Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND,OR #29 9/18/10 - 9/21/10

[nana0567]

I meant to add, Kaine having the same reaction as it was all in Terri's head, and Kyron didn't have an issue. 

Once it came to the school's attention Kyron had a Dr. appt and the teacher had to monitor him, which I'm sure Ms. Porter shared with staff- he disappeared.

Allegedly, Terri had the discussion on Thursday about the Dr. appointment.  I do not remember the source of that statement, I want to say it came from Terri's camp early in the investigation.  I will try and locate it later on today.

The Dr. had to be aware of Terri's allegations of seizures, becaue Terri supposedly gave Ms. Porter documentation she was supposed to fill out while she monitored Kyrons behaviour at school.

I've never been clear on the "reason" for the doctor's appointment.  Terri talked about Kyron acting odd for a couple of weeks.  Where did the word "seizures" come from?  Terri? Or could it be that Terri had already taken Kyron to a doctors (perhaps family doctor) before and discussed Kyron's actions with that doctor.  Maybe that doctor suggested "seizures" and so an appointment was made to go see a "specialist".  Or...maybe the doctor was the kind of doctor what would work with Kyron to to evaluate his actions. 

Or, maybe Kyron was simply going for a regular check-up.  Or to the eye doctor. 

However, with the supposed paperwork from the doctor for the teacher to complete, it does sound like there had been a previous vist or previous visits to the doctor.  In that case, I can't believe that Kaine wasn't aware of the doctor visit(s).  Maybe he didn't agree that Kyron has something going on, or maybe it simply that with Kaine being so intelligent himself - he wouldn't want to consider that his son may have some kind of problem.

Question: some have said that Terri had just started making this up about Kyron...but...wouldn't she have had to previously taken Kyron to the doctor in order to get paperwork for the teacher to complete?

I'm by no means a doctor...but I don't necessarily think Terri would have had to taken Kyron to the doctor. She could've called the family doctor if they have one...explained to them what she seemed to be the only one noticing. They could have had her come to the office and pick up paper work for her and the teacher/teacher's to observe how Kyron was acting. I know when one of my children were evaluated for ADD/ADHD that is how it was handled...they wanted the questionnaire answered by his teachers and a parent...and then about a week later you go in for your child's appointment with the completed paper work. However, these so called seizures would be more dangerous then being tested for ADD/ADHD and I would think he should have been supervised a little better. Personally, if one of my children were going through those type of seizures I would keep them home and home school them until it was safe for them to go back to school. I'm with allot of other monkeys and I just don't believe this seizure story...and Kaine, Desiree or Tony weren't aware of them either...so evidently they were only happening around Terry. Who knows maybe will find out differently later.

[MuffyBee]

[Monkey King]

That may be why Terri was requesting the daily updates on Kyron.  To see if someone else was seeing a change in his behavoir.  Once it was determined, by the color coding system the teacher had, Terri notified the Dr. who suggested the teacher complete the paperwork and submitt it to the Dr., along with Terri's input for his evaluation.

[islandmonkey]

OT--- IM - I've seen you up there the last couple days.  Just wanted to say HI! And I hope all is well with you & yours! 

Hi FCL~I  lurk over here only, very sad case that reminds me somewhat of the HC case mixed in with "Along Came A Spider" by Alex Cross, just so sad to see yet another child gone

[hellokitty]

 

If we go with the school scenario in that Ky was taken an placed in the basement, why would a perp do this?  How could the perp guarantee that Ky would not be found or make noise or die in the school?  He would have to be drugged and then tied and then have something put over his mouth which could result in him dying from not being able to breathe.

That scenario makes no sense to me.

