Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 - 6/17/10

[MisGivings]

A thought:  IF Beth went to Peru yesterday, could she possibly have met with the Flores family and told them she would be alright with it if Joran spent the rest of his life in prison.  Intriguing that it was only today that we hear that the Flores family is asking for Joran to be sentenced to life in prison.

I am sure Senor Flores is calling in all his favors now. He has been friends and very supportive of the Peruvian LE. He will make sure Joran never sees daylight again, and that he will rot in that Peruvian Hell hole.

[nonesuche]

Cuomo is putting out teasers on twitter (with photo) regarding a mystery female who may have been one of the last to speak to Joran? expecting he means on Aruba......

http://twitpic.com/1wzhtv

[darleenofalabama]

Good morning, Y'all.

Good for Peru on the fingerprint by the signature thing; although a handwriting expert could validate his signature, the fingerprint is a great idea. It's almost like they know his mentality and are prepared for it. 

That John Ludwig and his friends are idiots, and may even end up with an FBI file on them after this.  And what a "hotshot" screen shot by Rob.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Cuomo is putting out teasers on twitter (with photo) regarding a mystery female who may have been one of the last to speak to Joran? expecting he means on Aruba......

http://twitpic.com/1wzhtv

First glance....Aline?

[SunnyinTX]

Cuomo is putting out teasers on twitter (with photo) regarding a mystery female who may have been one of the last to speak to Joran? expecting he means on Aruba......

http://twitpic.com/1wzhtv

the teaser yesterday was a journal.....wonder when we will see that??

[mojo]

this lawyer Nawazaki is the same guy that defended Alberto Fujimori  -- the Peruvians must love him...lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Fujimori's_arrest_and_trial

[klaasend]

Cuomo is putting out teasers on twitter (with photo) regarding a mystery female who may have been one of the last to speak to Joran? expecting he means on Aruba......

http://twitpic.com/1wzhtv

My guess is it's Melody or Aline, likely Melody.

[Rob]

John Ludwick  Thanks fans!!! CNN said I did so well they asked me to come back on thursday to tape a special episode of nancy grace. Not sure if it will air friday, the weekend, or sometime. But I'll give an update when I know the date.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000463930273

Nancy must have a death wish is all I can say..........

CNN can smell stupid miles away.  They'll get him to say something he shouldn't.

I look at it like this - CNN saw a ginorous idiot and will uses this moron for all he is worth. He's too stoopid to know when he is being used.

All of his "fans" - well, lmao! and I noticed that all of the people whom he supports - i.e. - Casey, Amanda Knox, etc - are all beyond a reasonable doubt guilty. Something really wrong with this guy.

He also has that creepy Mark Carr look about him.

[Rob]

Ohhh, Hey Klaas, O/T... saw you all talkin' about the quakes last night... I don't really believe in all that prophecy mumbo jumbo, but I did see a show years ago - like 2004 / 2005 that said California was gonna get the big one at the end of 2010.

Hold on tite!

[klaasend]

Ohhh, Hey Klaas, O/T... saw you all talkin' about the quakes last night... I don't really believe in all that prophecy mumbo jumbo, but I did see a show years ago - like 2004 / 2005 that said California was gonna get the big one at the end of 2010.

Hold on tite!

They have been saying that for as long as I can remember.  About 40 years ago they said the "big one" should hit within 10 years.  They don't know. 

[seemeatthebeach]

Good morning, Y'all.

Good for Peru on the fingerprint by the signature thing; although a handwriting expert could validate his signature, the fingerprint is a great idea. It's almost like they know his mentality and are prepared for it. 

That John Ludwig and his friends are idiots, and may even end up with an FBI file on them after this.  And what a "hotshot" screen shot by Rob.

