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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10 (Read 1003263 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 13, 2010, 10:53:45 AM »
Sharon,
Thanks for finding that Boxtel information for us. I tend to think this is an example of Paulus "Wiretaps" sd Sloot's character being highlighted going way back. He would rather endanger the lives of children being exposed to excess traffic than have to sell some of his family property it would seem
And this is long before Natalee came on the scene but gives us a look at what "Wiretaps" was all about. IMO.
I am enjoying the new Burn Notice episodes tremendously and it shows your beautiful city to perfection.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Quote from: BUCKSHOT on February 13, 2010, 10:39:01 AM
PVDS' death sure throws a MonkeyWrench into the mix...
One thing was for sure...PVDS was a major piece to this case(in many aspects):
(1) direct/indirect participant in crime
(2) colleague to power players in investigation (VdStraaten, Judges, etc)
(3) associate/player within underworld structure
(4) backbone to his immediate VDS family
(5) cover agent for all JVDS blunders, Aruba and abroad
(6) advisor for legal matters regarding case (Statement Proof Reader, Tacopina, etc)
Only time will tell how things shake out from here (in his absence)...
disarray is where it's at. It will be interesting to see who speaks first - and I mean from a position of authority. He / She who speaks first will now be revealed as the main participant in this cover-up.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 13, 2010, 11:02:13 AM »
If your last name is Kalpoe and you live in Hooiberg, you are sooooo screwed.
Court case collapsing, facing an exorbitant legal bill for suing and causing undue harm to the reputation of Paramount and Dr. Phil, and to top it off, the head of your cover-up has now met his maker.
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February 13, 2010, 11:02:22 AM »
Beth is much too dignified and a lady to say it and she has a position to mantain speaking to young people all the time, role model and all of that.
But I have no such qualms to deal with and will not hesitate to ask. Why all the elaborate funeral plans for Paulus? Transportation, cremation back in his home country, etc.
Natalee had a home country as well, Sweet Home Alabama.
Anita, why don't you just dump Paulus in the ocean. crab trap optional? You know, the way Joran says he did Natalee?
Maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed or something this morning, not sure. But I feel angry as h*ll when I think about "Wiretaps" having full regalia ceremonial burial and Natalee being thrown out like the trash!
I will go drink additional coffee and hope for a better mood to prevail.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 13, 2010, 11:04:39 AM »
Quote from: Rob on February 13, 2010, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on February 13, 2010, 10:39:01 AM
PVDS' death sure throws a MonkeyWrench into the mix...
One thing was for sure...PVDS was a major piece to this case(in many aspects):
(1) direct/indirect participant in crime
(2) colleague to power players in investigation (VdStraaten, Judges, etc)
(3) associate/player within underworld structure
(4) backbone to his immediate VDS family
(5) cover agent for all JVDS blunders, Aruba and abroad
(6) advisor for legal matters regarding case (Statement Proof Reader, Tacopina, etc)
Only time will tell how things shake out from here (in his absence)...
disarray is where it's at. It will be interesting to see who speaks first - and I mean from a position of authority. He / She who speaks first will now be revealed as the main participant in this cover-up.
There is no doubt that this case cut PVDS' life many years short.
His duties (in the aftermath of the crime) probably gifted him many sleepless nights.
PVDS had to micro-manage every one of the aforementioned on a daily basis.
The void of his presence (due to death) can not be filled; PVDS simply wore too many hats.
I would imagine it to be a given that the code of silence will remain.
My hope is that down the line, his absence will allow information to flow more freely.
I think his immediate family (Joran, Anita) are less respected than him amongst his crooked associates.
Time will, most certainly, tell............
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Quote from: Rob on February 13, 2010, 11:02:13 AM
If your last name is Kalpoe and you live in Hooiberg, you are sooooo screwed.
Court case collapsing, facing an exorbitant legal bill for suing and causing undue harm to the reputation of Paramount and Dr. Phil, and to top it off, the head of your cover-up has now met his maker.
No more poolside meetings...
Lots of "looking over thy shoulders" coming soon to a theater near them.
Better sleep with "Eyes Wide Open".....
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February 13, 2010, 11:09:50 AM »
I can just hear the scheming gears of deceit grinding over at the AHATA offices right now. Cooking up schemes is what they do best and the Kalpoes have a target right on their coconut shaped heads.
Can't wait to see which Kalpoe flies under the bus first.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 13, 2010, 11:16:15 AM »
If (and when) they are not awarded (their nationally backed) lawsuit proceeds in California...
Their first two phone calls should be:
(1) To Mama - Let her know that they won't be home anytime soon, AND
(2) To a Real Estate Agent - To begin searching for a local apartment.
Don't think they will be so well recieved if they were to arrive home empty handed...