[Kokos Cat]

Koko when this case first hit SM .. I was very much on the fence.  I had pure empathy for Terri Horman.
I was concerned for Her. I thought  HOLY CRAP god forbid anyone would be this scrutinized for being named the last person to see their child at a public school.
I even said that Terri is going to need a Flack Jacket to go retrieve her mail from her own mail box ..that was around the time she was named and failing her Polys.
Then came into play the news of Kaine's brother who was given his sentencing of child molestation ( had been in the court system for many months prior) that he was going to Jail.
Then soon after came ..the flier created by LE ..sent out to everyone to fill out.
With Terri's photo and the photo of the white pick up. Nothing known or making any sense at that time. Then things started being let out, leaked .. Ok fine. Then the MFH Plot hit the news .. June 26. Was then too much to not take into consideration, this is no longer about Kyron ..but the dysfunctions of his family and those who surrounded his life. Everything went South and Sideways. Kyron at times almost being detoured that he was not even a thought.. That it became the focus of the Adults bad behaviors..

I think this is why this case is so emotional, because most of us cannot grasp the known behaviors of the Adults responsible for Kyron let alone the " unknown" behaviors that they may or may not have conducted ..yet are being looked into. LE said it themselves " this is now a case of findings .. that are considered personal to LE ..that it is so ugly".. though not confessed from LE what avenue of ugly it is .. speculating it is of child abuse,trafficking, pornography, drug trade, illegals, landscapers.. and it does not help that we have such ppl as " Slap happy pappy " walk in and say " a parade will be bigger than ? the day Kyron is found" He is alive, I am a child advocate and I have knowledge .. puke OH did I forget to mention my DAD of 70+ yrs of age is serving prison time for Child PORN, found in his office and his house .. that he was investigated for how many years .. But I had to tell everyone that I was Dede's fiance and she is a stand up slob that has no work ethics, did once though, she was once cute, but she got fat, lost her job and tried to take advantage of me.. But she would never hurt anyone. Too bad he forgot about the Dog she practically killed in her own house, pet sitting. Everyone near and close to Kyron has a bucket next to them that is filling up slowly ..  excluding One and that is his Mother " Desiree".
I say let them all fend for themselves .. its about Kyron and the facts that come in .. when they do .. the last presser of sheriff Staton was within words ..this is not just about Kyron but of a concern that is of HIM and has become bigger and more evil than we could have imagined - so its in the hands of higher ranks than I.. we are not leaving this a cold case. We will continue on. But the jurisdiction is now in the hands of ?? who would be higher ranking than State Police... basically Kyron's case within the investigation and his family members/associates has taken LE agencies on a tour they never expected to be on.
 

We wait and Pray.

Me is signing off.
Good Night/Morning all

Dear Deenie,

 
   
    Thanks so much for this post!!!  I really savored it because I'm new to all this... to the monkeys, online forums, armchair crime detection... everything.  It's probably not the easiest case to be initiated with, though I'm sure none of them have been.
    But, while trying to find my way I've talked to a lot of people with years of experience and a common theme is, "Never in all my years....have I seen a case as emotionally charged as this one."
 
    And, I've gotten caught up in it so many times and lost my perspective and forgot why I was hanging out on the internet in the first place...  I've taken things personally and been personally attacked and seen others do the same when, as far as I know, most of us only really wanted to find Kyron. 
    Like many people I've met recently, I spent most of my summer looking for Kyron!  I ignored my family, didn't eat, didn't sleep and obsessed on it.  And every time I turned around I stepped on someone's toes, got punched in the nose, or was accused of being Terri Horman.  If there weren't so many of us experiencing the same fate, that would have REALLY pissed me off, but it was just like, hey?  How many of her can there be?  Unless Kaine's learned to clone her or something... Anyway, at least, the last time I looked I was NOT Terri Horman.  And now... I think I've finally caught up on my sleep so no matter what hour of the day that you tell me I am TH?  I am NOT buying it.  Not any more.
    OK.  Anyway.  That's why I was so interested in your insights regarding the emotionality of Kyron's case.  Because I really wanted to comprehend what was happening to people over this case, but I could not. 
    I totally agree with you.  It's so hard to understand.  Yet we keep trying, because to find Kyron you have to understand whatever motivation compelled whatever evil action was taken, even if it leads straight to Hell.
    Also fear breeds anger and there appears to be plenty to be afraid of, here.  Also, plenty more to IMAGINE being afraid of.
    Thanks so much, my dear Deenie!  I'm looking forward to getting to know you and to reading your posts.  That's the one good thing that's come from this case.  I've met some amazing people.  Unfortunately, before coming to the monkey's kingdom?  I felt like the balanced had tipped and I had rubbed shoulders with the devil's minions.
    I feel safer now that I'm here in the cage.
    Still....If I ever go missing?  Will you please call Harry Oakes?  He should be able to find me.

