce testimony at trial about the shape or outline of a heart on the duct tape.

The warrant shows investigators clearly tried to tie any heart stickers found in the Anthony home to the reported shape on the duct tape and another heart sticker found in the woods near Caylee's body. The warrant notes "in the search area investigators located a small heart-shaped sticker similar in size to the residue found on the duct tape."

But the sticker found in the woods was 30 to 40 feet away from where Caylee's skull was found, and it was affixed to cardboard. Also, Local 6 compared it to the heart stickers and sticker sheets found in the Anthony home and found it was not an exact match to any of those photographed and released so far in discovery to the public.

Local 6 left a message with FBI fingerprint analyst Fontaine, asking why she did not take a photo of the image before conducting the powder test that apparently destroyed any trace of it. The phone call has not been returned.

How could the FBI have foked up so royally? on something as important as this...geeze !!

[jen3560]

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21104174/detail.html

But the sticker found in the woods was 30 to 40 feet away from where Caylee's skull was found, and it was affixed to cardboard. Also, Local 6 compared it to the heart stickers and sticker sheets found in the Anthony home and found it was not an exact match to any of those photographed and released so far in discovery to the public.

[Western Observr]

From what I am reading on Hal Boedeker's page this morning, this reporter Pipitone is not well regarded locally- the equivalent of Maury Povich or Jerry Springer according to one poster.... so who knows if it is true as yet...   

[Fanny Mae]

I thought we're due for a doc dump.

On n'apprend pas aux vieux singes à faire des grimaces.     

OK, I looked this up: #1 "You can't teach your grandma to suck eggs."

#2 "You can't teach an old dog new tricks"

#3"You can't teach an old monkey new faces."

Now which is it?????

[tupelohoney]

Does anyone else feel that Bozo leaked this latest find to Pipitone?
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i was just thinking the same thing, how would they get it before it was released....more tainting the jury

The more I think about all of this, the more I feel that there IS documented evidence of this sticker residue, and Bozo knows it and since the State is not releasing the goods to the public, this is his shot for tainting the jury.

I find it real hard to believe that no soil or some sort of residue wasn't stuck to the adhesive left by the sticker. I know that Caylee's skull was found in a bag, somewhat protected, but animals did get in there (animal hair?) and there had to be something stuck to that adhesive, it just couldn't be virtually untouched.

Dr. G had to have taken pictures of everything, and I feel there is photos of this tape that shows something is in that area.  Bozo's tactics are once again futile.  JMO

[SunnyinTX]

Good Morning Monks old and new!!  I wouldn't condemn the FBI  just yet

 Besides a match to the sticker was not found at the A's house. IMO this is minor and whoever suggested that BOZO et al leaked it was probably correct. BOZO and crew are, IMO, trying to throw out crap and hope some sticks!  This leak is very convenient

[tupelohoney]

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21104174/detail.html

But the sticker found in the woods was 30 to 40 feet away from where Caylee's skull was found, and it was affixed to cardboard. Also, Local 6 compared it to the heart stickers and sticker sheets found in the Anthony home and found it was not an exact match to any of those photographed and released so far in discovery to the public.

This sticker that was found and the info released to the public, can not be the sticker that was on the duct tape, IMO. The adhesive is on the duct tape so how could the sticker be stuck on a piece of cardboard? Not realistic......but that does not mean that another sticker wasn't found at the crime scene....one that did fit the adhesive on the duct tape. Again, MOO

[Scatty]

But Local 6 has obtained a report from the FBI laboratory that reveals all traces of such a shape on the duct tape were destroyed by the FBI lab during a fingerprint-testing process and no photograph of the outline of a heart was taken by the FBI before all traces of it were obliterated.     

What have we been looking at all these months- a red heart sticker- where did that image come from?

I have to say I'm very confused, and I'm sure the ME took a picture, no, or am I way off base thinking that 

No, you are right. I KNOW I've seen pictures of the duct tape with just the outline of the heart on it. It came out with one of the doc dumps. So there obviously is a picture in the custody of the prosecution. And as for the destroying of the actual outline, I think the FBI had a choice: keep it intact to go with the visual impact, or try to get a fingerprint off it since that would be the most likely spot to get one. I think they made the right choice even if the outline was destroyed in the process. Especially since there definitely is already a picture of the outline already in evidence with some other agency.