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Topic: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4 (Read 803925 times)
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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August 03, 2008, 05:19:09 PM »
Quote from: truthseeker2 on August 03, 2008, 05:12:09 PM
Shango has now made three posts directed at Simian, with no response. His fourth post is a question:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Simian, why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door ?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning….
Simian has been posting about a package from the Hague. Shango is baiting Simian because he seems to know that nothing will be revealed about evidence from the Hague. He implies that this lack of information from the 'package' Simian tells everyone will come is now hurting the locals on Aruba. I believe Shango uses Eden as a reference to the "Garden of Paradise"...One Happy Island. This whole thing has been bad for the island and Simian is not helping matters.
Simian still has not taken the bait. Shango keeps trying:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Simian, his lordship did not bring the expected key
the door never existed
Eden is distant
Shango implies that there never was to be any information to be revealed from the Hague. The return of "One Happy Island" was not about to happen.
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Babalu knew who dirty hand was
DityHand????
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DirtyHand=link between dirty hand and pimps
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Simian begins to nibble:
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pm
The cowboys have only so much gold.
The territory is rough.
There are many secrets, but the
Arawaks are helping
.
The palace is open to all, but the palace is a maze to most.
Simian now counters Sumerians with the term Arawaks and paints them in a good light. They are helping the cowboys. This is Simian at his most cryptic to date. He mentions a palace and maze. Now...does palace refer to The Hague? Is The Hague really open to all? I don't think it is even though it is the location of the "World Court" so to speak. I think palace in this post refers to the court system of Aruba. While the courts are available to all on Aruba, not everyone understands how the system works...especially foreigners. This can be a disadvantage to the foreigners seeking justice using the confusing system (maze).
Shango tugs on the line a bit:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Simian, his lordship did not bring the key for the Arawaks So it will remain “cowboys and indians” The posse was too late
Shango is telling Simian that he was either dead wrong or he has been leading people on with his claim that evidence from The Hague will answer many questions. Shango all but implies that Arawaks are the indians because Simian implies that the Arawaks are helping the cowboys. But Shango seems to think it is too late.
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Simian backs away a bit. His next post tries to separate the Babylonians from the judicial process.
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
The Babylonians don’t hold the hammer nor the block.
They are running out of options.
Simian seems to imply that the Babylonians (which I believe refers to those who seem to run things on the island...the Dutch and the political party leaders along with the casino owners) cannot control the judicial system...which we all know is not true. In fact, the Babylonians actully had all the options from the very beginning. They did influence the judges as we all saw in the following months.
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Afer this Simian takes a break from posting for about half an hour. He comes back with this post:
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:04 pm
The wire has been shaken. The bird has left.
While he was "away" Shango continued:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian, His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist
The arawaks can’t open the door Hope lies with the cowbous,
but the posse was too late Eden is still distant
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
Why don’t the Arawaks to play the Babylonian Card ?
The posse is far from the fort and the loot is gone
The indians can’t count on the cowboys
The arawaks need to audition the singing card
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:40 pm
The key does not exist
The Arawaks knew Babylonian involvement would prove futile
That is why the cowboys left the fort and a searching with the indians
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Shango is not limited to any location, orixas are his messengers
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
Elder needs to sing to preserve his lineage
To agree to remain silent is to agree not to hum any tune
The Arawaks are desperate, they fear for the tribe, they do not want war with the cowboys
But the loot remains hidden
And the Arawaks keep their singing card hidden as well
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
The Arawaks may not need to play the singing card
The cowboys won’t hear the music and the teepees will be safe
Wampum is needed as the doors closed on Eden
Did Shango shake the wire?
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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While Shango is composing this post:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun
Simian provides this defense of the system:
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
Shango responds with:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire
No one has posted as Simian during this time. We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian. But...the actual definition is
a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person
. I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.
Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm. For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours. Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Quote from: COLOMBO on August 03, 2008, 05:19:01 PM
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=
dirty hand
Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"
I understand now. Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this?
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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August 03, 2008, 08:11:46 PM »
Research on Simian/Merian/Mono/Baboon's identity. Thought there might be some that don't know this yet.
Rob
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #486 on: April 21, 2008, 03:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on April 21, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rob on April 21, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
omg - this could be me and Sandy. We were there on that date and that was our 9th trip....
Merian Ernest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: Be fair...
Spoke a to a confessed right-wing couple in Aruba. It was their ninth visit. They have no problem with the way the case has been handled and understand that as long as there is no proof you cannot hold somebody responsible.
Well, did anyone look like AG or Clyde? LOL
I saw Rufo Solongier's son the night before.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.480
The good stuff starts right after this post. I can't do a screen capture or I would bring VMS response here. You will just have to go to that link and read it for yourself. This is why I am certain about Simian. It is several pages long and actually begins on page 23.