Cheerfully,

 

Koko's Cat 
     
   

[Monkey King]

If we go with the school scenario in that Ky was taken an placed in the basement, why would a perp do this?  Because the person is a pedophile and can't help themself

How could the perp guarantee that Ky would not be found or make noise or die in the school?  He couldn't

He would have to be drugged and then tied and then have something put over his mouth which could result in him dying from not being able to breathe. He would only need to be drugged, duct tape could have been used.  We are talking about a child predator here, you think they give a sh!t about their victims?  That's what makes them so dangerous. 

That scenario makes no sense to me.  Can't help you there.

[Desdemona]

From OregonLive

At 8:45 a.m. when the bell rang, Terri walked her stepson down the hall close to his class.

"He told her, 'I'm going back to the classroom, Mom,' and she waves to him and left," Carol Moulton said.

Now this is from Terri's mother so I believe that's what Terri told her. But Terri's tale is slightly off. If Terri walked her stepson down the hall close to his class, that would seem she was walking him to class. Why then would Kyron say, "I'm going back to the classroom, Mom"?
They were already close, why would he stop her, and even so, why wouldn't she take him right to the classroom? Three good reasons: Lies, fibs and fabrications.

Could have been a simultaneous type thing..you know..Kyron's mentioning he's going back to his room and Terri's walking him down the hall.

Like many of the details we are all so hungrily scavenging and testing and discussing, this story provided to the media by Terri's mom actually originated with Terri herself, including the above supposed verbatim quote from Kyron.

I agree with Scatty and the others who find this account questionable, along with most of the details that Terri provided in the first days, before she went silent. 

Why would Kyron inform "Mom" he was "going back to the classroom,"  if "Mom" was in fact already in the process of walking him down the hall toward said classroom?  It does not make sense to me, which IMO makes Terri's story, as parroted by her mother, suspect.

I also agree with those who point out that if Terri believed Kyron was suffering from some kind of neurological problem that was causing mini-seizures and zombie-like behavior, she would have been negligent to just walk away and not accompany him safely into the classroom herself, especially on a ("chaotic" if you believe Terri) morning such as June 4.

[Kokos Cat]

They always say Occam's Razor-Occam's Razor.

I've tried to see what could be the simplest explanation vs the more complicated theories.  Today, I am still stuck back at the school.  (see my post on page #25 posts #498 & #499)
MK

Dear Puzzler, MK & Monks,

I agree.  It's simple.  It's not easy, (it's complicated), but it's simple (please see my new signature, below)!

But, like Deenie with her gym bag, me I keep going back to the island... the cell phone pings on the island.  The witness reports.  Kaine getting off work early.  White car/red mustang chasing around on the island... BP's houseboat on the island..  Death alerts off the houseboats... divers searching but not finding...Harry finding but LE not searching...

WHY do I keep going back to that !#$!*$% island, when I've never been there in my whole life?

Humpf.

I'm stomping outta here before I spontaneously combust.  I'll see you monkeys around the bend, cuz that's where I'm headed!



K. Cat.

[Desdemona]

I meant to add, Kaine having the same reaction as it was all in Terri's head, and Kyron didn't have an issue. 

