Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 - 3/14/08

[Tamikosmom]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

Hi Ocean,good to see you all made it back home safe.

Considering that the van der sloots decided it was a GOOD thing to give their wayward,sicko,out of control son a line of credit at the casinos and carlos&Charlies bar,and his own little private party pad at the age of 15.....I'd say joran used his little apartment for sex parties,and that he took Natalee there(like he took all of his girls there,with his parents approval),Natalee was raped and over drugged and died there.Then they possibly moved her around the dirty little island a couple of times then out to sea.

Karma ... the following segment was taken from the New York lawsuit brought again Paulus and Joran van der Sloot by Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway. 

Janet

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HELEN LEJUEZ - ARUBAN FAMILY ATTORNEY

Affidavid of C. Helen Lejuez
<snipped>

5. ... Miss Doe told me that she was coming forward at that time because she had had an experience that might be similar to Natalee's experience.

6. Miss Doe informed me that, one evening during early in 2005, she met Joran van der Sloot at Carlos'n Charlie's nightclub in Aruba.

7. Miss Doe told me that, over the course of the night, Joran van der Sloot gave her several alcoholic beverages. Miss Doe further stated that she believes that Joran van der Sloot placed some kind of narcotic substance in one of her drinks. The reason she believes she was drugged is that her level of intoxication was greatly disportionate to the amount of alcohol that she consumed.

8. Later that night, according to Miss Doe, Joran Van der Sloot brought Miss Doe back to his apartment, adjacent to his parent's house.

9. Miss Doe then told me that she was sexually assaulted by Joran van der Sloot as she faded in and out of conciousness, At no time did Miss Doe consent to any sexual contact with Joran van der Sloot.

10. Miss Doe advised me that, shortly after she was sexually assaulted by Joran van der Sloot, she learned that two other young women, ages 16 and 17, suffered attacks by Joran van der Sloot under similar circumstances.
11. Miss Doe told me that, in the aftermath of Joran van der Sloot's attack on Miss Doe, she was threatened and intimidated by Joran van der Sloot, his friends and others. She had been terrified to come forward and tell her story in Aruba.


Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

[Observer]

Question:
Why would multiple legal professionals jeopardize their careers, livelihood, and freedom to cover for the VDSs?

-All very close friends?
- PvdS has dirt on them all and willing to use it as leverage?
- Blackmail?
 

Good question! We know Jan VDS was a very close friend,We know Dompig is related to the Kalpoes and we know he worked many years with the people in the Prosecuters office and as a lawyer for the Govt,plus he was a replacement Judge. Two weeks after Natalee dissapears and Joran's Attorney relieves his conscious and tells the Chief Prosecuter that Joran plays a major role in Natalee's dissapearance..What does she do? Nothing! The Judge says the OM never asked to search anything more than his Apt. They say they were denied? Who is lying and Why?

My guess is they thought it would all go away and his friends helped him cover everything up..Problem is it never went away and they couldn't go back and re-do the damage they already did..Not exactly sure why on June 10th and 11th they reported a confession,natalee confirmed dead and were retreaving her body..It all changed in a heartbeat and it was the closest we have seen to this being solved. Van Der Sloots,Wevers and whoever else probably blackmailed Rudy Croes and he did a complete 180 and announced that it was all mis-information.

If you look at the recent history of Aruba there hasnt been a murder in 13 years of a American as they all have dissapeared or killed themselves. We also the report of the gangrape/filming of the 16 year old as she was forced to move elsewhere and received no justice..I think it's part of the mentality of the island,blackmail and a cover up that went to deep and involved too many.

[JE]

Question:
Why would multiple legal professionals jeopardize their careers, livelihood, and freedom to cover for the VDSs?

-All very close friends?
- PvdS has dirt on them all and willing to use it as leverage?
- Blackmail?
 

ALL OF THE ABOVE and probably a few more. Add The Mafia and its storefront tourism organizations ATA/AHATA in there. Paulus probably has some connections there, his business partner Antonio Carlo, Joran's lawyer, sits on the board of AHATA and they are the ones who attacked Natalee and Beth in the media.

Once you start lying its hard to go back and lose face. This is probably even more true for people in higher positions.
So what other choice ist there but to maintain that the lies are the truth

[Dayhiker]

Perhaps I can clarify things a bit.  The press always seems to word things so they sound worse than they are. 

