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« Reply #1160 on: October 27, 2009, 06:03:31 PM »

Cole County authorities serve warrant on slain girl's neighbor
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 | 4:04 p.m. CDT
BY The Associated Press
JEFFERSON CITY — Authorities in mid-Missouri say a warrant served at a home in the neighborhood where a 9-year-old girl was found dead this past week was unrelated to the killing.

The Cole County Sheriff's Department served the warrant Friday night just hours after the body of Elizabeth Olten was discovered. The department said Tuesday the warrant was related to a traffic stop, not to the girl's death.

A court hearing is scheduled Wednesday on whether a 15-year-old charged in the killing should continue to be detained.

Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty said the teen won't be in the courtroom but will take part by videoconference.

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2009/10/27/warrant-near-mo-girls-house-unrelated-case/#c

I know I have the flu and a fever however yesterday they stated it was  a Search Warrant.  Since when do search warrants get served for traffic stops? 

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« Reply #1161 on: October 27, 2009, 06:06:54 PM »

Court officials brief press on juvenile trial case

COLE COUNTY -- The Cole County juvenile court sets hearing dates for the suspect in the Elizabeth Olten’s murder.

The teenager suspected has been in the custody of Cole County juvenile officials since her arrest Friday.

A judge tomorrow will decide whether she remains there until a Nov. 18 hearing on whether she will be tried as an adult

Juvenile Court Administrator Michael Couty told reporters the family of murder victim Elizabeth Olten has been briefed on the case against the 15-year-old suspected in Elizabeth's death. The next step is a detention hearing.

"In the juvenile setting, we do not have bail,” Couty said. “So this is to determine if we're going to detain within our detention facility or release somewhere else.”

Couty would not discuss the demeanor of the suspect in custody, saying only that her rights are assured. "To meet with their attorney, to meet with their family, and to be protected,” Couty said.

On Nov. 18, family court Judge Jon Beetem will decide whether the teenager will stand trial as an adult.   Couty said the juvenile court staff needs the three weeks until then to evaluate the suspect against the ten criteria dictated by statute and will present their recommendation to the court on Nov. 18.

If tried as an adult, the teenager could still become eligible for treatment through the state division of youth services.

"You'd have to have a certification and you'd have to have a finding of guilt and conviction in the adult courts for dual jurisdiction,” Legal Counsel Samantha Green said.

Green will act as the prosecutor if the case remains in juvenile court.

"She is very capable of dealing with these particular issues,” Couty said. “We will be ready for court on Nov. 18.”

Recent changes in state law have opened up the hearings for juvenile suspects to the public unless the judge specifically orders they be closed.

Juvenile Authority Director Michael Couty listed 10 criteria that are considered during the certification process. The judge will ultimately decide whether to charge the suspect as a juvenile or adult.

List of criteria considered during a certification hearing:

Seriousness of offense and consider the safety of the public if suspect should be transferred to general jurisdiction
Whether the offense involved vicious force and violence
Whether the offense was against a person or property, with greater weight given to offenses against a person, especially if personal injury resulted.
Was the offense was part of a repetitive pattern of offenses, where the child may be beyond rehabilitation under the juvenile code.
The record and history of the child in juvenile system and other courts will be considered
The sophistication and maturity of the child as determined by considering home, other environmental and emotional conditions and pattern of living.
Age of the child
Consider the programs available to the juvenile system.
Whether or not the child will benefit from treatment or rehabilitation programs available to the court.
Racial disparity and certification.

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=368523
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« Reply #1162 on: October 27, 2009, 06:23:07 PM »

How do you rehabilitate a 15 yr old who murders a 9 yr old? What kind of program would that be, pray tell? Are there juvenile services for this?
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RACIAL DISPARITY AND CERTIFICATION??????? 
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=368523
 



Sumthin' tells me we are in for a looooonnnnggg haul on this case. 
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« Reply #1163 on: October 27, 2009, 06:25:11 PM »

viewing is starting in 15 minutes?

Her wake is scheduled for 4-8 p.m. Tuesday at the Houser-Millard funeral home in Jefferson City. The funeral service is at 2 p.m. Wednesday at Concord Baptist Church.
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« Reply #1164 on: October 27, 2009, 06:49:18 PM »

TheEagle939: 15 y/o suspect in Elizabeth Olten's murder is confirmed sophomore at Jeff. City High School. Judge will rule this week on adult status
about 3 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/search?q=olten#search?q=olten

she is really a cute girl if that is her...
the tweet on Sept 9th (i think) is very chilling!