Once it came to the school's attention Kyron had a Dr. appt and the teacher had to monitor him, which I'm sure Ms. Porter shared with staff- he disappeared.

Allegedly, Terri had the discussion on Thursday about the Dr. appointment.  I do not remember the source of that statement, I want to say it came from Terri's camp early in the investigation.  I will try and locate it later on today.

The Dr. had to be aware of Terri's allegations of seizures, becaue Terri supposedly gave Ms. Porter documentation she was supposed to fill out while she monitored Kyrons behaviour at school.

I've never been clear on the "reason" for the doctor's appointment.  Terri talked about Kyron acting odd for a couple of weeks.  Where did the word "seizures" come from?  Terri? Or could it be that Terri had already taken Kyron to a doctors (perhaps family doctor) before and discussed Kyron's actions with that doctor.  Maybe that doctor suggested "seizures" and so an appointment was made to go see a "specialist".  Or...maybe the doctor was the kind of doctor what would work with Kyron to to evaluate his actions. 

Or, maybe Kyron was simply going for a regular check-up.  Or to the eye doctor. 

However, with the supposed paperwork from the doctor for the teacher to complete, it does sound like there had been a previous vist or previous visits to the doctor.  In that case, I can't believe that Kaine wasn't aware of the doctor visit(s).  Maybe he didn't agree that Kyron has something going on, or maybe it simply that with Kaine being so intelligent himself - he wouldn't want to consider that his son may have some kind of problem.

Question: some have said that Terri had just started making this up about Kyron...but...wouldn't she have had to previously taken Kyron to the doctor in order to get paperwork for the teacher to complete?

http://www.kptv.com/news/24151901/detail.html

Q: Was Kyron supposed to be out of school the following Friday for a doctor’s appt.?

A: KAINE – THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT but it was unknown exactly when the appointment was scheduled so we cannot comment for certain.

So~ Kaine WAS AWARE of the Dr. appt.

Good find.  I think the question of the alleged Dr. appointment is going to end up being important in this case, as I believe it could help to reveal the extent of premeditation in the plan to make Kyron disappear.

I don't agree that this quote from Kaine necessarily proves that Kaine was aware of the alleged Dr. appointment BEFORE June 4.  Kaine could possibly be referring to a "discussion" about an alleged appointment which took place during the first days after Kyron went missing, when Terri was spinning her tales to Kaine, Desiree, Tony, LE, etc.... JMO.

It would really be helpful to know what investigators have learned about this mysterious story of Kyron exhibiting worrisome symptoms right before he disappeared, and that he had a Dr. appointment.  Was an assessment or evaluation form really give to one of Kyron's teachers for this purpose?  Is there really a record of Terri calling a doctor to discuss her concerns about Kyron, and being given a tentative diagnosis of "mini-seizures?"  Was there really an appointment?  (I heard there may have been an appointment for June 11, but can't recall whether that was yet another detail that has been mentioned only by Terri.)  I really am curious about this facet of the story.

[sackyattack]

Koko when this case first hit SM .. I was very much on the fence.  I had pure empathy for Terri Horman.
I was concerned for Her. I thought  HOLY CRAP god forbid anyone would be this scrutinized for being named the last person to see their child at a public school.
I even said that Terri is going to need a Flack Jacket to go retrieve her mail from her own mail box ..that was around the time she was named and failing her Polys.
Then came into play the news of Kaine's brother who was given his sentencing of child molestation ( had been in the court system for many months prior) that he was going to Jail.
Then soon after came ..the flier created by LE ..sent out to everyone to fill out.
With Terri's photo and the photo of the white pick up. Nothing known or making any sense at that time. Then things started being let out, leaked .. Ok fine. Then the MFH Plot hit the news .. June 26. Was then too much to not take into consideration, this is no longer about Kyron ..but the dysfunctions of his family and those who surrounded his life. Everything went South and Sideways. Kyron at times almost being detoured that he was not even a thought.. That it became the focus of the Adults bad behaviors..