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
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Reply #1149 on:
August 03, 2008, 08:30:37 PM »
Quote from: truthseeker2 on August 03, 2008, 06:25:38 PM
While Shango is composing this post:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun
Simian provides this defense of the system:
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
Shango responds with:
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Simian your Dopple has resumed position
Bird on the wire
No one has posted as Simian during this time. We have often thought Shango's reference to Dopple (short for doppleganger) meant someone else posting as Simian. But...the actual definition is
a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person
. I believe Shango was referring to whoever it was that was telling Simian what to say.
Simian does not post again until 9:27 pm. For over five hours Shango holds the attention of audience for the early evening hours. Could Simian be in a "strategy session" during this time?
I may not manage to effectively get my point across so bear with me here. This conversation was not exclusively between Shango and Simian, IMO. When read in total context to the other posters, I get the impression that Simian was trying to out comment or one up Shango among the FP posters. I know that is something I harp on all the time...context. But to me it's important. Let me see if I can explain this better.
During this FP posting session Shango is talking about the money and tourism business. What is going to be lost because of this mess all the while the other posters are talking about Paulus being released and who and how long they hold suspects. I get the feeling that Simian is speaking to another poster and not intended toward Shango at all.
# edie on June 26th, 2005 4:01 pm
Fox news is talking about it. They said they have to wait until 8 tonight if they will hold papa or not
# Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 4:02 pm
There really was not enough time to dump her far enough out in the ocean if the timelines all play out as being reported so far.
# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:04 pm
The wire has been shaken. The bird has left.
# Anne on June 26th, 2005 4:05 pm
So the cowboys in anger would storm the stage as soon as the song began, and the audience would be trampled unfairly? Will the music resume when the cowboy’s exit or does it depend on arrival of mutually agreeable wampum?
# Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 4:06 pm
This code is getting too weird.
# max on June 26th, 2005 4:06 pm
So now they say they will decide by 8 tonight whether or not to release paulus. This explains the ploy of giving up his right to testify against his son. I am still thinking he is guilty for sure. I dont know if I can ever shake that . It would certainly be hard to get a jury. But they dont use juries. Only one man decides the whole enchilada. I suspect they will find it hard to justify holding sr vds now. I dont like the way this is playing out. But if he is innocent then what? Hope they will find Natalee.
# kristin on June 26th, 2005 4:07 pm
i agree kristin, it’s not helpful, more like frustrating. goodbye.
# edie on June 26th, 2005 4:08 pm
I just hate to see them get off.
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# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:10 pm
The system is built so that innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
# Simian on June 26th, 2005 4:11 pm
The system is built so that the innocent are always protected. One shred of doubt is enough to thrown a case out.
# edie on June 26th, 2005 4:12 pm
I don’t believe at all that the vds duo are innocent
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I know that conversation was not exclusively between Shango and Simian. Simian was communicating with other posters and ignoring Shango. Shango, on the other hand, was communicating with Simian only at this point. He was trying to "draw him in". I find that more interesting that just coming straight out and saying to everyone that Simian was wrong about The Hague and telling everyone on the site that Simian was a fraud.. He is addressing his posts to Simian...Simian wants no part of a conversation with Shango. He communicates with others on the site...but not Shango.
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I know where you are coming from, Lala's. And I agree. Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango? He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango. My theory is that Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was. I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 03, 2008, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on August 03, 2008, 05:19:01 PM
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=
dirty hand
Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"
I understand now. Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this?
he didn't - he was speculating based on Shango's posts......and got close
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on August 03, 2008, 08:46:09 PM
I know where you are coming from, Lala's. And I agree. Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango? He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango. My theory is that Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was. I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.
I don't think Simian cared. I think he already knew who Shango was.
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Quote from: COLOMBO on August 03, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 03, 2008, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: COLOMBO on August 03, 2008, 05:19:01 PM
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders=
dirty hand
Babalu's "official corps".......DirtyHand is link, has long reach.....to "long arm"
I understand now. Now, how would Babalu, who is not in Aruba, know about this?
he didn't - he was speculating based on Shango's posts......and got close
Got "close" or actually got it "right"?
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Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I
guess
he is head of
some local official
corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself,
so Shango says
. So
maybe
he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.
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Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:06 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into Babylon on his 12:31 A.M. post
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on August 03, 2008, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on August 03, 2008, 08:46:09 PM
I know where you are coming from, Lala's. And I agree. Why would Simian blatantly ignore such direct confrontation from Shango? He was quick to respond to others who disagreed, but not Shango. My theory is that Shango was "getting it right" and Simian was trying to get someone to "ping" him to find out who he was. I'm not sure Simian could ping, but I think he was concerned about Shango.
I don't think Simian cared. I think he already knew who Shango was.
Maybe. One thing for sure...he cared later on when the two di get into a verbal sparing match.
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Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who
dirty hand
was at half past 12 (note: dirty hand)
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold
singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card (DirtyHand) sing because
hand holding it dirty too.
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is
not an Arawak
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks
Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some
local official
corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for
(see)
Natalee and he is the chief of
Polis
.
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks
often go to play ("the game") in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
DirtyHand is the link
He holds the real key
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was DirtyHand held:
he will go back to babylon (from?), broken but anonymous
he walked with the fallen elder (6/26?)
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=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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