The search was not flat out "called-off".  The side scan sonar search is complete.  We covered all of the planned area (and other non-planned areas) with 200% coverage.  This means every inch of seabed was covered twice on average over about 50 sq miles. Many sonar targets were identified and explored with the first round of ROV dives between Dec 29th to about the 7th of January.  What has not been completed is the ROV dives on sonar targets found after about the 2nd week of January through the end of the sonar search.  These targets (as well as the first dive series picks) were picked under the assumption that any type of containment of human remains should be explored, rather than just fish traps.  This method makes no guesses as to what we "know" or "don't know" about the case, rather it leaves no stone unturned. Once adequate funding is procured a dedicated ROV vessel and crew will complete the dives.  A ROV boat is more efficient and economical at conducting the ROV dives than the Persistence with it's extra equipment and personnel.
In this case it's best to return to the site with exactly the right equipment to do the job.  The remotely operated vehicle (ROV) that is eventually sent to Aruba will be better suited for the deepest dive sites.  It will also come equipped with better recovery capabilities if necessary.  For working in the deepest portions of the search area, the SeaEye Falcon ROV had potentially insufficient tether and therefore may not have been able to reach the deepest targets. 
I look at this as a retreat.  By retreat, I mean a temporary strategic withdrawal from battle, work, or operations. It is best to return home to re-tool, plan, and procure funding rather than pressing forward beyond financial, technical, and physical limits.

I am amazed at the patience and thoroughness you folks have. I pray the funding will come availlable to finish the ROV dives that will lead to answers OE.

Any off the wall stuff you can to tell us about the whole experience?

[Tamikosmom]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Uitgeverij Foreign Media Books laat maandag weten dat 'Overboord. Hoe ik Joran van der Sloot aan het praten kreeg' rond 25 juni verschijnt.

Publisher Foreign Media Books announced Monday that 'Overboard. How I got Joran van der Sloot to talk' will be published June 25.

http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=62967/contentid=917917/sc=5e16df

I won't be buying...Until it reads,"How I brought down the corruption in Aruba and made the guilty pay", I want none of it....

Tot ... I am with ya.

The implication of Peter Devries' words dictates that you and I will not be buying Patrick van der Eem's book any time soon.  Devries uphold Hans Mos and ... the Natalee Holloway investigative team.

Janet

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Peter Devries
On the Record w/ Greta
February 8, 2008

DE VRIES: Well, the Dutch police is very busy with the investigation. That's what I understood. And they are looking for this guy, whoever it may be.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, do you have confidence in the Dutch police and the Aruba police in terms of this investigation?

DE VRIES: Yes. I met several guys from the team. I spoke to Hans Mos, the head prosecutor, and I'm confident, quite confident, that they will solve this case finally.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html

[Peaches]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

Short and to the point.  Natalee was raped and murdered at the Sloots.

I'd go so far as to say she was in the Kalpoe trunk during the confrontation at the Sloot residence.

[Observer]

Interesting to look at the islands yearbooks..Such a small class but yet so many with the same last name..Kock,Arendsz,Arends,Maduro..Croes..and yes Wever 

That is interesting.Lot of them look unhappy,mainly the girls.Wonder if we can find one with Lorenzo in it?

I stumbled onto a couple of years at that school but well before Lorenzo's time  No one real important in the yearbooks except Robert Wever,you may see a couple of ministers..But no one tied into this case that I know of.

http://www.colegiopariba.freeservers.com/index.html

[Blue Moon]

Question:
Why would multiple legal professionals jeopardize their careers, livelihood, and freedom to cover for the VDSs?

-All very close friends?
- PvdS has dirt on them all and willing to use it as leverage?
- Blackmail?
 

All very close friends.  Dutch elitists. Cannot associate with anyone beneath them. Must believe whatever comes from their mouths.  Mind-set of the Dutch/Aruban.  Must never go against one of your own when it is an American involved.  Nothing more than the U.S. has had thrown at us for years.  We are the Cowboys, they are the wronged party.

[KarmaRoundUp]

I wonder if this is Val van der sloot......

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/i-born-aruba-1954-a-27399/index2.html


 08-28-2007, 08:15 AM    post #12 (permalink)   

Valentijn
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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What a surprise to see so many former Lago High student posts! I am currently a senior at the International School of Aruba, which as some of you may know was, 75 years ago, known at the Lago Hights Community High School. I'm sitting here looking at yearbooks from as far back as 1948, all the way up to the present. I am a member of the yearbook staff and in this year's book we want to include a look back at the past section. I was wondering if there were any old Lago High and/or ISA alumni that wanted to contact me with any fun facts and any stories about the school in general. I am AMAZED when I look back at the pictures of the activities and events that used to take place in the Colony and although the school has since moved into a brand new building Lago Hights (now Valero refinary) is where it all started.
     