I think this is why this case is so emotional, because most of us cannot grasp the known behaviors of the Adults responsible for Kyron let alone the " unknown" behaviors that they may or may not have conducted ..yet are being looked into. LE said it themselves " this is now a case of findings .. that are considered personal to LE ..that it is so ugly".. though not confessed from LE what avenue of ugly it is .. speculating it is of child abuse,trafficking, pornography, drug trade, illegals, landscapers.. and it does not help that we have such ppl as " Slap happy pappy " walk in and say " a parade will be bigger than ? the day Kyron is found" He is alive, I am a child advocate and I have knowledge .. puke OH did I forget to mention my DAD of 70+ yrs of age is serving prison time for Child PORN, found in his office and his house .. that he was investigated for how many years .. But I had to tell everyone that I was Dede's fiance and she is a stand up slob that has no work ethics, did once though, she was once cute, but she got fat, lost her job and tried to take advantage of me.. But she would never hurt anyone. Too bad he forgot about the Dog she practically killed in her own house, pet sitting. Everyone near and close to Kyron has a bucket next to them that is filling up slowly ..  excluding One and that is his Mother " Desiree".
I say let them all fend for themselves .. its about Kyron and the facts that come in .. when they do .. the last presser of sheriff Staton was within words ..this is not just about Kyron but of a concern that is of HIM and has become bigger and more evil than we could have imagined - so its in the hands of higher ranks than I.. we are not leaving this a cold case. We will continue on. But the jurisdiction is now in the hands of ?? who would be higher ranking than State Police... basically Kyron's case within the investigation and his family members/associates has taken LE agencies on a tour they never expected to be on.
 

We wait and Pray.

Me is signing off.
Good Night/Morning all

Dear Deenie,

 
   
    Thanks so much for this post!!!  I really savored it because I'm new to all this... to the monkeys, online forums, armchair crime detection... everything.  It's probably not the easiest case to be initiated with, though I'm sure none of them have been.
    But, while trying to find my way I've talked to a lot of people with years of experience and a common theme is, "Never in all my years....have I seen a case as emotionally charged as this one."
 
    And, I've gotten caught up in it so many times and lost my perspective and forgot why I was hanging out on the internet in the first place...  I've taken things personally and been personally attacked and seen others do the same when, as far as I know, most of us only really wanted to find Kyron. 
    Like many people I've met recently, I spent most of my summer looking for Kyron!  I ignored my family, didn't eat, didn't sleep and obsessed on it.  And every time I turned around I stepped on someone's toes, got punched in the nose, or was accused of being Terri Horman.  If there weren't so many of us experiencing the same fate, that would have REALLY pissed me off, but it was just like, hey?  How many of her can there be?  Unless Kaine's learned to clone her or something... Anyway, at least, the last time I looked I was NOT Terri Horman.  And now... I think I've finally caught up on my sleep so no matter what hour of the day that you tell me I am TH?  I am NOT buying it.  Not any more.
    OK.  Anyway.  That's why I was so interested in your insights regarding the emotionality of Kyron's case.  Because I really wanted to comprehend what was happening to people over this case, but I could not. 
    I totally agree with you.  It's so hard to understand.  Yet we keep trying, because to find Kyron you have to understand whatever motivation compelled whatever evil action was taken, even if it leads straight to Hell.
    Also fear breeds anger and there appears to be plenty to be afraid of, here.  Also, plenty more to IMAGINE being afraid of.
    Thanks so much, my dear Deenie!  I'm looking forward to getting to know you and to reading your posts.  That's the one good thing that's come from this case.  I've met some amazing people.  Unfortunately, before coming to the monkey's kingdom?  I felt like the balanced had tipped and I had rubbed shoulders with the devil's minions.
    I feel safer now that I'm here in the cage.
    Still....If I ever go missing?  Will you please call Harry Oakes?  He should be able to find me.

