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« Reply #1840 on: March 11, 2010, 01:01:49 AM »

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

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« Reply #1841 on: March 11, 2010, 02:05:17 AM »

As many of you know, I live in San Diego county...and San Diego county has had a horrible time with the disappearance of Amber Debois (14) and Chelsea King (17). Chelsea was abducted, raped and murdered by JAG on Thursday, Feb 25, 2010, Jag is now in custody...and Amber has been missing for 13 months prior to the discovery of Chelsea's body shortly after her rape/murder by JAG...within days of the arrest of JAG, Amber's remains were found....although LE's aren't naming JAG as the culprit..he is a prime person of interest......
The community is suffering big time....wondering how a person with the record JAG has over the last ten years could even be out of jail for previous sexual convictions...JAG will get the death penalty.. the community will recover somewhat... with a huge hole in our hearts for Amber and Chelsea...without diminishing the memories of Amber and Chelsea...... California, and hopefully the nation will enact laws furthering the restrictions and incarcerations of first time sexually predators that continue to be a menace to our children....
Bad things happen to good people/children.....the strength/courage/citizenship of a community and the people that inhabit it  are defined  when bad things happen..by the way the community responds....
aruba.....perps....cover up crew....american traitors......hell awaits you.......ask paulass.....he now knows....   
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« Reply #1842 on: March 11, 2010, 02:07:37 AM »

Good Night Good Monkeys...
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner.....
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« Reply #1843 on: March 11, 2010, 11:05:58 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/09/AR2010030903510.html

Forging bonds of sisterhood


By Sholnn Freeman
Thursday, March 11, 2010; LZ18

Stephanie Murray used to be one of the mean girls you see in movies about high school.

"I was mean and popular," said Stephanie, a senior at Dominion High School in Sterling. "I had major attitude problems. I didn't listen to anybody. I didn't really care."

Last year, Stephanie discovered the after-school girls club IRIS, which stands for Instilling Responsible Ideals Through Sisterhood.

For Stephanie, the activities, the "bonding trips" and the principles behind IRIS have brought her closer to girls she didn't know in her early, clique-centered high school days.

"My teachers and my principal will tell you that I've improved so much since my freshman year of high school," Stephanie said. "I'm more caring. I think of all the girls in IRIS as my sisters. I care for them as my sisters. I protect them as my sisters. If they ever need me, I will be here, because they are my sisters."

IRIS teaches real-life lessons that the young women weren't receiving in the classroom, said Jennifer Rutkowski, the Loudoun County parks and recreation teen specialist, who created the organization. IRIS, which started as a pilot program at Dominion, spread to Potomac Falls and Broad Run high schools this year.

IRIS tackles subjects as varied as Internet safety and cooking, and it offers field trips and bonding activities such as mother-daughter brunches and self-esteem-building workshops.

Now, the students are taking on their largest project yet: Girls Night Out. The event, scheduled for 4 to 6 p.m. Saturday at Dominion, is open to female high school students throughout the county.

"We're taking the IRIS program and blowing it up times 10 so others can experience it," Rutkowski said.

The program will feature breakout sessions on self-defense, nutrition, health, beauty and fashion. Advance tickets are $5; at the door, $7.

The keynote speaker will be Beth Holloway, who will talk about the disappearance of her daughter Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years ago. Natalee, who had just graduated from high school, was visiting Aruba on her senior trip when she disappeared. The case remains unsolved.

After Holloway's speech, actor and feminist Ben Atherton-Zeman will perform a one-man play. Atherton-Zeman is a spokesman for the National Organization for Men Against Sexism. He uses humor and celebrity impressions to educate audiences about sexual violence, dating violence and rape.

"Most people have a stereotype that a rapist is a stranger hiding in the bush with a knife," said Atherton-Zeman, speaking from his home near Boston. "But it's mostly someone you trust."

He said that rapists typically use the power of persuasion and alcohol and that victims tend to blame themselves.

"The play dispels some of the common myths that people associate with sexual violence," he said.

Atherton-Zeman said he would also cover topics such as sexism, jealousy and overly controlling boyfriends.

Other speakers will include Ed Ryan, a coordinator from Loudoun's Gang Response Intervention Team, Deputy James Spurlock from the Sheriff's Office and George Price from Kingdom Security.

Eva Chen, Teen Vogue's beauty and health director, will talk about self-esteem, nutrition and empowerment "as well as mascara and lip gloss," according to the program.

Rutkowski said local vendors will be on hand with exhibits, raffles and prizes such as discounted haircuts, nail sessions and flowers.

About 300 students are expected to attend, along with some mothers.

Thank Klaas.

The Natalee Holloway case was solved very early on by those within the investigation.  However ... it was determined that Aruban justice would not prevail.

