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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 607048 times)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1240 on:
November 08, 2009, 01:13:21 PM »
Quote from: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: MyView on November 08, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
Quote from: MyView on November 08, 2009, 12:16:36 PM
Read a while back a banned one called the police on me. LOL Seriously. Cuz I banned them they reported me for I don't know what. LOL.about 8 hours ago from web
websleuths
Reading at other forums 4 fun. WOW biggest topic is hatred of Websleuths. Banned memebers full of hate.Proves we were right to ban them.about 8 hours ago from web
She really needs to stop Tweeting
She does!!
And this, snipped from one of Tricia's posts talking about gossip, really is very ironic. IMO.
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From WS:
Tricia 11-07-2009 02:25 AM
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"
Other sites gossip. Hey, in the middle of their discussion threads about murdered children they'll take the time to post and complain about me/us. Right in the middle of a serious discussion about something as tragic as a murdered child. What makes me laugh is they bit*h about us posting about true crime. Yet, just a post before they were discussing the exact same thing.
The logic makes my head hurts.
"
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Ironic, considering where Tricia/others are taking the time to post about us. (Elizabeth's thread at WS).
They don't mention the name of our forum, of course, cuz that's one of their 65,000 bannable offenses
. No, they refer to us as primates, etc.
And they are under the mistaken belief that it's only folks over here 'complaining' about them, who have been banned over there. Ermmmm nooooo, some of us are sitting there logged in with the others. Some of us are "highly respected members" over there. And some of us have been banned and have the sooper dooper sekrit decoder ring which allows for logging in despite all their sleuthing of members. Which they swear up and down they don't do, but we all know they do anyway. Heh.
And yet she outed ilovecookies' name on Twitter which started another can of worms for the guy:
websleuths
A punk kid named Ryan P. pretened to know the family of Elizabeth. Turned out he's a troll who was using Elizabeth's murder as something fun6 minutes ago from web
She later deleted it
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 01:32:55 PM »
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on November 08, 2009, 10:08:32 AM
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 02:28:42 PM »
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 05:50:56 PM
Quote from: furmonkey on November 07, 2009, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: espresso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 03:34:18 PM
Have y'all seen "disillusioned" Myspace? I think there are pics of AB there because the shirt I see in the pics is a shirt I saw somewhere else on her, maybe on CR's space.
That's the one with the black background right? I've seen it and it's definately someone who knows her. I didn't sign in to poke around it (lol-those ms pages drive me a little nuts)did you see anything interesting?
I don't think I had to log in to see the pictures. I just clicked her picture and more came up. I believe AB is in some of the pics dated 9/14/09, I think it was. I wondered if the fellah with AB in one pic is the BF.
Any hints on how to find this MS profile? I've looked but no luck so far.
XxDisillusionedxX
I think that will do it.
Is there any way to get this type of hint for CR? (I know, I'm behind). I just have not been able to figure this one out.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 03:00:54 PM »
Quote from: BrownBear on November 08, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 05:50:56 PM
Quote from: furmonkey on November 07, 2009, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: espresso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: New Monkey on November 07, 2009, 03:34:18 PM
Have y'all seen "disillusioned" Myspace? I think there are pics of AB there because the shirt I see in the pics is a shirt I saw somewhere else on her, maybe on CR's space.
That's the one with the black background right? I've seen it and it's definately someone who knows her. I didn't sign in to poke around it (lol-those ms pages drive me a little nuts)did you see anything interesting?
I don't think I had to log in to see the pictures. I just clicked her picture and more came up. I believe AB is in some of the pics dated 9/14/09, I think it was. I wondered if the fellah with AB in one pic is the BF.
Any hints on how to find this MS profile? I've looked but no luck so far.
XxDisillusionedxX
I think that will do it.
Is there any way to get this type of hint for CR? (I know, I'm behind). I just have not been able to figure this one out.
Nevermind - I found it back in the thread.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 03:00:54 PM »
Been trying to put facts vs rumors on paper, thought I would share her so we can kinda have an idea where we are, and have all facts and rumors in one spot!!!
FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS
October 21 2009 (Wednesday)
Edit: Correct Elizabeth's age. MB
9 yr old Elizabeth Olten disappears after playing at friend house, last contact was sometime after 6 pm.
Elizabeth was a 4th grader at Pioneer Trails Elem in Jefferson Cty.
Elizabeth was playing at a neighbors house, aprox 1/2 miles from her own home.
In residence of that house a gma, gpa, 6 yr old female, 2 11 yr old males, and 15 yr old female
LE called in around 7 pm.
Search begins sometime pretty quick after 7 pm .