Cheerfully,

 

Koko's Cat 
     
   

thank you for posting this, it really helps me with my perspective

[Nana29]

IMO, TH is LLPOF...  and I believe nothing that originated from her. No seizures( if she was that concerned, KH and DY would have been aware of these episodes)

I agree with Desdemona, Scatty, and others about her account of "waves and leaves" ( my paraphrase)...only I will go further and say I not only question or find suspicious...  *LLPOF!

*LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE*

I feel very strongly that the reason/cause for Kyron being taken is something very evil and that herself is the seed of said evil.

[Desdemona]

That may be why Terri was requesting the daily updates on Kyron.  To see if someone else was seeing a change in his behavoir.  Once it was determined, by the color coding system the teacher had, Terri notified the Dr. who suggested the teacher complete the paperwork and submitt it to the Dr., along with Terri's input for his evaluation.

If it is true (as we have been told) that Terri was insisting on stern punishment for Kyron each day that his behavior was not up to a certain strict standard, then it would not make sense that her purpose for requiring the daily updates was related only to an assessment of his symptoms for medical purposes.

[Desdemona]

If we go with the school scenario in that Ky was taken an placed in the basement, why would a perp do this?  How could the perp guarantee that Ky would not be found or make noise or die in the school?  He would have to be drugged and then tied and then have something put over his mouth which could result in him dying from not being able to breathe.

That scenario makes no sense to me.

Nor to me, HelloKitty.  I am very intrigued by the suggestion that slipped out when Desiree was answering a question on camera -- that Kyron was seen by a witness or witnesses near a white truck (presumably at the school) which may or may not have been the truck Terri drove to the school that morning.  If it is true that a witness saw Kyron near the/a truck after the time when Terri supposedly told him goodbye and walked out of the building, then that is a highly significant fact to take into account.  And highly incriminating to Terri, IMO.

Shortly after LE began investigating Kyron's disappearance, they assured the public that no one else was in danger, and that Kyron's disappearance was an isolated incident.  From what they were hearing/learning in those first hours, they seem to have known right away that it was not a stranger abduction... IMO, they understood very early on that in Terri, they were dealing with a classic case of LLPOF.  (Thanks, Nana!)

[Monkey King]

That may be why Terri was requesting the daily updates on Kyron.  To see if someone else was seeing a change in his behavoir. Once it was determined, by the color coding system the teacher had, Terri notified the Dr. who suggested the teacher complete the paperwork and submitt it to the Dr., along with Terri's input for his evaluation.

If it is true (as we have been told) that Terri was insisting on stern punishment for Kyron each day that his behavior was not up to a certain strict standard, then it would not make sense that her purpose for requiring the daily updates was related only to an assessment of his symptoms for medical purposes.

What is the source for the stern punishment?  Do you have a link or can you direct me to the source?  I would like to read further into this aspect of the Horman household.  TIA-MK

[MuffyBee]

OT- This is about comments made last night about Beth Holloway:  (Bolded by me)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8546.msg1233447#msg1233447

Ok gang, like I mentioned before I will be doing a show on thursday night and will be addressing the Watts comments.
However I throw this out to you. I am will to also come on tonight live and take calls from you so you can have your thoughts known.
We dont have much time but I need to know if you are interested in calling in?

Let me know and when I see I have some interest in coming on I will. I will monitor here for 1 hour, please let me know by posting here or send me a email dana@scaredmonkeys.com

This is a chance to let your voice be heard.

If I see enough interest I will start at 8:30pm et

Dana

[Scandi]

They always say Occam's Razor-Occam's Razor.

I've tried to see what could be the simplest explanation vs the more complicated theories.  Today, I am still stuck back at the school.  (see my post on page #25 posts #498 & #499)
MK

Dear Puzzler, MK & Monks,

I agree.  It's simple.  It's not easy, (it's complicated), but it's simple (please see my new signature, below)!