Ludwick might find himself on a no-fly list when he least expects it...maybe while in Peru visiting his BFF at Castro Castro.....LOL

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490718/2010/06/15/Uri-Geller-wilde-Joran-hypnotiseren-in-tv-show.dhtml

Through translator:

Uri Geller did Joran hypnotize in TV show
Mentalist thought Holloway case to resolve
AP PHOTO

LONDON - Mentalist Uri Geller had early this year plans to Joran van der Sloot in his SBS6 show the Uri Geller to hypnotize. Van der Sloot had to have ears, but the management of SBS was against the plan.

Geller has confirmed that he indeed had plans to hypnotize, Van der Sloot on his show. "During my live TV show" The Uri Geller in the Netherlands' I had with a producer suggested that Joran van der Sloot under hypnosis to bring the truth to try to leave. I thought then the disappearance of Natalee Holloway's finally resolved could be " said the 63-year-old mentalist.

SBS 6 was less positive about the plan. According to a spokeswoman for SBS, the plan is therefore an early shot. "SBS 6 has never had the intention with Joran van der Sloot in the sea. When the idea was to Uri Geller Joran van der Sloot to hypnotize in the Uri Geller show, we have that idea out of hand noted. "

Uri Geller has said it sees not leave on their own and tried to get in touch with Van der Sloot. Via Facebook Geller tried to arrange a meeting with Joran in a hotel room in Aruba. Joran did however learn to sit in Peru and were not able to see it come to Aruba. The two came following an agreement with Geller paid the airfare to Aruba. Besides Joran got 600 million expense (not 600 million dollars, lol) of Uri Geller.

Van der Sloot now claims, however, in a statement that he received $ 10,000 from Geller for information on "fraud on the Internet. "All allegations of Van der Sloot, extra money from me that he would have received are complete nonsense," says Geller.

Uri Geller did early this year already hinted of something great plan. Geller spoke for a while on a controversial act 'in the box would sit.

06/15/1910 1:33 p.m.

[Dragnet]

John Ludwick  Thanks fans!!! CNN said I did so well they asked me to come back on thursday to tape a special episode of nancy grace. Not sure if it will air friday, the weekend, or sometime. But I'll give an update when I know the date.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000463930273

Nancy must have a death wish is all I can say..........

CNN can smell stupid miles away.  They'll get him to say something he shouldn't.

I look at it like this - CNN saw a ginorous idiot and will uses this moron for all he is worth. He's too stoopid to know when he is being used.

All of his "fans" - well, lmao! and I noticed that all of the people whom he supports - i.e. - Casey, Amanda Knox, etc - are all beyond a reasonable doubt guilty. Something really wrong with this guy.

He also has that creepy Mark Carr look about him.

Looks like he gained almost 100 "friends" since last night.  He was at 463 when the show aired.  Hopefully his stupidity remained intact and the people he added in what he believes is his notoriety are really people just waiting for him to make some more stupid remarks.

His parents and sisters must be so proud of him, backing all of the murderers.  Did all of their FB's go private after the airing last night?

[Rob]

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490751/2010/06/15/Joran-vrijdag-voor-de-rechter.dhtml

Through translator:

Joran Friday in court

Joran van der Sloot is transferred to the prison. AFP PHOTO / Anthonis MARCEL

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot will appear Friday before the Peruvian courts. Former anti-corruption magistrate Carlos Córdova Morales will be the case. According to the news would Peru21.pe Cesar Nakazaki new lawyer be Dutch. Other sources report that the U.S. lawyer Joseph Taco Pina, who stood by Joran in the Holloway case, come to Peru.
In the coming days, the investigation surrounding the death of Stephany Flores completed. The Peruvian OM, Van der Sloot murder and robbery dependent. The judge will have to address whether Joran acted alone or, as Van der Sloot earlier, there are others involved in the case.

Simplistic
The lawyer of the family Flores is the indictment, however, to''simplistic and considers that not all questions were answered. He wants so that additional evidence be included in the support of the indictment. He thus refers to the information provided on Joran laptop was found and the testimony of casino visitors that Joran and Stephany have seen together.

