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Topic: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial (Read 1674670 times)
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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May 22, 2013, 02:54:50 PM »
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
Judge Stephens is offering up some advice on how they can come to a unanimous decision. #JodiArias
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The jury is unable to come to a unanimous decision.
http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jodi-arias-live-stream.html
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Quote from: Brandi on May 22, 2013, 02:54:50 PM
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
Judge Stephens is offering up some advice on how they can come to a unanimous decision. #JodiArias
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The jury is unable to come to a unanimous decision.
http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jodi-arias-live-stream.html
I was so afraid of this. Just takes ONE juror.
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I don't have a solid feel for how I think this is going to go with the jury. I voted in the poll after Jodi was through with her statement. I felt sure, after that, that Juan had been handed enough by what she did and did not say, to bring home a death sentence.
I'm getting ready to duck here, but I'm not sure Juan drove home all that could have been driven, yesterday. I don't think the defense threw up any obstacles that were insurmountable so I basically discount altogether their effort. The first thing that struck me was the lack of passion in the closing arguments. I just wish more of the dots had been connected. I wish that the T-Shirt display had been highlighted, and the evidence from that connected to Jodi's persistence to painting Travis as an abuser; something that Jodi was promising to continue from behind bars. That's a guarantee that the family would continue to be subjected to it.
I wish that Jodi's "one time" bad behavior had been re-termed in Juan's framework of killing Travis three times. That was the number one listed mitigating factor and the first Juan addressed. The gunshot, the throat slash, and the stab to the heart all had accompanying pictures and I wish each had been displayed in response to that lack of a criminal record factor.
I wish the defense's apparent concession to Jodi's bipolar personality had been exploited to ask, "Why wasn't that mental flaw evident in her relationship with Brewer?"
There are many other things, but above all else, I really wish this question had been posed to the jury: "What have you heard from Jodi that gives you any reason to believe that she has changed from the premeditated, vile, evil murderer that so violently slaughtered Travis, dragged him to the shower to rot for days, and lied to police and everyone else to cover it up?" There was no words or demeanor from her that even suggested an inner journey that might hold hope of real change. Forgiveness and hope has a process that in years, Jodi hasn't even begun. You have to be able to examine yourself, soberly and truthfully. You have to be able to let the pain you've caused others, in and own it. It's hard to do, but to some degree you have to hang your head so that when you manage to look up, you see the only source of help there is.
Well, I see the jury is about to become a hung jury. I wish I were surprised.
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Jodi sitting in court when judge says jury unable to come to a decision.
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What happens now?
IF it's a hung jury?
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HLN is saying they'll bring in another jury?
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Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
What happens now?
IF it's a hung jury?
My understanding another sentencing trial would take place with a new jury.
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Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
What happens now?
IF it's a hung jury?
Tyhen a NEW jury is chosen. And the penalty phase is reheard by them.
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Quote from: Brandi on May 22, 2013, 03:01:22 PM
Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
What happens now?
IF it's a hung jury?
Tyhen a NEW jury is chosen. And the
penalty phase
is reheard by them.
Correction: penalty phase should be: sentencing phase.
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#jodiarias #fox10 If jury cannot agree, judge will declare mistrial as to penalty phase only and impanel a new jury to decide sentence.
This means, HLN says, that they will have to do a new trial for the judgment phase which means bringing
in new jury and have to go back over all the evidence to all new people
So it will be a miss-trial.
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I'm guessing but I'd say it would be easier to convince someone to back up to "life" than to go further to "death". JMO. At this point, a hung jury seems most likely.
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Thank God this jury found her guilty of first degree murder. That verdict will stand.
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The State can take the Death Penalty off the table and send the jury back to decide life?
i AM SHOCKED
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The defense will make a big deal out of not being able to find an untainted jury. I would disagree with the prospect. I'm constantly amazed at how ignorant people can be of anything going on around them. Half the people on the streets don't know who the Vice President is, or ever watch anything other than their favorite shows and never watch the news, etc...
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I think The Judge can just give her life, so they don't have to spend any more time and money
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Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
The State can take the Death Penalty off the table and send the jury back to decide life?
i AM SHOCKED
The State can take death off the table, but I
think
that would end the need for a jury. My understanding is that first degree means life and it's up to the judge whether that's with or without parole.
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Quote from: CBB on May 22, 2013, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
The State can take the Death Penalty off the table and send the jury back to decide life?
i AM SHOCKED
The State can take death off the table, but I
think
that would end the need for a jury. My understanding is that first degree means life and it's up to the judge whether that's with or without parole.
If she gets life, it's 25 yrs. She has served 5 so she gets out at 20 yrs. (per Nancy Grace on HLN).
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NG just said that either the jury will have to reach a a verdict or there will have to be either a plea or a new jury will have to be selected. I suppose a plea would include the State taking death off the table.
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Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 03:15:14 PM
Quote from: CBB on May 22, 2013, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
The State can take the Death Penalty off the table and send the jury back to decide life?
i AM SHOCKED
The State can take death off the table, but I
think
that would end the need for a jury. My understanding is that first degree means life and it's up to the judge whether that's with or without parole.
If she gets life, it's 25 yrs. She has served 5 so she gets out at 20 yrs. (per Nancy Grace on HLN).
That's right, according to my understanding.
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Quote from: CBB on May 22, 2013, 03:09:46 PM
The defense will make a big deal out of not being able to find an untainted jury. I would disagree with the prospect. I'm constantly amazed at how ignorant people can be of anything going on around them. Half the people on the streets don't know who the Vice President is, or ever watch anything other than their favorite shows and never watch the news, etc...
Too funny and I agree with you. People may have hard the name, but do not know any facts of the case.
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