But, like Deenie with her gym bag, me I keep going back to the island... the cell phone pings on the island.  The witness reports.  Kaine getting off work early.  White car/red mustang chasing around on the island... BP's houseboat on the island..  Death alerts off the houseboats... divers searching but not finding...Harry finding but LE not searching...

WHY do I keep going back to that !#$!*$% island, when I've never been there in my whole life?

Humpf.

I'm stomping outta here before I spontaneously combust.  I'll see you monkeys around the bend, cuz that's where I'm headed!



K. Cat.

Hi Kokos Cat,  The one thing I could say having been there is you would have to know where you were going to get down to the houseboats. 

They are about a 5 min drive after taking that left off the bridge heading north on the west side of the island.  When I drove it there was a lot of folliage that obstructed a good view of the houseboats themselves.  And what I could determine looking through the trees was that these people had to walk everything down the wood-planked walkway or take a small boat to get to their house.  I never did find the entrance to the place - didn't want to be too nosey ;}

There is also a houseboat development to the right as you start to go over the bridge - on the railroad side of the Channel.  I didn't think that was where LE was searching tho.  Not sure.

[Nana29]

That may be why Terri was requesting the daily updates on Kyron.  To see if someone else was seeing a change in his behavoir. Once it was determined, by the color coding system the teacher had, Terri notified the Dr. who suggested the teacher complete the paperwork and submitt it to the Dr., along with Terri's input for his evaluation.

If it is true (as we have been told) that Terri was insisting on stern punishment for Kyron each day that his behavior was not up to a certain strict standard, then it would not make sense that her purpose for requiring the daily updates was related only to an assessment of his symptoms for medical purposes.

What is the source for the stern punishment?  Do you have a link or can you direct me to the source?  I would like to read further into this aspect of the Horman household.  TIA-MK

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

Kaine said the teacher called parents about a blue or red card. But he said his wife was the only parent who asked for daily accounts from the teacher.

Terri HormanKyron Horman's mother, Desiree Young and step-mother Terri Moulton Horman listen during a news conference near Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland.
"Terri wanted notification whether it was green, yellow, red or blue," he said. "Every day she wanted it. That, to me, is extremely excessive. The child is in second grade."

He said when Kyron brought home anything but a green card she wanted Kaine to discipline him by grounding him to his room for the evening, eliminating play time or not letting him watch movies.

"There was no room for error," Kaine said.

The couple frequently argued about disciplining Kyron, he said.

[Monkey King]

That may be why Terri was requesting the daily updates on Kyron.  To see if someone else was seeing a change in his behavoir. Once it was determined, by the color coding system the teacher had, Terri notified the Dr. who suggested the teacher complete the paperwork and submitt it to the Dr., along with Terri's input for his evaluation.

If it is true (as we have been told) that Terri was insisting on stern punishment for Kyron each day that his behavior was not up to a certain strict standard, then it would not make sense that her purpose for requiring the daily updates was related only to an assessment of his symptoms for medical purposes.

What is the source for the stern punishment?  Do you have a link or can you direct me to the source?  I would like to read further into this aspect of the Horman household.  TIA-MK

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

Kaine said the teacher called parents about a blue or red card. But he said his wife was the only parent who asked for daily accounts from the teacher.

Terri HormanKyron Horman's mother, Desiree Young and step-mother Terri Moulton Horman listen during a news conference near Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland.
"Terri wanted notification whether it was green, yellow, red or blue," he said. "Every day she wanted it. That, to me, is extremely excessive. The child is in second grade."

He said when Kyron brought home anything but a green card she wanted Kaine to discipline him by grounding him to his room for the evening, eliminating play time or not letting him watch movies.

"There was no room for error," Kaine said.

The couple frequently argued about disciplining Kyron, he said.

Thank you, Nana.

[Nana29]

Desi...your are MORE than welcome!   
LLPOF!