 

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"What I can do is hopefully share some life lessons and prevent this tragedy from happening to another family.  So I stay focused on what I can do rather than what I can’t.  I can’t get justice for Natalee".
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56293


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« Reply #1844 on: March 11, 2010, 12:25:49 PM »

Speaking of Pitbull, didn't those people get a couple of years in jail for the alleged abuse of his corpse and not just six months as has been suggested in the case of Joran?

Hi Anna,

This question re. Pitbull's "corpse abusers" sent me way back into the Murder & Crime thread. I am certain that I posted the sentencing in that case. I just don't have the time to find it, mainly because --

-- I got into reading several pages of that thread, and I just can't keep that up right now!

But My Badness, what a thread! What amazing reading! What a piece of work by some great monkeys!

For quite a spell, I felt that keeping up the M&C thread, and writing letters occasionally, was an actual contribution that I could make on Natalee's behalf.

Then I hit a series of personal issues, including the difficult death of my only sibling, followed by a serious health problem of my own. I was out of the loop on life in general for a prolonged period.

When I finally got back to Scared Monkeys, I was so relieved that texasmom had stepped up to the plate, wielding the old bat de baseball in my stead.

And of course I noted today that the M&C thread now has 121 pages, and 183,647 page views.

I don't know how that compares to the rest of the site. But 183K pages views is a WHOLE LOT of reading going on.

Have a great day, monkeys!
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« Reply #1845 on: March 11, 2010, 01:13:20 PM »

Aruba Amigoe News:

Significantly fewer cruise tourists
March 11, 2010
   

ORANGE CITY - Compared to last year in the first two months of the year less than 10,000 passengers arrived by cruise tourism. This Aruba Cruise Tourism Authority (ACTA) announced.

In total this year to March 95 cruise ships at the port of Oranjestad. The first two months of this year almost 170,000 cruise passengers visited the island. In February were not less than 44 cruise ships at the port of Oranjestad. On board were nearly 80,000 passengers and more than 30,000 crew. Last year in February there were over 83,000 passengers and 34,000 crew.
ACTA is optimistic. The return of Carnival Cruise Lines has sixteen calls during the peak season from October 2010 to March 2010, according to the cruise authority a "strong indication" that Aruba is a popular cruise destination. The objective is to 2011 as many calls to get year round. With four to five additional calls per month low season between May and September illuminated.


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 Aruba, nobody wants to go to an island with the gang raping murdering Van der sloot and Kalpoe families still on the loose! Maybe it will take another 5 years to grasp this concept?

It is much like the Baby-Ruth candy bar floating in the swimming pool scene from the movie Caddy Shack with Bill Murray. MASS EXODUS!!!!
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« Reply #1846 on: March 11, 2010, 01:21:07 PM »

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« Reply #1847 on: March 11, 2010, 01:52:25 PM »

Aruba, LEAVE THE DRIVING TO US!









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« Reply #1848 on: March 11, 2010, 02:04:20 PM »

Carpe - I loved that movie!!!!!


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« Reply #1849 on: March 11, 2010, 02:16:01 PM »

I haven't been able to post an empty Bucuti Cam zoom in a while.  When I check it's always got a crew posing....I just found the following and have to say I usually try to watch Ellen's show but don't always get to do so...as someone posted a while back, they must be busy hustling to get bodies to stand out there every morning.  (This must have been this past Sunday's shot...I'll have to go back and check it out, now)



Bucuti Helps Ellen Degeneres in World Domination
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More than 30 guests of Bucuti Beach Resort turned out yesterday to support American talk show host Ellen Degeneres’ quest to achieve world domination. Ellen’s 2010 New Year’s resolution is for her show to be broadcast in as many countries as possible, and to demonstrate her global appeal, she has asked fans to take their photo with a cut-out of her face at different locations around the world. The Bucuti Cam, which takes photos of guests each morning to be posted online, captured some amusing images that have been shared with Ellen and her fans on the show’s Facebook page.

http://www.aruba.com/news/arts-culture/bucuti-helps-ellen-degeneres-in-world-domination/
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« Reply #1850 on: March 11, 2010, 02:20:42 PM »

That pic is not in the Bucuti Beach Cam archives....Fixed!!!   
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« Reply #1851 on: March 11, 2010, 02:30:17 PM »

http://www.diario.aw/2010/03/eddie-briezen-lo-ser-investiga-pa-lands-recherche-riba-instruccion-di-ministerio-publico/



eddie briezen will being investiga for lands recherche on instruccion of ministerio publico

publication: diahuebs, 11 march 2010. categoria:

general holoshi owing to cuminsa march for ex minister…

oranjestad (aan): for of good fountain in we apparatus of husticia daily paper have informacion cu ex minister eddie briezen is bao investigacion. the caso cu is being investiga is relaciona cu the contrato cu past owing to company for aruba music festival cu is costa aruba miyones of dollar. at aruba hour cu do you close one contrato always are you using one suma maximo. in the contrato doubtful y cu date false the ex mandatario the place cu the suma have to is minimo 850 thousand dollar for year. is con eddie briezen can owing to mara country aruba in one contrato so? one contrato cu in 2009 past owing to company false bao of one date of 2008. this is cosnan cu the instant here ministerio publico owing to give instruccion at lands recherché for investiga. the fountain in husticia of aruba owing to follow splica daily paper cu the ex mandatario owing to bad using his funcion also. past owing to company because; minister of turism cu the are of aruba music festival, but in ausencia of minister of finanzas the time ey is netamente eddie briesen is his reemplazante. past owing to probecha ausencia of his colega y owing to core company the contrato also because; the sucesor of nilo swaen the time ey. the self was corumpi because; minister wardando his coleganan bay for her haci y deshaci cu the contrato of aruba music festival. after cu ministerio publico owing to ask one investigacion the first resultadonan is show cu penalmente can investiga the ex mandatario of turism in the caso here. hour the investigacion here termina y cu eddie briezen is culpable the will have to bay pay also back at country aruba the coin cu owing to being using of people for her contrato fraudulento here. behold self not was have nothing of tell in the actividad here. sinembargo the ex mandatario was using if the fondonan owing to base of presupuesto of turism. now cu lands recherché owing to cuminsa investiga will is important for know if the mandatario actual have to bay haci cualkier denuncia for her caso cuminsa march. also have to bay see if will calling esnan of behold or the mandatario actual of turism for bay trece cierto aclaracion in the caso of fraude cu eddie briezen will achieve his self confronta cune because; one sospechoso proximamente. is good self cu gobierno owing to break the contrato cu aruba music festival because if they owing to follow cune they also will is complice of the contrato corupto cu eddie briezen owing to close.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1852 on: March 11, 2010, 02:32:14 PM »

That pic is not in the Bucuti Beach Cam archives....Fixed!!!   

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1853 on: March 11, 2010, 02:42:34 PM »

Speaking of Pitbull, didn't those people get a couple of years in jail for the alleged abuse of his corpse and not just six months as has been suggested in the case of Joran?

Hi Anna,

This question re. Pitbull's "corpse abusers" sent me way back into the Murder & Crime thread. I am certain that I posted the sentencing in that case. I just don't have the time to find it, mainly because --

-- I got into reading several pages of that thread, and I just can't keep that up right now!

But My Badness, what a thread! What amazing reading! What a piece of work by some great monkeys!

For quite a spell, I felt that keeping up the M&C thread, and writing letters occasionally, was an actual contribution that I could make on Natalee's behalf.

Then I hit a series of personal issues, including the difficult death of my only sibling, followed by a serious health problem of my own. I was out of the loop on life in general for a prolonged period.

When I finally got back to Scared Monkeys, I was so relieved that texasmom had stepped up to the plate, wielding the old bat de baseball in my stead.

And of course I noted today that the M&C thread now has 121 pages, and 183,647 page views.

I don't know how that compares to the rest of the site. But 183K pages views is a WHOLE LOT of reading going on.

Have a great day, monkeys!

It's been really nice seeing you here more lately MsMarple!   

I have some articles collected that I haven't posted yet in the M & C, and I'll get those posted in the next day or two.  If you are able and want to start posting over there again, please feel free to do that!  You have done an awesome job over there, I still many times end up reading page after page that you and others have contributed.  It does take a lot of time and again I'm a bit behind, since there's been some things going on over here.  But I do hope to be caught up soon.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1854 on: March 11, 2010, 02:43:13 PM »

Hi Monks!  sorry for the O/T...2NJ, clean up in Caylee's thread, pg 62, my post # 1235....please delete it so it is not misleading.....TIA

I'm not 2NJ, but I've fixed it, per your request.  MB
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« Reply #1855 on: March 11, 2010, 02:49:43 PM »

I would love to see Eddie Briezen go down.    He is one of the sleeziest of the sleezy Arubans.  IMO
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« Reply #1856 on: March 11, 2010, 03:47:54 PM »

Why do they post pictures of dead Arubans in an open casket and then ask you to vote on the picture?


I selected GOOD, does that make me bad?





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« Reply #1857 on: March 11, 2010, 04:02:35 PM »

ARUBA - 90,000 89,995 non-raping non-murdering friends you haven`t met yet!

-1  Paulus Van der sloot eating the tennis court concrete

-3  (Sat. accident with Jerry Jerry `the drunkard` D-Berry)

-1  Yuwana Diabierna


They are dropping like flies that can speak four languages.


So very sad.  


...but like Joran the rapist, not much sleep lost over it.


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« Reply #1858 on: March 11, 2010, 04:15:43 PM »

I would love to see Eddie Briezen go down.    He is one of the sleeziest of the sleezy Arubans.  IMO

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« Reply #1859 on: March 11, 2010, 04:23:20 PM »

I would love to see Eddie Briezen go down.    He is one of the sleeziest of the sleezy Arubans.  IMO

me too... ALL of my dreams are coming true 

It`s that little dirty pimp mustache that he wears... that should be a huge tip-off.
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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