Natalee Case Discussion #822 7/28/09 - 8/13/09

[Kermit]

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Glad you were able to get in touch with Art yesterday and thank you for sending this information to the university.

I'm sorry you were worried about your picture being on the internet. I talked to Reality today and he said to reassure you he would never do anything like that. I told you he wouldn't, but I do hope that makes you feel better!

Take care and thanks for calling!

Robin
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[San]

I always picture Reality as a bitter disabled man.  That is how he comes across to me.

After reading all of this I am come to the conclusion he has major issues.

[Magnolia]

I always picture Reality as a bitter disabled man.  That is how he comes across to me.

After reading all of this I am come to the conclusion he has major issues.

I always imagine him in a wheelchair.

No doubt he has issues.....mental ones!

[Blue Moon]

How did Reality get involved in all this unless he worked for AHATA or he has a time share in Aruba? 

[Rob]

you have to admit Reality / Alvin / Ole Green Teeth is one of the biggest drama queens in this whole thing. Lack of breast feeding me thinks. 

[San]

How did Reality get involved in all this unless he worked for AHATA or he has a time share in Aruba? 

or he is related to someone.

[Tamikosmom]

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« Reply #15 on: Today at 06:42:22 PM »
   
I can verify the Robin is Robin Holloway... I can also verify that Meri was, and probably still is, going to "out" BFN.  A few if us have known this for a few days. The names listed by Robin are the ones that she plans to belittle.

Ramm is a wonderful person and our translator... thank him for ALL the translations that we have.

Reality may have come off as bad to some but he has been a great friend to me and has helped me a lot behind the scenes looking for stuff.

 

RAMM - WONDERFUL PERSON

RAMM - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Beth Twitty, The News-Circus And The Natalee Holloway Case
By Peter van der Vliet
Oct. 12, 2005

I normally give people the benefit of the doubt but my willingness to give Beth Twitty that benefit is quickly running out, and it's purely due to her and her entourages behavior who are according to me are becoming a hindrance to the case and are no longer part of the solution. Also what I read in the transcripts of shows like Nancy Grace really shows me that an atmosphere of hatred is being created toward Aruba, it's government and the Aruban people. And in this game of spreading hate Beth Twitty is now playing an increasing part especially since her public union with Joe Mammana ...

THE TWITTY'S, THAT FIRST NIGHT IN ARUBA AND HOW THEY ARE BECOMING PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT OF THE SOLUTION

I have reservations with some of the things Beth Twitty claims, she constantly says she has evidence but never produces it, she claims to have tapes (or at least Skeeter has) but so far they have not produced them to the legal authorities, sources say those tapes were made way before Joran was released (even before the re-arrest of the Kalpoes) and then one wonders why it took so long to refer to these tapes, claims Beth and Jug make on the sensationalistic news-shows without any proof.

But my biggest disbelieve is the story they are telling about the first night, she and her husband Jug claim that Joran took Jug to the side that first night and told him all about what he and Natalee had done the night before, even about the sex etc. Now I may have some faith in some of her claims but this one is totally unbelievable in my eyes. Why would Joran take the father (stepfather but who cares) to the side and confess things he didn't even confess too in hours of intense questioning by gangs of police officers in 12 or 13 hour sessions of questioning?? I am sorry but what Beth, Jug and their friends are claiming was said during that first night, I don't put much stock in their stories/declarations.

About the author: Peter van der Vliet is a 36 year old man who lives in the Netherlands, he is a keen visitor of several internet messageboards and loves to write in the English language. Peter is a keen follower of international politics and worldhistory.

Email: peter_van_der_vliet@yahoo.co.uk

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/oct/article161.html


REALITY - GREAT FRIEND

REALITY – IN HIS OWN WORDS

Reality:  How is the conclusion arrived at that Joran was wild?  From what I have read, seen and heard, this young fellow seems pretty normal, nothing wilder than the MB Kids that were on Aruba.  In fact, a little pussy-cat when compared to kids that age that I have seen and don't even begin to tell me that does not apply to kids from the US.  One has to take much of the slandering of this kid with a pinch of salt, these are enuendos put forth by the Right Wing US Media, much the same as was applied to the alledged victim of Duke.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4006.msg121427


Reality:  From what I have been reading over the past 15 months, there is absolutely no evidence of foul play

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4670.msg158480#msg158480


Reality:  Those MB Brats, I wonder if they have started talking yet, possibly in the last year, whilst in the real world and away from the bosoms of their Mama's ?

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4226.msg148163#msg148163

[Rob]

Ramm's a Dutch guy that blew half of the Dutch to English translations. He's a real wizard. 

Dungeons and Dragons anyone? or kibble-n-bits?

[Kermit]

How did Reality get involved in all this unless he worked for AHATA or he has a time share in Aruba? 

or he is related to someone.

That is interesting since Clevan said Reality was offered a job by Posner
and Reality talks porn/sex to all these women in PMs and on the phone.

[Tamikosmom]

REALITY

Quote from: Reality on June 02, 2006, 06:54:38 AM

Dear Curves,

I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.

You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.

As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.

Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.
Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.

Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.
 
Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.

You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.

If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=2854.150

[Magnolia]

REALITY

Quote from: Reality on June 02, 2006, 06:54:38 AM

Dear Curves,

I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.

You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.

As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.

Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.
Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.

Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.
 
Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.

You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.

If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=2854.150

Fishy at RU always posts like it is in Aruba.

[San]

How did Reality get involved in all this unless he worked for AHATA or he has a time share in Aruba? 

or he is related to someone.

That is interesting since Clevan said Reality was offered a job by Posner
and Reality talks porn/sex to all these women in PMs and on the phone.

To all these women that he never had an interest in due to a gender conflict.

[Tamikosmom]

PETER VAN DER VLIET AKA RAMMSTEIN

RAMM - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Rammstein:  He (Paulus) only briefly looked at some sites, downloading a few pictures. Maybe he was just looking for pictures. That is what people do who go to Google images you know (at least that is what I do when looking for pictures ) because if PvdS had been looking for articles/information he would have used google.com proper and given a bit more specific search-queries IMHO like "alcohol XTC" "or "alcohol drugs" etc.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg145333#msg145333

Rammstein:  This has nothing to do with believe but with the facts. Fact is that Paul barely had the pages open long enough to read them. And we don't even know what kind of law-firm he was looking at.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg144988#msg144988

Rammstein: His (Paulus) son, yes, he lied like it was going out of fashion but he cannot help it if his son lies to the police.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg143724#msg143724

Rammstein:  IMHO there have been no improper judicial decisions. All the decisions were made in accordance with law and jurisprudence. The judge may only use as evidence the materials that are presented during trial. If the DA doesn't do what it is supposed to do and present "legal and convincing" evidence then no judge will rule for the prosecution.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg141447#msg141447

Rammstein:  In other words, a man in a dark uniform was described, not a dark-skinned man. Why the police then arrested 2 dark skinned guards was probably because of their "detective work" and not because the K2 brothers had fingered black coloured men.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4356.msg139097#msg139097

Rammstein:  If Natalee had never been in the main house and only possibly have been in the appartement, what reasoning did the police have to search the dwelling where Natalee had never set foot in?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4436.msg138402#msg138402

Rammstein:  Yes, he (Joran) got permission to play poker, a poker tournament (free poker tournament). He wasn't allowed (from what I have heard) to gamble with real money, just poker in the free tournaments.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg147338#msg147338

Rammstein:  Why pick up a person that most likely was already at home at that time. Maybe Valentijn Even heard his brother come in at 3.25am (or thereabouts). Anyway, if Joran didn't call the house (and that is not likely because in none of the statements so far he has been asked about him calling his own house that night) then it is not very likely that his dad had a premination to go pick up his son at McD's that night. What you don't know you cannot do.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4518.msg146207#msg146207

Rammstein:  That was denied by Paul (him ever having said that) and again, Joran was already home at that moment in time. How can he go and pick up a son that is safely sitting at home?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg143729#msg143729

Peter van der Vliet:  If this Twitty person has a problem about how our kingdom is run she can get the hell out of it. People like that we can do without.
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Re: Robin Holloway: Natalee's Step Angel!
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Most of you know that I joke and kid around on the board. What few of you do know is that I have personally had the pleasure of getting to know Robin Holloway. What I have learned about this wonderful LADY is that she has a caring and kind heart. In our many phone conversations she has never failed to talk about Natalee, often sharing small personal things that she knows and loves about her. Through Robin, I have come to know Natalee, and that is a wonderful gift that I have been allowed.
Her admiration and love for Dave comes through in the tone of her voice when she mentions his name and how tirelessly he has searched for his lovely daughter, never giving up.
Robin has a great sense of humour and she also cares deeply about BFN and Debbie, of whom she speaks of with great love and respect as well as the members of this forum who have been an inspiration to her and her family in this time of terrible loss and tragedy.
« Last Edit: Today at 03:35:28 PM by Reality »

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4686.15

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« Reply #20 on: Today at 03:30:30 PM »
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Most of you know that I joke and kid around on the board. What few of you do know is that I have personally had the pleasure of getting to know Robin Holloway. What I have learned about this wonderful LADY is that she has a caring and kind heart. In our many phone conversations she has never failed to talk about Natalee, often sharing small personal things that she knows and loves about her. Through Robin, I have come to know Natalee, and that is a wonderful gift that I have been allowed.
Her admiration and love for Dave comes through in the tone of her voice when she mentions his name and how tirelessly he has searched for his lovely daughter, never giving up.
Robin has a great sense of humour and she also cares deeply about BFN and Debbie, of whom she speaks of with great love and respect as well as the members of this forum who have been an inspiration to her and her family in this time of terrible loss and tragedy.
« Last Edit: Today at 03:35:28 PM by Reality »

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4686.15

Robin sounds like a star-struck female who was taken in under his spell.  Maybe she like the way he talked?  Maybe she loved the compliments he through her way.  Whatever it was I don't believe I will ever comprehend it myself.

[San]

Just sayin

[klaasend]

Just sayin

OMG 

[Magnolia]

Just sayin