Thus, since the declaration of a friend of Joran, and poker players, Erick Cabrera are not included. The court, during the first session should also indicate when the reconstruction of the murder of Stephany Flores to take place. Intrusive press and spectators prevented the reconstruction last week.

Córdova will also judge the confrontation between Joran and the three taxi drivers, who took him to Chile, to initiate. According to Van der Sloot, the three have been aware of the murder. The trio denies this however. Joran will begin the actual process to a further psychiatric examination subject. (DvdH)
06/15/1910 2:35 p.m.

[mojo]

Rob this unhealthy fixation on Joran's ....er has to stop!  did anyone else notice that Ludwick mentions he met joran after paulus death and "knew" him for about 3 1/2 months...and they were watching the Natalee Holloway movie...WTH..how sick is that?

[Rob]

Good morning, Y'all.

Good for Peru on the fingerprint by the signature thing; although a handwriting expert could validate his signature, the fingerprint is a great idea. It's almost like they know his mentality and are prepared for it. 

That John Ludwig and his friends are idiots, and may even end up with an FBI file on them after this.  And what a "hotshot" screen shot by Rob.

Ludwick might find himself on a no-fly list when he least expects it...maybe while in Peru visiting his BFF at Castro Castro.....LOL

I'm sorry, that's the last one. I couldn't help myself. < snickers >

[Rob]

Rob this unhealthy fixation on Joran's ....er has to stop!  did anyone else notice that Ludwick mentions he met joran after paulus death and "knew" him for about 3 1/2 months...and they were watching the Natalee Holloway movie...WTH..how sick is that?

Kath Drenga is probably fuming that Ludwick got to spend all that time with Joran. She's got marbles rollin' in her noggin too.

< starry eyes > lol

[crazybabyborg]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490751/2010/06/15/Joran-vrijdag-voor-de-rechter.dhtml

Through translator:

Joran Friday in court

Joran van der Sloot is transferred to the prison. AFP PHOTO / Anthonis MARCEL

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot will appear Friday before the Peruvian courts. Former anti-corruption magistrate Carlos Córdova Morales will be the case. According to the news would Peru21.pe Cesar Nakazaki new lawyer be Dutch. Other sources report that the U.S. lawyer Joseph Taco Pina, who stood by Joran in the Holloway case, come to Peru.In the coming days, the investigation surrounding the death of Stephany Flores completed. The Peruvian OM, Van der Sloot murder and robbery dependent. The judge will have to address whether Joran acted alone or, as Van der Sloot earlier, there are others involved in the case.

Simplistic
The lawyer of the family Flores is the indictment, however, to''simplistic and considers that not all questions were answered. He wants so that additional evidence be included in the support of the indictment. He thus refers to the information provided on Joran laptop was found and the testimony of casino visitors that Joran and Stephany have seen together.

Thus, since the declaration of a friend of Joran, and poker players, Erick Cabrera are not included. The court, during the first session should also indicate when the reconstruction of the murder of Stephany Flores to take place. Intrusive press and spectators prevented the reconstruction last week.

Córdova will also judge the confrontation between Joran and the three taxi drivers, who took him to Chile, to initiate. According to Van der Sloot, the three have been aware of the murder. The trio denies this however. Joran will begin the actual process to a further psychiatric examination subject. (DvdH)
06/15/1910 2:35 p.m.

Is that saying that Taco is coming to Peru???

[seemeatthebeach]

Good morning, Y'all.

Good for Peru on the fingerprint by the signature thing; although a handwriting expert could validate his signature, the fingerprint is a great idea. It's almost like they know his mentality and are prepared for it. 

That John Ludwig and his friends are idiots, and may even end up with an FBI file on them after this.  And what a "hotshot" screen shot by Rob.

Ludwick might find himself on a no-fly list when he least expects it...maybe while in Peru visiting his BFF at Castro Castro.....LOL

I'm sorry, that's the last one. I couldn't help myself. < snickers >

Don't stop Rob.....they are hysterical!