You mentioned her being a cute girl.  I am confused.  When I hit the above link all I get was a list of tweets from lots of people.  Am I missing something?
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« Reply #1165 on: October 27, 2009, 07:05:11 PM »

TheEagle939: 15 y/o suspect in Elizabeth Olten's murder is confirmed sophomore at Jeff. City High School. Judge will rule this week on adult status
about 3 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/search?q=olten#search?q=olten

she is really a cute girl if that is her...
the tweet on Sept 9th (i think) is very chilling!

You mentioned her being a cute girl.  I am confused.  When I hit the above link all I get was a list of tweets from lots of people.  Am I missing something?


   WELCOME coffeetx   

The link in the first box links you to the source of that information for that box only.  Next box is a comment about the POI which in this case is not at that link.  We have not posted the link for who we think in the  POI's twitter as LE has not named her. 
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« Reply #1166 on: October 27, 2009, 07:07:29 PM »



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« Reply #1167 on: October 27, 2009, 07:13:40 PM »


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« Reply #1168 on: October 27, 2009, 07:15:17 PM »

 coffeetx   WELCOME   
 
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« Reply #1169 on: October 27, 2009, 07:37:03 PM »

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« Reply #1170 on: October 27, 2009, 07:44:57 PM »

NG is covering the case tonight.
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« Reply #1171 on: October 27, 2009, 08:08:13 PM »

Hi Everyone! I finally got approved. Considering tonight is Elizabeth's wake, I thought you all might enjoy this link which has pictures that aren't in the mainstream media. Warning: it's heartbreaking. http://elizabetholten.ning.com/
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« Reply #1172 on: October 27, 2009, 08:09:29 PM »

   WELCOME  espresso   
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« Reply #1173 on: October 27, 2009, 08:13:07 PM »

NG and local media guy talking about case

Nancy and local media guy talking about sherriff answering questions about the written evidence.  Sheriff said written letter and then other written evidence.  Speculating if this means they found a diary or something similar as well

Nancy knows her name won't say it

Local media guy says he knows her name as well and he knows she does not live with her parents won't say name either
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« Reply #1174 on: October 27, 2009, 08:13:55 PM »

Hi Everyone! I finally got approved. Considering tonight is Elizabeth's wake, I thought you all might enjoy this link which has pictures that aren't in the mainstream media. Warning: it's heartbreaking. http://elizabetholten.ning.com/


Thank you for sharing these.  They are heart breaking
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« Reply #1175 on: October 27, 2009, 08:16:36 PM »

Hi Everyone! I finally got approved. Considering tonight is Elizabeth's wake, I thought you all might enjoy this link which has pictures that aren't in the mainstream media. Warning: it's heartbreaking. http://elizabetholten.ning.com/

Thank-you and WELCOME  and I love espresso 
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« Reply #1176 on: October 27, 2009, 08:17:18 PM »

Hi Everyone! I finally got approved. Considering tonight is Elizabeth's wake, I thought you all might enjoy this link which has pictures that aren't in the mainstream media. Warning: it's heartbreaking. http://elizabetholten.ning.com/


Welcome ESPRESSO, and thank you so much for that link to those precious pictures. It gives us such a better perspective of what Liz was like.  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1177 on: October 27, 2009, 08:18:05 PM »

Aunt Vicki now on NG via phone
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« Reply #1178 on: October 27, 2009, 08:18:56 PM »

TheEagle939: 15 y/o suspect in Elizabeth Olten's murder is confirmed sophomore at Jeff. City High School. Judge will rule this week on adult status
about 3 hours ago from web

http://twitter.com/search?q=olten#search?q=olten

she is really a cute girl if that is her...
the tweet on Sept 9th (i think) is very chilling!

You mentioned her being a cute girl.  I am confused.  When I hit the above link all I get was a list of tweets from lots of people.  Am I missing something?

Welcome to you too COFFEETEX.  an angelic monkey

I believe her twitter site has been taken down.
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« Reply #1179 on: October 27, 2009, 08:19:13 PM »

What a beautiful little girl Elizabeth was  an angelic monkey
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