Lively Case Discussion #504 7/31 - 8/3/2006

[flyingmermaid]

Terry is a total riot!

[Jacqueline]

Terry is a total riot!

He lives a full life.

[Kimmy53]

This is exactly it.  No help was sought.

My explanation I am going to tell people as to what happened to Natalee is that the three suspects kidnapped, raped and murdered her.  The main suspect Joran Van der Sloot in a blind rage shot and killed her while she was trying to fight off his sexual attack in front of his friends.  Van der Sloots father came into the room and said just let her die I will take care of the rest.  This is why they will not let you find her body.

I can also add that all this happened while filming a porno video of the rape for his friend Freddy to distribute around the internet.

Thus explaining the "bloody mattress", blood in Deepak's car (from moving her, or someone w/ her blood on them) Also explains the statement from the FBI that per the amount of blood they saw, they do not believe Natalee is alive.  Also supports Deepak's statement to Joran that when they see the girl, Joran would get 15yrs in prison (term for murder - I think?)

Deepak & (Possibly) Satish and Freddy were possible witnesses.  They were probably told that they were just as guilty as if they pulled the trigger, to just do what Paulus says.

Also ties in the fact that it took Paulus 15-20 mins to come out to see what all the ruckus was when the police & the Twitty's came to his house.

Very interesting.

BTW - Good morning monkeys!!!

[Red]

New Front Page Post>

AM Dital: Measures Will Increase Alcohol & Drug Users Among the Youth

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/08/01/am-dital-measures-will-increase-alcohol-drug-users-among-the-youth/

Wasn’t it Joran Van der Sloot in an interview who stated it was American teenagers who drank too much? And he though it was wrong.

you know, when they come to Aruba and they get a chance to drink, they go — you know, they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.

[klaasend]

New Front Page Post>

AM Dital: Measures Will Increase Alcohol & Drug Users Among the Youth

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/08/01/am-dital-measures-will-increase-alcohol-drug-users-among-the-youth/

Wasn’t it Joran Van der Sloot in an interview who stated it was American teenagers who drank too much? And he though it was wrong.

you know, when they come to Aruba and they get a chance to drink, they go — you know, they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.

Great post Red:

A bad thing. Spare us your noble concern. You do not think its a bad thing … in fact you pray on it occurring. You actually facilitated it with a 151 shot. Why else would you go to a bar 1/2 before closing if not to find the most helpless person in the group and separate her from her friends?

Just like he's done at least 20 times before!

[mishy]

Terry is a total riot!

He lives a full life.

Yup, looks like he and his friends know how to have fun...

Jaquelina, I've been meaning to tell you that i love your avatar...very pretty  

[flyingmermaid]

If I was as stupid as Joran I would just SHUT UP!

[Whodunit?]

It would seem that horse has already left the barn.  Having her photo all over the island wasn't enough?  

I cannot understand how a parent could "let this go".  The only way to regain her reputation is to prosecute the offenders.  Or wait until they victimize somebody else and hope the next victim has more balls.  Of course, this poor girl is probably not the first victim.  Nor will she be the last.

I wouldn't let it go... it's truly sick that being raped would ruin your reputation... and it seems to be that the boys are just let to run wild.... I mean with that incident and jvds stating they had done this 20 x.... is it any wonder that Aruba blames Natalee for their problems... they think rape is normal behavior [/quote]

Maybe they have somehow been "enticed" to let it go??????

[mishy]

It would seem that horse has already left the barn.  Having her photo all over the island wasn't enough?  

I cannot understand how a parent could "let this go".  The only way to regain her reputation is to prosecute the offenders.  Or wait until they victimize somebody else and hope the next victim has more balls.  Of course, this poor girl is probably not the first victim.  Nor will she be the last.

I wouldn't let it go... it's truly sick that being raped would ruin your reputation... and it seems to be that the boys are just let to run wild.... I mean with that incident and jvds stating they had done this 20 x.... is it any wonder that Aruba blames Natalee for their problems... they think rape is normal behavior

Maybe they have somehow been "enticed" to let it go??????[/quote]

Now, that is probably the likely story, Whodunit...seems like there's always somebody working "clean up" behind the scenes

Great to see ya, BTW!!!!