AT&T traingulates cell phone that was in EO possesion
October 22, 2009 (Thurs)
Search continues for Elizabeth,
Wooded area and rainy weather make searching hard
Hundreds of volunteers and other help in search(dogs, helicopters etc)
Cell phone is dead, no more pings.
October 23, 2009 (Friday)
Search contiunes
At approx 3 pm. LE releases information
EO's body has been found, well concealed,
15 yr old juvenile has lead them to the body
Body well concealed
Cell located near the body
Some sort of written evidence also aided in finding EO, as well as other evidence
15 yr old juvenile is in custody
Things were are pretty certain on.
The 15 yr old juvenile is a female named A_____ B______.
Sophmore at JCHS
Half sister of Elizabeths play mate.
She is being raisied by maternal grand parents(step gdad) GLB AND KSB, due to father(CTB) being in prison and mother(MLB) criminal history and multiple arrest, form drug abuse.
Has aunt KNB who recently married RP, her long time boyfriend.
RUMORS RUMORS RUMORS RUMORS
EO sent home by gpa of AB
EO called mom and said she was on her way home
(I also read Eo said "I am coming home something happened here")
AB gpa told EO's mom "EO was sent home"
EO's mom called EO and told her to "get home"
AB called EO to come back to the house, after EO headed home
Murder is premediatated
Grave dug October 16, 2009
AB had told friends at school she "wanted to kill someone to see how it felt"
You Tube Acct list hobbies as "killing and cutting"
COD
Strangulation
(with "silk scarf")
Cutting and stabbing
Grave is behind
Elizabeths house
"Directly" behind AB house
*(in press release from Sheriff White, he stated body was found near where they began search")
Information from (someone) lead LE to AB. (written info)
A search warrant was served on the house of AB.
Reportedly a traffic warrant
Gparents cooperated with LE
Gparents were uncooperative.
*(actually it could go both ways, maybe one time they cooperated and another they did not)
Search warrant turns up some knd of journal/diary belonging to AB
Says
Should have gone to church
AB Wednesday
Called EO back to house
Took both young girls to woods, but sent half sister back
Did not help with search for Eo, wanted to "take shower"
AB thursday
Skipped school
Was at school
*(again both could be true, she skipped part of day)
Found on school grounds w/ boyfriend after itis noticed she skipped
*( we do not know WHO discovered her skipping if this is true)
LE didnt question her this night cause she was high?
AB friday
Talk to LE
FBI
Other AB RUMORS
Was a thrill kill
Just because kill
Planned to kill specifically EO maybe mths in advance
Had help
Did it alone
Very good student
homocidal and suicidal indications, hospitalized for them
turtured animals and siblings
Did it because of jealousy
possibley over cell phone
possible connection to crimes in both families
Ok this is all just FYI, please add or subtract as needed. I just thought it helped to see evertything on one page.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1245 on:
November 08, 2009, 03:17:21 PM »
Quote from: Txsflame on November 08, 2009, 03:00:54 PM
Been trying to put facts vs rumors on paper, thought I would share her so we can kinda have an idea where we are, and have all facts and rumors in one spot!!!
FACTS FACTS FACTS FACTS
October 21 2009 (Wednesday)
Edit: Correct Elizabeth's age. MB
9 yr old Elizabeth Olten disappears after playing at friend house, last contact was sometime after 6 pm.
Elizabeth was a 4th grader at Pioneer Trails Elem in Jefferson Cty.
Elizabeth was playing at a neighbors house, aprox 1/2 miles from her own home.
In residence of that house a gma, gpa, 6 yr old female, 2 11 yr old males, and 15 yr old female
LE called in around 7 pm.
Search begins sometime pretty quick after 7 pm .
AT&T traingulates cell phone that was in EO possesion
October 22, 2009 (Thurs)
Search continues for Elizabeth,
Wooded area and rainy weather make searching hard
Hundreds of volunteers and other help in search(dogs, helicopters etc)
Cell phone is dead, no more pings.
October 23, 2009 (Friday)
Search contiunes
At approx 3 pm. LE releases information
EO's body has been found, well concealed,
15 yr old juvenile has lead them to the body
Body well concealed
Cell located near the body
Some sort of written evidence also aided in finding EO, as well as other evidence
15 yr old juvenile is in custody
Things were are pretty certain on.
The 15 yr old juvenile is a female named A_____ B______.
Sophmore at JCHS
Half sister of Elizabeths play mate.
She is being raisied by maternal grand parents(step gdad) GLB AND KSB, due to father(CTB) being in prison and mother(MLB) criminal history and multiple arrest, form drug abuse.
Has aunt KNB who recently married RP, her long time boyfriend.
