Natalee Case Discussion #741 3/7 - 3/10/08

[JE]

Maybe i m wrong but i think Jules D. and the location Rotterdam
refers to this guy



public figure, writer, poet, tv personality, he even looks like a tango dancer LOL
Night Mayor of Rotterdam dressses in black always
Jules Deelder

I think it's a joke

[texasmom]

Hi Everyone!

Has Jossy made any comment about the first part of the show?  If he has would someone direct me to it, please.  I've read some of the pieces of translations, I would really like to see a complete translation that is reliable.  Does one exist?  TIA

I translated most of it yesterday from the nieuwe revu transcription. There were some questions as to the accuracy of the papiementu to dutch translation i used to translate it into english. But it was said to day that the Revu translation was correct. So my translation is probably not far off. I posted it in 3 segments. Hope this helps

thanks JE!  I believe this is some of what I've read, I was looking for more since there were doubts about the translations.  I didn't know about today's comments.  I appreciate your help!

[Observer]

Kind of strange that the Van Der Sloots,Muzzelhoffers,Renho,Charles Croes,Purcells,Zeolas and others are all in this IFA club.
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Since Paul Van Der Sloot says he picked up Sebastian at the Zeolas..Maybee we should ask them if that is correct?

(Mashelle Zeola)president@ifaruba.com <president@ifaruba.com>
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Perhaps someone should write Marlene Purcell and ask her why her Husband has been such a dirt bag when it comes to a missing girl?


(Marlene Purcell) membership@ifaruba.com <membership@ifaruba.com>
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[Rob]

JE close up of the boots from March of 05

[Rob]

JE close up of the boots from March of 05

opps, forgot the original

[Bladerunner]

Kind of strange that the Van Der Sloots,Muzzelhoffers,Renho,Charles Croes,Purcells,Zeolas and others are all in this IFA club.
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Since Paul Van Der Sloot says he picked up Sebastian at the Zeolas..Maybee we should ask them if that is correct?

(Mashelle Zeola)president@ifaruba.com <president@ifaruba.com>
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Perhaps someone should write Marlene Purcell and ask her why her Husband has been such a dirt bag when it comes to a missing girl?


(Marlene Purcell) membership@ifaruba.com <membership@ifaruba.com>
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A Rick Zeola is the general manager of the Aruba Marriott according to this:

http://www.discountclub-aruba.com/index.asp?id=120

[KarmaRoundUp]

VALENTIJN AND SEBASTIAN VAN DER SLOOT

Paulus Van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005

On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.  My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005

I woke up Valentijn and Sebastian and I also said to Joran that he
had to go to school even though he wasn't in the mood to go.


Paulus Van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005

On May 30th in the hours of the morning, I did not notice anything different/out of the ordinary with Joran. According to me he got onto the bus of the I.S.A. with his brothers Sebastian and Valentijn just like he always does. I am not absolutely sure about that because I didn't notice it and because Joran didn't have to be at school every day during that period. He was busy with his final exams and sometimes he stayed home.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005

To your question whether Sebastian and Valentijn went to school that Monday, I can state the following. Yes, they got onto the bus and went to school because in the period that Anita was away they took the bus every day.


Paulus van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005

At some point during the night I was awoken by the barking of the dogs. My son Valentijn came to me and asked me what was happening. There were a lot of people at the door and there was also a police-patrol.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005

To your question how it then is possible that I had not seen Joran
get onto the bus, I can state the following. Of course I see the children get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus once or twice during that period.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 25, 2005

We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family.

Joran van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 9, 2005

When it was half time of the game my father wanted to go home to go and babysit my ten year old brother.


Anita van der Sloot
On the Record w/ Greta
June 23, 2005

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: He's very quiet. He's very shy. He doesn't like media coverage at all. And he's very much hurt by things that are happening. And as I look back — I mean, I came back from Holland Wednesday, and I was so surprised at seeing three young men — one kid, two men — involved, maybe, in the disappearance of a girl ...

In the bolded part above,Paulus is talking about monday night right?So this family was watching Sebastian 2 days?Doesn't Paulus mention this family's name twice?

[JE]

JE close up of the boots from March of 05

opps, forgot the original

MMM... wonder if he still has them

[Dayhiker]

Kind of strange that the Van Der Sloots,Muzzelhoffers,Renho,Charles Croes,Purcells,Zeolas and others are all in this IFA club.
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Since Paul Van Der Sloot says he picked up Sebastian at the Zeolas..Maybee we should ask them if that is correct?