[truthseeker2]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

I believe they were there.  In Greta's interview with Joran he told her they stopped by his house, but did not get out of the car.  Deepak and Satish have never stated this to be true.  Both Kalpoes said they drove by the lighthouse, not Joran's house.

It is during this point where Joran claims they sat in the car and talked outside of the Van Der Sloot property. This is the place where Joran claims that Natalee made negative comments about the Kalpoes and her own mother.  Since Deepak told ALE that he never heard Natalee make any of those comments you have to figure this is something Joran made up in his own mind.  Sitting 'outside' his home talking to Natalee??  This is the place where Joran wants to think of Natalee as a bad person.  imo

[Tater]

Posted by Lazlo at RU:

Uitgeverij Foreign Media Books laat maandag weten dat 'Overboord. Hoe ik Joran van der Sloot aan het praten kreeg' rond 25 juni verschijnt.

Publisher Foreign Media Books announced Monday that 'Overboard. How I got Joran van der Sloot to talk' will be published June 25.

http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=62967/contentid=917917/sc=5e16df

I won't be buying...Until it reads,"How I brought down the corruption in Aruba and made the guilty pay", I want none of it....

Tot ... I am with ya.

The implication of Peter Devries' words dictates that you and I will not be buying Patrick van der Eem's book any time soon.  Devries uphold Hans Mos and ... the Natalee Holloway investigative team.

Janet

++++++++++++


Peter Devries
On the Record w/ Greta
February 8, 2008

DE VRIES: Well, the Dutch police is very busy with the investigation. That's what I understood. And they are looking for this guy, whoever it may be.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, do you have confidence in the Dutch police and the Aruba police in terms of this investigation?

DE VRIES: Yes. I met several guys from the team. I spoke to Hans Mos, the head prosecutor, and I'm confident, quite confident, that they will solve this case finally.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html

I know..  It sickens me to think of people making money off of an 18 year old girl who was murdered in Aruba.Patrick gave us nothing.As far as I'm concerned,they could all be in *cahoots* to make millions.I definitly won't be contributing to their efforts. I'll contribute to having the blade on the guillotine sharpened when it's off with a few heads but as for now,I'm keeping my pennies...Hugs Janet,it's good to not be alone in my way of thinking...

[Dayhiker]

Question:
Why would multiple legal professionals jeopardize their careers, livelihood, and freedom to cover for the VDSs?

-All very close friends?
- PvdS has dirt on them all and willing to use it as leverage?
- Blackmail?
 

All very close friends.  Dutch elitists. Cannot associate with anyone beneath them. Must believe whatever comes from their mouths.  Mind-set of the Dutch/Aruban.  Must never go against one of your own when it is an American involved.  Nothing more than the U.S. has had thrown at us for years.  We are the Cowboys, they are the wronged party.

Literally everything thing they could do wrong, they did it. There is no logic to any of it from the investigation to the disastrous PR campaign they ran against Natalee and the family.

They will pay for this for a long time. Their greed and egos overwhelmed their integrity, common sense and decency.

[truthseeker2]

The Persistence is completing its last leg of the journey home.  It should arrive some time on Wed.  Incredibly, the Persistence never saw anything over 4ft seas the entire way from Aruba to Mexico with 2kt currents and the wind at its stern - it made awesome time.  It had to spend a few days in Mexico where it refueled until the Gulf calmed down, but it's good to go now.  Thanks for all the prayers. 

What good fortune you had on the return trip!  I know you can't wait to dock in the good ole U.S. of A.!!!

[oceanexploration]

It's interesting to me how the water offshore Aruba is rather allegorical of the Island's condition. 

Near the beach the ocean is shallow, full of life, vibrant - so full of color and character, quiescent, and safe.  It's absolutely beautiful, promising, and inviting.  The water is refreshing, clean, and good.

Offshore, the water becomes suddenly deep, dark and cold.  You get out of the lee of the island and the sea becomes volatile and unforgiving.  It'll be calm one minute, and a torrent the next.  It is a deceptive environment which looks inviting but only seeks to devour.  A large portion of the area literally means "don't go there".  If you are unfamiliar with the nature of the environment, you won't realize the 4kt current silently whisking you farther into the open ocean. The hidden dangers are evident in the wrecks which have fallen as victims of the turmoil.

If only these conditions were unique to Aruba. 