This court case is their only relevance to Aruba at the moment...That is a fact...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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February 13, 2010, 11:22:41 AM »
Quote from: Anna on February 13, 2010, 11:02:22 AM
Beth is much too dignified and a lady to say it and she has a position to mantain speaking to young people all the time, role model and all of that.
But I have no such qualms to deal with and will not hesitate to ask. Why all the elaborate funeral plans for Paulus? Transportation, cremation back in his home country, etc.
Natalee had a home country as well, Sweet Home Alabama.
Anita, why don't you just dump Paulus in the ocean. crab trap optional? You know, the way Joran says he did Natalee?
Maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed or something this morning, not sure. But I feel angry as h*ll when I think about "Wiretaps" having full regalia ceremonial burial and Natalee being thrown out like the trash!
I will go drink additional coffee and hope for a better mood to prevail.
.
Ditto... may we join you?
I'll bring the donuts! Party, party, morning party at Anna's
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 13, 2010, 02:11:33 AM
SHANGO/SIMIAN
WHAT SAY YOU?
Remember he said the family would be destroyed and go back to Holland?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Quote from: Bearlyhere on February 13, 2010, 12:24:18 AM
Quote from: Frijole on February 12, 2010, 10:57:10 PM
Klass, that was the funniest ever. Does Joran play tennis? LMAO
He used to, but now he doesn't have the balls.
Klaas-that was everything in a nutshell-lol!
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Quote from: Rob on February 13, 2010, 11:09:50 AM
I can just hear the scheming gears of deceit grinding over at the AHATA offices right now. Cooking up schemes is what they do best and the Kalpoes have a target right on
their coconut shaped heads
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Can't wait to see which Kalpoe flies under the bus first.
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Hi everyone, over 30 hours with no electricity....just a little over 40 degrees in my living room right now.....the tree fell on the power line ending up about 3 feet from the house...for that I'm thankful; and so glad to be back! I've got some catching up to do! BBL
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There is always a philosophy for lack of courage.
- Albert Camus
Paulus, devotee of the absurd, expected others to understand. It did not happen.
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Quote from: IBE on February 13, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Anna on February 13, 2010, 11:02:22 AM
Beth is much too dignified and a lady to say it and she has a position to mantain speaking to young people all the time, role model and all of that.
But I have no such qualms to deal with and will not hesitate to ask. Why all the elaborate funeral plans for Paulus? Transportation, cremation back in his home country, etc.
Natalee had a home country as well, Sweet Home Alabama.
Anita, why don't you just dump Paulus in the ocean. crab trap optional? You know, the way Joran says he did Natalee?
Maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed or something this morning, not sure. But I feel angry as h*ll when I think about "Wiretaps" having full regalia ceremonial burial and Natalee being thrown out like the trash!
I will go drink additional coffee and hope for a better mood to prevail.
.
Ditto... may we join you?
I'll bring the donuts! Party, party, morning party at Anna's
Oh, yes, by all means, IBE! Coffee and Hot Chocolate on me! And I will get some fresh fruit for those who want it. I want a lemon-filled Krispy Kreme!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on February 13, 2010, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: Northern Rose on February 12, 2010, 11:29:32 AM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/462969/2010/02/12/Joran-mag-naar-begrafenis-vader.dhtml
Translated
Joran can father to burial
AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot is no problem to Aruba to say goodbye to his father. '' According to Chief mr Peter Whites is "an arrest is not appropriate in this situation. It also provides an examination not cause an arrest on his arrival.''
The De Telegraaf reported today.
"
If Joran still must come to court, we will decide later this year
", says the Chief. "It is a complex matter, partly because there never was a body found." (EBO)
and the beat goes on....they have been saying 'later this year' for 4 freakin' years
Paul's death will change nothing.
I agree ... they have no intention of ever doing anything, imo.
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Quote from: texasmom on February 13, 2010, 11:39:22 AM
Hi everyone, over 30 hours with no electricity....just a little over 40 degrees in my living room right now.....the tree fell on the power line ending up about 3 feet from the house...for that I'm thankful; and so glad to be back! I've got some catching up to do! BBL
So glad to see you and glad you are OK.
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Quote from: igsigs on February 13, 2010, 11:40:55 AM
There is always a philosophy for lack of courage.
- Albert Camus
Paulus, devotee of the absurd, expected others to understand. It did not happen.
Igs,
Great to see you and all decked out in your Paulus avatar for the occasion.
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Quote from: igsigs on February 13, 2010, 11:40:55 AM
There is always a philosophy for lack of courage.
- Albert Camus
Paulus, devotee of the absurd, expected others to understand. It did not happen.
So good to see you, Igsigs!
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Quote from: Anna on February 13, 2010, 10:47:58 AM
O/T There will be a presser at 11 a.m. by UAH President on the shootings yesterday.
I posted this in the proper thread but since we have so many from Alabama because Natalee was and this is a part of the University system she would have attended, I am putting this one post here today for them in case they didn't know.
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