(Mashelle Zeola)president@ifaruba.com <president@ifaruba.com>
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Perhaps someone should write Marlene Purcell and ask her why her Husband has been such a dirt bag when it comes to a missing girl?


(Marlene Purcell) membership@ifaruba.com <membership@ifaruba.com>
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Any truth to the rumor that the Purcell's are leaving the golden isle moving back to the USA they seem to despise so much?

[Anna]

Wow!  Is she going to eat all that by herself? 

[Dayhiker]

Perhaps someone should write Marlene Purcell and ask her why her Husband has been such a dirt bag when it comes to a missing girl?


(Marlene Purcell) membership@ifaruba.com <membership@ifaruba.com>
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Marlene with a turkey, how apropos.

[Tamikosmom]

http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/12/joran-back-in-aruba-joran-van-der.html#113571470922915377

Anonymous said...
Het wordt tijd dat iemand de stop uit dat achterlijke land trekt. Die tien "slimme" amerikanen vinden wel een boot en blijven leven. De rest denkt dat het erbij hoort en verzuipt met dat achterlijke land.
(aldus Jules Deelder)

3:18 PM   

[Dayhiker]

Wow!  Is she going to eat all that by herself? 

How do we know she's not going for seconds?

[dennisintn]

Who is Jules D.
The only Jules D i know of is Jules Deelder a well know public figure in Holland. Always dresses in black and has the unofficial title of Night Mayor of Rotterdam. He is a writer poet tv personality etc.
I think this is a joke

roflmfao, are you sure he's not talking about aruba steve?
dennisintn

[Dayhiker]

Thanks Janet for bringing it over.

Here Paulus has the perfect opportunity to say that Sebastian was staying at their house, but he doesn't. This is a critical error in his defense of himself. imo

Critical error? The guy is seen on video 2 hours after he said he went home with Natalee at the BJ table. He couldn't even get the name of the tournament correct as he says it was a Carribean Stud Tournament while Joran says Texas No Hold EM. Joran says he placed 3rd in that tourney and played till around 22:00 but he is also seen on video with the MB girls at 20:14. They are caught in so many lies here its ridiculous and this was before Natalee dissapeared!

Why was Paul Van Der Sloot not sleeping in his own bedroom while Anita was away? Why did Deepak mention that in his statement? Why did they not search where Paul was staying when he was arrested for suspicion of Pre-Mediated Murder and Kidnapping?

Hans Less is the the particularly ticklish predicament of prosecuting Joran without touching Paulus when in fact you can't separate the two.

[klaasend]

http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/12/joran-back-in-aruba-joran-van-der.html#113571470922915377

Anonymous said...
Het wordt tijd dat iemand de stop uit dat achterlijke land trekt. Die tien "slimme" amerikanen vinden wel een boot en blijven leven. De rest denkt dat het erbij hoort en verzuipt met dat achterlijke land.
(aldus Jules Deelder)

3:18 PM   

Anonymous said ...
It is time to stop someone from that backward country attracts. These ten "smart" amerikanen find a boat and continue to live. The rest think that it included in verzuipt with that backward country.
(Says Jules Deelder)

[Dayhiker]

Klass, guru that you are, when you get a chance will you please switch me over to my plain avitar?

[San]

JE close up of the boots from March of 05

opps, forgot the original

To me they look like sneakers that are dirty.  I'm looking at the soles they way they go in like a sneaker does.

[Anna]

Me, too, San.  Laces on the front and no heel. 

[JE]

http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/12/joran-back-in-aruba-joran-van-der.html#113571470922915377

Anonymous said...
Het wordt tijd dat iemand de stop uit dat achterlijke land trekt. Die tien "slimme" amerikanen vinden wel een boot en blijven leven. De rest denkt dat het erbij hoort en verzuipt met dat achterlijke land.
(aldus Jules Deelder)

3:18 PM   

Anonymous said ...
It is time to stop someone from that backward country attracts. These ten "smart" amerikanen find a boat and continue to live. The rest think that it included in verzuipt with that backward country.
(Says Jules Deelder)

It s about time that someone pulls the plug (plug as in the one in a sink) out of that stupid country. The 10 smart americans will find a boat and survive. The rest will think that it's the way things are supposed to happen and will drown along with that backward country