[texasmom]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

I agree with Dave and you, OE.  I believe the VDS residence played an important role in this case.  The MB kids that interacted with JVDS before the fateful evening ALL said that he claimed to be a college student from Holland on holiday in Aruba.  I believe that Natalee was only taken to the house after she'd been drugged, BUT WAS AT THE VDS RESIDENCE at some point during the night in question.  I believe that is why he includes a visit to his house during his interview with Greta Van Sustern.  I believe he felt there could have been witnesses to the Kalpoe car being there during that night.  He says that Natalee wanted to go there, but Natalee didn't know he had a house in Aruba, she thought as the other MB students that he was staying at the Holiday Inn as they were.  It's amazing how he mixes a little truth into a lot of lies in all of his statements.  I've snipped portions of his interview with Greta Van Sustern.

Greta Interview with JVDS part 1 snip

 VAN DER SLOOT: No, it was just, yes, it was just they turn off the music and they turn off everything and it was just time to go, yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Had you made any agreement or arrangement with Natalee at that point to leave with her or anything?
VAN DER SLOOT: No, not at all. That came very spontaneously. She's like, "OK, you want me to go with you?" And I was like "OK." And I saw her go up to some of her friends. I don't know what she said to them. And then, yes, then we — then we ended up leaving. The plan was to go to my house.


VAN DER SLOOT: I told her I was 19, when I was actually 17 but, yes.


VAN SUSTEREN: Did you say where, you know, your plans or anything like that what you wanted to do? I mean was there that much of a dialog between you?
VAN DER SLOOT: Not really. I mean I never really got to actually know her. I really didn't actually ever get, you know, to know her like you know a friend or you know someone like that. It was just casual talking. You know a little about each other and that's all it was.

VAN DER SLOOT: No, just between me and Natalee. We were speaking English to each other and I asked her if she wanted to go back to her hotel and that's when she said that she wanted to — she asked me if I -- if I had a big house or not and then — then she said — I said to her "Do you want to see my house?" And she's like "Yes, I want to go to your house."

VAN SUSTEREN: So you leave Carlos 'nCharlie's and your intention was to head to your house. Did you actually head to your house?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, we did. We actually did end up heading to my house because that's what she was — that's what she wanted to, so I was fine with it. And then during the car ride she was — she had her hand on my — on my leg and I had my hand on her leg and we were both in the back. We were kissing each other and so I took (INAUDIBLE) in a — in a positive not in a bad way.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did you ever actually make it to your house?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, we did. We actually did stop in front of my house. We got to my house and then, yes then I — then she said she wanted to go see sharks.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did you actually go into your house with her?
VAN DER SLOOT: No, no, no. We never even got out of the car there.
VAN SUSTEREN: She had no interest in going into your house? She didn't say anything?
VAN DER SLOOT: No, at that point she wanted — she wanted to go see sharks is what she said and then she came with a strange story that her mom was Hitler's sister or Hitler's sister's daughter and she was sorry to me for that because — because I don't know if she thought I was German or something and I'm like "I'm Dutch, so I don't really care about anything like that." And I asked, "You're joking right?" And she said, "No, no, no, no, I'm serious. I'm serious."
Just another example of that is, you know, that's a strange story. That makes absolutely no sense. Why would you say something like that if it's not true? But there's actually police reports of one of her friends that says she told her the same thing.

(on the beach conv per JVDS)
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I told her that — I lied to her that I was 19. I said that I was going to go study in the states at St. Leo (ph) University and, you know, I was just — we were just having casual talk talking about stuff.

JVDS says that Natalee wanted to go to his house and that it was his intention from the beginning to take her to his house.  (If you read the interview with Greta it was his intention to have sex with her.  I don't believe he took her to the beach to have sex with her.)  But then the minute they pull up in front of his house, she wants to see sharks.  He says "WE NEVER EVEN GOT OUT OF THE CAR THERE."  When Greta presses him and he senses that she's not buying the story he starts the crapola about Natalee saying her mother was related to Hitler.
 
If Natalee was NEVER in the house, why have the extreme measures been taken to prevent a search of the house?  What could they possibly have found that would have related to the case if she'd never been there.  Why did PVDS sweat gallons during the interview with his wife by Greta and Beth.  Beth sensed that she'd been there.   I think AVDS knew she had been too.  I think she was too.  I know there's more that I've left out but I hope this makes sense! 
 

[Observer]

I wonder if this is Val van der sloot......

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/i-born-aruba-1954-a-27399/index2.html

It's probably him..

[San]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

Short and to the point.  Natalee was raped and murdered at the Sloots.

I'd go so far as to say she was in the Kalpoe trunk during the confrontation at the Sloot residence.

I agree Peaches.

[Dayhiker]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

I believe they were there.  In Greta's interview with Joran he told her they stopped by his house, but did not get out of the car.  Deepak and Satish have never stated this to be true.  Both Kalpoes said they drove by the lighthouse, not Joran's house.