[Jacqueline]

Terry is a total riot!

He lives a full life.

Yup, looks like he and his friends know how to have fun...

Jaquelina, I've been meaning to tell you that i love your avatar...very pretty  

Thanks Mishy....

Gotta "think Cool" lately, been so hot !

[Whodunit?]

It would seem that horse has already left the barn.  Having her photo all over the island wasn't enough?  

I cannot understand how a parent could "let this go".  The only way to regain her reputation is to prosecute the offenders.  Or wait until they victimize somebody else and hope the next victim has more balls.  Of course, this poor girl is probably not the first victim.  Nor will she be the last.

I wouldn't let it go... it's truly sick that being raped would ruin your reputation... and it seems to be that the boys are just let to run wild.... I mean with that incident and jvds stating they had done this 20 x.... is it any wonder that Aruba blames Natalee for their problems... they think rape is normal behavior

Maybe they have somehow been "enticed" to let it go??????

Now, that is probably the likely story, Whodunit...seems like there's always somebody working "clean up" behind the scenes

Great to see ya, BTW!!!! [/quote]

Thanks, Mishy!  Now, if I can just get the quote stacks right..........

It's good to be here.  I have so little time lately!  Another new kitty (that makes 3!) and kids out of school, in fact trying to get me to take them to teh pool now so I better run........

[Lala'sMom]

Morning Monkeys.  Stopping by to say hello.  What is everyone up to today? Any news?

[Nut44x4]

Morning Monkeys.  Stopping by to say hello.  What is everyone up to today? Any news?

As per rumours and or other sources, is this not the day we are to hear something on the Paulus' suit in Aruba??  So far as I scan all sources, I see nothing on this decision. Perhaps it is too early in the day (11:30 est here)

[Lala'sMom]

Nut
You know how the rumors are.  I so hope we hear soon.  Any news is better than nothing.  If they don't rule soon, the world is going to totally foget about this case...then again...that is what Aruba is hoping will happen.  Unfortunately, I think they will continue to suffer on the island.  They haven't the courage to clean house and that tells me I wouldn't want to go there.  I admit I am a bit nervous about the ruling, though.

[Lala'sMom]

Could someone tell me how the story of the gun and Natalee being shot surfaced?  Is it just from the van conversations?   Is there any additional rumors or postings mentioning a gun before this?  TIA

[Peaches]

Could someone tell me how the story of the gun and Natalee being shot surfaced?  Is it just from the van conversations?   Is there any additional rumors or postings mentioning a gun before this?  TIA

Near as I  can tell, the only time a gun has been mentioned is in the police car conversation amongst the suspects.  They brought it up.

[San]

If I was as stupid as Joran I would just SHUT UP!

He doesn't realize how stupid he is.  In his mind he thinks he is smarter than everyone and we are the stupid ones.

[San]

Could someone tell me how the story of the gun and Natalee being shot surfaced?  Is it just from the van conversations?   Is there any additional rumors or postings mentioning a gun before this?  TIA

Hi Lala's, there was discussion about the gun last night.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=26457#26457

[wreck]

If I was as stupid as Joran I would just SHUT UP!

He doesn't realize how stupid he is.  In his mind he thinks he is smarter than everyone and we are the stupid ones.

That is EXACTLY what I think too! This is what infuriates me the most -- these morons think they are smarter than us "stupid Americans". They think they are "pulling-one-over-on-us."!!!!

[San]

If I was as stupid as Joran I would just SHUT UP!

He doesn't realize how stupid he is.  In his mind he thinks he is smarter than everyone and we are the stupid ones.

That is EXACTLY what I think too! This is what infuriates me the most -- these morons think they are smarter than us "stupid Americans". They think they are "pulling-one-over-on-us."!!!!

Yes I agree.  And we're so stupid that the Aruban Tourists Authority is sending Beth Twitty the victims mother letters about the decline in tourism.  Now who are the stupid ones.