RUMORS RUMORS RUMORS RUMORS
EO sent home by gpa of AB
EO called mom and said she was on her way home
(I also read Eo said "I am coming home something happened here")
AB gpa told EO's mom "EO was sent home"
EO's mom called EO and told her to "get home"
AB called EO to come back to the house, after EO headed home
Murder is premediatated
Grave dug October 16, 2009
AB had told friends at school she "wanted to kill someone to see how it felt"
You Tube Acct list hobbies as "killing and cutting"
COD
Strangulation
(with "silk scarf")
Cutting and stabbing
Grave is behind
Elizabeths house
"Directly" behind AB house
*(in press release from Sheriff White, he stated body was found near where they began search")
Information from (someone) lead LE to AB. (written info)
A search warrant was served on the house of AB.
Reportedly a traffic warrant
Gparents cooperated with LE
Gparents were uncooperative.
*(actually it could go both ways, maybe one time they cooperated and another they did not)
Search warrant turns up some knd of journal/diary belonging to AB
Says
Should have gone to church
AB Wednesday
Called EO back to house
Took both young girls to woods, but sent half sister back
Did not help with search for Eo, wanted to "take shower"
AB thursday
Skipped school
Was at school
*(again both could be true, she skipped part of day)
Found on school grounds w/ boyfriend after itis noticed she skipped
*( we do not know WHO discovered her skipping if this is true)
LE didnt question her this night cause she was high?
AB friday
Talk to LE
FBI
Other AB RUMORS
Was a thrill kill
Just because kill
Planned to kill specifically EO maybe mths in advance
Had help
Did it alone
Very good student
homocidal and suicidal indications, hospitalized for them
turtured animals and siblings
Did it because of jealousy
possibley over cell phone
possible connection to crimes in both families
Ok this is all just FYI, please add or subtract as needed. I just thought it helped to see evertything on one page.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Welcome Bigmoney! I'm affraid your post got lost within the larger quote
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 04:26:55 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on November 08, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
Welcome Bigmoney! I'm affraid your post got lost within the larger quote
Yeah I dont exactly know what I am doing. I tried to say thanks to txflame.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 08, 2009, 04:38:17 PM »
Quote from: bigmoney on November 08, 2009, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 08, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
Welcome Bigmoney! I'm affraid your post got lost within the larger quote
Yeah I dont exactly know what I am doing. I tried to say thanks to txflame.
Your very welcome.. I now hope some will add to it, I ams ure I have missed some stuff..
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Txsflame, you did an awesome job, thanks!!
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Quote from: Wyks on November 08, 2009, 04:52:41 PM
Txsflame, you did an awesome job, thanks!!
Yes, thank-you
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Quote from: bigmoney on November 08, 2009, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 08, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
Welcome Bigmoney! I'm affraid your post got lost within the larger quote
Yeah I dont exactly know what I am doing. I tried to say thanks to txflame.
WELCOME
BIGMONEY!!
You are doing fine.
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TXFLAME,
you are doing a great job. I don't know how you are keeping up with this thread and over on the Ft Hood thread.
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I have seen some of the alleged perpetrator's goulish looking photos and I have some of the photos taken by this person's friends. They contrast so much! The ones that he/she takes are always kinda scary looking. Others photos depict a very attractive and nice looking, friendly person. I just dont wanna believe that this tragedy is real. Have any of you folks seen some of the "ordinary" snapshots? This person on the outside looks so ordinary it is hard to believe.
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 06:39:29 PM
TXFLAME,
you are doing a great job. I don't know how you are keeping up with this thread and over on the Ft Hood thread.
Actually that is exactly how I did, while watching news of Ft Hood on Wednesday, I was writing my list on paper.. BUT
HEART
is the one who did most of the work on Ft Hood, cause my computer was acting stupid(think it was FB games scewing it up)
HEART
did about 95% of the work on Ft Hood!!!!
OT BTW anyone who hasnt checked it out.. check out the FT HOOD thread, Heart has done a wonderful job of getting out the names and info on deceased and wounded!!
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Hi bigmoney, and welcome!
Not to worry about mistakes in posting. Some of us still do that!
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I am very worried about
NORTHERN ROSE.
She is here everyday, but she has had sickness at her house. I am praying for her.
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Am I rembering wrong? I thought that Elizabeth was only 9 years old.
I edited it to reflect her age as 9. MB
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Quote from: SuzieQ on November 08, 2009, 08:51:32 PM
Am I rembering wrong? I thought that Elizabeth was only 9 years old.
You're correct. Elizabeth was 9 but her murderer is 15.
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 08, 2009, 08:25:34 PM
I am very worried about
NORTHERN ROSE.
She is here everyday, but she has had sickness at her house. I am praying for her.
Oh dear!
Am hoping and praying that things are fine and she's just resting up a bit.
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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