It is during this point where Joran claims they sat in the car and talked outside of the Van Der Sloot property. This is the place where Joran claims that Natalee made negative comments about the Kalpoes and her own mother.  Since Deepak told ALE that he never heard Natalee make any of those comments you have to figure this is something Joran made up in his own mind.  Sitting 'outside' his home talking to Natalee??  This is the place where Joran wants to think of Natalee as a bad person.  imo

One of the few times we have heard Chief Dolf Richardson say jack he said that he believed they never were at the beach but very well could have been at the Van der Sloot house. Of course that was almost two years ago and Dolf still hasn't done jack.

[KarmaRoundUp]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

Hi Ocean,good to see you all made it back home safe.

Considering that the van der sloots decided it was a GOOD thing to give their wayward,sicko,out of control son a line of credit at the casinos and carlos&Charlies bar,and his own little private party pad at the age of 15.....I'd say joran used his little apartment for sex parties,and that he took Natalee there(like he took all of his girls there,with his parents approval),Natalee was raped and over drugged and died there.Then they possibly moved her around the dirty little island a couple of times then out to sea.

Karma ... the following segment was taken from the New York lawsuit brought again Paulus and Joran van der Sloot by Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway. 

Janet

++++++++++++

HELEN LEJUEZ - ARUBAN FAMILY ATTORNEY

Affidavid of C. Helen Lejuez
<snipped>

5. ... Miss Doe told me that she was coming forward at that time because she had had an experience that might be similar to Natalee's experience.

6. Miss Doe informed me that, one evening during early in 2005, she met Joran van der Sloot at Carlos'n Charlie's nightclub in Aruba.

7. Miss Doe told me that, over the course of the night, Joran van der Sloot gave her several alcoholic beverages. Miss Doe further stated that she believes that Joran van der Sloot placed some kind of narcotic substance in one of her drinks. The reason she believes she was drugged is that her level of intoxication was greatly disportionate to the amount of alcohol that she consumed.

8. Later that night, according to Miss Doe, Joran Van der Sloot brought Miss Doe back to his apartment, adjacent to his parent's house.

9. Miss Doe then told me that she was sexually assaulted by Joran van der Sloot as she faded in and out of conciousness, At no time did Miss Doe consent to any sexual contact with Joran van der Sloot.

10. Miss Doe advised me that, shortly after she was sexually assaulted by Joran van der Sloot, she learned that two other young women, ages 16 and 17, suffered attacks by Joran van der Sloot under similar circumstances.
11. Miss Doe told me that, in the aftermath of Joran van der Sloot's attack on Miss Doe, she was threatened and intimidated by Joran van der Sloot, his friends and others. She had been terrified to come forward and tell her story in Aruba.


Jossy Mansur
'Scarborough Country'
August 26, 2005

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

Thank you Janet.
The pimps of aruba live on it seems,I wonder if they were taught this game by their Daddy's.

[Tamikosmom]

I must with Dave that the Sloot residence played an important role.  What's the consensus here...

To what extent was the VDS residence used in NH's dissapearance?

Short and to the point.  Natalee was raped and murdered at the Sloots.

I'd go so far as to say she was in the Kalpoe trunk during the confrontation at the Sloot residence.

Peaches ... Jug Twitty's words implies that he believe that Natalee could have been in Deepak's trunk at the encounter at the VDS' residence on the morning of May 31, 2005.

At that point in time ... Jug never entertained the thought that a coverup to distance Joran and Paulus van der Sloot and ... deny his precious stepdaughter justice had already begun.

Janet

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Jug Twitty
On the Record w/ Greta
July 19, 2005

TWITTY: I think he's going to get down there and start asking questions. I mean, there are so many things that went wrong in the beginning. And probably people know by now, Beth said the other night, we had an agent there on the ground when we got there with a chaperone, and we didn't find out until two days ago that this is an American — I think he was a DEA agent. I think he was just there vacationing, though. But anyway, he helped us that night, and he also waited and said, Wait before you go to the judge's house. I want to go with you.

And I find out two days ago that the Aruban authorities never took this man's statement. Beth and I are going, It's unbelievable. But you know what? They didn't take my statement until 30 days later, and I sat there and talked to the man for two hours, and his son. And they didn't take any of the statements from the people that were there. I probably had seven people in my so-called search party that night that we hit the ground, and it took them 19 days to take their statements.

So you know, if I had it all to do over again, Greta, when we got to that judge's house that night, we would have taken — we had three vans. I would have blocked that car in, and if I didn't think, you know, that the police were going to do anything the next morning, I would have parked those cars there and let them tow them away until I could open that car, open that trunk and look in that silver car the next morning.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162966,00.html